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Submitted by Grenville Phillips II
Draft plan of new National Stadium

In 1966, the Government or Barbados wanted urgent temporary stands at the Garrison to accommodate spectators of our Independence ceremony. Barbadian Engineers designed the prefabricated reinforced concrete stands which were constructed just in time. After our independence, those stands were dismantled and became part of our National Stadium, where they have stood for the past 57 years.

It appears that China has offered to demolish our National Stadium and rebuild another – as a gift to Barbados. That would seem to be a good thing. In underdeveloped and desperate countries, anyone opposing such a gift would likely be publicly criticised, ridiculed and persecuted to appease their Chinese benefactors. But we are not an undeveloped country.

TROJAN HORSES AND SHEEP.

In a developed country like Barbados, the Government should consider whether such gifts are in the national interest before accepting them on our behalf. The question that the Government must ask before accepting any gift is: ‘Is this a Trojan Sheep?’ A Trojan Horse is designed to harm a nation militarily. A Trojan Sheep is designed to harm it economically.

Some Trojan Sheep are obvious. If China gifted any of the following services to Barbados, the Government would immediately find them offensive. Further, local professional associations would kick-up dust at the brazen attempt to trick us with such obvious Trojan Sheep that are clearly designed to starve local industries into bankruptcy.

a) Chinese lawyers must do all commercial law cases and leave the criminal law cases for Barbadian attorneys.

b) Chinese dentists must extract all molars and premolars and leave extractions of the remaining teeth for Barbadian dentists.

c) Chinese accountants must provide accounting services to all large and medium sized businesses and leave accounting services of small businesses for Barbadian accountants.

d) Chinese surgeons must do all major surgeries and leave minor surgeries and amputations for Barbadian doctors.

e) Chinese mechanics must service and repair all trucks and busses and leave car maintenance for Barbadian mechanics.

CONSTRUCTION ISSUES.

To understand the relevance of these examples to the National Stadium, two issues need to be understood about the construction industry. The first is that Engineers, Architects and Contractors normally need to work on a similar project within the last five to ten years to qualify to tender on that type of project.

The second is that many small Caribbean countries only have one national: airport, seaport, stadium, gymnasium, referral hospital and major highway. Therefore, opportunities to work on such projects are not common.

ESTABLISHED PRECEDENT.

When the Grantley Adams International Airport’s terminals, which opened in 1979, were being constructed, the work was divided into over 30 separate construction contracts. This allowed Barbadian contractors to tender, and get the work-experience necessary to pre-qualify them to work on other airports in the Caribbean for the next ten years.

When I was a project manager of the Kensington Oval’s design, we divided the project into separate contracts to allow as many Barbadian Engineering and Architectural companies as possible to work on that project. That pre-qualified them to work on other stadiums in the Caribbean for the next five years.

AN ACTUAL GIFT.

If China really wanted to give us a gift, then they may give us the funds with specific conditions. They may specify that all imported materials must be sourced from China, and provide close oversight and approval of each design and construction stage before funds are disbursed. But they should not disqualify Barbadian Engineers, Architects and Contractors from designing and building Barbados’ National Stadium.

Currently, the Trojan Sheep appears to be designed to ensure that Chinese companies will have no competition from Barbadian or Caribbean companies in the design and construction of stadiums in the Caribbean. China has built stadiums in: Antigua and Barbuda, Bahamas, Dominica, Jamaica, St Lucia, Grenada, and Suriname. Our unsustainable debt seems to have made us the next ripe low hanging fruit.

If the Government’s deliberate aim is to secure the Caribbean construction market for China, by automatically disqualifying Barbadian Engineers, Architects and Contractors from tendering on projects, then they should accept, slaughter, cook – and choke on that mutton. If that is not their intent, then they must renegotiate the terms of that ‘gift’ so that it is not a Trojan Sheep – or say ‘No thanks’.

