Bajans Jettison Social Distancing for Cheek by Jowl

One of the saddest days in the few decades this blogmaster has lived in Barbados was yesterday. For close to five months Barbadians from the village to the heights have viewed on smart TVs and cellphone screens the havoc being wreaked on developed countries. Italy, UK, Canada, France, Japan and the USA are listed as G7 countries with significantly greater resources than Barbados. Despite a superior economic status the healthcare and capacity to apply meaningful logistics by these countries continue to be challenged by COVID 19.

On a related note the blogmaster followed a robust conversation making the rounds in Trinidad this week where Commissioner of Police Gary Griffith posted a video of a crowd outside Republic Bank standing cheek by jowl (thanks to Dr. Lucas for reminding of this old expression).  Given the no nonsense approach Gary Griffith has taken to doing his job, there is wide speculation he will use his authority to shutdown businesses not observing established protocols designed to protect the health of the public.

The sights and scenes observed around Barbados yesterday although understandable was disappointing. If we accept the government have made errors, how does one explain the behaviour exhibited by a significant segment of the population BEFORE the decision by government to extend lockdown by not practising social distancing? The colossal ignorance of  a few church leaders stating the church should be included as an essential service? Should the government have continued in a business as usual mode? Given the population density and the opportunity for aggressive community spread of COVID 19 infections it behoves the authorities to make decisions quickly in order to blunt the rate of infections in Barbados.

The urge at this time to engage in political opportunism must be set aside. The time for a post mortem of COVID 19 will come and a price paid if the electorate is so minded. If there is an opportunity to improve decision making, we have been told the government has an open door policy. Leaders of political parties should avail themselves of the offer and resist the urge to accrue cheap political points by retreating to social and traditional media with destructive positions. In case the memo was not received, COVID 19 is a pandemic responsible for the over 1.1. million people infected and 50 thousand dead across the globe at recent count. Is there good reason Barbados boast of being a highly literate country? The cheek by jowl behaviour exhibited yesterday by Barbadians outside supermarkets  has buried that view.

The expectation by government Barbadians would have committed to a behaviour undergirded by self discipline is where it all went wrong. There is a reason why ‘totalitarian’ regimes have been reported to be doing a better job of combatting COVID 19. An assessment of the so called minibus/ZR culture, our propensity to litter, scant regard for road traffic laws, increasing crime etc etc etc supports the blogmaster’s view government was simplistic by expecting some Barbabaians would self quarantine or observe social distancing in the prevailing stressful climate.

Barbadians have to take pause after yesterday to reflect –  assume personal responsibility and if after doing so we are unable to apply good sense to our actions then suffer the consequences.

What are the consequences?

All business owners caught serving the public if there is rowdyism outside the doors, must be told to close with immediate effect for a defined period of time until such time order is established.

If the Police observe same rowdyism, order the business to close for a defined period until such time order is establihed.

All business owners must be responsible for securing and managing crowd traffic to ensure compliance, failing to do so a fine and or a cease and desist order issued.

This is no time to allow ignorance to flourish to endanger the lives of the majority of Barbadians. The time for mollycoddling must come to an end now.

COVID CZAR Richard Carter informed the public yesterday that UWI modelling of the trajectory of the virus projects 100s of deaths if behaviours are not arrested NOW.

Hard ears wunna wont hear, own way wunna gine feel!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  • Herd MENTALITY is not limited to BARBADOS, gun sales at record levels in USA & CANADA lately, same issue. Everyone is beginning to become aware and scared. In an island that cannot feed itself, has limited water, no resources etc. FEAR comes to the forefront. Everyone on the lookout for self and family. Theses are the seeds for riots, revolutions, civil war etc., the question is how many days months will elapse before this materializes.

    Food for thought.

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  • Vincent Codrington

    @ David Bu

    Good analysis and well stated. However, I think you have put an unbearable burthen on the Supermarkets to regulate the agreed social distance in a queue that stretches far beyond their properties. The police and defence forces need to give assistance..

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  • PoorPeacefulandPolite

    Access to supermarkets and grocers during the curfew can be much more orderly if customers were allocated “shopping slots” based on the initial letter of the surnames shown on their ID cards – as is done in Venezuela, a country with long experience in rationing food. Surnames commencing with letters A through C would, for instance have Monday mornings from 7a.m. to 11 a.m.; surnames beginning with letters D to F inclusive would have the four hours from 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. to shop; and, surnames G,H,I, would get the run of the shop from 3 p.m. to 7.00 p.m. . . . . next day, Tuesday would have shopping hours allocated to other surnames commencing with the next three letters in the alphabet and so on. Then also the same for Wednesday. Assuming a six-day week, the arrangement will offer the A, B, and C’s a second slot on Thursday (if they need it) , the second cycle of slots ending Saturday evening This will avoid much of the insecurity and consequent bunching. We might be in this for longer than two weeks – in fact, a second year of caution is predicted. We’ll need to have systems in place.

    Playing with maths and the rather inflated assumption of the Barbados Economic Society that we have 150,000 shopping events every week in 15 food outlets each therefore serving an average of 10,000 shoppers per week, and they are open 12 hours each day for a six-day week ( =72 shopping hours), there will be an average of 138 persons streaming through each marketplace each hour. With four checkout counters 35 customers could be served every hour. More consevative weekly shopping events will throw thw number back to under 25.

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  • This article from respected source is some verification to my initial comment.

    https://www.gcsp.ch/global-insight/five-reasons-why-covid-19-crisis-related-arms-control

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  • @Vincent

    Fair enough, the business order should be held accountable for crowd control on their compound. The police and deputized security personnel by government would be responsible for individuals outside the court compound.

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  • learned three things from Mia;s speech, she seems to have come through the operation okay, she still is in charge, and she lives beside a race track.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    The uptick in gun purchases has been an interesting side show on this virus that is in fact a really big indicator of problems ahead…when (if) the first positive hits Dodds what are the plans !

    Will remand folks on minor non-violent charges be released …or are they safer there than back home…so too about other non violent offenders?

    The Bajans with guns are lots of gangsters … do the police have the bandwidth or is it even practical for them to do some surge offensives now?

    The months ahead will have some serious financial woes for several Bajans…uncouth and unmannerly folks so inflamed could cause big issues…. those UWI brainiacs need to create some algorithms on dat!

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  • RE Article… “In case the memo was not received, COVID 19 is a pandemic responsible for the deaths of over 1.1. million people across the globe at recent count.”

    Correction Blog Master…Coronavirus cases top 1 million with 50,000 deaths: Live updates

    03/04/2020

    Pandemic worsens in the United States and Europe as number of confirmed infections worldwide exceeds one million.

