Successive Governments Turn Blind Eye to Squatters at Grantley Adams International Airport

The blogmaster received several requests to highlight the matter raised in today’s Sunday Sun (p.3) under the heading SQUATTING OUT OF CONTROL.

BU followers from the 2008 period will recall the issue of unbridled immigration frequently debated in this space. The blogmaster defended a position that unchecked immigration was not the best policy. There were many stories reported about Guyanese being taken advantage of in the construction sector. There is one story about pig pens being rented to Guyanese which still resonates with the blogmaster.

Then there was the Shanique Myrie affair which brought to the fore the growing number of night club dancers and prostitutes visiting Barbados to earn a living under the freedom of movement (CSME) arrangement.  To some of us who are not ostriches, we are aware it is big business – we have the island girls, however less is said about the Europeans on the West Coast here to do a similar job.

There were a few talking heads and bleeding hearts who promoted the view that the blogmaster was xenophobic for wanting to manage immigration to Barbados. In this matter we cannot give Ambassador to Caricom David Commisiong a pass. We respect the fact he is a declared regionalist, however, an ideology cannot be at the expense of being pragmatic or exercising commonsense. Practising open borders makes no sense for any country especially a small island like Barbados.

Today’s Sunday Sun story details what happens when national imperatives are sacrificed at the altar of stupidity. From 2007 when 36 squatters gathered at Rock Hall, St. Philip and were served notice to vacate the area to 2019 where the recent count is 300.

Aviation officials have complained that the galvanize roofs of the squatter’s (illegal)  houses pose a threat to air traffic. The blogmaster can say with certainty that in any well managed country squatters would not have been allowed to plant houses in the zone space of an international airport. And importantly now that it has been brought again to public attention, no sensible member of parliament for the area would be quoted as follows: –

I am doing a compilation of the information. We are collating data on the situation at Rock Hall. We went out in the field in about three occasions, but there is so much to compile…[the exercise he said was not about] chasing people off the land.

Really Minister Indar Weir? You must be given the award for the WTF statement.

Here is what we know, we have 300 hundred illegal structures built in an airport zone. Here it is we are being told, Barbados is proceeding to acquire Category I designation and your enlightened government has been turning a blind eye to the squatting at Rock Hall?

The other point to note is that YOU Minister Weir and representative for St. Phillip South would have canvassed this areas just over one year ago to solicit votes. What collating data on the situation what!

You politicians are all the Rh same. The blogmaster recalls Don Blackman and Trevor Prescod doing the same as you dealing with the squatters in the water zone of the Belle many years ago.

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  • We have to wonder about you sometimes. The governments created the problem however according to you they must add to the problem by bulldozing houses that will affect nearly 1000 people including senior citizens and children? There must be a humanitarian solution.

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  • @ David BU

    Mariposa is an idiot.

    Although the BLP should take some blame for allowing the number of squatters to increase to 96 by 2007, it is the DLP the wove the tangled web to deceive, when the ILLEGAL activity was ALLOWED to CONTINUE UNABATED under the watch of former parliamentary representative for the area and attorney general, Adriel Brathwaite and the minister responsible for TCPD at the time, former PM Freundel Stuart.

    Both of them allowed the number of squatters to increase to over 300, mainly to manipulate these people into voting for the DLP.

    It has created a mess which this current administration now has to deal with, at the expense of the taxpayers.

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  • David i gave legal resolution as necessary
    My last comment for bull dozing was tongue in cheek
    However i do clearly remember seeing pictures front page media a few years ago of govt officials bulldozing houses where their were occupants living
    So dont come here with your holier than thou political agenda to smear
    Bulldozing is not houses is not a new “thing” to the political landscape
    As a matter of fact i saw those pictures in the news media as revolting and took steps for humanitarian changes to be done
    Apparently the changes took place since those pictures as well as the bulldozing of occupied houses stopped
    Btw noticed u never made mention of a pending problem of nationals returning home who were not given legal status to live in America and its impact on the socio economics of barbados which means a problem left in the hand of govt to resolve
    I read where the PM of other Carribbean countries were very concerned as well talking of criminal elements which can be problematic

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  • Now that the squatters has said No.How will govt deal with the problem
    This govt has found itself In the cross hairs of political gymnastics at the safety of the flying public and a political elephant that is adamant that it would not be challenged

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  • If one researches the events leading up to the 2007 with regard to the Rock Hall squatting saga it would seem that much of the blame should go to a Mr Douglas Trotman who it could be said used the situation to his own advantage to unseat Wood by running as an independent. During that time , when it appeared that Mr Trotman was speaking on behalf of the squatters to garner votes which would have given the real DLP candidate the advantage since neither Wood nor the real DLP candidate could appear to be supporting the irresponsible squatters given that the same former Senior Aviation Official who spoke so eloquently on brass tacks on Friday had warned of the dangers of squatting in the area. Now i am wondering if this is the same Mr Trotman who is apparently offering to broker a settlement with an offer of land for sale to Govt in the mix.

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  • The Government needs to sit down and think these things through before making irrational statements. Illegal immigrants like illegal squatters have no rights. The issue is not whether the Gov was lax in their duty but the removal of the squatters who present a clear and present danger to the safety f aviation in the country. They have to go.

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  • Squatters have rights.