Grenville Phillips II is a Doctor of Engineering and a Chartered Structural Engineer. He can be reached at NextParty246@gmail.com 


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158 responses to “Choking on Mutton”


  1. @ Enuff,
    You barely pass comment these days. May I presume that you found my words too close to comfort. This neanderthal way of the government tinkering and ruining the nation must be brought to an end.

    @ Bush Tea,
    Here is a very interesting movie that was shot in Grenada and Barbados. You will recognise parts of Barbados. The film also takes you into the master’s plantation house at what I assume can only be Farley Hill or Grenade Hall Plantation House. A house which was built by slave labour. Take a look at the mahogany antiques probably built by the same slave labour.

    Now we are dependent on the China man to build for us.

    Enjoy this film classic:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eYPD1twzYmM


  2. Mysterious mistrusting Bajan’s can be sceptical about “gifts”..

    it is probably the same logic that DLP used were they were offered a couple of seats in the senate and said they would take it court..


  3. Bushie

    Yuh sent muh to thee devil to complaint bout Satan.

    Is he not the man talking about a project breakdown structure in bite-sized pieces just large enough for the local boys to digest?😇

    In these circumstances, how would you deal with the “ex gratia payments” central to the system?😜


  4. @Bush Tea

    You have shifted the discussion points.

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    NorthernObserver

    Bushie
    I know you like GPII real bad. But, I don’t think this is one of his better observations.
    The precedent here, is not getting pre-qual resumes for local contractors. but the fact the Chinese have done this several times before.
    ac would tell ya the horse done bolt.
    The coffers empty, who else offering freenesses? [ok nothing is free, but]
    If MAM went and got another new loan from whomever to build a Stadium, you would be vex as shiite and complaining. Because you know it would be a corrupt parade. GPII isn’t in control. And he would eventually complain about the numerous no bid contracts let.
    Not that you care, or should, but your side of the aisle near empty.

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    Yolande Grant – African Online Publishing Copyright (c) 2023. All Rights Reserved.

    Paaha…everyone…love to share GOOD NEWS!!!!! There is finally a filing in Florida for the entire gang of Thieves in Barbados….jammed packed with names…lawd…

    Check out 789 Whatsapp group for the names of defendants..rocking.

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    Yolande Grant – Aftican Online Publishing Coyright (c) 2023. All Rights Reserved.

    Fire in de wire.

    https://rijock.blogspot.com/?m=1


  8. Waru

    Have you seen the actual court docs?

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    Yolande Grant – African Online Publishing Copyright (c) 2023. All Rights Reserved.

    I know who have them, and will ask to view. The filing is real. Dont mind the top page of names, corrections have to be made and can be done after. I noticed some names were missing and asked a question. This is something should have been done years ago, as advised. Maybe this is the right time…..there is more..

    The filing number is on the dicument…easy to check.

    I suppose other plaintiffs will and should attach…John???


  10. Waru

    This has been long in coming. But amazing that citizens of a titularly sovereign country would have to go to the emperium to seek redress for systemic criminality at the centre of the lawfare and government. An empire itself far more corrupt.

    But weee need to see the court docs. For if it is real, this writer shall join the class action as an injured party.

    Such cases against governments are normally heard in the southern district of NYC. That court has an ability to seize national assets. Then again empire itself will not be long to fall.

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    Yolande Grant – African Online Publishing Copyright (c) 2023. All Rights Reserved.

    I will share your comment with the holder and get back to you.

    People were begging for DECADES for integrity legislation, seeing one of the fowls talking about it’s being looked at this week at or some rubbish like that. ..too late MF…they gloated, boasted and ignored the people…for way too long.

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    Yolande Grant – African Online Publishing Copyright (c) 2023. All Rights Reserved.

    There is now the seizure legislation passed by Prince Donald a few years ago…i believe all the courts are now so empowered under that new law…to seize.

    I have a copy of it somewhere about…when i come across it, will shoot it over to you.


  13. David
    on July 18, 2023 at 2:40 PM said:
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    @Sargeant

    You mean Sam Lord’s Castle?