    CORONA CRISIS AND THE CONCENTRATION OF CONTROL?

    THINGS TO PONDER:

    The CDC estimates that in the United States, there are 30,000 flu-related deaths annually.

    HIV/AIDS Pandemic (2005-2012) Death Toll: 36 million. Cause: HIV/AIDS

    Flu Pandemic (1968) Death Toll: 1 million. Cause: Influenza

    Asian Flu (1956-1958) Death Toll: 2 million. Cause: Influenza

    Flu Pandemic (1918) Death Toll: 20 -50 million. Cause: Influenza

    Sixth Cholera Pandemic (1910-1911) Death Toll: 800,000+ Cause: Cholera

    Flu Pandemic (1889-1890) Death Toll: 1 million. Cause: Influenza

    Third Cholera Pandemic (1852–1860) Death Toll: 1 million Cause: Cholera

    The Black Death (1346-1353) Death Toll: 75 – 200 million. Cause: Bubonic Plague

    Plague of Justinian (541-542) Death Toll: 25 million. Cause: Bubonic Plague

    Antonine Plague (165 AD) Death Toll: 5 million. Cause: Unknown

    COVID-19 DEATHS 50,000 WORLDWIDE AS OF 2ND APRIL 2020, OUT OF 7.5 BILLION PEOPLE.

    IT IS ESTIMATED THAT FORTY TWO MILLION CHILDREN ARE KILLED EACH YEAR WORLDWIDE BY ABORTION. HOW MANY ARE KILLED IN BARBADOS?

    We Are Pretty Much At This Point, How Many Emergencies Are Left Until All Freedoms Are Eroded?!

    #ShrinkGovernmentGrowLiberty #AynRand

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  • Vincent Codrington April 4, 2020 9:25 AM #: “The police and defence forces need to give assistance.”

    Mr. Codrington

    RBPF’s public relation officer, Inspector Rodney Inniss, said they encountered large crowds at some supermarkets while he and other officers were on mobile patrol yesterday. He also said the managers of some supermarkets called for police assistance to maintain crowds. They were also reports of some people competing for space and trolleys.

    According to Inspector Inniss, supermarkets should have hired uniformed security officers to maintain order.

    I agree with him, because, in my opinion, using police officers for this purpose, especially under the prevailing circumstances, is a waste of valuable police resources

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  • Two personal notes.
    I believe in gun control, but earlier this week I asked my wife if we should buy GUN. It is getting to everyone. Sometimes, the streets are so empty that it would seem as if you are watching a zombie movie where people have abandoned the outdoors for fear of zombies.

    Went to Walmart around 7:00 a.m. When I reached the parking lot I saw an extremely long line (social distancing is being practiced).
    All I did was to go back home.

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  • I looked my window a couple minutes ago. Saw Sandra coming down the lane. told her that I should make a citizen’s arrest and make an example of her. Her excuses for being on the road are as follows: according to her she is rebellious and she is going to do as she wants and to hell with government directives.

    According to her, there could be nine persons in a house and one comes down with the virus. She did not explained her thoughts on this matter any further. I told that the the curfew: enabled the identification of viral hot spots, which could then be isolated and treated.

    This is the sort of crap which too much freedom encourages. A flogging like what is done in India should be tried or jail time dished out.

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  • “The urge at this time to engage in political opportunism must be set aside.”

    @ David BU

    An excellent suggestion.

    I’ve noticed some contributors seem to be suggesting ‘government’s policies,’ (none of which they have so far identified), are responsible for large queues at supermarkets.

    Under ordinary circumstances, on any given day (except yesterday for obvious reasons) at “Popular Supermarkets” in Spooner’s Hill and Kendal Hill, for example, would have seen similar crowds.

    What made the difference was “social distancing” and limiting the amount of people in any establishment to 25 and subsequently to 3.

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  • You are trying to tell me that the Government did not know how many ignorant people there are in Barbados? There are many ignorant people ALL OVER THE WORLD. Any decision one makes has to take those ignorant people into consideration.

    So this fiasco lies at the feet of the Government which changed its policy so quickly it did not allow people time enough to shop for necessities after advising them not to panic buy.

    There have been people on BU blogs offering suggestions such as shopping by Barbados ID No. on different days and there could also be a day for persons without Barbados ID cards. Sounds better than what we now have.

    I hope the Government has learnt a valuable lesson. And I hope it has not been learnt a day too late!

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @Artax, why is a decision made by our national government which directly caused the uncontrollable crowds not the direct and “valuable’ use of “police resources”.

    The supermarkets didn’t announce some incredible closing sale and caused a mobeton of people which they then couldn’t control… essentially the govt did that!

    *The govt decreed the curfew and shutdown with relatively tight time lines… they surely met with and alerted the force officials so that they would be ready for crowd control THUS at the time that was a very important and valid use of police resources.

    *I am also going to say that as with everything else in life this is surely an opportunity for former cops and military guys who now work for or own armed security services to be contracted…but the inspector’s remarks are still a bit “presumptuous”… the job of the RBPF is to help manage and enforce citizen control as a result of national edicts… the private sector has to and will take care of THEIR obligations to their customer safety as well… so I dont disagree that supermarkets should also supplement with security (when they know and can plan ahead) but lets call a spade as it is.

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  • Sandra needs help. She is a mentally challenged person. Perhaps you could do as my son has done in dealing with friends who are “thinking” like Sandra – call Sandra to your window in a friendly manner and explain it to her in ways she can understand. Use diagrams if necessary and simple language. Tell her that the quicker we comply the shorter will be our confinement.

    My son is using his virtual window to educate his defiant acquaintances who post pictures of themselves in the wrong place at the wrong time because not a boy is passing by our real window. Not a boy!.

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  • David April 4, 2020 9:45 AM

    The video you posted above dies not work, reporting invalid timestamp.

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  • Thanks Wily

    Try these:

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  • Two young women in my local Indian supermarket just dropped down and died on the job today. I knew them well. This virus is serious. Stop playing games.

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  • India’s solution.

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  • Now it is the people fault
    Who made the policy that caused panic
    Steupse

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  • In TO they are fining transgressors $750 and Corps upto $100,000 for disobeying instructions. Employing Traffic Wardens and other Municipal workers. to issue tickets

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  • Mariposa it is pure stupidity to close supermarkets.

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  • @ Mariposa

    Do not ignore the incompetence of our political leaders. They are not as clever as their flunkies will have you believe. The coronavirus crisis has exposed the poor quality of our leadership – not just political, but also professional.

