BU Covid 19 Dash

Submitted by Lyall Small

David; attached are 2 Charts on the daily incidence of Covid-19 in Barbados from 1st August to 8th October. They try to provide a picture of how the 3rd wave of the pandemic has been progressing here. They are essentially based on the raw data. The data suggests, to me, that we are near the eye-wall of this category 5 hurricane and can go either way into an eventual stable calm or an extended chaotic nightmare of expanding cases. The majority of the population needs to concentrate on doing what we individually all know is our part to get out this, battered but not broken.

 

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  1. “Did the member of Staff at the Winston Scott Polyclinic who sadly passed get infected at work or at home?”

    If infection was due to water (which it wasn’t) then everyone who drank the same water would be infected (which they weren’t)


  2. 555 Dub StreetOctober 11, 2021 5:36 AM

    AC
    Exercising
    good for your mind body soul
    just do
    Xxcc
    Just maybe if govt had exercise basic commonsense when virus signs were coming from other countries
    The bajans mind body and soul would not be fighting tooth and nail against this virus


  3. DavidOctober 11, 2021 6:21 AM

    Was it reported that this death is unrelated to Covid ?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    QEH in the news again … AND THE WINSTON SCOTT POLYCLINIC NEXT DOOR

    As a result of the current COVID crisis, the Accident and Emergency (A&E) Department of the Queen Elizabeth Hospital is requesting that only cases classified as emergencies should come to the department.

    A media release said today: “As usual, the A&E Department should not see patients with mild symptoms, non-emergencies or those who are coming for testing.”

    The situation has also been exacerbated by the closure of the Winston Scott Polyclinic as a result of the untimely death of a member of their healthcare team.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    You are right, it is possible the death at the Winston Scott Polyclinic may not have been due to COVID.

    But it doesn’t change the fact of what happened at the QEH or the Geriatric Hospital.

    Nor does it change the fact that the MOH says the majority of cases are in the Southern Corridor.

    Possibly one of the many cases I have used may or may not have been due to COVID.

    https://www.nationnews.com/2021/10/09/nurse-winston-scott-polyclinic-passes/


  4. “Just maybe if govt had exercise basic commonsense when virus signs were coming from other countries
    The bajans mind body and soul would not be fighting tooth and nail against this virus”

    you are an old nag pointing your finger blaming when things go wrong but..
    Barbados is past that point of the virus entering the island
    and is now in the process of fighting spread of infections
    and tending to the dead and dying

    keep up


  5. Dubb sh.it

    you are an old nag pointing your finger blaming when things go wrong but..
    Barbados is past that point of the virus entering the island
    and is now in the process of fighting spread of infections
    and tending to the dead and dying

    keep up

    Xcxcccccc
    There are my fingers
    Why do u have a problem where how and when I point them
    Yuh need to stop peeping out from your little corner pelting stones in my direction
    If my truth bother u so be it
    But truth is the correction formula for correction
    Many bajan households has become isolation centre
    A truth which came about because of govt mistake a landmark of govt Covid policies
    Cuss the messenger all u want but truth is not going anywhere soon
    Deal with that knucklehead


  6. AC OPINED……AND CORRECTLY SO
    Just maybe if govt had exercise basic commonsense when virus signs were coming from other countries
    The bajans mind body and soul would not be fighting tooth and nail against this virus
    IF GOVERNMENT HAD LISTENED TO WISE COUNSEL BY THEIR OWN AND THOSE PHYSICIANS ABROAD,WHO WERE TELLING THE TRUTH MAYBE LOTS OF THE PAIN AND SUFFERING MIGHT HAVE BEEN AVERTED.

    INSTEAD WE OPTED FOR THE PRETTY-COLS THAT ARE NOT WORKING HERE, THERE OR ANYWHERE. AND THEY WONT BE WORKING HITHER, THITHER OR YON EITHER.

    WE PREFERRED TO LISTEN TO FALSY AND BURP
    WE SCOFFED AT TRUMP FOR AGREEING TO USE HYDROXYCHLOROQUINONE–A DRUG WITH A VERY WIDE THERAPEUTIC IDEX , AND LONG DETERMINED AND ENSHRINED IN HARRISON’S TEXT BOOK OF INTERNAL MEDICINE TO COMBAT CORONOVIRUSES BECAUSE OF ITS MECHANISM OF ACTION BY PREVENTING TRANSCRIPTION AND TRANSLATION OF THE VIRUS’ M-RNA, AND THUS PREVENTING BOTH TRANSMISSION AND MUTATION

    THE HILARITY IN THE RUM SHOP IS THE RUBBISH EXPOUSED BY FOLK ON BU WITH ABSOLUTELY NO EXPERIENCE OR TRAINING IN PUBLIC HEALTH, AND NO TRAINING OR UNDERSTANDING OF THE BASIC MEDICAL SCIENCES, ESPECIALLY PHARMACOLOGY VIROLOGY IMMUNOLOGY BIOCHEMISTRY AND PHYSIOLOGY.

