One of the saddest days in the few decades this blogmaster has lived in Barbados was yesterday. For close to five months Barbadians from the village to the heights have viewed on smart TVs and cellphone screens the havoc being wreaked on developed countries. Italy, UK, Canada, France, Japan and the USA are listed as G7 countries with significantly greater resources than Barbados. Despite a superior economic status the healthcare and capacity to apply meaningful logistics by these countries continue to be challenged by COVID 19.
On a related note the blogmaster followed a robust conversation making the rounds in Trinidad this week where Commissioner of Police Gary Griffith posted a video of a crowd outside Republic Bank standing cheek by jowl (thanks to Dr. Lucas for reminding of this old expression). Given the no nonsense approach Gary Griffith has taken to doing his job, there is wide speculation he will use his authority to shutdown businesses not observing established protocols designed to protect the health of the public.
The sights and scenes observed around Barbados yesterday although understandable was disappointing. If we accept the government have made errors, how does one explain the behaviour exhibited by a significant segment of the population BEFORE the decision by government to extend lockdown by not practising social distancing? The colossal ignorance of a few church leaders stating the church should be included as an essential service? Should the government have continued in a business as usual mode? Given the population density and the opportunity for aggressive community spread of COVID 19 infections it behoves the authorities to make decisions quickly in order to blunt the rate of infections in Barbados.
The urge at this time to engage in political opportunism must be set aside. The time for a post mortem of COVID 19 will come and a price paid if the electorate is so minded. If there is an opportunity to improve decision making, we have been told the government has an open door policy. Leaders of political parties should avail themselves of the offer and resist the urge to accrue cheap political points by retreating to social and traditional media with destructive positions. In case the memo was not received, COVID 19 is a pandemic responsible for the over 1.1. million people infected and 50 thousand dead across the globe at recent count. Is there good reason Barbados boast of being a highly literate country? The cheek by jowl behaviour exhibited yesterday by Barbadians outside supermarkets has buried that view.
The expectation by government Barbadians would have committed to a behaviour undergirded by self discipline is where it all went wrong. There is a reason why ‘totalitarian’ regimes have been reported to be doing a better job of combatting COVID 19. An assessment of the so called minibus/ZR culture, our propensity to litter, scant regard for road traffic laws, increasing crime etc etc etc supports the blogmaster’s view government was simplistic by expecting some Barbabaians would self quarantine or observe social distancing in the prevailing stressful climate.
Barbadians have to take pause after yesterday to reflect – assume personal responsibility and if after doing so we are unable to apply good sense to our actions then suffer the consequences.
What are the consequences?
All business owners caught serving the public if there is rowdyism outside the doors, must be told to close with immediate effect for a defined period of time until such time order is established.
If the Police observe same rowdyism, order the business to close for a defined period until such time order is establihed.
All business owners must be responsible for securing and managing crowd traffic to ensure compliance, failing to do so a fine and or a cease and desist order issued.
This is no time to allow ignorance to flourish to endanger the lives of the majority of Barbadians. The time for mollycoddling must come to an end now.
COVID CZAR Richard Carter informed the public yesterday that UWI modelling of the trajectory of the virus projects 100s of deaths if behaviours are not arrested NOW.
Hard ears wunna wont hear, own way wunna gine feel!
@ Artax
I actually have family working in a supermarket. They practice hand sanitizing and are wearing mask.
By extension though if we apply your approach then doctors, nurses, police and all others on the frontline would have a similar argument. I am also not proposing unlimited opening, but a restriction of opening hours with a greatly reduced clientele, with personal spacing being ensured by the authorities as opposed to this being left to the public.
Finally just heard the minister say the Barbados defence force has now been called out to assist the police force.
@David
the BLP has pissed me off with this BS planning. at the start (stage 1) it was fine. i was in agreement. made sense. from then it has been missteps and we are not learninf quickly enuff.
how the hell can village shope support the needs of present day bajan and under these circumstances. do we expect them to enforce social distancing? do we expect them to have certain items in stock etc?
man i am beyond frustrated with these idiots and no “there are going to mistakes” is going to placate me. these are idiotic mistakes. in whatever organised iteration open the supermarkets
these bloody idiots dont look like they could organise a piss up in a rum shop
@Greene
Mistakes were made, we get that.
@David
the BLP has pissed me off with this BS planning. at the start (stage 1) it was fine. i was in agreement. made sense. from then it has been missteps and we are not learning quickly enuff.
how the hell can village shops support the needs of present day bajans and under these circumstances? do we expect them to enforce social distancing? do we expect them to have certain items in stock etc?
man i am beyond frustrated with these idiots and no “there are going to be mistakes” is going to placate me. these are idiotic mistakes. in whatever organised iteration open the supermarkets
Interesting comment from the minister that ventilators paid for by Barbados have been seized/blocked by the USA.
just heard the man the police arrested for shooting at Orange Hill was exhibiting COVID symptoms.
Bim we are in a spot of bother.
how about some reassurance from all them big mout talk bird politicians
@Greene
Who wants to hear the mouthings of opportunistic politicians? Many of them can do well to shut up.
#comyuhpoliticians
Surprise, surprise. The US did the same thing to Canada and Germany. What do you think they will do to little Barbados. Ordering stock is not enough. You got it when you get it.
