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To become a Vegan!
To become a Vegan!

In this article we shall connect the environmental discourses, to ‘development’, to energy usage, to cruelty to animals, to calls for innovation, to militarism, to finite petroleum. In fleshing out a path towards a radical veganism our conclusions will include that, as a political-economy philosophy, it holds the best chances for saving Pachamama from the actions of us all, since the Industrial Revolution. It represents the pathway towards the sublime, the beautiful, if we able to change our belief systems and build cultures of wellness. There will be ironies and internal contradictions!

Some of those who like to pretend to talk about progressive agendas take it to themselves to set certain litmus tests as to who is a progressive or not. Who is is communist or not. Who is an anarchist or not. Who is a radical or not. Whose philosophy is absent. These intellectual gadflies have not yet learnt that even some ultra-conservatives can be progressives, are progressives.

It certainly does not help when the small-minded societies from whence we come will never find ways to be early adopters of radical views, at their centres of cultural activity. This will only over-complicate their simplistic notions about the sanctity of ‘man in the street’ political discourses. So if one is a self proclaimed radical but fails to join misguided efforts to impose the unhealthy practice of ‘bulling’ universally, for example, in their minds there is to be some fundamental contradiction.

The internal logic of veganism cannot sit comfortably with dominionism either. For it is dominionism which teaches us that we are more important than all other organisms. That humans have some misbegotten ‘divine right’ to destroy all life support systems for a few dollars or short term survival. That everything has to have a price. That clean air, clean water, organic food, medicine, real education and security are not to be parts of the commons, but commodities to be sold to the highest bidder, the most powerful of us.

We currently slaughter 2,000,000,000 animals every week for ‘food’. Between 200 and 100,000 organisms are wiped out annually. The ability of the oceans to sustain life will be too compromised by 2028. The oceans are dying. Despite the efforts of the Sea Shepherd, the Japanese insist on their right to kill whales ostensibly for ‘research’ but they end up in the human food chain. In the animal kingdom, only the human virus behaves like this. Industrial agriculture produces a major part of the green house gases and we hold steadfastly to our ‘divine right’ to unhealthy edible substances and petroleum.

Two grazing hoof animals require five (5) acres of land, on average. But five acres of land could also sustainably feed 10,000 people with organic foods and with a marginal or positive environmental impact. But the nexus of petroleum and industrial agriculture together are almost entirely responsible for greenhouse gases. So arable land is not generally the issue, we have the non-chemical technologies to make almost any land arable. But we are locked into a mindset that says if you don’t eat meat you must be weak as central to a mindless culture of indifference as to where our food comes from. We remember well how some would eat their meat first to avoid ‘a possible sharing’ with a would be visitor.

In spite of the presence of Seeds of Death, large numbers still eat organic foods in several circumstances. Sometimes they are unable to secure artificial fertilizers, GMO seeds and other big-Argo chemically-based inputs. Of course, these have not attracted the stamp of approval of the FDA and have no other such markings. Vandana Shiva has led an heroic campaign to protect the diversity and culture of organic seeds and their traditional exchange by farmers from those who would wish to patent everything in nature for profit.

The addiction to killing animals for food is leading to the death of us all. Still we have 600,000 vegetarians on earth and many less vegans. Our existence is barely registered even when we have surpassed the much haunted  McKibben, 350 parts per million, and are now nearer to 400 parts per million – way pass this significant tipping point, and in quick time.

But Bill McKibben, like most of the leadership of the established environmental movement, in the West, has been compromised by global corporate interests. And there will never be a determination by the environmental aristocrats to challenge vested power at its centre. We could also include the Sierra Club as another institution which provides the illusion of political diversity, for a fictitious left of centre. However, this has been a mere political diversion to protect the centres of corporate control, not aimed at the radical transformation needed, but the reverse.

To be a vegan is the most radical expression of consciousness in our times. It’s not merely limited to what we eat, drink or wear but must have the same transformative influence on all other spheres of existence. It represents a direct confrontation to the corporates which are willing to ceaseless commodity all living organisms. A personal decision to embrace a self-defined veganism says to biotechnology companies that the irrational modification of life is unacceptable. Its a personal statement of resistance, in the defense of Pachamama.

