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  • pieceuhderockyeahright March 11, 2015 at 8:06 PM #
    @ Caswell and Walter Blackman
    “Upon what basis can our Guyanese Director of Public Prosecutions and our Commissioner of the Royal Barbados Police Force ACT ON ANYTHING contained in this Deloitte report??”

    Pieceuhderockyeahright,
    Our Guyanese Director of Public Prosecutions…something about that sounds not right, but I can’t quite put my finger on it.

    The CLICO debacle was no accident. It took a lot of planning, facilitation, and collusion among political parties, politicians, and government officials to siphon off almost ½ billion (this is a very conservative estimate) from the insurance company over the last 30 years.
    Personnel had to be carefully handpicked at CLICO itself, in the civil service, and in the government. Equally important, qualified persons with integrity had to be kept far far from critical decison-making positions. Politicians had to be bought and bribed. Elections had to be paid for. All of this was aimed at securing insurance against prosecution forever.

    Each day, as this saga unfolds, more and more of the innocence of Barbadian society gets destroyed. Some Barbadians, who are thinking for themselves, have already raced ahead to recognize that CLICO is just the tip of a national iceberg.The hard-earned money of Barbadian taxpayers has been receiving similar treatment for the last 30 years also.

    Upon what basis, can the Barbadian DPP and Commisioner of police act on anything contained in the report., you ask?

    At 11:42 a.m.on Decembert 30, 2008 the Prime Minister of Barbados, after discussing how to commit fraud against an insurance company, and after plotting to launder money for his client, decided to put the plot and plan into action by e-mailing a fraudulent invoice and leaving an electronic trace. 17 days later the targeted money was pounced upon and placed in a First Caribbean Bank account where it awaited extradition into Mr. Parris’ hands as laundered money.

    A first –year law student, at the bottom of the class, should be able, like Miller, to confidently link the dearly departed Prime Minister’s actions to the low hanging illegal fruit of fraud, tax evasion, and money laundering. Of course, David Thompson’s “living large” conspiratorial associates are just as guilty as he was.
    This evidence now provides an excellent opportunity for the DPP and the Commisioner of Police to strike. If they do, a guilty verdict is almost guaranteed.
    Barbadians know and understand that the criminals in this operation are clinging desperately to the “straws” of protection provided by some crooked members of the political class. Whereas no attempts have been made to defend the interests of policyholders at anytime, every opportunity has been seized to whitewash and portray the thieves as honest, talented, and hard-working citizens. We would therefore be naïve not to expect serious political pressure to be brought to bear on any organization which seeks to expose these miscreants.
    A dangerous game of no cops but proven robbers is now being played out right before our eyes. Will it end in an unexpected violent social upheaval, or will Leroy Parris drag down the political crooks with him and pave the way for a new and better Barbados?

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ Mr. Blackman

    Grateful for your response and those of others you categorically indicate that this is worthy of intervention by these “inert elements”

    My purposed “xenophobic” remark about our Director of Public Prosecution speaks to three things

    One. The normal attitude that we bajans have about (i) “low islanders”, (ii) other islanders (Guyana is no island) and of course (iii) people from ovah and away usually Amurica and Englant to whom we Bajans give special obeisance.

    Too, The DPP’s purported predilection to be lenient to criminals from certain countries or those of particular parentage

    Three. And, to repeat point number two, his disposition to things Nordish (Bjerkham)

    This and the fact that he has the proverbial shortman chip on his shoulder (I am a piece of midget myself and 5 ft 10 1/2 inches) who loves to hobnob with the rich and famous I ent got no problem with the indolent of spirit

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  • And we still boasting of Barbados being one of the least corrupt nation??? Many in this country will regard this as normal behaviour. I am surprised that the political class haven’t done all they can to bury this report.

    If the dead King was alive I wonder how he would have handled this??? Would we have reached this stage of discussion? Now I wonder why the Fumble and his gang going to do about this revelation? Do not be surprised that Mara and she children migrate to St. Lucia and send her resignation from there.

    The policy holders should file to take the assets of CLICO whatever they have in Barbados and elsewhere. They are too spineless! If this was Jamaica…….

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  • When will we see the seizure of David Thompson estate and Leroy Parris property? Who are the co conspirators in government department hiding Thompson will? Only yesterday a man got sentence for stealing sweet potatoes. John Nurse and the judges in Barbados should release all petty thieves if the DPP Charles Leacock and COP Griffith fails to take action. Failing action the people of Barbados should riot for justice for sometimes who have to destroy the rotten house to rebuild.

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  • Chris Sinckler the MOF who got a few suits and Parris wife breaking down Jaguar is not to be trusted. Fruendel as one of Parris former lawyers will use his proxies to stop the exposure of Parris and Thompson Money Laundering Scam.

