Attached are charts for week ending 7th January 2022. So far, the daily cases have not topped 600 and have indeed been dropping v. slowly for the past 4 days. The charts suggest that Omicron has been here for nearly a month but the rate of increasing daily cases has dropped. Deaths and isolations have increased, but only marginally. Vaccinations uptake is still very slow.
Source: Lyall Small
https://barbados-covid19.blogspot.com/p/barbados-covid-19-status.html
@DavidBU January 3rd had 538 recorded positive cases.( just being pedantic about the not topping the 500 cases point). I am more interested in the deaths in comparison to the delta wave Barbados had. The prognosis is that Omicron is a less virulent but far more contagious variant than Delta. I read somewhere that Omicron “ends the pandemic”. It really should end it being a “dreaded virus” if the deaths are not as high.
The blogmaster is more concerned with pressure on a fragile healthcare system as we survey what is happening across the globe. Not to mention ongoing industrial relations unrest.
Former Biden health advisers say the US needs to change its Covid-19 strategy to face a ‘new normal’
By Naomi Thomas, Virginia Langmaid and Jamie Gumbrecht, CNN
Updated 2:57 PM EST, Thu January 06, 2022.
(CNN) Former health advisers to President Joe Biden say the US strategy for the Covid-19 pandemic needs to be updated to face a “new normal” of living with the virus, rather than aiming to eliminate it.
In three pieces published in the Journal of the American Medical Association on Thursday, six former Biden advisers proposed a new plan and detailed strategies for testing, mitigation, vaccines and treatments.
“Without a strategic plan for the ‘new normal’ with endemic COVID-19, more people in the US will unnecessarily experience morbidity and mortality, health inequities will widen, and trillions will be lost from the US economy,” wrote Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, a former Obama health adviser now with the University of Pennsylvania; Michael Osterholm, the director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota; and Dr. Celine Gounder, an infectious disease expert at Bellevue Hospital Center and at Grossman School of Medicine at New York University.
For this new strategy, “humility is essential,” they wrote. There remain unknowns about the virus and its future, and “predictions are necessary but educated guesses, not mathematical certainty.” Leaders will have to communicate specific goals and benchmarks, and national plans will need to be adapted for local use.
They push for modernized data infrastructure to provide real-time information, a bolstered public health work force, more and empowered school nurses, and moves to rebuild trust in public health institutions. Substantial resources will be needed to “build and sustain an effective public health infrastructure,” they write.
In the article on testing, surveillance and mitigation strategies, Emanuel, David Michaels of the Milken Institute School of Public Health, and Rick Bright, a former Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority official now with the Rockefeller Foundation, called the initial response to the virus “seriously flawed.”
“Even now, testing results are not reliably linked with sociodemographic data, vaccination status, or clinical outcomes; the availability of reliable rapid tests remains limited; and prices are too high.”
Dr. Sanjay Gupta: Coming out of Covid-19 isolation doesn’t have to be complicated
The authors called for low-cost and accessible testing with immediate advice when someone receives a positive result; improved air and wastewater surveillance and genomic sequencing; and a voucher program for accessing N95 and KN95 masks.
The first step in viral mitigation, they said, is to keep people away from those who are sick.
“This requires systematic access to testing and paid sick and family medical leave for all US workers, especially low-wage, temporary, freelance, contractor, and gig economy workers.”
In a third piece, Dr. Luciana Borio, a former US Food and Drug Administration official now with the Council on Foreign Relations, Bright and Emanuel call for vaccine mandates, variant-specific vaccines and accelerated efforts to develop a universal coronavirus vaccines, as well as rapid development of effective oral antivirals. “Integral to achieving and sustaining this ‘new normal’ are both faster development and more efficient deployment of vaccines and therapeutics,” they write.
Some estimates suggest that 90% or more of people in the US need some immunity to SARS-CoV-2 to minimize the effects of Covid-19 and return to normalcy, they write. Currently, about 62.3% of the total US population — about 207 million people — is fully vaccinated. Mandates will be required, they say, adding that “few countries have ever achieved such levels of coverage of any vaccine without vaccination requirements.”
“Proposed vaccine requirements for government employees and contractors, health care and long-term care workers, and employees of businesses with 100 or more employees will be necessary to achieve levels of coverage to return to pre-COVID-19 life expectancy and social and economic vitality,” they said.
Some of the advisers have spoken in the past about the Biden administration’s Covid-19 response, including in February, when four advisers and other experts urged mandates around N95 masks in a memo to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Occupational Safety and Health Administration.
Gripping….
DavidJanuary 7, 2022 8:40 PM
The blogmaster is more concerned with pressure on a fragile healthcare system as we survey what is happening across the globe. Not to mention ongoing industrial relations unrest.
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All the GOB has to do is to figure out which water source is the culprit after floods and deal with it.
I’ve done it all for them already.
This statement does not make sense based on current reactions of the Omicron variant to the various vax taken…
**Proposed vaccine requirements for government employees and […] will be necessary to achieve levels of coverage to return to pre-COVID-19 life expectancy and social and economic vitality,”*
How can that be despite the high incidence of vaxxed folks who STILL contract and transmit the virus.
Their key point of facing “a “new normal” of living with the virus, rather than aiming to eliminate it.” resonates clearly with most sensible people.
So @ David our fragile health system will need to cope and more Bajans will need to start living more healthily and managing this virus load a la Dr. Douglin’s methods …
But on the other hand there are those new perscription pills from Pfizer and Merck and a new very inexpensive vax (Corebevax) out of US via India that are now available.
But as many people still refuse to take any type of vax and some who do vax still catch it and retransmit this cycle of mutation and infection will prevail.
@ John
Are you suggesting our water tables are contaminated ?
