Submitted by Dr. Georgie Porgie
BARBADOS OFFSHORE MEDICAL SCHOOLS, DO WE REALLY NEED THEM?
Elombe Mottley – The Next FIFTY YEARS of PRIDE and INDUSTRY! – may be a progressive thinker to many in Barbados, but in my mind he demonstrates his ignorance as a supreme illiterate in matters of medicine, and medical schools when he suggests that there should be medical schools here…there and everywhere in Barbados.
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During the years I hung around offshore Medical schools, there are at least two things that I learned.
These schools find it difficult to bring in teachers from overseas because of the COST OF PAYING FOR WORK PERMITS FOR TEACHERS FROM OVERSEAS.
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Producing the most excellent website, whereupon thy can spew lie upon lie to lure unwary would be students and wannabe doctors to train at these schools.
I would enjoin commenters here to go to the websites of both AUB, and WUB and notice that not only are the websites very poor (suggesting that we are dealing with very poor con artists) but that there are no medical teachers at any of the schools who are Barbadians, and ask why? This at a time where several other offshore schools are now forced to employ locals to teach.
Why is it that WUB (see faculty and staff webpage) have few well qualified teachers listed on their site but yet they list 7 chefs and 7 security guards.
Who is collecting all the money for the WORK PERMITS for these staff members, I wonder?
I would invite you to go to this webpage on the valueMD site and follow the discussion on the thread
new medical school in Barbados in trouble already.
Notice that the valueMD moderator has tried to shut up the poster. Then try to use ctrl and C to try to download anything from this website and note that they have disabled ctrl and C
Then let us start a blog entitled BARBADOS AND OFFSHORE MEDICAL SCHOOLS DO W REALLY NEED THEM? Then let us try to understand and thrash out whether our Government has really sold out our medical education for thirty pieces of silver.
Please also read this thread on valueMD.
WUB website is http://www.wubmed.org/
AUB website is http://www.aubmed.org/
Bullshit baffles some people.
RE USMLE certified faculty,
NEVER SEEN ONE OF THEM YET!
DOES THIS MEAN THAT THE TEACHERS PASSED THE USMLE EXAMS?
I AM SURE THAT THE EXCELLENT MEDICAL EDUCATORS IN INDIA HAVE NOT EVER TAKEN THE USMLE!
HAL The state appoints highly qualified medical regulators to look after the supervision of medical schools and practitioners.
TELL ME HAL WHO ARE THE PEOPLE IN THE ISLANDS WITH OFFSHORE SCHOOLS THAT ARE ” highly qualified medical regulators to look after the supervision of medical schools and practitioners.” TELL ME THEIR NAMES
WHAT ARE THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR A medical regulator?
I am not setting myself up as a medical regulator. PRAISE GOD!
RE the medical regulators in Barbados and the relevant ministries should have an open file (compiled partly from regular inspections) on all offshore medical schools
REALLY? WHERE THEY WILL GET THAT FROM SUH?
(and other businesses) and any suspicions should have been included in the transition reports received by the incoming government. That is how properly functioning societies work.
MAN WE WERE FUNCTIONING PERFECTLY WITH UWI
UNTIL THE IDIOTS BROUGHT IN THE BOGUS SCHOOLS
By the way, why don’t we attract offshore dental, business and private secondary schools? WHY DO WE NEED TO DO THIS? This alone makes me suspicious. WHY
Never seen a face fit like this one!!
This is the text of a link posted by Hants
I will try to discuss this later
THIS WRITER IS NOT A REGULATOR OF MEDICAL SCHOOLS, BUT WHAT HE HAS TO SAY IS VERY VERY IMFORMATIVE
Dear students and parents,
We would like to inform you that due to the introduction of neet exam, lot of students are facing difficulty in order to get a seat in mbbs course in india. To attract students for medical course from india, a big business lobby from andhra pradesh and tamil nadu started medical schools in caribbean islands & south america using the american place name.in addition to it they advertise that their schools and hospitals in america which help students who can easily earn the salary of rupees 3-8lakh. They mislead the candidates and asked to deposit 35 to 40 lacks with a promise to earn doctorate of medicine from america and work in america even there is no mci screening exam mandatory to practice in india after the study. The following is one of the advertisements received from a friend:
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Washington university of barbados
Mbbs+md in americas &
Complete ms program free of cost
No entrance exam, no mci exam, fees in installment, free air and visa
Opportunity to earn 3 to 8lac pm after 6th year, indian food available
Total exp – 37 lac including all
Admission fees, tuition fees, air ticket, visa, food & stay
Book your seat now
Admission open for january 2018 &
September 2018
Contact us [protected]
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See the above advertisement and think how it is possible? Let us inform you one thing that the advertisement itself is a big lie.. It is impossible by anyone. I will deploy the reasons below:
These colleges are off-shore schools for the students (Usa & canada citizens) those who couldn’t get medical admission in usa or canada through mcat such students can do their basic science through ecfmg schools. After the completion of basic science program they can go back to usa (Because they are usa or canada citizens-no need any visa) to do clinical rotation and usmle i, ii & iii. These schools are not designed for indian students. Here are the reasons:
If an indian citizen student is joined to these kind of school, they will never get a visa to do the clinical rotation in usa after the completion of pre-med and basic science.
Clinical rotation is not a class room based study therefor there is no visa. Even i20 (Student visa) can be issued only for classroom based studies with usa government approved college and universities which is in usa. And there is no i20 (Student visa) to do clinical rotation in usa for the international students. Then how those schools will issue visa for the students?
The students need to do the clinical rotation in teaching hospital under green book or blue book category hospitals and this is expensive (Average 1 semester cost around 15000 to 20000 usd and they need to do 6 semester. So total it will become 120, 000 usd fees only). The caribbean schools are advertising that they can provide the whole program only for 40lakh including food and accommodation, visa, air tickets… how it is possible? Then better if they market it in usa, then they will get 10, 000 students from usa itself…why they are not marketing this program in usa??? Because it’s a total fake program….
And these schools have no hospital in america and also clinical rotation has no i20? (Student visa), then how they can send the student to usa for clinical rotation?
They are saying md studies in usa are free of cost and getting salary of 3-8lakhs…. There are lots of students (American citizens) who have already passed usmle step i, step ii (Cs & ck) and step iii and clinical rotation finished in usa teaching hospitals are still waiting to get a residency program (Matching program). Then we don’t know how these caribbean schools with indian students are going to get it ….
Most of the caribbean and south american schools have no camhp approval, thus the students are not even eligible to apply for usmle exam.
And the funniest part is nobody who has usmle qualified faculty to teach in these schools.
Those schools know clearly that the students will never pass usmle and nothing to worry about clinical rotation part in usa. And there is no question arises!
Only the way the student will get visa to usa (Visiting) is to qualify usmle step i (Above 90%) and sep ii cs (Above 90%) and to do ck-clinical part (Short term visiting visa). And the student needs to apply it from their home country with full financial background all the supportive documents to us embassy. And this is also very hard to get approval.
Those schools are convincing the students if they couldn’t pass usmle then they will arrange it in africa, nepal. But there also they won’t get any mci approved hospitals for those students. So you can guess what will happen to the student and their degree…! How they can apply for mci exam? What they will do with their degree?
It is really a shocking fact that 6 months old schools where no hospital and basic facilities got listed in mci website… it’s still a mystery… and in india here many reputed hospitals have been applying to get approval from mci with more than 500-1000 beds for many years and still couldn’t afford an approval to start medical college….
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As per the rules and regulations with mci, an indian student with foreign medical studies never can do pre-med, basic science and clinical rotation in india. But some schools are providing pre-med program/clinical rotation in india? How it is legal? How washington university of barbados still conducting pre-med program in bangalore with thousands of students?
Some of the caribbean schools like rose, st. Johns, and st. James are few good off-shore schools and they never take indian students because they know the indian student will never get i20 – student visa to usa for clinical rotation to complete their studies.
I thought they had amended the laws to make using Barbados in company names very difficult?
I will see if I can find the relevant act.
Maybe Jeff can help!!