These are the environments in which we hear calls for innovation. But innovation has too often meant more extraction of resources from mother earth. It has been the main driving force pushing us over the cliff. It has brought the extinction of the human as a not so distant possibility as our environment does not guarantee a linear or gradual deterioration in circumstances. This must be dealt with!

That trajectory is guided by aristocrats around the world as they compete with each other for power, influence and resources. It is a vision built on fiat currencies and undergrided by the wide spread use of petroleum products in every facet of human activity. But all the aristocrats around the world still hold a deep fear of the people, not other aristocrats. The latent power of the people is the last best hope in avoiding an extinction event, if time allows!

Veganism must mean the absence of a reliance on fossil fuels. While this is true, another truism is that we cannot continue the way we currently exist, in the absence of petroleum. While wind and solar technologies have the potential to make a larger contribution to energy needs, together they cannot come any way near replacing fossil fuels entirely, given current and escalating human demands and the 300 byproducts produced from oil, gas and coal. We have long past ‘peek oil’. But, the interlocking aristocrats around the world could careless that new discovers, for over forty years, have been far exceeded by annually increasing demands.

So unless we want to innovate ourselves out of existence we may have to consider the suggestion by a famous philosopher about the inability of Pachamama to sustain any ‘development’ beyond that of stone age man. A thinking based on the notion that we will be unable to make the personal transformation required to save our Mother. His is not an unrealistic assessment.

In an age when it is thought that all kind of medical breakthroughs have been made we like to hear about which pharmaceutical could heal which ailments or perceived sicknesses. Nobody hears all the side effects new drugs come with. Sometimes the medicine is worst than the disease. We still don’t known the active ingredient in Bush Tea, no pun intended, or weather it may have some marketability beyond Grand Mama’s command to drink, drink…….. no matter how bitter it was. All bush tea is meant to be bitter medicine! Not umami or sour or sweet or salty ……….. bitter! But vegans eat a wider range of foods that most would imagine.

Moving beyond capitalism. We need not wait until the contradictions reach a certain point before start to think about what comes next. We need not see capitalism as a whole system. We could break it down into its constituent parts. As an entire system the task maybe too daunting.We can look at all the struggles we have and take them on one at a time. We could measure economy in different terms. Not GDP and the likes. We could have other consensus wellness indicators. Or happiness indicators. Or fairness indicators.


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206 responses to “Towards a Radical, Healthy, Veganism”


  1. image

    Click on image to view presentation titled – Simple Basic Metabolism compliments of Dr.GP.


  2. Whether we are vegans or not we must take in carbs fats proteins etc
    As shown, all these foods will be converted to acetyl Co A .

    AcetylCoA can be converted interalia to the energy currency of the body ATP or compounds in the Krebs cycle that can be turned in to molecules that the body needs for its use

    WHAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS IS ADDITIVES PRESERVATIVES ETC BECAUSE THESE THINGS HAVE CREPT UP UPON US SUBTLY, AND CONTRIBUTES SIGNIFICANTLY TO OUR CURRENT DISEASE PATTERNS


  3. There is an obvious correlation (positive) between Barbados high import bill and high incidence of NCDs. We have become intoxicated by conspicuous consumption expenditure, another form of slavery. It is difficult to understand how we can ever extricate our people from the addiction. Have a look at the guts of Inniss and Boyce former and current ministers of health.


  4. @ GP
    Please forgive us but we are way pass that. We already know the damage being done to us all and the Divine Mother. What we have to do is to fashion a response, post haste.


  5. @Georgie Porgie | November 14, 2014 at 8:16 PM,
    How was the rum shop old boy?
    I agree 100% with your above comment! Too often we both ignore and dismiss the achievements of previous generations. In are rush to embrace new methods and ideas we make bad irreversible decisions which impacts heavily on are society.
    That’s my lot for the evening.


  6. This is a problem that is also seen overseas that we have imported as we will see in a slide show used in one of my Nutrition courses


  7. Click image to view presentation titled Consumer Concerns about Foods and Water by Dr. GP


  8. Pachamama

    You have advocated the Vegan diet with probably has some short term benefits, but study after study shows that all Vegans have impaired B12 metabolism in every group. And do not sell me the myth that B12 can be ascertain from a plant source because science does not support this myth.


  9. @Pacha

    How can we examine a solution if the patients and or those affected are unaware of the deleterious effect contrary consumption is having on their bodies?


