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The following comment was posted by local microbiologist Dr. Robert Lucas to another blog – Bajans Jettison Social Distancing for Cheek by Jowl. The blogmaster regards it as one of the most important points shared on Barbados Underground since the status of COVID 19 was elevated by Prime Minister Mia Mottley.

David, Barbados Underground

Let me repeat what I have stated elsewhere on the Blog.

The curfew has to rigorously enforced. Once this is done, there is no need for contact tracing. I will explain.

Those who manifest symptoms are easily managed. It is person Z who comes into contact with a person (asymptomatic or beginning to show signs) and is unaware of the fact, who poses the immediate threat. By having the curfew and rigidly enforcing it, means that person Z is localized to a fixed area.

There will be more than one person who qualifies for the nomenclature Z. Since the curfew is rigidly enforced when the Zs become ill and use the hotline, hot spots are known. There will be a number of these hot spots. There should be isolated and all persons in the vicinity of the Z’ screened and placed into mandatory quarantine. No crap about voluntary quarantine.

For this method to work, it means that very tough enforcement it needed. None of this crap about human rights and individual liberty. Human rights and so on can be dealt with after the situation is under control…

Elsewhere on the Blog, I said that a twenty-eight day curfew was needed. I explain my reasoning as follows: there would be different viral incubation times for different individuals. Twenty-eight days would appear to be time for all individuals to show manifestations of the infection.

 

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688 responses to “Local Microbiologist Calls for Curfew to be Extended to 28 Days”

  1. Greene Avatar
    Greene

    quote] The social distancing policy makes sense only if the virus can be passed by asymptomatic persons. How come the front line workers at the QEH who cannot practise social distancing and still take care of patients, are not tested, nor are they permitted to test the patients admitted whom they cannot be socially distanced from on a day to day basis.
    ERW [unquote

    i am having some difficulty understanding this.

    is this saying that there should be no social distancing?

    is there no evidence to suggest that asymptomatic persons could pass on the virus?

    the point is taken about the front line workers.

    altho E.R. Walrond does not speak to this issue, no one knows enuff about this virus to assert any truths and anyone who say or thinks so, is either lying or not telling the truth

  2. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin

    Why is the US amassing troops around Venezuela, with the navy off Trinidad? What a nice diversion. Has CARICOM been informed?

  3. John Avatar
    John

    If animals get it then how do we curfew our household pets?

    I note this Tiger was in New York.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/tiger-at-nycs-bronx-zoo-tests-positive-for-coronavirus/ar-BB12coPu?ocid=spartandhp

  4. John Avatar
    John

    What is the recommended social distancing when around tigers?

  5. robert lucas Avatar
    robert lucas

    @ Crusoe April 6, 2020 1:29 AM

    You could be right that about three months would be needed for the reasons you listed.

  6. Greene Avatar
    Greene

    @Hal

    i will assume those are rhetorical questions

  7. JOHN2 Avatar
    JOHN2

    The reason it was not an AA flight because AA slots were already fully booked for that date
    I done wid u jac.a.ss
    Do like David and stay out of the fray

    XXXXXXXX

    A FULL PLANE LEAVING AN INFECTED COUNTRY GOING TO ANOTHER INFECTED COUNTRY WITH A 14 DAY FOR ARRIVALS CURFEW?????

    YOU REALLY THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE ASSES?

    THE COUNTRY IS PRACTICING SOCIAL DISTANCING AND AIRLINES ARE LOSING HUGH AMOUNT OF MONEY AND AA WILL RISK A LAW SUIT FROM PACKING A PLANE WITH POTENTIAL CARRIERS?

    COME WITH ANOTHER LIE! aa NOR THE PASSENGER AINT THAT STUPED BUT OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE STUPID AND A GREAT BIG LIAR.

    COME AGAIN

  8. Greene Avatar
    Greene

    quote] On Thursday evening, a business executive from a leading group of companies said,  “Giving the whole country one day to shop for two weeks is madness. People who would have stayed home will now go to PriceSmart.

    “And all you need is three or four r—holes cutting into the two-metre spaces everybody else was leaving in the line, and people will get frustrated. I don’t blame them. It’s human nature.