Companies Act – Prohibited name
The name of a company
(a) must not be the same as or similar to the name or business name of any other person or of any association, partnership or firm, if the use of that name would be likely to confuse or mislead, unless the person, association, partnership or firm consents in writing to the use of that name in whole or in part, and
(i) if required by the Registrar in the case of any person, undertakes to dissolve or change his or its name to a
dissimilar name within 6 months after the filing of the articles by which the name is acquired, or
(ii) if required by the Registrar in the case of an association, partnership or firm, undertakes to cease to carry on its
business or activities, or undertakes to change its name to a dissimilar name, within 6 months after the filing of the
articles by which the name is acquired;
(b) must not be identical to the name of a body corporate incorporated under the laws of Barbados before 1st January, 1985;
(c) must not suggest or imply a connection with the Crown, or the Government or of any Ministry, department, branch, bureau,service, agency or activity of the Government, unless consent in writing to the proposed name is duly obtained from the appropriate Minister; …………… DONVILLE PERHAPS IN A DIFFERENT INCARNATION
(d) must not suggest or imply a connection with a political party or a leader of a political party;
(e) must not suggest or imply a connection with a university or a professional association recognised by the laws of Barbados, unless the university or professional association concerned consents in writing to the use of the proposed name; and
(f) must not be a name that is prohibited by the regulations.
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Not quite, but I am sure the name BARBADOS is jealously guarded and not available for free use … will check some more.
… There is also a big deal with using the word Royal … connection with the Crown!!
As part of de ole man s penance and daily practice I repeatedly ask GOD to forgive me a sinner and to bless me in mine ignorance FOR WE ARE ALL IGNORANT BEINGS, ignorant even compared to the folly of our Almight God.
So mine is a daily enquiry into how to be better and wiser and more kind etc.
Which brings me to this matter of medical school fraud and the continuance of said fraud.
When Cynthia Forde was being interviewed and de ole man was there I would have asked her a series of different questions with the explicit objective of ascertaining her competence in this matter euphemism for exposing how incompetent she and her current administration are. AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE.
“MS. FORDE EXPLAIN THE PROCESS ASSOCIATED WITH ANY TYPE OF EXTERNAL BUSINESS WANTING TO RELOCATE IN BARBADOS??”
is it done by a letter or word of mouth?
The reason I’m asking Cynthia is that with the precedence of Hardwood & Cahill & Del Masturbator Maestro & this Washington University scam it would appear that this is a pattern of incompetence that is just ammmm showing the depth of the Banana Republic entrenchment here.
I mean look at this Cynthia
You mean that AT NOT ONE SINGLE MINISTRY for example The Ministry of the Interior or National Security you ent got no policy nor procedure that coordinates every single aspect of said request from 1. Verifications of the Bonafides of the Principals 2. Certifications and Qualifications 3. Environmental Impact assessments 4. Police Certificates of Character 5. Money laundering Antecedents 6. Pedophilia records (ooops I said that already) 7. Insurance and liability protection for the citizenry proximate to the operations and for the customers.
I mean simple shy$€ like that.
What then will become evident is the dishonest set of policemen who are being paid to falsify the certificate of character searches with external counterparts aided and abetted by Bumpy and Stacy at immigration with the repeat work extensions every 6 months for 15 years and de people at de ministry of education who being paid to sign of on de peeple non existent qualifications.
This pattern of embedded incompetence where staff at the particular agencies tasked with these jobs are failing in their responsibilities but getting rich as shy$€ while being paid by AMattress and DeBed people has to stop.
But ooops dat would put alot of civil servants out of a source of ancillary income wouldn’t it and we cang have that in the banana Republic can we?
@ the Honourable Blogmaster your assistance please with an item here thank you
Thinking that they were being genuinely prep for travel to Guyana to pursue a medical degree with an offshore university, more than 200 young people in India are now counting their losses, and at least four of them have committed suicide, after realizing that they were actually defrauded of their money and their dreams by a bogus student recruiter and his wife.(Quote)
How a region has lost its reputation.
The Chief Executive Officer of Washington University (Barbados) Inc is set to appear before the St Matthias Magistrates’ Court on multiple charges today.(Quote)
Does this mean the medical school has been closed? How about the existing ones, will there now be a review?
He was remanded to Dodds.
But will his clever lawyer get him bail?
Who is Ms. Ram’s lawyer of choice?
Doc,
You shout a lot, even when you are mistaken. Who approves medical practitioners in Barbados? Who was it who said Cuban qualifications were not recognised in Barbados? Are they qualified to make those decisions?
The Barbados Medical Council.
LET BU FIND OUT THE ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS AND TELL YOU
Oh David. Don’t let the pompous doctor tease you in to nonsense. He knows who are the regulators. His appalling arrogance is simply to justify his nonsense about the lack of proper regulation of offshore medical schools in general, and the Washington in particular. The Washington scandal is proof, if it were needed, of the failure of regulation. Our regulation often lacks competence and is another manifestation of a failed state..
Elsewhere one guy claims that because he has an LLM and diploma in financial regulation that can give weight to the ill-thought out notion of light-touch regulation. It was light touch regulation that led to the 2008 crisis.
Who is teasing? You asked a question and it was answered. The blogmaster has been at this for too long to allow others to control our reactions.
HAL I SENT YOU TO THE FOUNT OF KNOWLEDGE AND THE CONTROLLER OF KNOWLEDGE……………..NOTE THE WORD “CONTROL”
I DONT TEASE FOLK HAL
I SAY WHAT I HAVE TO SAY VERY CLEARLY AND VERY CAREFULLY, AND I MOCK AS NEEDED
FROM YOUR LAST POST IT SEEMS YOU DID NOT GET THE ANSWER YOU SOUGHT FROM THE FOUNT OF KNOWLEDGE
SOME WONT BE CONTROLLED BUT THEY SEEK TO CONTROL OTHERS
BUT IT IS INDEED TRUE “VANITY OF VANITY” ALL IS VANITY
David,
It was meant as a rhetorical question to the doc. In other words, no matter who does the registration and checks, that person or organisation is carrying out the function of regulator. People cannot just turn up in Barbados and set up shop as a doctor. They must first go through a process, a regulatory process.
To return to the substantive issue, the Washington scandal is regulatory failure on every level..
Agree it is regulatory because a flavour of a performance bond or Letter of Credit should be a perquisite to setting up in Barbados. Today Barbadian taxpayers have to be feeding and housing the stranded Indian students.
SO WHY YOU DONT COME AND FIX IT HAL CAUSE BU CANT FIX IT
AND I DONT PARTICULARLY CARE
ITS NOT AFFECTING MY FAMILY IN BIM
I JUST HAPPY THAT I WAS NOT WORKING THERE
KNOW THIS………..PEOPLE CAN BLOCK THINGS I SEEK TO PUT ON BU BUT THEY CANT FORCE ME TO CONTRIBUTE SENSE OR SUBSTANCE OR VALUABLE INFO
Appearing in the video were then Prime Minister Stuart and Minister of Health John Boyce guaranteeing that the institution met the necessarily stipulations.(Quote)
A failure of regulation. Our institutions fail on a regular basis. Barbados is a failed state.
Doc you are being juvenile, like a teenager throwing a tantrum. Are you sure you are a trained doctor?
The Washington scandal is proof, if it were needed, of the failure of regulation.
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Barbados became a country for the practice of scams a while ago.
Scandal, what scandal.
People have to care for it to be a scandal.
People have to have expectations that authorities can be depended upon to act in Barbados’ best interests.
Right now, any overseas money is viewed as an investment, good for Barbados when in reality, it provides peanuts for a few monkeys who don’t have the ability to earn their way in life.
… and Barbados is full of monkeys, they are rampant all over the place.
As Miss Ram Put it at the anniversary of the Washington University of Barbados and she was helping to cut the Birthday cake with her grandson or great grandson:
“There are high hopes for health tourism as a growth area in Barbados.
This was the word coming from veteran businesswoman Mrs Asha Ram Mirchandani, owner of Case Grande Airport Hotel & Resort.
She was speaking to the Barbados Advocate at the anniversary celebration of the Washington University of Barbados School of Medicine at the International Hall at that location, where she indicated this medical school shows the potential of health tourism in Barbados and creating new ways to earn foreign exchange.
Mirchandani highlighted, “The past Government of Barbados has to be congratulated for the foresight they had of earning foreign exchange for this country, giving medical schools the opportunity to be established here as part of International Business. The Washington University is one of them, which is housed in the B Block of Case Grande, and they hope to bring in another 500 students. It has been a lot of hard work and we want to continue to push.”
She continued: “The present Government also has to be congratulated for the Prime Minister’s foresight for carrying on the work of medical schools that have been established and we appreciate the people of Barbados for understanding business has to change and that we have to find new ways to bring foreign exchange. Also, the Ross School is coming to Barbados in January, [that] will also benefit Barbadians because 1 400 students are coming into Barbados.”
