Local Microbiologist Calls for Curfew to be Extended to 28 Days

The following comment was posted by local microbiologist Dr. Robert Lucas to another blog – Bajans Jettison Social Distancing for Cheek by Jowl. The blogmaster regards it as one of the most important points shared on Barbados Underground since the status of COVID 19 was elevated by Prime Minister Mia Mottley.

David, Barbados Underground

Let me repeat what I have stated elsewhere on the Blog.

The curfew has to rigorously enforced. Once this is done, there is no need for contact tracing. I will explain.

Those who manifest symptoms are easily managed. It is person Z who comes into contact with a person (asymptomatic or beginning to show signs) and is unaware of the fact, who poses the immediate threat. By having the curfew and rigidly enforcing it, means that person Z is localized to a fixed area.

There will be more than one person who qualifies for the nomenclature Z. Since the curfew is rigidly enforced when the Zs become ill and use the hotline, hot spots are known. There will be a number of these hot spots. There should be isolated and all persons in the vicinity of the Z’ screened and placed into mandatory quarantine. No crap about voluntary quarantine.

For this method to work, it means that very tough enforcement it needed. None of this crap about human rights and individual liberty. Human rights and so on can be dealt with after the situation is under control…


Elsewhere on the Blog, I said that a twenty-eight day curfew was needed. I explain my reasoning as follows: there would be different viral incubation times for different individuals. Twenty-eight days would appear to be time for all individuals to show manifestations of the infection.

 

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  • “NOW IS THE TIME TO PLANT ALL AVAILABLE AGRICULTURE LAND WITH FOOD AND NOT MARIJUANA/WEED AS THESE NO VISION POLITICIANS HAS BEEN HELL BENT ON DOING TO BENEFIT A FEW AND NOT THE MASSES.”

    Told them from the get go that it is a spiritual plant and bad Enuff it was criminalized for decades and even when it was made legal without the people’s knowledge, they took over 2 decades before one of them let the “legal regime” slip thinking he was being slick..

    …however because yall are so cursed since you refuse to look after your own people WITH THEIR MONEY or allow them free enterprise to thrive and grow….yall burnt down the whole thing with ya bad intentions..

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  • WHAT GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE DOING IS WAIVING VAT ON ALL FOOD ITEMS FOR A PERIOD OF TIME TO ASSIST ALL WHICH INCLUDES THOSE WHOSE INCOME HAVE BEEN DRAMATICALLY CURTAILED.

    THEY NEED ALSO TO COME UP WITH A FINANCIAL PACKAGE FOR AFFECTED BUSINESSES AND UNEMPLOYED OR A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL REALLY SUFFER FROM STARVATION IN THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS.

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  • John A that is one possibility but the other side of this is that the customer might also get what they need as well.Why .uzt you always be so negative about everything ?You getting like Mariposa, Baje,Austin, Greene and a few others looking to score cbeap political points.Tbisis un chartered waters and some things will go well others not so well. The government is following the advice of the health officials as they are not doctors neither are you.Therefore chill out and seebow things play out.Austin seems impressed by Ms Bradshaw who although improved today was in my view not impressive before in my view and should not be placed in that position again in my view going forward.Austin like with Mr Thompson before seems impressed with style over substance as Ms Bradshaw like Mr Tho.pson is not in Ms Mottley,s league now or in the forzeeable future in my view.She has a long way to go but time is hopefully on her side.

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  • You getting like Mariposa, Baje,Austin, Greene and a few others looking to score cbeap political points.

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    SHOWING YOUR IDIOTIC THINKING AGAIN.

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  • Yeap Mia has practiced the art of deception
    Santia still is fresh but has a long way to go
    Santia style is refreshing rather than that mocking finger pointing gesture up in the peoples face which Mia has adopt as a way to communicate doubled by wanting to showboat Trump style
    So friggin annoying

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  • Why are a higher proportion of black Americans dying from coronavirus than any other ethnic group? Is this coincidence?

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    First of all @Mari, no i didnt… i was not in mood to hear political posturing so i opted to get the details after the fact.

    You are STILL not making PRACTICAL sense… so I dun did you after this, too!

    The 1)baskets are options for ease of purchase. As wid any online or real basket of goods its a selection of choices. As I understand it they are simply using their comprehensive consumer purchase metrics to identify a basket of goods most ideally suited for use … this is not willy nilly but based on purchase histories!

    That’s STANDARD business algorithmic practice… the successful ones do it to focus ad spend, just in time stocking and other best practices! Is this that alien to you!

    Respectfully sir but “Now pray tell how easy would it be for me as a shopper when placing the order to accurately decided which basket is appropriate for my needs” is HOGWASH.

    As a shopper you pick the selected basket that meets your budget and most closely also meets your needs… if NONE do then prep your own basket.

    If you want *”As a shopper….up and close look of my purchases not a prescribed prepkg basket of what some cashier belive is best for me” then either wait until this is over to eat, go to a friend’s house orrrr simply create your own basket at purchase.

    When you shop in Pricesmart at Christmas and they have those prewrapped baskets of sweets and other goodies at a supposedly good price YOU choose to buy one if and only if it meets your needs…can you PLEASE explain what is the technical difference here. …Y ou are being obtuse for its sake to be critical.

    Yes the setup in NOT perfect but its not so ridiculous as you make it out to be either …we will get back to holding those juicy melons and squeezing them with a gleam in our eye and tweaking off a nip of grapes to test their sweetness… one day…. right now you have to trust another’s judgement that the fruits and vegs you get are perfectly good… or GROW YOUR OWN!

    I dun wid you and dat sir.

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  • @John A

    Let us agree there is no model to follow slavishly. Several of the large countries are making it up as they go along and while they are doing so the death toll is in the thousands.