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  • Parris also paid policemen protection money ask Leslie Haynes the lawyer who changed many cheques for Parris in the money laundering scam

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  • All the lawyers who worked for Parris facilitated money laundering I know what I saw but unfortunately I never took a picture of these cheques. Parris would randomly ask for a cheques to go to either one of his companies, his wife name or lawyer and he would get the cash or cheque in turn supported by an invoice.

    Ask Leslie Haynes about the handsome fees he got in turn for facilitating Leroy Parris and Duprey dirty deeds.

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  • @David

    I just read the article attached to “Parris Property” which reinforces my point about “tip of the iceberg”. If I follow Ms. Rayside’s statement the property at Westmoreland was pledged as collateral to BNB to prop up loans advanced to Rayside Co. When Rayside was on the verge of going “belly up” and CLICO stepped in as a “white knight” (perhaps I should say “black knight) to keep Rayside afloat somehow that portion of Rayside’s assets found its way into the lap of the CEO of CLICO. This is a top echelon “piggy bank “ operation at its finest , the fight against the seizure of the 3.3 m is opening more can of worms than expected, now they can’t unring that bell.

    I think the Brazillians are learning from us, a Brazillian formerly included as one of the richest in the world found himself underwater and the judge ordered the seizure of his assets including some very expensive cars, the judge ending up driving one of those cars, somehow I think that he must have heard of the Westmoreland land deal.

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/international-business/latin-american-business/brazilian-judge-in-eike-batistas-trial-caught-driving-seized-porsche/article23189320/

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  • @Sargeant

    Didn’t CLICO perform a similar heist on Plantations in Barbados?

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  • The facts as outlined in the JM’s report are clear cut evidence that fraud was committed against the insurance company.

    No wonder the Government through its agent. the FSC was seeking to have them suppressed. The claims to integrity of the Government are now in tatters for all to see. Its inaction and that of the DPP, given the revelations, amounts to collusion in the crime.

    Yet not a whimper from policy holders’ group ???????

    If the opposition does not demand justice and action against the perpetrators, it will be painted with the same dirty brush.

    The people are waiting to see justice raped again and privilege prevail.

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  • @ David

    Your report is missing appendix 3 which is an eye opener. Shows the related parties who got land in Crystal Court and Crystal Heights.

    The scope of what happened at that company is breath taking.

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  • are-we-there-yet

    Wunnah know where Mara moved to when the importunate St John people got too much to bear? Check Crystal Court that is relatively inaccessible to the St John plebs.

    David; when you gine get the full report with annexes?

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  • This one is for Douglas, he could write an article pun the DLP wed-site and call it:

    “Parris and Thompy’s Big Bag o blunders, Wunnuh Feel Duh Guilty?”

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  • The Bushman and Dr. Love………read and weep, read and weep, we are onto y’all, not to mention that’s the very topic of discussion in Barbados for some years now, including this very topic….lol

    https://sheriveronica.wordpress.com/2015/03/11/every-woman-every-child-beware-of-men-event/

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  • By the way the Bushman and Dr. Love, just remember when the two of you are answering me the witch with the broom, we can abort you, but you cannot abort us…..lol

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  • David
    I supporting AWTY.The Audit posted on BU is minus the appendices.Would you be so kind as to give us those attachments please.

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  • Clerk
    Leslie Haynes now got a massive property on Strathclyde Drive called Ellangowan formerly owned by the wealthy Wards of Strathclyde.Rumour has it that it was on the market for 2 million.
    You say Leslie used to launder money for Clico.All I can say is bet on that racehorse Follow de Money in the Gold Cup race sponsored by Clico.
    If Barrow and Tom were alive all like Leslie Haynes would be in Dodds Prisons or like Michael Simmons,can’t land in Barbados again.Waterman J saw to that.

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  • All of the disadvantaged CLICO policy holders and benfactors, and especially those who had their pensions cut from under thier feet, should get organised and march enmasse on the properties of these shameless daylight robbers and occupy their properties until some sort of restitution is made.
    Here we are , bleating and licking our chops about Reparation for acts committed over 180 years ago , but are unable to forcefully demand from these thieves and rogues what are rightfully ours,taken in the last few years.

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  • David

    Where are the appendix items to the CLICO report?

    Not good enough.

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  • You may find this published paper of interest:

    Click to access 20.pdf

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  • A sneek preview of the results of the Cadres Poll to be published in this weekend Sunday Sun shows:

    If General Elections were to be called now –

    The DEMs will win 21 seats
    Freundel Stuart will remain PM
    Barbadians are wary of Mottley’s……Wicker – ism.

    There you have it……..Dems NOW…Dems……AGAIN.