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  • An international poll of more than 6,000 doctors released Thursday found that the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine was the most highly rated treatment for the novel coronavirus.
    The survey conducted by Sermo, a global health care polling company, of 6,227 physicians in 30 countries found that 37% of those treating COVID-19 patients rated hydroxychloroquine as the “most effective therapy” from a list of 15 options.

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  • Hal, in my branch office there are typically 8-9 people present during the day and we set up a schedule for these people to work from home and to come in at appointed times only. 2 caught the virus this week !

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  • de pedantic Dribbler April 4, 2020 11:07 AM #: “The supermarkets didn’t announce some incredible closing sale and caused a mobeton of people which they then couldn’t control… essentially the govt did that!”

    Yes, I agree, but let’s look at this situation from a DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.

    I’m sure you’ll agree management is responsible for ensuring health and safety risks are properly managed for employees and customers.

    As customers progressively increased after the 8 PM – 6AM curfew was announced, given how they were allowed to queue in close proximity to each other and compete for space, it was clear management of these establishments did not have a crowd management plan. This could have been achieved, for example, in consultation with the RBPF and private security services.

    During her announcement, the PM (ag) said the owners of supermarkets were consulted and agreed with the proposed measures. Bearing this in mind, owners should have anticipated an increase in crowds and prepared accordingly.

    As such, the pandemonium that broke out on Thursday and Friday could be reasonably viewed as resulting from ‘government’s’ incompetency in dealing with COVID-19 pandemic and the failure of businesses to implement safe and effective crowd management strategies in the initial stages, as well.

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  • Today i made a clear and distinct observation that the hastened closure of the supermarkets might have come about because of the dwindling food supply
    Late feb govt had stated that the country had 3 mths supply in stock
    Now it is April and govt been witnessing how many people were stockpiling and probably got an anxiuos concern from private sector about the dwindling food supply which then force govt to takev a hardened position to cut off food supply in a rushed policy which caused panic and fear amongst the public
    Now to hear people blaming the general public because the people got caught up in a survival mode all because of govt ill prepared policy is mindboggling
    How can govt expect people to react when they are told in less than 24hrs they cannot buy food for two weeks
    Govt is lucky that bajans are docile if not the response could have been worst

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  • @ Mariposa

    A rational observation. Well done.

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  • Here is the flipside to your position on the matter.

    We have people hoarding food and if it continued unchecked compromises the food supply for ALL. Is this a rational observation also?

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @Artax, I have no dispute with your 12: 32 PM… what I remain troubled by is the WHY!

    The Blogmaster has used the word “fluid” often from the political world leaders excuse dictionary and it troubles me every time… other bloggers talk about no time for recriminations and I am befuddled that experienced folks here dont accept that to aggressively question flawed tactics is about hoping to avoid future errors and has nothing to do with personally rebuking anyone for past actions.

    In that context it’s troubling that despite similar panic buying in several places around the globe that our govt and business leaders could meet, agree and then so incompetently manage the terrible scenes we saw.

    When @Austin sits in England and so aptly and witheringly offers that “The coronavirus crisis has exposed the poor quality of our leadership – not just political, but also professional”… one has to agree!

    You know some of these leaders @Artax because you either spent some time at school with them; met them at UE or have interacted with them in your business life… surely this type of egregious, incompetent supermaket debacle must cause you to wonder WTF is really going on… these folks are NOT that stupid to oversee what someone above called such a “cluster fvck”!

    The CEO at Popular is a seasoned, very astute businessman do you really believe he would want that mayhem at his place to increase shrink, possibly infect his staff and all that!

    I remain completely perplexed of what really happened over the last two days… it just makes NO SENSE as to WHY it was allowed!

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  • Mottley needs to come clean instead of hiding behind the veil of social distancing
    Yet while leaving the borders open for front line workers to be contaminated is a sure and fast way of spreading the virus given that planes like virgin and american are still coming from hot spots
    Most notably in another article written on BU there is a clear and obvious connection of visitors being walking around the populace with the virus unknown to the people
    Yesterday ugly picture of people struggling to get food in the hot sun is evident of a govt having no feasible or rationale solutions on hand
    However is quick ready and able after measures which have failed to launch a publicity stunt served with kool aid to cool the lashing tongues of the populace
    Mariposa would not be fooled

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  • I post this not for the village illiterate, but for other readers. Read Mancur Olsen on the irrationality of social cooperation. Stop shouting and learn a bit more.

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  • 4, 2020 12:56 PM

    Here is the flipside to your position on the matter.

    We have people hoarding food and if it continued unchecked compromises the food supply for ALL. Is this a rational observation also

    Good observation one of which i made note
    Nothing wrong with govt using such an approach to educate the populace
    Such an approach is clean honest and straight forward and falls in line with global /market projections and manufacturing concerns
    But the 24hr bull shit was totally uncalled and expose the serious judgment of a govt having brains like mental midgets

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    The responsibility for the chaos on Friday lies with the government.

    Even today the rules are contradictory and confused. The PMO and GIS are not giving the same instructions.

    From the GIS you can get the Emergency Management (COVID-19) Curfew (No. 2) Directive, 2020, which says in part “A curfew is hereby imposed throughout Barbados from the 3rd April, 2020 to midnight on 14th April, 2020 between the hours of 6:00 p.m. and 6:00 a.m.” In other words an unambiguous 12 hour curfew.

    From the Prime Ministers Office you can read the official transcript of acting PM Bradshaw, which says in part “Therefore, for the avoidance of any doubt, the curfew which we imposed on this country is a 24-hour curfew unless there is legitimate business which will require you to leave your home and to be on the road.” In other words an unambiguous 24 hour curfew.

    Do we have a 12 hour curfew or a 24 hour curfew? Barbadians need to know.

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  • @ac

    Good you have shown the capacity to receive a counter position. There is hope for you and only you.

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  • David
    Hence so do u

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  • @Peter

    Are you suggesting the inaccuracy you have identified was responsible for the crowds not practising social distancing yesterday?

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  • I WONDER HOW MANY OF THE MINISTERS AND THEIR FAMILIES WERE IN THE SUPERMARKET LINES YESTERDAY OR AS I SUSPECT THEY HAVE FOOD HOARDED FOR A LONG TIME.

    MANY MANY POOR PEOPLE WILL SUFFER OVER THESE 2 WEEKS INCLUDING STARVATION.

    THESE INEPT OVERWEIGHT MINISTERS NEED TO BE SHOT FOR BEING DOMESTIC TERRORISTS.

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  • Coronavirus may cause some food shortages, warns government task force

    WASHINGTON — The nation could begin to see food shortages for some products if the people working on the supply chain lack personal protective equipment, warns an internal Trump administration document obtained by Yahoo News.