According to her, “We at Case Grande have been doing whatever is possible to promote health tourism and this is an area that persons have been working on developing for the last ten years. We are now seeing the tip of the iceberg. It has been a struggle, but this is a classic example of health tourism. Health tourism is in the manifestos of both Governments. It has gone to Parliament and has been approved. This area is excellent for Barbados.
“My appeal to the present Government is to please work with us and let the school be part of the development of Barbados. Right now people are suffering and they want to know how we will move forward as we see challenges in the society. Barbados can be the hub for health tourism. The seed has been sown, but it is time to do the rest of the work. We have students here from good families in India staying here at Casa Grande to study and experience this island.”
Mirchandani appealed, “This is the first year of establishment of this school and we want all Barbadians to embrace the students and the school has opened up its doors to Barbadian students and the school will continue to invest in Barbados.” (NB)
https://www.barbadosadvocate.com/news/medical-schools-good-move
Standards and legislation are coming to regulate overseas universities, especially medical universities, looking to set up shop in Barbados.(Quote from our prime minister and minister of everything)
Shutting the door after the horse has bolted. Our regulatory system – across almost all areas – is flawed. Plse remind the doc. We are a failed state.
By the way, does the rime minister have the discipline to allow ministers to speak on their portfolios? If she has no confidence in them then she should say so. Who is acting minister of education?
While the medical institution was given a charter by the Ministry of Education, it still remains unaccredited by the Barbados Accreditation Council (BAC), an arm of the education ministry. Granting of accreditation status to an institution is an expression of confidence in the institution’s mission and goals, the quality of faculty and students, the quality of academic programmes and the level and appropriateness of resources. Accreditation for international educational bodies and programmes is often guided by accreditation status in other countries.(Quote)
Left hand and right hand. Further proof of a failure of regulation.
@ John October 9, 2018 6:16 AM
The Washington scandal is proof, if it were needed, of the failure of regulation.
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Barbados became a country for the practice of scams a while ago.
Scandal, what scandal.
People have to care for it to be a scandal.
People have to have expectations that authorities can be depended upon to act in Barbados’ best interests.
Right now, any overseas money is viewed as an investment, good for Barbados when in reality, it provides peanuts for a few monkeys who don’t have the ability to earn their way in life.
… and Barbados is full of monkeys, they are rampant all over the place.”
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Why not look on the bright side of the scam?
Haven’t you been told ad nauseam by the policymakers aka politicians that Barbados -despite having in excess of 70,000 on the voluntary idle unemployment block- needs a bigger (and younger) demographic base to support the financial stability of the country’s NIS and social services?
Isn’t the head-cracking former minister Jones well-known for advocating such a policy to replace the black demons stabbing one another in the juvenile jails called secondary schools?
This is a well-arranged opportunity aka scam to implement such an underhand programme of the racial diversification of the local demographic landscape (much to the alarming dismay of Hal Austin).
Besides, as you John would argue, it would be the golden opportunity to replace the fast dying-out Bajan white community leaving the aping blacks (aka genetically modified monkeys) to be the monopolists in the contracting business of ‘white-god’ Christianity.
India is a country with a policy of exporting its excess of young people to earn forex and establish outposts for the spread of Indian culture in the many diasporas in the West and to sub-Saharan Africa.
These so-called students of medicine are going no where (back to India or even Guyana or Trinidad) and would soon be part of the local business community.
Thanks to the humanitarianism of the Bajan taxpayers.
If only the black Guyanese (the real kith and kin of the same majority Bajan taxpayers) were that fortunate to have received such a ‘brown’ carpet welcome back home instead of the regional xenophobic reply of:
‘Ever so welcome, but you Guyanese blacks must wait for a call from the deceitful lying party.’
Will the present BLP administration (which is going all out to be the good Samaritan to those East Indian economic asylum seekers) be making a formal apology to the black Guyanese who were treated like lepers when the Bajan economy was firing on a few more cylinders?
@ Dr. GP
Earlier you made a comment about the demise of ValueMD? and suggested that BU would follow.
Let me give you some insider information so to speak.
Barbados Underground has increased its readership almost 150% over the last 18 months!
You see postings THAT IS NOT READERSHIP.
Now de ole man dun know your response but you dun know dat I going talk anyways hehdhdh
The fact is that while more people are coming IT WOULD SEEM LIKE LESS PEOPLE FROM THE OLD GROUP ARE POSTING.
This is because of a few reasons.
1.Under the DLP, the ambience of the Barbados Underground was more conducive to anti DLP postings. After all we did have 10 years of mismanagement and the public sentiment was not too supportive of those demons
2.During those years Mugabe would have courted the various social media outlets and would have found that BU had its intelligencia that it was desirable to court.
3.The “courting” was couched in specific parameters that would have attracted the social activism tenets of the Honourable Blogmaster.
4.However, as time has progressed, the Honourable Blogmaster is starting go see the “chinks” in the Mugabe armour.
So what does he do?
None of us can ever want to see the DLP back in the House of Assembly again, certainly not these swine that just inflicted this suffering.
But he is aware of the Mottleyian agenda ergo the easing in of Grenville Phillips and his hope of a Third Movement Birth.
And that is what is happening here Dr. GP and what we are on the surf feeling.
The Seismic shift that is abirthing around us THAT THE MUGABIITES HAVE ASSEMBLED IN SUCH NUMBERS TO CRUSH and fellows like the 30th BLP minister & Leader of the Opposition Reverend Bishop Pastor Joseph Atherley is now motioning to have silenced.
But I dun know what your response will be so…
@ the Honourable Blogmaster your assistance please with an item Here for Dr. GP thank you
@ Dr. Georgie Porgie,
HOPE THE HURRICANE DID NOT AFFECT YOU AND YOU ARE OK.
The United States believes that corruption and a lax accreditation system have made Guyana an attractive territory for foreigners wishing to set up offshore medical universities, which is often used as a front to traffic students for a fee, and to also obtain money by fraud.”(Quote)
Accreditation = regulation. Barbados is a regulation-free zone. Have we launched an inquiry in to the Donville Inniss affair? Have we launched an inquiry in to the Washington University affair? Have we launched a proper inquiry in to Clico?
Barbados is a failed state.
God Controls everything the Right hand of God moved across the waters of Barbados and removed Washington University
Karma is a bit. ch
The people of Dominica who were grossly disadvantaged by the theft of Ross University by Mia Mottley now have reason to celebrate
Karma is a bit..ch
” Two of the top officials of the Washington University of Barbados who were on remand at HMP Dodds for over a month were granted $200,000 bail each today.
The university’s Chief Executive officer 42-year-old Rao Venkata Gopi, of No. 11 Falcon Crest, Tuscany, Oldbury and the director 33-year-old Deoraj Jaimangal Dalchand of No. 3 Jacaranda Circle, Apple Drive, Union Development, both in St Philip were also ordered to surrender their passports to the St Matthias Magistrate’s Court before they could be released. The accused are scheduled to return before Chief Magistrate Christopher Birch on January 24, 2019. In the meantime, they must report to the District ‘C’ Police Station every Monday, Wednesday and Friday before 9:30 a.m. as a condition of bail.”
https://barbadostoday.bb/2018/11/12/bail-for-fraud-accused/
http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/213397/bail-fraud-accused
the semester in start yet proper and the trouble start already
Rent rage
Article by
Marlon Madden Published on
December 31, 2018
A large portion of the estimated $100 million injection into the local economy from the presence of the Ross University School of Medicine (RUSM) will go toward their housing accommodation at the sprawling Villages at Coverley. Students are to pay between US$4,040 and US$4,840 per semester or BDS$2020-$2420 each month per student.
Each unit at Coverley is set up to accommodate three or four students, this means each student will be paying over US$1,000 in rent per month for the four months of each semester.
This could easily translate into more than US$4 million per semester or over US$12 million per year in rent for the approximately 1,000 registered students assuming the minimum three-student occupancy and the lowest associated rent.
And the students are expressing disappointment at the apparent ‘mandatory’ arrangement which gives them no leeway to find competitive lodging on their own.
According to irate students, the university is requiring “all full-time students enrolled in the Medical Sciences 4- or 5-semester curriculum, to reside in RUSM on-campus housing, located at the Villages at Coverley”. This was not the case when they attended the school based in Dominica said the irate returning student, livid at the change of process.
According to the RUSM website, there are four options for accommodation within the Coverley community, ranging from three-bedroom units and four-bedroom units, with shared or private bathrooms, with prices from US$4,040 to US$4,840 per semester, per student.
