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I see that Keltruth and its subsidiary, Barbados Free Press, have again “spouted”. This time, they have asked why PriceWaterhouseCoopers paid such a large amount for an FBI expert to give an opinion on the “threats” that they perceive Peter Simmons made in respect of Bill McKenzie.

I have three questions only:

First question. BOTH sides hired experts. Keltruth has provided us with a scan of the invoice from the expert for the defendants. Why has a copy of the invoice of the expert for the OTHER side not been provided for us as well? The “threat” complained of is contained in Mr. Simmons’ surreptitiously recorded conversation with (and by) “Fishy” Heaslet that Mr. Bill McKenzie aka Little Billy Goat should “walk good” and “watch his back” when he comes to Barbados. So, to the question:

Second question. If any of you were sued because 14 years ago you made in good faith a legal, but unsuccessful, effort to buy a business and you lost $400,000 when you failed; and then, 14 years later, somebody sued you and cost you tens of thousands of dollars for lawyers’ fees in Canada in a case that has no right being brought in the first place, let alone in Canada, would you maybe use strong language? We now know that PriceWaterhouseCoopers has paid for the opinion relating to its co-defendant, Peter Simmons. We assume that this is because PriceWaterhouseCoopers wants to move the matter along, which is perfectly natural.

Third question. Why is counsel for the plaintiff also representing Madge Knox? Who is paying for this representation? Is there a difference in principle between that and PWC paying for an expert opinion? Not for nothing is the Knox mouthpiece called “Quel Truth?”

I would also like to know how Quel Truth got a copy of the invoice it posted.

I will speculate that, having lost the motion that resulted in the Reasons published by BU, costs for the motion were awarded against Nelson Barbados by the Canadian court and a copy of that invoice was given to Little Billy Goat. Now, why do you think Little Billy Goat (and it could have been none other) would provide a copy to Quel Truth? Because Little Billy Goat is also representing the defendant, Madge Knox? But no, LBG would NEVER do anything unethical like that!!! Represent the plaintiff AND a defendant in the same lawsuit? Absolutely no way!!! Wash my mouth out with soap.

However, let us leave this trivial and transparent latest “news” from Quel Truth and BFP. As promised, here is the affidavit of Clyde Turney Q.C. sworn 21st May 2007 in the Canadian action involving Kingsland Estates Limited. We see from this that the central players are all Bajan, the property in dispute is Bajan, the laws to be interpreted are Bajan and therefore the only court that has the competence and jurisdiction to try the matter is the Supreme Court of Barbados.

Why then has this matter been taken to the Canadian courts?

Simple. Every matter complained of by Nelson Barbados Group Ltd.,/Nelson Barbados Investments Inc., aka Madge Knox and Peter Allard has already been tried by the Barbados Courts and is now res judicata (Latin for “a matter already judged”. It is, in both civil law and common law legal systems, a case in which there has been a final judgment and is no longer subject to appeal). So, since there is no longer any chance of the two Nelsons and Allard and Madge Knox appealing the case to any court that has the right to try the case, Knox and Allard’s only means of having the whole thing re-tried is to go and try to get the Canadian courts to take it on.

And please do not be tricked into thinking that because Madge Knox is named as a defendant that she is not the real plaintiff. Just refer to the Reasons of Justice Bryan Shaughnessy in the Ontario courts (published by BU) when he says:

“It does not escape the notice of this Court that Marjorie Knox is represented in these proceedings by Mr. Sheppard [Mr. Alair Shepherd Q.C.], a lawyer practicing in Barbados. It is confusing as to why Mr. Sheppard has taken no position on this motion and why Mr. McKenzie sends correspondence relating to the Keltruth blog to the Commissioner of Police in Barbados on behalf of Marjorie Knox.”

And not just to the Barbados Police and I will send copies of other correspondence sent by Little Billy Goat on behalf of Madge Knox to David and BU. By the way, a little bird has just told me that Madge et al asked for leave to appeal the decision of Justice Shaughnessy, but Justice Shaughnessy refused and so they appealed to the Regional Court in Ontario and got refused there as well. Two more lost court actions to add to the enormous collection they already have. Maybe they will make it into the Guinness World Book of Records for Most Lost Cases.

