The following comment inspired the blogmaster to expand the focus on data collection and discussion about the COVID 19 pandemic. Thanks to @Lyall@Amit

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David; re. your 4:41 am post;

You are correct but I have indeed considered that cohort of the population.

The reason that the US experts are beating the drum for testing, testing and more testing is to get a handle on what proportion of the general public has been compromised by the virus in any way and has left its signatures in body fluids including blood in the population. The virus is shed from the infected body as the disease is brought under control. When it is controlled it has been found that it takes around 7 days for all particles to be shed from the body. Infected persons are released back into the community when they test negative twice over a period of 2 days.

Barbados, like all of our island neighbours, did or does not have access to large numbers of tests and had to use what we had very sparingly. Thus, the only measure that we had for gauging the incidence of the virus in the population (and a very imperfect one, at that) might be by comparing the evidence of infection levels hinted at by a comparison of the graphs of the progress of the various Covid-19 outbreaks in our Islands.

Most of the world was in the same position as the Caribbean and used the data obtained by the minimal testing of infected people and their contacts and their contacts to produce the graphs we see on such sites as WHO and Worldometer etc. All these graphs give an imperfect picture and significant underestimation of infection levels in the county or country in which the tests are carried out, but, since they are carried out in the same way in each country they might provide some rationale for guesstimating the comparative levels of the infection in various groups of countries.

The data shows that, starting out at essentially the same levels, there was some divergence in relation to the rate of infection and therefore progress of the various outbreaks in various countries. The graphs for Barbados showed low and declining levels of infection from the beginning, peaking at the level of 13 positive cases per day and thereafter showing a slowly declining trend. The individuals who would have contributed to the declining trend would have been primarily from the contact testing but should also have included other individuals referred by Health professionals or who presented themselves to Government institutions because of concern that their symptoms might point to untimely death due to the dread Covid-19.

Amit, in an earlier post on this blog, reported on his initiative of graphing Covid-19 incidence over weekly periods throughout the epidemic, in several Caribbean Islands. If David thinks it is appropriate and Amit agrees I can post a subset of graphs clipped from his data for 6 Caribbean territories which I think could illustrate some of what I have presented above.


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There was 1 more positive case announced today as well as 1 death. A slight uptick of the daily cases line is indicated in the graph by the blue line. The total cumulative number of positive cases from the tests carried out yesterday is 76 – Llyall Small

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Attached is the updated C-19 graph for 2020-04-23. There were no additional positive cases from yesterday’s tests and therefore cumulative positive cases remain at 76 – Lyall Small

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Two new positive cases were identified from yesterday’s tests. There are now 5 cases of contacts with a previously identified individual. The 5 cases are workers from a Government Institution. Tests are ongoing today (25 April 2020)Lyall Small

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Updated graph for 26 April 2020. No new +ve cases were found. Cumulative count is still 79 – Lyall Small

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There was one additional +ve case identified today (27 April 2020) from the last tranche of NAB workers moving the cumulative total cases to 80. The graph is still essentially trending downwards – Lyallsmall

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Graphing Covid-19 incidence in several Caribbean Islands – Source data: caribbeansignal.com

3,454 responses to “COVID 19 UPDATES”


  1. Canada and UK going to hell together in a handbasket, cases rising exponentially.

    Floods in BC Nov 14 to Dev 17

    UK??

    Non – stop from October …. like what happened to Brazil.

    So cases rising.

    Difficult to fault the logic its related to floods.

    In fact as GP might say, irrefutable!!!

    If you got eyes to see and ears to hear see and listen!!

    I’ll post what the two countries look like together so you can see cases taking off together.


  2. John;
    You still haven’t explained the pathway by which the virus gets to infect the large number of people who become infected in a spike, given that in a small country like Barbados flood waters normally dissipate and disappear after a few hours and occur in a few districts only. Soil drying out is an improvement on the thesis but it still does’nt quite cut it. How does the virus get into enough susceptible people’s noses and mouths to give rise to and maintain a surge from the relatively small numbers of virus particles that might be in flood waters? Could there be another currently unidentified major factor that provides or enhances one or more existing pathways and which results in short or long disease surges?