Dirt FarmerJanuary 7, 2022 10:46 PM
@ John
Are you suggesting our water tables are contaminated ?
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No ground water is pure.
It is all a matter of meeting WHO standards.
Day to day, ~80% of the water extracted is difficult to contaminate, ~20% can be contaminated easily.
The ~80% is protected by zoning with a 2-300 day time of travel.
The ~20% is not.
The ~20% is not always contaminated but when it is it may cause problems for some of those who get it.
The larger the time of travel the surer we can be that concentrations of germs/bacteria etc reaching a pumping station are minimal.
Please note, rainfall ensures routine cleansing.
It is a dynamic situation underground.
We have a good water supply but like everything in this world, it has its problems.
DL&P TV
You wrote at 8:35 pm “DavidBU January 3rd had 538 recorded positive cases.( just being pedantic about the not topping the 500 cases point). I am more interested in the deaths in comparison to the delta wave Barbados had. The prognosis is that Omicron is a less virulent but far more contagious variant than Delta. I read somewhere that Omicron “ends the pandemic”. It really should end it being a “dreaded virus” if the deaths are not as high.”
You are right. My apologies for making the unintentional, erroneous point about Barbados not topping 500 cases. I should have written 600 cases instead. Also thanks for posting the blogspot URL again. You had posted it earlier and I saved it then but somehow lost it in the interim.
I suggested to David last month that I should add a deaths and an isolations chart as I thought that such data would give us a feel for how Omicron was affecting deaths and the number of isolations and, even perhaps, when it outcompeted the waning Delta variant and started affecting us. I think that at least 3 charts seem to be showing that it began affecting Barbados around 18th December which, if true, suggests to me that, even at this early stage, an outcome of significantly less than 3500 peak deaths per day is possible here. It also suggests that there is a slim possibility for Omicron to “end the epidemic” but that data is obviously not here yet and will need to take into account any future development of new variants. However, the early Omicron incidence info (last 3 weeks?) seems to be showing that at this stage Omicron incidence might already be waning slowly rather than waxing.
The blogspot data offers the most comprehensive suite of Covid-19 data I’ve seen so far for Barbados, especially the data on R0 values.
@ John
After some in-depth looking looking around:
The COVID-19 virus has not been detected in drinking water. Conventional water treatment methods that use filtration and disinfection, such as those in most municipal drinking water systems, should remove or kill the virus that causes COVID-19. However,
It looks like the COVID-19 coronavirus may be able to live in water for a few days, potentially even a few weeks. There is a big but, though. And you’ll like this big but. Just because a virus can survive in water doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s present in large enough concentrations to infect you.
Similarly, consider what is known about the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) in water. Indeed studies have suggested that the SARS-CoV2 could actually hang out in the wet stuff for a little while. For example, a study published in the journal Water Research in 2009 found that two viruses that have similarities to the original SARS virus, the transmissible gastroenteritis (TGEV) and mouse hepatitis (MHV) viruses, could survive up to days and even weeks in water. The University of North Carolina team (LisaCasanova, William A.Rutal, David J.Weber, and Mark D.Sobsey) that conducted the study concluded that “coronaviruses can remain infectious for long periods in water and pasteurized settled sewage, suggesting contaminated water is a potential vehicle for human exposure if aerosols are generated.”
Then there was the poopy study described by a paper posted April 17 on medRxiv. For this study, the team sampled sewage (you know, the watery stuff in sewers) in the greater Paris, France, area for over a month. They found that concentrations of the SARS-CoV2 correlated with the number of COVID-19 cases in the region over time. In other words, when COVID-19 cases were rising, so did the concentrations of the SARS-CoV2 in the sewage. This seems like one more reason why splashing sewage or taking a deep breath near sewage is probably not a great idea.
Take this second study with a grain of sewage though. It has not yet been published in a peer-reviewed scientific journal. That means real scientific experts haven’t had a chance to review the study for quality or accuracy. Telling people that you’ve posted something on medRxiv can be a bit like telling people that you’ve auditioned for America’s Got Talent. There’s no guarantee that this study will ever make it close to the final stage of getting published in a reputable peer-reviewed scientific journal.
Regardless, the results from both studies do suggest that the virus can survive for a little while in water, which initially may cause you to wet yourself. Before you do, here’s the big but again. Neither study showed that you can actually get infected with the COVID-19 coronavirus from water under the conditions that you’d normally be exposed to water. That means via drinking (assuming that you aren’t drinking sewage or some other type of dirty water), showering, or swimming (assuming that you don’t swim in sewage.)
Moreover, the great thing about water is that it’s water. It tends to dilute things. Even if the COVID-19 coronavirus were to somehow make the epic journey of getting into your drinking water, it may not be at high enough concentrations to be of risk to you. This goes back to the whole beard thing. Every virus has a minimum infectious dose, the amount of virus that needs to be present to cause illness. Although it’s not completely clear yet what the minimum infectious dose for SARS-CoV-2 may be, dilution makes it less likely that what reaches you can surpass this threshold.
The same probably goes for water in pools and hot tubs. The CDC indicates that “there is no evidence that the virus that causes COVID-19 can be spread to people through the water in pools, hot tubs, spas, or water play areas.” For these things, not only would the water dilute the virus, but also disinfection with chlorine and bromine would likely inactivate the virus.
Municipalities add chemicals to the water when it is treated. One of the most common chemicals used in water treatment is chlorine, which is used as a disinfectant to kill bacteria and other microbes. Sometimes chloramine, a combination of chlorine and ammonia, is also used.
Barbados water has a very high Chlorine level. Probably higher than 50-200PPM.