@David
Interesting comment from the minister that ventilators paid for by Barbados have been seized/blocked by the USA
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Are you surprised? See my comment in Grenville’s blog about the US hijacking masks destined for Germany and blocking the shipment of N95 masks to Canada.
@David
you are right there lol
hearing a police station on lockdown / quarantine
must be that one in Holetown or in that area
“By extension though if we apply your approach then doctors, nurses, police and all others on the frontline would have a similar argument.
@ John A
Are you suggesting supermarket employees are categorized as ‘front-line workers?’
If they are, I’ll agree with your comments.
If they ARE NOT, then, it was folly for you to make a comparative reference.
please note minister made A CORRECTION ON THE SEIZED ventilators bought by Rihanna
he said the seized ventilators were from another person
not from the ones Rhianna purchased
No retreat, no surrender. As a military man, the minister must know his military history and the number of generals that led their men to massacre.
Here is the minster trying to rally Bajans and you post this jobby.
Can you step if you have a bajan bone in your rh body?
“just heard the man the police arrested for shooting at Orange Hill was exhibiting COVID symptoms.”
Mr. Greene
It seems as though you treat unsubstantiated ‘hear say,’ as fact, especially if it’s negative and gives energy to ‘grind your political axe.’
with numbers keep rising at alarming rate can the govt stick to the country re-opening deadline
Also i took note that the health ministers statement of not knowing the contact source of three of the infected victims in essence tells that they were not visitors to the island
Now the underlying questions then asked how long were these people mingling amount the populace before becoming ill and how many people they might have infected at home on the job or within the population
and if true are you prepared to apologise
in any case excitable utterances are Res Gestae exceptions to hearsay lol
@ Artax
My point is that the exposure to the covid virus is present in ALL those who are still working. If gas attendants are out there as well as small shop workers, then surely the arguement that supermarket workers are more exposed is not a valid one.
How many people you think we’re exposed in the rush of the shutdown? I
@ Greene
Where did you do your legal theory?
You know who you are.
@Hal
I passed by Uni of Buckingham when the 2 years was being read and heard that lol
i did not learn it by rote lol
Shut the frigging place down 100%
Two week aint going to starve anyone
Make allownces for medication
Hahahahahaha
You are clever, and more so than those who pretend to be.
But, I’ll be a bit careful if I were you. I remember people ‘asking’ about a certain medical procedure. You responded by ‘saying’ you heard from a ‘Cawmere’ friend it was something relating to a ‘tummy tuck,’ which we now know eventually turned out to be inaccurate.
So, the issue of consistency on your part, may arise.
However, if you’re willing to apologize for that blunder, if proven wrong, I’ll offer an apology as well.
Artax
They have an agenda, plain and simple but it will come to nought. Now the fool asking how village shops can support Bajans, yet we surprise that Popular and the Smarts were like federation. The man talking like the supermarkets closed forever. Just makes me SMFH. I know people in London that are waiting 3-4 weeks to get a delivery slot for online grocery shopping. I am sure the lil “village shop” helping because I haven’t read about death by starvation. There are some real clowns in here posing as deep thinkers.🤣
lol david chill
the minister delivers info and leaves gaps wide open for questioning
wait being a bajan now requires one pass a test of patriotism wait bosey uh seem to be using a patriotic AK47 to shoot down bajans from their constitutional right to free speech
Sick of some of you claiming to be Bajans. Get on Facebook and post every shit negative about the island, every voice note true or not. As stated this morning go and check what is happening in your neck of the woods.
@Artax,
best to believe everything i post whether tongue in cheek or not is inaccurate.
i would not hold that against you.
do i sound like i have an ego to you?
so have at it. knock yourself out so to speak
“ENFORCED LOCK DOWN OF SICK PEOPLE IS QUARANTINE … ENFORCED LOCK DOWN OF HEALTHY PEOPLE IS IMPRISONMENT”
An Exert From The Blog Masters Article…“The expectation by government Barbadians would have committed to a behaviour undergirded by self discipline is where it all went wrong. There is a reason why ‘totalitarian’ regimes have been reported to be doing a better job of combatting COVID 19. An assessment of the so called minibus/ZR culture, our propensity to litter, scant regard for road traffic laws, increasing crime etc etc etc supports the blogmaster’s view government was simplistic by expecting some Barbabaians would self quarantine or observe social distancing in the prevailing stressful climate.
Freedom Agrees with everything you have said especially the part where you have said, “There is a reason why ‘totalitarian’ regimes have been reported to be doing a better job of combatting COVID 19.”
Such as Locking their Citizens in their homes and Welding Shut the Doors, returning weeks later to remove the bodies, whither they have died by the Virus or by Starvation. But like all people who believe that Totalitarian Regimes are wonderful, also believe everything they hear from them, in terms the Total number of people that died. And the amount of Doctors that have raised Alarms have (DISAPPEARED). Yet it’s over Eleven Million Cell Phones in China that have gone Dark. So Yes Mr. Blog Master you would believe the Propaganda so you would believe that they are better @ Handling Covid-19. And that is why you welcome the Communist with open arms. Simply put You like All Totalitarians DO NOT TRUST PEOPLE TO MAKE THEIR OWN CHOICES, SO LIKE A TYPICAL ELITIST MIND-SET, PEOPLES FREEDOM MUST BE TAKEN AWAY…
That is Why you keep Deleting Freedoms Informative Post…You want to Keep Bajans Under Control, and in the Dark… You Support the Very same ones who caused this Catastrophe!