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ Colonel Buggy March 13, 2015 at 3:50 PM
    “Here we are , bleating and licking our chops about Reparation for acts committed over 180 years ago , but are unable to forcefully demand from these thieves and rogues what are rightfully ours, taken in the last few years.”

    Well said Colonel B. And to think that we are dealing not with the chosen and blessed white children of the Anglican god but the cursed black bastards of Satan posing as politicians, lawyers and insurance executives.

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  • A brave man claimed to me, that if they dug deeper, there is even more gold below.

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  • Pollster March 13, 2015 at 5:41 PM #

    Is that with or without Ipads and money?

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  • Dee Ingrunt Squared March 12, 2015 at 9:43 AM #

    Re ‘will to act’ , why do you think I said outside investigators. You think I want thing done after a few phone calls?

    Are we really willing to have people dig up the laundry?

    Like, how contracts are awarded. How folks get jobs?

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  • @ Crusoe

    Money and Ipads did not form part of the questionnaire.

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  • Pollster March 13, 2015 at 6:23 PM #

    In that case, I am worried. You mean, despite all that has occurred, Bajans endorse the situation.

    Ah well, remember what happened to Soddom and Gommorah?

    Go and buy your storm supplies early.

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  • Full document uploaded.

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  • A JA by any other name is still a JA.

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  • You can’t make this stuff up. Why didn’t Parris make the agreement available whe the audit was done? There is that man Thornhill’s name again.

    http://www.barbadostoday.bb/2015/03/14/not-her/

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  • David what kind of speckled fowl question is that ?
    why did the judicial managers in the report state an untruth ? that is the question?

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  • Why prepare an invoice for legal services if this document was available to verify payment of a gratuity?

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  • The challenge to the judges by Parris’ lawyers is interesting.

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  • the suspense surrounding this story would leave one to believe that a morbid attempt in collusion including political anarchist is in involved in the roots and heart of this matter with extraordinary influence to contaminate a process with the ultimate goal to persuade public opinion.
    This case is so seriously contaminated that in any other country it would be deemed necessary to seek alternative jurisdiction in pursuit of justice,

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  • Any comments about the Lawrence Duprey connection in the report?

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  • David why don’t you comment on the article in barbados today which supports evedience in contrary to the judicial managers report ,

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  • The Judicial Manager reported on a fake invoice against which payment by CLICO of $3.33m was made to Thompson Associates and paid into its Client Account at First Caribbean. Not sure what the difference the existence of a witheld contract for gratuities has to do with this case.

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  • @Bdosmike

    Correct, what we have to be sure to do is separate the political, legal and other arguments.

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  • Why is Mia and the other politicians so silent? The whole parliament is corrupt from the Clerk Of Parliament up. If only the whole parliament could just sink into the sea Barbados would be better off.
    June Fowler the fool head of BIPA needs to get of her lazy ass and lead the poor policyholders of Clico to picket Leroy Paris and his corrupt friends houses. If ever there was a time for civil disobedience its now for the 30 crooks in parliament dont care about us. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHr75yoxYCA

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  • All indications are that Madame Justice Cornelius is indeed an excellent representative of that position and has integrity.

    We are lucky to have her there.

    That said, I can see where the lawyers may object based upon her familial relationship to an Opposition spokesperson.

    However, this case is clearly headed to CCJ and when it does, the conclusions reached on the Clico affair in Barbados, for ALL to see, will be interesting.

    One wonders what inferences the CCJ will draw on the ‘Barbados’ business system.

    And no wonder then, that certain Gov’t spokespersons have begun pre-emptive wordings re the CCJ.

    Ha.

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  • Interesting, so monies still at CIBC? Scotia does not hold funds anymore. The way it is written they ensured that they were clear of the funds.

    I wonder why that is??

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  • today is going to be interesting on bu as the gravy train of commentators flying high on fake documentation used the intellectual forensic prowess to vilify and mud sling on documentation provided in the barbados today article with sufficient proof,

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  • Comments using the moniker MOF deleted; aka ac.

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  • @ David

    We are surprised that ac would think she has the mind to be two people at the same time. Based on her writings we were never been persuaded that her abilities, as they are, extended to those ranges. LOL

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  • David

    There maybe a possibility that a proper investigation, a general or criminal investigation, will discover tapes of conversations made by Parris, in his offices and elsewhere.

    We know of one instance where a meeting was surreptitiously recorded and then played back to Duprey, the master of Parris. We are minded that this method of operation could have been generalized. For Parris was no more than a tool in the hand of his master. Therefore a wider criminal net should have been long casted

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  • so david instead of putting the focus where it does not matter on ac .. why don’t you pursue an avenue to persuade comments that the documentation provided in the media is skewed .
    btw removing MOF limited comments shows your desire to intimidate through censoring,

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  • Pachaman have you found out who was the man standing on the “grassy knoll when JFK was shot,,?