However, safety first. Boil your drinking water 💦
re The blogspot data offers the most comprehensive suite of Covid-19 data I’ve seen so far for Barbados, especially the data on R0 values.
Dr Smith, Sir. With all dur respect to your scholarship and expertise, whereas your charts make lovely reading, and is the sort of info to be found in Pathology texts like Robins, or Rubins or Anderson, which ever one you prefer, who is this information helping where the rubber meets the road? Bajans are still being infected, and even passing away, because of the failure to treat this malady effectively, as has been done since its inception.
What we need on the island is not epidemiological exegesis; we need the exhibition of correct pharmaceuticals.
No doubt some medical illiterate will now seek to contradict me with their myopic moronic mouthings or an efflux of bovine excrement from their betzpaenic brains.
Dirt FarmerJanuary 8, 2022 1:34 AM
@ John
After some in-depth looking looking around:
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Go look at Australia!!
It looks pretty clear from what is going on in Australia that the virus needs floods/water to move from host to host in any significant way.
Western Australia says it all.
Western Australia
Total cases 82
(December 24, 2021 – January 6, 2022)
Compare with
New South Wales
Total cases 262,476
(December 24, 2021 – January 6, 2022)
Or Compare with
Queensland
Total cases 54,700
(December 24, 2021 – January 6, 2022)
Or with
Victoria
Total cases 120,759
(December 24, 2021 – January 6, 2022)
Or with
South Australia
Total cases 29,294
(December 24, 2021 – January 6, 2022)
Big picture
Australia
Australia
Total cases 410,685
(December 24, 2021 – January 6, 2022)
So Western Australia, about half of the continent of Australia has 82 cases while the whole continent has 410,685 for the same period.
Western Australia has a population of 2.7 million.
Australia has a population of 25.9 million.
About 10% of the population has 0.02% and the only thing that clearly is different is it has had no floods.
We are actually in good shape as no floods recently.
The feared increase in Ohmicron is probably not going to occur if we consider what has happened in Australia.
Time will tell.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/australia-news-live-update-victoria-surpasses-nsw-with-51-356-new-covid-cases-including-rapid-test-results-tennis-australia-under-pressure/ar-AASy2am?ocid=msedgntp
Versus
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/wa-mask-mandate-scrapped-as-state-records-zero-covid19-cases/100743920
Don’t look at the apple, look at its movement as it falls.
That way you can be like Sir Isaac Newton and come up with something original.
If you apply what you see in WA to Barbados then contrary to what every expert says, Barbados should see falling cases in COVID.
It’s mostly in the water and that’s why the world has such a problem, they don’t have a clue.
They are not watching the Apple move.
Their attention is focused on the Apple itself.
lyallsmallJanuary 8, 2022 12:29 AM
DL&P TV
You wrote at 8:35 pm “DavidBU January 3rd had 538 recorded positive cases.( just being pedantic about the not topping the 500 cases point).
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On the 6th January, cases were 407 …. they dropped 131 cases …. and in 3 days!!
That’s about 20% in 3 days.
If cases drop another 20% in 3 days cases will be around 320 on the 9th.
If they drop another 20% in the next 3 days, cases will be around 250.
… and so on.
But there is another aspect to be applied, the spike we are looking at now is driven by young people and cases resolve quickly in the young.
Dirt FarmerJanuary 8, 2022 1:34 AM
However, safety first. Boil your drinking water 💦
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Unfortunately, not good enough!!!
It gets into your body through your eyes, nose and mouth when you bathe.
Since you use alot more water when you bathe, the probability of encountering the virus is higher when you bathe!!
If you live in a distribution zone where the 20% supplies, then try and do your bathing in a zone that gets all of its water from the 80%.
If not, put your bathing water to sit for 6 weeks before using it!!
Means you need to do some planning depending on where you live.
If you live in Western Australia, no problem!!
Lyall
The problem with the death data is that the current spike is driven by the young.
So, are deaths reduced because of the ohmigod, or by the fact that many cases are the young?
The other aspect to be considered in the death data is the mode of infection.
By water and you get more, by air and you get less.
This spike in the young, probably when they spreed, is caused by airborne transmission.
So, I would expect fewer deaths than if it had been by waterborne transmission.
Lyall
Don’t look at the Apple!!
Neither you nor I are qualified to opine on whether ohmigod is more or less contagious or more or less deadly.
All either of us can do is to look at the numbers.
I can also apply a little engineering know how.
JohnJanuary 8, 2022 4:33 AM
Lyall
Don’t look at the Apple!!
Neither you nor I are qualified to opine on whether ohmigod is more or less contagious or more or less deadly.
All either of us can do is to look at the numbers.
I can also apply a little engineering know how.
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There is however one set of data anyone can understand and opine on the the virulence of ohmigod version.
0.02% of the cases in Australia come from the West where there are no floods.
99.98% come from the Eastern side where there are floods.
Even Gearbox could figure that one out!!
Source: Nation
Elderly infections should be of concern
The Covid vaccine as being told cannot prevent the virus
The concern for the elderly should be one of great concern as many of them does not have the required treatment and help at home to fight the virus
Also some when placed in isolation becomes mentally depressed and mental issues takes a toll on them physically at time leading to death
DavidJanuary 8, 2022 6:02 AM
Omicron Study in South Africa Points to End of Acute Pandemic Phase
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-07/omicron-may-mark-end-of-pandemic-south-african-researchers-say
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It will end when the weather changes, like the Spanish Flu.
No one will know why.
There will be all sorts of theories!!!
Here is one school of thought as to why the Spanish Flu was so bad.
It took 100 years to get to this study.
