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The video below captures a little boy – reportedly 4 years old – assisting his father on public service vehicle. There is the expected divide in opinion from various segments of the community, it is a polarized world after all where matters that should be deemed wrong or inappropriate are confused by a people who give priority to grey above black and white.

See the video.

The two main arguments offered to what portrayed in the video, 1. there is benefit to exposing the young boy to the world of business, 2. the environment is not suited, some advocates liken it to child labour.

Here is the opinion of businessman and social commentator Andrew Bynoe which appears in today’s Nation newspaper:

Look at core element of father’s alleged action

THE CORE ELEMENT of the four-year old child allegedly conducting on his father’s passenger van must not be shrouded in the surrounding aspects of his father’s reactionary behaviour to those who wanted to shame him. Here is an entrepreneur who wants to teach his son about the business. This is the core.

My father had cows, goats, sheep and, of course, pigs. At four years old, I was cleaning down pens, milking all except the pigs, feeding them and doing what a lil boy could do. It was around that age that I was despatching in a one-door shop.

According to those devout advocates who cannot distinguish what is child labour, my parents should have been taken to court, prosecuted and locked up. I should have been locked up too, for as babies my son and daughter were taken to AOne Supermarket in their reed baskets from where they watched on. At four years old, they were pushing customer trolleys back to the trolley station.

How holier than thou we have become.

– ANDREW BYNOE

A lowly blogmaster’s opinion about the matter is captured in the old adage, ‘manners maketh man‘.


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108 responses to “Minibus hustle, all for one, one for all”


  1. Little boy has pure admiration for his daddy, and wants to be just like him when he grows up. I don’t know the daddy, so I can’t say if daddy is a good mentor for his son.


  2. I used to work in a Swan Street on Saturdays and during school vacations, from age 13 until 18. Sundays were reserved for cleaning the store and replenishing stock. The owner would ask me to work after school, whenever one of the regular guys went on vacation. Perhaps this was considered to be child labour, but, I did not depend on parents to finance school related expenses. A four year old child allegedly conducting on a ZR has become a cause for concern, perhaps because of the ‘PSV culture.’ However, I seen young Indian boys conducting on ZRs as well, to which people reacted with words of admiration.


  3. The closest thing to REAL MEN in Brassbados are ZR workers.

    These are the ONLY males in this place who stand up for what they believe, who fart on the authorities when the do shiite, and who even ignore the misguided albino-centric public opinion of brainwashed Bajan lackies.

    Now, if that driver had left his four-year-old at home alone – while he and the mother tried to make a living to pay the lotta shiite taxes imposed by the government (and to avoid having their house sold by the women at BRA)…
    He would be the worse man on earth…

    Conversely…
    If one of the shiite lawyers had taken their 4-yr-old to court with them – and expose them to the corruption and filth there, NOT A BOY would record it, and if they did, it would NOT cause complaints from the usual jokers in charge bout here…

    What a damned place…

    If Bushie was not a bushman, he would be a ZR driver for sure….


  4. David, seems as though it has become the norm for you to preface articles articulating any matter of public concern, with photos of ministers. In all fairness, shouldn’t you have included, for example, a photo of the Alliance Owners of Public Transportation (AOPT) chairman, Roy Raphael? Surely what you’ve highlighted in the article should be of concern to those organisations representing PSV owners and operators.


  5. @Artax

    You were happy with how the father directed his son in the exchanges captured? Is his intervention at the heart of concerns being expressed?

    You your inquiry, who is responsible for leading and regulating the sector? What about an ineffective Transport Authority? No, the lack of political backbone and well known corruption is mainly responsible.

    #askglineclarke
    #askgeorgepayne


  6. I am not concerned about the little boy working. He seemed quite enthusiastic. I am concerned about the environment.

    But, I guess the child was going to hear that DJ at home anyway.

    Don’t know what can be done about that.


  7. As a responsible society we must guard public spaces, set an example as a collective. Why do we have public morality laws etc.


