Chairman of Goddards Enterprises Asserts His Innocence

[Barbados Underground]  Yes Jeff, Charles Herbert faces a monumental task, not least because he has already been convicted in the court of public opinion. The social meaning of the case has become about the history of race relations in Barbados, so although the court case is supposed to consider the evidence dispassionately, I am not certain that a jury will lack bias

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  • @John A

    Blurred in the sense people support positions by defaulting to race talk. Especially people living outside Barbados.

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  • @ David.

    Ah ok got you now . Yes that for sure is the approach. Plus I think some of the older people having been victims of racism maybe in the 60s when it was all about colour here are prone to make the old link. The move from colour to social and economic prejudice was gradual and stealth in nature.

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  • @ David

    thanks for that . i have read the executive summary so far and what stands out is this.

    that 3.3mil imay have been issued via a cheque on Jan 16th 2009 that was deposited to Thompson and Associates and First Caribbean on the same day Jan 16 2009.

    the 3.3mil was related to an agreement between CHBL and Clico International Financial Limited on one hand and PFS a Parris associated company regarding a gratuity payment and not for fees and expenses as purported on the invoice

    the cheque for the 3.3mil was created on Dec 30th 2008 when Thompson was PM. However it was revealed that Thompson had relinquished ownership of Thompson and Associates on May 22 2008.

    in any case it seems like the invoice had not been prepared by Thompson and Associates and may have been prepared by PFS, a Parris associated company

    prior to this Thompson and Associates (when Thompson headed the company) were the lawyers for Clico, Parris and Associated companies. it seems like lost of monies passed through that firm related to those companies which the audit commented upon wrt to the two agreements mentioned above and other cheques for Parris routed thru an account of Thompson and Associates as the 3.3mil cheque. the audit did not report anything untoward wrt to the agreements or the other cheques

    so unless someone can show me the connection of this 3.3mil to Thompson himself i will pause there to read the rest later

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  • @ David

    thanks for that . i have read the executive summary so far and what stands out is this.

    that 3.3mil may have been issued via a cheque on Jan 16th 2009 that was deposited to Thompson and Associates and First Caribbean on the same day Jan 16 2009.

    the 3.3mil was related to two agreements (2002 and 2005) between CHBL and Clico International Financial Limited on one hand and PFS a Parris associated company regarding a gratuity payment and not for fees and expenses as purported on the invoice

    the cheque was created on Dec 30th 2008 when Thompson was PM. However it was revealed that Thompson had relinquished ownership of Thompson and Associates on May 22 2008.

    in any case it seems as though the invoice had not been prepared by Thompson and Associates and may have been prepared by PFS.

    prior to this Thompson and Associates (when Thompson headed the company) were the lawyers for Clico, Parris and Associated companies. it seems like most of monies passed through that firm related to those companies which the audit commented upon wrt the two agreements mentioned above and other cheques for Parris routed thru the same account of Thompson and Associates as the 3.3mil cheque. the audit did not report anything untoward wrt the agreements or the other cheques / monies

    so unless someone can show me the connection of this 3.3mil to Thompson himself i will pause there to read the rest later

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  • @ John A

    You must be careful that stupidity does not pass as analysis. In the US, we had a black chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, two black secretaries of state,, and a black president. And we were told of the post-Obama world, then we got Trump; we were told of the advance of multi-culturalism in the UK, then we got Brexit and Windrush; we were told that France had the most diverse population in Europe, then we got Marie Le Pen and the bombers.
    Communities do not abdicate their power on the altar of do-goodism, out of the kindness of their hearts. Of course there has been progress and race, class and other social differentiating factors have become more sophisticated, but wealth and qualifications do not make a black person non-black.
    Talk to black university lecturers in the UK; ask why is it that black Americans are about 14 per cent of the population, but only 8 per cent of economics PhDs, far below other disciplines; look at the number of black people employed in Silicon Valley; have a look at Australia’s immigration polices.
    Wealth, qualifications and political power are not ethnic bleaches, they do not change the minds of racists. There is a world beyond the little 14×21 of Barbados. Stop thinking what happens in Barbados is representative of what happens in the wider world.
    I have said on BU on a number of occasions that traditional Barbadians, black and white, must reach a settlement for the sake of the nation, if not it will be taken from us by the New Barbadians. We do not have to be best friends – sometimes we have relatives and neighbours we would not like to be best friends with – but we must cooperate.

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  • “Political correctness or not: The whites supply the torches, the easily inflammable oil and the weapons, with which the coloureds massacre each other in the south. The blacks may be the direct perpetrators in their countries, but the whites are the indirect perpetrators and at the same time instigators and helpers.”

    So glad to see enlightenment PEEPING THROUGH…

    now apply the same template to Barbados…and what do ya get, the “instigators and helpers” are the BLACK TRAITORS IN PARLIAMENT AND BAR ASSOCIATION….the whites, indians and syrians are merely a bunch of parasitic minorities who have been sucking the blood of the majority for decades….time to starve all these criminals of BLOOD.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @John A, I would disagree a bit re your “but this time they are based solely on social and economic prejudice as opposed to skin colour as was the case in the 50’s and 60’s say.”.

    I think solely is too strong a description…misleading really.

    Skin colour is still relevant and informs behaviours significantly enough that it still affects how people do things.

    Years ago I was in The Bahamas and a business colleague over dinner pressed me on how often I visited or was invited to the home of my white business colleagues …. I thought nothing of it then because such invitations were as much about how I opted to socialize mostly but over time I recognized that her point was indeed instructive of a certain behaviour.

    Of course Black and White mingle at Westmoreland, the type soirees u noted and too at each other’s home and there are interracial marriages a plenty these days also…YET there still seems a noticeable divide !

    @Greene, I am confounded… You cite the report which notes that the cheque transaction was NOT done by the Thompson law office; you cite that DT was then PM and no longer a private attorney; you cite that his supervisor of insurance had set serious sanctions against CLICO ….and despite all that a cheque was issued by his instructions (according to the JM) … Yet u ask HOW Mr Thompson was entangled or responsible for this matter! REALLY!

    Look I liked DT, know MANY people who knew the man well and swear by him… and some who do NOT, I too interacted with the man so I do not condemn him willy nilly but there is nothing about this cheque affair that passes ANY smell test.

    It is as insidious a conflict of interest as I have ever seen…and that’s putting it in its most fancy terms possible!

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  • @ DPD

    quote——-and despite all that a cheque was issued by his instructions (according to the JM) …——–quote

    show me where i wrote that or where that is in the report and i will rethink what i wrote. i am commenting on the report itself not whether i knew or liked the man himself.

    you can quote me if you like but when you paraphrase it goes out of whack

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  • Include in the observation Mara Thompson was Office Manager. When did her service end with the law firm?