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/10/study-offers-clues-to-how-climate-affected-1918-pandemic/#:~:text=A%20new%20collaborative%20study%20by,and%20torrential%20rain%20from%20the
“While the rain and mud of the battlefields have been heavily chronicled, “the thing that we didn’t know was what anomaly caused that,” More said. “We also didn’t know how that anomaly functioned, that it was a six-year anomaly. We didn’t know the close pattern between the precipitation record and the pandemic. Basically, we saw a spike in cold, wet marine air from the northwest Atlantic that came down into Europe and lingered.””
History repeating itselt 100 years later?
https://www.express.co.uk/news/weather/1538267/uk-weather-frost-overnight-winter-christmas-ont
@JohnK, your colleague @LyallS suggested to you many posts ago that you should use your scholarly academic association to colleagues at UWI and across our Govt’s depts (and indeed regionally and internationally) to have your theories examined.
One can only assume that you have done so and that this daily self pleasuring is merely to fill some time as you continue a rigorous debate with your academic peers!
It would be awesome for you to celebrate your decades long recent legal victory with the outstanding validation of cracking this Sars-19 code with your aquatic analysis …
Is analytical examination with peers even considered or is showing off your scholarship to brimblers like us your sole intent!
Any further chatter without a comment from that French institute that made you a ‘fellow’ or UWI answers the query unequivocally … so no other response needed … just act or be done with this palaver.
JOIN IN THE DISCUSSION, YOU NEVER KNOW HOW EXPRESSING YOUR VIEW MAY MAKE A DIFFERENCE. IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE MOTTO AND RAISON D’ETRE OF THE BARBADOS UNDERGROUND AND THIS BRIGHT SATURDAY WE READ A TOTAL SCIENTIFIC ILLITERATE ACCOSTING A SCHOLAR WITH THIS PIECE OF BOVINE EXCREMENT FROM HIS BETZPAENIC BRAIN
Any further chatter without a comment from that French institute that made you a ‘fellow’ or UWI answers the query unequivocally … so no other response needed … just act or be done with this palaver.
I SUPPOSE THIS COMMENT SUBSTITUTES FOR THE CARTOON SECTION THAT ONE FINDS IN A DAILY NEWSPAPER
SOME ARE ALLOWED TO SPEW THEIR GARBAGE ON BU UNRESTRICTED, OTHERS MUST BE MALLIGNED WITH IMPUNITY BECAUSE THEIR IGNORANCE AND ENVY MUST BE DISPLAYED, AND ONLY A FEW ARE HERE ALLOWED TO CRITICIZE
HILARIOUS
JOHN
CARRY ON WITH YOUR THEORY AND REPORTING
I HAVE DECIDED (LIKE CRITICAL, IT SEEMS ) THAT IT IS POINTLESS TO TRY TO REPORT HERE ON THE FINDINGS OF THOSE IN THE COMMUNITY OF SERIOUS VIROLOGISTS, MICROBIOLOGISTS AND MEDICS THE REAL TRUTHS CONCERNING THE PATHOPHYSIOLOGY AND PRACTICAL THERAPEUTIC APPROACH TO MANAGING THE PANDEMIC.
I SIT WITH MIRTH AND ASTONISHMENT AS I LISTEN TO SINCERE BELIEVERS IN BIM ON ZOOM MEETINGS PRAYING AND ASKING GOD TO GUIDE GOVERNMENT IN BARBADOS IN MANAGING THIS PANDEMIC, AND WONDER IF THEY ARE READING THE SAME BIBLE THAT I HAVE STUDIED.
JESUS WORDS IN THE BIRTH PANG PRONOUNCEMENT OF THE OLIVET DISCOURSE RECORDED IN MATHHEW 24:7-8
IS VERY CLEAR, AND IS BEING FULFILLED
IT IS MOST IMPERATIVE THAT THE WORD PESTILENCES IS PLURAL.
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
VERSE 8 INDICATES THAT WE HAVE NOT REALLY SEEN ANYTHING YET. NOTE THE KEY WORDS IN VERSE 8 BEGINNING ….AND……..SORROWS.
@Dr. GP I have no interest in starting 2022 sparring needlessly with you so this is a completion comment rather than an installment in any debate.
1.If you find it edifying that a gentlemen with a very solid academic background in scientific analysis pompasettes daily here with what he describes indirectly as a seminal interpretation of data related to a pandemic and determines that his analysis is comparable to the studies which (100 years later) provided clear evidence on causation and cessation of the Spanish Flu pandemic is truly awesome … then more power to you.
2.Scholarship is NOT about bragging that you are a scholar … it’s about putting that brilliant mind to work to SOLVE problems.
So if your fellow who worked with UWI scientist and said he also received ‘fellowship’ acclaim from international institutes does not have the CONVICTION or COURAGE to discuss them with like minded academics and you want to give him solace that we ‘illiterates’ should never question him, then again more power to you.
Carry on smartly sir, I am sure everyone here is truly awed by all the scholarship exhibited by him and even more impressed that his Nobel level pearls is being thrown to us swine.
As the blogmaster said a few days ago, as long as you understand the psychology of the person then it’s not too difficult to understand what’s being done!
Be safe and enjoy a great 2022.. I GONE.
@Dee Word
You will do well to take your advise. This is a new year like you stated.
DPD
RE As the blogmaster said a few days ago, as long as you understand the psychology of the person then it’s not too difficult to understand what’s being done!
ARE YOU SERIOUS?
ARE YOU REALLY SEEKING TO SAY THAT THE BLOG OWNER IS A PSYCHOLOGIST? OR ARE YOU THE PAID CARTOONIST ON THE BLOG?
CAN YOU OR THE BLOG OWNER REALLY EXPLAIN THE PSYCHE OF ANYONE WHO COMES ON BU?