    “They should have announced, on Thursday night, that the groceries would not open again until 15 April. What they were trying to prevent, they’ve encouraged. Plenty more people will get it now.”  [unquote

    https://newsday.co.tt/2020/04/05/chaos-in-barbados-as-groceries-ordered-shut/

  9. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin

    @ Greene

    Yes. The US never surprises me. Ever since the Monroe Doctrine the US has thought we are their backyard. Sometimes they outsource the policing to Canada.
    It is amazing that at a time like this Trump/Pompeo want a fight – an unnecessary fight. What has CARICOM to say about the build-up. Where is our ambassador?
    Of course, if our president cannot even get Bajans to queue properly at supermarkets what do you expect.

  10. ks Avatar
    ks

    I believe I could ‘survive’ a 28 day curfew as proposed by Dr. Lucas… IF I can get FOOD!!!

    A couple weeks ago, we were publicly shamed for going to the supermarkets and ‘hoarding’ …. was not necessary, they said with radio ads ….. then lo & behold, we get 24-hrs notice that supermarkets will be closed! Result??? Panic and long lines of people ignoring social-distancing….. what did they expect?? Don’t we have anyone trained in human behavior in Govt.!

    Those who hoarded, now laughing at the rest of us!!!

    The Govt. also said, last week, they would discuss with the supermarkets to accommodate home delivery…… discussions done yet??? Today is Monday!

    Looking forward, I hope this Covid experience bring about some ‘changes’. There are so many that comes to mind …. the UWI would do well to host a post-Covid Conference on such a topic!
    The Govt. should build-up a cadre of trained persons to handle disaster management …. not the square pegs in round holes that proliferate due to political patronage! Send them overseas to witness, first-hand, various disasters …. not book-worm learners!

    Opps…. there I go, starting the ‘conference’ already!

  11. Greene Avatar
    Greene

    2nd Covid death in Bim? 56 for 2 is now the score?

  12. JOHN2 Avatar
    JOHN2

    Another concern that govt ought to bear in mind that some of these flights are long and cumbersome and on arrival people are tired and just dont want to be bother having to undergo another series of test which they might have done before at another airport ( or told they have to be quarantine ) this is part of human nature one which Govt cannot figure and which( is) and can

    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    BUT YET YOU WANT US TO BELIEVE THAT FULLY BOOK PLANES ARE COMING TO BARBADOS WHEN THEY ARE TOLD THEY HAVE TO 14 DAY QUARANTINE

    MORNING WORDS AND EVENING WORDS DONT EVER ADD UP.

  13. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    People in the diaspora are still crying shame at the amateur way this shutdown of supermarkets was handled, maybe next time they will get it right….no one is blaming the vulnerabe people who feel they were used as political pawns to prove a non point.

  14. Mariposa Avatar
    Mariposa

    Hal
    Caricom has demonstrated with this ongoing crisis that they are toothless paper tigers
    In as much as some of the leadership hate Washington not one of the heads of govt could bring a comprehensive plan to table by which they could unilaterally agreed on handling the crisis and safe guard the social and economically security of the entire region
    Just look at them now as they cower in fear running from the unbelievable mistakes they have made in handling the crisis and blaming ever Tom dick and harry for their incompetence
    Yet meanwhile waiting and looking upon washington for social and economical guidelines…yesterday i lol when minister bostic said Washington had seized the ventilators
    My first thought was who should they blame fool
    Of course not themselves lol
    A whole region of paper tigers as leaders in this region which Corona has exposed
    God help us all the people just doesnt deserve this kinda sh.it

  15. Wily Coyote Avatar
    Wily Coyote

    Hal Austin April 6, 2020 8:27 AM

    “Why is the US amassing troops around Venezuela,”

    If I’ve read news and video reports correctly FANCE & BRITIAN also have Navy vessels making up the congregation in the area, hummmmm. Not good timing for any kind of military confrontation in this time of COVID 19. Not much info showing up an Google so do not know at this time if reports are creditable.

  16. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin

    @ Wily

    We have CARICOM, a Regional security force, all member states have coastguards – surely they must know what is going on in their own backyards.
    I am sure the Russians and Chinese know what is going on. Why the silence?

  17. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @David, re “The WHO declared the pandemic on March 11, 2020. Should we give the octogenarians a pass Peter predicated on age.”

    And what are we going to give the WHO for that absurdly late call of March 11 …this thing was widespread in Wuhan in late Dec 2019 … Leaders of the local version of CDC in Wuhan told US counterparts in the first week of Jan 2020… The WHO should have KNOWN better than to accept BS and Chinese fabrications and wait over 60 days to declare a pandemic …

    China, SHUTDOWN…repeat SHUTDOWN Wuhan, a major industrial city of 11 mil people on Jan 22/23!… That was unprecedented and on hindsight we can now say the world changed forever with what at the time was a stunning announcement!