INTERESTING OBSERVATION …WATCH COVID-19 PART 1
In April 2018 Wuhan was appointed by the Chinese Government to become the State of the Art 5G City and with the Usual Chinese Diligence 30.000 Macro Stations and 27.000 Micro Stations were Placed- 2019. 5G was going to Contribute to the Super-Fast Wireless Communication. 2019 was the year of the Chinese Experiment when everything had to be up and running…
The govt of Barbados is incompetent.
Why was patient X allowed to travel to the UK & return to Barbados during the middle of a pandemic? I am sure the local authorities were aware that Europe was the epicenter for the virus in March 2020.
Stop all travel ,local ,regional & international.
I am asking all Barbadian in the UK / USA /Canada / Caribbean to stay where you are & don’t come home.
@ Hal April 5, 2020 11:52 AM
“New innovation could help solve ventilator shortage”
Sky News/tv have a you Tube video for the manufacture of simple ventilator. oxford University came up wit the design. It isn’t fancy but it works. The design is going to be made available to all. Uses standard equipment that any good machine have. Basically consist of a bellows. Sony wants to mass produce it. I would suggest that those pompous asses at UWI try to manufacture some
You can check it out by typing the caption up above in You Tube search engine.
https://youtu.be/6yqTo_7Tn4g
@Robert Lucas
do you mean the uni should build or design? is the uni equipped for building such things? wont the polytechnic be better or some other bigger facility? it is a v good idea tho.
My friend, I’ve mentioned to you before, I respect and agree with many of your views on various issues, because in addition to your knowledge and experience, you think rationally and reasonably. Miller even referred to me as your ‘side kick.’
However, when it comes to politics, in my opinion, you can become ‘irrationally biased,’ and that’s where I part company with you.
Whether or not your comments on that particular topic is ‘tongue in cheek,’ accurate or inaccurate, or ‘you change course in mid air, I either dismiss them or occasionally poke some fun at you.
Listened to the minister of health and let me be the first to say he handled himself well!
What I liked was he did not try to hog the conversation, but handed off questions to those most able to answer them, which was refreshing after watching the likes of media hogs like Trump. He also maintained a stable tone through his speeches and did not show any signs of panic or lost of control.
Without a doubt his military training helped in all of this and as a result I left feeling comfortable with the information given. At no time was a question side stepped by the panel, or did they mis-speak and have to corrected.
Folks I give you all an A+ for delivery and substance. If they open back the supermarkets put the ministry of health in charge I beg wunna! I also congratulate those involved in the decision to call out the defence force to assist the police.
@David, during the Minister’s sterling attempt to “rally Bajans” his colleague the CMO (ag, I presume) said in response to a query that there is no evidence of ‘community spread. Did I hear that correctly? How can that be?
He also said that the plans for the old naval base in St. Lucy are progressing well with over 150 total beds as I recall ready to be turned over …so all very impressive.
As @Mari alluded to (sometimes can be quite asture) neither he nor the CMO could properly identify any purposeful geotag tracing on several of those now positive leading the Colonel I presume to say that we cant focus on the number of positives currently because there will be ongoing increases soon enough!
But what puzzled me was the remark (again did I hear this accurately) that one of the patients currently intubated but doing fairly well is now NEGATIVE of the virus!
Now, I accept that’s quite possible but what catches my attention is this: if (God forbid) this patient relapsed to a worst condition and died… would he/she still be counted as a covid19 death…@John in one of solliloquys touched on this point of underlying cause of death and COVID !
What it means is that all the reported cases were found to be as a result of the indexed case.
Sick of some of you claiming to be Bajans. Get on Facebook and post every shit negative about the island, every voice note true or not. As stated this morning go and check what is happening in your neck of the woods.
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So because others have pointed out the incompetency of the Government in shutting down the Supermarkets which has only taken place in Barbados for a 2 week curfew for a situation which will be around for months more and will not disappear overnight..
Not being transparent including disclosing which hotels has had people with the virus so public can make informed decisions to check-in or avoid.
The fact that the Borders should have been closed off weeks ago preventing many infected people from bringing the virus back whether Bajan or visitor ALL to protect the merchants and the $$$.
Sorry to say.
You are the worst kind of Bajan there is.
Dishonest to the bone.
@ Artax April 5, 2020 12:04 PM
“…“just heard the man the police arrested for shooting at Orange Hill was exhibiting COVID symptoms.”
Mr. Greene
It seems as though you treat unsubstantiated ‘hear say,’ as fact, especially if it’s negative and gives energy to ‘grind your political axe.’…”
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Glad to see you are noting, ex post facto, that the more the Green(e) monkey fella climb the political tree the more he is showing his ‘ dirty yellow’ partisan tail.
And this is the man with his ‘perfect’ legal mind who was advising you.
Don’t let the Green(e) DLP propaganda monkey dance on your back by playing the fool while looking for an escape clause.
Hiding inside his legal entrapment of ‘Res Gestae’ is that teaspoon of common sense of warning that: “Many a true word hath been spoken in jest.”