    Consider the recent Grenada surge which lasted for significantly less time than our current surge but which peaked higher than ours did and was leading ours in deaths during their outbreak. How long did the flooding that you associate with its causation last? What was the effect of the earlier Carnival on the outbreak, especially since a significant number of people did not follow the protocols? Did Grenada’s topography lead to a quicker drying out of the soil? What were the representative surface areas that were flooded? Yuh certain that the putative virus particles generated could remain viable for any significant period of time? Could sunlight hours be a factor? Could temperature be a factor? Could there be intrinsic host immunity factors such as the one Dr GP suggested for the South Africa situation? Could host age be a factor? Are there different co-morbidity factors here and there that could influence the rise and fall of the two surges? How about Adherence to the protocols? How about treatment regimes? etc. etc. etc.


  3. Eighty-one people – 41 males and 40 females – tested positive for coronavirus (COVID-19) on Tuesday, December 21, from the 1 156 tests conducted by the Best-dos Santos Public Health Laboratory.

    https://www.nationnews.com/2021/12/22/81-new-virus-cases/


  4. lyallsmallDecember 22, 2021 4:58 PM

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Simple Lyall.

    Positive feedback.

    Lets agree the desal plant is the issue.

    Let’s agree with the MOH that most of the cases are in the Southern Corridor which will include the catchment area around the desal plant.

    The floods as we see them happen for a short time above ground but only because the ground below is saturated.

    Once the flood waters subside the ground is still saturated.

    This water makes its way to the sea by what ever means necessary.

    It takes time to hit the desal plant intake but once it does the infections begin.

    Remember, the host sheds the virus a week before symptoms appear through their bowels.

    This gets into the ground which is slowly drying out and makes its way to the input of the desal plant.

    More infections follow.

    Positive feedback.

    The cycle is broken only when the path from the ground to the intake of the sewage plant becomes too dry for the wastewater/sewage to get to the intake of the desal plant in a time which exceeds the survival time of the virus in wastewater/sewage which can be as much as 35 days, 7 weeks.

    The infections tail off as less and less of the virus reaches the desal plant.

    Grenada as you point out is a different mechanism and that’s why the characteristic curve peaked higher and lasted shorter than Barbados.

    Take a look at Dominica!!


  5. The Belle, Hampton, Newmarket and Codrington all have Zone 1 protection.

    That means that for 80% of our water it takes 2-300 days for water outside of the zone to reach the intakes.

    The virus can’t survive that long.

    So 80% of our water is protected absolutely from the virus.

    That’s why our peaks of new cases are so small less than 20 % is all that may be impacted.

    That’s how I know it has to be the desal plant.

    The solution is real simple, lock off the desal plant after a flood for 2 months and let the virus become impotent in the water.

    The only way we can eradicate it here is if other countries find solutions to dealing with their water supplies.

    But even if it comes in airborne, once we have the protocols in place to deal with our water the numbers will be small.


  6. Sewering the area around the desal plant would be a top priority for the GOB if it does not want to lock off the desal plant.

    Proper wastewater disposal would then be a priority and for God’s sake, do a better job than was done with the South Coast Sewerage Project.

    Can you imagine if we still had sewerage floating around on the South Coast?!!


  7. Every country is different because every country has a different geology or geography.

    Each curve is characteristic to the country which produces it.


  8. It is a puzzle but I love puzzles.


  9. I’ll show you another nice one too!!

    In London, there is an area where fewer than 5% of the population have had COVID and 32.5% are not vaccinated.

    My explanation would be the water is not contaminated!!

    So people who decided not to be vaccinated are cool, and those who did get vaccinated, well, they are just a number.

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/medical/i-don-t-need-the-covid-vaccine-god-protects-me-from-the-virus/ar-AAS4s3s?ocid=winp1taskbar

    Find out where it gets its water from and Bob’s your uncle!!


  10. It is just a 30-second walk from Acre Lane in Brixton – newly revealed as having Britain’s highest rate of coronavirus infection.

    A remarkable 5 per cent of residents have the virus. And the high level is partly explained by the 32.4 per cent of locals who remain unvaccinated, unmoved in the face of public entreaties.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Now are you understanding how it works?

  11. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @LyallS, you asked ‘AquaJohn’ several questions and as you know the Dr. GP says I can’t understand this high level science stuff.

    So I asked my bright relative who is an A student (3.9 gpa) and starting college to study engineering related work to read your queries and the responses … but she asked me more questions … so do explain (or AquaJohn):

    Why would a desal plant with its elaborate salt/impurities removal mechanisms and further complex filtration/purification methods be a big source of a coronavirus in our drinking water system???