    Now publicized as 30 September 2023, another Chinese construction job.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Where is the water coming from to feed this monstrosity?

    Somebody or rather somebodies will have to suck salt.


  14. This is why it’s sometimes wise to lurk in the shadows. Mia and Barbados have for a number of years courted a high moral profile that has essentially chided the values of western countries. The Bridgetown Initiative has upset a number of powerful countries.

    We may now see the rug been pulled from under her carpet.

    Donville’s arrest and subsequent imprisonment was perhaps the canary in the mine that focused the cross hair on Barbados.

    Waru’s “incoherent” ramblings over the last week should have warned as that she was aware of some breaking news’s story. Good ole Uncle Sam!

    Have a great day Barbados.


  15. I saw Island in the Sun when I was a boy in the 60’s.

    I heard it was filmed in Barbados so used to think it was about Barbados even though much of it did not ring true to me.

    None of the characters really rung true to me and besides, in those days Westerns and War movies were what I liked and this film I found downright boring.

    I considered it boring as I considered musicals at the time.

    My family used to get together on Saturday nights at my grandfather’s house and one of the highlights was showing a film on a movie projector rented from Gittens and Company.

    Every now and then the film would break and had to be spliced.

    It is only now that TLSN has informed me about it being filmed in Grenada that I looked more closely at its origins.

    It is more about Grenada and the rise of Eric Gairy to prominence in the 50’s and 60’s.

    I remember at school in the 1970’s the troubles Grenada had with the Mongoose Gang culminating with the appearance of Maurice Bishop.

    Funny, in that period there was a parallel with Gairy and EWB in that EWB was being exposed for corruption culminating with him losing to Tom in 1976.

    The BLP has carried on the corruption.

    EWB was smarter than Gairy and was able to steer clear of censure from the British Government in the 60’s but it may have been more likely that sugar saved EWB’s ass since the Barbados economy was booming in the 60’s when EWB came to power and the UK had an insatiable appetite for the product after WWII and the rationing that followed.

    Gairy did not have the economy Barbados had back then.

    Long term EWB was more destructive to his country’s interests than was Gairy.

    If you watch these two West Indians you will see the same left wing ideology that was promoted in the film.

    Island in the Sun may have propelled the advance of Eric Gairy. It came out in 1957 so it may also have promoted Castro and Cuba.

    Hollywood was going left in these days as was evidenced in the McCathy era which begun in the late 1940’s after WWII.

    I skipped through the link TLSN provided and can see the left wing tendencies in the plot.


  16. The film is still as boring to me now as when I was a boy!!


  17. It will be interesting to watch how the RICO case in Florida pans out.

    My bet is that Russian money coming through London in the early nineties has been the cause of the attraction of many of the attorneys at law to the dark side, Chinese money too.

    Money uses real estate to be laundered.

    It also seeks “stable” financial institutions regardless of whether it is clean or dirty.

    Money will corrupt regardless of country.

    It will be interesting to see if the racketeering case against this current lot will meet the requirements of Forum Conveniens and is heard in Florida.

    One thing is sure, if the plaintiffs are able to tie the defendants to Florida and criminal acts have been committed in Florida they should be toast.

    Seems like a long list of defendants.


  18. … sure I have seen some of those names elsewhere.

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    Yolande Grant – African Online Publishing Copyright (c) 2023. All Rights Reserved.

    I complained that names are missing, should be longer.

    John…there is evidence that these grevious incidences started as far back as the 1920s and evolved dangerously so over time, got even more sophisticated in the last 30-40 years….if everyone enjoins the suit, every descent over the last 50 years, it will be a long haul.

    This is long overdue. Many have passed on and their descents live in horrible poverty today….it’s now generational if their properties are not returned.