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  • Now govt can not rest on its laurel and play blame game
    The issue has come down to safety
    As for squatters right
    A court would not overlook the safety of the flying public to rule in favour of squatters
    All rights are not a guarantee when safety becomes first and foremost
    Eg like shouting fire in a crowded place

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  • What rights do squatters have, apart from being bulldozed?

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  • People have a right to be protected by government. If people cannot find a place to life they will squat. Minister Weir explained today greater than 70% squatting are locals. We need to find humane solutions especially if the government is complicit.

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  • There are laws that give squatters rights to occupation of land or property
    However there are plenty stipulations additionally such as proof and time period of occupation

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  • One can bet that many or all of the squatters do not have any form of legal documentation to show proof towards becoming owners

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  • Bad laws make for a bad democracy. What about the poor owners of the land, many of whom are overseas?

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  • Squatting is not an alternative to the provision of social housing.

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  • If legitimate housing is not provided for people is needs on the lower socioeconomic rung they will squat. This has been the case through the ages.

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  • Also wrapped around this issues are policies that govt have implemented such as rhe writing off of debt through waivers which undoubtedly help mostly the rich
    If govt is for the people the last thing govt would want to perceive or plant in the minds of people that they are two Barbados
    One deserving and the other not deserving
    Again when a clear view of govt giveaways are brought into clear perspective
    There will remain a chilling reminder that the rich has gotten their needs met while the poor lives as squatters

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  • So what did Mr. Weir suggest to be humane solutions
    Unfortinately seems as if Mr. Weir has tied a noose around his neck
    Humane solutions are costly did he explain that to the listener
    In this modern world Mr. Weir cannot expect that these squatters would settle for pit toilets and having to pay sewage taxes
    After all the only thing these squatters have grown accustomed is a free life free of govt intrusion by way of taxes

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @Robert Goren August 18, 2019 7:35 AM “Mariposa is an idiot.”

    That is a fact universally acknowledged.

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  • Dear Squatters

    As I said, you just had to hold on and the Bajan government will come to the rescue. The scarce taxpayer funds will now be used to help you in whichever way you want. Dont worry about TCP, land tax or any of that foolishness. The laws are only for local working class Bajans. For anyone else it is optional. Please feel free to do as thou wilt.

    Dear Law abiding working class Bajans,

    The Dullard reminds you that you are the least important piece of this puzzle. Cannon fodder. Pawns. We need your vote but please do not expect anything from us. In fact, next year it will be more taxes in wunna RH.

    After we sell off the rest of your assets we will invite Ghanians, Kenyans, Chinese, Indians and others to take your jobs and compete for what little is left. You are not important. If only we could quickly expand the population to have a pool of secure votes…

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    It seems to me that 30-0 is pretty secure.

    Who needs foreign votes when the Bajans voted 70% for the BLP’ 30% for the DLP and others?

    Maybe it is the DLP which needs to secure the foreign vote?

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  • @ Mariposa August 19, 2019 5:47 PM

    How about letting them squat in the many unoccupied houses ‘planted’ under your administration and from which there were many kickbacks falling into some rather greasy palms of politicians and their friends?

    Under your administration even the entrails of the once fatted calf were dissected and shared out as decaying manna à la Destructive Lying Party.

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  • August 19, 2019 9:24 PM

    @ Mariposa August 19, 2019 5:47 PM

    How about letting them squat in the many unoccupied houses ‘planted’ under your administration and from which there were many kickbacks falling into some rather greasy palms of politicians and their friends?

    Sounds good to me as a matter of fact i soooooo like that plan
    Why not! Holy cow
    Why should White Oaks get the lion share
    Why not poor foreigners from the Carribbean get their share of the pie
    Look i tell u what Miller since govt needs a solution u ought to pass it on to Mia free of charge
    Drum roll please

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  • Question: if people area squatting how then do they get on the electoral register? What is their official address? Should their names be automatically removed from the electoral register?

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  • You are not following the discussion? Many of the people squatting as reported by the minister are locals one and legal two. They are squatting out of a need to live some place because of an unfortunate circumstance.

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  • You continue to demonstrate your ignorance. Being local has nothing to do with being on the electoral register. You must (should) have an official address to be on the electoral register. A squat IS NOT AN OFFICIAL address. It is the illegal occupation of someone else’s property…
    Because they are in need does not justify squatting. What about the owners of the property? Why don’t they squat on COW Williams’s land?

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  • You may have the last word.

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  • To be clear for others who are less bigoted, the basis for getting in the electoral register is immigration status I.e. the ability to produce a government/immigration document that confirms status. We should resist conflating issues.

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  • What does having the last word mean? That you realise you are talking nonsense?

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  • Hal Austin

    A big Amen u have spoken a mouthful

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  • I am prepared to accept this is the nonsensical procedure in Barbados. But tell me: if someone has immigration status only how do they decide which constituency they will register for? Do they toss a coin? You always try to explain away your ignorance by being abusive and aggressive. It says a lot about you.
    What is bigoted about saying the two principal qualifications for the electoral register are reaching the age of majority and a legal address. When you turn up to vote they check your name, address and your ID.
    Only foreigners need to prove immigration status. All 300 squatters at Rock Hall are not foreign.

