Chairman of Goddards Enterprises Asserts His Innocence

[Barbados Underground]  Yes Jeff, Charles Herbert faces a monumental task, not least because he has already been convicted in the court of public opinion. The social meaning of the case has become about the history of race relations in Barbados, so although the court case is supposed to consider the evidence dispassionately, I am not certain that a jury will lack bias

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  • Whistleblower now I know you are full of shit, no deceased guy is walking into any courtroom. But to get back to your earlier comment about dirty dealings …I am sure it happens but we are talking about this case…do you have info that the court does not have …..feel free to throw Russia into it if you are just using your instincts

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    @ Greene

    I said from inception which were comments on BU in this case that Herbert would walk with things happening behind close doors.

    I have had local police tried to extort me AS A BUSINESSMAN FOR $$$THOUSANDS so I know what goes on behind closed doors.

    What was also telling for me was that after first walking out of Magistrates Court during first appearance Herbert did a recorded Press appearance in the Court yard talking about his innocence.

    THIS WAS HIGHLY UNUSUAL.

    Herbert had already spent 5 days with the drug squad Police so I knew from PERSONAL experience the fix was in.

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  • @ Greene,

    You are being hypothetical when you try to read the mind of the DPP for withdrawing the case. I am out of any further discussion on this matter.

    @m 9.52

    Sorry to have to agree with the hypocrite Hal but Barbados is indeed a “failed state”!(Quote)

    Plse explain.

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  • Barbados Underground Whistleblower

    @ Lawson

    Now I know you are an ass or a comedian..

    Charles Leacock former DPP was not deceased 10 years ago when the charges was withdrawn by him.

    He died within the last several years.

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  • Interesting the comment from the AG that businessmen making the accusations about bribery of public officials have declined to come forward to give statements.

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  • @Hal

    fair enough. i dont know what went on so yeah i am speculating to some extent based on how such matters normally progress. if you know for sure what happened i will withdraw.

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  • “do you have info that the court does not have ”

    Lawson…you as usual…do you see any evidence from the court or the DPPs office….which should have been MADE PUBLIC ans BOTH OF WHOM ARE NOTORIOUSLY CORRUPT…they COLLUDE WITH racists like Herbert…who never even wanted to see black people working in offices and insurance companies in Barbados in his lifetime …they help these DEMONS PERVERT THE COURSE OF JUSTICE…EVERY TIME..

    it is a pattern over 70 years old…

    the negros with titles STAY STUPID, CORRUPT AND SELL OUT.

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  • @David

    if you admit to bribing a public official would you come forward and implicate yourself without some type of immunity lol

    the AG is crazy to say that publicly

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  • @Pacha

    Besides the editorializing are you in possession of information related to this matter? Not the speculation we have been subjected to my many here.

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  • “@ Hal Austin
    I am talking about due process, not an investigation. To have a system in which the DPP, or any other prosecutorial lawyer, can walk in to court and say we are not continuing with this case, without explanation, will be perverse”

    Hal…the DPP has those powers to walk in a court room and stop a case, or free someone whether they are guilty or innocent….Charles Leacock did it all the time for the right price…that is why i keep saying the DPP has too much power to be corrupt…cause she is yet to charge Maloney…despite having evidence…but rushed off to free Herbert….THAT IS CORRUPTION..

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    Privilege makes people blind, and bigotry makes people stupid.

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  • Mueller is like the DPP!!

    However, even Mueller, had to let it go!!

    “Everybody” wanted a different outcome.

    … great minds and fools alike … especially fools!!

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  • quit following the swinging watch lol just answer the question do you have extra info or not pretty simple. If not…. its your opinion and opinion are like assholes everybody has got one. Heres mine …the cops have a reason for them going on the trip…they have a timeline …and they probably have info on access and opportunity .
    Well I hope he was alive when he withdrew the charges ….how do you tell your friends you were let off by the duppee of public prosecutions.

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  • @greene

    He is obviously covering his ass. If business people are bribing and scared to come forward why admit it? The statement is reminiscent of that time when former minister Sinckler claimed his life was threatened.

    The political class laughing at we.

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  • @David

    he probably thought he was going to get some political mileage with that but oh man. what a thing to say. the question is what will he do with that information? ask the police to investigate?

    what an asinine thing to say and he is my friend too.

    he has been talking a lot of nonsense lately

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  • @ peterlawrencethompson June 27, 2019 10:48 AM

    You know my cynicism. And it’s exhausting to play Charles Jong …

    Imagine if everyone here was constantly criticizing the government. Wouldn’t that be a bit monotonous? My task in this dialectical game is to create tension, turmoil and contradiction.

    If anyone else here could cheer the government, I’d be a little relieved. Before May 2018 we had A/C, after all. Not any more. Even Lorenzo has criticized the great prime minister here … You really can’t rely on anyone anymore.

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  • The deteriorating crime situation is creating pressure. We should not forget like Pacha has reminded we are reaping what was sowed years ago.

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  • PLT…this has nothing to do with BIGOTRY…this is about reality…had you spent your years in Barbados instead of outside…you would KNOW WHAT BIGOTRY LOOKS LIKE COMING FROM THE LIKES OF HERBERT…ya would have first hand knowledge, but since ya did not….well what can i say..ya just have to listen to what others have to say…

    And to get the BIGOTRY AGAINST BLACKS OUT OF BARBADOS…ya have to expose those who were nursed and raised on bigotry from the womb to the tomb…their entire lives the practiced bigotry when black people could not even UNDERSTAND WHAT BIGOTRY IS….and they have HAD lots of help from both governments practicing it on the majority population.

    ya see, some people don’t like when the tables turn on them….not one little bit…but are quick to convict black people….for everything…

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @WURA-WAR-on-U
    I know a number of evil White people who are absolutely delighted that Herbert is being pilloried. You see, they want Bajans to see everything in terms of race because then when the finger is pointed at their crimes they can pretend that the attacks are happening because they are White. Ironically, misinformed attacks on Herbert serve in this way strengthen White privilege.

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  • Hal..can’t remember if i posted the previous comment i had lined up, but to answer your question….the DPP has the power to walk into a court room and withdraw any charge from anyone whether they are guilty or innocent, it has been going on for far too long, .. the DPP has too much useless power to practice corruption…this is just an extension of those corrupt powers…most of her power needs to be taken away, i said that before she was given that title….because she is yet to use any of that power wisely

    this one is only continuing what Leacock started, can’t remember the other DPPs, never had interaction with any of the previous ones.