There are also three-bedroom family units, which will be rented for US$8,640 per semester.
According to the university, “Rent includes property management, exterior and interior maintenance, personal property insurance, deep cleaning between each semester, Wi-fi, trash pickup, monthly utility allotment (water, electric and sewer), parking and gym membership.”
“Non-student companions approved to share a bedroom in a general student unit pay US$500/semester amenities and administration fee,” it added.
Barbados TODAY investigations revealed that some students were either not willing to pay the price being asked or simply wanted to live elsewhere on island and had therefore applied for housing exemption but were not approved and told that “there is not an appeals process”.
According to the RUSM Housing Exemption request form “A student may be granted an exemption to this requirement by the Associate Dean of Student Affairs or designee. All requests are processed on a case-by-case basis.”
Barbados TODAY understands that some students had raised concerns about the pricing while a handful of them had applied for “housing exemption”, meaning they would prefer to rent accommodation elsewhere so they could have the full “island experience” while living amongst regular residents ‘like we did in Dominica’.
According to concerned students, who wished not to be identified, living arrangements in Dominica were different, and on-campus housing could go from US$450 to over US$650 per month per student, while off-campus rent could reach over US$800. Each student had the option of renting solo.
The students said they simply felt “entrapped”, explaining that they were initially told that living at the Villages at Coverley was not mandatory, but this later changed.
“After all our [proposed] hosts submitted all their very personal information that Ross asked for to house us – citizenship proof, passport information – then they denied everyone,” the students complained.
Students seeking to get housing exemptions in Barbados for the Spring 2019 semester had to fully complete and submit a form along with supporting documents by November 25, 2018.
However, any current or incoming students who were not granted housing exemption “will be assigned on-campus housing automatically and charged accordingly”, the form stated with the warning that “Decisions made by the Housing Exemption Committee are final.”
Information provided on the form as reasons for exemption include: accompanying companions/dependents whose needs cannot be met by RUSM Student Housing; local national or living with local family in Barbados; medical reason and/or disability that cannot be accommodated within the RUSM on-campus housing.
Following Hurricane Maria’s devastation of Dominica in September 2017, Adtalem Global Education, the parent company of RUSM, agreed to host the students at the Villages at Coverley come January 2019.
Between September 2017 and December 2018, continuing students, most of whom are from the US and Canada, were being housed between Knoxville, Tennessee and St Kitts, where they were said they also had “the freedom of choice”.
They said since raising the concern about accommodation costs and not being able to freely choose where to live, the university has been less than accommodating.
They said the “RUSM in Knoxville” Facebook page, where they also aired their concerns, was deleted.
“Our concerns are usually never resolved. We are always told that we are complaining too much and that we ‘should be grateful that Ross is providing’ these things for us,” said one student.
“Not only are we not given the choice, but this also hurts the rental property owners of the area that will not benefit from students being able to use their properties to accommodate their personal lifestyle,” the student added.
In addition to accommodation, students also pay tuition fee of more than US$23,000, US$700 in health insurance and a student services fee of US$900. There is a one-time application fee of US$250, electronic materials fee of US$400 and pet fee of US$500.
When Barbados TODAY reached out to officials of Adtalem Global Education regarding the students’ concerns, the university did not directly answer the questions posed.
However, in a short response, the officials said “very few” students applied for housing exemption from among the more than 1,000 registered.
“The Ross University School of Medicine (RUSM) is a modern living-learning community. As such, RUSM students are enthused about our new Barbados instructional campus, housing and neighbourhood amenities. Because access to living-learning communities are preferred by many students, they are not unusual as a resource for the first two years of graduate medical education,” the statement said.
“RUSM implemented an exception process for those few students with other needs. All requests for exemption are individually reviewed; there have been very few among our (more than) 1,000 students registered,” it added, without saying if any, or how many students were granted exemption.
“I don’t think Ross can dictate where US, Barbados or other nationals can live. They kept changing the rules, got our hopes up then denied nearly 100 per cent,” one student told Barbados TODAY.
It was during a press conference in August that Prime Minister Mia Mottley announced that the relocation of the Ross University to Barbados should result in a $100 million injection into the local economy.
Besides rentals, the Massy Supermarket in Coverley is also in line to benefit significantly from the students’ grocery shopping.
In addition to the over 1,000 students, some 100 faculty and 200 administrative support staff are to also find accommodation at the Coverley development.
It is not immediately clear how much money has been spent on the development of the school itself to be located at the Lloyd Erskine Sandiford Centre.
The school’s official opening will take place on Saturday, January 5, 2019.
How can the university mandate where a student must live?
This sounds like an unusual arrangement.
What if accommodation is available across the road at half the cost of Coverley?
This has to be a misunderstanding.
@Bush Tea
Let us wait for a corroborating report, Barbados Today gets it wrong sometimes.
The word on the ground is that the sudden interest by Haitians to visit Barbados is linked to recruitment effort to staff the Ross University complex for starvation wages of course. What have we come to IF true?
Not surprised at the turn of events
Ross University in their handling of the Dominica govt lied to the govt in the face about remaining in. Dominica knowning full well that they were going to barbados and the Dominica govt was finiancially making plans for Ross to stay.
As the saying like attracts like.Ross and Mia were are two peas in the same pod.
Both know how to use lies and political tricks to get what they want
This school will be at LESC?
What the Hell…!!!
Why not at Cave Hill which has been seeking higher enrolment?
So we have now brought hundreds of students and faculty here in order to:
1 – Provide rental income for a man who systematically raided our Treasury over the past ten years to the tune of (according to the PRESENT government members estimate when they were in opposition) $1B.
2 – further depress wages and introduce more slum-like living conditions for its employees
3 – Destroy the only first class facility on the island for international conferences (or even large local meetings)
4 – Further overload our deteriorating infrastructure (roads, sewerage systems, food imports, crime, etc0
What are the benefits?
– More money for baloney
– higher ‘tourism’ numbers (but weaker tourism spend)
– a few more Bajans employed as maids and gardeners
As John continues to ask…
WHAT IS THE OVERALL PLAN…..?
We have to continue to press for information. A relevant democracy requires optimal people participation. This is the time for the independents read NOT yardfowls to unleash what Barrow and his successors prepared us for. This is our time!
A beautiful morning to all. Happy 2019.
“What are the benefits?
– More money for baloney
– higher ‘tourism’ numbers (but weaker tourism spend)
– a few more Bajans employed as maids and gardeners”
It is amazing how we start with grand plans but as time passes these plans mature into nothing more than putting as many dollars as possible into as few pockets as possible, and the crumbs to the rest of the populace.
So a fellow who built on or cleaned out a room with the hope of catching a few of these dollars is being eased out of the equation.
Students will have their pockets picked before getting off campus.
There is no real circulation of money into the general economy.
My heart goes out to the students. However, what of those innocent Bajans who purchased their house at Coverly in the knowledge that it was a residential development; only to see a change of use of the site into a virtual student campus. You simply can not make up this stuff.
Were the residents consulted that the site was become to a student campus? Surely this must be a case for the lawyers.
It is a trade of for the residents, before the arrival of the student it was a virtual ghost town vulnerable to crime. Lesser of the two evils for the residents you think?
Would be an even better trade off if the residents could get a piece of the pie instead of having a financial “inland island”, just next door.
9:20 AM
So whose fault is it that Barbados has once again elected the same ole same ole govt that had not demonstrated in fourteen years it had a vision on how to build an economy
Mia took upon herself to snatch Ross away from Dominica most likely aware of the scam that Ross had prepared for the students living accomadations
It couldn’t be that govt was not aware since preplanning between Ross Govt and Colverly for student accommodationhad to be done through contractual agreements prior to Ross coming to Barbados
The students just like the local investors are getting the end of the shi..ty sticks
One can also bet that Mia long arm of unilateral decisions are a part of how this debacle is being played out when agreements where made between Ross and govt.which now will be costing the students more than they had bargain for
Last comment on this…
Better be an MM (nbom mMoney, but Mark Maloney) ‘supporter’ (MMs) than a common political agent. The MMs feed no matter who is in power, whereas the BLPites and DLPites have seasons of famine and of plenty.
You got it, it is the Yardfowls that have to scratch for grain.
To entice poor and guillible immigrants to come to a country under the disguise of giving them Hope through jobs at slave wages cost is unethical and immoral which no govt should become part.