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  • Did the minister take an official consensus or have verifiable documentation as proof most of these people are locals
    This govt has managed to pull wool over peoples eye because bajans along with media does not asked these political termites hard questions
    When minister made that statement media should have insisted he gives verifiable proof of his statements

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  • David BU

    To be FAIR, because people may be in need of housing, does not JUSTIFY them illegally occupying property, whether it is owned privately or by the state. Under the laws of Barbados, squatting still remains illegal. And, if squatting is an ILLEGAL ACTIVITY, then, squatters are not the official owners of the land, which means they do not have an official address.

    Since an individual needs an official address to determine his/her constituency and polling station, If the names of those Rock Hall squatters are actually registered on the electoral list, WHO authorized this registration, especially non-nationals?

    If they actually voted in previous elections, under these circumstances, shouldn’t their votes be deemed null and void?

    I also agree if their names are on the list, then, they should be automatically removed immediately.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Mariposa

    To be FAIR, I have to agree with you in this instance.

    The PM said at the press conference that, contrary to what people are saying, many of the squatters at Rock Hall are not non-nationals. She gave this opinion based on the 2007 social report, which I believe is trying “to pull wool over peoples’ eyes.”

    However, surely you must AGREE the former representative for St. Philip South and Attorney General, Adriel Brathwaite, as well as former PM Stuart, under whose portfolio the Town & Country Department fell….. and by extension the former ministers of housing (Michael Lashley and Denis Kellman), should take full responsibility for allowing this illegal activity to continue unabated and squatters to increase to 300 from 96 in 2007.

    I’m sure you recall when this issue of squatting was raised in 2017 and when asked if he new of what was occurring at Rock Hall, Adriel Brathwaite acknowledged he was AWARE of the illegal activity, and said he even have friends living there.

    Is it not disgraceful that a shameless, useless Attorney General being AWARE of an ILLEGAL ACTIVITY occurring in his constituency during his 10 year tenure, did absolutely nothing to at least control or curb the situation?

    You should PONDER on these things before attempting to absolve you DLP of any responsibility and “politically spin” this issue as the fault of the present BLP administration.

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  • The thing is disgraceful
    Now as far as blame game that too is disgraceful
    What people are now addressing and seeking are realistic solutions and not govt hot and sweaty solutions of trying to appease the illegal squatters by handing over the treasury to them

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  • Who needs foreign votes when the Bajans voted 70% for the BLP’ 30% for the DLP and others?
    +++++++++

    Simon you should learn to grasp context and nuance. But being a septuagenarian it may perhaps too late for you.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @Hal Austin August 20, 2019 5:52 AM “Question: if people area squatting how then do they get on the electoral register? What is their official address? Should their names be automatically removed from the electoral register?”

    I’ve worked in registering voters, and in administration of elections in Barbados and elsewhere. To the best of my knowledge there is no such thing as an official address, Your address is the place where you spend most of your time, and the place does not have to be a “legal” residence. The idea is that people should not be denied the right to vote because they are poor or without a proper, permanent home, so if a person spends most of his or her time at the Salvation Army hostel, in a shanty in the parents backyard, in mummy’s basement, sleeping on a friend’s couch, under the canopy of the Treasury building, or wherever the person as long as they are an adult citizen has the right to vote.

    So even though like most sensible people i find squatting to be a problem, the people at Rock Hall, or the people “living on the dump” should have been canvassed, and should have been encouraged to vote in the last elections. If they were ignored by either party or by both parties then both parties are wrong.

    Universal adult franchise has to include poor people, marginally housed people and “homeless” people.

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  • @Atax

    The comment was to address the fact it is immigration status that confirms being updated to the electoral list not to be confused with illegals.

    The others point is that squatting is illegal however it happens because there is a genuine need to provide housing for people on the lower rung.

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  • “The comment was to address the fact it is immigration status that confirms being updated to the electoral list not to be confused with illegals.”

    David BU

    I understand your point.

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  • Mariposa

    RE: “The thing is disgraceful.”

    Yes, it is indeed DISGRACEFUL. It is disgraceful that for 10 years, the shameless Adriel Brathwaite, as the Attorney General and parliamentary representative for Rock Hall, and Fruendel Stuart as former PM and minister responsible for Town & Country Planning, would stand idly by and ALLOW the ILLEGAL ACTIVITY of squatting to continue UNABATED, where the number of squatters increased from 96 in 2007 to over 300 presently…………. perhaps in the interest of securing the squatters’ votes.

    And it’s also disgraceful that Michael Lashley and “Moontown” Kellman, as two former ministers of housing under the previous DLP administration, were UNABLE to PROVIDE any proactive solutions to the problem as well either.

    “Blame game??????” My friend, this is not the “blame game,”……. it is a FACT!!!!

    RE: “What people are now addressing and seeking are realistic solutions and not govt hot and sweaty solutions of trying to appease the illegal squatters by handing over the treasury to them.”

    I’ll address your comment by mentioning three (3) facts.

    (1). During your 10-year tenure, no member of the former DLP administration made any attempt to address the issue of squatting nor did they proposed any realistic solutions to deal with and solve the problem.

    (2). Many of you always come to this forum to shout about human rights or having some new found deep concern for poor people, when it’s either convenient or politically expedient to do so.