  10. sometimes we tend to get ourselves caught up in a time capsule that never exist,,wearing binders that exempt most of reality, in this modern world with surveys and readiness of analytical data it is easy to present and dictate however with no such data present from forty or fifty years it is hard to give an objective view and ones only theory is mostly formed out of conjecture,

  11. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Dompey | November 14, 2014 at 8:56 PM |
    “You have advocated the Vegan diet with probably has some short term benefits, but study after study shows that all Vegans have impaired B12 metabolism in every group.”

    If that statement is true then there ought to be a very high incidence of ” impaired B12 metabolism” among people of East Indian descent especially Hindus.
    Has that been established?

    What would you say Dompey to the argument that Europeans evolved with “bigger brains” than Africans and Asians because of their excessively heavy diet of animal flesh and milk in the past possibly before the Agrarian revolution in Europe when plant-based foods could be processed and stored.
    Given the harsh winter conditions animals provided a ready source of food for survival. Whereas Africans and other South Asian scattered ethnicities relied more on a plant-based diet of fruits berries and nuts.

    However, the downside of such a heavy reliance on animals as sources of food meant the introduction of many diseases into the human biological system. Check out how many diseases afflicting humans are passed from animals, e.g. pigs.
    What about the claim that many viruses including the Ebola virus are contracted through the consumption of the meat of wild animals or bush meat.

    Probably GP can confirm, probably of course without the Adam & Eve story.


  12. Georgie Porgie

    When I listen to you talking about additives and preservatives, I am quite taken back because this is common knowledge among the general populace here in America. Which leads me to concluded that the Barbadians aren’t as conscientious about their health as their ought to be. Every few minutes here in America, you see a different add on TV regarding a new medication and the condition it is designed to treat and this enhances one’s awareness regarding these common health conditions.


  13. Vitamin B12 is not found in plant foods because plants cannot synthesize B-12 It is the only vitamin which is synthesized by micro-organisms & not by plants & animals.

    B12 comes from bacteria in animals. Intestinal bacteria can synthesize B-12 (in colon), but the site of synthesis does not allow absorption.

    Vegan Sources of :Vitamin B12 include nutritional yeast, fortified cereals, fortified soy milks and soy products

    Only water-soluble vitamin that can be stored consequently Vitamin B12 is rare ……even in IDIOTS1


  14. Every few minutes here in America, you see a different NEWSCAST ABOUT MURDERS aND TV regarding a new medication THAT HAVE BEEN REMOVED BY THE DRUG DEVELOPER BECAUSE OF THE SERIOUS SIDE EFFECTS IT CAUSES

    Every few minutes here in America, you see ON TV HOW TO KILL, AND WHO KILL WHO IN THE STATE OR THE NATION

    FOX NEWS HAS A PROGRAM THAT SHOW HOW LITTLE AMERICANS KNOW ABOUT ANYTHING


  15. B Vitamin Food Sources
    Grains group provides thiamin, riboflavin, niacin and folate.
    Fruits and vegetables provide folate.
    Meat group provides thiamin, niacin, vitamin B6 and vitamin B12.
    Milk group provides riboflavin and vitamin B12.


  16. One assumes the Minster is citing empirical data.

    ALARMING FACTS Incidence of NCDs rising

    11/15/2014

    AN estimated 50 000 Barbadians have at least one non-communicable disease (NCD).

    Furthermore, there is an estimated 25 000 persons who are at immediate risk for developing an NCD.

    Minister of Health, John Boyce, revealed the startling figures during the launch of the “Workplace Wellness Programme” of Pharma Wellness International Inc., held at the Maria Holder Diabetes Centre for the Caribbean, yesterday.

    He said that in Barbados, the chronic non-communicable diseases now surpass ill health and death from all other illnesses (including respiratory, gastrointestinal and musculoskeletal), and accidents combined.

    “This situation has the potential to reverse many of the social, health and economic gains made over the last five decades. Statistical evidence suggests that the levels of obesity, tobacco use, exposure to alcohol, diabetes mellitus and hypertension are all on the increase. We have now reached the stage close to one third of all adults have a chronic disease.”

    http://www.barbadosadvocate.com/newsitem.asp?more=local&NewsID=39936


  17. @ David

    I tried to check the medical section of the Blog and could not find it. I find the second presentation too long to cover tonight, so could you add these two to the others and put the med section back up. Thanks. Pat


  18. RE
    Pat | November 14, 2014 at 10:01 PM |
    @ David
    THIS IS A GOOD IDEA AS THIS PRESENTATION IS BEST SUITED FOR REFERENCE


  19. Dompey November 14, 2014 at 6:22 PM “You’re an ostentious egotistical nincompoop.”

    Dompey is right. There are a lot of ostentious egotistical nincompoops on this blog.