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  • @ ac

    You have been caught surreptitiously injecting comments into this debate and you now have the temerity, the unmitigated gall, as a guilty person, instead of being contrite, could now, with a straight face, talk about censorship. Lord have mercy!

    Have you no shame, no honour!

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  • Is Hal Gollop QC so desperate? If one of our “prominent” attorneys could so shmelessly spin, I guess ac could s well. Note Gollop refuses to comment on the invoice. lol

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  • @PAcha

    If an individual is honest at the core it most oft than not will manifest in their every action.

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  • Posted by Caswell to the wrong blog:

    Submitted on 2015/03/14 at 8:57 AM | In reply to David.

    By the same type of lopsided reasoning being used to require Madam Justice Cornelius to recuse herself from Parris’ case, Hal Gollop should recuse himself from presiding over any matter that involving the Stuart administration at the Employment Rights Tribunal. He questions the closeness of Ralph Thorne, who commented on the Parris affair, to the judge. Likewise, I question the closeness of Hal Gollop to the Prime Minister who has commented and has given instructions on matters that are before Hal’s tribunal.

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  • @Sargeant March 12, 2015 at 9:11 AM “Why didn’t the JM go to Court to compel Ms. Haynes to testify? Seems that she was at the centre of some decisions including the issuance of the fateful cheque and her input would be valuable since they were missing a massive amount of communications including Mr. Parris’ emails etc.”

    Missing emails should not be a problem. We are used to thinking of our email communications as private. In fact they are not. The judicial manager should have got a court order to search CLICO, David Thompson, and Leroy Parris emails. the search need not be carried out at their premises. The search warrant should be directed at their internet service provider. It probably would not hurt to search Mara Thompson’s emails too.

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  • @ David

    People will from time to time try a thing. But Lord, when these small infractions are discovered the thing to do is to plead guilty and apologize, not double down.

    If ac cannot be trusted in these small matters, things that everybody here would let pass, then we have to ask ourselves whether anything she has ever said here has any validity, truthfulness, honesty.

    Why risk any modicum of respect, still left, to misguide a discussion in which there is much interests.

    All told, a very dark personality emerges.

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  • It is not by accident archives pre 2006 the auditors had difficulty constructing. It would be interesting to know the policy for recycling email/server space etc.

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  • @Pacha

    Leave the oversight of the blog to the BU household, we have been at it long enough to know how to manage these situations. Nobody can accuse us of not being lenient.

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  • I have a relative who worked in this field from the beginning of the email revolution. The police came all the time with proper search warrants given by the court and searched the emails of Mr. X or Ms. Big.

    Of course all this time the suspected criminals have no idea that the court has given permission to search up their place, that is their place which rests in the hands of their internet service provider.

    Some of these Mr. X’s and Ms. Big’s were suspected of murder, fraud, and criminal association (read real, real, real life Mafiosi), some were shady politicians etc.

    A good number of these people were successfully prosecuted, successfully convicted and jailed.

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  • LOL @ David
    There was no need to delete MOF…. it was obvious that it was ac…..
    Cuh dear you MUST understand how SHAME dem would have to be at this time…
    LOL….Bushie would be shame as shiite to show his face too..ha ha ha

    ….besides… who else in this whole world could sound so illiterate and retarded?

    Shiite man…. AC must be related to the fellow Ram Baran from Ras Hola Bad (Rosoolabad) in Uttar Pradesh who loss out on marrying a lovely girl when she asked him to add 15 and 6 …….
    LOL ….he got 17 and lost Ms Lovely…… ha ha ha oh shirtttt ..
    (Groom fails Maths test, Barbados today, page 32)

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  • @Crusoe March 14, 2015 at 8:16 AM “And no wonder then, that certain Gov’t spokespersons have begun pre-emptive wordings re the CCJ.”

    Understand that intelligent people take Donville’s silly mouthings re the CCJ for exactly what they are, silly mouthings.

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  • @islandgal246 March 13, 2015 at 6:49 AM “And we still boasting of Barbados being one of the least corrupt nation? Do not be surprised that Mara and she children migrate to St. Lucia and send her resignation from there.”

    Both Mara and her corrupt husband were foreigners. They were never down to earth, honest to goodness Bajans.

    We would be glad if Mara, and her children, and her children’s children move to St. Lucia and never, ever come back to Barbados.

    We can’t wait to see the back of this woman.

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  • @Bushie

    What prompted the bride to apply the test? She obviously should have known why wait.

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  • An honest to goodness, down to earth Bajan woman does call back she husband, she son, or she man when she see that he going wrong.