Ross has shown by its many underhanded decisions to leave Dominica that the last concern for them is morals and ethics
However i am more lead to believe that the immigration policy of letting Haitians come here can be aligned to Ross having to find people to work at low level position at the university and govt might have belived the Haitians would be suitable employees for those position
Mariposa
What does that tell you about the slogan the BLP and the kool aid drinkers kept repeating -MIA CARES !
YEAH RIGHT ! MIA CARES BOUT SHE POCKET AND BOUT BEING THE FIRST FEMALE PRIME MINISTER.
Mia knows she has sent home thousands of low level public servants – many of whom are the only bread winners in the family.
She knows the private sector have been consistently laying off workers as businesses close down or Companies downsize over the last 10 years.Consistently so.
Mia knows there are thousands of Secondary school Leavers,University Graduates – searching for work and can’t get none;
Mia knows there are already thousands of Jamaicans and Guyanese already here just picking fares,or working at gas stations or for low wages on the limited construction projects
Mia knows all bout that – yet she and Commisung went at the CARICOM Heads meeting and pushed to remove all restrictions on any one from the CARICOM region – to come here and work without work permits – people like barbers,nail technicians,hairdressers,baby sitters – shyte I feel that she might have secretly agreed to the fare pickers and all being allowed to come in – requiring no work permit.
Wunna feel we got a shortage of barbers,nail technicians,hairdressers,maids etc
And wunna brassbowls telling me Mia Cares .
Look get to #@ out muh face do.
@ T.Inniss,
In 2007 the BLP government published a consultative document on immigration. Whatever happened to that?
Hal
It went into file 13 I suppose.
So much for promises.
Or perhaps they were dealing with Thompson’s illness and then death at the time which shook the MPs to the core.
@Bush Tea January 1, 2019 12:46 AM “How can the university mandate where a student must live?
This sounds like an unusual arrangement. What if accommodation is available across the road at half the cost of Coverley?”
Exactly.
This mandatory thing seems very Bajan to me.
We Bajans too love to try to compel others.
A society born in the sin and crime of slavery. A society where compulsion became normalised.
In my extensive experience I have know a student move to another country in September, and married one of that country’s nationals by December. A genuine marriage, still going good more than 15 years later.
How to we prevent young people from falling in love? Is there an immunization for that?
A sibling also married their beloved 4 weeks after meeting. They will celebrate their 50th anniversary in 2020.
If we think that none of these Ross students will marry into the Bajan community we are so wrong.
In the 1960’s didn’t it happen that virtually every Bajan who went to Mona came back with a Jamaican spouse?
The heart wants what it wants.
Since I turned 18 nobody has been able to tell me where to live. I change houses, I change parishes, I change regions, I change countries. i change hemispheres.
MANDATE?
What is that?
Interesting times in Barbados. Thanks for keeping me abreast of the situation. I had a feeling Mia was as bad as any of them. GP said he was a cousin of hers? Don’t you have a direct line in?
I’m intrigued about this Ross move. Perhaps some deeper investigative reporting can uncover the details. Agreed on Baloney Maloney- he’s got a stick up his arse and the coverley development is a scam. Saw a few of the models and felt so bad for the poor folks that had bought already a few years back. It was looking like a dying american strip mall with cookie cutter homes. Massive payout for Maloney, just massive. I wonder if Mia gets a kick back. Is Ross paying any import duties or tariffs? Are student visa fees waived? If they are bringing tens of millions of dollars of equipment ?
@Giggles,
The big question is where do the students pay their university fees, in Barbados or the US?
I think we can bet adtellem/ devry is finding a way to ensure they pay no taxes on any portion of tuition recognized received in Barbados./ I’d bet none is collected locally. Payoffs result in differential treatment. Massive payroll tax reductions for faculty as well I KNOW. This means the higher wage workers don’t cost Devry much more than the salary. Thats supposed to be a key contributor
(Atlanta, Ga.)— DeVry Education Group, parent of Dominica based medical school Ross
University and St. Maarten based American University of the Caribbean (AUC), presently finds
itself in the cross hairs of an ethical practices investigation once again.
International Educational Management Resources, LLC, parent company of St. Maarten
based American University of Integrative Sciences has solicited authorities in three countries to
investigate the practices of Ross, AUC and parent DeVry under the U.S. Foreign Corrupt Practices
Act of 1977, (FCPA).
The FCPA is a body of U.S. federal law that provides oversight and prosecution of the
unlawful bribing of foreign government officials. Specifically, making it unlawful for certain
classes of persons and entities to make payments to foreign government officials to assist in
obtaining or retaining business. The act also has language that prohibits the collusion with other
foreign entities.
The complaint alleges that DeVry, through its subsidiary entities Ross and AUC has
unlawfully used political influence with foreign officials in Dominica and St. Maarten to willfully
disrupt and effectively interfere with the business operations of its smaller on island competitors.
“We are disappointed by the wholesale corruption evident in our understanding of what
has taken place here in St. Maarten with AUC and persons in government positions of public trust,”
said Milo Pinckney, CEO of IEMR. “The damage done to our business is overshadowed by the
damage done to more than 500 AUIS students who are adversely impacted by these actions. The
good people of St. Maarten are denied the associated revenue in favor of some personal gains,
realized by a small group of ethically-compromised public servants.”
The one and a half year-long investigation and resulting complaint alleges participation in
the scheme and promises to name St. Maarten Ministers, MP’s, Department of Education
employees, Tax office, and Immigration personnel in addition to members of AUC and DeVry
leadership.
The AUIS president provided her reaction to this investigation.
“It’s been very hard to accept that fellow educators could behave like this,” said Dr Renu
Agnihotri. “What we have come to learn is that these, and other equally deplorable practices, are
common to this group. “We have been told that All Saint’s University, who has a shared presence
with DeVry educations Ross University on Dominica, experienced similar disruptive practices
while co-existing on Dominica.”
Excerpted from a lecture on The International Entrepreneur, delivered by Pinckney, “As
an American business person and guest in a foreign land, we represent not only our entity, but that
of a symbol of American global enterprise. As such we have to assume the position of
responsibility to present an elevated ethical standard of business practices.”
When asked about that speech Pinckney responded, “It would appear that no DeVry
personal were in attendance when I delivered that speech”
He went on to say that DeVry has a history of questionable practices. “All you have to do
is google their name and you will find a litany of moral and ethical infractions that define them as
an entity.”
Following Pinckney’s claim the following articles were found — which begs the question
of what screening or vetting processes are being implemented to protect the names and reputations
of the host island of these Caribbean medical schools:
A January 27, 2016 article headline in the Huffington Post, “Fed’s Sue DeVry University,
Alleging For-Profit College Misled Students. The article says the US Federal Trade Commission
sued, claiming that DeVry knowingly gave false career and earnings numbers to prospective
students as an inducement to enroll in DeVry programs.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/feds-sue-devry-university_us_56a904c7e4b0f7179928af63
Excerpted from http://www.ed.gov website article Oct. 13, 2016 The U.S. Department of
Education announced a settlement agreement with DeVry University, a subsidiary of DeVry
Education Group Inc., resolving the Department’s charge that the institution used
unsubstantiated job placement claims in recruitment and advertising materials.
This settlement further enhances the Department’s oversight of DeVry and builds upon the
Obama Administration’s commitment to protecting students, safeguarding taxpayer dollars and
increasing accountability among postsecondary institutions.
“Students deserve accurate information about where to invest their time and money, and
the law is simple and clear: recruitment claims must be backed up by hard data,” said U.S.
Secretary of Education John B. King Jr. http://www.ed.gov/news/press-releases/us-departmenteducation-reaches-settlement-devry-university-over-job-placement-claims
An article on Yahoo finance indicated that the FTC accused DeVry of including businessadministration graduates who found retail jobs like waiting tables or selling cars as having found
work in their field.
Officials say those tactics helped fuel a surge in for-profit school enrollment in the past
two decades — particularly among poor and vulnerable Americans. That surge helped drive up
student debt that many are struggling to pay back, officials say. The DeVry lawsuit is part of an
effort by federal and state officials to root out what they characterize as willful, deliberately
aggressive and deceptive recruiting strategies by for-profit colleges such as DeVry.
These articles, and others like them, chronical a history of questionable professional ethics,
according to one source.
“Misleading advertising, fraudulent graduate earnings claims and alike seem to be a
standard operating procedures of for profit education companies like DeVry,” said Pinckney. “The
practices of these companies demonstrate a cavalier contempt for their clients, their competitors,
the very host islands that grant them guest privileges, preferred tax concession and the ability to
operate; as well as the many different groups of people who are directly and indirectly damaged
by their greed motivated behavioral practices.”