    Including one Dompey….


  20. yes the facts are alarming but if the possibility of presenting data was available for forty years ago the percentage per population having non communicable diseases might be about the same as today,


  21. Georgie Porgie

    Thanks for that piece of information regarding B12, it was quite informative, now send it to Pachamam because he is the one pushing the Vegan Diet and decaying the consumption of animal product. The truth of the matter is research has shown time and time again that adhering to a strict Vegan Diet only prevents certain forms of cancers.


  22. PLEASE KINDLY NOTE
    THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH A VEGAN DIET
    VEGANS CAN GET B 12 FROM OTHER SOURCES BESIDE MEAT


  23. Pachamama

    The fact of the matter is Aging is a risk factor for Cancer. The medical literature tell us that as we Age, our bodies are progressively deprived of the mechanism to fight Cancer as in our younger years. So I hardly think that a Vegan Diet would do much to reverse this physiological metamorphosis.


  24. Georgie Porgie

    The medical literature does not support your premise because it states unequivocally, that such a diet is counterproductive for a young person who hasn’t reach full physical maturation.

  25. millertheanunnaki Avatar

    @ Dompey | November 14, 2014 at 10:44 PM |
    “Thanks for that piece of information regarding B12, it was quite informative, now send it to Pachamam because he is the one pushing the Vegan Diet and decaying the consumption of animal product”

    Dompey, what do you mean by “decaying the consumption of animal product”?

    Are you referring to the tonnes of old sheep and cattle carcasses imported from New Zealand and other places laced with formaldehyde and stored on ice for more than 6 months thereby spiking up the cancer rates and other NCDs among Bajans?


  26. Miller

    Probably so…….. but let’s dismiss the belief that cancer is caused merely by the consumption of animal products. My grandmother eat sheep and cattle carcasses stored on ice for over a year before it reached Barbados, and she passed away at the good old age of a 102 from natural causes.


  27. Listen, I was a struggling vegetarian for five and I can tell you unambiguously, that once you have consumed animal products in the past, that it is highly unlikely that you would be able to sustaining a vegetarian diet for an extended period of time.


  28. Thanks Pat, the page was inadvertently dropped.


  29. @ Dompey
    My grandmother eat sheep and cattle carcasses stored on ice for over a year before it reached Barbados, and she passed away at the good old age of a 102 from natural causes.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++
    ………but Miller was probably talking about normal people…


  30. Miller

    I am all for the right kind of diet which sustains optimal health, but if you’re on a Vegan Diet and you consume loads of Sugar and Salt what difference would it really make. Some people are on these Diets with the misconception in mind that their would never get Cancer, or that the Vegan Diet and other such Diets prevents Cancer, when the medical literature at present militates otherwise. Yes, the Vegan Diet will prevent certain forms of Cancer, but one has to bear in mind that Cancer origins from biological as well as environmental factors. And Pat one does not have to attend medical school to give an unqualified opinion on any particular health concerns, for God sake, the literature is in the doctor’s offices, libraries and even on the internet if you trust such source of information. We have to change the thinking of the Native Barbadians, but it appears as though that some of you all sit around and await those persons with academics credential to counsel some of you. I would not put that amount of trust in no one person’s hands especially, when it concerns my personal health. I have always been a conscientious person who relies on several sources before I make any decision. You have to read read, and study, study, to build your knowledge base, and I have done too much of that during my ealier years.


  31. Bush Tea

    The contemporary usage of the word “Probably” means to: almost, or likely to be the case. Which means that your failing attempt to interpret or extrapolate what Miller meant, leaves you out there swinging helplessly on a thin limb holding on for dear life. Oh Bushie, you really don’t know how to tek yaa little lumps long side yaa head and goin yaa little corner and keep yaa mout shut.


  32. BUSH TEA

    And finally Bushie, just to inform your understanding for a brief moment: the concept of “(Normality)” has much to do with one’s worldview because it was quite Normal in Nazi Germany, to roast Jews in the crematorium.