It is also interesting to see that the judge declines to accept the suggestion of the same Little Billy Goat to ““finesse” around the issue of “threats“” and to make an order to compel Cable & Wireless (Barbados) Ltd. to collect and produce information found on the internet in defiance of and ignoring the sovereign status of Barbados and the Barbados Telecommunications Act on the basis of “to see what happens” [Little Billy Goat’s words]. See Reasons published by BU.

Now, if this is not an attempt to encroach on the sovereignty of Barbados by Mrs. Knox and Mr. Allard and their Nelson front, I do not know what is.

By Professor John Knox’s affidavit, also published by BU, we are given a hint as to why Cave Hill did not renew the contract of Prof. Knox to teach there, a complaint frequently voiced by Quel Truth and Barbados Free Press. Look at paragraphs dealing with the new prison facility at Dodds in the Prof’s affidavit published by BU.

He makes several points:

In 2001, a group of government officials, including the then attorney-general (Mr. David Simmons) was seen on lands in the Hanson/Staplegrove area by Charles A. Deane and by the Prof’s sister, Jane Goddard. Although neither of them were parties or privy to the subject of the meeting, they determined, by means unidentified, that it was about the new prison facility. The Prof fails to point out that in 2001, when this meeting occurred, Kingsland’s lands and shares were frozen by the operation of two, not one, two injunctions and could not even have been even compulsorily acquired.

Jane Goddard wrote to her mother’s solicitor about the issue, but the Prof does not record if she received an answer. A few days later, Jane Goddard wrote to the attorney-general, Mr. Simmons, but the Prof complains that his sister never received an answer from the A-G.

May I suggest, Mr. Simmons would have read the letter and asked himself if Mrs. Goddard was a shareholder or director of Kingsland. If she was a shareholder or director, which she is not, Mr. Simmons would have sent a copy of the letter with a compliments slip to the secretary of Kingsland for the Kingsland board to deal with. Otherwise, the A-G would, rightly, have considered it none of her business.

The Prof continues that Kingsland thus lost the opportunity for a major land sale for the prison to Dodds. Since Mrs. Knox was one of the holders of the injunction preventing the sale of any land of Kingsland, why is the Prof not leveling his accusations at his mother?

There has been a lot of talk about “big ups”. Well, the land the Prof thinks was being examined for the prison facility is slap bang in the backyards of the residents of Stepney, Boarded Hall, Dash Valley, South Ridge, Kent and Ridge. In other words, “Big Up Central”. Does any reader HONESTLY think that those Big Ups would have allowed ANY government of Barbados to put a prison in their backyards? Greaves, Haloute, Mrs Ram, Richard Edwards, Haddad, Paul Noel, Leacock et al.?

What do YOU think? Would YOU like a prison facility in YOUR backyard? And please, in answering, do not be influenced by the fact that Jane Goddard and Charles A. Deane would obviously have welcomed a prison in their backyards.

Can anyone seriously think that any government so dependent on the “Big Ups” would have contemplated building a prison right next door to their houses – far less held a meeting to discuss it? And, if they did, they obviously decided to save the taxpayers’ money and use a piece of land the government already owned. Dodds.

The Prof has done his homework on to the subject of Dodds. But has he!!! He has “commissioned” a search to be carried out at the Titles Registry going back 50 years and he can find no evidence that Government has purchased Dodds. Only in Canada could such a statement have weight. If he dared put that in an affidavit for the Barbados Courts, it would be laughed out.

We all know that Dodds was used for many years, certainly going back more than 50 years, as an underage male offenders’ facility. The Prof, who is over 50, knows this as well. It is likely that for almost 100 years it has been owned by the country of Barbados. The Prof has made sure that he has had a search done going back only 50 years, because he can then refer to the search, rather than admitting his own personal knowledge.

That is the height of dishonesty. That is the worst of bad faith. It might even be perjury. There are other areas of the Prof’s affidavit that are far less than frank. Now, would Cave Hill have discharged its duty to the youth of the Caribbean by renewing the contract of a man to whom the truth is such a stranger?

As for the Turney affidavit, it is very interesting in that we learn:

To date, Madge Knox has been involved in 7 actions (and this does not include appeals) before the Barbados Courts, two of which are pending and five of which she has lost. She has appealed decisions of the Court 5 times and lost two of those appeals. Of the others, one had been discharged due to lack of payment of an Order for security for costs payable into Court by Mrs. Knox. The other two are stayed pending payment into court of security for costs awarded against Mrs Knox.

To date, the defendants whom she has unsuccessfully sued in Barbados actions are out of pocket to the estimated tune of $10 million – and Mrs. Knox has not paid them one red cent of the costs ordered by the Courts.