    She don’t smile up in he face at he wrong doings.

    And if the man is she husband or she man, she does cut off he pleasures until he come right.

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  • @ David
    You know the arrangement in those jurisdictions (and bout here too yuh) where arrangements are made by parents without the subjects meeting…..
    Bushie suspects that the Bride reads BU and realized that AC have some unaccounted family…..so just to be sure she applied the test…. 🙂

    …also it appears that the man just plain looked dumb…

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ Caswell Franklyn March 14, 2015 at 8:57 AM

    One thing about you Caswell, is that you are able to sniff out that rat of hypocrisy from as far up as Marchfield down to Ilaro Court. Putting his buddy Hal in charge of the ERT is like appointing his pal Leroy Parris as chairman of the Financial Services Commission.

    What was shallow lying Hal trying to prove when he appeared on DLPTV to publicly plead a case of Leroy’s entitlement and innocence to any fraudulent activity when other related matters involving his client were before the courts?
    A preemptive strike against the criminally ‘implicitus’ contents of the Forensic report
    to build a tarnished case for an unfair trial since his client has already been found guilty in the public’s eyes?

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  • @ Bushie

    There is now a law against you killing people, with laughter! LOL

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  • are-we-there-yet March 13, 2015 at 9:44 AM “Wunnah know where Mara moved to when the importunate St John people got too much to bear? Check Crystal Court that is relatively inaccessible to the St John plebs.”

    There is no place in Barbados that is inaccessible.

    Just tell the St. John people to come to Bridgetown, walk to the Princess Alice busstand opposite the fish market and catch a Rock Hall or Rock Dundo Transport Board bus. Get off at the bus stop right after the Warrens gas station, walk slightly ahead, turn left, walk up the hill and Crystal Heights is on your left . From St. John to Crystal Court is $4 Barbados and about 2 hours that’s all. A yellow Rock Dundo bus also travels the same route. The yellow Rock Dundo bus also departs from the Princess Alice bus-stand.

    Rich people with SUV’s don’t need any instructions form me, they can use Google and or their GPS.

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  • @ Simple Simon
    …stop talking shiite do!!
    What honest to goodness Bajan woman what?
    why don’t you go long to the Market nuh???

    A man bringing in $$$millions; is a big-up politician and lawyer; and red too boot…?
    Steupsss….
    Wuh If he did just smile at you ….you would probably have added another one to your famous list of Ex-lovers…..
    steupsss

    Bajan women just bout dollars…..
    And if the man is she husband or she man, she does cut off he pleasures until he come with some MONEY…..

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  • We didn’t get to see the MOF comments made by the hand of AC.

    Any sharp person can detect a person’s writing, based on style, word usage, syntax, etc.

    Writing is like fingerprinting, DNA.

    This is within the scope of considerations the intelligent agencies look for in the very best spies, the master spies. It’s a most difficult skill for writing comes from within, is based on feelings, a range of emotions, one history, exposure, etc. Maybe MOF and AC made similar mistakes, typographical. A fingerprint!

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  • @Bush Tea March 14, 2015 at 10:30 AM “AC must be related to the fellow Ram Baran from Ras Hola Bad (Rosoolabad) in Uttar Pradesh who loss out on marrying a lovely girl when she asked him to add 15 and 6 …….
    LOL ….he got 17 and lost Ms Lovely…… ha ha ha oh shirtttt ..
    (Groom fails Maths test, Barbados today, page 32)”

    My friend who lives in (Rosoolabad) in Uttar Pradesh told me that the groom took one look at the prospective bride, and she was no Ms. Lovely, and decided he did not want a life sentence with her, so he deliberately gave the wrong answer.

    He and David Thompson and a lotta wunna men tricky so.

    LOL!!!!

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  • Other than posters on BU, many Bajans (I would even hazard a guess and suggest that most Bajans) seem unperturbed even uninterested in the CLICO revelations or any matter of presumed public importance. Is it the calm before the storm or do BU commentators have it wrong?

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  • @Bush Tea March 14, 2015 at 10:48 AM “why don’t you go long to the Market nuh???”

    Lef’ home at 4:30 for market. Dun do a day’s work before you roll over at almost 11 o’clock.

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  • Bushie
    We can’t wait to read your rejoinder, to Simple Simon. He may have yuh! LOL

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  • So let’s see this thing about judges recusing themselves or lawyers demanding that certain judges recuse themselves from hearing Parris matters.
    Recall Hal Gollop was fully supportive of Freundel’s change of the Laws of Barbados to make it possible for an American based judge to be made CJ of Barbados.
    Now read between the lines.Gollop is Stuart’s bosom buddy.Gollop is Parris’s legal adviser.Gibson is CJ thanks to Stuart and Gollop.Gollop finding fault with every Judge hearing Parris’s matters.He has a plan and we can see thru it like ESA Fields strong white!