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  • WURA

    ……..I don’t believe we’re on the same page. Perhaps you are “over-sensationalizing” this issue.

    Why would Vernese Brathwaite be “effectively GAGGED” and “prevented from even discussing” the circumstances under which Parris and Thornhill were changed………….. unless the case remains under judicial consideration and therefore prohibited from public discussion?

    David BU

    On March 17, 2011, Solicitor General Jennifer Edwards appeared in the High Court before Justice Jacqueline Cornelius requesting the court’s leave to present a petition for the appointment of a judicial manager for CLICO International Life Insurance. The matter was adjourned until May 2, 2011.

    On February 22, 2012 Leroy Parris and Terrence Thornhill were charged under Section 185 of the Insurance Act, Cap,130, after being accused of contravening an order by the Supervisor of Insurance in 2009 which forbid the company’s subsidiary CLICO International Life Insurance from soliciting new business, (which was revealed as a result of a forensic audit into the operations of CIL.

    David BU, do you remember what happened after the charges were laid? It was reported Thornhill was served with his summons to appear in Court, but Court Marshalls spent two days looking for Parris to serve him with a summons as well.

    I’ll remind you what occurred in March 2012:

    “Commissioner of Police Darwin Dottin has been ordered to stop the criminal matter brought against the president of CLICO International Life, Terrence Thornhill, at least for now.”

    “In a temporary stay granted yesterday by High Court Justice Kaye Goodridge, the Commissioner of Police was ordered to put a hold on criminal charges brought against Thornhill.”

    “The matter effectively also puts a hold on similar criminal charges the police brought against former CLICO executive chairman Leroy Parris, his lawyer Michael Yearwood pointed out.”

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  • @Artax

    Thanks, the blogmaster rest.

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  • @ Hal

    Let us agree we will never reach the state of total utopia. We have come a long way and I feel we will continue to progress. Will we ever reach the perfect world where all are seen as one, probably not in our lifetime.

    If you have a friend or know a Indian born and raised in India, ask him to discuss with you the ” shades ” prejudice that exist there and how How it affects social standing. How Indians from the North view those from the South. Even though all are the same race they still look for a source of separating some from others.

    So it seems even among the same ethnic race racism can still occur.

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  • @David

    so what is your conclusion

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  • @WURUthe 08:50am “whites, indians and syrians are merely a bunch of parasitic minorities who have been sucking the blood of the majority for decades….time to starve all these criminals of BLOOD.”

    Can anyone on BU imagine a white, Indian or Syrian person writing the above? Pathetic, to say the least! And to think he walks amongst us. How racist can you get? How hate filled you are. What an unhappy human being (?) you must be.

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  • @Greene

    The Clico mess made many people rich and policyholders poor. Will leave it there for now:

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  • Class vs Race!!

    How is it that King Dyal, a black man, could look at his antagonists, also “black men” and call them “black cattle” and worse?

    http://www.afrikanheritage.com/condemned-the-barbados-souvenir-calendar-1966-2016-an-insult-to-black-barbadians/

    How is it that I could always and still can meet “black” women who grew up in the 60’s and 70’s and prior and automatically know they went to QC?

    Class always was the defining trait of Bajans.

    Not that colour was irrelevant, just that it was not so big a deal.

    Respecting age was a trait all Barbadians had, irrespective of colour.

    As a child I knew I could never disrespect any older person without suffering dire consequences … didn’t matter if that older person was a labourer or a plantation owner.

    But if you happened to be in town and present when King Dyal passed through you would have immediately seen the difference between class … and no class in the treatment of an older man by younger men, all of them black!!

    Funny thing, I never saw a white tormentor.

    Perhaps King Dyal is an extreme case, an exception perhaps, but worth thinking about as we watch our country disintegrate.

    https://www.dictionary.com/browse/disintegrate

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  • @ Greene,,

    If there s evidence of criminality by Mr Parris, it is the duty of law abiding people to pass that information on to the police; the police or other investigating authority will examine that evidence and pass their file on to the DPP’s office; they will then take out a writ against Mr Parris. If the case fails to be listed, then the problem is in the registry.
    The judicial management review did not find that an alleged crime had been committed by Mr Parris nor, as far as I can remember, was the report sent to the prosecution authorities.
    We must blame the source of the problem.

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  • @ John,

    You are introducing a binary definition. Race, colour, class and ‘poor greats’ have always been a problem in Barbados. It all comes from the role race has played in society.
    Among black people it is colourism: lighter shades of black. When I was a boy, parents, in particular fathers, with skills considered themselves socially above the unskilled.
    I know a prominent black woman in the UK, from a prominent Caribbean family; she has been living in the UK for over 60 years and still finds it difficult to understand race. It pains her that white people can call her a n—-, since, in her mind, she is a middle class, university educated, professional woman. It puts a smile on my face. Race removes all notions of colourism and class among black people.
    @John, in the UK it is against the law to discriminate on the grounds of race, but it continues.

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  • @David

    agree with that.

    i just simply cant agree with the contention that has been bandied about on this site that Thompson was a crook regarding Clico. i dont see it if the audit report is being used as a source document. .

    regarding instructions coming from Thompson himself the report does not say that. it says that an email shows that instructions to Thornhill came from Thompson’s known email address with no explanatory note as to the reason for the cutting of the cheque or associated charges.

    that begs the question- why was it acted upon when Thornhill would have known that David Thompson no longer acted for the company and the invoice itself was incomplete. that reinforces my belief that it is highly unlikely that email invoice came from David Thompson himself. in that regard you posted something that may be closer to who may have wrote that email.

    that notwithstanding i will close with one thing

    the source of that 3.3mil has not been reported as criminal money. where there is an issue it seems to be the timing of the cheque and the invoice for issuance of said cheque- when the Clico problem (insolvency) had become apparent and the reason for issuance (fees and expenses as oppose to gratuity to Parris when it was likely that Clico clients would be shafted)

    it ought to be noted that Parris was owed the money according to the report but i have not read (from the executive summary) when the gratuity would have come due. even if Parris and Thompson and Associates conspired to hide the reason for the cheque – what would have been the crime if there was no criminality involving the source of the money and it was due to Parris anyway?

    anyhow i am glad i read that document and am satisfied that on the face of it Thompson himself was not involved in any criminality as far as i can see from that report .

    that Thornhill and Parris were charged for what appears to be a regulatory matter falls into Hal’s contention that Clico Barbados was a regulatory failure and not a criminal one

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  • @Greene

    Because all agree there was a regulatory failure it does not excuse Parris and other senior officers in the company from questionable practices. We agree the matter must be investigated. We need to know why deputy Supervisor Brathwaite has been banished without explanation. She is being paid with tax money.

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  • @ FearPlay, If I agree with you that WARU is a racist, can you agree with me that she’s telling the truth? It’s so amazing how you and others like you are so quick to label blacks as racist and pathetic for daring to speak the truth.

