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The following comment was posted by local microbiologist Dr. Robert Lucas to another blog – Bajans Jettison Social Distancing for Cheek by Jowl. The blogmaster regards it as one of the most important points shared on Barbados Underground since the status of COVID 19 was elevated by Prime Minister Mia Mottley.

David, Barbados Underground

Let me repeat what I have stated elsewhere on the Blog.

The curfew has to rigorously enforced. Once this is done, there is no need for contact tracing. I will explain.

Those who manifest symptoms are easily managed. It is person Z who comes into contact with a person (asymptomatic or beginning to show signs) and is unaware of the fact, who poses the immediate threat. By having the curfew and rigidly enforcing it, means that person Z is localized to a fixed area.

There will be more than one person who qualifies for the nomenclature Z. Since the curfew is rigidly enforced when the Zs become ill and use the hotline, hot spots are known. There will be a number of these hot spots. There should be isolated and all persons in the vicinity of the Z’ screened and placed into mandatory quarantine. No crap about voluntary quarantine.

For this method to work, it means that very tough enforcement it needed. None of this crap about human rights and individual liberty. Human rights and so on can be dealt with after the situation is under control…


Elsewhere on the Blog, I said that a twenty-eight day curfew was needed. I explain my reasoning as follows: there would be different viral incubation times for different individuals. Twenty-eight days would appear to be time for all individuals to show manifestations of the infection.

 


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688 responses to “Local Microbiologist Calls for Curfew to be Extended to 28 Days”


  1. WURA-War-on-UApril 6, 2020 11:59 AM

    Again…what about the people who have NO WATER…during a pandemic, the island is filled with those victims….forget the excuses about low water pressure and blah, blah, both governments have had decades and billions of dollars in taxpayer’s money and billions more in IDB, CDB, this and that loans to fix the problem, where is the money.
    Ccccccccccvvvvvvvbnmnnmmm

    And that too.
    However govt hoist the flag of humanity to save the cruise Industry that can all but pay barbados debt
    Yes this govt gave these filthy rich bastards tons of money which they should have paid to the govt on various fees
    Just wait few years from now the sewage which these sick cruise liners dumped in the sea when sitting idle in Carlise Bay would be handed to the tax payers for clean up( what a thank u gift)
    Nothing this govt has done during the Crisis has benefitted the country
    Oh dont worry meanwhile Symmonds sitting and waiting like a beggar for favours from the cruise industry what a belly laugh
    The rich scam the poor and govt agrees
    The poor people having no water does not does not fall under the mercies of humanity by this govt in times of crisis
    But who is watching and who de f.uk cares


  2. Boris is in hospital, teams of reporters and television cameras are outside St Thomas’ hospital. No secrecy; the public has a right to know. No nonsense ab oust medical procedure.
    By the way, when are we going to see the mathematical models done by UWI?


  3. @ John April 6, 2020 12:17 PM

    You are really naively immune from biting sarcasm, aren’t you?
    The world is awash with oil at the moment. China does not have to rely on Venezuela. It can meet its reduced demand for oil from any source, especially from the Saudis and Russians.

    What you are missing is the ‘reasonable’ questioning of the timing of the call to arms by a military clown at this time against a country ravaged by economic decay and threatened by Covid.

    Whom do you think would be the collateral damage in such a phoney invasion?


  4. From the public health announcements running on radio the CMO is heard defending not testing asymptomatic persons because the test kits are not available to support this strategy.

  5. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    “So the major Contractor is C O Williams a White man reaping the sweets in the good times and bad times whilst the Black masses suffer”

    But that is what ya house negro governments like, as long as it benefits them too, am sure they know what Steinbok did up at Vuemont that they had to kick him out, but of course these are the HANDPICKED cabal of crooks…..who are pushed to the front to continue sucking on taxpayers and pensioners for over 4 decades….that is all the house negro governments are good for, nothing else.

  6. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @David April 6, 2020 1:57 PM
    “… CMO is heard defending not testing asymptomatic persons because the test kits are not available to support this strategy.”
    +++++++++++++++++++
    This is a statement that should have been made 4 weeks ago.