    I suggested to her that it made no sense to me that such would be the case and surmised that the various processes at the plant would at minimum weaken the corona particles significantly even if purification didn’t kill it.

    I also suggested to her that any such plant would have detailed final testing standards to ensure the water was healthy.

    So help me and her understand how your detailed queries could be funneled into that single answer from your fellow scientist, just so.

    Or is this one elaborate joke on his part!


  12. The answer is even simpler and I gave it already but it must have flown over your head as GP often remarks.

    No water treatment plant removes all impurities from water but the output must meet AT LEAST the SDWA levels or those imposed by WHO.

    Ask your student what level of viruses is acceptable for a water treatment plant to remove!!

    ELABORATE DOES NOT MEAN PERFECT!!!

    Doesn’t get much soimpler!!


  13. GP sure is a good judge of aptitude!!


  14. OK John
    OK!; Let us agree, for the sake of the discussion only, that the Desal Plant is the Issue.

    If so, it should be fairly easy to get the relevant Government agencies to treat the matter with the urgency it deserves and either facilitate or do the tests that are absolutely essential to prove or disprove your thesis in a professional, scientific and confidential manner. I think that a comprehensive study could be developed and implemented in less than a month. That study could clear up all the issues you have raised re. water and the Covid-19 surges over the last year or so.

    Why yuh do’n talk wid some of your former associates at UWI?
    Why yuh do’n talk wid Busy Williams and wid de current principals of the Desal Plant?
    Why yuh do’n talk wid de Government’s Chief Technical Officers responsible for Water, Covid-19 testing; etc?

    Of course, If you are correct and the new information resulting from the above approach leads to your thesis being comprehensively found to be essentially correct, then You would have made a very substantial contribution to solving a problem of worldwide importance. You are obviously committed to your hypothesis. That committment seems to me to be deserving of your going the extra mile to prove it.


  15. dPD;

    I didn’t read your query above before I posted my last one. Have to do some chores now but will get back to you soon.


  16. Lyall

    I’ve been to de head.

    How you know dey didn’t lock off de cock?


  17. Now, London and Acre Lane

    Where is Hal Austin when you need him?

    Anyway, I’ll use Google Earth.

    So, we know that Muslim males die at a rate 2-3 times that of Christians and Atheists.

    So, if we were to query Google Earth for Mosques near to Acre Lane and compare it with the location of the Universal Pentecostal Church, what do you think we should get?

    https://imgur.com/a9gnszc


  18. Turn round and wander back towards Brixton, with its railway and Tube station and the Ritzy cinema, and you come to Acre Lane’s Universal Pentecostal Church.

    Most of its worshippers are of African or West Indian descent, reflecting a large portion of Brixton’s population since the Windrush Generation started arriving more than 70 years ago.

    Its pastor, who declines to give his name, insists he does not share such conspiracy theories, and assures the Daily Mail he does not tell his parishioners whether to have the jab or not.

    Yet despite being 80 – so in a high-risk age group – he has not been vaccinated, let alone had the booster offered just across the road. The reason? He trusts in God to keep him safe. The senior Pentecostal churchman said yesterday: ‘We don’t tell people what to do – we let them choose.

    ‘But we also pray for people, and we tell them to keep out of sinful ways. God tells us in the bible “Let them trust me and I will preserve them”.

    ‘We believe God has the power to protect us.

    ‘There’s no need for me to have the vaccine. And people are getting the virus after the vaccine – people have died also.

    ‘I live my life by the word of God. So far it’s protected me from the virus.’

    Believing that prayer and faith can keep you safe from the virus is clearly not much of an encouragement to get vaccinated.


  19. The area around the Universal Pentecostal Church may be fed from a different water source!!

    That may be simple pragmatic explanation.

    If you live in an area where many of your neighbours are coming down with COVID you are going to do exactly as you are told.

    If you live in an area where few if any of your neighbours are coming down with COVID, you feel kind of special even if you don’t know precisely why!!

    Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition.


  20. These three countries are worth a watch.

    All are heading up at the same time … floods.

    Each of the three will reach a maximum and then fall once there are no more floods .

    The time to recover may be different for all three and the peaks as well but each of them will have a characteristic curve.

    https://imgur.com/p9UQL3Q

  21. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
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    @LyallS… I’ll await your update …

    @John, I am more lost than evrr … so indeed the doc was ‘aptitudnally’ correct re my comprehension.

