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Barbados Medical Schools

Submitted by Dr. Georgie Porgie

BARBADOS OFFSHORE MEDICAL SCHOOLS, DO WE REALLY NEED THEM?

Elombe Mottley – The Next FIFTY YEARS of PRIDE and INDUSTRY! – may be a progressive thinker to many in Barbados, but in my mind he demonstrates his ignorance as a supreme illiterate in matters of medicine, and medical schools when he suggests that there should be medical schools here…there and everywhere in Barbados.

  1. During the years I hung around offshore Medical schools, there are at least two things that I learned.

    These schools find it difficult to bring in teachers from overseas because of the COST OF PAYING FOR WORK PERMITS FOR TEACHERS FROM OVERSEAS.

  2. Producing the most excellent website, whereupon thy can spew lie upon lie to lure unwary would be students and wannabe doctors to train at these schools.

I would enjoin commenters here to go to the websites of both AUB, and WUB and notice that not only are the websites very poor (suggesting that we are dealing with very poor con artists) but that there are no medical teachers at any of the schools who are Barbadians, and ask why? This at a time where several other offshore schools are now forced to employ locals to teach.

Why is it that WUB (see faculty and staff webpage) have few well qualified teachers listed on their site but yet they list 7 chefs and 7 security guards.

Who is collecting all the money for the WORK PERMITS for these staff members, I wonder?

I would invite you to go to this webpage on the valueMD site and follow the discussion on the thread

new medical school in Barbados in trouble already.

Notice that the valueMD moderator has tried to shut up the poster. Then try to use ctrl and C to try to download anything from this website and note that they have disabled ctrl and C

Then let us start a blog entitled BARBADOS AND OFFSHORE MEDICAL SCHOOLS DO W REALLY NEED THEM? Then let us try to understand and thrash out whether our Government has really sold out our medical education for thirty pieces of silver.

Please also read this thread on valueMD.

WUB website is http://www.wubmed.org/

AUB website is http://www.aubmed.org/

254 comments

  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    As part of de ole man s penance and daily practice I repeatedly ask GOD to forgive me a sinner and to bless me in mine ignorance FOR WE ARE ALL IGNORANT BEINGS, ignorant even compared to the folly of our Almight God.

    So mine is a daily enquiry into how to be better and wiser and more kind etc.

    Which brings me to this matter of medical school fraud and the continuance of said fraud.

    When Cynthia Forde was being interviewed and de ole man was there I would have asked her a series of different questions with the explicit objective of ascertaining her competence in this matter euphemism for exposing how incompetent she and her current administration are. AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE.

    “MS. FORDE EXPLAIN THE PROCESS ASSOCIATED WITH ANY TYPE OF EXTERNAL BUSINESS WANTING TO RELOCATE IN BARBADOS??”

    is it done by a letter or word of mouth?

    The reason I’m asking Cynthia is that with the precedence of Hardwood & Cahill & Del Masturbator Maestro & this Washington University scam it would appear that this is a pattern of incompetence that is just ammmm showing the depth of the Banana Republic entrenchment here.

    I mean look at this Cynthia

    You mean that AT NOT ONE SINGLE MINISTRY for example The Ministry of the Interior or National Security you ent got no policy nor procedure that coordinates every single aspect of said request from 1. Verifications of the Bonafides of the Principals 2. Certifications and Qualifications 3. Environmental Impact assessments 4. Police Certificates of Character 5. Money laundering Antecedents 6. Pedophilia records (ooops I said that already) 7. Insurance and liability protection for the citizenry proximate to the operations and for the customers.

    I mean simple shy$€ like that.

    What then will become evident is the dishonest set of policemen who are being paid to falsify the certificate of character searches with external counterparts aided and abetted by Bumpy and Stacy at immigration with the repeat work extensions every 6 months for 15 years and de people at de ministry of education who being paid to sign of on de peeple non existent qualifications.

    This pattern of embedded incompetence where staff at the particular agencies tasked with these jobs are failing in their responsibilities but getting rich as shy$€ while being paid by AMattress and DeBed people has to stop.

    But ooops dat would put alot of civil servants out of a source of ancillary income wouldn’t it and we cang have that in the banana Republic can we?