Mr Turney gives evidence of an action filed in Ontario in 2007 by NELSON BARBADOS INVESTMENTS INC., but that the action was abandoned. However the paperwork did not go to waste. Using almost exactly the same pleadings, NELSON BARBADOS GROUP LTD. filed an action soon afterwards.

What odds am I offered that Nelson Barbados Investments Inc. and Nelson Barbados Group Ltd. both have the same address – and that address is the same as Little Billy Goat’s law firm?

But the corporate names mean nothing. The fact is that the true plaintiffs are Madge Knox and Peter Allard.

In paragraph 63 of the Statement of Claim in the Canadian courts, Madge Knox and Peter Allard complain that they cannot get a fair trial in Barbados because of the defendants, some of whom are politicians and members of the judiciary. They conveniently forget that they lost on these self-same matters before the Privy Council, over which the Barbados government and courts have no influence at all.

In fact, I believe that the only reason that the Barbados government and public officials are included in the lawsuit is to try to give some sort of perverted legitimacy to the retrying of the whole Kingsland issue. This is frankly the worst abuse of legal process I have ever seen. And it is to the great discredit of the Canadian courts that they have spent so much time entertaining it.

In my humble opinion, this case is a lot of hot air and it has taken up far too much time and space that could have been better used in addressing matters in government, the judiciary and in our society generally, that need to be addressed. Thus, matters of real importance to our country and to the man in the street that ought to be the main focus of the press, blogs like BU, our government, opposition and judiciary, are all being sidelined, hijacked, ignored and delayed by the illegitimate desires and frustrations of a Canadian billionaire and an old Bajan divorcee and her three children.

It is time that we, and they, moved on.

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47 responses to “PWC, Turney And Dodds ~ The Other Side Of The Kingsland Estate Court Matter Part III”


  1. […] unknown wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptSubmitted by: BWW I see that Keltruth and its subsidiary, Barbados Free Press, have again “spouted”. This time, they have asked why PriceWaterhouseCoopers paid such a large amount for an FBI expert to give an opinion on the “threats” that they perceive Peter Simmons made in respect of Bill McKenzie. I have three questions only: First question. BOTH sides hired experts. Keltruth has provided us with a scan of the invoice from the expert for the defendants. Why has a copy of the invoice of the expert for the OTHER side not been provided for us as well? The “threat” complained of is contained in Mr. Simmons’ surreptitiously recorded conversation with (and by) “Fishy” Heaslet that Mr. Bill McKenzie aka Little Billy Goat should “walk good” and “watch his back” when he comes to Barbados. So, to the question: Second question. If any of you were sued because 14 years ago you made in […] […]


  2. Been following this closely but still don’t get it. What happened to Mrs. Knox’s shares in Kingsland?


  3. If we understand the voluminous documentation correctly this matter is still under dispute after several failed attempts by Mrs. Knox to overturn the original deal which has leaped from the Barbados judiciary to Ontario, Canada.

  4. Straight talk Avatar

    BWWR’s dismissal of Price Waterhouse’s, a public company’s, readiness to fund the defense of a private, albeit vaguely connected individual, is suspicious to say the least.

    To move things along, she says.
    Who ever asked them to?
    Did Simmons object to their interference or was there collusion between the parties.

    Paying $56k so readily for expertly exonerating the perceived threats made by Simmons smacks of a cover-up.

    Move along, indeed.
    There is nothing for the likes of you to see here.
    Same old, same old.

  5. politically incorrect Avatar
    politically incorrect

    Please enlighten me……..I thought BU and BFP were “sister blogs”. If I am wrong, I stand corrected.

    If my statement is true: “How come sisters running the same story from either side of the fence?”

  6. Straight talk Avatar

    Erratum:

    Pricewaterhouse Cooper is an international private company, not as I said a Barbados public company.

    So they have no public shareholders to hold them to account for such generosity.


  7. BU stops no one from posting comments on this or any other matter. So far in this matter our few comments on the Kingsland matter has been to seek clarification for the BU family. There is nothing to stop Mrs. Knox et al to post rebuttals on BU. We hope we have adequately responded to the query of whether we are a sister blog of BFP.

    The other matter which ST raised about PWC. As far as we know there are a set of international accounting standards which guide how Accounting Houses should function. If they are found to be in violation there is a heavy price to pay.