    They acknowledge not having enough test kits but when private individuals in concert with respected medical professionals were trying to procure more testing capacity two weeks ago they were met with nothing but governmental obstruction.


  7. Miller
    April 6, 2020 1:20 PM

    @ John April 6, 2020 12:17 PM
    You are really naively immune from biting sarcasm, aren’t you?
    The world is awash with oil at the moment. China does not have to rely on Venezuela. It can meet its reduced demand for oil from any source, especially from the Saudis and Russians.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Saudis and US are allies.

    Russians also need oil


  8. … keep thinking!!


  9. John2
    April 6, 2020 12:43 PM

    The us planbed invasion seem to be s hoax

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Does it have to be an invasion?


  10. @ David April 6, 2020 1:57 PM

    Remember on one of my strolls I encounter one of my former students on the Swing Bridge. I reported that he said that there was a shortage of equipment and that some of the equipment was outdated. It for this reason that I have said we should all get behind the authorities and wish them well. Let us face facts, were it not for this virus, no one would be concerned one way or the other about equipment for the health workers, They are putting their lives on the line for little or no pay, unlike the parasitical lawyers, accountants and economists. Despite the neglect over equipment, one has to remember that there is a rush for equipment and countries with more funds have an edge.


  11. @ Hal April 6, 2020 1:18 PM

    If Boris passes Michael Gove is the man for the Job. I do not expect you have a very high opinion of Gove either.


  12. John

    Do you know what i am refering to as USA invasion?


  13. @Robert

    You mean Gove, the self-confessed drug user? You cannot ignore the young chancellor, Rishi Sunak, he has presented three Budgets within a couple weeks and he handles himself well. Raab is out of it. He has got beyond his capabilities.
    However, I think Boris is seriously ill, but he is not going to pass.


  14. John2
    April 6, 2020 2:30 PM

    John
    Do you know what i am refering to as USA invasion?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    By all means, don’t be shy, tell us


  15. Leff Boris alone let ‘e recover!!


  16. de pedantic Dribbler
    April 6, 2020 11:16 AM

    There appears to be more going on than just the pandemic. There are some peculiar things happening, I say this because I see the strange things going on that should make no sense, in normal circumstances. So one then asks why such directives would be given.

  17. Critical Analyzer Avatar
    Critical Analyzer

    @David and @peterlawrencethompson

    Testing only works to stop the spread if you know who to test.

    I would agree with buyings lots more test kits if people were only capable of transmitting when displaying symptoms i.e. coughing, sneezing, etc. But it has long been out there that asymptomatic people can also spread it and this fact is being confirmed by more sources day by day.

    We are literally between a rock and a hard place. We don’t know who out there is asymptomatic and can’t afford to test every single person in the country. The next best solution is to have every single man, woman and child leaving their home wear a cloth (non-medical) mask or covering over their nose and mouth in addition to the social distancing and hand washing.

    Antigua gets it and they have started doing it. We also need to get with the program and stop depending on curfews, social distancing and washing hands alone. Curfews can’t last forever and you can’t social distance 100% of the time unless you walk around in a bubble.

  18. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @robert lucas
    Your recommendation that the curfew be extended to 28 days is rational, but I think it is likely also predictive… and I think we need to prepare ourselves for the possibility or probability of a curfew that lasts much longer than 28 days.

    We appear to have no coherent government policy or plan, all we have are vague and poorly informed hopes.

    What are the criteria for relaxing the curfew? A fall in the number of active cases? That has already happened; with the death of 1 and the release of 4 patients, active cases now number 49. Does anyone feel safer?

    The current rate of confirmed infections is growing at a linear, not exponential, rate. But that is because we have such a lame testing regimen that we are almost certainly missing the majority of cases. How can I say this? Because we are not testing any asymptomatic people, and several studies have pointed out that asymptomatic infections amount to up to 50% of the total.

    So we have no idea how long the public health emergency curfew will last or how it will end.


  19. Hi David

    Here are two links about mass testing in NJ. They are a bit dated.

    Honestly, I was not following COVID19 in NJ that closely and was surprised at the statistics for my town.

    https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/03/njs-2nd-state-run-coronavirus-testing-site-opens-to-massive-lines-of-cars.html

    https://dailyvoice.com/new-jersey/middlesex/news/nj-considering-prescription-only-coronavirus-testing/785497/

    As you can see this COVID has administrators everywhere adjusting their plans. .