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  • But excuse me i belive the topic (here) for discussion was the DPP giving Charles Herbert a get out of jail free pass without allowing jurisprudence to take its course
    In my humble opinion Charles Herbert decision smacks of bold faced corruption
    A problem which this govt promised to correct

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  • Speaking of Charles Leacock and present DPP, wasn’t it the same Leacock who for the first time went to Holetown’s magistrate court to personally oversee a case against that other white bajan who lick a shot in his son’s head? Look at the outcome of that case, ok now, look at this Herbert’s case. So you nappy head fools can continue boasting of where you went to school while you’re being shafted by your own. One angry belligerent black woman gave a man 12 months for a $6 offence. I do believe she was the daughter of the president for life, a Simple Simon.

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  • “It’s so amazing how you and others like you are so quick to label blacks as racist and pathetic for daring to speak the truth.”

    those are the slave minded them, they are many in numbers, brains need a purge from the wash…it will take another 3 generations to get rid of that cancerous blight.

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  • “Perhaps King Dyal is an extreme case, an exception perhaps, but worth thinking about as we watch our country disintegrate.”

    all yall lowlifes paid a role in its integration in the last 70+ years…whether it was the blight of racism or the scourge of classicism…all yall had ya nasty destructive hands in the pot….

    ….we all know most black people can be dumb as ass and still looking for acceptance…as they were mis-educated to …. in a system designed to destroy them…instead of creating their own…as our ancestors had to do to survive the brutality from demons…

    and of course all the greedy lowlifes are finally going to destroy themselves because of their own decades of destructive actions against the majority population..

    Karma and Retribution walking hand in hand and am loving it.

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  • “What an unhappy human being (?) you must be.”

    happy as shite, so go suck on THAT, ha, ha, ha…

    wuh i aint got no DRUG CARTEL…running through the Caribbean, through South America…and straight into the Middle East….so what the hell do i got to worry about…

    but yall on the other hand…

    ah mean…ya wanted THE TRUTH ….RIGHT????

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    Mr Greene, my personal remarks re DT were made to highlight that my comments are not based on any personal angst against the man…no more no less.

    I too read that report and respond to the facts differently to you…let’s leave that there because this matter was litigated extensively on these pages and back then I gave my 2 cents and more… so really no need or desire to relitigate this now.

    I would simply ask you to justify how a man who was the lawyer for a private company and who then becomes in charge of all that comp’s regulations sits back and allows the removal of the regulator who seeks to sanction the said company and we all can look at the entire series of events (cheque included) and see not a itsy-bitsy problem !

    If you can read the report, examine all the circumstances and opine as you do then fantastic.

    Ur reasoning has a similar flair to that of supporters the WH Don…so no problem bro… all good !

    YOU wrote:

    “the source of that 3.3mil has not been reported as criminal money. where there is an issue it seems to be the timing of the cheque and the invoice for issuance of said cheque- when the Clico problem (insolvency) had become apparent and the reason for issuance (fees and expenses as oppose to gratuity to Parris when it was likely that Clico clients would be shafted)”

    Let’s repeat something that’s indicted as FRAUD in some courts: “reason for issuance (fees and expenses as oppose to gratuity to Parris…)!

    I dun bro. I gone.

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  • @DPD,

    changing the reasons on an invoice for the issuance of that cheque is highly suspicious and attention grabbing but consider this- was Parris entitled to the money? was the source of the money criminal? why was the reason disguised as fees and expenses and not gratuity?

    the answers –
    yes if it was for gratuity as it seems to have been
    not that i can see
    Clico’s money problems (insolvency) was hitting the news and any money the company had should have been retained for liquidation. Parris and or his company or others i suspect were trying to bypass this and seemingly did.

    was that a criminal act? i doubt it but i would be glad to amend that statement if you can show me any law in Bim that hints that is a criminal fraud. a regulatory matter yes – no problem there what so ever.

    check out the Philip Green case in the UK to do with BHS. Hal can tell you a lot about that.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-36139828

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  • I cannot beleive what i am reading.These Dems like Greene and Hal Austin flip flopping all over the place trying to seperate Mr Thompson from a questionable transaction with clico.Tell me how many year Mr Thompson was clico,s lawyer?Then have become PM and in my view a piss poor one did his wife not remain office manager and took 10 million of tax payers money to pump into clico?Mr Thompson in my view still had ties with clico anmd cannot be seperated from clico.Mr Thompson only wish to become PM but did not have any plan or clue how to run a country.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @WURA-War-on-U June 28, 2019 2:27 AM “President Jair Bolsonaro of Brazil has vowed to pursue drug traffickers relentlessly. So he was hard-pressed to explain how a presidential plane ended up carrying 86 pounds of cocaine across the Atlantic during an official trip.”

    I don’t know much about drug running…or in this case drug flying.

    What if the cocaine was a stowaway? Or what if the cocaine thought that it had diplomatic immunity?

    Lolll!!!

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @John “You have to admit black bajan women have changed! ”

    I have to admit no such thing.A ten year old photograph of an an idiotic woman, and an improperly supervised child does not mean that Bajan women have changed.

    One swallow does not a summer make.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @Artax at 9:47 a.m. “The matter effectively also puts a hold on similar criminal charges the police brought against former CLICO executive chairman Leroy Parris, his lawyer Michael Yearwood pointed out.”

    Michael Yearwood is a know D?

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @Artax at 9:47 a.m. “Court Marshalls spent two days looking for Parris to serve him with a summons as well…“In a temporary stay granted yesterday by High Court Justice Kaye Goodridge, the Commissioner of Police was ordered to put a hold on criminal charges brought against Thornhill.”

    I don’t understand. How could Court marshalls not find Leroy. After all Barbados is not such a big place, and Leroy unlike say Winston Hall was not young and lithe, and unlike Hall he was not an award winning hiker and experienced outdoorsman.

    And did the High Court Justice explain why she ordered the Commissioner of Police to “put a hold” And can somebody with legal training explain whether a judge has the authority to issue orders to the Commissioner of Police? And if so is the Commissioner bound to obey?

    There is so much that I do not understand.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @David June 28, 2019 10:11 AM “The Clico mess made many people rich and policyholders poor.”

    But that is the problem David.

    It did not make the policy holders poor, since the policy holders are being reimbused by taxpayers like me.

    I had no part in creating the Clico mess, and I resent that my tax money is being used to fix it.

    I did not vote for the BLP so that they can take my money and give it to Clico’s foolish customers.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @Greene June 28, 2019 10:48 AM “regarding instructions coming from Thompson himself the report does not say that. it says that an email shows that instructions to Thornhill came from Thompson’s known email address.”

    So did some person or persons unknown have access t Thompson’s know email address?

    Did a man who was an experience lawyer, and our Prime Minister so careless with his email passwords etc.?