  8. To answer your questions:

    Mrs. Knox’s shares in Kingsland are still hers, despite her attempts to transfer them in order to avoid having them siezed to pay costs.

    PWC is a party to the action in Canada and so too is Peter Simmons. For the rest, refer to David’s answer and follow the link he has provided. He is right on target. Read a little. In any event, trade regulations, whether accounting or any other field, are subservient to the law and the law says that PWC is within its rights. The law says that Nelson was within its rights to order the opinion and research that it did on behalf of Mrs. Knox and against Peter Simmons. No one has questioned the right of Nelson/Knox/Allard. Why then are the rights of PWC/Simmons being questioned – or is it merely the price of the study?

    Cover-up indeed is smelt. However, not a cover-up by PWC. We know how much they paid for their study. How much did Nelson Barbados pay for the study it had carried out that the judge and the appeal court in Canada found unsatsifactory and biased?

    Of course, the defendants would not have a copy of that invoice, because you see the costs would have been awarded against the plaintiff and therefore it is the defendants who would have to submit invoices to the plaintiff in order to get their costs paid.

    So, how does anyone know whether or not $56,000 was spent by the Knox backers on their study or not. Or maybe even more.

    Is it being suggested that PWC and Mr. Simmons forego, or be forbidden to have, the same advanages allowed Mrs. Knox? Is that just and equitable?


  9. Thank you BWWR for the clarification on the shares thing.

    But isn’t PwC a defendant in this case? Are PwC and Price Waterhouse Coopers East Caribbean Firm the same company?

    Something seems odd. When I look at the East Caribbean Firm in Google in see R.S. Kirby.

    Anyway, I guess it will be explained as it seems confusing to me right now.


  10. It never cease to amaze that just like in the days of old when countries went to war to settle disputes over border and disagreements, what has changed in modern times?

    This Kingsland Affair smacks of the same modus operandi, a fight over land with some dressing

  11. Wishing in Vain Avatar
    Wishing in Vain

    Or what about the stinking one where a person employed by the Gov’t of Barbados to do a job on behalf of all the taxpayers has grown so comfortable giving out work and collecting his bribe money for giving this work out, but low and behold the 15 th of Jan happened the New Gov’t is elected by the taxpayers of Barbados and Mr Dirt decides to halt the giving out of work to his friends for a fee and then also neglects his long time friend and cohort, this is now enough to set the friend crazy and in his annoyance with Mr Dirt he skillfully sends all of the cheques that he paid to Mr Dirt over the years to none other than the Minister responsible for the mess.

    What a pile of garbbage we find ourselves thrown into ????

  12. Wishing in Vain Avatar
    Wishing in Vain

    If you have a look at today’s Nation Newspaper you will see the NUPW making a total idiot of themselves in their support of the thief STANTON ALLEYNE in my earlier post I decided not to mention his name or where he worked but now that it is public knowledege I will say that this is yet another one that should be sent to Dodds right away, he is the one that his friend exposed by sending all the bank cheques written as bribe money to STANTON ALLEYNE and it shows where they have been deposited to his account and these are the same cheques that the Minister now has in his pocession.
    Can you really understand the call to leave him alone and turn a blind eye, simply put he is yet another crook that was stealing from us just like HALLAM NICHOLLS, GLYNE BANNISTER and OWING all did, and from whom he took his direction.

    He needs to be sent thru the court system and found gulity and locked away next door to Owing, Bannister and Nicholls.


  13. You got it right, David, a fight over land with some dressing. A corporate takeover with some gravy. That is all it is and all it ever was – apart from the right of old people to sell their private property (shares) so they could be comfortable in their old age. As Pat says, from riches to rags. Sad, but it happens all the time.

  14. Wishing in Vain Avatar
    Wishing in Vain

    If you have a look at today’s Nation Newspaper (Iplease see story added below) you will see the NUPW making a total idiot of themselves in their support of the thief STANTON ALLEYNE in my earlier post I decided not to mention his name or where he worked but now that it is public knowledege I will say that this is yet another one that should be sent to Dodds right away, he is the one that his friend exposed by sending all the bank cheques written as bribe money to STANTON ALLEYNE and it shows where they have been deposited to his account and these are the same cheques that the Minister now has in his pocession.
    Can you really understand the call to leave him alone and turn a blind eye, simply put he is yet another crook that was stealing from us just like HALLAM NICHOLLS, GLYNE BANNISTER and OWING all did, and from whom he took his direction.