    Just imagine losing a sizeable inheritance and your family left to suffer because of the unscrupulous and greedy, who am i telling that to, right…

    then there is no recource because of evil enablers and facilitators..who laugh at victims, they dont think i saw them lsughing, but they are so wrong..

    while the supreme court is too corrupt with nepotism to function..any other place and they would all lose their lives or beaten senseless. …the anger would flow…

    TLSN…that was just frustration, but they have to allow me to tell it how it should be told….no matter how “rambling”….if they decide they are telling it and have no idea what they are telling concerned parties would want to know, WHO gave them permission…lawsuits are easily triggered….so they may as well sit this one out…they got bigger issues to deal with….a whole government compomised…and the information will be sent everywhere…..fame…that should concern them even more..

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    Yolande Grant – African Online Publishing Copyright (c) 2023. All Rights Rerserved.

    Do people understand that the entire legislature, prominent members of the bar association and the entire judiciary, not to mention the cabinet of ranking members are named in the filing, let that sink in…am sure they made history in punching above weight class…..someone should contact the guinness book of records to confirm..

    Maybe that’s why it all sounds so familiar to John, they are in his filings too…..with more added in each individual case. A real road show.


  21. The problem is also with the banks.

    Check what is happening with old Nige in the UK.

  22. Run Rabbit Run Avatar
    Run Rabbit Run

    National Front Nigel Farage is a Big Fat C to the U to the N to the T

    Looks like his Bum Chum the Twump Monster will get got shortly for his explicit Jan 6th 2020 shenanigans

    Oh what a shame

    emperium
    Emperium is a term generally referring to a powerful form of iron used in metallurgy. It is also often associated with the highest level or rank of authority and power in a civilization, typically used when describing ancient empires and their ruling figures.


  23. @budavid
    when u ready
    S/b 2021*
    aka an Off by One err


  24. Yolande Grant – African Online Publishing Copyright (c) 2023. All Rights Rerserved.
    on July 19, 2023 at 5:53 AM said:
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    Do people understand that the entire legislature, prominent members of the bar association and the entire judiciary, not to mention the cabinet of ranking members are named in the filing, let that sink in…am sure they made history in punching above weight class…..someone should contact the guinness book of records to confirm..

    Maybe that’s why it all sounds so familiar to John, they are in his filings too…..with more added in each individual case. A real road show.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The closest I have got to filing a case against officials was in 2011 and 2012 when my mother filed three Constitutional motions against the Attorney General. The DLP was in at the time. The complaint was that she was being deprived of a fair and speedy trial.

    The Constitutional Motions remain to be heard 12 years later and are part of the 22 delayed cases some dating back to 2002 and 2003.

    She also filed a Derivative Action against the AG in 2007 over the compensation the Government owed Kingsland Estates Limited regarding the land at Kendal Hill which was acquired by the GOB, where Kooyman is now located.

    GOB abandoned the acquisition in 2013 and Massy purportedly bought the 16 or so acres from Kingsland for 20 million.

    Funnily enough the court in 2001 and 2002 had determined that Kingsland was impecunious and that her approximately 1/7 share value of the 1041 acres was $857,100.00 insufficient to cover the $1 million the Court of Appeal ordered her to put down for it to even hear her appeal.

    Like her brother, Colin Deane described above, Kingsland had given her an undertaking and associated indemnification when she and her siblings and parents had conveyed 1,133 acres to Kingsland on a cashless basis.

    Guess the attorneys at law and the court were all concentrating on share ownership and did not remember the encumbrance the undertaking placed on the land of an impecunious company.

    Anyway, a bank, FCIB, lent $31 million on the land.


  25. National Hero and Bajan Treasure Rihanna should perform the inauguration ceremony with a free concert


  26. In passing we see one referring to clean and dirty money. There are no such things!

    This represents a way of seeing the world in Manichaean terms.

    The truth has long been that money is money. Neither clean or dirty.

    Examples, the Afghanistan poppy trade increased from near zero, with the UN giving the Talaban government a citation for poppy eradication, to a war in the country, to Afghanistan being the chief supplier of opium to the world with more than 100,000 US troops on the ground since 2003 circa.

    There are many stories.

    Florida itself was, and up to now, built on drug money. All of it! It’s remarkable that their courts are being called upon. A place where Bajans love to have their second homes.