    Personal responsibility is vital so yes, an 80 year old or even a 20 year old should be blamed for their apparent selfishness. But we need answers from the very top in order to properly resolve and understand getting back to economic activity.

    Thus I have an opposite view on whether the assessment that there may not be “… enough data as yet to make a certain prognosis of time. […] the data is there, broadly, but not what a scientist would accept as proof. In this circumstance we use logic and commonsense to manage.”

    Wuhan was opened on March 8th… it was in lockdown for 76 days…not 28, not 14. Initial reports (we take with a grain of salt, yes) are that things are returning to some levels of normalcy… but that closure and all that was done there is HARD evidence of fact…scientific and logical and commonsense!

    China also implemented draconian geotagging practicses: citizens were tagged via phone and other electronic means (biometrics) as red, yellow or green on a possible infection scale and were prevented from mingling based on that.

    So is even 76 days good enough for other countries who will not have that level of intrusiveness??

    The virus (unless a vaccine is found) is with us for a while…we can only reduce its impact by first aggressively reducing its initial contagion and then minimizing future contagion… how many days at the first step…right now it appears to be 70 days and counting!

  18. Redguard Avatar
    Redguard

    It seems the countries doing the best have a few things in common. They are testing a lot, they have a stable government, they get their messaging and strategy right from the start and their citizens trust the leadership and have not resisted the measures.
    Germany, Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore are such examples

  19. john2 Avatar
    john2

    DPD

    When should the flu be declared a pandemic? chine is only one country and wahun is only one area

    Wuhan was shut for how long??? I didn’t hear about anyone dieing from starvation. yet in Barbados……..

  20. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @Greene, pardon this intrusion but you are mischaractetizing the remarks from the @Waldron blogger!

    He said ” The social distancing policy makes sense only if the virus can be passed by asymptomatic persons. How come the front line workers at the QEH who cannot practise social distancing and still take care of patients, are not tested, nor are they permitted to test the patients admitted whom they cannot be socially distanced from on a day to day basis.”

    The social distancing policy makes sense only if the virus can be passed by asymptomatic persons
    Does this not validate what is now known: If u have the virus but don’t know it yourself then I definitely need to be 6ft away from you to safeguard myself.

    Thus, if I am seeing patients who can be asymptomatic and I am NOT being tested or NOT testing them then the entire process falls in on itself as on one hsnd I the health care worker can now become an asymptomatic carrier affecting everyone I am treating!

    He/she is definitely not saying “that there should be no social distancing”

    Nor asserting any truths beyond what is already accepted as facts!

    Just another interpretation of the same data… as I say here often: the joys of English!

  21. john2 Avatar
    john2

    China, SHUTDOWN…repeat SHUTDOWN Wuhan, a major industrial city of 11 mil people on Jan 22/23!…

    Wuhan was opened on March 8th… it was in lockdown for 76 days…not 28, not 14.

    Just felt it needed repeating

  22. Te Watcher Avatar
    Te Watcher

    This clearly shows a lack or rational thought.
    As a Microbiologist, you should know that a virus has to work its way through a population. Period. You cant now come with draconian measures and expect to contain it when back in January and February of this year, we were all “Gatherin” and mingling with persons from the very places that now seem to be the targets of outbreaks.
    Additionally, NONE of you! Not ONE of you is preaching public health. No one is speaking to any appreciable measure abut improving and boosting immunity which is where ANY infection is really fought, at the individual level and not in the court of public opinion or in fearmongering or silly measures like these that we are seeing now.
    So shutting down a country with no monetary reserves for a month is suicide.
    People dying in these conditions that we are now facing the result of a number of things.
    Poor underlying health
    Bad diet
    No Exercise
    Mis-diagnosis etc etc.
    And don’t even point to NYC as a reason for justifying your wish because that is the CAPITAL of poor health. Look at their diets of fast food,the abundance of coffee and other diuretics in use which prevent their intracelluar fluids from effectively removing toxins from their bodies, low or no exercise at all , soft drinks laden with sugars and High-Fructose corn syrup ( which the body cant process) and generally, highly acidic bodies full of inflammation which cant be removed effectively by the mechanisms which are supposed to work to remove them.
    It is therefore no wonder they are dropping like flies on a carcass poisoned with Furadan.
    This is an ill-conceived action which is going to be grossly detrimental at he end of it all. I find it interesting that in the Chikungunya outbreak ( which is also questionable) there wasn’t a national mobilization plan to shutting the country down. And that spread more rapidly across the population to my mind than this did.
    Deaths at the level of fractions of a percentage point relative to the general population do not justify or warrant an action that will be generally financially disastrous to all.
    Unfortunately, we are signing from a hymn-sheet that we don’t seem to understand the language that its written in furthermore the meaning of the song. But were singing like everyone else ( apparently ) with what appears to be the exception of the Saudis, more affluent countries of the Middle East who we aren’t hearing much from and a few others. All very strange behavior indeed.