@Dee Word
The recording is available, have a listen. The recall is that he said there is no evidence so far of community spread which does not mean it has not occurred.
@David,
correct David. community spread may take some time to present its ugly head, if it does. i hope not. so far the number of confirmed is 52 if we get 150 and a few deaths we should count our lucky stars. we should hope for the best and plan for the worst (community spread)
From what the CMO reporter several of the indexed will be released soon.
I have in the last half hour tuned in to Brass Tacks. Did I understand Mr. Best to say they have not been contact tracing? Did I also understand him to say that they only test people who go to the hospital in serious conditions? Has Mr. Best not heard of asymptomatics? Cheese on bread.
@ Mariposa
lol david chill
the minister delivers info and leaves gaps wide open for questioning
wait being a bajan now requires one pass a test of patriotism wait bosey uh seem to be using a patriotic AK47 to shoot down bajans from their constitutional right to free speech(Quote)
This is a very good observation. At first I used to think his appalling foulmouthed hysteria was funny and a cover for ignorance; I do not think so now. Anyone (or some people) who disagree with him, especially on his silly Bajan nationalism, he just goes hysterical.
There is a long history about this kind of behaviour, that is why I asked sometime ago if he is in the pay of the BLP government, or is a foreigner pretending to be more Bajan than Bajans. Look at all those who boast about how Bajan they are and you see a foreigner lurking in the background.
Not just Barbados Look at Trump, Boris Johnson, Sarkozy, Julia Gillard, Ursula von der Leyen, and of course we had David Thompson, the list is endless. In the UK, Asians are more British than the British. Look at some Bajans with foreign passports.
There is a certain psychology. They have to prove a point. I remember hooking up with a Barbadian aspiring politician on Facebook sometime ago and asked if he was related to a certain well-known Caribbean family. He told me yes and that he would come back to me and ran off. I asked because I knew some of his relatives.
Sometime ago I also had to remind a friend of mine that a prominent person we both knew was a St Lucian, he was surprised. I remembered because when he first came to Barbados he was at St Giles with me. There are others.
Not just foreigners, but blood relatives and relations through marriage. Barbados is a small place and people intermix. Social geography is very important.
@David, what is an “indexed case.”? Indexed to what?
I raised the question of the clarification of community spread because on its face the remarks seems incompatible with reality.
The CMO spoke of “imported cases”. In simple terms a “community spread” patient is distanced from that in so far as you are NOT associating it directly to any imported positive as supposedly you can’t directly trace the source of the infection.
Are our authorities saying that currently ALL cases are travellers into Bim…those importeds?
In my view that’s just not real. If you aren’t doing careful geo-tagging tracing then said traveller could have infected Peter who asymptomatically infected Joan who then infected me…and you wouldn’t know THATS one form of community spread.
Alas, this all comes back to ….. ability to do lots of testing and tracing.
@Greene, yes we can count our lucky stars if we only have a few deaths but as sure as we went from 17 to 34 to 54 it can be shouted from Mt Hillaby that we will eventually mark 150 officially…. because right NOW undoubtedly we are unofficially ALREADY well beyond that!
That’s just the reality of this contagion everywhere , so how or why is Bim going to be different!
At the point where things stop making sense, it is time to take a break
See you all later.
Hopefully I will be able to decipher the above when I return.
@Dee Word
The indexed is the case logged when found to be covid positive. Then through contact tracing the other cases were found to be linked to said case. It means all the 52 cases are linked to the indexed cases.
Ok, taken re your 2:54PM. I was NOT aware the authorities had classified and affirmed all cases back to known imported infections.
Impressive.
Mr. Bostic handling himself well is a clear indication that the noises from those voices asking for Transparency and honesty on this issue has been drilled into govt ministers head
Lets see how far this new way of presenting info last.
Now left are the blp “patriotic”yardfowls lol to get the message of honesty and transparency
There mission seems to be one of helping govt send barbadians to slaughter like sheep
Six people have already fully recovered, which is far more than 10 percent of those infected. Only one dead person.
There is no reason to panic. We can trust our government. The Corona virus seems no more dangerous than Corona beer.
Never mind David he seems to have picked up from where ac left off
Poor soul it has gotten so bad with him that his utterances are reminders of a tin horn dictator
Every now and then he tries to turn the tables over when he cant get his way
On those occasions he is wearing his tin foil hat.
David i got u on my radar pics and all
Ha.ha.ha
Tron
There is no reason to panic. We can trust our government. The Corona virus seems no more dangerous than Corona beer
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See what i mean
But then again u more dangerous than Corona
Your lips need to be closed with a heavy duty locked zipper
David
In their neck of the woods there is nothing but shortages, chaotic policies, contradiction, fast shifts and changes and escalating numbers and deaths; but they quiet like mice because they can’t influence public opinion. Them irrelevant!! But want to jump on BU and purport to be experts in public health, with all sort of pissery. An incompetent government they cry, but a facility is ready with more beds than cases; already masks, gowns and gloves have been received from China and Cuban support from tomorrow. In one country (where the purveyor of the notion that Bdos is a failed state lives) normal hospitals have been turning away all non-Covid cases even emergencies and now oxygen is being rationed. Egofowlism is a ting eh!