    The CIA has serially used their favorite drugs barons in Central and South America to sell drugs, launder money, and the like. And everybody knows this.

    Need we go on!

  27. Gangsters, Courts and Police Protection Service Avatar
    Gangsters, Courts and Police Protection Service

    “There are many stories.”

    During prohibition alcohol was illegal
    Crime Syndicates provided the product
    Gangsters protected the product and money from robbery

    When alcohol was legalised after Prohibition
    Police and Courts protect the product and money from robbery

    Likewise Holy Herb was illegal
    now it is made legal the Police and Courts protect product and money


  28. Starcom breaking news.

    Man shot on Broad street. Shooter in custody


  29. Well seen! Kiki



  30. The Russian Federation is again making mutton of NATO’s canon fodder in Ukraine.

    For in the last 24 hours another 800 Western-backed Nazis where destroyed.

    With the much vaunted counteroffensive in the dust, the Nazis, what is left of them for the RF has killed over 350,000 since the SMO started with another 1.2 million injured to varies degrees, the remaining Western sponsored fascists, Banderites, thankfully, are now singing to their supremacist lord ‘nearer thy god to be’.

    The RF has overnight devastated the Odessa Port, closed the Black Sea, and have formally withdrawn from the Grain Deal because of noncompliance by the West for this is what the White supremacists do. For them only others must comply with agreements they themselves signed.

    Along the front line, except up north by Liman etc where RF troops have made significant gains, the position ante holds. With Ukraine being severely beaten back and in 7 weeks are not even able to break though the ramparts ahead of the RF first line of defense, and there are four.

    Watch out for big arrow assaults. Watch out!!!



  31. Nation News understands there was a police-involved shooting this evening at Glebe Land, St George.


  32. Someone sent me this that was going around on Whatsapp.

    “A man walked into Dufry Bridgetown armed and greased up and robbed Sure pay. He also made an attempt at a Jewellery counter and couldn’t break it. On running out our main doors a patrolling cop on Broad Street shot him down. No staff were hurt, just shaken up by the incident.”


  33. Allow the blogmaster to ask Andrew Bynoe the same question posed earlier. Has the private sector in Barbados demonstrated any initiative to assist with constructing a national stadium? Has Andrew Bynoe been part of any initiative to encourage fellow captains of industry to assist?

    We should be building National Stadium ourselves

    I HOPE THE Government of Barbados would rescind its decision to accept as a gift, the building of the National Stadium by the government of China. We are missing a fundamental aspect to our graduation to Independence 56 years ago, if we are happy with ourselves, begging our way through life. We would have had then, to believe in our capacity to earn our way.
    Emancipation Day celebrations, highlighted by beautiful speeches and ancestral gyrations, mean very little if we do not dedicate ourselves to carrying our own oats.
    I was ten years old when my grandfather said to me “a horse that will not carry his own oats will starve or beg”. We have no right begging. Fifty-six years later, we should be past that.
    The stadium donated by the Chinese will always be the Chinese Stadium. We will be forever paying homage to the Chinese whenever we pass Waterford. This will be the unintended consequence, jabbing at our psyche.
    We are better off finding the money to build our National Stadium ourselves.
    Where is our resolve? We are yet to emancipate ourselves.

    – ANDREW BYNOE

    Source: Nation

    When former Minister of Sports Stephen Lashley floated the idea for all citizens to donate was it $10 to a national lottery was there support for the idea by the BCCI and others? Talk is very cheap.

    https://barbadosunderground.net/2017/04/08/national-stadium-stephen-lashley-10-dollars/

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    Yolande Grant. — African Online Publishing Copyright. (c) 2023. All Rights Reserved.

    Pacha….check your inbox…..for receipt. Will have a full read later. All i can say is they all look too sweet…damn.


  35. David
    on July 20, 2023 at 6:16 AM said:
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    Allow the blogmaster to ask Andrew Bynoe the same question posed earlier. Has the private sector in Barbados demonstrated any initiative to assist with constructing a national stadium? Has Andrew Bynoe been part of any initiative to encourage fellow captains of industry to assist?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Sports is no longer a Barbadian thing.