    A DPP who was not questionable…would have SHOWN THE PUBLIC THE EVIDENCE THAT CLEARED HERBERT…but they tend to forget their salaries come from the PUBLIC PURSE…most of them believe they work for criminal minorities…

    but it does not matter anyway, his ass is stained and tainted until he leaves this earth…has been that way for years, it’s only Bajans love to fool themselves..

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  • “Ironically, misinformed attacks on Herbert serve in this way strengthen White privilege.”

    actually, no it don’t …everyone knows Herbert…everyone also knows ..ALL THOSE WHITES and others, never forget the others, they are minorities, but also very dangerous…WHO ARE EVEN MORE CORRUPT AND CRIMINAL…all of them are now on someone’s RADAR…none of them will survive this unscathed…cause all of them have bribed ministers, bribed civil servants, run drugs and guns and people, destroyed the depressed areas with their criminality……and they are KNOWN…

    Herbert got away with a tarnished reputation…the others will not be that lucky..

    and the white privilege these criminal whites enjoy…comes from the BRIBED MINISTERS IN PARLIAMENT…the minute those frauds for useless black leaders are no more…WHITE PRIVILEGE IN BARBADOS DONE.

    why ya think Dale Whistlebower is SLOWLY BACKING AWAY FROM ARRESTING ANY OF THEM for bribery, corruption, money laundering, extortion, etc….they can call the name of EVERY MINISTER, LAWYER AND POLITICIAN THEY HAVE BRIBED OVER THE DECADES…..but we want them calling those names to international agencies…lol

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @WURA-WAR-on-U
    “A DPP who was not questionable…would have SHOWN THE PUBLIC THE EVIDENCE THAT CLEARED HERBERT…”
    +++++++++++++++
    Perhaps the same evidence is part of the case against the other accused. Then the DPP might not want to compromise that case by publishing the evidence at this point.

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  • David

    Again, you are opting for the same kind of BS. Those efforts are not dissimilar to those by the officials who conspired not to charge Charles Herbert.

    Do we not have enough observation to conclude that whether the criminal is Charles Herbert or other White people the systems of “law”, which you support, move heaven and earth to make sure White people never seem to receive the kind of justice Black poor people have to face daily.

    As a social scientist, observation and oral tradition etc are no less valid than other empirical data or the ‘evidence’ you seem to be seeking.

    Notwithstanding, we have evidence that Charles Herbert was/is an institutional racist. That he routinely paid White people vastly more than qualified and more experience Black people.

    Of course, we were telling you this same story back in the days when he, Charles Herbert, was your blue-eyed boy and that of Bushie, but you gave not an *uck then.

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  • Very true…but since Herbert was on bail anyway…why not present that evidence at the next hearing…without compromising the judicial process…which we know none of them care about anyway..cause if he is innocent…the evidence would apply to him only….cause she kept the charges for the other two….but we know how they operate, let’s see if that same evidence is now used to free the other one…at the next hearing..

    Just don’t get involved with any of them cause ya have no clue how these people operate…and they like when ya don’t know….easy fall guy…

    And as i said….they are ALL ON THE RADARS OF OTHER PEOPLE…

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  • @Pacha

    Observations will take us so far.

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  • David

    Jesus Christ man!

    A man was caught on a vessel transporting ‘tons’ of drugs to Barbados.

    For all we know it could have been the DEA with the intercepts etc who gave this case to the local police.

    Because they have not got the ability to apprehend the big drug barons.

    And hungry Bajans with their slavish mentalities are to find all kinds of justifications why this son of a bitch should not be in jail, forever!

    This is what your PLT once called ‘respectability’. But even he is willing to genuflect in the servile attempt to justify the unjustifiable.

    Bajans, especially the miseducated, really believe that rassouuuul White people do not belong in Dodds.

    David, you shall continue to reap what you have sown.

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  • This is happening under a prime minister Mugabe who is a real hardcore law and order brute.

    Heartless!

    She has no sympathy for poor people who offend the law but not a word when her government let slide a man who helped to put her in office.

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  • I ain’t know too much about law but my take on what I see is different to many here. To me it seems more of a class and power thing than a colour issue. Here is why a say that.

    Up to now not a single charge has been laid against either Donville or Parris locally. They are not white but they are seen as better off and with powerful connections. Further to charging Parris and taking up his house and big rides, the tax payers ended up having to bail out those affected. If you recall even the money he had on the bank that was seized, was returned to him 3 days before elections by the DEMS.

    On the other end you have a poor man who only stole maybe a loaf of bread and some cornbeef through hunger, but he was ” loss way at dodds”.

    That is why to me it’s not so much a colour thing but a class and ” who you is” thing. This worries me more than the other option, because it means that ALL who have wealth and power will be dealt with differently by the system. It may not be racial prejudice therefore as much as it is financial prejudice.

    Just another view from the viewers gallery.

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  • “For all we know it could have been the DEA with the intercepts etc who gave this case to the local police.

    Because they have not got the ability to apprehend the big drug barons.”

    We done know that he nor the other one would even HAVE BEEN CHARGED on the island…..if an international agency had not been involved in some way….i said from the beginning, if the information came from one of those agencies, the police nor the government could not very well tell them………oh we don’t lock up white people in Barbados for drug trafficking and gunrunning and human trafficking and rapes of black women and children and corruption and thefts…we can’t do that, because we do it too….

    …oh no, they won’t dare be that freaking brazen…so they had to play this game…first…but just watch the next moves…

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  • @ John A

    Hope you are not falling in to the Parris bashing mode. Clico was a disaster; Clico was a regulatory catastrophe. We must be careful not to misinterpret gross financial regulatory incompetence as corruption.
    I have always said if this or any other government has evidence of criminal behaviour by Mr Parris he should be interviewed under caution, charged and face trial.
    I believe a lot of the smear, anger and hostility to Mr Parris has nothing to do with his performance at Clico (a legally incorporated company), but the fact that he did not go to Harrison College or any of the other leading schools.
    There is a belief by some of his critics that he was not formally educated at their level. The irony of this claim is that many of those critics, lawyers and university graduates, are semi-literate themselves. It is the pot calling the kettle black.
    We have now had over a year of a BLP government and, despite the hysterical claim by President Mottley within 48 hours of coming to power – waving lots of paper and breathing heavily, with her attorney general at her side – no charges have been brought against Mr Parris.
    We have had a judicial review which was a joke: no powers to subpoena witnesses or documents. Further, Sagicor is now being allowed to invest in the very illiquid assets that brought Clico to its knees.
    The more things change.