@Tron
Wily forecasts within the next 8 Days(April 13th) Barbados will have 200+ infected by Virus, typically COVID 19 infection rate doubles every 4 days in the initial stages, in two weeks this will translate to numbers around 800.
I am a patriotic Bajan that loves this country.
Its about calling a spade a spade.
So far the Govt’s handling of this crisis has been woefully inadequate.
Kudos to Mr Bostic in these troubled times.
Enuff
Why dont u speak about “in your neck of the woods”
Evertime people speak with open crticism of govt the foot soldiers counter with silly child like utterances lol
Why this ..why u dont .a bunch of ridiculous sounding words
Here is a WHY for Wunna why dont u all tell Mia the truth after a week of increase rate if victims and now to hear bostic state that govt has opened other quarantine centres
The time is past due that she close the airport on closing those people living in hot spots would remain where there are and less possibility for the virus to leave its foot print on the soil of barbados
One cannot keep using the excuse that barbadians cannot be shut out… if the airport is closed Barbadians would not come here
There are not foolish to leave a place and come to where the airport is closed
However if instances arise finding bajans stranded and no place to go like the 35 they have an absolute right of entry
So this Psychological mind game of playing the national card is grounded in economics to protect the tourism industry
@Greene said, how the hell can village shop support the needs of present day bajan and under these circumstances.
Look at that statement. That says so much, not sure that Greene intended all of the implications.
Some would say that the answer is in the question.
Enuff well said you can imagine Austin, Baje ,Waru,Dame or Dishonest on a blog in England or Canada piss parading over there?There are nobodies over there but believe they are medical experts here by cutting and pasting comments everyday.The vovernment here is doing it,s best with advice from trained doctors which they the armchair experts are not.This is why i told them this is some sillu political game to them where they hope to score cheap political points.Most of them care little about Barbados or bajans but feel they are superior to us but newsflash they are not.As i stated elsewhere i do not care about any of thes overseas bajan armchair expert bloggers.
Let me repeat what I have stated elsewhere on the Blog. The curfew has to rigorously enforced. Once this is done, there is no need for contact tracing. I will explain. Those who manifest symptoms are easily managed. It is person Z who comes into contact with a person ( asymptomatic or beginning to show signs) and is unaware of the fact, who poses the immediate threat. By having the curfew and rigidly enforcing it, means that person Z is localized to a fixed area. There will be more than one person who qualifies for the nomenclature Z. Since the curfew is rigidly enforced when the Zs become ill and use the hot line, hot spots are known. There will be a number of these hot spots. There should be isolated and all persons in the vicinity of the Z’ screened and placed into mandatory quarantine. No crap about voluntary quarantine. For this method to work, it means that very tough enforcement it needed. None of this crap about human rights and individual liberty. Human rights and so on can be dealt with after the situation is under control.
@Dr. Lucas
Liking your comment.
@David
which part? becos either deliberate or inadvertently Lucas has criticised some of the decisions this govt has made with regard to the handling of this crisis and hasnt said anything that hasnt been tabled before but he lives in Bim so he gets a pass, dont you know?
@Greene
The idea about exhausting all options to enforce social distancing.
TODAY I TOOK MY CLOTHES TO THE LAUNDROMAT TO BE WASHED AND FOLDED BY ONE OF ITS WORKERS AND TO COLLECT 4 HRS LATER.
THEY WORE A MASK AND LATEX GLOVES.
THEN DROVE MY CAR TO PETROL STATION TO FILL-UP WITH CHEAPLY PRICED GASOLINE FALLEN DRAMATICALLY IN LAST 10 DAYS.
ON THE WAY BACK HOME I STOPPED IN THE SUPERMARKET TO PICK UP FOOD.
NO LINES AND BUSINESS AS USUAL WITH SOCIAL DISTANCING.
THAT IS HOW IS DONE IN THE DEVELOPED WORLD.
@Lorenzo
Enuff well said you can imagine Austin, Baje ,Waru,Dame or Dishonest on a blog in England or Canada piss parading over there?
Yuh eyes pass me. guh long, yuh BLP bantam chicken.
Enuff April 5, 2020 3:20 PM
David
In their neck of the woods there is nothing but shortages, chaotic policies, contradiction, fast shifts and changes and escalating numbers and deaths; but they quiet like mice because they can’t influence public opinion. Them irrelevant!!
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SSSSSSSHHHHHHH! That is a secret! We are supposed to believe that they left here to get away from us the stupid ones and are now living among the smart white people where they live lives that elevate them above us. But they let it slip that they are worried the black people (meaning them) will be put at the end of the queue and left to die.
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As my brother (who is NOT a BLP supporter) said to me just this morning, “They are trying their best. They have made a mistake but ……”
From what I can see they are doing better than Boris and Trump. What buffoons!
Just listened to an interview with a doctor in a New York hospital. She is of the view it will be months to wrestle the virus under some control based on what she is seeing. The profile of incoming now include younger people.