  8. IF A FATHER DOES NOT TEACH HIS SON TO WORK HOW WILL THE LAD LEARN TO WORK? AND WHO WILL TEACH HIM?

    THE BOY IS WORKING WITH, AND FOR HIS FATHER.

    HOW CAN THAT BE WRONG.?

    THE MAN IS NOT TEACHING HIS SON TO STEAL, BUT HE IS TEACHING HIM THE VALUE OF WORK

    HOW CAN THAT BE WRONG.?


  9. @Artax

    As one informed about the transport sector, why is it taking weeks for the head of the transport authority to meet with the PSV sector? Why must they threaten strike action?


  10. The adverse comment is not about teaching his son to work, it is the lack of proper direction by a father to his son. Why must we conflate these issues. We can applaud a father for exposing his son to a work environment while at the same time admonishing hignorance.


  11. Boss
    Have you listened to the modern DJs on the PUBLIC radio stations recently?
    The ONLY difference in filth is that the may bleep a few words here and there… as if this does ANYTHING to protect the innocence of youth…
    The WHOLE PLACE is a nasty pit…

    Parliamentarians have been on record telling each other about their mothers private possessions… and these have been PROMOTED to senior status…
    Ministers have PULLED GUNS on other members in hallowed places… with no consequences..

    What the HELL do you want a lowly ZR driver to do… create heaven in HELL?

    The problem is NOT the ZR culture…
    It is the LACK of national culture due to LACK of leadership…

    …which is due to the fact that the REAL LEADERS in this society are on the blocks and in the ZRs, while the effeminate lackies promoted by the warped albino-centric eddykashun system, are fumbling above their competency levels with the challenges of leadership.

    What a curse!!


  12. @Bush Tea

    What are you saying? Please be clear. There should be no moral minimum that some of us should be advocating for?


  13. Coming back to you Artax. What is the public position of the three ministers captioned? Do we know? This is part of the problem.


  14. NO….
    Take the beam out of our damn eyes BEFORE condemning the splinter in the ZR driver’s….


  15. Wuhloss!!! All the people who were working when they were 4 years old coming out the woodwork in support of a man who had his 4-year-old working on his ZR. These are the same people who were busy condemning ZR culture and said that they were no place for their teenage schoolchildren, this place is a hotbed of twisted thinking.

    Now all together “How de yutes get so”?


  16. @Bush Tea

    Then around the mulberry bush we will go given our imperfections.


  17. @ David

    RE: #askglineclarke
    #askgeorgepayne

    I asked a simple question based on my observations.

    You mentioned Clarke and Payne, but not John Boyce and Michael Lashley.
    Was this as a result of convenient or intentional ‘loss of memory?’

    RE: “As one informed about the transport sector, why is it taking weeks for the head of the transport authority to meet with the PSV sector? Why must they threaten strike action?”

    You’ve directed your question to the WRONG INDIVIDUAL.
    I NEVER gave you the impression I’m “informed about the transport sector.”
    Perhaps you should post an article on THAT issue, and preface it with photos of Santia Bradshaw, Colin Jordan and Toni Moore?

    RE: “Coming back to you Artax. What is the public position of the three ministers captioned? Do we know? This is part of the problem.”

    Again, I CANNOT answer your question.

    I simply ‘ASKED’ that, IN ALL FAIRNESS, since the issue raised on this thread should also CONCERN the representative organisations of the PSV sector, why couldn’t you have also INCLUDED a PHOTO of AOPT’s Chairman, Roy Raphael?


  18. Sarge, I just signed on and I see you have beaten me to it. Anyhow …
    —-x—
    I begin with a word of prayer … Father, don’t forgive them for they know what they do.

    Once again, I am amazed and amused at the hypocrisy displayed by Bajans. Here we see a young man receiving an advance course in ‘cussing’, showing disrespect and abusing customers and are being told he is receiving training in conducting business and working hard.