  33. @Dompey

    tanks for de advice. I suppose it is my fault i not as smart as you becuz in, when I should a be in the village one room school, i wuz having fun dancing tuh Bromley in Belleplaine. Boy, those were de days, music sweet fuh so. At udder times I used to hide under the pilgrim holiness church till lunch time den go home in eat and den spen the nudder two hours talking to the people by de pipe who used to wash dem clothes dere and hing dem out tuh dry.


  34. Me madda tell me aa bout dem days when wunnuh used taa slapped some cooking oil pun wunnuh too foot, and gaa long taa shool bare foot true de mud.

    Looka hare gal pat, maa mudda was born in Belleplaine St. Andraw girl child. Gal you know de Fenty’s and de Maycock’s up there so child, me madda family.


  35. @ Dompey
    “probably” simply means that …..if there is ANY chance that your grandmother passed her genes on to you, then from what we know of you, there is a good chance (probability) that she may ALSO have been a freak…

    No doubt, you too will live long….people such as yourself are highly prized and very much needed ……in order to f%$# up this world of ours …(frig 🙂 )


  36. Bush tea

    Bushie, you ceases to amaze me brother man, but I’ll continue to pour knowledge down your throat .Listen! What you consider as normal has been ingrained in your conscience by an inherited world system and your cultural ethos. It was normal forty years ago for a teacher to beat the living crap out of an innocent child who may have had an intellectual disability. It is normal for some men in the Middle East to have more than one wife, a practice which is seen as abnormal by a Western standard. So Bushie, do not compare your standard of normality to mine because I could easily said that your behavior here on BU is quite abnormal to me. Now, as I have said above: the idea of normality is predicated upon one’s way of viewing reality. Because someone fails to think as the majority do, s/he is somehow abnormal; maybe S/he is advancing a new archetype, a new orthodoxy and a paradimatic shift in conventional way of viewing reality?


  37. image

    Click image or HERE to view presentation Diet and Health with the compliments of Dr. GP.


  38. Vegan Pumpkin Fritters!

    Vegan Pumpkin Fritters! Yum Yum!!!!!


  39. THEY CERTAINLY LOOK GOOD!


  40. @ GP

    Doc, I can only agree wholeheartedly with you because of my personal experience re diet.

    A few months ago it bothered me that I was gaining a bit too much weight (especially around the waist). At 5′ 10″ I shot up to 214 lbs.
    At that point I decided to try to drop some of that off. I started visiting the vegetable co-op in St. George every Saturday and buying whatsoever ground provision and vegetables that were available that day and started having them for my main meal during the week. I also drastically reduced using cow’s milk from PHD, salt and sugar (soft drinks) and instead of having a cold drink with my meals I took a hot drink instead eg. gingerlhoney tea. I also reduced all meats (poultry, beef etc.). I am happy to say that I eventually dropped to 170 lbs and am maintaining that level for the last 2-3 months. No more “pot-gut” anymore BTW!


  41. @bushtea

    Can you decifer for me just what dopey domps is trying to tell ypu in the statement below?

    quote from domps: “Bushie, you ceases to amaze me brother man,”


  42. @BT

    Sorry that should have been spelt “decipher”. I must be catching a virus from domps with his american habot of misspelling words


  43. This is specially for the dompey domps. Check out this site.

    http://theoatmeal.com/comics/misspelling


  44. De hood, can I drop my two cents in if you do not mine? A man your age should never start that kind of a dietary-regiment without first consulting your physician, especially if you have preexisting medical necessities. Because you’re not quite sure of the long term effects of such a regiment, but what do I know, PG has all the brains? lol


  45. HOODIE
    BALAAM’S ASS IS WORSE THAN CCC


  46. De hood

    Are your aware of the fact that there is a fundamental difference between American and English spelling? For example:

    Color
    Colour
    Endeavour
    Endeavor
    Favor
    Favour
    Check
    Cheque


  47. hoodie
    you have done well BRAVO!
    JUST BE CAREFUL OF YOUR REGIMENT! if you do not mine? LOL MURDAH


  48. De hood

    Now let’s see the misspelled words sir?


  49. De Hood

    You have been barking off about my spelling from yesterday, and you have as yet given me an example of what you’re referring to sir. Haven’t you any credibility or integrity sir?

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