Let me repeat what I have stated elsewhere on the Blog. The curfew has to rigorously enforced. Once this is done, there is no need for contact tracing. I will explain. Those who manifest symptoms are easily managed. It is person Z who comes into contact with a person ( asymptomatic or beginning to show signs) and is unaware of the fact, who poses the immediate threat. By having the curfew and rigidly enforcing it, means that person Z is localized to a fixed area. There will be more than one person who qualifies for the nomenclature Z. Since the curfew is rigidly enforced when the Zs become ill and use the hot line, hot spots are known. There will be a number of these hot spots. There should be isolated and all persons in the vicinity of the Z’ screened and placed into mandatory quarantine. No crap about voluntary quarantine. For this method to work, it means that very tough enforcement it needed. None of this crap about human rights and individual liberty. Human rights and so on can be dealt with after the situation is under control.
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IF THE CURFEW WAS AT LEAST 30 DAYS – 60 DAYS LOCKDOWN THIS WOULD MAKE SENSE.
TWO WEEKS IS NOT ENOUGH AS THE VIRUS CAN SHOW AT DIFFERENT PERIODS IN INDIVIDUALS AND MANY ASYMPTOMATIC NOW UNKNOWN WILL SHOW POSITIVE TESTING AFTER THE 2 WEEK LOCKDOWN IS OVER.
SECONDLY IT IS PROVEN THAT SOME WHO ARE POSITIVE AND HEAL LATER WILL BECOME REINFECTED, THIS HAS HAPPENED IN SOME FIRST CASES IN WUHAN CHINA AND THIS WILL BE AFTER THE 2 WEEK LOCKDOWN.
2 WEEKS IS TEMPORARY A BAND-AID AT THE MOMENT BASED ON WHAT HAS PROVEN REALITY WISE WITH THE CORONA VIRUS.
At this time, everyone is a potential carrier and should remain in voluntary isolation in their homes….including supermarket workers. only the medical and law enforcement officers should be allowed out with limited time for farm labour.
Total shut down then reopen slowly.
WUHAN CHINA HAS BEEN IN LOCKDOWN FOR AT LEAST 90 DAYS (3 MONTHS) NOT 2 WEEKS
Coronavirus: Wuhan to ease lockdown as world battles pandemic
The lockdown in Wuhan, the Chinese city where the global coronavirus outbreak began, will be partially lifted on 8 April, officials say.
Travel restrictions in the rest of Hubei province, where Wuhan is located, will be lifted from midnight on Tuesday – for residents who are healthy.
A single new case of the virus was reported in Wuhan on Tuesday following almost a week of no reported new cases.
Countries around the world have gone into lockdown or imposed severe curbs.
Wuhan has been shut off from the rest of the world since the middle of January. But officials now say anyone who has a “green” code on a widely used smartphone health app will be allowed to leave the city from 8 April.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-52016139
That is how it is done IN SOME PARTS OF THE DEVELOPED WORLD. There was no problem up my side when I went out. There were no face masks but there were partitions between the customer and the cashier. There were lines painted six feet apart both inside and outside of the supermarket all around the building. The cashiers were provided with disinfectant and they were constantly cleaning. There was a guard at the door spraying customers hands with alcohol upon entry. If there were no masks it was because we don’t make them here, they are in short supply. Now we are being told that homemade masks offer some chance of protection from spreading the virus it I guess some people will be motivated to make their own. BUT,,,when I went out earlier in the week there was ORDER.
So that’s how it was done in my part of the developing world until some panicked people caused Peter to pay for Paul.
We shall see the final score when the results are tallied. I am still placing my money here because you got some jackass governors there and a jackass president. If Mia is a bigger jackass than any of them I will eat not only my hat but my whole outfit!
@ Greene April 5, 2020 4:43 PM
I have admitted that I have found somethings amiss. I have also said that now is not the time for recriminations. That all should get behind the authorities and wish them well. I was not in agreement with open border ,but as I said in one of the Blogs I understood the government’s position trying to grab foreign exchange. I have said elsewhere that what has happened has happened and it makes no sense to harp on the errors I have pointed out that since the borders were not closed government had two choices: test every person on the island. I pointed out given the world situation, government is unlikely to get the number of test kits .In such a case it must institute a curfew and rigidly enforced it: in doing so, hot spots are identified. I would suggest you re-read what I said. I am a scientist and I do not take dogmatic positions on scientific topics. For example when I first wrote about viral particles being spread by droplets alone. I said I was uneasy with that explanation. I wondered how come bacteria were bigger than viruses and could be spread by aerosols ,why the same did not happen for viruses. Again I suggest you re-read what I said.
Mari
when all these tourist get here where they staying and what they doing? Christ man even the beaches closed. bars closed, restaurants closed and the bush hill girls closed. what so special about Barbados that someone would want to vacation at a time like this?
@ Wily Coyote April 5, 2020 3:46 PM
As you know, we both agree on the economic fate of the naive masses. However, I have a completely different opinion about the medical future, especially the success of government action in the Corona crisis.
So far in the Caribbean, the virus has shown only linear, not exponential growth. These numbers do not lie. It therefore appears that the virus, like any other cold, is stopped by the warm and humid climate.
God is a Bajan. Stay calm. Relax. Follow the instructions of our leader.
@ Baje April 5, 2020 4:57 PM
Elsewhere on the Blog, I said that a twenty-eight day curfew was needed. I explain my reasoning as follows: there would be different viral incubation times for different individuals. Twenty-eight days would appear to be time for all individuals to show manifestations of the infection.