    Empty supermarket shelves have become one of the most jarring images of the coronavirus pandemic, which has sickened 270,000 Americans and killed 7,000. But so far, there have been no food shortages, despite 90 percent of the American population being under state-enforced lockdown orders.

    And despite the difficulties people have had in obtaining certain foods, like pasta, grocery stores are generally well stocked. Government officials have argued that any temporary shortages are the result of unprecedented demand, as people have bought more than usual, rather than an actual supply-chain breakdown.

    “I want to assure you that our food supply chain is sound,” Sonny Perdue, the secretary of agriculture, said on March 20.

    That, however, could change if the people who make, package and deliver food lack personal protective equipment, or PPE, including face masks and gloves, according to the internal document shared with Yahoo News, which provides a daily update on various aspects of the coronavirus response, including details ranging from state-by-state infections to hospital capacity and test sites.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-may-cause-some-food-shortages-says-government-document-223308504.html

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  • @David

    Thanks for videos.

    With respect to HOARDING , you can add Willy to that group. By the first week of March Wily had assumed that his area would follow the lockdown pattern and everyday access to essentials would likely be restricted and/or in limited supply. Wily thought he’d better have supplies to last 3 months just in case. Extra pasta, rice, canned goods, toilet tissue, paper towels, spices etc.were procurer just in case. If the situation did NOT dévelope as expected, then these items havre signifiant shelf life and would be eventually used up over time. This can be described as HOARDING, however Wily likes to put in the PLANNING & PREPARDED category. Its all in ones perspective for presurvation.

    PS: Wily also has a gun.

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  • Wily,

    You’re obviously not sufficiently prepared 😉 You forgot to buy chlorine tablets for your swimming pool, gas masks with bio filters, bulletproof vests and renew the subscription for your satellite phone!

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  • This is Bourda in Guyana yesterday.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    I will not say another critical word of the bungling by Bajan leaders because it seems COVID19 also causes a mental dysfunction that affects the ability to act rationally…so clearly the leadership worldwide and here is not incompetent but actually mentally impaired by merely thinking of the virus too… as this craziness clearly suggests:

    “When the Navy hospital ship U.S.N.S. Comfort arrived in New York this week, officials intended to use the huge white vessel to treat non-coronavirus patients in order to relieve crowded hospitals onshore.

    “But on Saturday Defense Department officials made a startling admission: Several patients suspected of having the coronavirus had been mistakenly taken aboard the ship on Friday, a move that could have big ramifications for efforts to keep the ship free of infection.”

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  • @ David April 4, 2020 4:05 PM

    What’s the problem, David? Georgetown has almost no infectees, and the infected people are all in special medical care.It is almost impossible to get infected there unless you lick a sick person in hospital.

    Every Caribbean and African state manages the crisis better than the whites in the North. We must free ourselves from the belief that everything is bad in the South and everything is good in the North.

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  • One point I would push now is the support, in financial relief i.e. tax freedom and security i.e. policing, for the farms and plantations.

    You can eat yam, sweet potato, if nothing else.

    That should be of prime importance.

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  • @Crusoe

    This is a point many have repeatedly made on these pages. Let us hope the minister of agriculture is featured at a press conference coming soon.

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  • CNN is reporting that “The streets of Ecuador’s western city of Guayaquil are deserted, with few residents in sight — and a few dead, as bodies are being left in the streets of this overwhelmed place. ”
    Source: CNN

    After Thursday and Friday’s madness that may well be us in two or three weeks time.

    People are acting out of fear of hunger, because we all know what hungry feels like People are not yet fearful of the invisible virus, because they have not yet seen anybody suffer or die from it.

    Unlike Wily, and I rarely agree with Wily, people are not only buying staples, they are also buying the regular junk sold at supermarkets worldwide. I saw a family yesterday loading their station wagon with multiple, multiple cases of Sprite.

    When did Sprite become a necessity, or an emergency ration? What even happened to drinking water for thirst?

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  • Human behavior is human behavior. And at our worse we are not very nice.We can be altruistic, but at our core we are selfish. When things become really tough it becomes every man for himself.

    I received a social media post of people cheek by jowl at an Aldi supermarket.

    Source Wikipedia “Aldi is the common brand of two German family-owned discount supermarket chains with over 10,000 stores in 20 countries, and an estimated combined turnover of more than €50 billion. Based in Germany, the chain was founded by brothers Karl and Theo Albrecht in 1946 when they took over their mother’s store in Essen. “

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  • When did Sprite become a necessity, or an emergency ration? What even happened to drinking water for thirst?

    That is when one has lost understanding of reality. As you say, water maybe, not sprite. Canned and dried goods, medicines. These are the critical things.

    Barbadians buy too much junk, have said so many times in the past on here. Spending hard earned money on garbage.

    Hopefully all of that imported boxed powder aka cake etc is now left where it should be, on the shelf.

    Put the money into the hands of the egg producers and farmers.

    Now is a good time too, for a drying plant, to buy excess production off the farmers, for goods to be cooked, dried and flaked, packaged, to be built. Consumers then just mix with water and cook as needed.

    Put it in the hands of a FEW experienced businessmen to manage, let bajans buy shares in the company. That is something that the BADMC should be doing.

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  • On March 23 at 8:10 a.m. I remarked to a young relative “The line at Massy was so long I did not even bother to get out of the car. Impossible to keep social distance in that line. This very human behavior is very likely to expand the problem.”

    I am a lay person. Not a professional. If I could see the problem 11 days before yesterday how is it that policy makers, store owners/managers and security officials could not see it?

    So policy makers erred. But so did store managers/owners. And so did security officials. There is more thanenough blame to go around.

    However when all is said and done it is the store owners who are “corning” the money, they should have acted responsibility by hiring many more security people to manage their customers. And the stores should long since have instituted crowd control measures, something as simple a letting customers pull number, and return to their cars, using a public address system to call the customers when it is their time to enter the store. If the wait time was going to be an hour or two customers could return home and come back or run another errand in the interval.

    When a problem seems to have no solution always, always follow the money.

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  • wuh i did not even know that even the media is showing up yall to the world as INCOMPETENT and dumb as rocks to close supermarkets, anyone dies of starvation…yall better pray not…..looks like yall make QUITE A FEW ENEMIES OF THE STATE…what a thing…..yall certainly did not have to work too hard to look like fools

    They did not listen so now they look foolish….

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2020/04/04/bteditorial-the-simple-economics-of-shopping-had-we-listened/?fbclid=IwAR0Vtju2lnlvH65Nu-6lzmZz4enaLib-szEc86j4XhhWKDGbvlCobp9Uw0A

    “This third day of April, in the Year of Our Lord Two Thousand and Twenty, was, in the long and storied history of our island nation, not our finest hour.

