Chairman of Goddards Enterprises Asserts His Innocence

[Barbados Underground]  Yes Jeff, Charles Herbert faces a monumental task, not least because he has already been convicted in the court of public opinion. The social meaning of the case has become about the history of race relations in Barbados, so although the court case is supposed to consider the evidence dispassionately, I am not certain that a jury will lack bias

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  • @Are-we-there-yet August 5, 2018 11:24 PM “I can only add that HC’s outstanding academic record over many years seems to have served to evoke feelings of jealousy, inferiority, nastiness and spite in much of the population. Feelings that seem to have come to the fore in much of the discussion related to PLT’s comments on the Ecstacy situation. The pushback by many posters to most of PLT’s posts might have been largely due to the HC references by PLT. References to none of the other Older Secondary schools would have had such a visceral effect.”

    The ONLY reason I did not go to HC was because I had/have no testicles.

    And it is entirely not my fault that I have no testicles.

    My children have gone to HC, because by the time they entered, posession of testicles was not requirement.

    Are my children “brighter” than me?\

    No.

    Do I feel jealous of, inferior to, nasty or spiteful towards my own children?

    No.

    Please come with a better argument.

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  • Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service

    How does one even begin to put on pedestals these older schools still named after dead slave masters and with such pride…over 150 years post slavery, I can’t even begin to imagine the extensive damage to and types of minds in a parliament and in a society that still sees nothing wrong with that, that still glow with ignorance at attending high schools still named after violent and vicious slave masters..

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  • Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service

    “Dear Black people, you need to make sure that your anger is directed against the structures that actually support White privilege, not against some convenient scapegoat, because if the scapegoat is found not guilty by a court of law the result will be the strengthening of White privilege, not its destruction.”

    Make no mistake PLT…that “white privilege” that is undeserved is GIVEN to the minority population by successive black parliaments elected by 2 generations of majority black populations in the last 52 years..so in reality…it’s the black government to remove that privilege which will automatically remove the anger.

    ….the minority population most of whom are descendants of indentured servants like their north american and european counterparts are not entitled to any white privilege. ..

    ….and the sooner the Mia government starts dismantling the evil structures and institutions that both black governments built and created to continue to perpetrate that myth and lie and indulge whites in these disenfranchising to the black population gymnastics in stupidity…the sooner a social balance will be achieved and brought to bear on the island…the sooner the black population will realize that white people and others are not entitled to any white privilege above blacks or anyone else.

    As long as those racist structures are removed, it won’t matter how the Herbert drug case swings and the onus will remain on the police prosecutors to do their jobs without taking bribes.

    At the end of the day, this is not the accuseds first fall guy for taking a gun or drugs rap because they think they are too good for jail…that is the reality, well known, not a myth and given what is known so far, the Prescod dude will have to be an idiot to take this fall, so either they all go down or they all walk…but make no mistake those two are not being scapegoated…

    …it is good that the drug bust happened to highlight the way forward to remove the disgusting and repulsuve structures the white population has been clinging to post slavery and particularly in the last 60 years to be boldfacedly and shamelessly asserting a white privilege that none of them are even remotely entitled to….

    As soon as the government removes those structures, the 7500 whites on the island will know they have no privilege greater than what the black population has….and will have to adapt to their new status as ordinary people on the same level as the majority population.

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ the Honourable Blogmaster your assistance please

    could you post the link for the pictures of the drugs one more time?

    Thank You

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  • Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service

    “Why John. It really tel wunna dis long to compose this line of defence?

    This was where wunna should have begun!

    All of you should have started on the sanctimonious line that NONE OF YOU WERE GUILTY, sorry not You, NONE OF them WERE busy and that it was a plant against all three of You!

    And For that reason GEL was willing to stand bail for ALL THREE OF YOU WAS BEING SUPPLIED.

    Remember that right now with de black man in jail it looks like Prescod is the fall guy for wunna sins.”

    Lol..lol…too funny. the thing about using the old worn out lie…the black man did it…lol…it’s overused, should not even be of this era still…and that is what will nail them, they should have embraced Prescod as being as innocent as they are..but no, blaming black people for crimes whites commit is still No. 1 on their lists of …to do..

    Am sure the situation was so frightening that they forgot all about Adrian Ricardo Moore until that time in their lives resurfaced…..lol

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  • I can understand WW’s logic there are 19 white bales three mulatto bales and three brown bales just by the numbers alone the white guys did it LOL It is alright to speculate I guess but why not let the courts decide what happened here.Even SS has no complaints about barbados courts…he bought a great sofa set there.

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  • Piece…those look like packages of cocaine according to those people in the know ..although in my mind still unconfirmed…and is the very popular story making the rounds about how, what and where the packages were found.

    This drama will continue for some time..

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  • The ONLY reason I did not go to HC was because I had/have no testicles.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Girls from QC were coming to HC from the time I went there in 1966!!!

    Did you go to QC?

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  • Whistleblower

    Be careful of some personal information you are putting out there.Don’t let posters rile you up so much that you get careless with your personal info.

    If we add up the number of irrelevancies posted by john on this post,therefore stretching it out – this blog would have been a lot shorter and the comments more to the point.