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ the Honourable Blogmaster your assistance please with an item here thank you

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  • Thinking that they were being genuinely prep for travel to Guyana to pursue a medical degree with an offshore university, more than 200 young people in India are now counting their losses, and at least four of them have committed suicide, after realizing that they were actually defrauded of their money and their dreams by a bogus student recruiter and his wife.(Quote)

    How a region has lost its reputation.

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  • The Chief Executive Officer of Washington University (Barbados) Inc is set to appear before the St Matthias Magistrates’ Court on multiple charges today.(Quote)

    Does this mean the medical school has been closed? How about the existing ones, will there now be a review?

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  • He was remanded to Dodds.

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  • But will his clever lawyer get him bail?

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  • Who is Ms. Ram’s lawyer of choice?

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  • Doc,

    You shout a lot, even when you are mistaken. Who approves medical practitioners in Barbados? Who was it who said Cuban qualifications were not recognised in Barbados? Are they qualified to make those decisions?

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  • LET BU FIND OUT THE ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS AND TELL YOU

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  • The Barbados Medical Council.

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  • Oh David. Don’t let the pompous doctor tease you in to nonsense. He knows who are the regulators. His appalling arrogance is simply to justify his nonsense about the lack of proper regulation of offshore medical schools in general, and the Washington in particular. The Washington scandal is proof, if it were needed, of the failure of regulation. Our regulation often lacks competence and is another manifestation of a failed state..
    Elsewhere one guy claims that because he has an LLM and diploma in financial regulation that can give weight to the ill-thought out notion of light-touch regulation. It was light touch regulation that led to the 2008 crisis.

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  • Who is teasing? You asked a question and it was answered. The blogmaster has been at this for too long to allow others to control our reactions.

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  • HAL I SENT YOU TO THE FOUNT OF KNOWLEDGE AND THE CONTROLLER OF KNOWLEDGE……………..NOTE THE WORD “CONTROL”

    I DONT TEASE FOLK HAL
    I SAY WHAT I HAVE TO SAY VERY CLEARLY AND VERY CAREFULLY, AND I MOCK AS NEEDED

    FROM YOUR LAST POST IT SEEMS YOU DID NOT GET THE ANSWER YOU SOUGHT FROM THE FOUNT OF KNOWLEDGE

    SOME WONT BE CONTROLLED BUT THEY SEEK TO CONTROL OTHERS
    BUT IT IS INDEED TRUE “VANITY OF VANITY” ALL IS VANITY

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  • David,

    It was meant as a rhetorical question to the doc. In other words, no matter who does the registration and checks, that person or organisation is carrying out the function of regulator. People cannot just turn up in Barbados and set up shop as a doctor. They must first go through a process, a regulatory process.
    To return to the substantive issue, the Washington scandal is regulatory failure on every level..

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  • Agree it is regulatory because a flavour of a performance bond or Letter of Credit should be a perquisite to setting up in Barbados. Today Barbadian taxpayers have to be feeding and housing the stranded Indian students.

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  • SO WHY YOU DONT COME AND FIX IT HAL CAUSE BU CANT FIX IT
    AND I DONT PARTICULARLY CARE
    ITS NOT AFFECTING MY FAMILY IN BIM

    I JUST HAPPY THAT I WAS NOT WORKING THERE

    KNOW THIS………..PEOPLE CAN BLOCK THINGS I SEEK TO PUT ON BU BUT THEY CANT FORCE ME TO CONTRIBUTE SENSE OR SUBSTANCE OR VALUABLE INFO

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  • Appearing in the video were then Prime Minister Stuart and Minister of Health John Boyce guaranteeing that the institution met the necessarily stipulations.(Quote)

    A failure of regulation. Our institutions fail on a regular basis. Barbados is a failed state.

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  • Doc you are being juvenile, like a teenager throwing a tantrum. Are you sure you are a trained doctor?

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  • The Washington scandal is proof, if it were needed, of the failure of regulation.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Barbados became a country for the practice of scams a while ago.

    Scandal, what scandal.

    People have to care for it to be a scandal.

    People have to have expectations that authorities can be depended upon to act in Barbados’ best interests.

    Right now, any overseas money is viewed as an investment, good for Barbados when in reality, it provides peanuts for a few monkeys who don’t have the ability to earn their way in life.

    … and Barbados is full of monkeys, they are rampant all over the place.