    Let us agree the government perhaps in hindsight made an error here an there, is there a government dealing with this virus that can be said nailed it? As we debate the issue.

    Let us also agree that of the thousands trying to buy foodstuff last week it was was panic buying and not that there was a need. The challenge is to attend those who need.

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  • @ Mariposa
    It was refreshing watching Santia. He has the making of a great leader. Out must go the shouting, the unintelligent waffle, the repetition, the three-hour harangue. There is now a real alternative to the president.
    All Santia has to be careful of is surrounding herself with the wrong people. She will grow with experience.
    By the way, is the president recovering from her medical procedure? In the middle of war the general goes missing.

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  • Salemite WARU

    You’re truly an illiterrati! I don’t understand your comments about being ungrateful and the US. But that’s expected–confused, confusion and confusing are synonymous with you and your rants. becomes you. When BU gum bumpers ranted about the supermarket closures, I said the acting PM made clear a solution was coming. Once again Mottley and her government have silenced the agenda seekers. For those talking about incompetence, T’dad just further changed their strategy and we all know what’s happening (or not) in the great Amurka and Britain. The clown show continues!

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  • No i do not have to trust another judgement
    Trust of those who make everyday decisions for the world is what got the whole world in a mess and people suffering
    I dont want to order a basket and then when i received it the items are not of use then to be told “well that is what we have”
    When i pay for an item such as food i want to pay careful attention to quality
    Reason why i do not buy fast food

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  • “If I told you 1 major supermarket outlet sold roughly 1 million separate items on Friday….”

    @ John A

    Do you mean any given Friday before or within the curfew period?

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  • Fowl…the supermarkets need to be opened, stagger the times and the hours, that is all people are asking. Yall creating more confusion…people have to be able to purchase their food without yall incompetents directing another cockup..

    Stop trying to act like yall are so different and end up coming up with total shit….everyone is going through the same thing so ya are not special…well not in intelligence anyway..

    ya trying to stand out but only succeeding in being a laughing stock….

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  • Barbados recorded its third death today and three more in critical condition

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  • The blogmaster sat on his bed and ordered groceries and vegetables that were delivered in 3 days. Covid will force behaviours that are required in a today’s world. The pandemic presents too many challenges to allow for entrenched behaviours to take over. What we have observed in other countries is not that supermarkets are open, it is that healthcare systems and front-line medical staff have been pressured to the point of compromise.

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  • A

    I have no desire or need to challenge you “hypothetical” math skills. Why when someone disagree with you you does have to pull the “political” card? are you insecured? are you disagreements with the government political?

    The world had changed! Barbados has changed! the supermarkets may never open back they door full again this year ….hopefully I am wrong and we get a hold on the virus soon.

    You can go back to my post and you will see I have been calling for a shut down of the island for couple of time before the government did it.

    I have a wife and kids in Barbados. if this don’t affect you all will be good but if someone go into one of the same supermarket and somehow the virus get back to you that way then you will be singing a different story and all you calculations = a big fat 0

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  • @ David.

    In my world you do the logistics and then work backwards. In other words what is needed to implement this plan successfully to X people. Then you say ok so to service 5 times X or 1000 times X would be. If this was viable you know I would support it but it is not.

    Secondly most supermarkets closed with half empty shelves so are you saying you are allowing the distributors 2 days to replenish everyone? Another impossibility.

    You and I know after Christmas it takes days for the shelves to look good again. The volume of business supermarkets dealt with on Friday was the heaviest sales per hour most have ever recorded. Thus you can imagine the stock that must be replenished.

    Either open them tomorrow of leave them closed till after Easter. If you were going to leave them till after Easter though, then let the distributors replenish them this week.

    Lord I tired of these half way approaches and daily change of plans. They you blame the poor consumers for panicking.

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @John A April 7, 2020 2:38 PM
    “The move by government to try and half open the supermarkets will prove a waste of time by tomorrow evening.”
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    It is quite simple to design a logistical system within the supermarkets to facilitate ordering for pickup or delivery. The key is simply to recognise that the supermarket needs to expand staffing levels because the consumers are not themselves doing the labour of taking the items off the shelf and placing them in the cart. There are thousands of out of work Bajans who are qualified to do this work. Hire them.

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  • Let me say that poltically anyone can like or dislike what I say it really doesn’t matter to me.

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    Does that mean that you are being political?
    OR
    Someone that disagree with you would have to be political?

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  • We have to assume the retailers discussed the logistics with government after last week to inform the move announced today. Let us continue to refine. It is better to err on the side of caution. We need to contain this virus. On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 8:25 PM Barbados Underground wrote:

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  • @ Artax

    The Friday of the curfew is the Friday I meant. Sorry my apologies. I can also tell you the average spend per person was on average 2.5 times that of a normal Friday as well.

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  • @ Hal

    Why are a higher proportion of black Americans dying from coronavirus than any other ethnic group? Is this coincidence?

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    IS THIS FACT OR WHAT IS BEING PORTRAYED BY MEDIA?

    ALSO WHERE DEMOGRAPHICALLY ARE YOU SPEAKING OF?

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  • @ PLT

    I agree it would take much more trained man power. It will also take a major upgrade in equipment. From phone lines to printers, upgraded credit card facilities, an online inventory package to processing and on and on. Then you have the older crowd to think of too many of whom don’t even own a computer.

    The other side of the coin is that no supermarket is going to invest in this capital outlay for the short term, knowing full well once things settle down people will return to the supermarket.

    My contention is why is Barbados doing what no other country in the world has done with respect to supermarkets?

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  • LOL!!!!

    That’s a good wun. Float the talk bout how impressive Santia was. But so far nuhbody en tek de bait (or debate) and comment.