    I am still uncertain as to whether Prescod has been released on bail.We were told his wife has cancer and all that yet none of the white folks seem to have any sympathy for her and the stress she must be under.

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  • Lawson…the only white packages I see are what the brown packages may contain…everything else looks brown or beige to me, that obsession with whiteness have ya Cartel friends with a trafficking charge…look how famous they all are…lol

    No one is stopping the courts from doing their job..they have the evidence right??? they supposedly have some kinda video right??? so who is stopping them from doing good police work and prosecuting the accused with the aid of Grenada authorities.

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  • Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service
    August 6, 2018 6:03 AM

    And For that reason GEL was willing to stand bail for ALL THREE OF YOU WAS BEING SUPPLIED.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Suppose Mr. Prescod had been in Grenada with the boat over the two months and his task was to be present and ensure something like this did not happen?

    That’s also possible.

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  • Well, Well
    August 6, 2018 6:24 AM

    Lawson…the only white packages I see are what the brown packages may contain…everything else looks brown or beige to me

    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    Your panties are showing!!

    Relax, don’t blow a gasket.

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  • And supposed he was not there and supposed who built the drugs into the new fixtures were ordered to do so by the chairman of GEL and the captain of the boat…Prescod does not have a boss status he could not order anything, only do as ordered as employee., the boat is not his and he is not captain.

    That is why Herbert and Rogers got nailed…Prescod had absolutely no say on that boat.

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  • Liesalot..ah know yall frighten, but a little prison time can’t hurt, it will build character..all this pretence of white privilege gotta go, it has run it’s course and serves no useful purpose to the majority population whose tax dollars and pension fund have to upkeep the island.

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  • How ya like that one.???

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  • Is the attorney general going to say anything about these blatant abuses of the sub judice rules? In a failed state the first thing that goes is the rule of law. Barbados is a failed state.

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  • This case I predict will be re-scheduled on multiple occasions until when the conviction (if one is ever made) or declaration of innocence is given – there would hardly be a whimper.

    Next 3 to 5 years.

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  • T. Inniss,

    We must not let concepts such as justice get in the way of Bajan loud mouths. If I were Herbert’s lawyer I would challenge every juror appointed about if they had read on BU anything about the case. If they admitted having done so, then ask for them to be removed. It is building up to be a massive miscarriage of justice in an island where miscarriages are routine.

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  • A wannabe journalist thinks he is a lawyer…ya were never good at being a journalist, what makes ya think ya are a good lawyer without even a law degree, because you may know a few lawyers in UK..does not mean anything.

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  • Hal

    If you say the jury pool is tainted by the comments on BU or elsewhere,then the prosecutor could also raise the matter of prejudicing the pool with Herbert press conference no?

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  • Are-we-there-yet

    BU Whistleblower and SS;

    I withdraw the word “jealousy” from my earlier post as it seems to have unleashed some violent reactions from you and perhaps others and could have been easily misinterpreted, as it obviously was.

    But read and understand what PLT wrote about his feelings re. HC. Read and understand what TheOGazerts wrote about his feelings about HC. Read and understand what I wrote about HC in my post here and in a number of other early posts when the subject of HC came up. HC was a good school academically but it damaged a number of psyches, including those of some students who did not go there. These vignettes all have the common theme that HC engendered negative feelings for the school in its students who might have come from a disadvantaged background.and in no way tried to seek nor claim any kind of privilege for having been a student there.

    IMHO, PLT used HC, not to claim some privelege or access any special treatment, but as a reference to indicate that he knew Herbert as a schoolboy. I stick to my analysis that mentioning HC in those posts merely served to add support to the unleashing of the vigorous unwonted attacks on him that followed.

    BUW, as you add to your writings on this topic you are exposing the degree to which some of the claims you make of your BU persona seem to lack consistency and might therefore call into question the accuracy of that whole persona.

    SS; Your argument on this matter is not up to its usual very high standard. I have siblings who went to Cawmere, St Michael and QC and other family members who did not go to HC and I don’t think they are in anyway inferior to me or any of the other family members who went to HC. Indeed, they have practically all done better financially and otherwise in the wide multicoloured and textured tapestry of life than I have.

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  • T. Inniss,

    The press conference was bizarre. It is the contamination of US nonsense. Too much CNN.

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  • Ha, ha…needs to stick to what he is good at.. being a .fool.

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  • @Well, Well August 6, 2018 6:32 AM “Prescod had absolutely no say on that boat.”

    Prescod was/is essentially the “boy in the yard.” and now the hurricane has come he has to remain in the yard. No shelter fpr him, no bail for him.

    It has always been thus in this Barbados.

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  • Barbados Underground Whistleblower

    @ are-we-there-yet

    Again you start the morning with your BS.

    Not everyone fits in your box or narrative.

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  • Simple..I don’t know who these think they are fooling, there is living proof of what they do, they can pretend as much as they want but obviously not for as long as they like, many, many people know who they are and what do..

    The foolish black men have to stop taking the drugs and guns fall for white and Indian, Syrian, Jordanian, American and all these criminal men who believe they have some kinda privilege to commit crimes and then some fool black man in Barbados takes the fall and lock up for them ..that is the only reason they keep black men around…the lock up factor…where they don’t plan to get locked up and do prison time themselves..