    What does it mean that “No water treatment plant removes all impurities from water but the output must meet AT LEAST the SDWA levels or those imposed by WHO.”

    Aren’t those standards required to meet ACCEPTABLE health requirements… period.

    According to you this virus is completely going undetected (or untested) despite the SIMPLE fact that the ‘putative virus particles generated’ (learned those words from @LyallS) are known risks that would NOT be accepted for potable water and are not likely to “remain viable for any significant period of time” (again taken from your fellow scientist) as they go through the treatment process at the plant!

    You are turning everything understood about water treatment on its head to establish your thesis.

    Your fellow doc friend … does state that we cannot disprove your thesis but the converse is that you ABSOLUTELY cannot disprove the argument that you are talking hoocum nonsense with no merit, either.

    You were the lecturer so please tell my relative student … why there would be any acceptable level of coronovirus particles for a water treatment plant NOT to remove and make people sick!!

    SMH!


  22. The authorities that promulgate Drinking Water Standards have never dealt with a virus like COVID.

    So there is no body of knowledge available so no limit on how much is allowable.

    If it turns out ZERO is the only acceptable level then we simply won’t get any water form treatment plants.!!

    Not really, they will just have to figure out how to get to ZERO!!

    One way might be to replicate the Zoning that exists in Barbados and ensure a very long time of travel to the extraction point.


  23. How about dousing water supplies with Clorox and spotting a constant UV beam? That should do it.


  24. Baby Steps, ok!!!

    SDWA = Safe Drinking Water Act

    Here’s how the authorities (EPA) determine which contaminants are regulated.

    https://www.epa.gov/sdwa/how-epa-regulates-drinking-water-contaminants

    Here is the timeline over which the EPA developed regulations for the 90 contaminants it regulates … back in 2015.

    https://www.epa.gov/sites/default/files/2015-10/documents/dw_regulation_timeline.pdf

    “Turbidity is a measure of cloudiness in water that indicates the presence of disease-causing microbes. Higher turbidity levels are often associated with higher levels of disease-causing microorganisms such as viruses, parasites and some bacteria”


  25. Interestingly, Bowmanston has been routinely shutdown almost every wet season because after heavy rainfall turbidity is seen in the water.

    ie, what’s on the ground ends up 257 feet below ground in the underground stream passing through the cave.


  26. OOPS, 269 feet, been almost 30 years since I went down in the bucket.

    Tempus fugit.


  27. Some of the catchment area around the desal plant is 40 feet above sea level.

    Sheet water is thus a mere 40 feet below households and that is the source of the brackish water!!


  28. DavidDecember 23, 2021 2:47 AM

    West Indies-England matches will require fans to be fully vaccinated | The Cricketer

    https://www.thecricketer.com/Topics/international/fans_will_need_to_be_fully_vaccinated_to_get_into_west_indies-england_matches.html

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    So who is going to go and watch WI play England?

    More likely the Brits will be there in force to watch their guys nail us once again.

    Only way they are getting to Barbados and that is if they are vaccinated.

    The days of the WI fielding world class players who are world beaters are long gone.

    Would be great to be wrong and yes, I will keep an eye on the scores on Cricinfo.

  29. Critical Analyzer Avatar
    Critical Analyzer

    It looks like Omicron is the variant to overtake Delta end the pandemic, getting us to herd immunity. Let’s see how long it will take the fearmonger public health officials to acknowledge this.


  30. @CA

    Do we know enough about the wane factor?


  31. John; You said above Lyall; I’ve been to de head. How you know dey didn’t lock off de cock?,

    Two very interesting statements!

    Taken at face value you’ve discussed the issue with the top person at the Desal plant and you expect that action would have been taken, perhaps even to the extent of temporary shutting down the plant.

    My understanding is that the desal plant serves the area where I live through the feed to Millenium heights so I would have expected that there would have been some official announcement of the shutdown or at least some observable effect such as a significant uptick in water outages if it had been shut down. There were no outages that I’m aware of outside the normal ones. So the Desal plant probably was not shut down.

    If you spoke to the head and there was no resultant shutdown and no Covid-19 cases following or during the floods in an area served directly by Desal water, then it seems quite likely that the Desal plant head thought that there was no merit in your hypothesis. QED!