RE I am sure everyone here is truly awed by all the scholarship exhibited by him and even more impressed that his Nobel level pearls is being thrown to us swine.
YOUR SARCASM IS UNNECESSARY. MOST DUMMIES ARE NEVER truly awed by the scholarship exhibited BECAUSE IT USUALLY TENDS TOP PASS OVER THEIR HEADS AND SHALLOW BETZPAENIC NON CEREBRATING BRAINS
HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT HE does not have the CONVICTION or COURAGE to discuss them with like minded academics OR HAS NOT DONE SO?
RE Scholarship is NOT about bragging that you are a scholar …it’s about putting that brilliant mind to work to SOLVE problems.
HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT PROBLEMS THE MAN HAS SOLVED? I KNOW THE ONES I HAVE SOLVED AND HE NO DOUBT KNOWS THOSE THAT HE HAS SOLVED. UH LIE? WHAT PROBLEMS HAVE YOU SOLVED? WHAT PROBLEMS CAN YOU SOLVE? STICK TO THOSE?
WHY DO YOU , A SCIENTIFIC DUMMY WHO THINK THAT POST MORTEMS SHOULD BE AN EMERGENCY, THINK THAT YOU CAN ADVISE A MAN WHO IS SEEKING TO COMMENT ON AN ISSUE LEGITIMATELY SEEKING TO APPLY THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD TO SOLVING A PROBLEM?
YOU FIRST CAME ON THE BLOG SEEKING TO CHALLENGE ME ON MEDICAL MATTERS, AND YOU HAVE NOT YET LEARNED. THIS IS NOT THE DEBATING SOCIETY AT ELLERSLIE.
AND YOU ARE NOT AND WILL NEVER BE AN ACADEMIC OR SCHOLARLY. SO LISTEN AND YOU MIGHT LEARN SOMETHING.
IT IS INDEED A NEW YEAR, BUT BU IS STILL THE SAME OLE, SAME OLE.
BUT ONE CANT GET BLOOD FROM STONE.
WHEN PROVACATEURING WAS ALLOWED TO BEGIN ON BU, IT WAS NOT THOUGHT HOW IT WOULD END, DID IT?
Getting worser up north!!
COVID probably isn’t letting up any time soon up that side.
Suspect they got months ahead of them in both the UK and Europe.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/flood-alerts-in-place-as-uk-faces-wet-and-wintry-weekend/ar-AASyO55?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=W069
RE Getting worser up north!!
IN ADDITION TO COVID probably isn’t letting up any time soon up that side. IT IS QUITE APPARENT ALSO,.THAT GLOBAL WARMING IS NOT REALLY OCCURING ………..AND CERTAINLY NOT DUE TO CARBON DIOXIDE EMMISSIONS
BUT THEN IT SHOULD BE OBVIOUS TO THOSE WHO UNDERSTAND CHEMISTRY AND BIOCHEMISTRY, THAT WHEN CARBON DIOXIDE IS EMMITED INTO THE AIR THAT IN COMPANY WITH WATER AND LIGHT IT RESULTS IN THE FORMATION OF GLUCOSE UNITS, WHICH WHEN LINKED TOGETHER IBY ALPHA OR BETA BONDS PROVIDES CARBOHYDRATES, AS GOD HAS ORDAINED AND PURPOSED FROM THE BEGINNING OF TIME.
THIS SOUND DOCTRINE THAT CAN NOT BE REFUTED
GP
A friend once gave me Psalm 91 to consider after a miraculous deliverance from a physical assault.
I should have been if not dead then seriously injured.
Three verses stuck in my mind as I tried to understand how its words were even physically possible and made natural sense.
5 Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;
6 Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.
7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.
I imagined a soldier in the thick of battle and thousands falling around him and yet he remained untouched and I wondered how that would be possible, what natural laws would God have to bend to keep that soldier safe?
As time went on I realise I was thinking too small and expanded the boundaries from a localised battle to a world wide war.
I see all the natural laws in force during this pandemic/pestilence and yet I see some areas untouched and others hammered.
… and I watch and wonder if this isn’t God showing his immense power and delivering on what He said.
I watch as thousands and tens of thousands fall during this pandemic/pestilence on a scale I have never known.
I can explain it using water without watching one natural law being bent and it makes perfect sense to my engineering mind.
There is nothing unnatural or supernatural about it.
de pedantic DribblerJanuary 8, 2022 10:21 AM
@JohnK, your colleague @LyallS suggested to you many posts ago that you should use your scholarly academic association to colleagues at UWI and across our Govt’s depts (and indeed regionally and internationally) to have your theories examined.
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Done it but that is too small a group.
John January 8, 2022 12:53 PM
SOUND DOCTRINE THAT CAN NOT BE REFUTED
BUT THE WORK OF GOD IS QUITE NATURAL TO HIM AND VERY SUPERNATURAL TO US
AND THE TENETS OF PSALM 91 HAS INDEED BEEN DISPLAYED IN THE PASS AND CONTINUES TO BE DISPLAYED EVEN IN THE PANDEMIC
JOHN
THIS NOTE IS FOR YOU AND CRITICAL, AND THEO , MEN WHO HAVE THE CAPACITY TO UNDERSTAND VIROLOGY MICROBIOLOGY AND THE RELATED BIOCHEMISTRY
IT IS SOUND DOCTRINE THAT CAN NOT BE REFUTED AND THIS IS BEING EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING ON
Why mRNA shots are incapable of stopping infection and transmission of Covid-19.
“A fundamental mistake underlying the development of the COVID-19 vaccines was to neglect the functional distinction between the two major categories of antibodies which the body produces in order to protect itself from pathogenic microbes,” the doctors note.