    If I did not know of this, there is no way anyone could convince me that black men are still so stupid to take a gun charge or drug charge for whites etc…in 2018…..this crap just does not happen anywhere else that I know. it highlights how backward, despite all the education…that these men still are..

    Black men bring that on themselves, they know how they are viewed by these bottom feeding riffraff parasites……yet they jump at the opportunity to become involved, they go looking for their own trouble.

    PLT does not know just how lucky he is to escape some kinda lock up by getting involved sentimentally with that toxic crowd.

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  • @John August 6, 2018 6:19 AM “Girls from QC were coming to HC from the time I went there in 1966!!! Did you go to QC?”

    When you were just a little school boy, hiding from the sun under the sandbox tree, I was an adult, working, paying taxes, in order to ensure that you got a good education.

    So what if my parents could not afford the busfare for me to go to town, so what if they sent me to a secondary school within walking distance, so what if they had 7 children in school at the same time.

    None of us have ever been charged with drug trafficking.

    None of us have ever been arrested.

    None of us have ever been charged with stealing a tin of corned beef.

    Unlike some of you here my daddy finished his schooling at 11, and my mummy at 13. They raised nearly a dozen children to adulthood.

    None of us have ever spent a day in jail…not even on remand.

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  • Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right

    @ The Honourable Blogmaster

    You said and I quote “…The black man is in jail because he does not have the means or network to satisfy the surety? It says a little about how Herbert and Rogers have positioned themselves in the transaction. Bear in mind this is a man that has been employed by GEL based on a deviation in HR policy. To leave him in the cold now suggest he has to fight this battle alone why?…”

    To the OLD DAVID of BU…maybe it is because it is the Bak Holiday that you are at the controls while the other two are out on the road.

    But here in your statement is the wisdom of age.

    Prescod HAS BEEN LEFT ALONE because these persons in their lack of wisdom EVIDENCED BY THEM proceeding to the cameras of the media AGAINST THE DIRECTION OF THEIR LEGAL COUNSEL feel that it was in their interests to “throw Prescod Under the Bus” or in this case the MULE tain, emphasis on mule. and thereafter let Arthur Holder run interference with Prescod to placate him and tell him all is going to be well.

    He WILL BE LEFT TO LANGUISH in the Prisons and unless he **** this is going to be the way that the cookie crumbles.

    I am watching carefully to see if our Senator comes back after the warning he got from John the Quaker and Lawson.

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  • Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right

    @ The Honourable Blogmaster

    The reason that I asked for this item lay in its whois information

    which reads IN PART, the significant part

    “…Domain Name: WUNNUH.ORG
    Registry Domain ID: D189475839-LROR
    Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.publicdomainregistry.com
    Registrar URL: http://www.publicdomainregistry.com
    Updated Date: 2018-07-29T18:12:39Z
    Creation Date: 2016-07-30T17:17:16Z
    Registry Expiry Date: 2019-07-30T17:17:16Z
    Registrar Registration Expiration Date:
    Registrar: PDR Ltd. d/b/a PublicDomainRegistry.com
    Registrar IANA ID: 303
    Registrar Abuse Contact Email: [email protected]…”

    I dont have much time here but you see where I am going with this?

    Where did this image first surface?

    The first reference to this item is from Peter Lawrence Thompson WHO BY THE WAY DID A GREAT POST about this matter AT 9.14 am

    But here is the thing that is the “anomaly”

    Where did PeterLT get this item from? He gives 4 possible options in his story doesn’t he?

    And one would not wish to impute that PLT’s source stories are not true but the thing about this that you would be more seasoned to identify and comment is

    Updated Date: 2018-07-29T18:12:39Z IN JULY on the 29th IN JUXTAPOSITION WITH THE “email protected” INFORMATION

    You see where I am going with this?

    The image was not just posted and supplied to a party such as he with the best afro in Barbados in those years BUT IT WAS posted and the source of the image was hidden!

    Now there are a few things that come to mind here about this modus of disclosure but what this is indicating is that Herbert IS GUILTY but the parties directing the disclosure DONT WISH TO BE CONTAMINATED by the disclosure

    De ole man got to go but I was wondering if a feller could do a lil ting for de grandson

    Simple lines that say

    (a) Prescod arrested on such and such a date
    (b) incarcerated for x time
    (c) and intermingle the Adrian Moore information with respective timeline

    Like de ole man said IF DE POLICE WERE TO LOOK CLOSELY AT *** they would see everything dat involved here and the DPP would be able to tie up this case BUT as John the Quaker intimates in his comments “de Grenadian Policemens is genuises” {and Barbadian brighter dan eveybody else] he ent add dat last part but you know dis is whu we tink…

    I could tell de police how to find out dis ting but dem is mixed up with the corruption and a fellow doan want to tell them whu is whu and den dem lik up de evidence

    And me peeples dem gone way fuh good

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  • Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right

    @ The OLD DAVID OF BU.

    If you are not afraid of where this will take Barbados, I will give you an avenue to follow but i have to get a confirmation today or tomorrow, then i will provide you with it once it is allowed.

    I gone, i late

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  • @PUDRYR

    Wunnah.org domain has been up since 2017.