    So, wuh yuh do? Yuh pelt de bait at Mariposa, who will answer fuh 2 reasons. (1) because it ’bout Santia, and anything about de BLP she gine oppose, so she gine comment…. and (2) as long as the chairman of her fan club pose a comment at she, she gine feel obligated to respond.

    There is a belief that when Mariposa respond, some people gine find it hard not to respond to her waffle. When they do, it gine then give de chairman de opportunity to expand on his Santia thing some more.

    What Mariposa don’t realize is dat her chairman duz use her as a pawn. He knows that she does write a lot uh waffle yuh can’t understand. So, wuh he duz do is to pay her nuff compliments and swell she head, ONLY when it suit he purposes and den he duz set she up…… so he can talk bout what he really want to talk about.

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  • @ David.

    You got to understand any retailer would of said yes we can handle it. After all its an opportunity to sell! When they can’t handle it they will simply say ” we did not anticipate demand to be so heavy.”

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @Hal Austin April 7, 2020 4:04 PM
    “Why are a higher proportion of black Americans dying from coronavirus than any other ethnic group? Is this coincidence?”
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    It’s no coincidence. It is a consequence of poorer health as well as poorer health care insurance.

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  • @Peter

    This is correct, a nobrainer. They also do the jobs that expose them to contact to add to your comment. The live in the projects etc.

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  • Let us agree there is no model to follow slavishly. Several of the large countries are making it up as they go along and while they are doing so the death toll is in the thousands.

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    Experts say the true number of people infected is unknown and likely much higher than official tallies.

    SECONDLY YOU ARE COMPARING A SMALL ISLAND WITH COUNTRIES WITH MANY MANY MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO ALSO HAVE A BETTER/WIDER TESTING REGIME IN PLACE.

    GUYANA 600,000 POPULATION HAD ITS FIRST POSITIVE CASE CLOSE TO 2 WEEKS BEFORE BARBADOS HAD ITS FIRST, BARBADOS 1/2 THE POPULATION SIZE HAS SHOT WAY AHEAD OF GUYANA IN NUMBER OF POSITIVE CASES.

    GUYANA SUPERMARKETS AND PHARMACIES STILL REMAIN OPEN.

    THEY HAD CLOSED AIR AND LAND BORDERS AT LEAST A FEW WEEKS AGO.

    BU BLOG NOW SEEMS TO HAVE BECOME THE GOVERNMENT MOUTHPIECE.

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  • Rob

    SPOT ON!!

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @Mr Blogamster and you forgot to add: and supermarket front line workers are DYING from covid too.

    What a thing eh!

    MAKE THE ONLINE WORK! I am at a complete loss at the level of criticism on this effort.

    You guys read the same news I do….. so you know that the maguffies like Wal-Mart in some states are employing some draconian methods for shoppers…only a few shoppers per time and other really crazy stuff and those are normally massive sq footage buildings …whats so wrong with this push (other than the mark of that chip of the beast)!

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  • Giving out specific pick up slots is staggering!! Minimising contact while getting food is sensible–curbside, home deliveries and pre-packaged bundles make sense. It is good to see that the supermarkets are using data i.e evidence to put together these bundles. We are so backward but pretending to be progressive. Shopping for groceries online is what many people do overseas in the “non-failed” states. As far back as 2007/2008 Super Centre was offering a quasi-online shopping service, by now it should have been fully implemented. Massey? Just like working from home is being proved to be a legitimate option in B’dos, online grocery shopping on a larger scale will. All yuh see how useful a facility like M-Money could be and why electronic payments rather than cheques is the way forward? Bdos post-COVID pandemic should hopefully be a more forward-thinking and acting society.
    Regarding the Nation and only interviewing a white man, that man had stories in the British press so the Nation could obviously contact him. Who on BU knows who are the other released patients? As far as I know their identity (rightfully so) was never revealed. So how would the Nation carry out interviews?🤣😋😋

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  • DPD

    SHOULD BE NO WORRY FOR MARI

    ASS EATS GRASS

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  • @enuff

    Use the crisis to force more efficient behaviour in the people. A behaviour like you stated we have been dragging our feet for years. People will adapt, especially for good.

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  • @ DPD

    nobody is saying that WAL-MART etc not using their online, what we are saying is no where in the developed world were supermarkets closed. Nor has Wal-Mart closed any of their retail stores either.

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    John A April 7, 2020 4:37 PM
    “I agree it would take much more trained man power.”
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    It is much more simple than that. Just apply the KISS principle. They are not going to invest in a real ecommerce platform in the short term; what is more you pointed out that a large fraction of their customers have no computer.

    The only hardware they should get is a dozen cheap mobile phones that can handle WhatsApp. That takes an hour at most. Then have people send their shopping lists with address (and a WhatsApp pin for delivery location if they are under 40) and the order clerk prints these lists and gives them to the order pickers (no need for trained man power). Simple, fast, cheap, and mostly foolproof (although someone will undoubtedly invent a more powerful fool).

    If the order is for pickup send them (by WhatsApp) the pickup appointment time. If they are late they have to go back home and wait until the store sets a replacement pickup appointment.

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  • @Baje,

    Michigan, for example, Chicago, Milwaukee.

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  • All this would of been unnecessary if a decision was made to Enforce the personal space requirement. That is all that was required.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    Crystal clear @PLT re *”It’s no coincidence. It is a consequence of poorer health as well as poorer health care insurance”… However, the incidence has the attention of main stream news so here we go.

    The other day when POTUS inexplicably (but politically) opted NOT to reopen the insurance market window to allow new signups that news made no news…

    Look for the conspiracies to expand that this is about culling populations … because the facts of this pandemic are more unbelievable that the worst fiction…

    …As I’m sure you guys heard the story of the author who wrote about a pandemic back 15 years ago and his publishers TOSSED the book into file13 because they said it was too ‘UNREALISTIC’ …

    …. the book ‘LockDown’ was released last week after the new editors said OMG…this is happening now!