    Supposed government decides to instruct personnel from MTW to demolish those houses at Rock Hall effective tomorrow. I’m sure the political yard-fowl you are, you would be the first one in this forum to say the government is being inhumane and unfair to poor people. You’ll ask if it’s fair that houses should be demolished without a thought for the welfare of children and the elderly, “while government continues to pay White Oaks.”

    If you acknowledge there are poor people in Barbados that cannot afford to buy “house and land,” then you should acknowledge that squatting is a result of that unfortunate reality, in addition to successive BLP and DLP administrations refusing to adequately address this issue, by implementing housing policies to give impecunious families and individuals an opportunity to own property.

    (3). Although I’m not necessarily in agreement with the $25,000 grant to those squatters, I understand the rationale behind the gesture. To be eligible for the grant squatters must be below the poverty line, I.e. earning $15,000 per annum or less. However, I believe we should wait on the result of the social survey to determine how many of these squatters would be eligible for the grants.

    Additionally, we must also bear in mind that loans will also be offered to those squatters that are above the poverty line.

    What I would like is for you, Maureen, Trini, Verla and your other DLP colleagues to do is, after ACCEPTING responsibility for ALLOWING this illegal activity to continue under your watch………..

    …………SUGGEST a few “realistic solutions” and DISCLOSE what are the DLP’s proposals to address the issue of squatting in Barbados.

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  • Artax speak only for yourself but dont put words in my mouth as for the bulldozing of homes as i previuosly mentioned a few years ago a local paper would highlight local authorities buldozing homes where court ordered for eviction was ordered and i made a stink not by loud talk but by action
    Now back to the squatters and govt alternative cant see how govt would be able to relocate these people especially those having two storey buildings in any event that is not a problem for me to figure
    That is govt problem cause when the problem first started it should have been stopped immediately

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  • “That is govt problem cause when the problem first started it should have been stopped immediately.”

    I agree.

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  • I find it appalling that Mia would even make mention the numbers of squatters which occupied Rock Hall when she was a minister
    I find it appalling thst she would dare interject politics as a self defense to point blame
    What should be asked of Mia when the squatters first step foot on Rock Hall would it not have been easier to remove the smaller size .
    So why is the PM and the blp yardfowls trying to distant the blp govt of the day from the root cause of the problem which started in its initial stages when blp was in govt
    Honesty should persuade the PM to be truthful at where blame should begin instead of using a political yardstick of convience
    But then again this govt is yet to be transparent and truthful about anything they have dons so far
    Hell Therfore would freeze over before govt point any of their past mistakes in their direction

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  • What numbers did Mia refer to when she was minister?

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  • Prime Minister Mottley says back in 2007, there were 96 unauthorized structures on the land, but that number had significantly increased over the past decade

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  • “What should be asked of Mia when the squatters first step foot on Rock Hall would it not have been easier to remove the smaller size.”

    Yes, although your above comments are true and I agree with you 100%, they also highlight your inability to think rationally, reasonably and outside the DLP’s “political box.”

    Let me “tell you why I say so.”

    Mottley said the social survey conducted in 2007, revealed there were 96 squatters at Rock Hall. Recall the DLP won the Tuesday, January 15, 2008 general elections. This obviously meant the DLP, more or less, inherited just over 100 squatters…….. as well as recommendations the BLP left to deal with the situation.

    Rather than exploring the BLP’s recommendations or implementing policies to deal with squatting in the short-term and on a long term basis, the DEMS allowed this ILLEGAL activity to CONTINUE, UNABATED, which saw the number of squatters increase to over 300, especially under the WATCH of former ATTORNEY GENERAL and parliamentary representative for the area, Adriel Brathwaite.

    In other words, Adriel Brathwaite, as attorney general, UPHELD and CONDONED people breaking the law.

    Now, we may ask which is worst……. the BLP not “nipping the situation in the bud” at 96 squatters………. or the DLP ALLOWING an ADDITIONAL 204 people to take up ILLEGAL residence at Rock Hall?

    The answer????

    “Successive Governments Turn Blind Eye to Squatters at Grantley Adams International Airport.”

    RE: “So why is the PM and the blp yardfowls trying to distant the blp govt of the day from the root cause of the problem which started in its initial stages when blp was in govt.”

    Yuh know, by your above comments, you are engaging in the “blame game.”

    Don’t you know that, by NOT acknowledging or admitting to the FACT the DLP’s non-action EXACERBATED the problem over the past 10 years……. whereby the squatters increased to over 300………….

    ………. the DLP yard-fowls are LIKEWISE “trying to DISTANT the then DLP government from” any “non-involvement” that contributed to the problem?

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  • Boy fuh some person who claim not to be a political blp yardfowl u sure know how to drop yuh feathers all over de place

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  • Mottley says she will give tge squattets twentyfive thousand dollars th help them relocate but govt cant find the money for the invalidity pay out
    Yuh see why it is so hard to believe anything coming out of Mottley mouth
    Will bet that when all the smoke is cleared the squatters would remain on that land and the only way they would be removed is when disaster occcurs because of govt not heeding warnings of aviation officials

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  • If there are 300 squatters, are these individuals or families? Will the Bds$25000 be give to each person or each family? Was this decision made in parliament? What about compensation for the property owners?
    By the way, what message does this send to Barbadians overseas: lawyers stealing money from clients; squatters illegally occupying property; no redress in the courts.

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  • And, likewise, “girl fuh some person who claim not to be a political DLP yardfowl u sure know how to drop yuh feathers all over de place.”