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  • Piece..I was talking to a man well familiar with these types of situations…black boys have to be educated from in school that they do not exist to go to prison for white, Indian, Syrian or any other criminals…this must be taught in the schools to save black boys who grow up to be men…from themselves…..it is not normal or ok like many are saying, I could not believe my ears when grown black men will tell you that is how it is on the island…something is fundamentally wrong with the psyches of those who see this as normal…it would be frightening if the black politicians and ministers also see this as normal…then we will know why the island is in it’s present decayed state..IT SHOULD NOT BE HAPPENING..not in the days of slavery and more importantly……NOT TODAY.

    Something even worse is wrong with these whites, Indians, Syrians etc who keep black men on their payrolls and on standby to go to prison for them..

    What that empty-headed joke Ha, Ha should be calling for is the AG putting systems in place and amending laws so that these boat owners and boat captains must be held accountable for any drugs and guns found on their boats, no excuses, your boat, you should be aware what’s on it, you are responsible for your boat…and stop this scam where they hire black men and keep them around in case of some drug or gun bust, so the black man can hold the charge and easily thrown away..

    Caswell will be fine..they cannot undo what they have done all these years..none of them..and they themselves did it voluntarily ..too many people know who they are, what they have done and are more than willing to expose them….the senator is the least of their problems and they sure as hell can’t mess with the others who know their business, that would be suicide.

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  • @Hal, MrFireInTheTheatre are you really suggesting that we are a failed country because one of the reasons is an inability to sit jurors who cannot objectively review this case! Really.

    We are small yes, and the case will get wide public ventilation but have we not handled other well publicized cases before at Assizes!

    There have been horrific murders, explosive criminal acts and other very well publicized events that were concluded in our courts so I can only surmise that defense lawyers in the various cases adopted all means necessary to help their clients…

    …so in the case where the vagabond removed his wife’s (or girlfriend, don’t recall) vagina and thus killed the lady and scandalized the entire nation, as I recall he was convicted in a court of law….jurors were found then and I presume the judge admonished them accordingly.

    Add to that the notorious escapades of people like Mark Young, Al Harding and Buddy Brathwaite who captivated Bajans like how Capone or Biggs did in their criminal acts in their countries. We Bajans were comprehensively regaled in media by that Young and Harding kadooment of bullets, death and mayhem in Bush Hall years ago and yet a jury was subsequently seated to ‘objectively’ convict Harding, as I recall.

    What exactly is your point!

    The lawyers will defend their client vigorously no doubt but to suggest that the case must be or would be thrown out due to such severe contamination of the jury pool appears far fetched.

    @AreWe, the joy of high school should be the camaraderie over those six to eight years with other like minded boy or girls as you (we) all develop academically….very unfortunate that Kolig conjured up such a level of distaste even as late as 70s that the camaraderie was not an abiding feature.

    I suspect the folks who shout ‘up and on’ here or those from CP or St. Michaels would not feel as aggrieved about their alma maters as late as after the 70s. And just as clearly Lodge boys of your era and before (as former HBoy Maj.Headley chronicled) would surely share your type displeasure; and a history of Cawmere reflects similiar issues in those early days…..the social structure of the nation was surely the overiding problem…as you suggest.

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  • So what if my parents could not afford the busfare for me to go to town, so what if they sent me to a secondary school within walking distance, so what if they had 7 children in school at the same time.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I agree, so what.

    You did not go to QC … and so what.

    But you are being dishonest by stating you did not go to HC because you were not a male.

    All you need have said is you did not go to HC.

    None of my nephews or neices did either, big deal!!

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right August 6, 2018 10:32 AM
    wunnuh.org is my company website for my consulting practice. I thought everyone knew that because at http://wunnuh.org/who-we-are/ it clearly and says “Our principal is Peter Lawrence Thompson, MBA, CFRE…”

    I received the photo through a WhatsApp group that deals primarily with entrepreneurship. I do not know who took the photo or who first circulated it on social media but I am guessing that it was taken by law enforcement.

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  • Jeff Cumberbatch

    If I were Herbert’s lawyer I would challenge every juror appointed about if they had read on BU anything about the case. If they admitted having done so, then ask for them to be removed. It is building up to be a massive miscarriage of justice in an island where miscarriages are routine.

    As a juror, being aware of the differing views of others on a matter is not a cogent ground for challenge. To have already made up one’s mind as to the guilt or innocence of the accused is, however. I do not agree with your assertion that miscarriages of justice are routine here. We both know of another ISLAND where these have occurred far more frequently, don’t we?

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  • Jeff,

    I do not know of any island/liberal democratic jurisdiction where miscarriages of justice are routine, with the possible exception of the US. Having a preconceived idea of the case under trial is a disqualification; jurors should make their decisions based on the evidence presented in court. By the way, it is now contempt of court for a juror to read internet reports on the case during the trial. People in the UK have been jailed for it. It is one of the first things judges tell newly sworn in juries. And, unlike the US, it is a crime for a juror to be interviewed or express publicly his/her views on the case.

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  • Jeff Cumberbatch

    @ Hal, Are you sure?