    What exactly is going here must be a case of a bio test that got out of control…as this is just too unrealistically real!

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  • I THINK SOME OF you in here really want the supermarkets to remain open so that the number can go up and yhen you will beat up on the government.

    Not you A,. although you can be low class sometimes 🙂 I don’t think you that low.

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  • @Hal Austin April 7, 2020 4:04 PM
    “Why are a higher proportion of black Americans dying from coronavirus than any other ethnic group? Is this coincidence?”
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    It’s no coincidence. It is a consequence of poorer health as well as poorer health care insurance.

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    @Peter

    This is correct, a nobrainer. They also do the jobs that expose them to contact to add to your comment. The live in the projects etc.

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    WHITES MAKE UP THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE IN THE US FOR POVERTY AND NOT BLACKS.

    The average gross monthly income per food stamp household is $731; The average net income is $336. 37% of participants are White, 22% are African-American, 10% are Hispanic, 2% are Asian, 4% are Native American, and 19% are of unknown race or ethnicity.

    The distribution of residents living in Project-Based Section 8 (POOR) housing units is similar to the racial composition of ELI renters. About half (49%) of Project-Based Section 8 residents are white, about a third (33%) are black and 13% are Hispanic

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  • ptl

    The older generation that cant use a pc,.
    Just like the old days, write the list and give it to a younger person. that person can do the WhatsApp or whatever and also the pick up. the older person stay at home as much as possible.

    DPD

    I when to HD today. line outside was short so I decide to get inline. When I got inside ans saw the amount of people, although they were well spaced, I hightailed it out. will get my plants and items another time.

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  • @ John 2

    Thank you for the benefit of doubt. Lol

    All I saying is the logistics show this isn’t going to work based on the current situation. Anyhow we will wait to Thursday evening and see, as I have no problem with being proven wrong.

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  • @ Baje

    You must learn to ignore some ignorance sometimes. I saw that nonsense and chose to ignore it. I hope someday we will get serious discussions instead of just political shouting.

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  • @ @Baje,

    Michigan, for example, Chicago, Milwaukee.

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    THESE ARE ALREADY KNOWN HOTSPOTS FOR BLACK ON BLACK MURDERS AND KILLINGS IN THE US.

    YOU WILL FIND UNFORTUNATELY MANY OF THE BLACK PEOPLE IN THOSE AREAS ARE IN SURVIVAL MODE WHERE HARD DRUGS USAGE AND SELLING IS THE CURRENCY OF THE DAY AND HEALTH CONCERNS ARE A LOW PRIORITY.

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  • @ Baje

    Add all those sociological pathologies to the mix and coronavirus is just another. That is the nature of the beast.

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  • @ John A

    Let’s assume the authorities decide to allow supermarkets to remain open and, as you suggested, deploy RBPF and BDF officers to enforce law, order and ‘social distancing.’

    I’m sure you’re aware not every customer owns a vehicle and many of them use public transportation or the supermarket’s shuttle.

    After observing all the precautionary measures instituted by the supermarkets, wearing masks and sanitizing everything, these people have to ‘catch’ a B, BM, Z, ZM, ZR or the shuttle to get home.

    What are your recommendations? For example, should PSVs be restricted to having one passenger in each row on both sides of the vehicle?

    Knowing that over the past few weeks, PSV operators have experienced a fall in revenue, under these circumstances, do you believe operators would be inclined to observe ‘social distancing,’ since, for example, it won’t be financially advantageous for a mini-bus to travel from Princess Alice terminal to Speightstown with 12 passengers and not being able to ‘pick up’ some along the way?

    Another thing. Are your numbers based on what transpired during last week’s ‘panic or bulk buying?’

    If so, have you taken into consideration that, at that time, consumers were essentially shopping for what they wanted as opposed to what they actually needed?

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  • GUYANA 31 CORONAVIRUS CASES AS OF TODAY. HAD ITS FIRST POSITIVE CASE 2 WEEKS BEFORE BARBADOS.

    600,000+ POPULATION.

    CLOSED AIR AND SEAPORTS, OPEN SUPER MARKETS AND PHARMACIES.

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    BARBADOS 60 CORONAVIRUS CASES AS OF TODAY

    280,000+ POPULATION

    OPEN AIR AND SEAPORTS, CLOSED SUPERMARKETS AND PHARMACIES.

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    SO WHO IS REALLY TREATING THEIR POPULATIONS LIKE IDIOTS COULD ONLY BE DONE BY A DESPOT.

    BARBADOS CONTINUES TO BE THE LAUGHING STOCK AND CARRYING A LOT OF DEAD WEIGHT AND APOLOGISTS.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @John A, let’s agree to disagree on the practicalities of your remark “nobody is saying that WAL-MART etc not using their online, what we are saying is no where in the developed world were supermarkets closed. Nor has Wal-Mart closed any of their retail stores either.”

    Based on what I had read, heard from others etc the practical situation with some large food retailers is akin to closing as compared to Bim.

    *1)Target is some cities has announced they will only be selling essentials. Thus half of their store are closed.
    *2)Wal-Mart is some locations were reported to have very restrictive numbers in stores and at certain hours only have the self checkouts in use. And too certain parts of the stores are closed.
    *3)TraderJoes in one city closed for a few days after TWO workers from that store died.
    *4).Amazon warehouses also had a slew of positives in some locations and workers wanted to go on strike demanding better protection, cleaning etc

    Thus when I compare those PROBLEMS to Bim..then I say yes we are right to close…. So I cannot condemn the admin or this strong stance. It can be made to work and the PROBLEMS that can accrue to our frontline supermarket workers CANNOT be allowed to equate to any in the developed countries.