Robert Lucas,
There will probably be an extension.
@ Enuff April 5, 2020 3:20 PM
We must not panic over the massacres in NYC and London. Many bloggers on BU rush against the Barbadian government, even though they themselves sit in front of computers in NYC or London. Bodies are piling up outside their doors. Medical care has collapsed. Their leaders are clowns and populists. Maybe they will be all dead soon. Who knows, with the poor medical care in these shit holes.
We must finally free ourselves from the white man’s narrative that blacks are inferior, that they always play the fool and whites are smart and successful. The Corona game is the exact opposite. Be proud of our country, our nation, our island, our culture and our government.
@ robert lucas April 5, 2020 5:30 PM
I completely agree with you that we need a lockdown as extensive as possible for one month.
Especially since the virus is spreading at a slowed-down speed, the chances are very good that we can eradicate it on the island within a month. Besides, the tourists are all gone. So a lockdown will only cause a small economic damage.
Donna April 5, 2020 5:36 PM
They did leave the possibility of an extension. Having an extension is going to be hard on folks Do it one time and get it over.
john2April 5, 2020 5:26 PM
Mari
when all these tourist get here where they staying and what they doing? Christ man even the beaches closed. bars closed, restaurants closed and the bush hill girls closed. what so special about Barbados that someone would want to vacation at a time like this?
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Wily CoyoteApril 5, 2020 3:46 PM
@Tron
Wily forecasts within the next 8 Days(April 13th) Barbados will have 200+ infected by Virus, typically COVID 19 infection rate doubles every 4 days in the initial stages, in two weeks this will translate to numbers around 800
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And if that possibility occurs the blame would fall on Mia and playing the nationality card would not help her
Reason being that included in those numbers are visitors who help to increase the high risk
Mariposa,
These figures are made up out of thin air. I believe only the statements of our government.
If the savages from the DLP were still in government, all the ministers would have long since defected to Canada and Florida. What is Donville Inniss doing? Did he die because of Corona or is he still wearing his shackles?
all them tourist in your head just like my pm is in it.
MARI
wha mia do you that you so much against her that you would spread lies lies to try to try to turn people agains her? she bite you? or refused you and broke you heart.
No tourist coming to Barbados now drop it.
john2April 5, 2020 6:32 PM
MARI
wha mia do you that you so much against her that you would spread lies lies to try to try to turn people agains her? she bite you? or refused you and broke you heart.
No tourist coming to Barbados now drop it.
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So why the airport open
And why a schedule for planes to arrive and dept
Why crticism of Mia policies means hating Mia
I bet she could slam dominoes play cards
Drink hard liquor and act like one yuh we
I think she must have qualities that anyone would like.
So this nonsense about hating Mia speaks of the way u think
LIAT is doing cargo runs, also charters to take home people arranged by home countries.
Other charters are arranged to fly out non residents. For example, ROSS students flew out on charters yesterday.
only human traffic/ tourist does come in at the airport?
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BARBADOS
before I forget
We are going through a health crisis now but don’t forget the hurricane season is a couple months away.
One forecast is for a more active hurricane season with a few more MAJOR storms than usual
BE PREPARED !
So, because the airport is opened and a schedule indicating aircraft departures and arrivals, means tourists are coming into Barbados by droves to spread and infect Barbadians with COVID-19?
For the past few days you’ve been on BU spewing this nonsense.
Several countries have closed their borders and are on ‘lock-down,’ while airlines have either closed operations or significantly reduced their flights.
Barbados is also on ‘lock-down,’ which has seen the obvious closure of several businesses, including those from the hospitality, wholesale and retail sectors.
Why would anyone ‘in their right mind,’ leave their country to travel to another country that has recorded cases of COVID-19 and is on ‘lock-down’ as a result?
Where are these tourists coming from, where are they staying and what do they intend to do, other than spend 14 days in quarantine?
Can we conclude she has demonstrated a classic example of the ‘Bajan condition’ and an inability to debate rationally as a result of learning by rote?
“I would suggest that those pompous asses at UWI try to manufacture some.”
everyone is creating or designing something, can someone tell me what is being created in Barbados besides laws…
“An incompetent government they cry, but a facility is ready with more beds than cases; ”
Ya can thank US for the one at Defense Force and stop pretending that yall are the ones who did that…the politics will ruin everything, just be glad people are donating so you will not be overwhelmed.
ArtaxApril 5, 2020 7:51 PM
So, because the airport is opened and a schedule indicating aircraft departures and arrivals, means tourists are coming into Barbados by droves to spread and infect Barbadians with COVID-19?
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Where did i say tourist coming by droves
It only takes one person to have a chain reaction of infected people
Close the airport
Mari
don’t you think that if tourist were coming into the island as you keep claiming that the night watchman or other spokesperson/ potential / former mp of the demorats losers party would have been all over the place crying fowl??
its only you that got this thing trapped in you pea brain.
your continuous braying and giving false info will not help you party. I will come over just like the mia lawyer license
Instead of on the blog gushing a bunch of nonsense, the fowls should be telling the government that the people of St. John and other parishes are SUFFERING FOR WATER…..pure incompetence….like if they did not know….they should have their water back PERMANENTLY and not just for a few days a week or not at all as has been happening for far too long….boast about that..