Students interviewed at AUC and Ross said that their schools have systems where they
systematically encourage students to transfer to other schools, fail out, or deliberately delay a large
number of students through course requirement schemes that result in students repeating course
work — not because of the student’s academic performance, but because the schools don’t have
sufficient numbers of clinical clerkship spots for the corresponding number of students about to
matriculate into the clinical phase of their education.
Another scheme uncovered centers around Ross and AUC student US Medical Licensing
Examination qualifying examination statistics. Students report that their school has
misrepresented their students’ performance on the USMLE in an effort to stimulate enrollment.
Students who fail to pass the qualifying examination the first time are encouraged to transfer to
other schools, enabling the DeVry schools to publish more elevated first time passing rates.
A February 2016 article indicated that “America’s for-profit colleges produce a
disproportionately high number of graduates who end up with student debt they can’t repay.”
In that article, it named DeVry and Apollo Education Group, another large U.S. for-profit
education company, as having a disproportionate amount of U.S. tax payer education funding
dollars routed to for profit educators, often to the detriment of the students, according to a 2015
Brookings report.”
Between 2000 and 2014, the number of student loan borrowers doubled to 42 million and
their total debt quadrupled to over $1 trillion, according to the report. Meanwhile, the debt owed
by graduates of for-profit colleges grew from $39 billion in 2000 to $229 billion in 2014 —
largely due to increases in rates of borrowing, the report found. DeVry University students
accumulated more than $8 billion in outstanding federal student debt through last year — the
fourth-biggest sum among U.S. colleges and universities, according to the report.
The September 16, 2013 headline on Bloomberg Markets reads “DeVry Lures Medical
School Rejects as Taxpayers Fund Debt”.
According to one AUIS official, the depiction of a medical school reject is truly unfair.
“A more accurate depiction would read more like greed, graft and corruption tanks the
future of the unsuspecting future doctors,” said Pinckney
The story follows AUC student David Adams, a 31 year old father of two who packed up
his family and moved to Dutch St. Maarten to pursue his dream of becoming a physician. Adams,
after financing his first two semesters with $67,000 in U.S. government-backed loans, expected to
leave medical school with as much as $400,000 in debt — and about a 20 percent chance of never
practicing as a physician in the U.S.
The article discusses DeVry, which has two for-profit medical schools in the Caribbean,
Ross & AUC who are accepting hundreds of students who were rejected by U.S. medical colleges.
These students amass more debt than their U.S. counterparts — a median of $253,072 in June 2012
at AUC versus $170,000 for 2012 graduates of U.S. medical schools.
And, that gap is even greater because the U.S. figure, compiled by the Association of
American Medical Colleges, includes student debt incurred for undergraduate or other degrees,
while the DeVry number is only federal medical school loans.
The average attrition rate at U.S. medical schools was less than four percent, according to
a 2007 Analysis In Brief report by the Association of American Medical Colleges. DeVry says its
rate ranges from 20 to 27 percent, which indicates many DeVry students quit, taking their debt
with them.
Of those who remained, 66 percent of AUC students and 52 percent of students at DeVry’s
other Caribbean medical school, Ross University School of Medicine, finished their program —
typically two years of sciences followed by two years of clinical rotations — on time in the
academic year ended on June 30, 2012.
The details of David’s story can be found at,
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-09-10/devry-lures-medical-school-rejects-astaxpayers-fund-debt
DeVry maintains a solid relationship with controversy, it seem, as a history of
consistently questionable behavior dates back to the 90’s. “The most recent claims appear to
warrant further investigation”, an AUIS administrative official said.
• In 1995, DeVry was suspended from Ontario’s student loan program OSAP after a
large number of its students misreported their income. DeVry was reinstated after paying fines of
approximately $1.7 million and putting up a bond of an estimated $2 million.
• In November 2000, Afshin Zarinebaf, Ali Mousavi, and another graduate of one of
DeVry University’s Chicago-area campuses filed a class-action lawsuit accusing DeVry of
widespread deception, unlawful business practices, and false advertising and alleging that students
were not being prepared for high-tech jobs.
• In 2001, DeVry became the first for-profit school to obtain permission from the
Alberta government to grant degrees, on recommendation by the Private Colleges Accreditation
Board. This decision was opposed by the Alberta New Democratic Party (sitting in opposition),
the Canadian Federation of Students, and the Canadian Association of University Teachers. The
NDP claimed conflict of interest as an executive at DeVry served as both the president of DeVry’s
Calgary campus and as a member of the Premier of Alberta’s special advisory council on
postsecondary education.
• In April 2007, the State of New York settled with three schools that were
participating in questionable student-loan practices. DeVry, Career Education Corporation, and
Washington University in St. Louis were involved with the settlement. DeVry agreed to refund
$88,122 to students.
• In January 2013, a lawsuit filed by a former manager at DeVry alleged that the
college bribed students for positive performance reviews and worked around federal regulations
on for-profit colleges.
• In April 2013, the attorneys general of Illinois and Massachusetts issued subpoenas
to DeVry to investigate for violations of federal law and filing false information about loans,
grants, and guarantees.
• In July 2014, DeVry stated that the New York state attorney general’s office was
investigating if the company’s marketing violated laws against false advertising.
• 2016 Two state attorneys general, Illinois and Massachusetts, are investigating
DeVry.
• On January 27, 2016, the Federal Trade Commission filed suit against DeVry,
alleging that DeVry’s advertisements deceived consumers about the likelihood that students would
find jobs in their fields of study, and would earn more than those graduating with bachelor’s
degrees from other colleges or universities.
• In 2016, Devry was also reprimanded by the Veterans administration over
allegations about deceptive marketing.
“Why is this happening, would be the obvious question,” Pinckney said. “The answer is
painfully clear. Greed!”
For-profit institutions such as DeVry operate as business machines, churning revenue in
search of profits, said Pinckney. They are beholding to shareholder’s equity, and governed by a
corporate organizational structure, that sells education as a traded product. With profit being the
only incentive, DeVry and schools like it must find ways to attract students to enroll, spending
large amounts of their total revenue on sales and marketing; regardless of whether or not accuracy
is a component of their claims.
DeVry is in fact one of the largest advertisers on google, spending more than $19 million,
according to http://www.wordstream.com/articles/google-earnings.
Acceptance rates are un-naturally high and tuition is about twice the cost as that of a similar
non-profit institutions, with only about 31.5 percent of students graduating versus 57 percent of
students at non-profit institutions.
Within the past year, DeVry University has been under investigation by the Attorney
General in both Illinois and Massachusetts. They’ve been named in numerous lawsuits in
California, and they’ve been heavily regulated by the presidential education administration. One
lawsuit claimed the campus leadership would bribe admissions counselors who exceed enrollment
quotas, which in turn would lead to instances of “over-promising and under-delivering” to current
and potential students.
Many students that attend for-profit institutions such as DeVry get training, but often fail
to realize employment. Many of these student accumulate a significant student loan obligation they
can’t ever hope to afford to repay. And, because DeVry is a publicly traded corporation, the
pressure is on for them to make a profit and return an ROI to their shareholders, which is another
reason tuition is so costly.
Adding to that cost is the salary for the leaders in the company. DeVry University President
Daniel Hamburger earned $6.4 million in 2012. In contrast, the president at Harvard University
earned about $900,000 –she is one of only four presidents at public universities to earn such a high
salary.
On every thread the foolish Dems criticizing Mia and Mia dissing all ‘o dem all the time.I’m sure Mia busy running the country making Barbados safe and solvent again.#30luvinwunnatail.
@ Gabriel
And on every thread, pooch lickers like you continue to obscurate the issue at point with this Stoopid retort about 30 love in wunna backside WHILE MUGABE DEPLOYS THE CLASSIC DESPOT MANOEUVRE AND DEPLOYS HER BROWN SHIRT PEOPLES AND MAKE HER POL POT MOVES BY CHANGING THE LAWS AND THE CONSTITUTION
WHILE PEOPLE LIKE YOU ENCOURAGE THE POPULATION TO SAY “baaaaaa…”
ALL HAIL MUGABE!!!
THANK YOU,THANK YOU,THANK YOU – BLOGGER – ‘ARTICLE TO SHARE’
That info is soooooooo helpful.
First of all it helps us to understand the backraising done by Mia and Ross University with the Dominica Government.