    If so was Mr. Thompson naive?

    Or am I naive?

    Or are you?

    In some work places leaving your computer open so that somebody else can send an email in your name is a firing offence.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @whiteHill June 28, 2019 11:13 AM “One angry belligerent black woman gave a man 12 months for a $6 offence. I do believe she was the daughter of the president for life, a Simple Simon.”

    Nope.

    I know her not.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @Lorenzo June 28, 2019 7:09 PM. “Mr Thompson only wish to become PM but did not have any plan or clue how to run a country.”

    I’ve never voted for the DLP while David Thompson was party leader. Then and now I could not see why people thought that he would be good for the DLP and for Barbados.

    I didn’t get it then.

    I don’t get it now.

    And “yes” I had voted for the DLP plenty, plenty times before David was leader.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @Hants June 28, 2019 8:05 PM “Real Bajan.”

    You will need to warn your school buddy John not to go on the road on Kadooment Day, or he may get another heart attack.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @Greene, I will not attempt to impersonate a lawyer and attempt to quote chapter or verse re local criminal statutes or common law BUT in any and all jurisdictions which practice under common and statuary law as in UK or Bim it is clear that FRAUD is a crime…and as far as I know…preparing a FALSE invoice to deliberately misrepresent material facts is FRAUD.

    And surely YOU know that!

    Pls let deal in reality!

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife
    June 28, 2019 9:08 PM

    @Hants June 28, 2019 8:05 PM “Real Bajan.”
    You will need to warn your school buddy John not to go on the road on Kadooment Day, or he may get another heart attack.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Never been, hopefully you won’t be going either looking for young guys to “nurture”!!

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  • Most bank holidays I work ….. some I sits and thinks …. and …. others I just sits!!

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  • And DBLP corruption and SINS AGAINST THEIR OWN BLACK PEOPLE…keeps following them..

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  • DPD,

    quote——preparing a FALSE invoice to deliberately misrepresent material facts is FRAUD—–quote

    all i will say is that you have the right church but the wrong pew. so lets agree to disagree

    the bottom line is that two people- Thornhill and Parris- were charged and for a regulatory offence

    and rightfully so on the face of it

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  • Sometimes my mind give up on following the repetitive statement but your last statement caught my attention…
    Simplify the story for me….
    Is this a a version of the ChalesHerbert affair with DT cast as Charles Herbert and Thornhill and Parris as two crew members? Y/N

    Let me use “asking fora friend”

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  • Is this a a version of the ChalesHerbert affair with DT cast as Charles Herbert and Thornhill and Parris as two crew members? Y/N

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    After 2 years and $25 million USD plus … no collusion, … no obstruction of justice … waste of taxpayers time and money.

    Closest you could get to a parallel is the local DPP and Robert Mueller!!

    … assuming you are looking for parallels with Donald Trump’s (DT’s) experience!!

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  • John
    June 29, 2019 12:52 AM

    Most bank holidays I work ….. some I sits and thinks …. and …. others I just sits!!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Thanks for the reminder to check upcoming Bank Holidays.

    Emancipation Day is a Thursday and Kadooment Day is the following Monday.

    Bajans will make Friday one too!!

    Nice long weekend to get some work done with no pressure … God spare life!!

    Did you know I had a Quaker ancestor who got put in stocks for working on Christmas Day 1676?

    In those days a holiday used to be known as a “Holy Day”!!

    He was a stone mason and used the day to build a stone wall in a Burying Ground .. if you want to see it go up to the Quaker Burying Ground by St. Philip’s Church!!

    That’s where I think the incident took place.

    In 1676, the powers that be frowned on anyone “disrespecting” a “Holy Day”.

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  • Theo

    hahahaha. not a bad analogy except one is a criminal matter and the other appears to be a regulatory one

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  • John

    hahahaha.

    Mueller is an investigative attorney after my own heart. i just love this quote-

    “if we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so”

    it was beautifully phrased

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  • @ John,

    With the exception of Boxing Day and New Year’s day, all UK bank holidays are on Mondays – makes for a long weekend.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @Greene, you started with a chuckle so I presume you are joking with “…not a bad analogy except one is a criminal matter and the other appears to be a regulatory one”.

    In your world breaking regulations is a regulatory offense but not a criminal offense… Amazing world you inhabit!

    Can you please clarify why the regulator would forward a file to the police dept for action other than to bring a possible criminal case?

    If you had the regulatory code book handy I would ask you to distinguish (in this CLICO matter) where the sanctions permissible were administrative only and not punishable under criminal law…but that’s a query for our law Dean surely.

    …but we all should be aware that law authorities have recourse to indict most business transgressions under CRIMINAL law because invariably the person’s misdeeds go well beyond any administrative wrongdoing which may mandate only fines and things like suspension from further corporate givernance etc …BECAUSE said person has also generally broken any of various criminal statues….starting with fraud.

    This case seemed to follow that script…

    Similarly like the Enron execs matter or more recently the Wells Fargo affair.. Both instances were regulatory codes of accounting and banking were breached but also where criminal statues were broken.

    Thus, I don’t follow your reasoning atall!

    I gone.

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  • @Hal Austin: With the exception of Boxing Day and New Year’s day, all UK bank holidays are on Mondays – makes for a long weekend.

    Wow! Good Friday celebrated in Monday – only the British.

    Anyway Hal, Tom Adams tried regulating bank holidays similarly and the backlash from the union that was closely aligned with Errol Barrow as he was at the time, was too much to bear and it reverted to the hodge podge that it now is.

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  • @ Fearplay

    I did not mention other holy days such as Xmas or Easter.

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  • Pacha…check this out.

    Our point has been AGAIN PROVEN…ya got a shite education system in the Caribbean, racist and ugly, designed by slave masters….and ya still think ya arrive when ya got a shite degree…when all the knowledge YA NEED…is LOCKED AWAY in that mentally enslaved mind… through centuries of brainwash.. …..get rid of the shite education system…use the knowledge ya were gifted with…from birth..

    We know why the leaders are dumb, but the population can make their own changes, access their own knowledge ..it is just waiting to be tapped into..

    “News > Education > Education News
    NUS president attacks education system as ‘institutionally racist’ as she steps down
    Exclusive: Universities must increase number of black academics and black texts, says Shakira Martin

    Eleanor Busby Education Correspondent
    2 days ago

    Shakira Martin, the president of the National Union of Students, say more needs to be done to tackle racism ( NUS )
    The president of the National Union of Students has attacked the education system for being “institutionally racist” as she steps down from the role.

    Universities must do more to ensure black women and working-class women reach positions of power and feel comfortable in them, Shakira Martin, the National Union of Students (NUS) president, said.