    It was by any yardstick for the public health, public order and good governance of Barbados an unmitigated disaster.

    Indeed, if human behaviour is what turns hazards into human disasters, then unknown thousands of Barbadians may have triggered a viral disaster in which weeks of ordinary social intercourse were concentrated in several hours of chaos, confusion and disorder.

    Weeks of best efforts at social distancing to contain a raging contagion which, by every account in our receipt, is leading to a wave of death and severe illness, were dashed because the order was given to close all supermarkets for two weeks – in 24 hours.

    It may well be written one day that never in the course of our island history have so many done so much harm to so many more in so few hours.

    Today cruelly exposed the dangerous limitations of politics intersecting with public health, and economics versus epidemiology.”

    Such a voice of reason we have found in the president of the Barbados Economics Society, Simon Naitram, who a week ago warned that we should move to safeguard human lives rather the economic bottom line. Yes, an economist said so – for what economic recovery is possible if, to borrow from John Maynard Keynes, in the long run, we are all dead?”

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  • Piece the Legend

    @ De Pedantic Dribbler

    De ole man see dat you have taken up where de ole man have left off, AS THE TARGET FOR EVERY COMMENT THAT YOU MAKE ABOUT thinking this Tom Fvuckery through logically!

    Whenever you ask that question here on Barbados Underground what you now start to comprehend is that there is a cadre here of cattle WHO CANNOT RISE TO THAT LEVEL to discuss these topics rationally.

    Everything here is seen in BLP or DLP lenses!

    So enforcing 6 foot distances in every RH line, sharing information about contaminated hotels, the process that goes along with cleanup in these contaminated sites or anything that shows that the Covid Czar and the multitude of square pegs in round holes ARE FVUCKING UP will get you castigated

    But de ole man lef it all to you and i sitting back and watching from de gallery

    Fight on!

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  • Piece…ah thought ya were so REPULSED by the fowls that ya thought if ya came on BU ya might CATCH SOMETHING…the jokers are showing the world how jokers act…

    ..who the hell shuts supermarkets, a lifeline for the masses…dummies of course, try stopping them.

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  • @ Silly Woman April 4, 2020 5:01 PM

    It was on the news day before that the supermarkets want government assistance in paying the workers during this shut down.

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  • They are getting donations from various countries, so what’s with the Beggar’s Charity..

    “A boost in the battle against COVID-19 . . . Chinese government hands over medical supplies to Barbados

    Today, H.E. Yan Xiusheng, Ambassador of the People’s Republic of China to Barbados, officially handed over the donation of anti-coronavirus medical supplies from the Chinese government to the Barbados government, to Lt. Col. the Hon. Jeffrey Bostic, Minister of Health and Wellness of Barbados and Dr. Anton Best, Acting Chief Medical Officer of Barbados.

    The donated medical supplies include 7, 000 surgical face masks, 5,000 KN95 respirators, 8, 450 surgical protective gloves, 4, 530 medical protective goggles, 4, 500 medical protective gowns, 250 non-contact infrared thermometers, and one ventilator. The first batch was delivered to Queen Elizabeth Hospital last week, the second batch arrived in Barbados on April 1, and the third batch will come in the following days.”

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  • @Piece the Legend April 4, 2020 5:03 PM

    Instead of always throwing smoke bombs, we should stick to the truth and only the truth.

    The DLP government has signed numerous agreements with China between 2008 and 2018, including a visa waiver agreement. Therefore, the virus could have reached us as early as November or December 2019 without any screening of those entering the country.

    If there are deaths in our island, the DLP is solely responsible.

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  • It was on the news day before that the supermarkets want government assistance in paying the workers during this shut down.(Quote)

    Not a single cent and prohibit them from sacking workers during this crisis. If they do they must heavily compensate the dismissed worker.
    We must let these Trinidadian and other foreigners know that Barbadians are not fools. Further, if they make noises, their businesses should be boycotted. Anyone buying from them should be named and shamed.

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  • Piece the Legend

    Tron, man you heah killing de ole man

    “…If there are deaths in our island, the DLP is solely responsible….”

    How you does come up with these things though?

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  • THey dont even pay the workers well in the best of times, let those greedy, bloodsucking pigs go to hell and stop trying to leach off taxpayers…it would be best the money is handed directly to the people let them find a way to survive

    ……IT IS THE PEOPLE’S MONEY, NOT THE LOWLIFE WHO ARE ALWAYS LIVING OFF THE BACKS OF THE MAJORITY…

    essential services in other jurisdictions raised their employess’ salary without trying to steal from the people..

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  • @David, great article, however it gives me no pleasure in saying that the horse has bolted for this highly contagious virus. I prefer to be wrong by some fluke of nature.

    We dilly dallied about not shutting down.

    Tourist wutlessly came to island knowing they were infected and did not inform hotel. How many more other than the Crane had such an experience.

    Persons who were exposed refused to stay home and be self quarantined.

    Some retarded bajans still travelled to hotspots despite warningS and came back infected…no apology from me.

    Merchants refused to have a proper customer crowd control as moving stock was their only concern.

    Non observance of social distancing by 75% of population for its a joke to many bajans..

    Many refused to wear mask as their sheeple instinct said guvment thinks for me no so need to question. I trust the science but not the scientist.

    Have baked nightly curfew only stopped partying and liming at night as petri dishes.

    Asymptomatic persons were allowed to spread virus during the day until 8pm.

    ZRs and buses were moving vectors and petri dishes coming with passengers to every parish near you.

    These sort of decisions are made when you have strong personalities and all academics but no laymen to give common sense opinions.

    What can we do? Stay into our homes, eat less so food supply can last as long as possible and plant some food. COVID-19 aint going anywhere soon as person who have recovered are still showing high virus load 6 weeks after.

    Here is his story https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8059513/Cruise-passenger-caught-coronavirus-Diamond-Princess-says-just-like-cold.html

    Police ah begging wunna this virus is real two police died in Alabama on Thursday so don`t let arrogant zeal cause you to get infected, keep up the good work and be safe while wunna “Serve and Protect.” Oh by the way software the vendor who still claiming he was not paid by government, can be utilized to monitor quarantined persons, its that modular and extremely adaptable.

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  • Barbadians are now in aposition to SHUT ALL THESE GREEDY PIGS DOWN. once and for all, they have ALWAYS BEEN THIEVES…and if this incompetent government allows it to continue…kick them out, just a little while longer to go..