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True.
DavidApril 5, 2020 6:49 PM
LIAT is doing cargo runs, also charters to take home people arranged by home countries.
Other charters are arranged to fly out non residents. For example, ROSS students flew out on charters yesterday
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Virgin is flying
American is bringing people out of Mia
There are private planes coming
Two saturdays ago i know of someone who came in on business
Also why open more quarantine centres no one is coming in
Nonsense!
DavidApril 5, 2020 8:30 PM
Nonsense!
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I telling what i know for a fact and u posting nonsense
Now i know for sure u need to have yuh head exam
Furthermore govt said that anyone coming must be quarantined
Now why would govt make that statement of recent if no one is coming
Mari
a week or two ago someone told you that some airlines are flying ghost planes.
go on the airlines web site and try to by a ticket from those destinations to Barbados and see what you get.
You cant buy a ticket. so either the planes are empty or they coming down real full as you said. we all know which one id true. we all except you of course
why open more quartine centers
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so that when the out braek comes people like you cannot say they weren’t prepared .
My friend, I NEVER mentioned you ‘said’ anything about ‘droves.’ That’s my emphasis.
RE: “Also why open more quarantine centres no one is coming in?”
You have descended in the realm of stupidity by asking that silly question.
Thine ignorance is boundless.
ArtaxApril 5, 2020 8:53 PM
My friend, I NEVER mentioned you ‘said’ anything about ‘droves.’ That’s my emphasis.
RE: “Also why open more quarantine centres no one is coming in?”
You have descended in the realm of stupidity by asking that silly question.
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So silly
Your ignorance is mind boggling
mari
Cubans doctors coming. how you want them to get here? swim?
https://youtu.be/TcgL25Wpii4
WARU
You’re still an idiot! The defence force always had a field hospital. Whether the US helped in outfitting it to meet the needs of COVID patients is irrelevant, the fact is that the government was proactive enough to have it in place. Bdos was also ready to test too. Weren’t you stocking up on supplies even before WHO confirmed it was transmitted via human to human, oh clairvoyant one? Then again Salemites are known for seances around the fire. Too many clowns does cause the tent to collapse and spoil the circus show.🤣🤣🤣
From since last month, you have been spewing this nonsense.
You asked: “Also why OPEN MORE quarantine centres (if) NO ONE is COMING IN?”
You are essentially suggesting (in Bajan parlance) “nuff people got to be coming in, dat duh opening more centres.”
Nuff people: a large number of people.
Droves: a large number of people.
My point remains, by asking that silly question, you have descended into the realm of ignorance.
Dun wid you and dat.
@ Mariposa April 5, 2020 8:28 PM
We already had the biggest plague on the island from 2008 to 2018, this plague is very fat, has a washy voice, a sluggish gait, a flat forehead like a Neanderthal, no manners and does not even know decimal places.
robert lucas
April 5, 2020 5:30 PM
@ Baje April 5, 2020 4:57 PM
Elsewhere on the Blog, I said that a twenty-eight day curfew was needed.
I think that longer is needed. If there is community spread, which is likely, despite being unreported so far, when you add the domino effect of that to a group, some will only be coming down with symptoms near the end of the 28 days.
So, two months is probably a more appropriate time frame. This can only work is people adhere to isolation and social distancing principles. Genuinely adhere, not a person going for a little visit somewhere.
“Whether the US helped in outfitting it to meet the needs of COVID patients is irrelevant, the fact is that the government was proactive enough to have it in place. Bdos was also ready to test too. ”
ya should be glad US helped ya with that too….or yall would still be boasting about tourists numbers while hiding the body bags.
@Artax,
quote] “On Saturday 4th April, 2020, there was a situation where a suspect in custody at the station had exhibited symptoms, that given the current pandemic situation, it became necessary to have a medical examination by members of the COVID-19 medical team. As a precautionary measure, all police personnel who had come into contact with this individual whilst in custody remained self-isolated at the station. The results subsequently came back negative for COVID-19. Both the suspect and all police personnel were cleared. At no point during this ordeal was a decision made to close the station,” the statement said. [unquote
https://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/244832/inniss-police-stations
@ Greene
Okay, I heard that on last night’s CBC TV8 News.
So, I’ll ‘say’ you won 1 and loss 2.
But, I’ll remind you “best to believe everything i post whether tongue in cheek or not is inaccurate. i would not hold that against you.”
@Artax
i will indicate when i am serious and when i am tongue in cheek, if it is not implicit in the topic or tone and composition of the words used.
you are forgiven this time. go and sin no more lol
Was this listening to David Ellis and people have been calling in saying guys still liming on the all around like no laws been passed. Why are we surprised?
Motorcycles on one wheel with no insurance out every Sunday, ZRs stopping where they want and going through red lights like they are green etc. We have laws that have been suffering from poor enforcement for years why are we surprised the same approach will be used by many for the Curfew?
My question is what will the authorities do about enforcing the laws seeing that some would argue this could be a life and death issue?
Finally what are we doing about food supply from the supermarkets seeing that many of the small shops are now sold out?
@John A
This is why the government will have to go totalitarian because we do not have the time to wait on the deviants.
@John A
From reports the government is discussing with the supermarkets. One suspect a decision will not be made before Good Friday.