    Stefan Kiszko served 16 years in prison after being wrongly convicted of the 1975 murder of the schoolgirl Lesley Molseed in West Yorkshire. He was freed on appeal in 1992. Later, Ronald Castree’s DNA was found to match samples taken from semen on the 11-year-old’s clothes. He was jailed for life for the murder in 2007.

    • Stephen Downing was jailed for 27 years for beating to death the typist Wendy Sewell in Bakewell. His conviction was quashed in 2002 after a campaign by the then editor of the Matlock Mercury, Don Hale, who said Downing had been interviewed without legal representation and his signed confession had been written by a police officer.

    • Barry George endured two trials for the murder of the TV presenter Jill Dando and was eventually acquitted of the charge in August, eight years after he was jailed.

    • Derek Bentley, 19, was hanged for involvement in the murder of the police constable Sidney Miles in 1953. His family campaigned to clear his name, saying he had severe learning difficulties and a mental age of 11. In 1998, his conviction was overturned by the court of appeal because the trial judge had misdirected the jury on points of law.

    • Judith Ward spent 18 years in jail for the IRA killing of 12 people on board an army coach on the M62 in February 1973. Her conviction was quashed in 1992 after her lawyers argued the trial jury should have been told of her history of mental illness. Three appeal court judges concluded Ward’s conviction had been “secured by ambush” and that government forensic scientists withheld vital information.

    • Winston Silcott was cleared of murdering the policeman Keith Blakelock during the Broadwater Farm riots in Tottenham in 1985, after new evidence came to light. He spent six years in prison for Blakelock’s murder before successfully appealing. But he was not released as he was serving a second life sentence for the murder of a boxer in east London in 1984. He left prison after serving 17 years for stabbing 24-year-old Anthony Smith to death. He has always said he acted in self-defence.

    • Babysitter Suzanne Holdsworth spent three years in prison for murdering Kyle Fisher, a neighbour’s two-year-old son, before she was cleared in a retrial last year. She had been jailed for life after being convicted in 2005 of killing the toddler by repeatedly banging his head against a wooden bannister at her Hartlepool home. The appeal court ruled her conviction was unsafe after new medical evidence emerged suggesting Kyle may have died from an epileptic seizure. She was found not guilty at the retrial.

    • Angela Cannings was jailed for life in 2002 for murdering her two baby sons, but freed the following year after her conviction was overturned on appeal. Cannings from Salisbury, Wiltshire, was convicted of murdering seven-week-old Jason in 1991, and 18-week-old Matthew in 1999. She always maintained the two boys died of Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (Sids) or cot death.

    • The solicitor Sally Clark was jailed for murdering her two baby sons, and cleared by the appeal court in 2003. The mother, from Wilmslow, Cheshire, had always protested her innocence since being jailed for life in November 1999. She was convicted of smothering 11-week-old Christopher in December 1996 and shaking eight-week-old Harry to death in January 1998. In 2007, she was found dead at her home. Her family said she had never recovered from the ordeal.

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  • Mind Ha, ha…9/10 of the time he has no clue what he is talking about..steupppsss.

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  • Aren’t convicted criminals not entitled to work in Barbados or should they be ostracised till death do them part;
    And if so what purpose is the rehabilitation program in prison supposed to serve?
    Shouldn’t those willing to offer employment to these offenders who have already paid their due be commended?

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  • Charles Skeete the answer is yes however the conversation has gone passed your obvious intervention. We are trying to connect Prescod and Moore which has Herbert has a common factor.

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  • The connect is quite easy…Moore worked for Herbert and found himself taking a fall for guns…and according to the nation article was nearly nabbed with a shipman of drugs…and according to people who know, was never involved with guns before then, the dude is well known to be no saint, but guns were just not his thing..and according to those who know, was represented by the Mottley law firm…of course Piece will find that out soon enough..lol

    Prescod worked until last week for Goddards/Herbert and is being greased to take the fall for this shipment of drugs…this is no coincidence, accident, anomaly..miracle, nothing so.

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  • Charles missed the part of the Lord’s Prayer that reads “And lead us not into temptation”, rehabilitation is great but wasn’t there another role that he could fill at GEL? It is honourable to give people second chances but it is not wise to put them in the same area that got them into trouble in the first place. This is not a statement on the guilt or innocence of anyone but there will be the inevitable “Once a thief……”

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  • When men or women leave prison, they are entitled to leave with skills that can fast track them to employment..self or otherwise, they having served TIME for mistakes should not hinder them from living a productive life, there are those who leave prison in other jurisdictions with masters and Ph.Ds and when released teach at universities and other lucrative, high paying jobs..

    They should not have to leave prison and seek out untouchable gun runners and drug traffickers for employment to end up in the same boat in the future…

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  • And when ya see Enuff ain’t jumping out to attack me and tell me about Rolerick Hinds M.P….ya done know..hahaha!!