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  • Our clever, world class, highly educated middle classes cannot even run a supermarket, a modern grocery shop. Yet, for some reason, they think they are world class politicians and businesspeople, and punch above their weight. At least the old people could weigh a pound of flour and keep good books for the people who took groceries on credit.
    When I was a little boy, James A. Tudor was one of our top business people. His son, an Oxford classics graduate, too proud to be a shop keeper, spent his latter days getting food parcels from a fellow senator.

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  • Tron another one today
    52 we have now passed the half century mark in two weeks
    Who is in control of this madness should be locked up

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  • Anyone familiar with raising sheep in the village would know that there was always one particular sheep you would have to hold while taking them out, or bringing them in. If that particular sheep ever got the chance, it would make a bee line for the neighbour’s ground or kitchen garden, where, obviously, the grass was always greener and the rest of sheep would follow.

    When a little tropical storm is approaching the island, there is pandemonium with people like federation at ATMs, Supermarkets and Gas Stations. Imagine then an announcement of a 12hr curfew downgraded to a 24hr lockdown in the space of a few hours. All of this after rumours of such were dismissed as fake news by the Government.

    If I were a cynic or conspiracy theorist, I would say the plan worked perfectly. Head and shoulders above all others indeed.

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  • Thanks Kammie, you continue to keep up your advocacy and be safe at this time.

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  • Saw police without protective gear trying to coordinate the large crowd
    All those are glaring mistakes attributed to govt incompetence who like everybody alive on this planet saw the devastation and warning signs with messages that cried loud and clear “they waited too long”
    How can anyone over look such obvious messages coming from Corona is mind boggling
    Now some wants to blame the peoples action yesterday when It was the govt actions that caused the various negative reactions
    Simple things like the hot sun and long lines all geared to humanity govt never gave proper thought or by way of communication to management of the store
    Seeing or hearing about the peoples plight
    Mia could have sent a minister of govt or even make a concerning call to supermarket management with the largest crowd
    A call having messages or words to diffuse the situation
    But what does she do Mia calls a news conference to serve kool aid later that night
    How is that for bold leadership in times of crisis

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  • Kammie M Holder

    #UnpalatableTruth that shows trust the science but not the scientist

    Police shift supervisors should ensure their charges are well protected and not just be drunk with authority for its called humane leadership

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/04/europe/coronavirus-masks-war-intl/index.html

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  • @Hal … You wrote “A rational observation. Well done.”
    Reminds me of the BSE (Mad Cow disease) in Britain, except it was the government saying “British” beef was safe to eat.
    Nothing surprises me — More fools are born every day than die — A boyceism.
    The government is being blamed for the crowds, next it will be for the mass infections and deaths — just to prove your point.

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  • @ Piece the Legend April 4, 2020 6:06 PM

    Follow the connection between the DLP and the CCP. We must strengthen the narrative that the virus is a direct result of the failed DLP politics towards China.

    You read on BU the comments of naive idiots, how they praise China for protective masks for a few cents. The truth is: China will not compensate us for the billions USD we lost in tourism, caused by a few uncivilized cavemen in central China drinking the blood of infected bats.

    China owes us at least USD 3 billion in damages because the government there first destroyed samples and covered up the epidemic. Anyone who now holds chopsticks up like the DLP is committing high treason.

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  • NorthernObserver

    @HA
    “We must let these Trinidadian and other foreigners know that Barbadians are not fools”….”Our clever, world class, highly educated middle classes cannot even run a supermarket, a modern grocery shop” [Quotes]

    Never sure which side you are on. Your soap box must have at least 8 sides?

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  • @ Northern

    Plse explain. Don’t blame me if you are confused. I don’t do soapboxes, I speak from core principles.

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  • NorthernObserver

    One post you are saying Bajans are not fools,….and the next you are saying Bajans cannot even run a supermarket?

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  • @ Northern

    When I speak or write, I am very precise with my language. I have said this before. I came under attack from Bajan-Canadians because I said Mark Carney was not the best person to be governor of the Bank of England. He was not.
    I also came under attack from Bajan-Canadians because I said the only reason Canada was a member of the G& was because it was a white-majority nation. Its economy is not in the top seven economies. It is 11th.
    For all this I have been called anti-Canadian. Now you are saying that one minute I say Bajans are not fools…and the next they cannot run a supermarket.
    It is not only you, it is a BU thing. BU contributors are not in the habit of asking for explanations, they prefer to jump the gun. Some even fabricate nonsense, such as that I once said a professional man had forged his qualifications. Common sense would tell you that someone who worked in libel law for a number of years would not say such a think unless he was drunk, farless on a website that could be read by 7bn people.
    For the record, here is what I said…..

    “Our clever, world class, highly educated middle classes cannot even run a supermarket, a modern grocery shop. Yet, for some reason, they think they are world class politicians and businesspeople, and punch above their weight. At least the old people could weigh a pound of flour and keep good books for the people………..”

    Context, dear boy; context. Let us think before attacking.

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  • NorthernObserver

    Attacking?
    I apologise, I didn’t appreciate you were complimenting Bajans, both their politicians and businesspeople.
    Unsure what your preamble about Bajan canadians has to do with anything regarding Barbadian politicians, their businesspeople and their competence.

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  • ΝYC ΙCU DR says this “pneumonia” allegedly caused by COVID-19 does not seem like traditional pneumonia at all. Says patients are being starved of oxygen, but not by a traditional pneumonia.

    I am a physician who has been working at the bedside of COVID+ patients in NYC. I believe we are treating the wrong disease and that we must change what we are doing if we want to save as many lives as possible. I welcome any feedback, especially from those bedside: doctors, nurses, xray techs, pharmacists, anyone and everyone. Does this sound wrong or right, is something more right? Please let me know.

    .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9GYTc53r2o

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  • @ Northern

    You are still making the same mistake. It is at this point I begin to think it is not a mistake, but a deliberate misrepresentation. Plse re-read the above again and tell me where I have been complimenting politicians and business people. How about this….“ At least the old people could weigh a pound of flour and keep good books for the people………(Quote) These ordinary people are also Bajans.
    More than that, plse tell me in the years I have been on BU where I have ever complimented politicians – Barbadians, Americans, Chinese, British, Russians, any?
    The introduction was about misrepresentation; where I previously made a point and it was misinterpreted a anti-Canadian – as now.. As to attacking….is the below a compliment? If so, thanks for the compliment.

    Never sure which side you are on. Your soap box must have at least 8 sides?(Quote)

    It is accusatory. I have been consistent on my principles since my teens. Facts may change, but principles do not.This comes back to the Bajan Condition, always growling, never prepared to have a decent conversation or ask for a simple explanation. Always anxious to put down someone.
    But when the person being attacked fights back, then that person is rude, discourteous, etc. Not me, I will pick my fights, but I WILL fight back. I am not going to be polite about stupidity.