    For the guys who had ‘cows, goats, sheep and, of course, pigs’ give me one example of when the cows dropped the F bomb or to tell you to ‘carry your RH’. For the guy who traveled on the ZR and watched young Indians at work, were you subjected to abuse and disrespect? Do you think the adult Indian train his children in that manner.

    I cannot understand how (to quote Sarge) “people who were busy condemning ZR culture and said that they were no place for their teenage schoolchildren” can believe that this young man is receiving proper business training. Do you think that if he becomes a ZR driver, he will be polite to his customers.

    I am RH and stop talking shit; that ZR (as it is) is not the right environment for the kid.


  19. ” He has also agreed not to return to work until the matter has been investigated by the Child Care Board. ”

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2023/12/21/father-says-he-had-no-one-to-keep-his-son-while-he-drove-psv/


  20. above, last sentence.
    I am= Carry your
    –x—
    Excellent comment here by the blogmaster
    “The adverse comment is not about teaching his son to work, it is the lack of proper direction by a father to his son. Why must we conflate these issues. We can applaud a father for exposing his son to a work environment while at the same time admonishing hignorance.”


  21. Any family business involves its children in the business.

    I was driving a tractor from the time my feet could reach the pedals.


  22. A week before Christmas day and a father stop working.

    Hope one of the ministers will take some food and toys for the little boy.

    Maybe some of the BU loggers will make the little boy happy for Christmas.


  23. @Artax

    The mentioning of those names were deliberate because of what is known to this blogmaster.


  24. @Rabbit
    We all agree that having children participate in a family business is a positive act.

    What type of behaviors were you exposed to as your feet barely touched the pedal. I believe most Bajans would applaud the father for trying to instill good work ethic the young boy, what we are against is the young lad on the job exposure to the full adult Bajan vocabulary.


  25. So it would be OK for the father to take his son along with him, if they were singing hymns and holding prayers on the ZR?

    BUT since THIS ZR was exactly like every other one bout here….
    and like Every fete that is held in most communities on weekends..
    and like much of the ‘music played on the PUBLIC radio by most young DJs..
    …and like the GENERAL crude conversations held by 95% of schoolchildren….

    There is a call to action on the driver/father/ Bushie (for not condemning him??!!)…?

    Wunna people are SO BLIND that it IS actually funny…

    Using that logic the father has to keep the son out of school, the playground, the city, … shiite – EVEN off B.U. 🙂

    But Sargeant can probably cast the first stone…
    Bushie KNOWS him to have been a damn scamp back in his day… (and not much better now)… only currently hemmed in by the albino-centric RULES that are imposed on his donkey by ‘the man’ in Albino-land.
    ..as for Theo, he can’t pelt straight any damn how, so it matters not if he joins Sargeant or just talk …

    Bushie’s advice to the Driver…
    ‘Go…and sin no more…’ , BUT first, ..tell the mob that is calling for your head to ‘HAUL….their BBs’

  26. a mature and serious advanced 4 year old Avatar
    a mature and serious advanced 4 year old

    He’s a mature serious and advanced 4 year old which is quite impressive
    kids become used to rude lewd song lyrics which lose impact to offend
    the music just goes in one ear and out the other so it’s no big deal


  27. Grasshopper

    Loosen up.

    I don’t know if you remember the images of a child wukking up behind a woman more than 10 years ago.

    Barbados has gone to the dogs.

    That woman could very well have been Donna.

    https://barbadosunderground.net/2012/08/12/a-picture-sums-it-up/

    https://barbadosfreepress.wordpress.com/2012/08/16/grand-kadooment-child-sex-scandal-what-about-the-children-who-watched-and-the-adults-who-let-it-happen/


  28. When I was driving as a boy, that was 50-60 years ago.

    Barbados was alot cleaner and more disciplined back then.

    Today Barbados is alot more different.


  29. @Bush Tea

    You logic to sum it up in a few words is to go with the flow?