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  • @ Hal.

    No i don’t feel Parris should be bashed for not going to Harrison’s, I actually was glad to see him reach the level he did even against the odds. He was however the CEO of the company when ” strange things” went on and asserts were “misplaced”. We both know in the USA what would of happened to him had he been there under the same circumstances. Likewise the Donville issue was nuff ” fluff” and hot air locally and in the end what?

    Don’t get me wrong I am not saying the small man should be allowed to break the law, but from what I see the system falls on them the hardest. On the other side of the coin the “untouchables ” seem to walk around laughing at us all regardless of their skin colour!

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  • John…these two shithole black governments are nasty and RACIST AS HELL AGAINST THEIR OWN BLACK PEOPLE…..from the negros earn a title AFTER BEGGING FOR VOTES…from the same majority population…cause that is all politicians are VOTE BEGGARS…..they go from being employees of the same voters…to being their black tiefing massas..

    case in point…the African Ambassador and others who know of the paradigm shift…are calling Africans home…we are all descended from Africa…we are all Africans, i don’t know where Mia is getting her shite from, but it cannot compute….those in spiritual connection to the continent, some more powerfully connected than others…UNDERSTAND WHY…

    and we watched as the whole damn THING ESCAPED MIA…then we knew for sure that these are black racists and massas who have no connection whatever to Mother Africa, their spiritual connection was rightfully SEVERED…

    ….and she not only tried to UPSTAGE THE AFRICAN AMBASSADOR…instead of working with her, she used the info she had and which she NEVER SHARED with black bajans…to try to SABOTAGE any efforts…for her own benefit..

    …..there was the Canada cockup, the UK cockup, well she bypassed NYC cause New Yorkers of any stripe just don’t fcuk around and she knows it..

    Then we heard all the rara about Rwanda and then the Ghanaian president got an invite and in true bait and switch style…she ran off to Morocco a slave trader country, most of whom look nothing like the majority population in Barbados and that includes Mia….she don’t care that they are known as dessert rats of the worst variety, but their skins are not black like hers and they got the inferior quality curly or silky straight hair that attracts the slaveminded……but there ya have it…until it blew up on her and she ended up with a human trafficking label…then she had to back off real quick from supporting the self proclaimed SADR bullshit…another cockup…

    these beasts in parliament are black racists and massas, but against their own people…and that is what the minority criminal racists….take full advantage of, because they got protection from both dirty governments..for the last 70 + years…

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    Good heavens @ John A ….finally!

    I waded through ALL the chats – some very instructive – and finally u banged the nail!

    The white thing is more red herring than anything else… None of the strident Black progressives here want to call it as u did and “As It Is* …as Gil Noble would assert on TV!

    Of course it’s a CLASS thing … ANY big wig Black man in Herbert’s situation (context of the drug haul and his nexus to it) would have been handled much the same.

    That does not deny the white privilege issues in Bim but as you cited what happened to Parris or Inniss or those of the Pele case or the police shootings (heading down towards Kensington) eons ago!

    Let’s recognize CLASS privilege!

    Lata.

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  • Look..I dislike the fact that the names of slave masters still exist on at least 3 learning institutions for children on the island…but let’s be realistic…

    Parris did not have to have anything more than a 5th grade education to do what he did…he did not have to attend any of the slave master named schools on the island either…unlike those with their degrees in this and that and the other and their titles in bullshit…….BUT PARRIS OWNED EACH AND EVERYONE OF THEM ANYWAY…still does…lol

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  • @ de

    That therefore sends a terrible message to the youth regardless of colour who may be poor. What we are saying is we are placing an X on their back just as a result of where they may live or were born.

    I have a serious problem with that! What are you doing is slamming the door in the face of people who may be able to better themselves and their families, simply because of their address and financial lot in life.

    So you are saying if 2 people apply for a job with one being from Deacons Farm and the other from the Heights, the job should go to the one from the Heights. How then is the guy from Deacons who may be a harder worker, ever going to get a chance to better himself?

    This really infuriates me as you can probably notice!

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  • @ John A

    You are seeing part of the problem. If the allegations of criminality against Mr Parris and Clico are true, then it is incumbent on the state to take action. I say they have not because they are incompetent, grossly incompetent.
    Over ten years after the global banking crisis look at the way the bank and insurance regulators are operating in Barbados. Look at how some banks rip off account holders through over charging etc without a word from the regulator; look at Sagicor’s investment policies, investing in the same illiquid assets as Clico, while a dumb regulator stands by; look at how this government grabbed people’s money by defaulting on their obligations. If there is a case against Mr Parris, then bring a case, or shut up.
    The reality is that some institutions in Barbados are frightfully incompetent but it is easier to blame corruption, since it means individual or institutional competence is never questioned; Barbados is a failed state..

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  • @Hal

    Then the question is who is the biggest criminal, the person that takes advantage of a poorly policed system, or the regulators who look the other way when it occurs?

    In the case of Clico an order was placed to stop underwriting certain policies, they went on doing it and what was done to them? Not one RH as David would say!

    The Town Planner places a cease order on the building of a warehouse by the flour mill, the building continues and still stands today. So do we blame the individual who exploited the ” hot air” from the Town Planner, or do we blame The Town Planner for not pushing it down?

    I see why you refer to us as a failed state as it appears that nothing seems to work as it should.

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  • @ John A

    The regulators are not looking the other way; they are incompetent. They do not have a clue. You are right that Clico was ordered not to sell certain policies and they continued to. A report was sent to the DPP’s office and no action took place. Put the blame where it ought to be. So too the town planning infringement. The building should have been demolished.
    The institutions of our democracy do not work; thus Barbados is a failed state.

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  • There must come a point where we Bajans recognise that we are a laughing stock – a country with over 95% African descendants and over 50 years of ‘independence’ still running an apartheid system in 2019 that discriminates against the majority. A country where there is no rule of law because the law cannot apply to rich white people. The thing is that every Bajan knew this was the way this case was going to go and many said so from day 1. Come on Barbados, it’s time for change.