  20. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @Critical Analyzer April 6, 2020 2:58 PM
    “We don’t know who out there is asymptomatic and can’t afford to test every single person in the country.”
    +++++++++++++++++++++
    Yes of course we can afford to test every single person in the country. The problem is not the cost of the tests. Each test kit costs about the same price ($4 each) that people in barbados are charging for cloth masks. The problem is simply getting the manufacturers to ship them after you have paid without them getting seized by bureaucrats in the exporting country.

    The problem is that the bureaucracy is being obstructionist to public/private partnerships to expand our testing capacity because in order to properly guide public health efforts, extra testing must be integrated with the public health system. Simply having your family doctor doing tests won’t work. We need all test results to go through a government epidemiologist, so she can collate, do local analysis, and forward national results to PAHO/ WHO/ CARPHA etc.

    Rather than solve those logistical problems, the instinct of bureaucracy is to maintain absolute control over all testing even when that means crippling adequate testing regimes.


  21. Peter lawrence
    April 6, 2020 3:03 PM

    We appear to have no coherent government policy or plan, all we have are vague and poorly informed hopes

    Xxxccccxcccccccccccccccvv

    Now u beginning to see what others been saying here for so long
    Also heard gas prices are not going down
    Another plan i belive in attempt to save what is left at.the pumps
    Although not bad in itself with people under house arrest the fuel would be in less usage
    Hopefully by weekend govt would have come up with a plan that is humane and can serve a well intended purpose for social distancing which formulates a better sense of direction for the people

  22. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    Been telling them fot weeks about rubbing up and touching up each other and spitting in each other’s faces while talking shite.

    “Boris Johnson taken to intensive care for coronavirus The Prime Minister has been moved to intensive.

    6 Apr 2020 8:15 pm Boris Johnson has been taken into intensive care for coronavirus after his condition worsened. Downing Street said Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab would ‘deputise where necessary’.

  23. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    Bad Enuff many are suffering for lifesaving water and even when they get some, it looks just like the useless ministers…who are not fit for purpose….billions being borrowed and yet this is what the people are getting..

    https://www.facebook.com/ronda.hindsgraham/videos/3182053735161431/?t=2

  24. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    PLT…many don’t understand the concept of the super spreader{s} who is asymptomatic and some may NEVER even show symptoms….apparently there was one or even a few running around Westminster and the general population in UK,Spain, Italy, Iran, US etc, see the results…

    Maybe some need to research Typhoid Mary and then get a grasp of what is likely to happen when the authorities cannot understand exactly what they are dealing with.


  25. @ Hal April 6, 2020 2:34 PM

    It is nice to hear you think he will recover. So what if Gove smoked the tampi as a student? It’s the man not his misspent youth that counts. Churchill drank to excess. The man matters not his foibles


  26. Constant updates on Boris’ treatment. Just as we expect with any political leader in a democracy. Armies of reporters and television cameras outside St Thomas’.
    Hope he pulls through.


  27. @ Robert

    Not as a student, but as a working journalist – while writing about how terrible drug gangs were. Morality, in theory and application, is very important. He should be out of public life.

  28. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    Jamaice does not try to stagnant and reduce their own people to helpless dependants…they push their innovative, creative genuiuses to THE FRONT…they do not allow nuisance parasites to believe they should be promoted before the majority population…and that is why they will ALWAYS succeed.

    “Jamaican scientist Dr Henry Lowe is awaiting approval of a patent for a cannabis-based drug that could be a winning remedy for the novel coronavirus, The Gleaner has learnt.

    A source said that Lowe would have to wait in line for a couple of weeks before knowing if the drug proves useful against COVID-19.

    Lowe and other partners on the project previously received positive feedback that indicated that his cannabis drug had been tested and found to be effective against some members of the family of coronaviruses.”

  29. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    People have no time for those who are slow to recognize that their is a killer plague on the loose, he really took too damn long to deem the disease a pandemic.

    “An online petition calling for the resignation of World Health Organization director-general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus has gained traction lately, garnering over 718,000 signatures, claiming that the United Nations health official and the organizational efforts towards the coronavirus outbreak were unacceptable.