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  • Jeff,

    Routine. They are news in the UK because they are a very small proportion of the daily criminal trials. The cases you list stretch over 65 years – 1953, 1973, 1975, 1985, two in 2002, 2003 and 2005. You could have mentioned the murder of Rachel Nickell in 1992.
    Sally Clark in 2003 was jailed on so-called expert evidence, now discredited; I reported on the Silcott case, he was convicted, then released because the police wanted someone to pay the price for the murder of a colleague, Keith Blakelock, Barry George was a clear miscarriage of justice. I reported on the Broadwater Farm riots and on the Silcott case and covered the court case.
    A far better bet, if you really wanted to make a case, would have been the number of young black men railroaded by the criminal justice system. I remember covering a case of a Bajan guy accused of killing two white girls and he was convicted and jailed for 25 years. I sat throughout that case and I am convinced he was not convicted on the evidence presented in court. Miscarriages are also the other way, people released who should have been convicted.
    Or even look at the current crisis within the system of the prosecution with-holding information from the defence. I suggest you look at the numerous rape cases the DPP has just had to drop. Google Liam Allan, a white lad accused of rape.
    The UK is not perfect, especially when it comes to black people, but at least they have a criminal cases review commission to look at historic miscarriages of justice.

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  • SS ……..raised nearly a dozen kids none were ever in jail or ever in remand …..how about in a circus

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  • I am sure those who are paying attention will notice that Adrian Moore – Manager at Redlands Plantation which is owned by Charles Herbert has not had his case started.

    He was charges in 2013.This is August 2018.

    We are now here 5 years on and wondering if the same thing will happen to the Moore case as happened to the muslim,indian guy Esuf Adam – son of S.Y.Adam, where the file could not be found.

    Commissioner Tyronne Griffith how you think that looks on you Sir?

    Secondly I am watching to see when the case of the Ispector John Annel – who I think was head of the unit that dealt with ammunition etc – when will that case start.

    Come November Herbert case will be postponed until May or June 2019,and so it will be, until it disappears from the system or the files cannot be found.That is,unless our girl with nuff ‘Balls’ – DPP Donna Babb start from now to protect her information in multiple copies.

    Now if Mia really want something to do she should start by bringing serious reform to the Bar Association (and don’t involve her cousin David simmons in it).This is something that the poor people – who she tells -“Mia Cares” – are really crying out for.She can also start by looking at that matter with George Payne.

    She can start by putting an end to these numerous requests for postponement by lawyers and police prosecutors too.Deal with that like yesterday.

    Get retired judges to come back and sit in special courts to speed up the number of cases.Hiring 3 judges as ‘smiley marshall – A.G. is suggesting will not be enough.

    Give better renumeration to the men and women in the police force and remove them from civilian duties.Make a career in the Police Service to be an attractive option and lengthen the Career ladder.

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  • Who is responsible for the scheduling of cases in the Barbados Courts?

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  • What a fine bunch though..

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  • Office of the Registrar…there are people responsible for setting dates by working with the judges, but when the lawyers force these cases to delay and adjourn, after 2 years the judges are reassigned to assizes and if a new judge takes the case another run around the mulberry bush with wicked lawyers for another two years until that judge is reassigned…and so the cases never end.

    They are now scrambling to get court dates because the lawyers have all these cases in limbo, since before the court closed in April people were not getting dates, people have cases 10 months a year, over a year, no court date, most have not had a court appearance since last year.

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  • @BUW
    Calling someone ignorant does not make you smart.

    Here are three more lessons:
    “He who knows not and knows not …. ”
    “Never argue with a fool. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.” –Mark Twain
    “As far as possible, without surrender, be on good terms with all persons. Speak your truth quietly and clearly. And listen to others, even to the dull and the ignorant, for they too have their story. Avoid loud and aggressive persons, for they are vexatious to the spirit.”

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  • David

    Just received a whatsapp saying a former Minister has been indicted in the US for money laudering! It is alleged that he took bribes from a Barbados insurance company. Today is a funny night. I hope nobody calls for him to be “locked to @#4% up!”

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  • Yes, will post shortly.

    On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 11:10 PM, Barbados Underground wrote:

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  • I wonder if the jackass Ac will go after Donville like how she already procecute Herbert….This is too funny……i will watch how she contorts to prove his innocence. The next few weeks will show the height of her hypocrisy.

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  • Another HC old boy in the news.

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  • So..which insurance company is this…and when will the bribers in this insurance company be arrested in Barbados for bribery, corruption and money laundering..

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  • google ” ex-Barbados minister charged in United States “

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  • “The 52-year-old Inniss was released on a $50,000 bond after appearing in Tampa federal court. His lawyer did not immediately respond to a message seeking comment.

    Prosecutors say Inniss conspired to accept $36,000 in bribes from high-level executives of a Barbados-based insurance company in 2015 and 2016. They say he laundered the money in the U.S.

    They also say he helped the company obtain government contracts.”

    50,000 dollar bond for a 36,000 dollar bribe, wonder when he gets charged with more bribery, money laundering, what the bond will then look like.

    …, no wonder exyardfowl been so scarce and quiet all day….the others must be running for cover..lol

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  • Caswell Franklyn

    Well Well

    The insurance company is ICBL. This matter was in the works for a while and it is my understanding that the CEO lost her job over that some time ago.

    Sent from my iPad

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  • Caswell Franklyn

    Well Well

    Trust me there are more but the wheels of justice move slowly.

    Sent from my iPad

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  • No not running from nothing. When yuh lie down with dogs yuh bound to get up with fleas
    Herbert made that clear when he hired and hob nob with known convicted drug dealers and for what purpose
    Now Herbert wants everyone to belive he squeeky clean
    If Herbert and his friends belive the whole world mek up of fools . he better pray that all the jury pool is made up.of them

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  • Caswell…got ya..