  30. PSV driver speaks out on viral video

    Embattled public service vehicle (PSV) driver Bernard Atkins says what’s good for the goose must be good for the gander.

    The man at the centre of controversy over his four-year-old son allegedly acting as a conductor on his van told the Weekend Nation yesterday if he was wrong, then he was not the only one.

    “To me, the bigger problem is who took a video of my son without my permission and put it on social media. I get my punishment but until I find out who did that, I haven’t got much more to say,” he said.

    Atkins, speaking from his home at Maxwell Hill, Christ Church, said the person who took the video and uploaded it to social media, in turn causing it to be spread it all over Barbados and beyond, should be charged with a crime.

    “The same way I get punish, something has to happen to them too,” he declared.

    The video showed the boy opening the PSV’s door to let people out, then getting back inside, pulling down a side seat and sticking his head out the window as the van drives off. Lewd lyrics could also be heard blaring from the music system. A caption along with the clip described the uploader’s shock at the expletives being used.

    Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Transport Santia Bradshaw, in a statement released on Sunday, praised the uploader.

    “In the event that the legitimacy of the video is established, I would like to be the first to publicly thank and applaud the person who recorded this and made it public. This is what citizenship of the republic of Barbados is all about. This is what we need for positive change to come about. We need to call out those who introduce and perpetrate behaviours foreign to our culture and upbringing,” she said then.

    Starcom Network

    reported on Wednesday that Atkins met with Bradshaw and officials from the Transport Authority. He offered an apology for the music and profanity heard on the video, but said his son was only pretending to conduct. He explained that he had no one to keep the child that day so he had no choice but to take him to work.

    Prohibited

    As a result, Atkins was prohibited from working a PSV until a probe by the Child Care Board (CCB) is completed. He also agreed to take part in the Transport Authority public service announcements on the implementation of new regulations.

    Yesterday, he said it was going to be a tough Christmas for him and his seven children.

    “I home now and can’t earn money for my family for Christmas. I wasn’t being negligent but they say the music was bad. All right, but isn’t it also bad when other people take their children to work and they running all ‘bout?

    “I don’t have nobody to help me with my children. A lot of people talking but no one coming with a ham and helping me feed them. Instead, they tell me I can’t work in order to satisfy the general public,” he lamented.

    In an interview yesterday, CCB director Roseann Richards told the Weekend Nation the investigation was not yet concluded as there were other parties to interview. She said the results would then be made known publicly but added, since it was a child and a family involved, the board had to be very careful about what information was disclosed.

    (CA)

    Source: Nation


  31. “As a result, Atkins was prohibited from working a PSV until a probe by the Child Care Board (CCB) is completed.”

    The next scam is the bloody minded overreach by the busies in Social Services and Family Courts who put children into care breaching basic rights of parents. Once caught in the shitstem you can never get out.


  32. In an interview yesterday, CCB director Roseann Richards told the Weekend Nation the investigation was not yet concluded as there were other parties to interview. She said the results would then be made known publicly but added, since it was a child and a family involved, the board had to be very careful about what information was disclosed.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Translated:

    We ain’t do one shiite yet. Um is christmus in case wunna don’t know.

    However dum got nuff ‘Board Meeting stipends’ in dis matter – so expect it to run well into the new year…
    Wuh we gotta interview all the other ZR passengers, ..PLUS David of BU for the prosecution, and Bushie as the defense advocate…

    Also wunna done know that the other political ‘yardies’ in the CCB gotta get some of the pickings too, so I have no idea when a final report can be produced.

    …but in ANY case doh!!
    don’t hold wunna breath, cause since a child is involve, we ain’t planning to release ANY meaningful report anyhow. (but we won’t say that publicly until we get our board stipends in hand – you KNOW how THAT goes!!)


  33. Your analysis here is quite good. However, your previous responses were not up to mark.

    “So it would be OK for the father to take his son along with him, if they were singing hymns and holding prayers on the ZR?”