    Bajan youth don’t like the hot sun.

    Childhood obesity is the way forward!!

    Private sector would invest where the returns are, food.

    This sector is thriving I am sure no one can deny.

    What is the use of a new stadium?

    Why would anyone in Barbados with any sense invest in it?

    If it is ever built, we should build it because we want and need it.


  36. Beware of Greeks bearing gifts!!


  37. Talk is NOT cheap… PARROs are…

    Too many Bajans are past MENDICANT and lacking in self respect to appreciate the point that Mr Bynoe is making.
    Quite simply, you are EITHER man enuff to stand up on your own and meet your BASIC needs ….
    OR
    ….you are nothing but a brass bowl beggar, PRETENDING to be a man, while secretly being laid prostrate (like Petra) by the REAL albino who is running your affairs behind closed doors.

    Bynoe runs businesses that employ hundreds of Bajans. Why the hell should he build a stadium too?

    Why don’t you ask the BOA what they do with the millions in FREE lottery money that they have received EVERY year for eons now…

    What has the Sports Council done with theirs?

    The REAL problem with Barbados is not the shiite politicians and leaders making the shiite policies – which are mostly designed to produce kickbacks…
    It is the many, mendicant, shiite, citizens who have ZERO self esteem, and who can therefore demand no more from the lousy policy makers.


  38. David:

    Was QC a gift, or did the Chinese have to compete with Barbadian contractors? I think the latter. The Chinese were allowed to tender on several projects in Barbados – that we all had to pay for.


  39. @Bush Tea

    He is a member of civil society, the same group he is asking to rise to the occasion. He can help to mobilize support, this does not mean he has to build anything. He is a retailer, buying and selling need you be reminded.


  40. You are correct Grenville, if the blogmaster’s memory is correct, China State Construction was very active in Barbados at that time. There are s a reason why that company successfully outbid many at that time for major projects.


  41. A special tribute to Jamaica’s Pride
    The original “pocket rocket”
    Shelly – Ann Fraser – Pryce
    World and Olympic Female Sprint Champion


  42. David:

    It is not nebulous. You simply do not understand Construction. We will lose significantly much more than we will gain.


  43. @Grenville

    You like the blogmaster are entitled to have different views. The question on the table is how do we find money to build a stadium given our current financial state. All agree a stadium is needed as part of a relevant youth development program, how do we finance it.


  44. Wrong David. I am saying that with Caribbean countries only having one national stadium, doing one would pre-qualify that nation’s professionals to do others around the Caribbean and farther afield. It is not like houses or commercial buildings where they are plenty of similar projects. We only have one national airport and one national stadium,

    Allowing the Chinese to do it automatically disqualifies all Barbadian Engineers, Architects and Contractors – so the country does not benefit from future earnings from such projects.


  45. Hmmmm, that would only be true if the majority of other Caribbean countries built from their ‘pockets’?


  46. @ David
    Perhaps you should consult with the ‘original David’ more. He got it!

    Bynoe is NOT ’of the same group’ he is addressing.
    He RUNS a successful business. He is not a servant of some albino or foreigner like most of us.
    His family invested HEAVILY in green industry – only to be huffed by government officials (most likely due to them being offered inadequate bribes). He is FEARLESS to speak his mind publicly – like only about ten other brass bowls bout here…

    No wonder he sees things differently!

    Look up the Stockholm syndrome…
    BB Victims get to the point where the world ONLY seems right to them, when their long time masters keep on calling the shots… and being their ‘benefactors’.
    Why the Hell should the Chinese determine what is an adequate stadium for Bushie? The Gymnasium has been mostly white elephant – too expensive for most sports needs…

    When a people reach such a point, DEATH is the only real solution.

    When Pacha keeps calling for the ‘mushroom penis’ to be unleashed, it is against the background where the people who REALLY matter are hopelessly “Stockholmed” …

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