    He needs to be sent thru the court system and found gulity and locked away next door to Owing, Bannister and Nicholls.

    SSA RIFT by TREVOR YEARWOOD

    THE NEW BOARD at the Sanitation Service Authority (SSA) has asked acting general manager Stanton Alleyne to resign by tomorrow.

    But the National Union of Public Workers (NUPW) has given notice that the board will have a fight on its hand if Alleyne is forced to go.

    News of the crisis came when the NUPW met with close to 150 SSA workers at its Dalkeith Road, St Michael headquarters yesterday morning.

    NUPW general secretary Denis Clarke accused the board of “going on a witch-hunt” and warned that the union “will fight to our last drop of blood”.

    Clarke charged that the new SSA board had apparently “come into office with the intention of getting rid of Mr Alleyne” and had been delving into “every little project” with which he had been involved, seeking to find a trace of wrongdoing.

    He said Alleyne had “given his all” to the SSA over several years and should not be treated this way.

    Neither Clarke nor chairman of the board, Dr Don Marshall, would state the grounds on which Alleyne was being asked to resign.

    But on the telephone from Britain, Marshall told the SUNDAY SUN that the board had “a compelling case” against Alleyne.

    Board’s mission

    He dismissed the union’s “witch-hunting” charge, saying: “The board is . . . on a mission to raise the value, profile and status of the SSA.”

    Marshall said the board could have taken a different route, but had decided to “proceed with compassion” by having a meeting with Alleyne and asking him to decide on his future by Monday.

    Alleyne, in turn, said in an interview that the resignation call had come as a surprise because in his 12 years’ holding a managerial position he had resolved a number of the nagging problems besetting the institution.

    He listed among them, not enough functioning trucks, a shortage of spare parts and vehicle routing and garbage-collection difficulties.

    “They [the board] found a Sanitation Service Authority that has been running smoothly, but they have been checking and checking and checking since being sworn in on February 15,” he told the SUNDAY SUN.

    He did not give details of what the board was checking for.

    Marshall questioned Alleyne’s claim of things running smoothly at the SSA, saying: “We have had too many long years of neglect … in relation to the workers’ health, safety and amenities at their disposal – things like a decent lunch room and change room.”

    Meantime, Clarke is supporting a call by SSA workers for the board to resign. And, SSA workers who attended yesterday’s meeting are calling for industrial action if Alleyne is sacked tomorrow.

    .


  15. BWWR:

    thanks for part III. Now can you explain to a simpleton like me why the Island of Barbados is named as a defendant in the Canadian suit? I was waiting for you to address this. I cant wrap my head around the fact that they named the island and inter alia, its residents as defendants in their case. Strange.


  16. Something puzzles me here.

    Are we to believe that a character calling themself Black Woman Who Reads or BWWR speaks for all of the defendants in the Kingsland matter other than Mrs. Knox? Who on the list of defendants is BWWR speaking for or in support of?

    Perhaps David at BU should have called this “ANOTHER side of the Kingsland Estate Court Matter” not “the OTHER side” as there seem to be more sides.

    If I were on the list of defendants I think I would be quite uncomfortable having BWWR speak on my behalf.


  17. I still don’t understand why Price Waterhouse would pay tens of thousands of dollars to help Peter Simmons. Why would Price Waterhouse help the brother of the Chief Justice? Something smells to high heaven.


  18. No name:

    Maybe BWWR is the designated ‘communication officer’ (spokesperson) for the defendants excluding Mrs. Knox who, according to BWWR, is also the plaintiff using incorporated businesses as fronts.


  19. Pat,
    from the personal comments being made by BWWR I very much doubt any connection with many of the defendants.


  20. BWWR,

    You persist in using Iain Deane’s phrases, but you should be more careful in choosing your metaphors!

    You refer to Mr. McKenzie as the “Little Billy Goat”. I remind you, Iain, that in the story there were three Billy Goats and a bridge guarded by a Troll.

    If Bill McKenzie is the Little Billy Goat, who would be the Troll?

    I also note that the Troll made violent threats against the Little Billy Goat, but did not carry out these threats.

    Just remember that the Troll was outwitted by the Little Billy Goat. The Troll lost!

    Unfortunate choice of words, Iain!