Secondly I want to refresh the memory of thinking Barbadians about the construction of the Dodds Prison scandal – and the Corrupt Company – VECO – who had no experience in building prisons – and who almost all of the principals in that Company were sent to jail in America for giving bribes to politicians as a reward for getting contracts.
I want to also remind you of the Company 3 S – under a different name I think – whose Brazalian Company directors were found guilty of bribing politicians of foreign governments – in the award of contracts – and who were allowed to start construction of the Highway Extension Project here in Barbados without a written contract being in place.
Who was the government in place – Owen Arthur administration of which Mia Mottley was a senior cabinet minister – and Gline Clarke was the line minister.
These are just 3 quick examples of corrupt Companies and the Barbados Labour party – of which Mia Mottley figures prominently in 2 of them.
Do you know a Dog that like to suck eggs could always sniff out where the eggs are hidden ?
So you see why these overseas Companies always re-surface when the BLP is in power.
Do you now understand why it will not be reasonable to only go back to the last 10 years looking for corruption – but you have to go back from 1994 when the previous BLP Adminstration come in.
That is why when Mia and dale holding press conferences and piss parading with a heap of files chanting – corruption,corruption,corruption – they sound hollow as brassbowl.
Who more corrupt than them ? Steupse
There were some corrupt ministers in the last Dems administration – no doubt about it – but there were far fewer cabinet members in the last government who were involved in graft – than there were in the last BLP Administration 1994 -2008
And some who are still there in this new BLP administration.
So who will bell the cat huh – answer that for me please.
Waru muh Girl
No wonder Enuff wanted to shut you up with your bombshells – on the questionable practices of Ross University with its parent Company DeVry.
That is until Bush Tea had to let him know – that you were on the right trail.
30 ministers in cabinet and not a single one was able to carry out the work of Article to share.
re T.Inniss January 3, 2019 7:53 AM
THANK YOU,THANK YOU,THANK YOU – BLOGGER – ‘ARTICLE TO SHARE’
That info is soooooooo helpful.
First of all it helps us to understand the backraising done by Mia and Ross University with the Dominica Government.
PLEASE KINDLY EXPLAIN HOW DOES THE ARTICLE POSTED BY PICKNEY EXPLAIN ANYTHING?
PICKNEY IS COMPLAINING THAT HIS ASSOCIATES BOUGHT ST EUSTATIUS MED SCHOOL, RENAMED IT AND REMOVED IT ST MAARTEN WHERE HE EXPERIENCED SEVERE COMPETITION IN PROBABLE UNETHICAL WAYS BY THE DEVRY OWNED AUC- WELL ESTABLISHED IN ST MAARTEN FOR YEARS
PICKNEY IS FURTHER COMPLAINING THAT NOW, HAVING MOVED HIS MEDICAL SCHOOL TO BARBADOS THE DEVRY OWNED ROSS IS AGAIN SET TO SQUEEZE HIS BALLS JUST AS THEY DID TO ALL SAINTS IN DOMINICA
THAT IS HIS PRIMARY MOTIVE FOR POSTING THIS ARTICLE
HOWEVER, IT IS VERY APPARENT THAT THEIR IS MORE IN THE MORTAR THAN THE PESSLE. I WILL LEAVE YOU ALL TO WORK IT OUT, BUT IT SEEMS VERY CLEAR TO ME THAT AS SET UP ONLY A FEW “HIGH UPS” WILL BE BENEFITTING AND HAVE ALL READY BENEFITTED FROM THIS MOVE OF ROSS TO BIM.
THERE IS A LOT OF CORRUPTION GOING ON…MUCH MORE THAN TO BE EXPECTED
GP
I don’t care squat about the pickney motive of who will eat the pie.
My relief was in the information which was inadvertently or deliberately exposed – which confirmed some of the things others on this blog were hinting at;
And they type of Company like DeVry or Ross University – which helps to clarify for those who needed help – the type if business that Mottley has a pattern getting in bed with – which speaks to the lack of a moral compass – and comes frontally to the essential principle of ‘Ethical Leadership’.
That’s all.
GP
Not sure if I wished you blessings in 2019 to you and your family.
If there are American students, since the company is an American Company they should complain to their Embassy.
According to the Embassy’s website “The mission of the United States Embassy is to advance the interests of the United States, and to serve and protect U.S. citizens in Barbados.”
For routine inquiries, call 1-246-227-4193 between the hours of 2 p.m. and 4 p.m., Monday through Friday (excluding U.S. and Barbados holidays). You may also send us an email at BridgetownACS@state.gov or reach us by fax at 1-246-431-0179.
Mail:
U.S. Embassy Barbados
American Citizen Services
Wildey Business Park
Wildey, St. Michael
Barbados
Grenville Phillips wrote ” 4 persons, who must each pay approximately US$1,000 per month in rent. What???”
That is $8000 Barbados dollars per month.
I will leave it to others because if I wrote what I think I could get extradited from Canada.
I am here looking at what students pay for housing in the United States. In Hyde park New York, 1 3/4 hours from Manhattan student housing can be had for as little as $650 USD per month
https://www.places4students.com/Places/PropertyListings?SchoolID=DFiWX3qYyow%3d
And near to Northwestern University at Evaston/Chicago, Illinois as low as $550 USD
https://www.places4students.com/Places/PropertyListings?SchoolID=NVsZANgxV9E%3d
I’ve used this site to help a few youngsters going north find a place to live. In each case adult friends living nearby scouted the place in person. The youngsters all found decent places to live for less than $1,000 BDS per month
You must remember, they are not only students…. they are tourists..
Wuhloss
Murdah
Alice in wonderlad
I know a place right now. 3 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, large yard, solar water heating, screened, refurbished in 2018. Can comfortably house 3. One bus to LESC, less than $1,000 BDS per month.
Whats going on down there now? I heard that school at the old codrington college seminary opened up? Any word on students? And Ross, they are open now what are changes on island?
The American International School of Medicine (AISM) – A Lucrative International Scam
I’m not sure where you’re from or how Dr. Wilkinson’s lying sweet tongue located you, but AISM has ruined the lives of many current and prospective medical students from Massachusetts to Mumbai. It’s an international scam. The school, and it’s owner, is a fraud. Plain and simple. The deceiver-in-chief — Dr Colin Wilkinson — is a skilled people person…like all exceptional con men I’ve ever heard of and read about. He has documents, names, examples, anecdotes, board exams statistics, and everything a desperate student needs to hear to feel enticed.
He’s actually brilliant. He conceives methods of making people feel at home and has an answer for every question you’re likely to have. I believe this skill was honed from his many years of scamming students and their families from all over the world. Every good thing you read or hear about him is probably true. Every negative thing you read or hear about him is probably mild compared to his true nature. That’s been my experience. Additionally, he always asks for tuition upfront. He even offers a payment plan for those who are unable to fork over the entire sum upfront. To make the scam more potent he drops the tuition total and makes it seem as though he’s heaven’s best gift to humanity. Sorry, he isn’t.
Then come the promises, but first the main requirement for your admission. Basic sciences are to be completed in Georgetown, Guyana. It took me a while to realise that this is a requirement because he can’t get away with this scam in the US. After the basic sciences, clinical rotations are to be completed in your choice of either the Caribbean, the USA, the UK, or Canada. I mean, who wouldn’t want that!? That’s where he hooks you real good. Next comes the visa assistance. You actually don’t need it. A Guyana visa is one of the easiest in the world to acquire, and it’s very cheap compared to those of many other countries.
After you’re hooked, you arrive Guyana and are stunned at the meagre accommodation that’s the entire school. It’s one residential one-storey building, with just a handful of rooms transformed for use as classrooms and a library. The address? The intersection of 89 Sandy Babb and Middleton Streets, in Kitty, Georgetown, the capital of Guyana. They explain that they’ve already acquired land and will begin building soon. He shows you the plans and land deeds as proof. Your initial misgivings and reservations begin to melt away. Then, lectures begin and you’re all in again.
A couple of the teachers were phenomenal when I was there. The now-deceased Dr Ovid Isaacs was one such physician/lecturer. Anyone who took pharmacology and genetics from him will attest to his genius. He was practically the only pre-clinical lecturer who undoubtedly knew his stuff and knew a lot about the USMLE. Everyone else was an imposter or had no USMLE experience at all. USMLE prep consisted of Dr Wilkinson apparently sending a bunch of past questions from a q-bank no doubt, which were printed out and disseminated to all the students.