    My friend, your problem is “political yard-fowlism,” resulted in you being devoid of any ability to THINK things through thoroughly, rationally and reasonably ……… and “outside the DLP political box.”

    While everyone has acknowledge the fact that “successive governments turned a blind eye to squatters at Grantley Adams International Airport,” you, on the other hand, have chosen to lay the blame for this illegal activity solely at the feet of ONE political party.

    Essentially, you’re implying the DLP is JUSTIFIED in ALLOWING the squatters to INCREASE to 300, because the BLP did not do anything about the 96 they recorded in 2007.

    Thine ignorance is boundless.

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  • Waiting to see the process which govt would implement in handling this squatting problem
    One question with purpose what procedure or standard set for squatters to receive
    Setting a precedent based solely on a humanatarian cause can lead to legal interpretation in the future
    Also what about the homeless people sleeping outside business can they be considered as squatters and entilted to a relocation process under the guidlines of squatting

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  • “The Gaia principle is affected. I say live and let live; the squatters have a right to live also. I realize that this post is going to cause havoc among persons who think otherwise.”

    I agree with you that land should not belong to anyone person since no man can make earth and in addition the ownership of land is a hoax since you should not be obligated to pay taxes on what you own.
    yes we all have a right to live but not to squat in areas which can pose a danger to the safety of aviation and by extension the well being of the country.

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  • “Waiting to see the process which govt would implement in handling this squatting problem”

    It is the de facto Leader of the Opposition who should be offering solutions and not disingenuous criticisms since the illegal activity was exacerbated during their term of office; but based on the knowledgeable comments of the former Senior Director of Civil Aviation whom i know to be apolitical and a man of integrity in the performance of his duties, the focus should be on immediate relocation even if the Govt has to bite the bullet and shoulder all the expenses in the interim since it was the Govt who was responsible for the outrage in the first place. The Government must not be cawed into inaction by emotion or political grandstanding but must move swiftly but rationally to have the illegal squatters removed or relocated before an aviation incident occurs to the detriment of the country.

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  • “It is the de facto Leader of the Opposition who should be offering solutions and not disingenuous criticisms since the illegal activity was exacerbated during their term of office;”

    Mr. Skeete

    This is exactly what I was trying to say……… and was called a BLP yard-fowl for doing so.

    A similar characterization awaits you from those who do not have the ability to think rationally.

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  • Vincent Codrington

    @ Chales Skeete at 8 :56 AM

    The law recognizes that there is no absolute ownership of land. It is described as freehold , i.e at the GoB say so. The taxes we pay is for the goods and services we receive from the state. Land taxes , VAT, etc are just the vehicles for distribution of burden and collection of taxes.

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  • According to the Sunday Sun August 18,”Attorney Douglas Trotman had secured 70.000 square feet of land in 2007 at Phinnys, Well House, St Philip for the squatters but he was forced to abandon that plan after only a few were able to make the downpayment and assistance from Government was not forthcoming”

    What a bloody cheek as the English would say.If Mr Trotman who ran as an independent candidate in the St Philip South constituency is so interested in helping the squatters he should purchase the land and offer it to the squatters either free of cost, for sale or for rent since he does not believe the $25.000 loan offer by the Govt out of taxpayers monies would be taken up. In other words, he should put his money where his mouth is.

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  • If the houses pose a danger to radar equipment at GAIA there are two solutions.

    Remove the houses or remove the galvanize metal roofing and replace with plywood and Asphalt shingles.

    Maybe there is no truth to the “radar / aviation ” problem “. Could be the work of political spin doctors “

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  • @Hants

    It does not solve the problem of the health danger of living on a dump.

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  • Don’t remember the past opposition offering solutions in the Barrack saga or the Alexander deboggle
    After all both started under their administration and run for more than twenty years
    Until the new administration had to find solutions to both problems
    Now all one can hear coming our of the PM is the problem of exacerbated size but not a word of how where and when the root of squatting started
    Amazing how blp yardfowls can squawk about the size over the years but seemingly forgets that when the problem first reared its ugly head that ( the blp who was governing at the time should have made a bold political statement of nipping the problem in the bud
    Only koolaid drinkers would have short sighted memories
    Guh long do.

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  • Now as i indicated another band squatters are looking for their piece of the pie
    Pm opening of a pandora box it is like a gift box could create a legal challenged going forward when other squatters make similar claims under the rules standards and definition of “squatting”

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  • Let’s say for argument’s sake, the PM told Barbadians “the root of squatting at Rock Hall started” under a former BLP administration.

    We AGREE, WHOLEHEARTEDLY, that “the blp who was governing at the time should have made a bold political statement of nipping the problem in the bud.”

    However, are you suggesting the DEMS are JUSTIFIED for ALLOWING the illegal activity to continue, unabated, resulting in over 300 squatters at Rock Hall…………… because the BEES did not “nip the problem in the bud?”

    Or, are you implying squatting at Rock Hall is a BLP problem, so the DLP refused to tackle the situation and let it remain until such time the BLP regain the reins of government?

    Judging from their comments, I believe Astor is serving too much of a very strong rum punch at George Street. The supporters are consuming too much alcohol……. and are continually intoxicated.