    I suspect that given a choice, you too would board the ‘Christian’ ZR. Don’t use the escape clause ‘Bushie so damn rich, he wouldn’t use a ZR.

    My focus is on the language the disrespect and abuse of customers. I repeat, this is the worst level of training that the young man can be given.


  34. “As a result, Atkins was prohibited from working a PSV until a probe by the Child Care Board (CCB) is completed.”

    I disagree with this. The man should be allowed to work, but should have been told to find suitable child care … Don’t take your son to work.


  35. 😀 Do you remember when we use to talk of two or three Davids?

    Well I am back at that stage. The blogmaster is seeing the ball as if it is a breadfruit. On point and correct.

    Hopefully, the old David takes a longer Xmas holiday. Well done David2.
    😀


  36. TheO…
    Training is preparation for REALITY!
    If a child is already CONDEMNED to grow up in a shiite society, then you are doing him NO FAVOR by sending him to a ‘St Winifreds’ where they get to pretend holiness and sweetness’

    BTW
    Bushie DOES take the occasional ZR – but you would have to sit between the bass speakers to understand why… 🙂
    …Plus the Bajan language, wit, tempers and smells are unmatchable…

    It brings a bushman to understand why the original BushBoss used to lime with ‘refined’ fishermen and vagrants…

    So are you joining with the sergeant to pelt some rock stones at Bushie and de ZR driver too…?
    LOL ha ha ha

  37. parental ward of court Avatar
    parental ward of court

    There was a case in UK where social services took children away from their mother except for one girl who did not have her birth registered and the Government had no legal standing as a guardian or ward or parental ward of court. So the message here is don’t register your children’s birth to protect your parental rights, or the jobsworth will take them away.
    The Government owning your children like property and ‘allowing’ you to keep them unless a social worker says otherwise is another lingering legacy of slavery.

  38. Little David and the House of David Avatar
    Little David and the House of David

    “😀 Do you remember when we use to talk of two or three Davids?”

    Bush Tea stated that the ‘Other David’ he refers to is King David the shepherd boy who played the harp and defeated Goliath with a stone and a slingshot and became the third King and lived c. 1000 BCE. His firstborn son Solomon became next head of the House of David in the Solomonic Dynasty, which is the roots of the Conquering Lion of the Tribe of Judah, His Imperial Majesty Haile Selassie I, King of Kings, Lord of Lords, Elect of God. Christmas has been cancelled this year due to the fake Israelites from Europe bombing the Little Town of Bethlehem with the complicity of the Yankee Doodle Dandy Warmongers and their infamous illegal PNAC wars against muslims and people blessed with colour this century.

    ‘David of the Underground’ goes coy whenever this subject matter is raised and should officially confirm for the record if there is a team of David’s in the lab who monitor the underground 24/7/365, as they have become lazier and slow to release comments for those who have been on double secret probation for 365 days due to the snitches who are the bitches and break the first rule of the streets. No names are mentioned to protect the guilty


  39. @Bushy

    I could provide an attacking response, but it is the Xmas season and “Goodwill to all men”, I see you are still riding your Hobby horse, but aren’t you aware that Hobby horses never go any where?

    PS keep the lime and salt you never know when a detour may cause you to drive next to the Garrison.

    Merry Xmas


  40. @Bush Tea

    In a related matter we have retrenched BAMC employees complaining about not receiving holiday and pay in lieu of notice. Why the health should this situation have occurred? The relevant players knew the SOE was to be loved off?

    We have to be able to complete routine transactions without drama.

  41. Barbados Underground (@budavid) · X Avatar
    Barbados Underground (@budavid) · X

    “We have to be able to complete routine transactions without drama.”

    The average career lifetime of a typical budavid is approximately 18 months before they start suffering from PTSD symptoms for newbie rookie online moderators.
    So have a ❤️ and show some consideration when posting trying provocative annoying commentary on the underground.
    Prolonged and repeated exposure can be damaging. Moderators can develop vicarious trauma, with symptoms that include insomnia, anxiety, depression, panic attacks, crankiness and post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD).