    BY THE WAY, THE MORE WUNNA CURSE ME,, THE MORE I LAUGH, WHEN I COME FOR MY DAILY MIRTH FROM THE RUM SHOP

    AC HAS AGAIN CORRECTLY OPINED
    Many bajan households has become isolation centre
    A truth which came about because of govt mistake a landmark of govt Covid policies
    Cuss the messenger all u want but truth is not going anywhere soon
    CUSS HER AS MUCH AS YOU LIKE BUT SHE IS TELLING THE TRUTH HERE
    SHE IS SPOT ON, BECAUSE WE FAILED TO STICK TO THE BASICS


  7. Make jab a must!

    BCCI wants mandatory vaccines for front-line workers
    ADD THE Barbados Chamber of Commerce and Industry (BCCI) to the list of organisations calling on Government to make vaccines mandatory for all front-line workers.
    BCCI president Anthony Branker also wants an urgent meeting of the Social Partnership so a way forward can be found to deal with the ongoing third wave of the COVID-19 virus.
    His call came a few hours after six more COVID-19related deaths were reported by public health authorities yesterday.
    In a statement, Branker said the executive council of the BCCI, which represents the voice of over 240 members from all sectors of business on the island, met recently and with one voice expressed concern about the lack of action by Government on the escalating COVID-19 cases and the impact this was having on their businesses and society in general.
    “The BCCI is calling on the Government of Barbados to get back to the negotiation table of the Social Partnership, where labour, Government and the private sector can carve out a sustainable future for all Barbadians, COVID-19 or no COVID-19,” Branker said.
    The businessman said the BCCI agreed at the last Social Partnership meeting six weeks ago to encourage and educate its members on the benefits of vaccination against the virus.
    “However, in light of the current deleterious situation, the BCCI adds its voice of support to the Barbados Private Sector Association for a vaccine mandate in the form of a risk-based approach to mandatory vaccination that will see all front-line workers vaccinated or tested frequently for COVID-19.”
    Time for decision
    Yesterday, the Barbados Hotel & Tourism Association (BHTA), which represents more than 70 hotels and
    accommodation properties, in a whole page ad in the SUNDAY SUN, called on Government to make vaccines mandatory for all workers in the hospitality industry.
    Branker said the time had come for a decision to be made.
    “As president of the BCCI, I must now ask, how many more? How many more potential visitors to our island will have to cancel their planned trip? How many more cruise line calls need to be cancelled? How many more doctors and nurses must reach their breaking point?”
    He also said Barbadians were being seriously affected by mental health issues associated with COVID-19 fatigue, and the children remained away from the classroom.
    “How many more of our children must be left behind because of the online learning? How many more businesses must be interrupted or closed? How many more jobs must be lost? How many more Barbadians have to die?” he queried.
    When contacted, general secretary of the Congress of Trade Unions and Staff Associations of Barbados, Dennis De Peiza, said he would not comment on the BHTA’s call for mandatory vaccines in the tourism industry, but did reveal the issue of mandatory vaccines would be the main item on the agenda tomorrow during a special meeting of their occupational safety and health division.
    (BA)


    Source: Nation


  8. life expectancy in barbados in 1950 was 52 I hate to think what it was in 1900, Life has to be lived those past their sell by date have to be extra cautious not just for covid but for everything. A year and a half ago it was two weeks to flatten the curve ,now it is everyone must be vaccinated and that is no guarantee old people will live longer if it is true people are on their 4 shot in israel.. Dont depend on someone else look after yourself . Take a look at a college football game over 100000 in attendance how are you going to put that genie back in the bottle. lets go brandon


  9. WHAT YOU ARE SAYING LAWSON IS THAT THE AUTHORITIES DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND ARE BEING VERY INCONSISTENT
    IN THE USA THEY SEEK TO ENFORCE VACCINE MANDATES BUT
    1- THE STADIA ARE FULL FOR CATCHING THE BALL AND FIGHTING FOR IT GAMES
    2- THEY ALLOW THOUSANDS TO ENTER THE COUNTRY WHO ARE UNVACCINATED AND VERY LIKELY INFECTED, AND THEN FLY AND BUS THEM TO CITIES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY TO INFECT THE SAME CITIZENS THAT YOU SEEK TO HAVE VACCINATED

    AND WE HAVE TWO MORONS SUGGESTING THAT IF THE USA SHOULD CHANGE IN 2024 THAT THEY WOULD HAVE GOT THE GOVERNMENT THAT THEY DESERVE.