    The petition, posted to Change.org and translated into multiple languages including French, Spanish, German and Arabic, added that the Tedros is “unfit” for his role as head of the organization and should forego his status immediately.”


  30. Barbados also needs to safeguard its sea borders, moreso as much at this point as any official port. Pirates and gangs from South America will be empty handed now and looking to loot where they can. Be aware.

  31. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    So this government who will be shortly BEGGING VOTES of the same Black population they now look down on and whose money they are picking up to promote thieves and racists, actually expect the people of St . Lucy to drink this water…

    well the people know to kick your asses out, since you do not care anything about them.

    https://www.facebook.com/mario.phillips.399/videos/10159858962663298/?t=1


  32. @ PLT April 6, 2020 3:03 PM

    You have a point.28 days is what I would hope for . There is a need to really get tough about the curfew. If they don’t lots of people will die.

    I wonder if the serum of those who have recovered is being used to protect the front line workers. That serum will have to be collected and for any lengthy storage freeze-dried (lyophilization) to maintain its efficacy.

  33. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    “Barbados also needs to safeguard its sea borders, moreso as much at this point as any official port. Pirates and gangs from South America will be empty handed now and looking to loot where they can. Be aware,”

    Am sure everyone knows exactly where to send them, to the same thieves who have been robbing the majority population and raping the island with their house negros for decades, don’t worry…

  34. Critical Analyzer Avatar
    Critical Analyzer

    @peterlawrencethompson

    Yes of course we can afford to test every single person in the country. The problem is not the cost of the tests. Each test kit costs about the same price ($4 each) that people in barbados are charging for cloth masks. The problem is simply getting the manufacturers to ship them after you have paid without them getting seized by bureaucrats in the exporting country.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    There is a cost in time and manpower you are forgetting. The test is not like a blood sugar test that can be done quickly. It takes time to administer and process before you results. However, I will agree with you that we need to test all persons working in essential services. Persons in those essential services have the potential to become super-spreaders.

    We are treating this situation like a card game where we need one more card to win and we keep trying our luck by pulling a card from the pack instead of working with the cards we have been dealt.

    I say treat everybody going outside their house as if they are infected and put a non-medical mask on all of them until we have an effective treatment or vaccine. The mask will not completely stop an infected person from spreading it but it will significantly limit the number of people they pass it onto if they turn out later to be asymptomatic.


  35. @ Hal

    Hon. Kerrie D. Symmonds, Minister of tourism apparently damaged his then wife car and think there was some talk about beatings. It was all over the newspaper and there was supposed to be court action. Yet he has been elected.


  36. @ Robert

    I rest my case.


  37. San Marino a small country completely surrounded by Italy has a Covid-19 death rate of 12% of those who caught the disease. Per hundred population, the country has a mortality rate of 94.72 deaths per 100,000 population. The worse in the world, almost 4 times worse than Italy’s.This so far is the worse case scenario. For a population the size of Barbados it would mean about 300 deaths in the next few weeks. San Marino is small, only 33,562 people so this is not making headline news, but this is as bad as it is so far.

    Italy has had a Covid-19 death rate of 12.3% of those who caught the disease. Per 100,00 population Italy has a death rate of 26.9 deaths per 100,000 population.

    Spain has a Covid-19 death rate of 9.6 % of those who caught the disease. Per 100,00 population Italy has a death rate of 27.5 deaths per 100,000 population.

    Andorra has a Covid-19 death rate of 3.6 % of those who caught the disease. Per 100,00 population Andorra has a death rate of 23.37 deaths per 100,000 population.

    Belgium has a Covid-19 death rate of 7.3 % of those who caught the disease. Per 100,00 population Belgium has a death rate of 12.67 deaths per 100,000 population.

    France has a Covid-19 death rate of 8.6 % of those who caught the disease. Per 100,00 population France has a death rate of 12.08 deaths per 100,000 population.

    The Netherlands has a Covid-19 death rate of 9.9% of those who caught the disease. Per 100,00 population the Netherlands has a death rate of 10.28 deaths per 100,000 population.