  23. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    Will someone from the fowl brigade please DENY THIS..it’s being shared all over FB. There are still the gullible being told AND believing that gathering is safe, they must be WARNED that it is not, to shelter in place.

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1292342680975268&id=100005986451739

  24. Miller Avatar
    Miller

    (Quote):
    Why is the US amassing troops around Venezuela…(Unquote).
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Where are the ‘friendly’ Chinese and bearish Russians when they are needed most to stop the bullies in their tracks of the invasion of the Bolivar land of an easy target whose only negotiable asset (crude oil) is now worth a dime a barrel?

    Is this move just another bone of a diversionary tactic thrown at the dogs in the scrambling mass media to divert attention from the real enemy called Covid stalking Yankee country?

    Why should the world want to start another big war when it already has a ‘microscopically larger’ one raging on its hands?

  25. Redguard Avatar
    Redguard

    @ Te Watcher, success in this war is dependent on multiple factors.
    Ability to test, critical care capacity of the healthcare system and the relationship between citizens and the government. We are struggling on all three. The draconian measures Dr. Lucas suggests are the only way to give us time to get more test kits and getting more ICU beds, PPe and ventilators.
    The relationship between government and citizens is not easily fixed but improved messaging and strategies will go a long way

  26. Tell Truths Avatar
    Tell Truths

    @ wilycoyote

    You come on a blog to tell people shite,

    People who live in glass houses should not throw stones.

    JOIN IN THE DISCUSSION, YOU NEVER KNOW HOW EXPRESSING YOUR VIEW MAY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

  27. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @Jonh2, I am no scientist by training or even worked around the discipline so I can only approach your question based on my business and management background.

    You asked “When should the flu be declared a pandemic? chine is only one country and wahun is only one area”

    Ok, 1. There are obviously set protocols for asserting a ‘pandemic… but lets analyze this rationally…and then I will Google and see what’s the actual criteria…

    So, 2 the first Wuhan patient was on Dec 1, 2019…within 30 days… I repeat 30 days… the then called SARS virus had rapidly spread from that single city and person to the entire country …. that’s an explosion from 11 million to 1.6 billion or whatever is the pop of China… of course not everyone was infected but it was all over that nation in 30 days.

    Moreover, 3) before (and even after) the US travel restrictions from China over a 500,000 had already flown into US and similiarly large numbers into Iran, Italy, Africa etc…..Remember also 4) in early Jan the Chinese a) refused any foreign teams access to the virus details for testing and 2) said there was NO person to person contamination….

    So senor 5) if by end Jan early Feb major cities across China are seeing this virus and its in Italy, Iran and US and understand there are 100s other countries which had flight connection from some city in China during that time… if for the analysts and scientists who do this as their life’s work and that’s now a fundamental alert of ‘pandemic’ then i am lost.

    So now..I’ll check: They say that according to the CDC broadly that a “pandemic is an epidemic that’s spread over several countries or continents and affects a large percent of the population”…with an epidemic being a major health outbreak over a larger area or region.

    So from end of Jan mid -Feb for an alert of a pandemic on Mar 11… and now we talking about invading another country.

    This political quagmire of BS that we call life will kill us all, just now.

    I gone

  28. John Avatar
    John

    Miller
    April 6, 2020 11:05 AM

    (Quote):
    Why is the US amassing troops around Venezuela…(Unquote).
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Where are the ‘friendly’ Chinese and bearish Russians when they are needed most to stop the bullies in their tracks of the invasion of the Bolivar land of an easy target whose only negotiable asset (crude oil) is now worth a dime a barrel?
    Is this move just another bone of a diversionary tactic thrown at the dogs in the scrambling mass media to divert attention from the real enemy called Covid stalking Yankee country?
    Why should the world want to start another big war when it already has a ‘microscopically larger’ one raging on its hands?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    How much oil does China get from Venezuela?