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  • Hal you summed up bajans correctly
    The truth hurts
    Very hard to carry on a civil conversation with them
    They are reminders of midget soldiers always able and ready to pick the wrong battles

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  • @ Mariposa

    Bullies do not scare me. Not as a kid, not now as an old man. I worked with some of the toughest gangsters in the UK and was not intimidated. So it is unlikely that I will be scared off by people who do not even have the confidence to put their names to their abuse. They are cowards.

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  • Good to see recent measures by government have removed people from the streets of Barbados, this will help to contain the virus. This blogmaster expects there will be tweaking to achieve the best result as we continue to operate in unprecedented uncharted times.

    Let us continue to sensitize Bajans to ensure we escape this scourge with little ‘damage’.

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  • David when will govt do the right thing and exposed the businesses were they were victims exposed to the Corona virus
    Recently i read names of businesses in international countries where their employees were exposed to the virus
    Did not hear of citizen revolt coming from such revelation
    Why is it in barbados the secrecy prevails even in matters of life or death
    Is it a bajan thing or just pure bred ignorance

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  • A few nights ago a jamaican who had entered the country around early march was held up as an example for breaking the curfew
    Which now makes for wonder
    How is it that after curfew hours there are still bajans taking to street and none are being arrested and held up for public scrutiny
    I understand that curfew law gives govt unlimited powers to act in ways against the civil rights of people in unquestionable manner
    Which begs the question was the Jamaican lady who was arrested given due process under the law
    Was she read the Miranda Rights
    Was she told she has a civil right to counsel
    Or was she thrown before the court without proper representation
    I know that most with political or personnel axe to grind would give responses that are steeped in their own feelings
    Those answers can remain where they ought to be laying low dug deep into a grave yard of ignorance

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  • Today is Sunday, chill out from frothing at the mouth for a few hours. Let it apply to others who the cap fit.

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  • David why Sunday?
    Asking for a friend

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  • @ Mariposa

    I’m a bit curious.

    RE: “Was she read the Miranda Rights?”

    Why would the RBPF “read the Miranda Rights” to the Jamaican lady?

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @Northern, if I may use your remarks to do my 3-sided soapbox!…. We parse words here often but its just a reflection of the broader society and the problems words cause daily…in and out of context.

    When you said “Attacking?[…] I apologise, I didn’t appreciate you were complimenting Bajans, both their politicians and businesspeople.”…I smirked.

    I surely interpreted the words “Our clever, world class, highly educated middle classes cannot even run a supermarket, a modern grocery shop. Yet, for some reason, they think they are world class politicians and businesspeople, and punch above their weight” as bluntly facetious and smugly pejorative….. It was no compliment as you perceived because along with the tongue in cheek ‘clever and ‘worldclass’ one does not generally append the old adage “punch above their weight” in that way as a praiseworthy honour!

    This reminded me of the politician who threatened to sue because he said words were taken out of context to misquote him, when in fact he was quoted quite accurately and IN CONTEXT!

    Critics have said that the POTUS called the coronavirus a hoax but he strongly disputes that he ever called the virus itself a hoax.

    The man said “… They tried the impeachment hoax. That was on a perfect conversation. They tried anything, they tried it over and over, they’ve been doing it since [I] got in. […] And this is their new hoax. […] We’re 15 people [positive tests] in this massive country. And because of the fact that we went early, we went early, we could have had a lot more than that.”

    THIS is THEIR NEW HOAX. What is THIS? COVID19… Only 15 cases in the massive US of A he asks with disdain… how can this be a ‘real’ big problem! So just as he calls the impeachment a hoax and calls the call with the president of Ukraine ‘perfect… he is saying the virus is a hoax, is he not!

    All that to say: We can be as precisely sarcastic or ironic or facetious as we want to be and leave lots of room to say ‘I didn’t say that’!

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  • When the 24-hr curfew was announced the acting PM said the government was working with supermarkets to come up with a plan. Nobody heard that? No, no, we bumrushed supermarkets, some only to pick up 2 or 3 items–detergent, fancy chips. I even hear some saying people need Easter tings. All those people’s cupboards were empty or no alternatives could be found at the village shops, fish market, farms etc that are deemed essential? Had the announcement been 48hrs or 72, the outcome would have been the same. Look at the queues in gas stations, even though they will remain open everyday. Me, I would have waited until the supermarkets closed that day and then announced their closure with immediate effect. Wunna woulda cuss and say wunna shoulda get at least a day, the same day we cussing bout now. The acting PM also said once you’re doing business with a business deemed essential you can move around. I still find it funny that people don’t seem to understand the fluidity of decisionmaking this pandemic requires. I guess when you have an axe to grind you talk more than you actually listen or just ignore what you hear.

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  • So if there was a plan to work with the supermarkets why wasn’t the plan laid out BEFORE OR AT THE SAME TIME the shutdown was put in place? Why announce a 24 hour shutdown giving less than 24 hours notice and then after the chaos, tell us there is a plan to work with the supermarkets?

    Sorry not drinking from that Koolaid at all. Truth is when wunna realised that there was no way the supermarkets could handle the chaos, wunna stated only then that a plan was claimed to exist. As of today I am yet to hear the details of this alleged plan.

    As I said I supported all that you did prior to Wednesday. From then till the shutdown however the chaos falls at your feet. To then come and talk about going to small shops for your needs, again clearly an after thought. How many small shops in warrens, jackson, green hill, bagatelle, the university area and husbands, you think it would take to replace the volume of business Massy, Cost U Less and Pricemart do combined?

    The truth is in an attempt to avoid the spread of the virus more people were exposed between Wednesday and Friday, than were probably exposed for the entire 4 weeks prior.

    All things considered I think Bajans behaved remarkably well under the circumstances. If the same was done in Jamaica for example the outcome would of been totally different.

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  • @John A

    Enuff is correct, Santia mentioned the government was working with the supermarkets to put a plan in place for delivery using e-commerce etc. Agree with both of you that the supermarkets should have been ordered closed on Thursday.

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  • @ Enuff
    Stop it! The Govt has been making a mess of things for weeks now.

    I still find it funny that people don’t seem to understand the fluidity of decisionmaking this pandemic requires
    Nonsense. Since January, the dangers of SARS Cov2 were clear. The evolution is Barbados is no different than in any other country. Our curve is just lagging behind.

    Several countries have been battling the pandemic and there is much that we could have learned from their approaches.