    Speaking to The Independent, Ms Martin urged institutions to introduce more texts by black writers and to recruit more black lecturers as a way increasing diversity.News > Education > Education News
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  • Hal Austin
    June 29, 2019 10:34 AM

    @ Fearplay
    I did not mention other holy days such as Xmas or Easter.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    Lovely shot!!

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  • Not a man moved!!

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  • … or woman!!

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  • “if we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so”
    it was beautifully phrased

    ++++++++++++++++++

    Translated into simpler English, no collusion, no obstruction!!

    Mueller gets to appear on 17th July!!!

    Suspect it will backfire!!

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  • @ Greene June 29, 2019 8:41 AM
    “DPD,
    quote——preparing a FALSE invoice to deliberately misrepresent material facts is FRAUD—–quote
    all i will say is that you have the right church but the wrong pew. so lets agree to disagree
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Greenie, don’t you think all these ‘allegations’ of fraud and criminal deception could have been avoided if the ‘certified’ CFO Thornhill had simply written the cheque(s) payable to Leroy Parris, Esq; or even to “PIS” instead of Thompson Associates?

    After all, according to your line of reasoning, it was a ‘genuine’ payment in the form of a gratuity due to Greenverbs and not legal fees as invoiced to facilitate the extraction of money from CLICO in its most challenging hour of financial need.

    CLICO was on the verge of financial collapse. How can a board of management (charged to protect the interests of all stakeholders) approve a gratuity payment to a senior employee and allow it to take priority over the company’s statutory obligations like NIS, PAYE deductions and its contracted insurance liabilities?

    Why don’t you read the Companies Act and acquaint yourself with the statutory obligations of directors?

    Why don’t you consult the Anti-Money Laundering piece of legislation and figure out if the billing of legal services presumed to have been provided by Maurice King QC should not be considered as fraudulent in its purest juristic form?

    Barbados is a ‘failed state” deliberately caused by the ‘decisive’ acts of corrupt black politicians including OSA, Thompson and Fumble Stuart; all bullshit graduates of the UWI.

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  • @Kim

    You could have added that the invoice was falsely labelled to hide the nature of the payment i.e. some payment to Maurice King who denied he rendered services to merit the billing.

    On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 1:18 AM Barbados Underground wrote:

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  • Piece the Legend

    A Wise Third Party Movement ONLY needs to selectively choose which of these infractions they promise the public they will prosecute when they get into the House of Assembly.

    Once the broadcast those actions, among others, dem gone clear.

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  • “You could have added that the invoice was falsely labelled to hide the nature of the payment i.e. some payment to Maurice King who denied he rendered services to merit the billing.”

    David BU

    This is a silly discussion, especially when you take the facts into consideration. Therefore, let us not concentrate on if Leroy Parris is guilty or not guilty of committing an offence……… let’s examine at the facts.

    The fact is, and according to correspondence from CIL, Parris was due a $10M gratuity.

    CIL made a payment of $3.333M to the law firm Thompson & Associates, based on an invoice that described the rendering of services relating to “four different legal matters in detail and the “fees” or “retainers” for each.”

    It was subsequently discovered that the $3.333M payment was actually to the benefit of Mr. Leroy Parris and related to partial payment of a “gratuity.”

    In other words, CIL owed Parris gratuity, which, probably at the time, could not have been paid under normal circumstances for one reason or the other. Hence, an invoice was prepared, using the company’s law firm to facilitate this payment, under the guise of rendering legal services, perhaps to circumvent the circumstances under which the $3.333M would have been normally paid (e.g. payroll system).

    Why would Parris have to engage in the falsification of an invoice to receive money he is entitled to? Was it a case where CIL was at the time undergoing financial difficulties and was only paying certain service providers and Parris saw the falsified invoice as an opportunity to get some of his money before the company went “belly up?”

    Whatever the reason, what Parris did was wrong.

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  • David BU

    Do you recall an incident involving in December 2010, Michael Cook, who was employed as CLICO’s messenger/driver?

    Apparently being upset after “Mr. Parris tell me that my years I got in at CLICO don’t count and that I got to start over,” he decided to take matters in his own hands by stealing $1.3M in cash and cheques he was supposed to deposit to the company’s bank account.

    Cook burnt the cheques and kept the cash to refurbish his house, purchase accessories for his car and give his two “lady friends” houses.

    Under the circumstances where Cook feared he would lose 15 years gratuity that was rightfully his, he decided to steal from CLICO.

    Are those individuals who are arguing Parris was correct, willing to extend similar sympathy to Cook?

    The only difference between Parris’ and Cook’s situation was that CLICO handed Cook’s matter over to the police.

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  • @Artax

    Clico/Parris is often coloured by emotion. The facts are clear however.

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  • Isn’t the facts clear that Mark Maloney was a big time crook when the DLP was in power?

    Now the the BLP is in the same Mark Maloney is clean as driven snow.

    There are so many crooks in Barbados that they become convenient to each others and forgiven once everyone back is scratch.

    Barbados is equally as corrupt as TT and GT.

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  • @ Artax June 30, 2019 10:39 AM
    “Why would Parris have to engage in the falsification of an invoice to receive money he is entitled to? Was it a case where CIL was at the time undergoing financial difficulties and was only paying certain service providers and Parris saw the falsified invoice as an opportunity to get some of his money before the company went “belly up?”
    Whatever the reason, what Parris did was wrong.”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    And downright illegal in any law abiding jurisdiction!

    Such a ‘wrong’ was not only a blatant act of fraud and criminal deception but also in breach of the Income tax Act, the Companies Act and the Anti-Money Laundering Act.

    But who cares in the Banana republic of Bim where the enforcement of laws applies only to cases involving petty thefts like that of a can of corn beef or a nail clipper set made in China.

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  • Disgraceful…they are now all seen worldwide as CRIMINALS…nothing can change or upstage that label, except for the human trafficking label they worked so hard recently to MAKE SURE THEY GOT from signing agreements with slave traders.

    They gone quiet now, but wait.

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  • The reasons given for withdrawing the case against Charles Herbert by the DPP was lack of evidence and not in the ‘public interest’. But what is the concept of public interest?
    Are we going to debate this philosophical idea on BU? Where are are our legal theorists? Our political scientists? Our journalists? Our keyboard warriors?

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  • Hal in simple terms, the money wasted trying to prosecute with no chance of a conviction that is what is not in the public interest. Now think about that for a second….from what most post on this blog they would fry Herbert given the chance, so there must be no evidence at all that anyone would convict on or the prosecution would have moved forward as it has for the other two.

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  • There was $500K of evidence or was that imaginary?

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  • NorthernObserver

    My hope is the remaining two get their day in court. And the specifics of this case are made public. There have been so many assumptions, beliefs and plain ignorance. Drug smugglers are not in the business of getting caught, yet we have had several recent busts where the authorities were acting on “tips”. From afar it smells like rival warfare. Whether these two are found guilty or innocent, is this an isolated incident or are there links to other seizures.