“The first category (secretory IgA) is produced by immune cells (lymphocytes) which are located directly underneath the mucous membranes that line the respiratory and intestinal tract,” they point out. “The antibodies produced by these lymphocytes are secreted through and to the surface of the mucous membranes. These antibodies are thus on site to meet air-borne viruses, and they may be able to prevent viral binding and infection of the cells.”
“The second category of antibodies (IgG and circulating IgA) occur in the bloodstream,” the doctors go on. “These antibodies protect the internal organs of the body from infectious agents that try to spread via the bloodstream.”
“Vaccines that are injected into the muscle – i.e., the interior of the body – will only induce IgG and circulating IgA, not secretory IgA. Such antibodies cannot and will not effectively protect the mucous membranes from infection by SARS-CoV-2,” the article continues. “Thus, the currently observed ‘breakthrough infections’ among vaccinated individuals merely confirm the fundamental design flaws of the vaccines.”
“Measurements of antibodies in the blood can never yield any information on the true status of immunity against infection of the respiratory tract,” they add. “The inability of vaccine-induced antibodies to prevent coronavirus infections has been reported in recent scientific publications.”
In other words, there was never a time when any scientist could claim these “vaccines” could “prevent transmission” based on any empirical evidence. They either lied about claiming they knew that they could stop transmission or they deliberately designed the “vaccines” to be vectors for virus transmission in order to justify universal vaccine mandates.
Thus, while the scientific data suggest the mRNA shots being marketed as ‘vaccines’ may correlate with a lowered risk of hospitalization and death among the ‘at-risk’ segment of the population, the vaccines are not an impediment to infection or transmission.
Therefore, vaccine mandates and vaccine passports are irrelevant from a public policy standpoint. They do nothing but balkanize society, violate individuals’ health rights, and introduce more long-term medical unknowns for Americans who are not significantly at-risk from Covid-19 (such as those who are young or have natural immunity).
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David January 7, 2022 8:40 PM
David January 8, 2022 6:02 AM
David January 8, 2022 6:17 AM
https://www.who.int/news/item/28-11-2021-update-on-omicron
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00007-8?utm_source=Nature+Briefing
Available info states that this variant does not readily multiply in lung tissue as the other variants and stays mostly in the upper respiratory tract. To use a BASIC comparison, the effects would more resemble the common cold than to influenza. Multiplying in the upper respiratory tract will help continue its transmission via coughing, sneezing, talking. My guesstimate is that cumulatively it will place no greater burden to the health care system that the delta wave. (it may place more burden on the isolation facilities)
if this prognosis maintains it would translate to more positive cases but a even smaller probability of individuals developing severe symptoms leading to hospitalization or death. A greater percentage would require only tertiary isolation but since it is even more contagious the absolute number of deaths should not surpass those experienced under Delta
That would be closest thing to good news in a pandemic, where a less virulent strain becomes dominant.
@DL&P
Aren’t we witnessing increasing hospitalizations in countries where omicron is present?
Especially among children?
“Child hospitalization rates hit record highs as Omicron variant becomes prevalent – CNN
https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/07/health/us-coronavirus-friday/index.html”
It was minus 14C this morning in the Tdot where I live
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/severe-illness-not-rising-at-the-same-explosive-rate-as-covid-19-cases-hospitalizations-tam-1.5731430
Hope you are taking care of yourself Hants AND the fancy vehicle.
@David, yes indeed I will heed my own advice 😇!
So to you @JohnK, should I interprete your post that “Done it but that is too small a group” to mean that your hypothesis was dismissed out of hand or considered as non-evidence based blather ???🙈
I believe that a subset of your colleague scientific, engineering and public health prossional and academics across local Govt depts, the region and then from selected international institutions would be a quite ‘large’ sample of the desired population needed to have your theories duly examined.
That you would call it ‘too small’ is startlingly amusing.
Fact is, waste water analysis is quite a standard research methodology in most well organized municipalities so the basics of what you suggest is readily done.
What is likely outlandishly lacking in your modeling is the assertion that the virus can be found in large enough concentrations in our TREATED potable water to cause widespread infection!
Finding the virus in sewerage is understandable as that waste includes excreted matter and other DNA materials from a human source (also diluted yes but UNTREATED).
So if municipalities are treating their waste and DETECTING covid why would they NOT also check their intake water CAREFULLY also!
Thus being scientifically illiterate as I am, I ask you again: was your thesis dismissed out of hand as meritless blather?
Did colleagues at BWA tell you the testing details for Bowmaston or Belle ?
What about in other islands … what did your ‘small’ group of contacts report?
Please advise … I am keen to know and I suspect so is your colleague @LyallS and others too!
BTW this postscript I found on the Bloomberg site … no doubt you are aware of this.
“Federal agencies in the U.S. set up the National Wastewater Surveillance System to inform and coordinate the patchwork of state and local efforts. …. Scientists at the University of California Merced have helpfully created a sweeping CovidPoops19 dashboard to post information on global wastewater testing, currently covering efforts in 58 countries.”
That type of thing can be an excellent predictive model – as I believe you have already pointed out – in determining the imminent spread of the virus across a locality. Possibly better even (when analyzed properly) than testing!
UK is first country in Europe to pass 150K cases/day.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/uk-first-country-in-europe-to-pass-150000-covid-deaths-figures-show/ar-AASzlD5?ocid=msedgdhp
… beg pardon, 150K deaths.