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  • “Land taxes , VAT, etc are just the vehicles for distribution of burden and collection of taxes”.

    i usually bow to your submissions but i cannot equate the payment of VAT on a purchase made with the payment of an annual tax on land i have acquired and conveyed at much expense to me and on which i have already paid VAT at the time of acquisition.

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  • Had not the PM interjected politics by way of pointing finger
    The issue would have been contained to both parties but as she would(be) wanting to show want kind of metal she has to offer
    in one of her transparent moments she made an error in judgement in presenting a half truth to the people using a clever political guise. to place blame on past govt
    Now what i think is highly irrelevant to forwarding solution but rather what solid plans does govt have

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  • What about the rights of the people who own the property? Do squatters pay land tax?

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  • It was a dump for crissakes. Why do you think it is a health hazard to those squatting in the part of rock hall that was a dump?

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    Children in Britain are living in shipping containers and office blocks, report finds

    Children in England are growing up in shipping containers, office blocks, and bed and breakfasts, a report into youth homelessness has found, as authorities around the country struggle to combat the country’s crippling housing crisis. A total of 210,000 children are homeless — meaning they live in temporary accommodation or are “sofa-surfing” around various homes — the report by the Children’s Commissioner found, a figure significantly higher than previously estimated.
    More here: https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/21/uk/childrens-commissioner-homelessness-report-scli-gbr-intl/index.html

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    A staggering 2.5 million children are now homeless each year in America. This historic high represents one in every 30 children in the United States.
    More here: https://www.air.org/center/national-center-family-homelessness

    Key facts about homelessness among children and youth In the 2016-17 school year, 1.4 million [American] students (ages 6 to 18) experienced homelessness. Most students experiencing homelessness were doubling up with other families during the 2016-17 school year (75 percent), while others were in shelters (15 percent), hotels/motels (7 percent), or were unsheltered (4 percent). In 2017, most children and youth experiencing homelessness who were unaccompanied were 13 to 17 years old (87 percent), while a disproportionately high number of all children in federally-funded shelters were infants (under age 1) and young children (ages 6 and younger)–10 and 45 percent, respectively.
    More here: https://www.childtrends.org/indicators/homeless-children-and-youth

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    After every cent has been squeezed out of families, then every drop of blood, then the capitalists and their political friends will use the bones of children to make themselves bread.

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    Over the course of the year, the number of young people who spend some time homeless in Canada is as many as 40,000, and on any given night, there may be up to 6,000 homeless youth. Young people who are homeless (ages 13-24) make up approximately 20 percent of the homeless population in Canada.
    More here: https://www.covenanthousetoronto.ca/homeless-youth/facts-and-stats

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @Hal Austin August 21, 2019 4:44 PM “Do squatters pay land tax?”

    Do squatters in England pay council tax?

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  • Bobby Clarke speaks out in Barbados today on the squatters plight

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  • “……..in one of her transparent moments she made an error in judgement in presenting a half truth to the people using a clever political guise. to place blame on past govt……..”

    We all know government is said to be a continuum. You accepted the fact that you inherited the Barrack saga and Alexandra Secondary School controversy. However, like the politicians you are, you never missed an opportunity to blame the previous BLP administration for those situations……….

    ……….while seeking “bragging rights” for solving both issues.

    You also only inherited a situation where 96 people were squatting at Rock Hall. But, according to the PM, in 2007, a comprehensive program to deal with the Rock Hall squatters was submitted to the then Cabinet, and through a social survey, they were able to compile a list of those squatters, as it relates to their name, age, country of birth, gender, occupation, size of household, income, number of children, if the home was either owned by them or rented, etc.

    This meant you also INHERITED SOLUTIONS to the squatting problem (i.e the results of a social survey and a comprehensive social policy, which you could have reviewed, modified or implemented). Instead, during your 10 year tenure, you turned a blind eye to the situation and allowed the number of squatters to increase from 96 to over 300.

    As exhibited by you in this forum on a daily basis, both the BLP & DLP are famous for blaming each other. In this regard, I can’t get vex wid Mottley fuh blaming wunnah.

    If I could borrow Mr. Skinner’s “slogan,”…..the duopoly rules.

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  • “Bobby Clarke speaks out in Barbados today on the squatters plight”
    And a very fair and unemotional comment for once i must confess

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  • Very interesting comments from Bobby Clarke
    The one statement which caught my attention was Bobby stating his support for the squatters which made to question what area of the squatters plight does he support

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  • Artax did i not tell u to guh long
    Dont know why yuh hurting yuh head about what i think
    Cause most of the time your analogy is wrong
    Like calling me a politician
    Stuspse..
    Guh long do

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  • “And a very fair and unemotional comment for once i must confess…….”

    Mr. Skeete

    I agree with you.

    Bobby Clarke “said he was on the side of the squatters” and understood their plight, from the point of view that successive BLP & DLP administrations did not give any reasonable response to solving housing problems, which unfortunately forced people into squatting as a means of improving their living standards.

    But he was quick to admit the squatters do not have any “legal footing” because they are breaking the law.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    “Cause most of the time your analogy is wrong……. Like calling me a politician.”

    Hahahahahahaha……

    Mariposa, my friend, I’m not “hurting my head about what you think,” far from it…….. because, it’s clear that, “most of the time” you DON’T THINK, you write a lot of political nonsense.