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  • @ Pacha
    It is really “Simple Simone” and she would know the true story cause she ain’t “simple” at all….
    Just like Ms. Lovely may not be lovely..
    …and Onions may not be no poor-boy…
    …but the fella’s family was trying a thing to get the rid ‘o him…. LOL

    However…. you can rest assured that AC is shame as shiite….
    …gotta be….

    @ Ping Pong
    Bajans seem unperturbed even uninterested in the CLICO revelations or any matter of presumed public importance…..
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    So wait boss man…..
    Ya mean a bright fella like you ….and you still cannot grasp the concept of a brass bowl…?
    Which part do you not get…..?
    …a big, rusty, lazy, useless empty vessel – capable of making nuff noise, accepting all kinds of shiite and piss, and waiting around in the hope that some stranger will pass by and polish it for a while…..

    Brass bowls don’t do “Perturbed and interested”…. even those whose life savings, pensions and sweat are being shown to have been plundered by shameless pirates…

    No wonder that AC is shame as shiite…..

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  • St George's Dragon

    So the ac collective (including MOF) wants us to accept that production of the signed letter and resolution makes everything ok. Well it doesn’t.
    1. Why was the signed resolution not found by the JM in CLICO’s own papers?
    2. As it has been miraculously produced now, what evidence is there that it is not a forgery?
    3. The resolution does not appear to be signed by Vishnu Ramlogan, although a signature may be too faint to see. If it is not signed, is it a binding resolution?
    4. Why did our Prime Minister, while in office, raised a bogus invoice presumably with the intention of extracting money under false pretences for his friend Parris.
    5. Why did David Thompson keep some of the money resulting from the false billing.
    6. Why did a number of CLICO directors buy, then sell on to CLICO a piece of land and make $5 million on the deal?
    The real problem the public have with these transaction is not only whether they are criminal acts, but whether they are morally acceptable. A director of a failed company is exposed as earning huge amounts of investors money in dubious circumstances. When it looks as though the shit is going to hit the fan, he acts with indecent haste to launder money out of the company and into his own account. The public recognises a lack of morality when it sees it.

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  • @ Gabriel
    You is a fella that know nuff things….
    …where this Gollop fella come from all of a sudden?
    wuh it look like he suddenly appear when Froon had his sleeping position elevated to PM.
    Gollop suddenly became a CBC consultant – making much ado weekly (and weakly) about simple obvious laws; then BAM…. just so…he is a QC and getting big wuk and big money….
    But NOTHING he does comes across as creative – or even well thought out…
    No wonder the CCJ president has been so insulting and dismissive….

    What then…..?
    …is this some kind of latent talent or wuh?
    ..a man ahead of his time…?
    ..or a monkey dat climb too high up – and now got all o’ he tail exposed….?

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  • @ David who wrote “The challenge to the judges by Parris’ lawyers is interesting.”

    It is called “strategy”

    If there is any link between Sagicor and Clico another Judge may have to recuse himself.

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  • @ Hants
    Strategy….?
    It is called shiite…

    If Bushie was in Judge Cornelius’s shoes Gollop’s ass would be held in contempt (and shortly located up Dodds) for casting aspersions on Bushies honourable ass….
    The man has NO CLASS.

    Imagine he uses HIS obvious ties to Freundel and Parris to get himself up high in every shiite – INCLUDING the ERT, and, after attracting the contempt of no less a court than the CCJ, got the unmitigated gall to come suggesting that this Judge cannot be unbiased because she is married to a BB?

    If the Judges allow these sleezeballs to intimidate them ….or allow the PM’s school mate (who left New York to come here to sleep on Justice) to frustrate this case then they ain’t worth what Paddy shot at….

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  • RE Gabriel March 14, 2015 at 11:21 AM #
    So let’s see this thing about judges recusing themselves or lawyers demanding that certain judges recuse themselves from hearing Parris matters.
    Recall Hal Gollop was fully supportive of Freundel’s change of the Laws of Barbados to make it possible for an American based judge to be made CJ of Barbados.
    Now read between the lines.Gollop is Stuart’s bosom buddy.Gollop is Parris’s legal adviser.Gibson is CJ thanks to Stuart and Gollop.Gollop finding fault with every Judge hearing Parris’s matters.He has a plan and we can see thru it like ESA Fields strong white!

    ARE YOU THEN SAYING THAT GOLLOP IS TRYING TO GET GIBSON TO HEAR THE MATTER AND GIVE A FAVORABLE JUDGMENT ON BEHALF OF PARRIS JUST AS THE WELL KNOWN COLLUSION IN THE 90’S THAT USED TO OCCUR WITH A CERTAIN JAMAICAN LAWYER AND A CERTAIN WATER MAN IN THE DIVORCE COURTS?