  21. Hi Pat,

    I have no idea why Barbados and its people are named. I can only surmise. My guess is that Nelson/Knox/Allard and Little Billy Goat have to impugn the possibility of a fair trial in Barbados in order to call into question the fairness of the Privy Council’s decision so as to reopen the case.

    That would be my guess.

    Regardless of the views of “no name” and Quel Truth, which seem to be very similar (but I respect the anonymity of all contributors and will not stoop to a lot of worthless speculation on who each might be), I cannot see how there is any case to answer, particularly as the plaintiff’s standing does not exist to bring the case in the first place.

    I maintain my belief that it is also a question of revenge motivated by the fact that Barbados would not twist, bend or break its laws in order to accomodate Madge Knox and Peter Allard. As a result, Knox and Allard will do anything they can to harm Barbados and bring its systems and government and people into disrepute.

    Keltruth has not responded to a single question I have asked. Not one. Instead, it has tried to divert people’s attention from those questions by spending a lot of time speculating on my sex and my identity, none of which is relevant.

    In my view, it wouldn’t matter if I were ALL the people that they have cloaimed I am. All that matters is whether or not my questions are relevant. If they are, and you, Pat, and many others seem to think they are, please answer them, Quel Truth, instead of relating fairy tales about trolls and billy goats, which makes Quel Truth look like just as much a billy goat as Little Billy Goat McKenzie.

    I fully realize that Quel Truth, LBG, Allard and Madge are experts at fairy tales and they have this fixed idea that we are children to be fed this pap. But we are NOT children and if they are going to take up our time reading what they have to say, please make it pertinent, to the point and answer the questionsand you, Pat, and I and many others have asked them.

    It would also be helpful if they had the objectivity to post both sides of the issue – but you know, chile, you can lead the goats to the water, but you can’t make them drink.

    Peace.


  22. Keltruth,

    I and everyone I have spoken to are very fed up with the way you behave. It is just like Mr. Heaslet telephoning a colleague and fishing for material to be used as accusations of threats. You want anyone who opposes you to be our Chief Justice, his brother Peter or Iain Deane. And like Mr. Heaslet, you will repeat your theories time and again as if they were proven.

    Having read the Reasons of Justice Shaughnessy, it is very clear to me that you are doing all you can to try to identify anyone who opposes you in the hopes that it is a defendant and Mr. Knox can then exhibit blogs to his affidavits to the Canadian courts and waste more time.

    You do not answer any questions put to you. Instead, you do your best to divert attention away from the questions and on to areas of no relevance or merit.

    If BWWR does read this, my suggestion is that you simply do as I intend to and ignore the diversionary tactics of Keltruth completely and simply answer the people who raise valid concerns.

    Of course you know that I am going to be named as Sir David, or Peter or Iain as soon as Keltruth reads this.


  23. The subject of the Keltrut Price Waterhouse story is that PWC paid big dollars to defend Peter Simmons.

    I would like to know why they did this. Does anyone have any ideas?

    Was it a favour? Was it because his brother is Chief Justice?

    Why would they pay for his defense?


  24. BWWR,

    My view is that you do not speak for most of the defendants. This is obvious.

    It is also obvious for whom you speak.


  25. BTW BWWR,

    I have been mistaken for other commenters before. Nothing new.


  26. The author of Keltruth Corp. has a stressful, full-time job. Comments of 10,000+ words (literally) will probably not receive a prompt response, if any.


  27. Keltruth Corp:

    I, personally, object to your family and cohorts, naming the Island of Barbados as a defendant in your sordid case. This includes me and all my relatives. I assure you we number in the thousands, having descended from one Scottish planter who had 36 children from both slave and white women alike.

    I count two former Chief Justices, Denys and Colin Williams in my family, so please, answer the questions posed.


  28. Pat,
    My family has not named the Island of Barbados as a defendant in any case, “sordid” or otherwise. My mother is a co-defendant with the Island of Barbados in the case you mention. You do not seem to have a grasp of who is suing whom – I suggest that you check my blog to read the actual court documents.


  29. Quel Truth,

    Pat is right. Your mother is one of the plaintiffs masquerading as a defendant – and you can preach like Paul about what the court documents say – they are fraudulent – like you.

    Madge could not sue as plaintiff, because she is not Canadian, but Bajan and she could not sue in Canada on a matter of Bajan land involving Bajan people and Bajan companies and Bajan laws. She cannot sue in Barbados, because the Canadian case is merely regurgitating the accusations on which she lost at the Privy Council. So, she has to find a “moniker” and her moniker is Nelson Barbados Holdings/Investments. She also has to make it seem as though her standing to bring an action has been transferred to Nelson, and, as we have all seen, this has been done fraudulently.