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  • “My hope is the remaining two get their day in court. And the specifics of this case are made public. There have been so many assumptions, beliefs and plain ignorance.”

    NorthernObserver

    I agree with your above comments.

    But, let’s be FAIR and look at this issue from a different perspective, despite we may be ACCUSED of supporting the white man…. and any means necessary to prevent him from “getting locked up.”

    Did Charles Herbert represented himself in Court?

    NO!!!………. Queen’s Counsel Andrew Pilgrim was his lawyer.

    So, are we suggesting Pilgrim is not a “good enough” lawyer to argue Herbert’s case by presenting the facts in such a manner, to prove the prosecution did not have enough evidence to convict his client…….. causing the DPP to drop the charges?

    Or are we suggesting the DPP and Pilgrim were in “cahoots”……….and (as some seem to be suggesting)……. together with intervention from the government, to pressure the Court into “freeing” Herbert because he is a “white-man”…… at the expense of the other two accused?

    How do we know whether or not Pilgrim will get the charges dropped against Christopher Rogers……….and likewise Verla DePeiza as the legal counsel for Walter Prescod?

    Let’s say “for argument’s sake” Prescod was convicted.

    Seeing the direction in which the arguments seem to be heading, will Enuff’s “pick-a-noise crew,” FOR EXAMPLE, argue Prescod was convicted because he is a “poor black-man” and a “scape-goat” for the white-man……… and Mariposa or Greene argue government intervened “to get he lock up” because Verla is a DEMS?

    Are we not discounting or showing a lack of faith relative to Verla’s ability as a lawyer, if we keep assuming Prescod “gine get lock to rh up?”

    Another thing…… there are those contributors among us who, on a daily basis, complain about the low standard of journalism exhibited by the Nation and Barbados Today. They also opine that journalists often do not report in-depth on serious matters such as this case, economic or political issues. Yet, not being present in Court during the case, they are making assumptions based on the articles written by the same “same sub-standard” journalists they often complain about.

    Look, doan mind me, yuh……………… I is are appallingly igrunt.

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  • Enuff’s “pick-a-noise crew,”

    Best laugh I had all day.

    You must admit that the case here is following the script that some suggested. I hope that at some time in the future, the convincing evidence that provided the sharp razor to cleanly sever CH from his crew will be made public.

    Until then the “pick-a-noise crew,” and salemites will clamor for equal justice.

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  • I ask again: The reasons given for withdrawing the case against Charles Herbert by the DPP was lack of evidence and not in the ‘public interest’. But what is the concept of public interest?
    Are we going to debate this philosophical idea on BU? Where are our legal theorists? Our political scientists? Our journalists? Our keyboard warriors?(Quote)

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  • NorthernObserver

    @Artax
    Personally, once charged, I would have liked all 3 to have appeared in court. And for the case to have been completed by now.

    The rest remains much conjecture. You have stated some scenarios, I could add several more. Hopefully, the evidence in court will answer questions, and politics is not a factor, either tied to the accused or who represents them. Now that CH is gone, possibly the factual evidence will become more important.

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  • @Northern Observer

    A damning observation when you comment “hopefully politics is not a factor ‘.

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  • NorthernObserver

    @Blogmaster
    it was in response to Artax, who had offered up political angles, among the many available.

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  • “There was $500K of evidence or was that imaginary?”

    lol…what 500K…ya hear from those in the know that it was 3 million dollars worth of cocaine that mysteriously turned into 500K of marijuana that is why we were getting 2 different stories about 2 different drug busts on the same day when it was only one bust..lol…so yes the 500K…it was imaginary…but the cocaine was not, heard that it ended up right back on the streets…anyway…

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  • Artax…only now seeing this post..

    “WURA

    ……..I don’t believe we’re on the same page. Perhaps you are “over-sensationalizing” this issue.

    Why would Vernese Brathwaite be “effectively GAGGED” and “prevented from even discussing” the circumstances under which Parris and Thornhill were changed………….. unless the case remains under judicial consideration and therefore prohibited from public discussion?”

    If she was a civil servant…she is still on the taxpayer’s payroll…she still has to observe the SECRETS ACT…she did her job by notifying the relevant authorities…and was shut down…so who is she going to be talking to about the Parris theft of funds from Clico or the illegal sale of the their scam policies..which i believe she was more concerned about…the illegal criminal act by Parris and the clico board of directors…there is still a 128 million dollar lawsuit against them all lingering in that blight for a supreme court..

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  • WURA

    It’s clear you don’t know anything about………….. or understand the “Official Secrecy Act.”

    The secrecy act is basically legislation to prevent the unauthorised disclosure of official information or state secrets by certain government employees……….. in the interest of national security.

    Pray tell, how do executives of an insurance company contravening an order from the Supervisor of Insurance not to sell new policies……… affect national security?

    I’ll give BU a bit of history relative to the CLICO affair…….. as follows:

    The Supervisor of Insurance (SOI) was empowered to regulate the conduct of all insurance companies operating in Barbados, including limits on their exposure and thus ability to settle their debts, what business they can offer, their officers, actuaries, accountants and brokers under the Insurance Act (the IA) and the Exempt Insurance Act (the EIA).

    In 2002, SOI, the late Carlos Belgrave, wrote the Registrar of Co-operatives instructing that office that the Executive Flexible Premium Annuities (EFPAs) being proffered by CLICO could not be marketed to credit unions. This letter was largely ignored and the Supervisor of Insurance, though concerned, appeared to lacked the legislative authority or fortitude it seems to take any further action.

    Again, in February 2009, the Supervisor of Insurance ordered CLICO International Life’s (CIL) management to stop selling its Executive Flexible Premium Annuities (EFPAs) to companies, credit unions and institutions. In fact, the company was told by the Supervisor’s office to “cease and desist from marketing the product until a review was completed,”…………. which was also ignored.

    Another order was issued in August 2009, prohibiting CIL from selling new policies. CIL once again ignored this order and sold over 800 new policies. Ms Brathwaite, as Deputy SOI, was more concerned with CIL contravening the order from the SOI. Hence, the reason why she asked the Commission of Police to investigate the matter.

    The order did not have anything to do with “Parris theft of funds from Clico”…….. that was a matter for CLICO to refer to the police.

    If your mentioning of “Parris theft of funds from Clico” is a reference to the famous Thompson & Associates’ invoice……. as revealed by Deloitte’s forensic audit………… it is important to note the audit was conducted AFTER Vernese was sent on “special leave.”

    Why would Vernese be “shut down” from discussing the circumstances under which Parris and Thornhill were changed………….. unless the case REMAINS under judicial consideration and therefore prohibited from public discussion?