    We have to fit needs to purpose…Bim has seen its future and it looks bleak so she decided to close supermarkets and push online sales… when the developed countries have not closed… HOW can we criticize her for that over LOGISTICS…No sir, cannot follow your logic here. They will fix the logistics.

    We have the lives of retail staffer to lose if not… none of us are of course paid to risk our lives in non-security jobs but at their level in particular they are really not paid the bucks to take that risk.

    Just saying bro!

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  • Everything is ignorant if it is above your pay grade.

    steuspe

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  • @ PLT

    The WhatsApp route is an option but you would have to try and limit the length of the order to say 30 different items per order as you will be doing this manually, so it will be very time consuming. Then you got to factor In the payments as you can’t run a credit card on WhatsApp, so you back to the lap top or smart phone. I paid my car insurance this week via an agent over the phone and it took some time, as I still had to wait on them to email me the paper work. It worked though so that was the important thing!

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  • First of all …EVERYONE should be MASKED AND GLOVED UP…NO MATTER WHERE THEY ARE GOING…you have to give consideration to those WHO CANNOT SIT ON THEIR BEDS AND ORDER FOOD…then handed a package of expired or inferior quality SHITE…you are not dealing with the nicest people in Barbados, the greediest maybe..

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  • @ de

    Let’s chat Thursday evening on how it worked then. Proof of the pudding in the eating.

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  • John 2 you are correct if you look at the persons calling for the opening of supermarkets whereby the virus could spread even more like Mariposa, John A, Baje,Greene, Austin,Waru and a few others have political agenda hoping to see this government fall.They care little about bajans but their efforts will fail.This is the rrason i care nothing about these non medical overseas armchair expert bloggers.

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  • But somehow am the illiterati, coming from the corrupt POS..

    “BARBADOS 60 CORONAVIRUS CASES AS OF TODAY

    280,000+ POPULATION

    OPEN AIR AND SEAPORTS, CLOSED SUPERMARKETS AND PHARMACIES.”

    SO WHO IS REALLY TREATING THEIR POPULATIONS LIKE IDIOTS COULD ONLY BE DONE BY A DESPOT”

    Despots who believe they have CAPTURED SLAVES…

    they so want putting in a prison somewhere..

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  • A

    Have nothing for or against your logistics.

    I have a family in Barbados and is away from them. I travel through airports weekly
    I don’t think I have the virus but I am not coming home for obvious reasons. My family have to go through this the same as anyone else on the island.

    protecting them is first for me. but I do understand why government made some of their decisions. I doubt they is any government that isn’t getting hit for the way they handle some aspect of this crisis.

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  • “Shopping for groceries online is what many people do overseas in the “non-failed” states.”

    In places where they are professional and do not have EXPIRED PRODUCTS on their shelves and won’t put it in your bag, i have had to alert top supermarkets in Barbados about expired products still on their shelves and i am not the only one….

    … people like to choose their own items it is their money and you negros cannot be trusted, we already know the merchants are greedy have no ethics nor scruples, you are a banana republic with a plantation mentality….that CANNOT BE TRUSTED AT ANY TIME.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    Fair enough at John2, re “I when to HD today. line outside was short so I decide to get inline. When I got inside ans saw the amount of people, although they were well spaced, I hightailed it out. will get my plants and items another time.”

    In some states gun shops were open as essentials…one man’s poison is another’s essential need clearly!…And of course one US governor reopened the essential beaches his mayor had closed in her city!

    Life is like a box of chocolates…the man said, right!

    I’ll put in this way the folks in Washington state, or NJ or NY or California and now even Florida are aggressive on mitigation with their spiralling numbers and have a different appreciation of the simple joy of a waking up to a cup of coffee or tea than let’s say folks in Wyoming or Ohio where the threat seems quite, quite low… the former just savour that taste of life more as many are truly concerned about not having it!

    Barbados needs to act like a NY or NJ not a Wyoming!

    I gone.

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  • John 2 you are correct if you look at the persons calling for the opening of supermarkets whereby the virus could spread even more like Mariposa, John A, Baje,Greene, Austin,Waru and a few others have political agenda hoping to see this government fall.

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    I KEEP PROMISING NOT TO RESPOND TO YOU MR BUTTHEAD.

    GUYANA WITH TWICE THE POPULATION OF BARBADOS HAS 1/2 THE POSITIVE CASES WITH THEIR SUPERMARKETS AND PHARMACIES REMAINING OPEN.

    NO ONE CARES WHETHER THIS GOVERNMENT RISES OR FALL HOWEVER THE PEOPLE WILL CONTINUE TO SUFFER IF LED BY THESE BUFFOONS AND THEIR POLITICALLY CONNECTED CZAR WHO DOESN’T SEEM TO HAVE A CLUE.

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  • And this below is the reason for closing the supermarkets…it is not about COVID…it’s about the business crooks and their M-Money SCAM..

    “All yuh see how useful a facility like M-Money could be and why electronic payments rather than cheques is the way forward? Bdos post-COVID pandemic should hopefully be a more forward-thinking and acting society.”

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  • Baje…they believe they are really speaking to their illiterati SELVES….this is not about the plague, they have spent the last two years and limitless taxpayers money trying to run that M-Money scam, all the thieves are involved, it’s only now they have the opportunity to use a disease to shut down supermarkets to get the scam up and running…..holding the people HOSTAGE.

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  • Ah knew Fowl Enuff would come through for me and tell me what it was all about and what evil shite they were brewing…..lol…she could never have kept that info, too excited, she would have exploded first…

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  • Fauci once dismissed concerns about ‘silent carriers’ of coronavirus. Not anymore.