    As Miss Ram Put it at the anniversary of the Washington University of Barbados and she was helping to cut the Birthday cake with her grandson or great grandson:

    “There are high hopes for health tourism as a growth area in Barbados.

    This was the word coming from veteran businesswoman Mrs Asha Ram Mirchandani, owner of Case Grande Airport Hotel & Resort.

    She was speaking to the Barbados Advocate at the anniversary celebration of the Washington University of Barbados School of Medicine at the International Hall at that location, where she indicated this medical school shows the potential of health tourism in Barbados and creating new ways to earn foreign exchange.

    Mirchandani highlighted, “The past Government of Barbados has to be congratulated for the foresight they had of earning foreign exchange for this country, giving medical schools the opportunity to be established here as part of International Business. The Washington University is one of them, which is housed in the B Block of Case Grande, and they hope to bring in another 500 students. It has been a lot of hard work and we want to continue to push.”

    She continued: “The present Government also has to be congratulated for the Prime Minister’s foresight for carrying on the work of medical schools that have been established and we appreciate the people of Barbados for understanding business has to change and that we have to find new ways to bring foreign exchange. Also, the Ross School is coming to Barbados in January, [that] will also benefit Barbadians because 1 400 students are coming into Barbados.”

    According to her, “We at Case Grande have been doing whatever is possible to promote health tourism and this is an area that persons have been working on developing for the last ten years. We are now seeing the tip of the iceberg. It has been a struggle, but this is a classic example of health tourism. Health tourism is in the manifestos of both Governments. It has gone to Parliament and has been approved. This area is excellent for Barbados.

    “My appeal to the present Government is to please work with us and let the school be part of the development of Barbados. Right now people are suffering and they want to know how we will move forward as we see challenges in the society. Barbados can be the hub for health tourism. The seed has been sown, but it is time to do the rest of the work. We have students here from good families in India staying here at Casa Grande to study and experience this island.”
    Mirchandani appealed, “This is the first year of establishment of this school and we want all Barbadians to embrace the students and the school has opened up its doors to Barbadian students and the school will continue to invest in Barbados.” (NB)

    https://www.barbadosadvocate.com/news/medical-schools-good-move

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  • Standards and legislation are coming to regulate overseas universities, especially medical universities, looking to set up shop in Barbados.(Quote from our prime minister and minister of everything)

    Shutting the door after the horse has bolted. Our regulatory system – across almost all areas – is flawed. Plse remind the doc. We are a failed state.

    By the way, does the rime minister have the discipline to allow ministers to speak on their portfolios? If she has no confidence in them then she should say so. Who is acting minister of education?

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  • While the medical institution was given a charter by the Ministry of Education, it still remains unaccredited by the Barbados Accreditation Council (BAC), an arm of the education ministry. Granting of accreditation status to an institution is an expression of confidence in the institution’s mission and goals, the quality of faculty and students, the quality of academic programmes and the level and appropriateness of resources. Accreditation for international educational bodies and programmes is often guided by accreditation status in other countries.(Quote)

    Left hand and right hand. Further proof of a failure of regulation.

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ John October 9, 2018 6:16 AM
    The Washington scandal is proof, if it were needed, of the failure of regulation.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Barbados became a country for the practice of scams a while ago.
    Scandal, what scandal.
    People have to care for it to be a scandal.
    People have to have expectations that authorities can be depended upon to act in Barbados’ best interests.
    Right now, any overseas money is viewed as an investment, good for Barbados when in reality, it provides peanuts for a few monkeys who don’t have the ability to earn their way in life.
    … and Barbados is full of monkeys, they are rampant all over the place.”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Why not look on the bright side of the scam?

    Haven’t you been told ad nauseam by the policymakers aka politicians that Barbados -despite having in excess of 70,000 on the voluntary idle unemployment block- needs a bigger (and younger) demographic base to support the financial stability of the country’s NIS and social services?

    Isn’t the head-cracking former minister Jones well-known for advocating such a policy to replace the black demons stabbing one another in the juvenile jails called secondary schools?

    This is a well-arranged opportunity aka scam to implement such an underhand programme of the racial diversification of the local demographic landscape (much to the alarming dismay of Hal Austin).

    Besides, as you John would argue, it would be the golden opportunity to replace the fast dying-out Bajan white community leaving the aping blacks (aka genetically modified monkeys) to be the monopolists in the contracting business of ‘white-god’ Christianity.