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  • Artax…am dealing strictly with the fact that the lady was sent on PAID LEAVE for well over a decade, she may still be on paid leave AT TAXPAYER’S EXPENSE…and no one can say WHY…..

    A 128 million dollar lawsuit against the clico crooks….may give ya a clue.

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  • We should not think of this judicial theatre from the point of view of justice, but as part of the moral-free state policy. You can ignore the word “moral-free,” if that’s too cynical.

    I can only repeat myself. Herbert’s release was a great decision by the government because Herbert did not work against the new government.

    So there was no reason to lock him up.

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  • How did the government release Herbert? When has the DPP job become a government employee?

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  • “Artax…am dealing strictly with the fact that the lady was sent on PAID LEAVE for well over a decade, she may still be on paid leave AT TAXPAYER’S EXPENSE…and no one can say WHY….. A 128 million dollar lawsuit against the clico crooks….may give ya a clue.”

    Hmmmmmm……….

    My problem with you is your INCONSISTENCY.

    Would it have been much easier for you to simply ADMIT when you’re wrong, rather than trying to manipulate the “discussion” with irrelevant nonsense?

    Are you referring to the $128 million lawsuit the Barbados Investors and Policyholders Alliance (BIPA) filed in 2013 against CLICO to recoup lost money for its members?

    If so………….. how does this BIPA law suit “fit into your equation,” when it was FILED in 2013………..

    ……………and Vernese was sent on special leave in 2009 or there about……. according to you, “just to shut her up about the Leroy Parris Clico thefts,” to “effectively gag” her and to “prevent (her) from even discussing” the circumstances under which Parris and Thornhill were charged?

    What does the law suit have to do with what you’re referring to as “Parris CLICO thefts?”

    Are you suggesting government ANTICPATED BIPA would have filed a $128M lawsuit against CLICO in 2013 and sent Vernese on leave in 2009 “just to shut her up about the Leroy Parris Clico thefts?”

    Are you also suggesting Vernese would have been essentially on paid special leave, 4 years prior to the law suit……. and 6 years after it was filed…….. “just to shut her up about the Leroy Parris Clico thefts?”

    Perhaps you may want to explain.

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  • That is YOUR PROBLEM…. PERIOD..you always try to make it about who is posting as opposed to the facts surrounding the criminality or the corruption or the PEOPLE WHO PRACTICE SUCH…

    ..i don’t need to be consistent about anything, when i knew about the whole damn issue for years, call it first hand knowledge.. so i do not even need to read the same posts over and over …since reading it for years, ya supposed to be able to regurgitate it verbatim…

    the issue is taxpayers money being wasted for about 10 years sending a civil servant on leave for exposing an insurance company’s scam against policyholders…no one can explain that …including you.

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  • @ David July 2, 2019 10:35 AM

    The DPP is not an independent person, but a subordinate of the Honourable Attorney General and thus of the Government. It is therefore incomprehensible to me why the woman has not yet brought charges against Inniss and why other DLP ministers have not yet been subjected to harshest interrogation.

    In addition, the Prime Minister embodies the will of the people by virtue of her 29:1 rule in parliament. In other words, the Honorable Prime Minister represents the will of the people. And the people pay all public servants.

    If one combines both aspects (sovereignty of the people and representation by the Prime Minister’s leadership), all state power is derived from the Prime Minister herself. Anyone who acts against the Prime Minister agitates therefore against the will of the people and therefore no longer operates within the boundaries of the democratic state.

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  • The position of DPP is protected under the Constitution.

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  • If the DPP bring charges against those who accepted bribes, those who paid the bribes will be exposed.

    Therein lies the problem.

    Anyone want to bet that BLP members and supporters could be involved ?

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  • My friend

    FIRSTLY, you implied Vernese was sent on special leave “way before 2008,” which I said could not have been true, since she was sent on leave in 2010, AFTER she asked the then CoP Dottin to investigate CIL contravening the SOI order not to “sell new business.”

    SECONDLY, you then implied she was sent on leave to keep her quiet about the circumstances under which Parris and Thornhill were charged for contravening the SOI order not to sell new policies.

    I simply ASKED why would they have to “gag” her, because if the case is ongoing, it would be sub judice.

    THIRDLY, you mentioned something about her being “gaged” because of the secrecy act.

    I simply asked you since the secrecy act is basically legislation to prevent the unauthorised disclosure of official information or state secrets by certain government employees……….. in the interest of national security, pray tell, how do executives of an insurance company contravening an order from the Supervisor of Insurance not to sell new policies……… affect national security?

    FOURTHLY, you implied Vernese being sent on leave had something to do with the $128M law suit.

    I simply asked if you were referring to the $128M law suit BPA filed in 2013 against CIL to recoup insurance money for its members……. and if so, how does it “fit into your equation,” especially when Vernese was sent on special leave in 2010, 3 years BEFORE the suit was filed……. or if government anticipated the law suit was forthcoming and sent her on leave.

    INCONSISTENCY????

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  • RE: “That is YOUR PROBLEM…. PERIOD..you always try to make it about who is posting as opposed to the facts surrounding the criminality or the corruption or the PEOPLE WHO PRACTICE SUCH…”

    Firstly, if you believe it’s a matter of me “always try to make it about who is posting,”……… that’s YOUR PROBLEM…….… I would only QUESTION what you post, in the interest of CLARITY…….. or if I believe it isn’t FAIR……. if it is MISLEADING the forum……. inconsistent…… or the evidence proves otherwise.

    Secondly, you have NOT PRESENTED ANY FACTS as it relates to this issue…….. just your usual comments based on CONJECTURE rather than KNOWLEDGE………. and ASSUMPTIONS to “sensationalize” a simple issue of a Deputy Supervisor of Insurance who was sent on leave shortly after the asked the police to investigate why CIL contravened an order from her department not to sell “new business”……….

    ……… in an attempt to make us believe you had the “news scoop” even BEFORE the issue BECAME public. Then, when trapped, you reacted by trying to INSULT your way out of the “web of lies and deceit” you weaved yourself into.

    RE: “..i don’t need to be consistent about anything, when i knew about the whole damn issue for years, call it first hand knowledge..”…… if you had “first-hand” knowledge,” how come the reasons you gave for Vernese being sent on paid CHANGED each time I highlighted an inconsistency or impracticality in your comments?

    And I NEVER made any attempt to EXPLAIN why Vernese was sent on paid special leave……. IT WAS YOU……… and those explanations CHANGED each time after I questioned you about them.

    Now, you finally ADMITTED that NO ONE COULD EXPLAIN WHY Vernese was sent on paid special leave…….. when you could have done so from the onset.

    My friend, just a little friendly advice………….. quit trying to portray yourself as one who KNOWS EVERYTHING.

    Post the FACTS and the TRUTH and no one would have reason “try to make it about you.”