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    Whuloss…a fellow just leaves the RumShop for a few hours and whaplax…

    @ Peter Lawrence Thompson

    Thanks for the update in the matter of wunnuh.org.

    So you had it for a while and modified it late last month so that resolves that.

    I know that de ole man has said that the DLP is the very worst government Barbados has ever had.

    But I never though it was the most STUPID

    How could Pornville be incredibly stoopid…but then again all of dem should be given an award for their stoopidity.

    Well there goes his aspirations for Prime Ministership

    I predict that Verla Depeiza will be the DLP new leader

    Heheheheh

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  • Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right

    On a not so related note.

    De ole man has noted that this article with almost 1,000 blogs has found itself listed

    (a) as the 16th blog article in the list

    (b) is no longer among the “Recent Posts”

    (c) and as regards that 16th position, at 2.59 a.m. Barbados time, the blog article seems to have disappeared completely from that home page that lists all of the Articles

    Just noticing these things because of “THE ANOMALIES” ting heheheheheh

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  • Let us return to good journalism. The media should stake out Charles Herbert from midnight tonight, a reporter and photographer, both at his home and at the police station. Get him signing in before 10am as required by his bail conditions. Keep the pressure on Herbert.
    GEL should also be put under pressure. Ask them when are they going to suspend Mr Herbert as chairman, failing which they should sack him. If they do not, then talk to the big investors in GEL, ask them if they are happy to be invested in a company in which the chairman is charged with drug smuggling.
    Then go to their big clients, not the local offices, but their HQ ie the airlines, and tell them that one of their service providers has been charged with drug smuggling in Barbados, do they want to be associated with that? Then take all your information to the tabloids in the UK, British Airways would not be able to withstand such publicity.
    Then, finally, get a member of parliament to ask questions in parliament.

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  • Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right

    @ Peter Lawrence Thompson

    All of the EXIF data has been cleaned from the image.

    Do a read on NSA XKeyscore to understand what EXIF data is and what is the role of Mia’s Charles Long

    So that means that the images were supplied by the Police and then cleaned by a specific intermediary BEFORE BEING CIRCULATED to the internet community and to you of course.

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  • Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right

    And among the recent ignominous memories that Barbados has acquired let us not forget this

    No matter how they will be begging the fourth estate represented by the ever vigilant Barbados Underground TO TEK DOWN CHARLES HERBERT AND CHRIS ROGERS & PRESCOD and Goddards Enterprises Yacht from being in the news

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  • Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right

    @ Moshe Dayan Sr and Jr. aka JB

    heheheheheheheh.

    Lef de ole man nephew Moshe nuh! heheheheheh

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  • The press must stake out Mr Herbert from midnight to 10am.

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  • lol..good one.

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  • Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right

    @ the Director of Public Prosecutions

    Is there an email for the Office of the DPP which IS NOT A CARIBSURF email or an email that is administered by Charles Jong of this new BLP administration?

    Even a gmail address which you would provide here on Barbados Underground

    This way, if a feller wants to reach out to you such can be done WITHOUT COMPROMISING somebody

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  • “Whether or not he is found guilty, his career is over. He has been tainted by these charges. He will not be able to hold any position of trust [again]. He was one of the potential leaders of the DLP, but Donville is now written out of holding any position of trust in the DLP, guilty or not,” Barrow-Giles told Barbados TODAY.(Quote)

    Does this principle apply to Charles Herbert?

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ Hal Austin

    Hal

    I was here communing with the Spirit, a customary thing for one who loves my “opiate”, smile and thought of this Herbert matter a little more

    From Herbert’s perspective, be he innocent or guilty, his is going to be a campaign to get himself free.

    So too will be the objective of all his friends in his minority grouping.

    Third parties will fall into three groups

    The sheeple who don’t give a flying badword

    The reasonable and rational commenters who have insider information about his innocence or guilt

    And the sanctimonious better than thou crew who just adore a fight and join in.

    From Herbert’s point of view AS LONG AS YOU ARE NOT FOR HIM you are against him.

    So he and his owe his detractors no good will.

    That is normal.

    His fellow directors have given this some thought as well.

    If they have him resign that alone is tantamount to saying that he is guilty to the average bajan and compromises his matter beyond retraction.

    So, unlike other countries, even though some may know of his guilt, they are bound to leave this matter as it is and let it work out by the natural effluxion of time.

    Beyond the two of us commenting here don’t expect other parties to remark further on the drug importer trio.

    Note for example that Freedom Crier with all her talk about improving Barbados has made no remark about the scourge of drug importation and How, irrespective of how pretty the landscape is, will be for nought when everyone is a paro

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  • Can someone please explain the legitimacy of the journalistic decision not to cover the reporting from bail of the two businessmen accused of smuggling substantial quantities of drugs in to Barbados.
    As I understand it, they were granted conditional bail of Bds$400000 each, one condition that they surrendered their travel documents and report weekly to the nearest police station by 10am on Wednesdays.
    Was this a news event of sufficient importance to be covered by our two leading publications? Or is this further evidence of a failed state when gatekeepers censor what news readers are allowed to read.