    At Sunday’s White House briefing, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the longtime director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, suggested that hundreds of thousands — or even millions — of “silent carriers” may be unwittingly spreading the coronavirus across the United States because they don’t realize they’re infected.

    The idea that at least some coronavirus carriers don’t feel sick isn’t new. But the scale of Fauci’s estimate was.

    “It’s somewhere between 25 and 50 percent” of the total, Fauci said. But “right now,” he went on, “we’re just guessing.”

    Fifty percent is a staggering — and scary — number. To put it in perspective, an asymptomatic rate that high would theoretically double the confirmed U.S. case count to more than 700,000 infections (even though the actual number of infections is likely much larger, given all the issues with testing).

    But Fauci has reason to suspect the asymptomatic rate could be as high as 50 percent. Researchers initially assumed the coronavirus would spread much like its notorious sibling, the virus that caused SARS — that is, only from people who were clearly sick with fever and cough. “Even if there’s a rare asymptomatic person that might transmit, an epidemic is not driven by asymptomatic carriers,” Fauci himself said on Jan. 28.

    Yet as the deadly pathogen shut down one country after another, evidence began to surface that sick people weren’t the only ones spreading it. Some of the new data came from Wuhan, China, where the pandemic originated. Some of it came from the Diamond Princess cruise ship, where more than 700 captive passengers and crew members tested positive. Some of it came from Iceland, where nearly 5 percent of the total population — sick or not — has been screened for the virus.

    All of it pointed to the same conclusion: Silent carriers are real, and they are most likely infecting others.

    Estimates of the asymptomatic rate have been ticking upward for months. That’s one reason why U.S. authorities recently reversed their earlier guidance and started advising all Americans to wear masks in public.

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  • @John A

    Let us anticipate there will be issues to work through. It will not be smooth, how can it be? So far we should do all to discourage large groups especially as we have seen already a % Barbadians prefer not to ignore social distancing.

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  • That may explain why the people in China who tested negative months ago are not testing positive in a fresh wave of infection, despite their draconian measures to arrest the spread.

    This disease is highly adaptable and at this point, unstoppable..

    The supermarkets in Barbados need to be reopened and stop these criminals from holding the whole population hostage just to run a scam, bad Enuff ya using the opportunity of a disease to carry out ya crimes…..against the people..

    wearing gloves and masks AT ALL TIMES, is the ONLY WAY to slow it down……until those doing the research learn more about why it adapts to survive so easily…

    where we see death and destruction, thieves and parasites see OPPORTUNITIES.

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  • Do you understand the context when it is stated that Black people are reported to be dying at a higher rate than Whites? For clarity allow the blogmaster to add the word DISPROPORTIONATELY. Hopefully you get it now.

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  • That may explain why the people in China who tested negative months ago are NOW testing positive in a fresh wave of infection, despite their draconian measures to arrest the spread.

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  • Don’t know if you know the Black to white ratio of income in Chicago and areas of the US where the disease is more likely to take hold in the more DEPRESSED AREAS where social distancing will be a luxury..

    ….they are called low income and depressed for a very good reason, these are like the helpless depressed areas in Barbados, they just do not have the winter and other more extreme social factors…

    It’s like how they built the ugly low income houses in the Pine and other areas of the island and expect them to socially distance successfully when that would be a breeding ground for the disease to run rampant…

    they all live in too close a proximity…they do not have to go to the supermarkets to have the disease spread like wildfire…

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  • WARU
    YOU CANT TELL THE TRUTH LIKE THAT ON BU CHILE
    BUT YOU ARE 100% CORRECT ABOUT THE STUPID BLACKS IN THE USA WHO HAVE ALLOWED CERTAIN POLITICIANS TO RULE AND RUIN THEIR LIVES FOR OVER 60 YEARS

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  • Lawd people referencing Guyana. The population of Guyana is 600,000+ yes, but it is also 83,000 sq.miles., with a population density of 9.1 per sq.mile. The region with the largest population, which includes Georgetown the capital, is 867 sq.miles with a population density of 54 per sq.mile. This happens to be the centre of economic and all other manner of activity too. The whole of Bdos has a population density of 1,731 per sq.mile. Then look at the differences in the economy, travel patterns etc. How is covid transmitted? By the way Trinidad shut their borders too but their count is 105 cases, 8 deaths and 1 discharged. All restaurants were shut down from today, including curbside pickups. The spaghetti throwing is real.🤣

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  • Do you understand the context when it is stated that Black people are reported to be dying at a higher rate than Whites? For clarity allow the blogmaster to add the word DISPROPORTIONATELY. Hopefully you get it now.

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    Don’t know if you know the Black to white ratio of income in Chicago and areas of the US where the disease is more likely to take hold in the more DEPRESSED AREAS where social distancing will be a luxury..

    ….they are called low income and depressed for a very good reason, these are like the helpless depressed areas in Barbados

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    @ Waru SOME MUST SEEK TO CONTINUE THEIR PIG HEADED IGNORANCE.

    THEY ARE ALLEGED EXPERTS ON THE 2 x 3 ISLAND AND WANT TO BE EXPERTS EVERYWHERE.

    IGNORANCE KNOWS NO BOUNDS.

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  • By the way – is social distance a law?

    I am ignorant here

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  • GP…glad to see you well.

    Yes, Black people fell for the scam of politics everywhere, we need look no further than the fowls on BU…it has ruined many generations, their lives in tatters, but yet they persist….socially engineered to be perpetual victims and they like it so..

    Look how easily those banana republic leaders were able to fool those who are quick to believe in them, look how easily they will implement their M-Money scam if the population don’t protest and DEMAND THEY OPEN THE SUPERMARKETS..

    ….people are more likely to be INFECTED AT HOME AND IN THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOODS…because that is their comfort zone and they are LESS LIKELY TO BE VIGILANT ENOUGH TO WEAR MASKS AND GLOVES…..unlike those who glove up and mask up to go everywhere..