    India is a country with a policy of exporting its excess of young people to earn forex and establish outposts for the spread of Indian culture in the many diasporas in the West and to sub-Saharan Africa.

    These so-called students of medicine are going no where (back to India or even Guyana or Trinidad) and would soon be part of the local business community.
    Thanks to the humanitarianism of the Bajan taxpayers.

    If only the black Guyanese (the real kith and kin of the same majority Bajan taxpayers) were that fortunate to have received such a ‘brown’ carpet welcome back home instead of the regional xenophobic reply of:
    ‘Ever so welcome, but you Guyanese blacks must wait for a call from the deceitful lying party.’

    Will the present BLP administration (which is going all out to be the good Samaritan to those East Indian economic asylum seekers) be making a formal apology to the black Guyanese who were treated like lepers when the Bajan economy was firing on a few more cylinders?

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ Dr. GP

    Earlier you made a comment about the demise of ValueMD? and suggested that BU would follow.

    Let me give you some insider information so to speak.

    Barbados Underground has increased its readership almost 150% over the last 18 months!

    You see postings THAT IS NOT READERSHIP.

    Now de ole man dun know your response but you dun know dat I going talk anyways hehdhdh

    The fact is that while more people are coming IT WOULD SEEM LIKE LESS PEOPLE FROM THE OLD GROUP ARE POSTING.

    This is because of a few reasons.

    1.Under the DLP, the ambience of the Barbados Underground was more conducive to anti DLP postings. After all we did have 10 years of mismanagement and the public sentiment was not too supportive of those demons

    2.During those years Mugabe would have courted the various social media outlets and would have found that BU had its intelligencia that it was desirable to court.

    3.The “courting” was couched in specific parameters that would have attracted the social activism tenets of the Honourable Blogmaster.

    4.However, as time has progressed, the Honourable Blogmaster is starting go see the “chinks” in the Mugabe armour.

    So what does he do?

    None of us can ever want to see the DLP back in the House of Assembly again, certainly not these swine that just inflicted this suffering.

    But he is aware of the Mottleyian agenda ergo the easing in of Grenville Phillips and his hope of a Third Movement Birth.

    And that is what is happening here Dr. GP and what we are on the surf feeling.

    The Seismic shift that is abirthing around us THAT THE MUGABIITES HAVE ASSEMBLED IN SUCH NUMBERS TO CRUSH and fellows like the 30th BLP minister & Leader of the Opposition Reverend Bishop Pastor Joseph Atherley is now motioning to have silenced.

    But I dun know what your response will be so…

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ the Honourable Blogmaster your assistance please with an item Here for Dr. GP thank you

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  • @ Dr. Georgie Porgie,

    HOPE THE HURRICANE DID NOT AFFECT YOU AND YOU ARE OK.

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  • The United States believes that corruption and a lax accreditation system have made Guyana an attractive territory for foreigners wishing to set up offshore medical universities, which is often used as a front to traffic students for a fee, and to also obtain money by fraud.”(Quote)

    Accreditation = regulation. Barbados is a regulation-free zone. Have we launched an inquiry in to the Donville Inniss affair? Have we launched an inquiry in to the Washington University affair? Have we launched a proper inquiry in to Clico?
    Barbados is a failed state.

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  • God Controls everything the Right hand of God moved across the waters of Barbados and removed Washington University
    Karma is a bit. ch
    The people of Dominica who were grossly disadvantaged by the theft of Ross University by Mia Mottley now have reason to celebrate
    Karma is a bit..ch

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  • ” Two of the top officials of the Washington University of Barbados who were on remand at HMP Dodds for over a month were granted $200,000 bail each today.

    The university’s Chief Executive officer 42-year-old Rao Venkata Gopi, of No. 11 Falcon Crest, Tuscany, Oldbury and the director 33-year-old Deoraj Jaimangal Dalchand of No. 3 Jacaranda Circle, Apple Drive, Union Development, both in St Philip were also ordered to surrender their passports to the St Matthias Magistrate’s Court before they could be released. The accused are scheduled to return before Chief Magistrate Christopher Birch on January 24, 2019. In the meantime, they must report to the District ‘C’ Police Station every Monday, Wednesday and Friday before 9:30 a.m. as a condition of bail.”

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2018/11/12/bail-for-fraud-accused/

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