    Source and more information:
    https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
    Johns Hopkins University.Cases and mortality by country


  38. @ Hal April 6, 2020 4:35 PM

    Boris is in ICU.

  39. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    This is how you mobilize your people, you copy the POSITIVES..wherever you find them and PUT YOUR OWN PEOPLE FIRST….this is the opposition, imagine if she was still government, she is not waiting for slow ass Rowley…

    “THE Opposition Leader is “mobilising seamstresses and tailors” to make masks for the public to curb the spread of covid19 in TT.

    A statement issued on Sunday by the UNC indicated that Kamla Persad-Bissessar was doing that as well as mobilising “donors of cloth and other supplies to sew face masks for those who do not have.

    “The distribution of these masks will begin as soon as possible in keeping with the latest recommendations from the CDC (Centre for Disease Control).”

    The UNC also said it was calling for donations of cloth and elastic bands.

    The party also said several Asian countries such as Japan and South Korea were faring better against covid19 because their citizens were wearing face masks.

    In a statement on Sunday, the Health Ministry recommended the public should use face masks to reduce the spread of covid19.”

  40. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    On March 5, one month ago…
    Boris Johnson: “Well it’s a very, very important question, and that’s where a lot of the debate has been and one of the theories is, that perhaps you could take it on the chin, take it all in one go and allow the disease, as it were, to move through the population, without taking as many draconian measures…”

  41. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    Now he gets up off his tail and shuts down the restaurants that were never needed at this time, they are NOT essential services, cook ya own food and stop eating the greasy, unhealthy garbage that the most stupid leaders are still promoting for their crooked friends DURING AN OUTBREAK…..a virus that thrives in people who are already unhealthy…then ya put repulsive fast food in ya already weakened system,. May as well order a cardboard coffin.

    BTW…i have been wearing face masks and gloves for weeks, no one has to tell me, am quite capable of understanding what’s going on and making informed decisions to protect me and mine.

    “THE Prime Minister extended the lock-down of TT over the covid19 pandemic until April 30, speaking at a briefing on Monday at the Diplomatic Centre, St Ann’s, and closed all restaurants until that time.

    Dr Rowley said it was clear the initial April 15 deadline would not suffice, as the situation by then would likely be even worse than it is today.

    Rowley justified the restaurant shut-down, by saying that based on the high chance of community spread rather than imported cases, TT is now at the point where it could lose control over the numbers infected.

    He added that Government would take additional action to intensify the fight against the pandemic.

    Rowley said it was not a question of earnings or politics.

    “It is simply a question of whether we live or whether we die.”

    He spelt out new measures, based on the continued advice of the Government’s experts. s

    Saying the Government will distribute face-masks, he said, “Government recommends you wear masks over your face.”


  42. This extract some may find interestimg

    WHO director faces calls to resign for ‘allowing China to cover up true impact of coronavirus’
    US politicians call for resignation of WHO head, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus
    World Health Organization boss partly blamed for China’s lack of transparency
    Senator Martha McSally said Tedros should resign over the ‘Chinese cover-up’
    Activists claimed 42,000 or more could have died in Wuhan, where virus began

    By CHRIS DYER FOR MAILONLINE

    PUBLISHED: 15:32 BST, 6 April 2020 | UPDATED: 21:22 BST, 6 April 2020

    The director-general of the World Health Organization is facing calls to resign over criticisms of the way China’s response to the coronavirus crisis was managed.

    Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus is facing growing calls to step down from US politicians for trusting the communist regime’s official reporting about the extent of the spread of the disease.

    Republican Senator Martha McSally said Dr Tedros should resign over the ‘Chinese cover-up’.

    The senator said: ‘Dr Tedros deceived the world. At one point, he even praised China’s ‘transparency during its coronavirus response efforts” despite a mountain of evidence showing the regime concealed the severity of the outbreak. This deception cost lives.’

    In February, when China reported 17,238 infections and 361 deaths, Tedros said there was no need impose travel restrictions.

    He said measures that ‘unnecessarily interfere with international travel and trade’ were not needed in trying to halt the spread of the virus.

    On March 20, he praised the Chinese regime, saying: ‘For the first time, #China has reported no domestic #COVID19 cases yesterday. This is an amazing achievement, which gives us all reassurance that the #coronavirus can be beaten.’