    A whole family mother and 3 sons just passed away from the disease in US>

    https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftrib.al%2FXjD1xX3%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR0VSKsBhbRiDzwEfLGtEJVx2WtAw0BCBqKWELx2nSmC0KaLyKOvReQbON0&h=AT1vtOTpxl5rlgM-rVfUO_v88LOGgv_TcLg40terBMlrASQU5h8tAWV39ZP-WAErDGpC_-_2vlCIC7u5ngrRWyoo9ir7p7NGpx12pz2lyVmgvfL0k7InphkgmeCczB6t-nPNhXmX4JPPoI8THQ0Wj33iIqgWODrjufUesJFwEe58aTc

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  • WW

    the front line health workers does wear gloves and mask and I sure they probably wash and sanitize more than the average person yet…….

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  • Look how soon we forget, it was the Bitcoin scam and when the government was elected they morphed it into the M-Money scam and forgot to tell the people it had been renamed, Rawdone and Dukeran were all over the radio trying to fool the public and they had to be reminded of certain things..

    ……now that opportunity knocks in the form of a PLAGUE they have just dragged out the scam dusted it off and are ready to implement….but first they had to shut down the supermarkets…only idiots in the world to do so…which means they are up to no damn good as usual and it will be the people who will pay the HEAVY price…

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  • They are also unlike those who are at home , apparently exposed to more lethal doses of the plague than everyone else, these people see more than likely hundreds of patients within hours, that is why they are called frontline workers…i believe the danger lies in the super spreaders, people who have no symptoms whatsoever but are spreading around very lethal doses…..that can be anyone..

    Myself have been going to supermarkets heavily masked and gloved and so far no problems, house heavily sanitized and all is good…no visitors and even if, they can hang out 6 ft from the front door until they leave and that is family..

    the opened supermarkets once everyone follows the safety distance…is not the problem..people still go to doctor’s offices on the island, has anyone visiting those offices been infected…they should not be staying as long as it take to pick up some items at a supermarket…

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  • I believe that it was the UK based commentator Hal Austin who raised the spectrum of race amongst the victims of covid-19 in the USA. Aljazeera have reported something similar occurring within the UK.

    GP why are you spending so much time on your religious blog when it is evident to all that your expertise is required here on these medical blogs. Just asking.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/04/critically-ill-covid-19-uk-patients-bme-backgrounds-200407143303604.html

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  • THOSE THAT ARE CLAIMING THAT THE PORTS ARE STILL OPENED. CAN ANY OF YOU TELL US HOW MANY PASSENGER PASSED THROUGH TODAY OR YESTERDAY……. not including the medical VISITORS from cuba?

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  • The same high rate of low income households in depressed areas coupled with NCDs that can be found in NY, Chicago, Missouri and every part of US can also be found in Barbados and those are the people more at risk just like those with other underlying ailments, if you are reckless then you also put yourself at a high risk of becoming infected…

    ‘I want the world to know if it happened to the Franklin family it could happen to any family,’ Jacqueline Franklin, wife of Anthony Franklin Sr., told WDSU.

    ‘Let’s take this serious. My children have to bury their father, their precious grandmother and their uncles.’

    New Orleans has emerged as one of the early U.S. hot spots for the coronavirus.

    The death rate in New Orleans is almost twice that of New York, with doctors and public health officials blaming the Big Easy’s high levels of obesity and related ailments.

    ‘We’re just sicker,’ said Rebekah Gee, to the Wall Street Journal, who until January was the health secretary for Louisiana and now heads Louisiana State University’s healthcare services division.

    New Orleans residents suffer from obesity, diabetes and hypertension at rates higher than the national average, conditions that doctors and public health officials say can make patients more vulnerable to COVID-19, the highly contagious respiratory disease.”

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  • Q. GP why are you spending so much time on your religious blog when it is evident to all that your expertise is required here on these medical blogs. Just asking.

    A. I DONT SPEND AS MUCH TIME ON MY BIBLE BLOG. I SIMPLY POST PDFS OF POWER POINTS OF SERMONS THAT I HAVE GIVEN IN CENTRAL FLORIDA IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
    I HAVE STUDIED THE WORD WELL FOR OVER 50 YEARS, AND WHAT I LIKE ABOUT IT, IS THAT IT DOES NOT CHANGE.

    I HAVE, NOT OPINED ON MY VIEW OF THE PANDEMIC IN THE LIGHT OF THE OLIVET DISCOURCE

    WHEREAS I UNDERSTAND AND HAVE TAUGHT AND STILL TEACH MANY OF THE BASIC MEDICAL SCIENCES AND CAN EXPLAIN THESE THINGS WELL. I DO NOT CONSIDER THAT I HAVE ANY REAL EXPERTISE OR EXPERIENCE ON THE COVID VIRUS. SO I STICK TO MY PRINCIPLE OF PONTIFICATING ON WHAT I KNOW WELL.

    I DO CHECK IN WHEN REALLY BORED TO AMUSE MYSELF ON THE RUBBISH POSTED BY THE EQUALLY INEXPERIENCED. AND TO READ THE STELLAR CONTRIBUTIONS OF DR LUCAS, FOR WHOM I HAVE GREAT RESPECT

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  • This clear disparity in salaries, healthcare and basic access to many social services which also causes EXTREME GENERATIONAL POVERTY even when no plague is around will cause extremely high levels of death anywhere the disease is rampaging…..including in Barbados.

    “A 2017 report by the Joseph Rowntree Charitable Trust on race and poverty found that the UK poverty rate was twice as high for BME communities than for white groups, citing rising levels of unemployment amongst African, mixed-race and Caribbean groups especially, and low-paid work as driving factors.