    And I never “CALLED” you a politician….. but, I’ll immediately admit to “calling” you a DLP yard-fowl.”

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  • These are the words stated by Bobby Clarke where he mentioned his support
    Nothing that You Artax stated to the concern of Bobby support is made mention or stated by bobby Clatke as to why Bobby support the squatters

    . I am on their side and I understand that they need assistance, but they are in the wrong area and that in itself is crucial,” the attorney concluded.

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  • As for the twenty five thousand dollars that is a pittance can’t see how far the squatters can go on that

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  • Also how come govt finding money to pay over three hunded squatters but can find money to fix the water problems that are affecting people across the island
    One person complains that where she lives the area had no water for ten days
    One can bet that drought or famine the PM residence is fully stock and water is in no shortage

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  • The garbage pile up worsens
    Govt what wunna gonna do about it
    Wunna say wunna had the answers

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  • Mascoll like he gone into hiding
    Joann Haig was reaching out to him for answers in reference to benefit checks for the disable but he never responded
    Here is a man who said he knew how to correct all the wrongs of past govt but when local citizens call on him for answers he is MIA

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  • Waiting to hear from govt the standard procedure for the eligiblty for squatters to get tge twenty five thousands dollars
    Word on the ground says that there many houses that have the same owner

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  • Word on which ground? You and your damn lies.

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  • ” Several areas in St Michael, St Philip, Christ Church and St George are currently without power, and crews are working on rectifying the problem.

    BL&P is hoping that the issues will be resolved over the next few days,”

    https://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/241387/power-outages-affecting-parishes

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  • Yu have not proof just like govt has no proof of who are the actual owners of the house
    The squatters were a govt unto themselves

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  • An on going poll in a local paper shows 14% of barbadians says Yes to govt plan of giving the squatters 25.thousand dollars
    86% says No
    This outcome speaks volumes to the thinking of a people who are guided by a directive that govt plan does not make sense

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  • The squatters have been a govt unto themselves
    For years they have been able to build houses with out outside govt interfernce
    Have water light and waste disposal .
    Read where a father said he raised his two boys on Squatters Row and he provided well for them
    Maybe govt can learn a lesson or too from these squatters on how to run a country on nothing and be good providers for its people

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  • What about the legal owners of the properties? Have they been interviewed?

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  • What legal owners
    As i stated the squatters had a system in place that out maneuvered the govt
    They built houses with out approval from country technocrats
    As a matter of fact they didnt even bother asking govt for approval
    Squatters made their own laws live by them and now we see the end result of govt offering them large sums of money to move.
    I really must give the squatters a thumbs up for being trivial and at the same time beating the system for so many years.
    ( now) even presently as
    govt goes on bending knees offering reparations
    Wow

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  • The squatters are there because of politicians. The number grew from under 100 in 2007 to 300 because of politicians. This is the root of the problem, politicians and naked opportunism to support their popularity, Your infantile attempts to make it what it is not will not help the discussion.

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  • David we all know what politics lead up to the problem
    Nothing new here
    However the hot and sweaty policy now presented by govt does not make sense
    Hence we have a poll ran by local paper stating such
    How in the name of common sense does offering tge squatters 25thousand dollars answers all the other problems associated with location and other social and economic problems (combined) attached to ongoing problems affecting the barbados landscape like proper housing garbage pick up and sewage not to mention critical health issues
    How will govt budgetary planning meet these needs

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  • @ Mariposa

    Don’t be intimidated by the aggression of the chairman, which his many fans conveniently ignore. Stick to your point. Squatters are illegal. They should have been removed through court orders ages ago. What about the right of possession for the legal owners?

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  • Hal never been intimidated by king kong David
    However when one look at the squatters dilemma one cant help but wonder how three hundred people can hold govts hostage for so long
    Maintained a self imposed form of self goverance
    Live on pittance
    All without govt intereference
    Now at the last hour present govt plays into the squatters hand all absence of legal pathway ready to offer these illegal squatters taxpayers money
    How can govt state openly what their monetary plans for squatters without first placing the plan in parliament for open debate
    This govt lead by Mottley once again proves that on may 24th a mandate towards transparency meant a govt to lead by dictatorship

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  • “Nothing that You Artax stated to the concern of Bobby support is made mention or stated by bobby Clatke as to why Bobby support the squatters.”

    My friend, did you leave your comprehension skills in George Street? Oh, sorry, a look at your above comment clearly indicates Astor served a very strong rum punch Thursday evening.

    This was Barbados Today’s report on the issue:

    [Clarke, who has worked tirelessly representing citizens in the dispute surrounding the compulsory acquisition of land at Emmerton in the city, said he was on the side of the squatters.

    “Both DLP and BLP Governments for years were not giving any kind of decent response [to housing problems], so they [squatters] pulled out money to improve their living standards, which is understandable and I expect Government to understand their problem and find a solution. But in law, they have no case,” said the activist.]

    This is what I wrote:

    “Bobby Clarke “said he was on the side of the squatters” and understood their plight, from the point of view that successive BLP & DLP administrations did not give any reasonable response to solving housing problems, which unfortunately forced people into squatting as a means of improving their living standards.”

    Rather than quoting the paper verbatim, I précis the excerpt.

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  • What about the legal rights of the owners of the property?