    AS YOU KNOW I HAVE NOT BEEN SMART SINCE I WON MY SCHOLARSHIP ALMOST 50 YEARS AGO, BUT IT SEEMS THAT I STILL SMARTER THAN THE MORONS WHO WILL NOW SEEK TO MOCK ME NOW………BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE USA CHANGED GOVERNMENT IN 2020 AND THEY ACTUALLY NOW REALLY HAVE THE GOVERNMENT THAT THEY DESERVE.


  10. GP I have heard a new spin or rules every week, Biden started the vaccination program, Biden started warp speed, wear one mask wear 3 masks etc people are fed up especially the young, they will take reasonable precautions but a bunch of old people telling them they cant have christmas or have a drink in a pub is going to wear thin.


  11. LAWSON

    GP I have heard a new spin or rules every week,
    AND YOU WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO BECAUSE DRS FALSY AND BURP AND THE CDC AND THE FDA AND WHO AND THE ADMINISTRATION AND BIG PHARMA ESPECIALLY ARE ALL AS CORRUPT AS THE ONE WHO LEADS THEM- THE DEVIL HIMSELF..AND THEY ARE ALL ON THE TAKE

    AND WHEN EVER THE DEVIL IS LARGE AND IN CHARGE OR EVEN JUST PRESENT, NOTHING ENDS WELL. AS WE CAN CLEARLY SEE.

    IT WAS NOT VERY LONG AGO REALLY THAT TRUMP WAS MOCKED FOR SUGGESTING WARP SPEED (WHICH HE UNFORTUNATELY DID NOT KNOW WAS WELL ON THE WAY BEFORE THIS MOST UNUSUA “VIRUS” WAS RELEASED ON THE WORLD BY THE COSMOS DIABOLICOS)

    THE DIABOLICAL DR FALSY ASKED FOR PRETTY COOLS THAT DONT WORK, AND CLINICAL TRIALS FOR HYDROXYCHLOROQUINONE, IN JUST THE SAME THAT IT IS WELL DOCUMENTED THAT HE SCREWED UP IN 1981 WITH HIV. AND INSTEAD OF FOLLOWING THE RESULTS OF THE TRUE DRS WHO WERE USING HYDOXYCHLOROQUINONE WITH GREAT SUCCESS HITHER, THITHER AND YON, TRUMP WAS MOCKED AND THE DRUG BANNED AROUND THE WORLD BY EDICT BY WHO LED BY A NON DR……SUCH THAT EVEN IN AFRICA WHERE MALARIA IS ENDEMIC THIS DRUG WAS NOT AVAILABLE

    INSTEAD MANY VACCINES WERE FOISTED UPON THE WORLD THAT DID NOT UNDERGO THE WELL ESTABLISHED PROTOCOLS FOR BRINGING ANY PHARMACEUTICAL TO MARKET………….AS IS WELL SET OUT IN ALL WELL READ TEXT BOOKS OF PHARMACOLOGY INCLUDING JAWETZ IN CHAPTER 3 IN OLDER VERSIONS

    NOW WE HAVE MANY ON BU WITH NO KNOWLEDGE OF PUBLIC HEALTH PROCEEDURES (EVEN AS OUR PUBLIC HEALTH JOKERS FOLLOWED BLINDLY DESPITE GOOD LOCAL ADVICE) AND MANY CUT AND PASTERS OF GOO IN THIER FEAR AND ANXIETY, THAT THEY DONT REALLY UNDERSTAND, BULL SHITTING WITH GAY ABANDON


  12. “A truth which came about because of govt mistake a landmark of govt Covid policies
    Cuss the messenger all u want but truth is not going anywhere soon
    Deal with that knucklehead”

    old peoples minds slowly stop functioning and keep repeating the same point
    from day one it was said that when contagion crossed into Barbados it would be a big issue on the little island
    it took a while and was several months behind other places but it is in a precarious situation right about now
    people are dealing with it while others are talking about it

    stop insulting like a stale stank pissy pussy


  13. @Lawson
    If you have friends telling you “Biden started the vaccination program, Biden started warp speed” then I would suggest trimming or replacing a few friends.

    Lawson to wife “Let’s get naughty and play school. You will be the teacher”
    “OK!” said wifey “But I’m going to be absent”


  14. Its Biden making those claims and I have ditched some good friends over their losing the ability to think for themselves. Cant even stand to argue with them.
    I understand what your saying about educators you can always learn something. .When I was dating one bajan teacher and asked her did she like sex ..She said infrequently, I asked her was that one word or two.