  42. Dirty Johnny,

    What else can I call you after that remark?

    One dirty piece of work!


  43. David,

    I think that horse has long bolted. As I said, I don’t know what can be done to catch it.

    TheO,

    If you have the national remedy, please pass it on. Prevention is better than cure. I have been successful at prevention with the one for whom I am responsible. This national task would overwhelm me.

    P.S. There are minibus and zr drivers who offer great service and are very respectful of their passengers. Some help old ladies with their grocery bags, even as far as their door.

    Some play wonderful old love songs. I caught a minibus a few months ago. I would have hired that driver to DJ my sixtieth birthday party.

    Took me way back! By the time I reach I was stepping like a twenty year old.


  44. This musical debate reminds me of the politicians vs rap music palaver in the early 80’s during the beginning of the culture wars that killed rock music dead

    Criminal Justice and Public Order Acts
    There has been various shenanigans to specifically outlaw black music such as banning gatherings of over 20 people and music that includes sounds wholly or predominantly characterised by the emission of a succession of repetitive beats.

    I’m chllin’ like Bob Dylan
    I’m Elvis.. outta here.. peace

    https://www.routledge.com/blog/article/mtv-censorship-and-the-nsfw-music-video


  45. Donna
    on December 22, 2023 at 11:37 AM said:
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    Dirty Johnny,

    What else can I call you after that remark?

    One dirty piece of work!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The point is the child wukking up against the women with adults gawking in encouragement is a result of the crap society to which the country has devolved.

    That was 2012.

    In 1978 or thereabouts I seem to remember a popular crop over song with the words “pooch back and let your bumsie roll”

    I know for a fact that song was played c. 1978 at a church fair as I remember hearing about the protest that ensued from the older folk.

    The child in 2012 was doing the same thing the song with which the child’s parents were raised said to do.

    What probe needs to be done?

    Stop crop over and don’t waste money on crap songs designed to corrupt the society.

    Take the millions spent subsidizing crap out of the Government’s budget.

    Children can listen to the radio the same as they can hear adults on a minibus.

    It is no point hiding your head in the sand and asking Grasshopper wuh fuh do like you are some kind of innocent.

    Grasshopper doesn’t live here, you do.

    The fault dear Donna lies not in our stars but in ourselves.

    Whether the woman in the photo was you or not is irrelevant …. it is the child and those entrusted with the care of the child who are responsible.

    We’ve screwed up our society.


  46. BTW Donna

    Do you remember the song?

  47. NWA: F__k Tha Police Avatar
    NWA: F__k Tha Police

    If you ban our music ..
    .. we will just fight back stronger with our message

    Banned songs by the Feds
    Billie Holiday – Strange Fruit
    Beach Boys – God Only Knows
    The Everly Brothers – Wake Up Little Susie
    The Rolling Stones – (I Can’t Get No) Satisfaction
    Van Morrison – Brown Eyed Girl
    The Kingsmen – Louie, Louie
    The Beatles: Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds/A Day In The Life
    Loretta Lynn: The Pill
    Frankie Goes To Hollywood: Relax
    The Kinks: Lola

    Seven words you cannot say are:
    “shit”, “piss”, “fuck”, “cunt”, “cocksucker”, “motherfucker”, and “tits”.


  48. Madd’s 1993 Crop Over calypso, ‘Madd Revival Song,’ chorus lyrics…. ‘Bend down and touch yuh toes, pooch back and let yuh bumpsy roll.’


  49. @ 🐇/🐰 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter_rabbit_incident
    I was somewhat surprised that you pulled Donna in. An attack!

    After much research, I concluded that (1) some wires crossed in the Great Brain and gave us a rabbit in attack mode, or (2) you ran out of places to dig new rabbit holes

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