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  • But Bushie

    There is an issue here. An issue of inbreeding. An issue overtly present when David Simmons and his wife were in positions which could have been susceptible to the absence of ‘justice’, collusion.

    That a man could sleep with a woman, or vice verse, and get up next morning and pretend that judgments cannot be clouded by other considerations, is difficult to believe.

    This is one of the problems with smallness, it supports a culture of social inbreeding . Inbreeding limit progress, alters otherwise good decisions, etc

    Some may want to pretend this is normal, but we beg to differ! And both the people here involved, this writer considers to be good friends, but we would prefer that justice must also be seen to have been done. Without a reliance on the absence of personal moral turpitude. This is virtually impossible where familial relationships are involved, far less more, husband and wife!

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  • Enough on CLICO there is a developing story at the Boatyard its in the news again with questions about their legal title to beach land. Commisiong who is blowing hot and cold of late questioned the legality of the Boatyard warning patrons not to do business with jet ski operators. These matters can be resolved with a dash of tolerance and a pinch of common sense. Do the Boatyard bullies have it in them to mix that cocktail of calm.

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  • Come on Pacha
    Husband and wife shiite….
    Wuh the Thorne man has nothing to do with it…. he just talked some shiite a few weeks ago… Not like he is a party to the matter.

    You well know that justice is meant to be served by DUE PROCESS, and not by personal feelings… That is why AC is not a judge.

    A competent judge would find his damn wife guilty if DUE PROCESS ruled the day and her ass was guilty. This place is too small to start excluding professionals due to familiarity. Wuh Bushie know practically all the lawyers bout here except for Froon and Gollop (LOL ..wonder why?) …and yet would not hesitate to lock up any one of the french connectors (UK) …..especially Ross… 🙂

    You ain’t hear John say that all o we is family anyhow…? shiite man …. soon there would be no trials at all…

    In a proper society, DISCIPLINE is administered as a means of correction, by those who CARE and LOVE the subject of the discipline. Even if a judge shows bias then there are steps that can be taken for recourse…. Looka good parents are able to discipline their OWN children – who they would die for….

    Your argument speaks volumes about your thoughts on the quality of our judges and overall justice system….

    How then does a DLP government then administer justice to BLP supporters?
    How does a Catholic judge dispense justice to a Morman?
    …a black judge to a white accused?

    Face it…
    Gollop want locking up….

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  • But Bushie

    That is why we need to have tighter controls

    If in the heat of passion wufless Ralph Thorne makes certain ‘demands’. Who knows what could happen! He may have the ability to make the judge say yes! Or promise certain things, why in the other court! LOL

    This is why the public utterances of connected parties could be insightful in making these determinations. And why the country should avoid the appearance of impropriety.

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  • Bushie
    Hartford Chambers is the location of the law practice of Gollop and Stuart,so they are partners so to speak.Gollop had a few challenges to his pleadings recently with the CCJ,the Barefoot Priest and the Parris Seal-the-JR. Now in yesterday’s press he is expressing the opinion that Parris work for 30 years so he is entitled to claim ownership of millions of policyholders funds.Not a defence at all but there you are.

    GP
    If in your scenario,the judgement favours Gollop’s client,the CCJ would most likely have the final say.Then all the doo doo will hit the fan and all the policy,pension and Flexi investors should insist upon the engagement of Lawrence Maharaj to hold a brief on their behalf.He got the goods on Clico.

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  • and even if what david say i true pertaining to MOF comments .where does it state in the BU comments policy thst use of multiple monikers would be monitored or disallowed. needless to say that david is using every possible tactic by way of interference to limit views that are not in agreement with BU popular opinion on this topic..

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  • BU agrees aspersions on Judge Cornelius’ integrity must not be tolerated. If Madame Justice does not believe she should try the case of the lot on the bench we believe she is the one.

    @Ping Pong

    There is a reason BU is part of the fifth column or alternative media, our opinions and arguments are not located in mainstream.

    On 14 March 2015 at 18:04, Barbados Underground wrote:

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  • But David

    This does not reach the level of aspersions on the Judge.

    But the matter of the appearance of justice, the absence of insider dealings. When related parties are making political or legal arguments that have to do with particular cases.

    We are not asking for any special rule for this or any other judge. We are saying the system is not well served when possible conflicts of interests are so blatant.

    It seems, in Barbados, every time you see a need for a radical change forces fight tooth and nail to re-establish the status quo.