    It is all fraud.

    We have all, Pat included, read your site, Quel Truth. We have all seen the documents. AND we have all realized the fraud you are trying to perpetrate with them. However, because we are a just and equitable people with a rule of law and right of self-determination that pre-dates that of Canada by some hundreds of years, we have given you the benefit of the doubt and asked that you explain certain glaring inconsistencies – and all you have done is speculate about the identities and monikers of people asking the questions and try to distract us to avoid answering.

    Why has it not occurred to you that we are able to read and reason and are at least as bright as you and your cohorts?

    Why has it not occurred to you that Bajans find it repulsive and offensive that you and your cohorts have dragged our island and people and institutions into an action in Canada that has no basis, no foundation and no jurisdiction?

    Well, Quel Truth, we Bajans ARE offended. We are offended by the attempted betrayal and denigration of our country and people and institutions by some old Bajan divorcee and her three children who owe everything to Barbados and who are intent on sacrificing us Bajans on the alter of a Canadian billionaire, simply because we insist that our laws be obeyed and that our sovereignty is not up for grabs – at any price.

    But, we are a peaceful people who, while me may from time to time loose our cool and say things we do not mean and would certainly never carry out, we are law abiding and we intend to prove it by our actions, or lack of actions, in your direction and that of your cohorts. We also intend to show peacefully that we resent people like you and your cohorts trying to make us look like some violent banana republic.


  30. passin thru,

    Neither of us have any way of knowing the state of finances of Peter Simmons. $56,000 is a lot of money and Peter may have been unable to afford it. It is very possible.

    But look at the other side. Neither of us have any way of knowing the finance of Nelson Barbados and we have no way of knowing how the invoice of Nelson’s expert was paid – if by Nelson, Madge Knox, Peter Allard or by Mr. McKenzie’s law firm – or Mr McKenzie himself. Hell, we don’t even know how much the invoice was for the plaintiff. We do know that O.B.N. Security and Investigative Consultants Inc. was instructed and produced a report for Nelson.

    I am not saying that you are not wealthy, passin thru, I am saying IF you were wealthy and IF you were involved as a co-defendant in a lawsuit and one of your co-defendants could not afford to pay for a study needed for the defence, you might consider saying to him, “Look, man, come let we get the study done and me pay for it so we can get this thing done and over.” You might even add, “We gon win, so I will get the money back because the court will order the plaintiff to pay it back to me, so no worries.”

    And so, the matter is not held up while your co-defendant goes looking for the money to counter the study by the other side. This saves money for all the defendants and is not really a gamble, given the flimsy nature of the plaintiff’s motion. We have no way of knowing if there was an agreement with Peter Simmos or maybe ALL the defendants to pay back PWC.

    BWWR has, in my humble opinion, got it right as to how Keltruth got a copy of the invoice of Dr. Sharon S. Smith for her study carried out on behalf of Peter Simmons and paid for by PWC. I would guess that after Nelson lost, the judge heard a motion for costs and awarded costs against Nelson Barbados. PWC’s counsel and all the other counsel would then have needed to submit to Nelson Barbados a statement of their costs, backed up with invoices. Dr. Smith’s invoice would have been amongst those.

    The reverse is not true with the O.B.N. Security invoice paid by Nelson. Since Nelson has to pay costs, then there is no reason why they would send the defendants the O.B.N. Security invoice. So we do not know to whom the O.B.N. Security invoice was sent (it could have been to Peter Allard or Madge Knox, but we do not know). We don’t know how much it was for (it could have been for $100,000 for all we know).

    What I think the Canadian courts have to ask themselves and take under advisement is HOW DID KELTRUTH GET HOLD OF IT?

    Of course that question is one each of us Bajans must ask ourselves as well. How did Keltruth get hold of the invoice and also WHY? Might it be that Madge Knox is paying the costs of Nelson Barbados and had commissioned the O.B.N. Security study and was paying for it out of money “loaned” her by Peter Allard against the security of her shares in Kingsland?

    More questions for Keltruth and more chances for it to practice its evasion skills. I wonder what it will come up with this time. Maybe I will be named as being Mr. David Thompson this time in order to try to ACshift the focus of all BU readers.