    “BME groups in the UK are amongst the poorest of socioeconomic groups. There are extremely high rates of child poverty and they’re much more likely to be employed in low-paid, precarious work. They’re also much more likely to be living in multigenerational households, which makes BME elderly people more at risk of severe illness from COVID-19,” Haque said.

    “BME women are particularly vulnerable as they are more likely to be in precarious work than their white counterparts,” she added.”

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  • @ Enuff April 7, 2020 6:57 PM

    Far more harmful than Corona is a brain bug called panic. I advocate shutting down WhatsApp in Barbados for the duration of the crisis.

    Given the constant panic attacks, I wonder if WARU, our keyboard warrior, is actually writing from the South or not from New York City, where mountains of corpses are now piling up so high that the authorities internally are even thinking of cremating the deceased in the waste incinerator.

    From a medical point of view, we will weather the crisis far better than many failed states such as the USA or UK. Corona´s spread in the tropics is only linear and is therefore much easier to control than in the north. We will talk about the economic consequences and the implications for the lazy civil service another time.

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  • WW

    the family of three that died got infected from staying in their house?

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  • The same people condemning the government’s decision not to close down the borders are promoting the re-opening of supermarkets. Clown show!

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  • the opened supermarkets once everyone follows the safety distance…is not the problem..people still go to doctor’s offices on the island, 8has anyone visiting those offices been infected…they should not be staying as long as it take to pick up some items at a supermarket…

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    can you answer the question that you asked (in highlight) after talking so much about the super spreaders?

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  • when you go out with you gloves and your mask who do you do with them when you return home?

    I hope you know the technique/procedure for putting on and taking off PPE to avoid contamination

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  • but wait WW why you going in the supermarkets and supporting the elite/ house negros? buy your food from the local farmers .

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  • Enuff
    Govt leaving the borders open is what caused the problem
    Now a whole country must suffer because of that ill adviced decision
    Opening the supermarkets with certain restrictions would take care of the problem of social distancing
    You will find that in America in areas where there are hot spots large chain supermarkets are open but with restrictions applied
    Barbadian 26 cabinet is not fit for purpose
    This idea of 3 prepkg bags is a typical policy for rationing food
    Why is it that supermarkets in america can remain opened and havev no problem with social distancing

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  • You will find that in America in areas where there are hot spots large chain supermarkets are open but with restrictions applied

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    can you say that no one contacted the virus from going into one of these supermarkets?

    Does Barbados have access to the resources that USA have?

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  • John2
    April 7, 2020 8:21 PM

    Does Barbados have access to the resources that USA have?
    Xxccccvcvvvvvvvvvvvvbbbbbnn

    Enough reason why govt should have closed their borders
    This longwinded song and dance about nationals has run its course
    What is transpiring are deaths and rise in infections some of which are visitors that govt gave access to the island ports and with the access brought the virus

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  • yes mari

    the returning national will be a song and dance and run it course for you now, just to suit your purposes but we on BU already got you view on it …….

    You cant be for the trini taking their nationals and be against Barbados taking theirs. unless you are a hypocrite…….oh well…..

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  • by the way – I am still waiting for one of you that want to ports to be close to tell me/ BU how many tourist came into the island today, yesterday, day before and last week.

    AA rep told me to ask you that mari but I placing it for all the others

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  • Mariposa
    If they had closed the borders from day one you would have opposed it. If they had left nationals stranded, you would have ranted. They closed the supermarkets, yuh complained people need food. They are re-opening so people can get food, yuh calling it communism. I don’t pay you any mind because airport staff ain’t even working but you’re claiming tourists still coming. The spaghetti isn’t sticking, this is a global issue–731 people died in NYC today, not tested positive…DIED. So rest me and your politcking.

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  • They cannot leave nationals stranded
    However if the borders were closed
    The airlines would be notified and no tickets would be issued to this destinations
    Meaning that no nationals or visitors would be arriving
    By leaving the borders open ran a high risk
    Having said all the above govt only main reason as said by PM was to keep thousands of people working mainly in the tourism industry
    She even made mention of taxi and shuttle services
    Who could have ran the risk of accommodating people who came from high risk areas

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  • Enuff u can.call my comments politicking
    I call them a look through the eyes of reality
    People are dying and people have been infected ..fact ..real.
    Any one who is being political are the foot soldiers whose eyes are closed to reality

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  • Mari

    Are you aware that most airline tickets are bought well in advance?
    Are you aware that they were still visitors on the island that need to get back to their countries?

    Are you now saying that the by closing the borders the bajan national should remain in the countries they visited and the tourist that were on the island should have remained here?
    or
    The bajan nationals remain in the countries they visited (indefinitely) and the planes come to Barbados empty just to take back the visitors that were still on the island?

    put yourself in the boot of a bajan national that had visited another country for one reason or another – all didn’t travel just for pleasure.

    what was your proposal?
    oh, you now have to think about it!

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  • Is there something with wanting to keep those in the tourism industry working? don’t they have to eat and feed etc their families also, just like the government workers who bread will be butter (at least in the short term) even if there are now at home?

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  • Personally, I would have like the country to be closed down (as in 24 hrs curfew) earlier then when government did it. but I do understand that government has it advisors and many constituents and cannot please all of us at the sametime. whatever it does some will complain. this goes for all goverments not just Barbados and if DEM were in power they would be getting hit for some decision that they made. I for one don’t think the DEM would have closed the borders so early and it would have been the same reasons as the BEES.

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  • Mariposa,

    Fact 1: The virus came from China.

    Fact 2: The DLP government concluded numerous contracts with China between 2008 and 2018, including a contract allowing Chinese to enter Barbados unhindered.

    Conclusion: DLP is solely responsible for the corona deaths in Barbados.

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