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  • @ David July 2, 2019 12:14 PM

    In Barbados, everyone is hiding behind paragraphs where the whole world knows that in this banana republic they are afraid to accuse and condemn former ministers of the DLP, almost as if the black DLP ministers were untouchable “high whites” from the old plantation age.

    No wonder all international investors run away screaming. Who would like to invest in a country that offers no rule of law?

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  • If one combines both aspects (sovereignty of the people and representation by the Prime Minister’s leadership), all state power is derived from the Prime Minister herself. Anyone who acts against the Prime Minister agitates therefore against the will of the people and therefore no longer operates within the boundaries of the democratic state.(Quote)

    @Tron

    You are clearly an expert on constitutional law. Wow! Plse tell me which college you learned the above?

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  • Art….enuff with the bullshit…ya can talk clarity as much as you want, i post what i know is NEGATIVELY IMPACTING THE PEOPLE…..you just want to one up and show up everyone lije an idiot…….last time you did that you were willing to THROW A MATURE BLACK WIDOW who was assaulted hy a white sexual predator tourist…under the bus…because YOU CANNOT HANDLE FACTS DEALING WITH CRIMINALITY AND THE CRIMINALS WHO PERPETRATE…crimes.

    Ya made yaself EMBARRASSED WITH THAT…and still you learned NOTHING..

    AND ….you cannot MAKE ME do anything different…WHEN WHAT I DO WORKS…

    Ah guess ya will just have to keep making yaself MISERABLE READING MY POSTS……while i carry on merrily getting results..

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  • NorthernObserver

    @Tron
    you may equally ask why has the DPP not proceeded against ICBL?

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  • Indeed.

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  • @NO

    It should be obvious. ICBL is a big player in Barbados with many government contracts.

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  • “.last time you did that you were willing to THROW A MATURE BLACK WIDOW who was assaulted hy a white sexual predator tourist…under the bus…because YOU CANNOT HANDLE FACTS DEALING WITH CRIMINALITY AND THE CRIMINALS WHO PERPETRATE…crimes.”

    My friend…..I

    WHY NOT PRESENT MY CONTRIBUTION TO PROVE IT.

    But then again, YOU CAN’T …… yuh know why…………because YOU ARE A NOTORIOUS LIAR……. you ADMITTED to PURPOSELY LYING in this forum………

    ………. to “making things up just to make things interesting.”

    I don’t want to show up anyone as an idiot……… you’re quite EFFICIENT in doing that ALL BY yourself….. I ASKED you SIMPLE QUESTION, which perhaps MADE it bit EASIER for you to EXPOSE yuh stupid self…..wid shiite like the secrecy act…..

    You’re the real EMBARRASSMENT to igrunt yuhself…….and BU, with all the LIES and FRAUDULENT shiite you post to this forum……….. like arguing Rolerick Hinds was the duly elected representative for St. Thomas based on him erecting a billboard near his constituency office….. and when SimpleSimon made you aware of your error, rather than ADMITTING you were WRONG, you “said” people in the constituency told you so.

    Now, after giving 4 different erroneous versions of why Vernese Brathwaite was sent on special leave…… which were all PROVEN to be questionable……..you FINALLY ADMITTED to NOT KNOWING the REASON WHY.

    And how about your relative that had a serious case of “walking pneumonia” and had to get a continuous “build-up” of fluid withdrawn from his lungs….. which was DISMISSED AS RUBBISH by Georgie Porgie. And you responded by implying GP’s medical expertise was more or less….. “outdated,” and against the background that recent medical information gave explanations similar to that of GP’s.

    Yuh mean wid ALL dem several relatives being doctors before many of us were born…… one uh dum kun tell yuh dat youh did talking shiite?

    And THIS is my ALL TIME FAVOURITE…… you mentioning a RELATIVE that have 20 CXC CAPE subjects.

    YOU believe you have the RIGHT to come to BU with your stupid shiite and people should ACCEPT it WITHOUT QUESTION?

    NO… HEEEELLLLLLL…..NO!!

    ANYTIME you come to BU with ANYTHING contribution that’s IMPRACTICAL, I’m GOING to ASK you for an EXPLANATION….. and if your explanation is ILLOGICAL……I’m going to ASK for a FURTHER explanation.

    The ONUS is on you to EXPLAIN or NOT……..

    But, “ah guess (IT’S YOU that) will just have to keep making yaself MISERABLE READING MY POSTS,”……. and judging by your RESPONSES…… it seems “WHAT I DO WORKS”….

    ……”while I carry on merrily getting results”…………..which is getting you to CONTINUOUSLY PROVING to BU you’re a FRAUD and LIAR.”

    Let BU observe you miserableness when you respond to this one.

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  • Lol…sure…ah want to see how ya are going to MAKE ME CHANGE MY STYLE……that gets results…

    Something ya will NEVER UNDERSTAND…never..

    Wuh i aint got nothing to prove to a dumb nitpicker who would prefer see a white tourist sexually assault a black woman…and denigrate that woman …cause YA DON’T KNOW ANY BETTER…

    is that miserable enuff for you…

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  • Hahahahaha

    Okay, but surely you must be HONEST enough to ADMIT I’m “a dumb nitpicker” who has been successful in EXPOSING your LYING ass…….”ah want to see how ya are going to MAKE ME CHANGE MY STYLE……that gets results…”

    I NEVER EXPECTED you to REPSOND by bringing FACTS to CORROBORATE your accusations…….

    …………you would RATHER ENGAGE in a FUTILE ATTEMPT to DENIGRATE me……by mentioning I “would prefer see a white tourist sexually assault a black woman,” ………..when you KNOW it’s NOT TRUE….AND YOU CAN’T PROVE IT!

    Every SCHEME your mind THINKS of is NOTHING but evil all the time……and I’ll demonstrate the EXTREME you’re PREPARED to go…….. just “TO GET (your ‘IMAGINARY’) RESULTS.”

    Since what I’m about to disclose has been RECORDED in a public forum………. I’m sure you remember those UNSOLICITED emails you sent to a PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL, in which YOU made certain MALICIOUS ALLEGATIONS against CGI.

    You PREVARICATED when ASKED certain PERTINENT questions and REFUSED to PROVIDE the SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION as EVIDENCE to SUBSTANTIATE your allegations.

    It was also reported that YOU subsequently “cut and pasted” details from the said individual’s publicly available work email address….. and USED ideas and opinions expressed on BU (as is your wont)…….. along with what you conjured in the imagination of your thoughts (as you are known to do)…………..

    …………. to “made up things just to make things interesting,” and posted the “information” to BU as though it was LEGITIMATELY SENT from the individual’s email account.

    I do not have ANY reason to disbelieve this account of what transpired…….. because you’re a known LIAR and FRAUD.

    Why would you engage in these DISPICABLE types of practices????

    …………….”cause YA DON’T KNOW ANY BETTER….”

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