  32. I would like to commission a poll on John’s 🐇/🐰 theory using a water scale
    Drinking water🚰
    Rain water🌧️
    Flood water
    Waster water
    Sewage


  33. lyallsmallDecember 23, 2021 10:41 AM

    My understanding is that the desal plant serves the area where I live through the feed to Millenium heights so I would have expected that there would have been some official announcement of the shutdown or at least some observable effect such as a significant uptick in water outages if it had been shut down. There were no outages that I’m aware of outside the normal ones. So the Desal plant probably was not shut down.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    You don’t understand how it works.

    You are fed from multiple sources including if your understanding is right the desal plant.

    You need to get to the reservoir that feeds where you live and find out how many sources supply that reservoir and in what proportion.

    That’s why we have such relatively low COVID numbers.

    I’ll see if I can dig up the spreadsheet from the 1978 Water Resources Study and show you how it was done back then.

    Once you see the numbers it should become clearer to you.

    It is quite possible to keep the reservoir levels good enough to feed you with one of the sources out of action …. once it isn’t Belle!!


  34. These were the projections for 1985 to 2000 for supplying the then (1978) 16 distribution areas in Barbados.

    Porters had not been used and had 2 million gallons per day available and it was projected to come into service to supply the demand.

    The then BLP blew that by allocating it to Golf at Westmoreland.

    I am hearing that Trents pumping station is out as well and I would expect so because the pod that was made at Farmers to supply Apes Hill will remove the only area in the Trents catchment that actually produces water in the dry season.

    By doing so the design yield of the pump at Trents is automatically screwed up and it can only draw salt water in the dry season.

    Other reservoirs have been built since then and the desal plant added but we really screwed ourselves where water is concerned by the golf giveaways.

    https://imgur.com/yCJgKPI


  35. TheOGazertsDecember 23, 2021 10:53 AM

    I would like to commission a poll on John’s 🐇/🐰 theory using a water scale
    Drinking water🚰
    Rain water🌧️
    Flood water
    Waster water
    Sewage

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    You better find someones who actually are able to understand what John is talking about.

    You don’t seem to realise that Rain Water is vastly superior in quality to Drinking Water and Drinking Water in Barbados is actually treated Ground Water which is made up among other things of Floodwater, Wastewater and Sewage.


  36. Omicron up to 70% less likely to need hospital care

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59769969


  37. Was going for the joke but “Drinking Water in Barbados is actually treated Ground Water which is made up among other things of Floodwater, Wastewater and Sewage” is the point that has been made several times.

    Drinking water is quite different from wastewater, flood water or waste.


  38. Up again

    ” The Best-dos Santos Public Health Laboratory recorded 97 new coronavirus (COVID-19 cases) – 46 males and 51 females – on Wednesday, December 22, from the 1 082 tests conducted.”

    https://www.nationnews.com/2021/12/23/97-new-virus-cases/


  39. So wha happen to de heard immunity theory I herd about ?


  40. HantsDecember 23, 2021 9:17 PM

    So wha happen to de heard immunity theory I herd about ?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Only works in text book theoretical epidemics/pandemics.

    De Water pelts all de theories out de windows which is what we should do wiff de experts.

    BC rising, I reckon it will probably overtake Ontario soon.

    Israel showing signs of rising too.


  41. TheOGazertsDecember 23, 2021 1:56 PM

    Was going for the joke but “Drinking Water in Barbados is actually treated Ground Water which is made up among other things of Floodwater, Wastewater and Sewage” is the point that has been made several times.

    Drinking water is quite different from wastewater, flood water or waste.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    It’s also quite different from sea water but it comes from the sea!!


  42. … you knew dat … right?


  43. Florida cases rising again.

    That means about a month ago there were floods in Florida!!

    Here are the numbers.

    https://imgur.com/HGyZ6Rd

    … and here are the floods.

    https://www.clickorlando.com/video/news/2021/11/06/friday-flooding-across-central-florida/

    This getting real easy!!


  44. … like falling off a log.

    Peak in Florida cases expected mid February so a problem for the next 3- 4 months as usual!!

    https://www.local10.com/news/florida/2021/12/22/florida-covid-surge-expected-to-peak-in-february-study-says/


  45. BC will break its own records later on today once again!!!

    I can guarantee you that unless they do something imaginative with the numbers like not reporting them!!

    You just need to think back 4 weeks or so to what floods happened in your neck of the woods.

    Can’t have been very significant as it would be easy to see online.

    Which suggests it was on a small scale but obviously hitting Ontario where it hurts most.

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