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  • Bobby”Clarke gave double speaks
    Not enough to say he support the squatters but agree with govt decision to move them based on a plan which govt has not entirely detailed having built causes and effect to the entire socio- economic enviroment
    Hence one would clearly like to hear from govt relocation where how and when from govt
    Housing details and also jobs for squatters
    It is all well and good for Bobby Clarke to say that he ” support” the squatters
    However it would have been of interest to tell in what ways does he support them
    Afterall squatting is illegal and he must know that

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  • @ Tron,

    Bridgetown was a massive slum for over 100 years, after the abolition of slavery. When Grantley Adams came to power, he built a number of large and modern estates to re-house these people: the Pine, Deacons, Grazettes, etc.
    Ironically, the Garrison was an open ground for prostitution and we got the development of Nelson Street, Bay Street and other centres of night life. Little has changed.
    It was the same Grantley Adams who extended secondary education, built the Deep Water Harbour and a new hospital. I constantly remind people of the gap in our social history, utilising the minutes of political parties and governments since 1951, and the records of our independence talks in the build up to 1966.
    We can either try to fill these gaps, manufacture a bogus history (Barrow as the father of independence), or reduce all discussions to bi-party loyalties. We owe it to future generations to map our history as accurately as we possibly could. Only a hand full of people on BU try to do this. We want more.
    One of the greatest burdens we have inflicted on the nation is the Barbadianisation of our top administrative positions, regardless of competence. We must reverse that historic wrong.

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  • When Grantley Adams was in power barbados was under British Rule
    Hence the governance of Barbados was guided with meticulous and controlled power by the British and a rule to transparency knowning how moneies given to barbardos by Britain was spent
    The difference presently is that barbados has a number of loose lips political gurus whose interest lies unto themselves
    Transparency has become a bad taste in the mouths the people have chosen to goverence
    Hence we have present govt implementing unilateral decisions without thought or reason of first placing all decision before parliament debate as a way of giving the people a legitimate right to know

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  • Ohhhh, and by the way, Mariposa, my friend, I’m forced to remind you of an excerpt taken from the Sunday, March 19, 2017 edition of the Sunday Sun:

    “The last remaining acres of the former dump site, which is not far from Grantley Adams International Airport, was CLEARED about two years ago but MORE squatters have since MOVED IN and built ILLEGAL structures on every remaining square foot.”

    “The majority of residents in the NEWEST SUBSECTION are said to be non-nationals, some of who have brought in their friends and families from Jamaica, St Vincent and Guyana.”

    I AGREE the squatters should have been REMOVED YEARS AGO by a former BLP administration.

    But, your previous DLP administration CLEARED the last remaining acres of the former dump site, and then ALLOWED squatters to BUILD ILLEGAL STRUCTURES, thereby EXPANDING the ILLEGAL village, under the watch of former Attorney General and parliamentary representative, Adriel Brathwaite and former PM Fruendel Stuart, under whose portfolio the T&CPD fell.

    The “political blame game” fits into your agenda, but I contend that either the BLP or DLP cannot be absolved of any responsibility for the squatting debacle at Rock Hall.

    Then, surely you must agree “successive governments turn blind eye to squatters at Grantley Adams International Airport.”

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  • I have already spoken several times to blame
    Had it not for Mottley utterances having a methodical approach of placing blame the finger pointing would never been started and given so much input in the public domain
    As a leader she should have known better and simply talked of solutions
    Artax your proverbial insistence of dragging me into a debate of blame is silly
    Instead you should confront Mia as to why she interjected her utterances of placing blame into an already volatile problem
    It would be interesting to hear Mottley answers
    You need to stop getting yourself into this bogus talk of blame
    I belive you are more intelligent to know better when political droppings dont add up to a hill of beans

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  • Tch, tch, tch…….

    Come off it, my friend.

    I do not engage in a “proverbial insistence of dragging (you) into a debate of blame.” Anyone reading your contributions to this forum over the years, would attest to the fact that your “utterances have a methodical approach of placing blame the finger pointing” at the BLP for ALL the “social ills” of this island….. when BOTH political parties are responsible.

    When you come to BU with your and bouts of retrograde amnesia and “one sided criticisms, I “jog your memory” and provide you with evidence to prove there aren’t any fundamental political, ideological or philosophical differences between the BLP and DLP.

    If I BLAME……

    ………. (1) the BLP for not addressing the squatting issue in its initial stages and allowing the structures at that location to increase to 96 in 2007;

    ………(2) the DLP for allowing the squatters to illegally construct over 204 houses during their 10 year tenure, which saw the structures increased to just over 300, especially when {a} you had the results of a social survey of the area and proposals for addressing the problem, {b} after clearing the site in 2015 and {c} under the watch of the then Attorney General and parliamentary representative for the area, who stood idly by while the ILLEGAL activity continue unabated….

    …….. which essentially “comes right back down” to saying “SUCCESSIVE governments TURN BLIND EYE to squatters at Grantley Adams International Airport,” . is your interpretation of me “getting (myself) into this bogus talk of blame,”….. then, I plead GUILTY as charged.

    BTW, RE: “As a leader she should have known better and simply talked of solutions.”

    To be FAIR to Mottley, she did “talked of solutions” and referred to proposals they formulated in 2007 to address the issue. What you should “say” is that you’re NOT in favour of those proposals, as is evidenced by your contributions to this issue.

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