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  • I will share with you all why this class thing annoys me so much and how dangerous it is for our people and by extension our country.

    A few year back I was doing a project and towards the end we needed a bit of help to finish it, so I asked the supervisor if he new any young fellow looking for a few weeks work. His reply was ” boss I know a fellow but he from de Farm.” I told him if he want work bring him. To cut a long story short this guy was an amazing worker. One night after a few of us worked late I said to the guys, let me drop you home. When I asked him where he lived he gave me a st Thomas address, which i found out later was a family members. After dropping the other guys off he was the last and I asked him why he told me he lived in st Thomas and not Deacons. He said ” boss if I did tell you deacons you might of tell me don’t come work Monday.” I told him then don’t ever see your self as less than you are or others will see you the same way.” Today he owns his own small business and tells me ” I tell my children what you told me years ago about how you see yourself others will see you. ”

    My point for sharing this is that this guy saw an opportunity and took it, but it could also of gone the other way had he not of and today he could be either on the block or in Dodds. He would admit this too you as he preaches it to his own kids.

    Today he has a home a business and is comfortable, but is he not the same guy who started out in ” De Farm”? If he was still in De Farm would he be less of a man than he now is?

    This class system and it’s privelages is the problem more than any thing related to skin colour. It’s just many don’t like to admit it as it would mean looking inwardly at how they see people.

    My lecture is now finished and I shall humbly now return to the viewers gallery.

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  • It’s a big, fat lie that only white people are privileged here.

    Why aren’t DLP ex-ministers charged in Barbados? I always thought these figures came from the black underclass.

    If I follow your reasoning, those former ministers would be Oreos, to use racist typology: Only black skin, but white in substance.

    This Oreo metaphor shows the whole schizophrenia of classifying people according to their sun protection. The former ministers are not protected from prosecution because they are secretly white, but because in Barbados you don’t touch politicians and shit on compliance.

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  • Barbados Underground Whistleblower

    For those of you who like to play smoke and mirrors or black vs white.

    I played 18 holes of golf with Charles Herbert many many times.

    I have had many conversations at the 19th Hole after a round and am very privileged to many conversations some with Charles Herbert present.

    It is no secret amongst us golfers what Charles Herbert has been involved in outside of his profession.

    There are many like Charles Herbert black, white and Indian who have vast resources acquired LEGALLY and ILLEGALLY.

    They have Police, Customs, Immigration, Political friends and other key people amongst their payroll and would stop at nothing to maintain Status Quo.

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  • So whistleblower are you saying he is not a racist or were you the caddy. But we are talking about this case what do you know more than the police

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  • @whistleblower

    have you ever bribed a public official? or put another way, contributed to the personal charity of a public official?

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  • Barbados Underground Whistleblower

    @ Lawson

    I have never called Charles Herbert a racist as he has a pleasant demeanour in public.

    Why don’t you do some caddying for me and clean my irons, hybrids, woods and driver?

    You wouldn’t be the first white man to do so.

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  • @ Hal

    Yes it is a combination of failed enforcement systems in total that favour the privelage regardless of colour, combined with a society that values people based on their foreseen social and economic class that is our downfall.

    My friend from Deacons is a perfect example of how a good man could be deemed worthless simply because of his origin and financial class at the start of his life.

    If you look at certain ” clubs ” for instance you see all colours there but what is the one common denominator? It is foreseen class and social standing, don’t mind some may break as ass and living off 3 credit cards!

    Have you ever heard it is not the idea that is suggested that guarantees its adoption but who suggested it instead?

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  • @ John A June 27, 2019 2:34 PM
    “No i don’t feel Parris should be bashed for not going to Harrison’s, I actually was glad to see him reach the level he did even against the odds. He was however the CEO of the company when ” strange things” went on and asserts were “misplaced”. We both know in the USA what would of happened to him had he been there under the same circumstances. Likewise the Donville issue was nuff ” fluff” and hot air locally and in the end what?”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Don’t you think it’s a very good thing he didn’t go to HC or Lodge?

    If he had gone to HC like his peers involved in ‘big white-collar’ crime in Barbados isn’t it possible that he could have been outed and outsmarted by the strategically-appointed CLICO Board members like Basil Springer, Haynes and Tony Marshall?

    The man graduated from the University of Life while receiving his training in the cane-pieces in Lemon Arbor to become one of the most controversially renown sons of the soil of St. John.

    Under the rearguard tutelage of Lawrence Duprey- himself a graduate from the business school of Ponzi- the ‘batty’ boy from St. John was able to trick 3 sequential prime ministers of Barbados and have them all in his rear pockets.

    That dalit of the Bajan Ponzi circle has dirt- both morally and financially- on virtually every politician in Barbados and the Eastern Caribbean.

    Who do you think contributed most financially to the pomp, pageantry and vote buying circus performances over the last 25 or so years in the Bajan electoral theatre?

    Why do you think Leroi Greenverbs Parris is titled the King of Lepers in the Bajan society?

    The man of pure verbal bullshit is totally Untouchable!

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  • @ M

    So true but it proves one thing. Regardless of colour, once corruption reaches a certain level in the society he or she, basically becomes as I said in an earlier post ” untouchable”. You then are protected by the powerful you “favoured ” along the way. That sir applies to whether you went to Harrison College or Brumlee.

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  • Barbados Underground Whistleblower

    @ Greene

    Let me put it this way in Barbados it is par for the course and accepted norm in the Business community across all races.

    I’ll give you a few examples I reported a major burglary at a business place and assisted the police in catching those involved whilst recovering 90% of the goods worth a lot of money.

    Basically I did the investigation and handed over the information to the Detective in charged of the matter.

    The next day those involved were brought to the Station.

    The Sargeant Detective asked me what I am going to give him and his boys who did the recovery of %90 of the items.

    I asked him to be specific he told me $1000 and I should keep it between the two of us.

    I said I would return the next day and let him know of my decision.

    Upon arrival the following day the Station Sargeant whom I knew from childhood asked to step into his office as he wanted a private word.

    I was then told that one of the items recovered worth $ several hundred he liked and asked if he could have it with no money passing hands.

    You can speculate the two outcomes.