    China has been accused of significantly downplaying its official virus cases, with some estimates suggesting their death toll could be as high as 40,000.

    So far China has officially recorded more than 81,000 cases with over 3,300 deaths.

    But activists in Wuhan, where the outbreak began, claimed funeral homes are handing out 500 urns a day each, more than necessary for the 2,548 people who have officially died of the virus there.
    Long queues at the funeral homes have fuelled scepticism about China’s numbers, prompting claims that 42,000 people or more could have died in Wuhan alone.

    The country has recorded 3,331 deaths from coronavirus and 81,708 cases but many have speculated that this number is much higher and that China is trying to cover up the true reality of the spread.

    Delay and deceit over the origins of the outbreak cost precious time – and many thousands of lives both in China and subsequently in the rest of the world.

    Scepticism about China’s numbers has swirled throughout the crisis, fuelled by official efforts to quash bad news in the early days and a general distrust of the government.

    A whistleblowing doctor, who first alerted the rest of the world to the escalating crisis within Hubei province, was sanctioned by medical authorities and police.

    Dr Li Wenliang, who later died of the virus, was called in by both medical officials and the police and forced to sign a statement denouncing his warning as an unfounded and illegal rumour in early January.

  43. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    Silly…don’t know if you met any of your relatives who survived the 1918 grippe espagnol….but Barbados had 190 deaths…that information should be made public, let’s see if the island escapes more casualties this time around with a government that is not completely focused and has made and are still making so many missteps in their amateur hour..

    “THE Opposition Leader is “mobilising seamstresses and tailors” to make masks for the public to curb the spread of covid19 in TT.

    A statement issued on Sunday by the UNC indicated that Kamla Persad-Bissessar was doing that as well as mobilising “donors of cloth and other supplies to sew face masks for those who do not have.

    “The distribution of these masks will begin as soon as possible in keeping with the latest recommendations from the CDC (Centre for Disease Control).”

    The UNC also said it was calling for donations of cloth and elastic bands.

    The party also said several Asian countries such as Japan and South Korea were faring better against covid19 because their citizens were wearing face masks.

    In a statement on Sunday, the Health Ministry recommended the public should use face masks to reduce the spread of covid19.”


  44. Well.somebody got to take the fall
    However the good side hopefully when he resigns he can take the gloves off and punch against the weight of crticisms
    Yuh always hear that those that shout the loudest when sh.it hits the fan got something to hide
    Republicans yuh looking at.u


  45. “America self sufficient in oil, net exporter!!”

    Really now. Then explain why they are importing 4000 barrels of Canadian oil per day. Is this the oil they are exporting?


  46. Our Mayor is on TV. The lockdown on community centres, parks, libraries, gyms, etc. has been extended until the end of June. Apparently community gardens are as well, but we will have to see. I will go out to my allotment and do what I can early in the morning.


  47. less than 5mins test coming .

  48. fortyacresandamule Avatar
    fortyacresandamule

    Now they blaming the black man. It is Trump they should be calling to resign. The temerity of those blasted hippocrites.


  49. @Baje April 6, 2020 12:57 AM “THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU PUT ECONOMICS BEFORE PEOPLES LIVES.”

    i am completely non-political. I’ve voted for both party’s and I hope to vote for both again.

    This man’s death had nothing to do with putting economics before people’s lives. It had nothing to do with party politics.

    Simply an elderly Bajan couple who went to England to visit their children and grand children, and then came home again. They could have been my elder brother or sister, or yours.

    I have an elderly sister who migrated to the U.K. in the late 60’s. She planned to travel to Barbados on March 23, but canceled her trip on March 18 when neither Barbados nor the United Kingdom had put stringent measures in place. But she worked as a health professional for more that 40 years. Was also expected some other friends and relatives from the U.K. on March 17 and 19. They do cancelled acting on medical experience, not from medical advice from either country.

    These were friends/relatives, not X amount of pounds sterling. They were planning to visit us strictly as a love thing, to garden together, go to the beach together, eat at one another’s homes, and at local restaurants and the village rum shop etc. fire one or drink a beer or two with the people we went to elementary school with.

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