  31. Interesting submissions indeed. This matter becomes more intriguing by the day. It reminds us of a boxing match!

    A little inconsistency does rear its head BWWR. If Peter Allard is allegedly financing Madge, and after so many cases which have been loss and much money spent, it shatters the assumption often made that people who have money would have created a disciplined behaviour which serves to protect it.

    This case begs the question to both sides. How long is too long?


  32. David,

    I could not agree with you more and I am struggling to understand Allard’s actions myself. Either the man is a spoiled brat who cannot take no for an answer or there is something between him and Madge Knox that we cannot expect Quel Truth to tell us. It just does not make business sense to me at all. But I am sure that I can get my hands on documents that show that Allard is financing Madge Knox and I am going to e-mail these to you when (and if) I manage to get them.

    It is an interesting case yes. But I am far more interested by your article on the consumer watchdog. High time Barbados had one.

  33. Red Lake Lassie Avatar
    Red Lake Lassie

    What is this BWWR always blaming Allard Allard Allard? How does she know that Allard is behind all this? Too conspiracy theory for me unless I am missing something in what I’ve read.

    As some of the others my warning bells are ringing with Price Waterhouse Coopers paying $56k or whatever it was for “a favour” to the brother of the Chief Justice.

    Too many “favours” on this island between big companies and politicians.


  34. Thanks BWWR and Anon 3, for this latest installment. I think when all this is finished I may mine this site and BFP and write me a trilogy. lol.


  35. Red Lake Lassie.

    Chile, all I can say is poor you. Or as Pat would say, you know not what you readeth. Suggest you read again – CAREFULLY, chile, and SLOWLY and let it all sink in this tme. Poor soul.

    Pat, when it is over I will get ALL the court documents are we can collaborate on that trilogy.

  36. Keltruth Corp. Avatar
    Keltruth Corp.

    I just wrote a post:
    “Kingsland Directors Do It Again! AGM called in Violation of Company’s Act”

    My pingback is probably being held in moderation.


  37. Why has it been accepted that PwC paid for the opinion? The invoice posted on the Keltruth website is not addressed to PwC, but to someone identified by Keltruth as PwC’s lawyer in the case.

    On the other hand, this has not been contested by BWWR (who appears to be an insider) so perhaps it IS true.

    However it is being repeated by others as fact, which is unfortunate.


  38. Brutus,

    I will not contest that the lawyer named is PWCs. Like you, I have to take the word of Keltruth that the lawyer in question is PWC’s lawyer.

    What I will do is suggest a scenario.

    Peter Simmons lawyer says that his client cannot afford a study to refute the one that Nelson Barbados has filed (paid for by we not know not whom and for a sum we know not what).

    Al the other lawyers make the decision that they will win the motion and costs will be awarded against Nelson Barbados, so Peter’s study will have to be paid for by Nelson Barbados – and it will not be costs in the cause payable at the end of the case, they will have to be paid straight away.

    So, one of the lawyers asks who will pay for the study. PWC says that it can be billed to them and then Nelson Barbados can pay them back.

    And so it proves to be and PWC sends in to Nelson Barbados its account to be settled by Nelson Barbados, including the study.

    Nelson Barbados sends it on to Keltruth, saying in effect, post this and raise a fuss – and Keltruth does exactly that.

    So, after all that, Brutus, yes, I am going to contest it as to who paid the bill. Nelson Barbados aka Allard/Knox/Little Billy Goat paid it. Nelson Barbados paid for Peter Simmons’ study, through PWC.


  39. […] the blogs to find the answer to that question. The blogs are scary. You go there for the lowdown on Kingsland or the split in the party only to find your name knocking dog and anonymous people discussing you […]


  40. BWWR, I’m disappointed by your refusal to answer my question. I know it’s not entirley, relevant to the subject but I am nonetheless, fascinated by it.

    Is it then, a novelty? R u the only one?

    Black woman who reads?

    Lord! 🙂


  41. Don’t worry, I’m sure that Pat will tell u to ignore me!!!!


  42. Bimbro

    I don’t see any question from you.


  43. Hi BWWR, thanks for the reply. Don’t worry, u probably, would n’t appreciate my sense of humour, anyway!!

    Regards and have a nice day in Bim! I envy you – being in Bim!!!!


  44. BWWR,

    I did not have to tell you anythng. He ‘who should not be named’ did it all by himself! lol


  45. I’m so amused!!!! What u got against CHRISTIANITY?!!!


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