    Another incident when I reported a matter to a different police station for a bounched check for over $7000 and was offered for sale a taser stun gun and pepper spray for $1500 by a uniform policeman.

    With the further offer of guns sold by him and other associates in the Police.

    The Taser stun gun I handed over to a prominent lawyer to show how rife the corruption is in the Barbados Police force.

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  • The lesson seems to be from our discussion today that if you going “thief then thief big” and share the sweets with the right people along the way. If you do that the only time you will see Dodds is if you pass by in you Benz with the Windows up and AC on!

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  • @whistleblower

    i hope you have noted the names of those officers for future reference. ok now i get the personal level of your anti corruption campaign. why do you think those officers were so bold? do you think it is rife in the police or confined?

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  • Barbados Underground Whistleblower

    @ Greene

    I dealt with 5 different local Police Stations over a three year period after reporting varying matters.

    I experienced this type of behavior in 5 out of the 5 with those I interacted with.

    So you will have to draw your own conclusion.

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  • @John A

    Leroy Parris deserves the scrutiny he is getting. He is not innocent in the Clico mess.

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  • If there is a case against Mr Parris, then bring charges. If not STOP smearing the man.

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  • @ David

    I agree with you 100% all that I was saying is his rise from a salesman to a CEO with little formal education would of been an encouragement for others in the same boat.

    Now what he did when he got there is a whole other matter! We also got to accept though that the systems in place to protect the policy holders was a dismal failure, as CLICO laughed at the supervisors instruction to stop writing policies and just kept on printing them without any consequence.

    So you have 2 issues at play here, a company that did not respect the ruling of the supervisor and a supervisor that didn’t do one dam thing about it.

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  • @ Hal

    Come now there is more than enough facts to show wrong doing. Even the refusal to stop issuing policies when directed is a breach of law. If you want to say he wasn’t charged for anything, well yes I agree but that don’t make him innocent, it only means he wasn’t charged under our broke ass judicial system, just like Donville hasn’t been charged locally but wearing a bracelet compliments of the US government all like now.

    If you driving at 60 mph you guilty of speeding, because you don’t get charged don’t make you innocent.

    Can’t agree with you this time at all.

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  • @ John A

    I am not saying anyone is innocent or guilty. What I am saying is if there is a case against him then charge him. If not stop smearing the man.

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  • @ John A

    @ David

    I agree with you 100% all that I was saying is his rise from a salesman to a CEO with little formal education would of been an encouragement for others in the same boat.

    Now what he did when he got there is a whole other matter! We also got to accept though that the systems in place to protect the policy holders was a dismal failure, as CLICO laughed at the supervisors instruction to stop writing policies and just kept on printing them without any consequence.
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    Glad you posted this as @ Hal Austin talking a roll of shite to defend corrupt Parris.

    I had one of those Policies sold by a Trinidian local Clico Agent after I was referred to him by a colleague who had invested $200,000 of the company’s money as he was the Accountant.

    About 6 months after and a year before Clico fully collapsed I was visited by Neval Greenidge who told me that I should withdraw my money through cancellation of the Policy paying %8.

    Neval Greenide was a very Senior Management person in Clico.

    He told me it was a fraud scheme that would fail.

    He also went onto say that he was leaving Clico to head ALICO a direct competitor whose offices were down by old US Embassy building close to Harbour Road.

    He said heapproached me so I could become a Client after he moved as CEO to ALICO.

    He made it clear that the Fraud was being perpetrated from TOP down which was the main reason he was leaving Clico after many years.

    Neval Greenidge is now a Barbados overseas Ambassador.

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  • Apologist running around BU like a disturbed colony of red ants.

    Isn’t it amazing how a blunt and inefficient system can be as precise as a sharp scalpel as it separates Charles Herbert from the others.

    Why is it that those who want to see justice applied equitably are painted as racist and those who believe that ‘whitey’ should always get a pass are not racist?

    How is it that some blacks are quite outspoken in supporting CH, but were silent when Mr O’Rourke interfered with the black lady? Their silence was deafening.

    How can the “poorest” of the three and lowly crew member be the financier and kingpin?

    And the richest of the three and ‘captain’ of the boat has no idea what is on boat is being transported. I am surprised no one has taken the position that he did not know where it went or was going to.

    Do you realize that if some of BU black supporters of Herbert become politicians our black asses are still grass

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    Re @John …. You posted : “So you are saying if 2 people apply for a job with one being from Deacons Farm and the other from the Heights, the job should go to the one from the Heights. How then is the guy from Deacons who may be a harder worker, ever going to get a chance to better himself?”

    I PERSONALLY am saying no such thing but since I was a lad THIS Bajan society has been saying SOMETHING like dat most vociferously and still do in more muted tones!

    Class prejudice is as pervasive as racial prejudice the only difference being how more subtly it’s played!

    But let’s also be real and accept that …although some of us did, many of us here didn’t grow up in any Heights (even though we may live in such places now) … But we overcame and our parents and grand parents too … did we all not!

    Some failed to overcome and others were content to remain grounded in that milieu but those who wanted to move up and on, did just that!

    And so too will this generation and any after them!

    They will be pissed at the benefits of upper class privilege for sure but don’t the Dons maintain their own decorum with a similar spoils/privilege system!

    My point is that even as we rail and hyperventilate about the Herbert issue there are very similar dynamics at play amongst those very folks we perceive as disenchanted and angry!

    And @Hal made a great point when he noted that because of the public high profile awareness of this case that the DPP should be very “fastidious” to ensure it was handled well to avoid any claims of favoritism but I wondered “what would motivate her to be careful and fastidious”!

    Frankly, nothing.

    Her job is entrenched and unlike the US her position is not a stepping stone to higher political office so she could care less to appease public opinion..

    That’s unfortunate!

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  • @ Baje

    I going ask you one question and the answer will also tell you why Parris Like Donville, were not or will every be charged locally, here goes.

    Do you think if a US insurance company or other entity was part of the Clico PONZI scheme that all like now his tail wouldn’t be in a US Court too like poor Donville?

    Don’t confuse the fact that becaUse of our broke ass legal system and yardfowlism, that a man didn’t get charge means he innocent. How many big ass criminals you know never get charge in their hometown but were charged in the U.S system?