  29. Tell Truths Avatar
    Tell Truths

    @ Mariposa

    Your comments and those of your opponents have created a brilliant case study in mass stupidity. Your BU enemies, led by the idiot in chief, have a deep commitment to loyalty: to everything Barbados and Barbadian; to the president and her incompetence; and to each other.
    Yet, when you demonstrate loyalty: to your party, they bring down the wrath of Hell on you. Why is their loyalty more sincere than yours. Then there are those who make no positive contributions to debates, in that they do not make any original contributions, but spend all their time dissecting what you have said, looking for the minutiae of truths and mistakes, which they exaggerate in to great howlers and then the keyboard warriors descend.
    The reality is that it is not you, nor your views they oppose, but what you represent. They look in the mirror and they see you.

    dddddddddddddddddddd

    So very true.

  30. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    “And what are we going to give the WHO for that absurdly late call of March 11 …this thing was widespread in Wuhan in late Dec 2019 … Leaders of the local version of CDC in Wuhan told US counterparts in the first week of Jan 2020… The WHO should have KNOWN better than to accept BS and Chinese fabrications and wait over 60 days to declare a pandemic.”

    People are still acting like they are UNABLE TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES….these organizations get infiltrated all the time…..it is NOT the earth’s first pandemic and will not be the last…every year everyone prepares for flu seaon….well after centuries of having them and knowing they exist…PLAGUES SHOULD BE TREATED THE SAME….the millions who died through the ages had no access to information as we do….not even our parents and grandparents had this luxury….that is why so many died….so what is our excuse? And don’t forget to pass on the information about plagues to current and future generations..

    The time some take to count other people’s comments….or in the fowls case to post misinformation…that time could be better spent doing constructive research to save your lives or that of your families, because this is just the beginning. Some of us did our research in December, saw the writing on the wall, started preparing, tried to share the seriousness of the situation and were ridiculed by the not too bright…ya can only carry a donkey to water…..

  31. John Avatar
    John

    … plus, the State Department has a $15 million reward on Maduro’s head!!

  32. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @Miller, re “Why should the world want to start another big war when it already has a ‘microscopically larger’ one raging on its hands?”…. That’s what they do!

    There is a video featuring Jack Ma (Alibaba CEO n billionaire) where he is asked pointedly about US- China and trade and one assertion he made was as pointed… he said that in last 30 years the US engaged in 13 wars and spent over $13 trillion !

    He then went on to speak to how that money could have been better deployed beyond warfare….so if it’s war again… then it’s here we go again..death, pain and US arrogant ridiculousness.

    Anyone here needs to be reminded that President Noreiga of Panama was also accused of drug trafficking and was unceremoniously taken to US where he was eventually jailed and that France was complicit with all that.

    Things look about the same the more we think they change, n’est pas!

  33. Miller Avatar
    Miller

    @ John April 6, 2020 11:19 AM
    “How much oil does China get from Venezuela?”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The same as the Americans.

    So why is America trying to engage in a zero-sum war game at this stage of global troubles?

    Aren’t the same old ‘tired’ arguments of protecting democracy once used against Cuba being used today against the Bolivarian republic?

    Why not go and invade Cuba its backyard enemy since 1959?

  34. Tell Truths Avatar
    Tell Truths

    @ Dr Lucas

    It is amazing how many of your local Bajan people come out the woodwork to attack you.

    CRAB IN THE BARREL MENTALITY.

  35. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    Again…what about the people who have NO WATER…during a pandemic, the island is filled with those victims….forget the excuses about low water pressure and blah, blah, both governments have had decades and billions of dollars in taxpayer’s money and billions more in IDB, CDB, this and that loans to fix the problem, where is the money.

    wait, is Horse Hill and the St.Joseph not the AGs area to represent, so where is the representation.

    “Good day everyone my heart is burden in this serious time. It is hurting me to know that we the people of Horse Hill and surrounding areas are having water outage for four continuous days, at a time like this when we have a serious pandemic on our hands. Are we not human beings too, don’t they think we have needs and children to protect. What is really going on can someone tell me. You would think that at this time u would want all barbadians to be safe. This certainly is inhumane. Where is our representative, does he only care around election time. I do not use these platforms but today I’m force to because this is utter madness. We need water PLEASE!
    posting now
    Barbados March 29-2020 Sunday”

  36. robert lucas Avatar
    robert lucas

    It has just been announced over V.O.B’s 12.30 PM news that Trinidad and Tobago are extending the total shut down beyond 15th. April.