JOHN
MONKEY IS HANDLING GUN AGAIN
ONCE MORE A BAJAN IDIOT THINKS THAT HE CAN CEREBRATE AT A HIGHER LEVEL THAN A FELLOW BAJAN WHO IS ACTUALLY A SCHOLAR
ONCE MORE A BAJAN IDIOT THINKS THAT ONCE FOLK OVERSEAS COME UP WITH SOME DETAILS OR INFORMATION, THAT A BAJAN SCHOLAR’S OPINION IS NONSENSE
THE MAN HAS BEEN ABLE TO RELATE EMPIRICAL DATA THAT SUGGESTS FLOODING IS RELATED TO AN INCREASED INCIDENCE IN CASES.
THAT HAS LED REASONABLY TO THE HYPOTHESIS THAT HE HAS ADOPTED ACCORDING TO THE ESTABLISHED TENETS OF THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD
LET THE JACKASS BRAY JOHN
YOU TO DO NOT NEED TO ANSWER BALAAM’S QUESTIONS OR REVEAL YOUR FINDINGS TO AN IDIOT
CONTINUE THINKING ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND REVEAL YOUR FINDINGS IN YOUR OWN TIME IN A FORUM OF YOUR REAL PEERS WHO CAN UNDERSTAND, SUCH AS A JOURNAL IN YOUR AREA OF EXPERTISE
426 are voting age
https://barbadostoday.bb/2022/01/08/barbados-records-495-new-cases-of-covid-19/
If Covid19 was being spread via untreated, improperly treated or otherwise contaminated tap water, would there not also be a rise in other water borne diseases?
Has there been a rise of water borne diseases here, there or anywhere?
If so can you please document for us where such rise(s) have occurred?
Thanks
@GP – EX SCHOLAR January 8, 2022 1:36 PM ““A fundamental mistake underlying the development of the COVID-19 vaccines…Therefore, vaccine mandates and vaccine passports are irrelevant from a public policy standpoint. They do nothing but balkanize society, violate individuals’ health rights, and introduce more long-term medical unknowns for Americans who are not significantly at-risk from Covid-19 (such as those who are young or have natural immunity).”
Kindly provide the bibliographic citation for this article. Thanks
Anti-vaccine protesters rally in France, Germany, Austria, Italy
https://aje.io/fcf7ct
Cuhdear BajanJanuary 9, 2022 2:04 AM
If Covid19 was being spread via untreated, improperly treated or otherwise contaminated tap water, would there not also be a rise in other water borne diseases?
Has there been a rise of water borne diseases here, there or anywhere?
If so can you please document for us where such rise(s) have occurred?
Thanks
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Sure.
Look at the symptoms ascribed to COVID and you will see about 8.
COVID is a mixture of diseases.
Vomiting and diarrhea!!?????
Heard of Gastric Flu before where people not only have the flu but they catch the bowels too.
Then there is is the recent spate of mysterious diseases around the world.
Flurona for one and all sorts of mysterious diseases are appearing.
Vomiting is a possible symptom of COVID-19
Symptoms may appear 2-14 days after exposure to the virus. People with these symptoms may have COVID-19:
Fever or chills
Cough
Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing
Fatigue
Muscle or body aches
Headache
New loss of taste or smell
Sore throat
Congestion or runny nose
Nausea or vomiting
Diarrhea
Look for emergency warning signs for COVID-19. If someone is showing any of these signs, seek emergency medical care immediately:
Trouble breathing
Persistent pain or pressure in the chest
New confusion
Inability to wake or stay awake
Pale, gray, or blue-colored skin, lips, or nail beds, depending on skin tone
Call your medical provider for any other symptoms that are severe or concerning to you.
How many other diseases can you identify from this list of symptoms?
Why are vomiting and diarrhea symptoms people with COVID get sometimes or not at all?
Dead give away … but I’m no doctor!!
Seems everything has to be COVID these days!!
Give me the old time diagnostic abilities of doctors.
These new fangled approaches are confusing.
I used to deal with all sorts of complex equipment on a production line and I know the art of diagnosis as applied to technical problems.
I got to a stage where I was a guru and could walk up to a machine listen to the operator’s complaint and go straight to the fix.
Sometimes I could put my hand on the machine and feel the problem.
Each set of symptoms elicited a different course of action.
Humans of course are alot more complex but it seems that everything is diagnosed as COVID, and big able adults accept the crap these days.
Listen to Dr. Chetty or Dr. Mello, and hear them say they dealt with different symptoms and changing diagnoses.
The developed countries that went for the one size fits all are the ones with the most deaths.
Doctors who watched, listened, deduced and diagnosed have amazing records, 7000 and zero deaths.
Source: Nation
Cases are a falling, so much for the predicted surge!!
Did you know that “Nearly 75% of the worldwide communicable diseases are waterborne [7]. The removals of diseases causing organisms from drinking water are absolutely necessary to healthy life [8].”
This article describes what happened in Pakistan in 2010 the last time the world was in this climate cycle.
We expect Pakistan to see a surge of COVID cases as January progresses given their recent floods.
https://scholar.googleusercontent.com/scholar?q=cache:MGDgbNZMEvIJ:scholar.google.com/&hl=en&as_sdt=0,5
Question is how high will the cases go?
https://imgur.com/RK4SvRi
When Governments pass laws conspiracy theorist nutters will start up and many will be taken in. This applies to bigger countries like USA, UK but also filters down to smaller countries like Barbados etc. Infected are expected to isolate as a courtesy to others, which applies to the election too. Time is the healer and waiting out and surviving the present is the key living past the critical stage of the global pandemic.
In 2021, the Cuba government, indirectly, appealed to her neighbours within the region (Caribbean nations) to assist them financially to develop Covid-19 vaccines which would have benefitted the region. This was at a time when Cuban was under sieged by the virus.
Barbados response to this request was bizarre. Our Prime Minister chose to ignore the coded request. Instead, she knowingly allowed a local business man with no knowledge of the pharmaceutical industry to procure vaccines by any means necessary.