    You remember a fellow call El Chapo one of the biggest coke dealers ever? He used to walk bout his hometown like he own it. Where he is now? He ass lock up in a supermax prison in the USA. You remember the master of the PONZI scheme a fellow name Maddox, where he is now? You remember another one call Standford that you would think had own Antigua. He ever get charge for anything in Antigua? Where he is now too?

    Clico was nothing but a dam PONZI scheme taking the money of new policy holders to pay the old policy holders. You want a clearer example of a PONZI than that?

    How the hell the CEO hands could be clean and innocent only because he had ” friends” and never get charge?

    Plus the worst part is we the taxpayers ended up having to bear the cost of giving the policy owners a few cents on the dollar in the end.

    That whole issue really vexified me!
    (Yes it’s a word😁)

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  • @John A

    As you know Parris and Duprey were smart, they shared the donations and favours to everybody.

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  • @ de

    My comment about 2 guys applying for a job wasn’t directly meant for you but for the public to think on. My point is that our problem here is more class and financial prejudice than colour.

    Once you reach a certain level with the right ” friends” not even Elliot Nest can’t touch you!

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  • @ David

    If you don’t want the bread burn then butter both sides!

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  • @John A

    For what it is worth the line between class and race is blurred.

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  • For what it is worth the line between class and race is blurred.
    ########
    I’m not that sure that it is. We are working with a system that was set up as overtly racist and continued as such during slavery and apartheid colonialism. Since the 30s in particular up to now, we’ve seen the black elite co-opted to be its public face, while business as usual continues as before. It’s called elite accommodation. The black elite front for the racist power structure and get to share the benefits of being in the club. But in reality, they know where real power lies.

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  • The whole thing is a big blunder
    But let me tell one and all that in the eyes of the international world and those countries with whom barbados agreed to fight the war on drugs
    Barbados would be looked upon as suspect to harbouring drug dealers
    What the Dpp did yesterday would have huge ramifications towards the country and its people

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  • Do you think if a US insurance company or other entity was part of the Clico PONZI scheme that all like now his tail wouldn’t be in a US Court too like poor Donville?
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    They would be facing 100’s of years incarceration or been convicted by now WITH HEAVY FINES INCLUDED..

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  • Baje you just answered your earlier concern sir. As much as we hate to admit it that is the unfortunate truth.

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  • There must come a point where we Bajans recognise that we are a laughing stock – a country with over 95% African descendants and over 50 years of ‘independence’ still running an apartheid system in 2019 that discriminates against the majority. A country where there is no rule of law because the law cannot apply to rich white people. The thing is that every Bajan knew this was the way this case was going to go and many said so from day 1. Come on Barbados, it’s time for change.

    Bang on Tee White!!

    Bajans are a bunch of slave-minded hypocrites. An absolute failed state in the making.

    What can we tell the boys on the block?

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @Barbados Underground Whistleblower June 27, 2019 11:45 AM “I must add the Court Prosecutor was taken by surprise that day when the deceased DPP Charles Leacock walk into the Magistrates Court .”

    Darn!!! I would be real real surprised too if a dead man walked in to court.

    Man! I might even faint.

    Lolll!!!

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  • Barbados Underground Whistleblower

    @ Simple

    Good one.

    I stand to be corrected, should have been now deceased as he was alive at the time.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @miller etc. “to trick 3 sequential prime ministers of Barbados.”

    I don’t believe that any Prime Minister was “tricked” at all.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    It is not only race, and it is not only class. We know that in Barbados white people are regarded as being of high social class, so race and class same damn thing.

    But it is also GENDER.

    Way too many Bajan men, of all races and all classes are too dishonest, to willing to bribe and be bribed.

    I have a sister who for many, many, many, many decades has said that when she comes back after death that she will come back as a WHITE MAN. She too sees, knows and understands the truth.

    In Barbados WHITE and MALE is the whole Venn diagram. It covers class, race and gender.

    Don’t care if the boys of BU cuss me.

    Don’t give a damn.

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  • @ Hal Austin June 27, 2019 5:37 PM
    “If there is a case against Mr Parris, then bring charges. If not STOP smearing the man.”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    That will happen when Parris joins hands in hell with the “Guyanese-born” DPP Charles Leacock who, like the former PM(s), was also a very close friend of the said Greenverbs.

    We shall never forget the ‘smear’ campaign you waged against the same ‘Guyanese born’ Leacock despite his Bajan heritage.

    What did the “Guyanese-born” DPP do to you to invoke such barbs from your slingshot of verbal abuse?

    Could you have contributed through your verbal slings and arrows to the man’s ‘untimely’ death?

    When are you going to stop smearing the local Muslim community with your ‘collective-guilt’ attitude towards those who have made Barbados their home even if you still insist in referring to them as the imported breed of Barbadians?

    Those who live in glass houses with smeared windows to look through should not throw stones.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @Hal Austin June 27, 2019 5:37 PM “If there is a case against Mr Parris, then bring charges. If not STOP smearing the man.”

    You know that some of us worked with him, right?

    There is no smoke without fire.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @Barbados Underground Whistle Blower “offered for sale a taser stun gun and pepper spray for $1500 by a uniform policeman. With the further offer of guns sold by him and other associates in the Police. The Taser stun gun I handed over to a prominent lawyer.”

    If this story is true then YOU are a big, big part of the problem.

    In case you do not understand what you did wrong let me explain it to you.

    A policemen sold you a stun gun which was not his to sell. And you bought it? WRONG.

    You handed it over to a prominent lawyer? WRONG, WRONG. As neither you nor the lawyer had any legal right to possess the stun gun.

    And by the way, I don’t know if you have noticed that David the blog master has a special column on lawyers. So why did you think that a prominent lawyer was a good person to give a stun gun to? Have prominent lawyers proven themselves to be better people than other people?

    Where is the stun gun now? You don’t know? WRONG.

    Maybe I should apply to BCC to teach the ethics class.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @John A June 27, 2019 5:46 PM “CLICO laughed at the supervisors instruction to stop writing policies and just kept on printing them without any consequence. So you have 2 issues at play here, a company that did not respect the ruling of the supervisor and a supervisor that didn’t do one dam thing about it.”

    You are WRONG.

    There WAS/IS a consequence to CLICO’s continuing to write the Flexible Executive Annuities. That consequence is that MY government has taken up MY tax money to reimburse the people who bought into CLICO’s dishonesty. I don’t like bearing bad consequences for other people’s bad actions. I don’t like how my tax money is being spent.