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  • Pacha
    You have a good point, but we have to be careful that crooks are not allowed to juck out our eyes with such points.
    It has always been the role of the JUDGES to make such determinations after respectful and modest motions from counsel.
    This lotta shiite of him running to the press playing PR games must stop….
    …first telling us how poor Parris getting unfaired …how the CCJ judges are idiots ….and now which high court judge suit him and which don’t….
    …sounding just like his useless, sleepy mate….

    …dat is why he damn face look so hard…. 🙂

    If he is a man let him go and talk shiite ’bout Worrell…..

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  • But Bushie

    We are the people if we had our own way, would hang all the lawyers, without a trial! We believe they were all born guilty of something. LOL

    While we wholeheartedly agree with. We are not sure that the informal way these matters have been dealt with, in the past, is sufficient in a techno age.

    However, knowing the parties involved, as friends, we would prefer to leave the system as is if the only other option is to do harm.

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  • John Hanson 1781-1782- I SERVE 1788- 1792 BARBADOES.

    Each day, as this saga unfolds, more and more of the innocence of Barbadian @

    It will unfold for a long time , until we remove the dlp and blp , both sides , BOTH SIDES are knee deep in this , All of them know of it and all the lawyer in this land fraud ponzi NEWS blocking government have to go,

    We hope that Bajan are not that stupid to vote back in any one of these bitches,

    We say Ask the United States to have the F.B.I to give them a clean slate or Scotland Yard a clean bill of crime to allow any of them to run for office or even Vote,
    Do not play with any of these snakes for they will bite us all again , Near 30 years of crooks,liars and scumbags stepping and sliding all over the World .
    Laundering , taking , in every nasty fraud way,

    Their is a bigger picture so dont let them give you part by part so you dont get the big picture,

    Massive land fraud ,LAND TAX NUMBERS WERE TRANSFER , BUT NO LAND WAS CONVEY, CLEAR TITLE DEED ARE FIRST , THEN LAND TAX BILLS,
    WHEN GOING TO COURT , THE CROOK ASS JUDGES JUST WANT TO KNOW WHO PAID THE TAXES , FOR THEY ALREADY KNOW THE LAND TITLES ARE NOT CLEAR,

    IADB TOOK BACK 60MM IN 2013 AND NOW 160MM IN 2015 FOR THEY HAVE NO RECORDS OF BLACK ROCK PLANTATION, GARDEN OR EVEN BRITTION’S HILL PLANTATION , THIS IS WHY MIA AS AG NEED TO BE IN JAIL FOR SHE HAVE 5 DEAD PEOPLE ON HER HANDS,
    DONT BE A SUCKER ,, VOTE NEXT TIME ,, THE C.U.P

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Coalition-of-Unified-Parties-Hon-Alex-MitchellEl-President/427129324101550

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  • @Pacha

    Do you believe there is any Judge in Barbados who is/was not negatively affected by Clico and by extension Parris.

    Pack of JAs!

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  • A government which cloaked itself in a cloak of integrity and we have this…

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  • @ David

    Yes, there was a cadre of people, especially the upwardly mobile, which never wanted anything to do with CLICO or Parris, knew about the internal shenanigans, long time. Ask any of their past agents.

    The company was largely a bottom feeder!

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  • quote ”David March 14, 2015 at 8:41 AM # @Crusoe Why should Madame Cornelius excuse herself? Is it because she has demonstrated she has ‘balls’?

    The same consideration to support the Justice recusing herself does it extend to Mara the wife of a thief and her current role as deputy speaker and MP? Yes we have to delineate the legal and moral arguments.” end quote

    Well, ‘it is reported’ that her husband openly criticized the matter at hand, ‘justice must not only be done, but be seen to be done’. No aspersions on the excellent and Honourable Justice. But, a simply basic legal principle.

    On the second matter. Heck yes, M.Thompson, representative for St.Thomas, should sure resign from Parliament. Heck YES!

    Only the blatant yardfowl or the complete idiot would say otherwise.

    It is so obvious, why are we even discussing it?

    That said, let us discuss. My own opinion is that this will only get worse, as the case evolves. Actually I think she should do so, for HER own good, rather than be dragged through the media mud on this over the next few years?

    Surely her colleagues are begging her to stay, due to the predicament that would occur if she resigns, constitutionally.

    But, maybe if they get Own to vote with them, they can regain the St.John seat.

    Go and beg Mr.Barrow son to run in the stead. That would be my move.

    Except, I can see the opposition from within the DLP on THAT.

    All the noses out of joint, that a new future leader hath come forth…. hahahaha

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  • getting the overwhelmingly public to belive that LP and DT single handily orchestrated the collapse of Clico is going to be a hard sale given the ongoing controversial conflicting evedience

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  • AC

    Your renewed MOF post just confirmed the harsh judgment of Bushie!

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  • All MOF comments will be deleted and if continued IP blocked. Last warning

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