  37. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin

    @ Tell Truths

    Do you see a pattern. Sometime ago, years now, there was some issue about macroeconomics and I made a comment on BU. One of he regulars came back and, quoting from a UK financial journalist, said that I said A &B, but this guy is saying C&D. The implication being that this guy was either right, or in any case the author preferred to believe him.
    I responded by pointing that I had been a journalist before this guy, who I knew, (he was aged in his late 30s at the time), had been an editor longer than he had been in journalism, we were both immigrants (I born in the Caribbean, and this guy in France) and we had the same level of education. And I asked him if presented with those two CVs who would he believe.
    To this day he has not replied. It is the Barbadian Condition. A small island like Barbados cannot afford to marginalise the talents and knowledge of someone of the calibre of @Robert Lucas.
    While we are at it, I am campaigning for the outstanding historian Keith Sandiford, our greatest living historian, to be made a knight.

  38. robert lucas Avatar
    robert lucas

    @ Te Watcher April 6, 2020 10:37 AM

    is clearly shows a lack or rational thought.
    As a Microbiologist, you should know that a virus has to work its way through a population.”

    You idiot. If the drastic measures are enforced and all persons infected are placed in mandatory quarantine, the infection dies out. There is no way for it to go.
    It is analogous to the herd factor in a way

    I repeat again , :You are an idiot and I make no apologies for saying so. You haven’t got the necessary technical training in the discipline to pass any competent opinion on any microbiological matter..

  39. John Avatar
    John

    Miller
    April 6, 2020 11:47 AM

    @ John April 6, 2020 11:19 AM
    “How much oil does China get from Venezuela?”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    The same as the Americans.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    America self sufficient in oil, net exporter!!

  40. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Who gives an RH about knighthoods? Please! They belong in our history! And who is thinking about RH knighthoods at this time????????

  41. John2 Avatar
    John2

    Dpd

    Seem like u wanted it to be called a pandemic from the time it was in China

    Are there dufferent protocols that world save lifes or reduce infection when the name is changed from epidemic to pandemic?

  42. robert lucas Avatar
    robert lucas

    @Tell Truths April 6, 2020 11:58 AM

    I am accustomed to the barbs made by persons who to save their lives could not make a button.

  43. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    I guess the Orange Turd needs a distraction. And a rallying cry from the bloodthirsty “patriots” . I thought he was against America as the policemen of the world. He should not be concerned with the political affairs of Venezuelans no matter what the people are suffering.

    Oops! I forgot. The NEW CHARGE is drug trafficking. So very convenient!

  44. Mariposa Avatar
    Mariposa

    Trinidad has over 100 infections

  45. John2 Avatar
    John2

    All the differences to me is a change in name to Express how far the unfection has spread

    After it passed 1 milloin they could have called it by another name
    Countries and people will still respond how they Choose to

  46. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    I will be so happy, just like many when the electorate throws this slave mentality promoting government out on its backside.

    https://www.facebook.com/jackie.stewart.965/videos/1292515124291357/?t=1

  47. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    LOL @John2, my interest is not in a name, per se. It’s in the intentions and political posturing.

    I’m sure you also know that in US the Intel services were filing briefs and giving advice on what was happening in China from early Jan… it’s absolutely expected that DGS in France , MI6 and the boys n girls in German Intel were seeing similar things and sounding similar alarms and referring to their ‘pandemic’ crisis playbook since early Jan.

    So I could care less WHAT they call it.. I want to know how they were all seemingly flat footed in acting!

    The US as all here know did a massive review after 9-11 and consequently revamped their ENTIRE intel apparatus…to their credit the Bits, Frenchies and the others were less dramatic…so what did all that change accomplish if they couldn’t pin the tail on this donkey or name this rose, if you prefer!

  48. Mariposa Avatar
    Mariposa

    Govt has yet to have a competent work force along with proper planning to monitor the airport
    Also the Thursday havoc and govt has not designed a feasible plan for correction
    All one hear is govt calling on the people to make sacrifice
    Yet govt role towards good goverance exemplified by good leadership is missing
    A two week shut down as of now and people cannot adopt and adjust to govt hot and sweaty not well planned out measures
    Cant possibly see how a 30mth shutdown would work having this lot steering the ship called Corona

  49. John2 Avatar
    John2

    The us planbed invasion seem to be s hoax

    Not one word of it on Any new channel near me

  50. Tell Truths Avatar
    Tell Truths

    @ waru

    So the major Contractor is C O Williams a White man reaping the sweets in the good times and bad times whilst the Black masses suffer.

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