    Wasn’t the Supervisor of Insurance (a woman) sent on leave when she tried to do her job. And hasn’t this widely been seen that this could happen because Parris was not a leper, but rather David Thompson’s friend and subsequently another Prime Ministerial friend?

    Maybe I should teach the ethics class at BCC.

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  • @ SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife June 27, 2019 9:54 PM
    “I don’t believe that any Prime Minister was “tricked” at all.”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    So what would you call the game of string-pulling aka puppeterring?

    Would you be a bit more euphemistic in your description and refer to the scam as ‘falling under the influence and control (aka spell) of a financial godfather?

    Didn’t OSA shower praise of investment competence on the said astute management of CLICO after receiving a $75,000.00 cheque as a token of appreciation for such encouraging words ‘expressing confidence in the future of CLICO in Barbados?

    How do you explain Thompson’s deliberate fabrication of false invoices to launder money out of CLICO as forensically established by the JM?

    As a move to bail out Parris from bankruptcy since he was unable to subsist on $8 million?

    Why was Mrs. Braithwaite nee Drakes put on administrative leave for simply doing her legally-established duties as Regulator?

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @TheOgazerts June 27, 2019 6:40 PM “How is it that some blacks are quite outspoken in supporting CH, but were silent when Mr O’Rourke interfered with the black lady? ”

    Black Bajan women are the wretched of the earth.

    Rarely do Bajan men black or white come to the defense of black Bajan women.

    Although ALL Bajan men ARE nurtured by black women, their black mothers, black grandmothers, black female nannies, black maids, black female school teachers.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @Miller June 27, 2019 10:36 PM “So what would you call the game of string-pulling aka puppeterring?”

    Willing participation.

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  • Barbados Underground Whistleblower

    @ Simple
    @Barbados Underground Whistle Blower “offered for sale a taser stun gun and pepper spray for $1500 by a uniform policeman. With the further offer of guns sold by him and other associates in the Police. The Taser stun gun I handed over to a prominent lawyer.”

    If this story is true then YOU are a big, big part of the problem.
    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    At the time other Police officers were involved with the planting of evidence because I refused to be extorted for S15,000 by one of their criminal associates a US Deportee which they were trying to railroad me to pay over to them on his behalf.

    Sometimes one has to fight skullduggery and dirtiness with any strategy available.

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  • “Why was Mrs. Braithwaite nee Drakes put on administrative leave for simply doing her legally-established duties as Regulator?”

    To the tune of nearly a million bucks too…..at taxpayers expense too, just to shut her up about the Leroy Parris Clico thefts….she is still on leave at taxpayers expense as far as we know …and that was way before 2008.

    BLP did that and DLP continued it….both OWNED BY LEROY LEPER..

    “Black Bajan women are the wretched of the earth.”

    Rarely do Bajan men black or white come to the defense of black Bajan women.

    Although ALL Bajan men ARE nurtured by black women, their black mothers, black grandmothers, black female nannies, black maids, black female school teachers.”

    Second time i noticed you said that, first time i wanted to expand but was exhsusted, will do so now.

    Black women are NOT the wretched of the earth, viewed another way, it’s the STINKING WRETCHED OF THE EARTH…,all those you have mentioned and more….WHO HAVE BEEN TERRORIZING BLACK WOMEN FOR CENTURIES…but wait until we start fighting back motherfckers.

    In my opinion, black men and black governments who DO NOT PROTECT BLACK WOMEN ARE THE WRETCHED OF THE EARTH….the BLP government….is such scum.

    And some white men, even in Barbados, rare but it happens, do come to the aid of black women. You will find it more so in bigger countries, had an experience on a subway many year ago where this black dude decided he would rub himself on me on a packed train, i did not even realized a white dude had noticed and before i could react…immediately got up and gave me his seat….so gentlemen intent on protecting black women, can still be found….but black males need to step up more to protect black women….especially with black governments as dangerous and deadly to black women and children as BLP.

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  • I so LOVE to see when stinking racists are embarrassed worldwide.,.lol..,and this demon Bolsanaro is racist and evil to his core.

    “RIO DE JANEIRO — President Jair Bolsonaro of Brazil has vowed to pursue drug traffickers relentlessly. So he was hard-pressed to explain how a presidential plane ended up carrying 86 pounds of cocaine across the Atlantic during an official trip.

    A Brazilian airman on that aircraft was caught with the shipment on Tuesday during a brief stop in Spain en route to the Group of 20 summit in Japan, Brazilian and Spanish officials said Wednesday.

    The cocaine bust was bad enough. But it was an extraordinary embarrassment for Mr. Bolsonaro, who has exalted the integrity and professionalism of Brazil’s military.”

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife
    June 27, 2019 10:39 PM

    @TheOgazerts June 27, 2019 6:40 PM “How is it that some blacks are quite outspoken in supporting CH, but were silent when Mr O’Rourke interfered with the black lady? ”
    Black Bajan women are the wretched of the earth.
    Rarely do Bajan men black or white come to the defense of black Bajan women.
    Although ALL Bajan men ARE nurtured by black women, their black mothers, black grandmothers, black female nannies, black maids, black female school teachers.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    You have to admit black bajan women have changed!

    Here is an example of a young bajan male being nurtured by a black bajan woman.

    Why complain!!.

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  • @ John

    A symbol of a nation in decline. Where is our collective morality?

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  • @ Muhammad,

    I am assuming that you are of no significance in my social universe, but fabrication is part of your culture, judging from your name. Apart from describing the late DPP as Guyana-born, plse give a SINGLE example of the below statement. Was he born in Guyana or not? Despite your foreign heritage, you are struck with the Barbadian Condition. Don’t let truth get in the way. You are a parasitic smidgen.

    We shall never forget the ‘smear’ campaign you waged against the same ‘Guyanese born’ Leacock despite his Bajan heritage.(Quote)

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  • @John A
    For what it is worth the line between class and race is blurred.(Quote)

    Is this for real?

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  • Hopefully president Mia has learned her lesson….when ya are a WEAK, POOR, CORRUPT GOVERNMENT…ya stay away from the slave trading, human trafficking countries or get CRUSHED…most of them fund terrorism..she could have easily rushed off to Tunisia …,since the other African countries that are not part of the dessert rat brigade of killers, enslavers and terrorists were obviously TOO BLACK FOR HER.