Cuba soldiered on in glorious isolation eventually finding a suitable vaccine.
Caribbean governments chose to surrender their sovereignty to wealthier nations to secure overpriced vaccines without a single regard of how this would impact their nation’s economy, health and sovereignty.
The link below is a balanced view of Cuba’s failures and success as a nation. Compare and contrast this with Barbados a country which has been assisted by all and sundry since her independence.
Mia has a record. She has proven herself to be a Houdini with enormous self-preservation properties. Sadly, she is not a great leader. She lacks vision and is incapable of progressing the nation. Three and a half years in government and what has she achieved?
Read the link below. We have a mediocre leader whose record pales into insignificance when compared to other leaders of states.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/05/cuba-coronavirus-covid-vaccines-success-story
re The developed countries that went for the one size fits all are the ones with the most deaths.
BECAUSE THAT IS NOT HOW MEDICINE IS TO BE PRACTICED
Doctors who watched, listened, deduced and diagnosed have amazing records, 7000 and zero deaths.
BECAUSE THAT IS THE WAY THAT MEDICINE HAS ALWAYS BEEN PRACTICED
THAT IS THE WAY THAT MEDICINE IS TO BE PRACTICED
JohnJanuary 9, 2022 4:03 AM
Did you know that “Nearly 75% of the worldwide communicable diseases are waterborne [7]. The removals of diseases causing organisms from drinking water are absolutely necessary to healthy life [8].”
This article describes what happened in Pakistan in 2010 the last time the world was in this climate cycle.
We expect Pakistan to see a surge of COVID cases as January progresses given their recent floods.
https://scholar.googleusercontent.com/scholar?q=cache:MGDgbNZMEvIJ:scholar.google.com/&hl=en&as_sdt=0,5
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So let’s think about this for a moment.
There is no body of scientific work done to explore the possibility that the virus is in the water supplied by Governments/private entities to their fellow citizens.
The vaccination is therefore predicated on the need to get around contaminated water.
For me the possibility of major class action lawsuits exists when people finally realise the con.
Then again, maybe they won’t and we will all live happily ever after.
If you wanted to get cynical you could say the scientific community is concealing the truth and deliberately misleading Governments in the advice they have given to them.
So it looks like we have had Doctors, Scientists and Governments across the globe who have caused an awful lot of strife and death.
… and they are all at a loss trying to understand why some people won’t take their vaccination.
About to unfold in the great USA.
Citigroup will terminate unvaccinated workers by Jan. 31, a first among Wall Street banks
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/07/citigroup-is-the-first-major-wall-street-bank-to-terminate-unvaccinated-workers.html
Meanwhile, over in merry old England the complete opposite!!
“End mass jabs and treat Covid like flu, says ex-head of vaccine taskforce.
His comments come as the UK recorded more than 150,000 Covid deaths since the start of the pandemic”
He obviously has figured out what I figured out!!
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/covid-vaccine-flu-dr-clive-dix-b1989464.html
https://globalnews.ca/news/8021706/vaccinated-ontario-mother-son-contract-covid/
Hants
WHO: Waterborne Disease is World’s Leading Killer
October 29, 2009 1:28 PM
Jessica Berman
The World Health Organization says that every year more than 3.4 million people die as a result of water related diseases, making it the leading cause of disease and death around the world. Most of the victims are young children, the vast majority of whom die of illnesses caused by organisms that thrive in water sources contaminated by raw sewage. VOA’s Jessica Berman has more on the story.
https://www.voanews.com/a/a-13-2005-03-17-voa34-67381152/274768.html
Add 90% of the 5.5 million dead over two years due to COVID (the other 10% is airborne spread which the Governments of the world have spent untold resources fighting).
My bet is that neither the mother nor the son has even remotely considered the possibility that it is in their water … not always … but enough to catch the two of them.
They just happened to consume or wash in the wrong batch of water.
The tenant probably did too!!
It is amazing the WHO or no authority has sought to link water and COVID.
The problem is that when they look it’s been gone for several days while the infection grows in affected people.
Just needs to appear sporadically to cause pandemonium, stop people thinking and hide in plain sight
Most of the 3.4 million who died pre COVID were in the developing world.
COVID has equalized things as many of the COVID deaths occur in industrialized/advanced/urbanized countries.
The problem is the Governments of first world countries can’t countenance the possibility of water in their countries being contaminated.
That is for turd world countries.
They are confident in their technologies without even understanding how they work and where the vulnerabilities are.
So while we watch helplessly as cases spiral upwards in Canada, the US, UK, Europe etc., Barbados has survived its flood surge, celebrated the festive season and experienced a spike and now returns to normal.
The first world can learn from countries like Barbados, Grenada, Dominica etc. because the scale on which the problems occur are far smaller and more easily understood.
The UK, Canada etc stopped thinking ages ago when cases went ballistic.
The experts don’t have a clue as is shown by the 5.5 million dead.
Have not had the time to research it but read of cases found in Cyprus with blended characteristics of delta and omicron.
I just read a newspaper article about Omicron in Kenya. The Omicron wave is almost over there, there were hardly any deaths.
This shows once again the superiority of the original human race from Africa over the decadent, fat, car-driving European type.
We need more true Africans in Barbados!
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I am looking for the prediction where you said we will be down to 100 cases by Friday.
Guessing a next number comes out of your hat on Friday. Is your hat located next to the UWI hat?
@🐇/🐰
I am looking for the prediction where you said we will be down to 100 cases by Friday.
Guessing a next number comes out of your hat on Friday.
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Estimates are really guesstimates.
Emerging new variants means that established models cannot be very robust. The hope would be that models for older variants would also be useful for new variants, but quiet often models need to be updated.