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    How much money does the Goddard Group of companies and their affiliates read the white bajan community pay into the coffers of the Nation and Advocate and Barbados Today?

    Do you think it makes sense for them to pursue your version of investigative journalism and go and take one picture of Charles Herbert entering a police substation AND LOSING ALL DIS MONEY???

    The only way to pursue that avenue Hal is to do it yourself or pay a private eye to get some pictures for you

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  • For the same reason they knew about Donville Innis, ICBL and tax payers’ money but did not report on it. As if we don’t know that printing 30K news papers a day @ $2.00 a pop can’t maintain them. It’s those big money ads campaigns , thus the frivolously bull shit for journalism.

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  • Piece,

    If BU will do it I will pay the report and photographer. We have next week.

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  • Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right

    @ Hal Austin

    Hal

    That may “compromise” the Honourable Blogmaster

    Let me explain that verb compromise.

    For the most part The Old David of BU WHILE HE WILL REPORT ANY SUBSTANTIATED ISSUE THAT IS SUBMITTED HERE, he does not to the best of de ole man’s knowledge, take a personal stake in the activity itself.

    But I may be wrong about that but what I would concommittantly suggest is this.

    You can do three things

    1.Decide how much you are prepared to pay for a photograph BY ANYONE PROVIDING A PICTURE OF CHARLES HERBERT ENTERING OR LEAVING THE POLICE STATION DURING ANY SUCH CHECKIN

    2.Create a Paypal account which as you know should permit for the payment of said money to anyone in Barbados. THe transaction will be between you and them and I dont think that you AS A JOURNALIST will expose their identity

    3.De Grandson would help with a draft document for you and other parties to circulate via social media.

    You are not breaking any laws but you can be assured that the Commissioner of Police or some body else going mek some public notification bout it being illegal to tek pictures of accused drug importers.

    Btw the way, you also want pictures of Chris Rogers too right? I ent hear much mention of him and having him resign from his position as well.

    I wonder if Senator Caswell Franklyn could find out if Prescod is still employed at GEL heheheheheh though I doubt it cause after all Prescod is the MasterMind of this Importation scheme doan mind he ent got no surety as yet!

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  • Piece,

    Sorry. It was meant as a joke. I cannot even afford a cup of tea. Seriously, if you want to know roughly the source of a newspaper’s advertising revenue get hold of a copy, work out the editorial/advertising ratio, get hold of its advertising rates and do a rough calculation of the maths. It will not be accurate because paper’s do deals. That tells you who is advertising and, again, calculate it over a year. He who pays the piper calls the tune.

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  • Can someone say if Charles Herbert reported from bail?

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  • Herbert has stepped down as Chairman of GEL.

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  • Why do our leading newspapers satisfy themselves in publishing press releases instead of adding value to them? Is this what passes for good journalism? Why have they not reported on Mr Herbert reporting on bail yesterday? Why are readers satisfied with this paucity of competence?

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    I am reading this resignation online now.

    It says “…Goddard Enterprises Limited (GEL) has announced that A. Charles Herbert has voluntarily stepped down as chairman of the board of GEL with effect from August 7…”

    I…..

    De ole man is speechless and thrown for a loop by the action.

    And I will tell you why.

    He did not make any public hullabaloo on this action which was an option earlier in the exercise.

    De ole man would have used the first public appearance to resign both the Private Sector position as well as the Goddards position and throw oneself on the court of public opinion as opposed to the bluster and bravado.

    The interference being run by PLT and John the Quaker was crafted incorrectly.

    Now you have to contend with the court of public opinion saying thst you were pushed.

    You are being advised by some parties who are not ammm….

    John the Quaker is your friend and he understands how this works

    God sees the heart of all men Mr Herbert.

    How He wants this to end is always in His Hands so, having said, that the ole man who has seen the scourge that drugs bring to the most brilliant of minds, and how it ravages the most beauteous of forms, will leave thus matter to My Lord.

    Remember that He Lives and is LARGE and IN CHARGE

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ the Honourable Blogmaster your assistance please with an item that will be my last post for this trio of Herbert, Rodgers and Prescod.

    When you can see these things you will realize that they are in the Hands of My God now.

    No matter what is done by man’s hands the outcome is decided.

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  • NorthernObserver

    @PUDYR
    It is fairly standard for persons who serve in a nominated/elected position in business to confer with those who elected them, prior to making a decision. If CH was in an employee relationship, then it is all his decision whether he resigns or not. While this may infer to you being ‘pushed out’, that is always a risk if one follows the path of conferring with those who elected you. They may request you resign or leave the decision up to you. The counter is, if you were going to resign anyways, why confer? It is called the ‘polite chain of command’, because you may like to considered again down the road, if the charges do not result in a conviction.

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  • goddards still doing work that is good thing.

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  • God sees the heart of all men Mr Herbert.

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  • Herbert has stepped down as Chairman of GEL. Racial discrimination is not acceptable!

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  •         lol..good one.      
    

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  • What is the situation with Charles Herbert and his co-accused?

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  • Hal Austin
    March 29, 2019 12:26 PM

    What is the situation with Charles Herbert and his co-accused?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Which co accused, the one that is free on bail or the one that isn’t?

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