    The Dullard has previously asked, “what is so special about Barbados?”. Does the virus have a different epidemiology in Barbados?

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @Enuff, I’ll assume you came upon the idea “Me, I would have waited until the supermarkets closed that day and then announced their closure with immediate effect” either after futher review or doing some more research… so let me ask you as I did yesterday otherwise: why didn’t the smart people in cabinet who would have had the research advice at hand or already done the deep review not understand what you contemplated and DO JUST THAT!

    And then continue “working with supermarkets to come up with a plan” to open this week on any of the various recommended options published by others here!

    The pandemic is an unexpected occurrence, yes… but in Barbados we have now been able too see it unfold in other locales, see their plans for big cities and small communities… we must also have our own crisis plan which we are using as our guide.

    Thus, although one must be nimble to react to any changes I dont see any dynamic and rapidly changing unknown variables which require fluidity of decisionmaking! No, senor!

    WHAT was so fluid since last Wednesday or from Monday which in your view caused the BLP admin to react as they
    did?

    Fluidity leading to new decisionmaking means that something changed drastically and unexpectedly to cause a new direction… what was that senor… what did they miss and then suddenly saw!

    This admin terribly bungled this…plain and simple! That’s being patriotic and non partisan!

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  • Minister of Health to have a press conference at 11am.

    Not good news from all reports.

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  • @ David
    Santiago mentioned the government was working with the supermarkets to put a plan in place for delivery using e-commerce etc.

    Do you know how ridiculous this sounds?
    For goodness sakes man we are talking about getting a few thousand households to purchase the essentials while limiting personal contact. This is not rocket science.

    Next we will have the apparatchiks complaining that there are not enough code developers or there is limited bandwidth or some such nonsense.

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  • Do you understand that mistakes will be made?

    Steuspe

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  • @ david

    Thanks I will listen to hear at 11. I would imagine the rate will be increasing as it did in other territories until it levels off and starts falling. Hopefully we will peak below 100 and fall from there. Just let us make sure our people can get access to food and care and we can survive this I am sure.

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  • Without access to the modeling a good guess is that we are still in climb mode on the curve.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @John A, you recognize obviously that the effort to use the “many small shops in warrens, jackson, green hill, bagatelle, the university area and husbands” etc was an attempt to force small numbers in one place at a time.

    I thought the concept actually made sense…of course the issues of availability of items, as you suggest, would quickly become a problem …but again with planning that was still manageable.

    @David, re “Minister of Health to have a press conference at 11am….Not good news from all reports.”

    I hope sir that the bad news is palatable.

    I have been shouting at family for several weeks now to NOT take seriously the nonsense from the govt about Covid19 infections so frankly I’ll put the blame squarely on their shoulders related to their personal choices.

    Whatever the govt does now is the proverbial “clean up in aisle 30″… the spill is already a wreckage so let’s just fix it asap, efficiently. Please!

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  • @ Dullard

    I am not straying off point. The basic principle of policymaking is that you look at the problem, you consult key people, you also look at how other jurisdictions have dealt with a similar problem, then you go away and draft your proposals. You come back and consult again. Then you put into law the proposals.
    What policy analysts do when looking at the proposals is they also look at the problem, at what people/organisations said during the discussions, the appropriateness of policies in other jurisdictions and what was finally implemented.
    The coronavirus shock did not come out of the blue; remember when the President walked on to a cruise liner, with about 37 lackeys, thereby risking the health of the nation? That was irresponsible.
    The incompetence that followed was hugely embarrassing. There I no excuse for it. What is worse, according to one of the brighter BU commenters, the president is the best leader not only in parliament, but, he hinted, in the land.
    Do we need any further proof that Barbados is a failed state? We fail at every major challenge we face. No excuses. No reactionary nationalist mumbo jumbo will save us.

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  • From all reports small corner shops have seen a puck up in trade which led to stocks being depleted. The government will have to tweak to permit food distribution from wholesalers.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @David, bro I gotta laugh 🤣🤣 uproariously.

    First, “Do you understand that mistakes will be made?…Steuspe”

    If you are totally focused on the biggest case ever of your life and you freakup a most basic aspect..bro that’s not a mistake just so…that is blithering incompetence OR unmanageable dissension between advisers!

    Second: “Without access to the modeling a good guess is that we are still in climb mode on the curve.”

    There is absolutely no lack of modelling as there are way too many capable mathematicians and scientists in Bim … but lacking a DECISIVE shelter in place response to the positive numbers from the TESTING done “a good guess is that we are still in climb mode on the curve”… And FINALLY somebody said, “oh bad word, we plucked”!

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  • I find this discussion to be very fascinating.

    I detect at least three set of opinions. Let us ignore the two extremes (always right and always wrong).
    Then there is a group who believe that the government handling of the crisis was correct in the initial stages, but it has made missteps
    in subsequent phases.

    🙂 Please note that I consider John as a single rambling individual and not as a group. One does not consider a single nut as a pack. Your turn grasshopper 🙂

    If one were to look at other countries, it is obvious that the response to COVID19 has not gone as often planned. In a perfect world we would find the correct solution in the first attempt (we would not even have the virus); but this world is not perfect.

    Does anyone imagine that we would pass through this pandemic without having one person infected?

    Governments are faced with a number of choices and often choose the one that they think will cause the least harm.
    We do not know how many scenarios the Barbados government was presented with. Two completely different scenarios may have yielded similar results and the government may have chosen the one that gave a better result at the end.

    So far, I have not seen any argument (on BU) that convinces me that the general course of action was not the right one. I have seen differences of opinion but that is what thinking and independent people are supposed to have. To me, the real measure of a government failure would be a “high’ number of deaths.

    Can someone convince me that the strategy by the government was less successful than the pie in the sky strategy of panicking and hoping that there would be no cases. I suspect the strategy advocated by others would have been a disaster as the virus would have been strongly entrenched in society before we became aware of it.

    The government handling of the crisis was correct in the initial stages, but it has made missteps in subsequent phases. The government must not allow itself to be panicked by the “pie in the sky” crowd

    Does anyone imagine that we would pass through this pandemic without having one virus related death?

    By the way, if you thought that not one Bajan on the island would have been infected by the virus, then It might come as a complete surprise if someone dies because of the virus.

    The real measure of government success/failure is the number of virus related death that occur on the island. Let us put aside politics and hope that Barbados weathers this storm with the minimal of damage.

    ———————————————————————————xxxxxx——————————————————-
    Let me add this. For some are quick to extract what they want from whatever is stated:

    Mariposa, I am not hoping/wishing that anyone dies. In fact, I hope that we survive this virus with “0” deaths. I hope that you wish the same

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