    “Twin suicide attacks rock central Tunis
    One killed and several others wounded in blasts targeting police patrol, police station in the Tunisian capital.

    12 hours ago
    Two suicide blasts have rocked the capital of Tunisia, killing at least one police officer and wounding several people.

    The first explosion on Thursday involved a suicide bomber who targeted a police patrol on Tunis’s central Charles de Gaulle Street, not far from the French embassy.

    One police officer was killed, while another was wounded, according to the interior ministry. Three civilians were also wounded.

    Body parts were strewn on the road around the police car, an AFP news agency correspondent reported.

    A loud explosion was heard throughout the surrounding neighbourhood.

    A second attacker blew himself up shortly afterwards on a national guard base in the capital’s al-Qarjani district, the interior ministry said. Four security personnel were wounded in that attack.

    “At 11am (10:00 GMT) an individual blew himself up outside the back door” of the base, interior ministry spokesman Sofiene Zaag told AFP.

    The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant group (ISIL) claimed responsibility, saying the “executors of the two attacks on Tunisian security elements” were its “fighters”, according to United States-based monitor SITE Intelligence Group.”

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  • “To the tune of nearly a million bucks too…..at taxpayers expense too, just to shut her up about the Leroy Parris Clico thefts….she is still on leave at taxpayers expense as far as we know …and that was way before 2008.”

    Hmmmm……….

    In interest of FAIRNESS and CLARITY, the Supervisor of Insurance issued an order in August 2009 prohibiting CLICO International Life Insurance (CIL) from selling new business. The company contravened the order and sold over 800 new policies.

    On June 1, 2010, then Deputy Supervisor of Insurance Vernese Brathwaite filed a complaint urging the police to probe the sale of these new policies by CIL despite a prohibition order from her department.

    After months of investigation, then CoP Dottin referred the matter to then DPP Charles Leacock, who subsequently returned to the file to the police, triggering the process by which Leroy Parris and Terrence Thornhill were criminally charged under Section 185 of the Insurance Act, Cap 130, for contravening an order by the Supervisor of Insurance in August 2009.

    Ms Brathwaite was acting Supervisor of Insurance when she was sent on special leave and it was reported in an article appearing in the July 9, 2017 edition of the Daily Nation that:

    “Former acting Supervisor of Insurance, Vernese Brathwaite, who has been on leave for seven years, is being paid her annual salary of $98 087, or $686 609.”

    I cannot remember seeing any “follow up” article on this story or information relative to if, as at June 28, 2019, she is still being paid “at tax-payers’ expense.”

    Based on the available information, it is clear these events occurred between 2009 and 2010. Therefore, to suggest “this was way before 2008” is misleading the forum……. even though it may have not been done intentionally.

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  • @Artax

    The part about Thornhillband Parris being charged serves as a reminder as well. This case was setback to give priority to the judicial managers case? Can you remind us?

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  • so what offence Thompson would have committed re M/L if Parris and Thornhill were charged for a regulatory offence which i assume Section 185 of the Insurance Act, Cap 130, for contravening an order by the Supervisor of Insurance is and which took place in 2009

    can someone also post what the JM said about the monies routed to Thompson’s Law Firm by Parris. i really want to understand the offence Thompson is alleged to have committed.

    We as black bajans must check our eagerness to prosecute white bajans. hasnt it dawned upon us that Herbert may be innocent of this matter? let us get it right and be fair across the board. what we must do is where there is an allege crime, investigate, present the evidence and let the chip fall where they may.

    so if a white man committed a crime and is charged and is locked up -good. the same goes for all other races. the playing field must be level.

    i am all for addressing historical wrongs but we should not do so by committing modern day wrongs

    what i sense is a rabid rush to find a man guilty of a crime that he may or may not have committed and in any case a black bajan DPP dropped charges against him stemming from a drug investigation conducted by black bajan policemen.

    please let us be fair and when they are proven to commit crime throw the whole weight of the law upon them.

    i dont want to hear crap about Bim is corrupt. i have worked all over this world and i am yet to meet an uncorrupt country where the rich cant buy off politicians and civil servants. that is not to say that Bim shouldnt do anything about corruption. that is just being real

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  • @Greene

    Do a search of BU, the Delloittes forensic reports was posted.

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  • Where did David Thompson get an over 30 million dollar estate from….information should be public knowledge but somehow it is a secret that even that halfassed chief justice is covering up.

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  • Artax…we are all on the same page Ms Brathwaite was then and more than likely STILL IS…being prevented from even discussing that criminal act by Parris and his band of criminals….AS LONG AS SHE REMAINS ON TAXPAYERS PAYROLL….she is effectively GAGGED..

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  • @Hal

    My view is that it’s mainly about class not so much colour today. Its the fact that if you drive a big ride and you live in the “Heights ” you are a better person than the guy in Deacons. You may be a richer person but are you a better person too, I don’t think so.

    I had the misfortune of having to go to a function the other day and it confirmed everything I am saying. In the car park were the Benz, Audis and BMWs and inside all races were gathered mingling. The common denominator here was foreseen class and financial status. My stay was short as I had other things to do? So I got in my 7 year old Japanese car and left.

    Years ago it might of been about colour when places like the BARBADOS Yacht Club was in full bloom, but remember you also then had The Black Business Man’s Association. If you look today at organIsations like the Rotary Club for example, all colours lunch together at the Hilton.

    I don’t think the lines are blurred, I think they have clearly been redrawn, but this time they are based solely on social and economic prejudice as opposed to skin colour as was the case in the 50’s and 60’s say.

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  • Even if we are playing the enlightened ones here, we must not forget that in the industrialised countries it is a practice tolerated by the state to bribe coloured politicians in the South. I will just mention the Inniss case as an example. In the past, bribes could even be deducted from taxes as operating costs.

    So there are two sides to this: On the one hand there are the corrupt idiots in the south who destroy their own society, on the other hand there are much more corrupt hypocrites in the north who always preach morality to the south but deliberately profit enormously from the misery in the south.

    Political correctness or not: The whites supply the torches, the easily inflammable oil and the weapons, with which the coloureds massacre each other in the south. The blacks may be the direct perpetrators in their countries, but the whites are the indirect perpetrators and at the same time instigators and helpers.

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  • @ Tron

    Spot on.

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