Then, the clinical rotations come along and you’re trying to prepare for the USMLE Step I that’ll never happen because the school has no proper access to clinical rotation sites. You begin to ask questions and realise that no answers are forthcoming. Dr Wilkinson and his mercenaries become scarce. No emails are returned, neither are any phone calls. Frustration sets in and dreams begin to be derailed. You begin to postpone the board exams and begin to seek clinical rotation alternatives. I searched everywhere. No luck.
At this point, more promises might come as they did for me and my colleagues. As a result of my multiple US visa applications being declined and a ban from entering the US in place due to my overstay in the US prior to my move to Guyana caused by AISM and their lies, my colleagues and I who were in the exact same situation were offered rotation spots at the University of the West Indies (UWI), Jamaica by none other than Dr Wilkinson. He told us they’d signed an MoU. All that was required was for us to apply for our Jamaica visas and move there for our clinical rotations. Mind you, this is a reputable institution that was widely regarded as the best regional university in the Caribbean. We were ecstatic. After the promises were made and Dr Wilkinson slithered back to his US base, I called UWI and spoke to the person in charge of setting up rotations. She had never heard of him nor had she heard of AISM. We were devastated yet again.
We were stranded: no visas, no clinical rotations, no tuition reimbursement, no phone calls or emails answered, etc. We had to find our way out. It was easy. Nobody cared. After years of leaving Guyana and returning home, there’s been no phone call, no email or any form of communication from AISM inquiring about my whereabouts. More importantly, no apology. Thankfully, I didn’t pay the entire tuition. I couldn’t afford to at the time, anyway. He plays the long con game. He’s patient. He’s accommodating. He’s a brilliant motivator. Dr Colin Wilkinson is a charmer.
Years later, I’ve received emails threatening to send my unpaid tuition to a collections agency if I don’t pony up the remainder, over USD50K apparently. I’ve ignored them totally. I’m sure I’ll still receive them again in the future when next they’re strapped for cash. I’ll still ignore them. There’s no mention of how Dr Wilkinson and AISM ruined my life and those of dozens of my colleagues on their website and on these other forums. For every single student who makes it through AISM, there’s a dozen who were scammed out of tens of thousands of dollars…maybe more.
Anyone looking for a school like AISM is looking for the wrong school. I’m sure AISM isn’t the only fraudulent excuse of an institution out there. So, what to do!? Run! Run as fast and as far as your legs can carry you and then some more. Dr Wilkinson was cheating on his wife in Guyana with at least one person I knew. They fell out and she went to tattle tell on him and his illegal operation at the US Embassy in Guyana, which is in part why we never got our visas. But he’s a US citizen and it wasn’t in the interest (apparently) of the US Embassy to pursue any disciplinary action against him, so it didn’t affect him. We discovered this much later. Just a few months ago, a lady from India emailed me for the third time in about five years. Dr Wilkinson apparently attended a student recruitment conference there. When he got there he apparently convinced them that he’d left his wallet at home. He promised to send in his hotel room and conference participation payments and fees as soon as he returned to the US. He never did. They’ve been trying to recoup thousands of dollars he incurred in expenses during that trip. This is the Dr Wilkinson I’ve come to know over the years.
All my former classmates and I ended up leaving medicine entirely. That’s a lot of dreams squashed by the treachery and greed of one man. If I were suicidal, I would’ve killed myself at AISM. Thank God I didn’t. He wouldn’t have cared anyway and life would still go on. I’m only glad that I was able to quietly encourage some young people who were about to waste their futures there to leave. There was a guy who did the same more openly and Dr Wilkinson manipulated this caucasian lady into calling the students’ parents halfway around the world to accuse him of being a rapist. The guy almost went crazy. He left AISM a few months later. He told me a few months ago that he’s had no contact with AISM since he left in 2013 except for their tuition payment threats. He told me he threatened to get the FBI involved and never heard back from AISM. So, AISM and Dr Wilkinson are dangerous to your medical aspirations. Go at your own risk. You’ve been warned. Cheers!
Sure sounds familiar! Now who does this remind me of…. hmmmm….con man…… hmmmm
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/trump-university-scam/
Oh yeah! That’s who!
Dr. Shuba Balan is a graduate from IUHS’ program. I believe she attended the online program? She is currently licensed and practicing in Georgia at Morehouse. I have seen others.
I DID NOT POST THE ABOVE DAVID
@GP
Noted, looks like one of your friends from the Med website followed you over here. You should take note.
@ GP
Be careful. There are people on BU who just talk rubbish, but one or two are outright criminals. Be careful with your personal details.
I can give one example off a fraudster, but I do not want to give others ideas.
PLEASE EXPLAIN DAVID
MAYBE SOMEONE IS BEING SHORTCHANGED AS IS USUALLY THE CASE AND THEY CANT GET THEIR GROUSE POSTED ON VALUE MD SINCE VALUE MD BLOCKED THE LINK THERE ABOUT THE BU POSTS, SO THEY HAVE COME HERE
BUT THEY JUST NEED TO SET UP UNDER THEIR OWN NAME OR MONIKER AND SPEW THE BEANS
ID LOVE TO HEAR IT
BUT DONT POST AS GEORGIE PORGIE WHEN YOU ARE NOT
@GP
An Internet forum is an unwieldy place, people post comments for many reasons; some well intentioned, others malicious/mischievous. The usual MO for those going the malicious route is usually of the vindictive type. Some believe they were wronged by the target of their venom. Not dissimilar to what we often observe in this forum.
WELL I WISH THOSE WHO WERE WRONGED AS PREDICTED, WILL COME FORWARD AND GIVE US THE DETAILS OF THEIR GREIVANCE AND ALSO POST IT ON VALUE MD
JUST TELL THE TRUTH.
CALL YOUR SELF THE WEEPING CANE BLADE OR BEDLAM IN BELLEVILLE
Lancet study: More than 100 million people in India diabetic – BBC News
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-65852551
Aha @David, the point of that big headline does jump out!
I recall something which pegged India as surpassing China in the population sweepstakes … so that would put mother India around 1.5 BILLION people I imagine.
So fah sure 100 million diabetics is indeed a big, BIG deal that brings this matter into stark perspective so realistically for India and Bim we need to address it aggressively.
India do not have the widespread infrastructure across their vastness to deal with the prolonged issues and fah sure we really dont either despite our tiny size and much lower cases … thus the draconian measures being taken by this admin may be the firm ‘prick’ in the finger needed.
We will see … but yeah 100 million could lead to a lot of amputations and other dire medical situations … we cant say we haven’t been forewarned!
@Dee Word
India is one of those places where medical research is a priority, let us see if there will be a renewed focus on diabetes which is a scourge in our parts.
Source: Nation
I believe that the high incidence of diabetes among Indians is a function of something they put in their food.
It is like how there was veno-occlusive disease of the liver in the 50’s in Jamaica and probably elsewhere in other islands due to use certain alkaloids in ceresea bush that was used in tea and drinks.
I will say no more about this at this time. I will just let the jokers talk their rubbish first in response as they are wont to do.
All the Health Ministers can meet til kingdom come, it will not help, a bit. They are Biochemical illiterates. Biochemistry is the foundation of Nutrition and wellness.
Reducing importation of trans fats is a start, but they have to consider what trans fats are, how they are made, and if we are not making them ourselves
I have been talking for a while about preservatives.
For centuries nations use sugar or salt as the main preservatives for surplus of thier food.
Today we are using chemicals presumed to be safe because the body makes them in the body in the Kreb’s cycle. However, in that process those compounds are rapidly converted to one another or used as the starter molecules to start other metabolic pathways.
I believe, therefore, that when we take them in as preservatives that we are taking them in excess.
Barbados was once a decent nation…has become a backwater. Also- how the bloody hell are these indian and Pinckney schools still operating?
Source: Nation
@ David
This is the most mature and coherent analysis of the current medical malaise in Barbados that has been postulated in recent times.
Dr Alert clearly understands and has articulated what should be obvious to any post high school graduate, …BUT which seems to elude our so called leaders.
Of course Dr Alert would be familiar with the success of the resources-scarce Cuban medical system – which uses the approach that he suggest, and with fantastic results – not only in preventative care and advanced medicine, but ALSO in world class SPORTS RESULTS in a wide variety of sports.
But since the doc has a mind of his own, and would not kowtow to known political shiite hounds, we cannot expect to see his wisdom utilized anytime soon in Brassbados….
@Bush Tea
A lot of what he wrote has been shared on BU over the years. To be fair.
Boss, to your credit, practically EVERYTHING has been shared on BU over the years.
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Mostly brassbowlery has been DONE in Brassbados in almost every corresponding case…