  15. ClassifiedsRead ePaper
    Home / Top Featured Article / #COVIDDispatch – Social worker says changes needed in approach to COVID-19 victims

    #COVIDDispatch – Social worker says changes needed in approach to COVID-19 victims – by Barbados Today October 11, 2021
    Who feels it knows it. That’s how Pamela Jones-Goodridge sums up her life-changing COVID-19 experience.

    Speaking to COVID Dispatch from home isolation, Jones-Goodridge said the seven days she spent in an isolation facility have altered the way she performs her day-to-day duties as a clinical social worker.

    Always extremely careful to follow the protocols, it came as a complete shock when she contracted the virus.

    Jones-Goodridge said: “It will always remain a mystery to me because I pride myself on being pretty safe in terms of following the protocols. Monday night, I felt like a tickling in the back of my throat and I ignored it. I came home the Tuesday night, took a shower, went to bed and I woke up in the early hours of Wednesday morning with chills.”

    But again, she brushed off the symptoms and reasoned that it was because she had been sleeping directly under a fan. However, things took a turn for the worst in the morning.

    “I took my temperature and I realized that it was high, and I said, ‘well that is odd’ so I took it a half-hour later and then 15 minutes after; it was still high. By then, I started to feel pain in my eyes and in my upper nasal cavity, but it didn’t feel like a headache, it just felt like sinus pressure,” she explained.

    Jones-Goodridge said she called her doctor and was directed to get a COVID-19 test. She was given some Zyrtec and told to get some rest until the results came in.

    She recalls getting the dreaded email at 4:30 on Thursday morning. It was at that point that she began to panic, not for herself initially but for all her close contacts who she said had underlying health challenges and some of whom were only partially vaccinated.

    However, after bringing her anxiety under control, the clinical social worker got a first-hand view of the problems in the process and how they can be fixed. She now believes that Government is using the wrong people to do the COVID-19 outreach.

    Jones-Goodridge said: “When you bring a celebrity that, in the average Barbadian’s mind, you and I are miles apart in our experiences, in our outlook on life, the average Barbadian finds it hard to relate to that person. So that celebrity or that doctor or the politician telling persons you should take the vaccine because it will save your life amounts to nothing unless they can safely say ‘I am recommending you to take the vaccine because I know what it is to walk a mile in your shoes.”

    “Up until last week Thursday, I was like any one of those celebrities. I have been counselling a lot of people that have been positive that have been in facilities and up to that point I was very far removed from them and their situation and their experience until I found myself one of them. One of the things that I also realised when I was there was what I thought I was doing and how effective I thought I was being when I was counselling persons, I really wasn’t,” she reflected, noting that her seven days at the isolation centre at Blackman and Gollop Primary School caused her to reflect on her approach.

    Jones-Goodridge said that one of the major shortfalls throughout the whole process was the lack of information which was causing many people anxiety.


  16. Faucci and all the experts should have figured out a long time ago that the virus is also waterborne.

    IT took me some time but these folks are supposed to know these things.


  17. You always had trouble with one word or two.
    Reminds me of the time you hit on a man and got beaten up because you thought being a turncock meant the person was gay.


  18. THEO, YOU AND LAWSON SOUND AS THOUGH YOU HAVE BOTH SPENT TIME IN BANGKOK

    THERE IS NOTHING LIKE A GOOD PUN TO HAVE FUN A PUN


  19. JOHN
    RE Faucci and all the experts should have figured out a long time ago that the virus is also waterborne.
    FALSY COULD NOT FIGURE OUT ANYTHING

    WHEN YOU ARE DRIVEN BY THE MONEY AND THE FEAR OF DYING FROM “SUICIDE” YOU DO AS YOU ARE TOLD AND PAID TO DO, BUT IN ADDITION, THE DIABOLICAL FALSY SCREWED UP JUST AS BADLY WITH HIV IN 1981. PROBABLY THE REASON WHY HE WAS CHOSEN FOR THE OBVIOUS SCREW UP LAST YEAR.

    I SPOTTED HIM FROM VERY EARLY, BECAUSE THE PROPOSED PRETTYCOLS JUST DID NOT MAKE SENSE
    BUT THE BIASED BLOGMASTER POSTED A LENGTHY CURRICULUM OF FALSY LAST YEAR IN TANDEM WITH A POST FROM PATCHY MAMMA WHICH ASKED WHAT DID I EVER ACHIEVE IN LIFE.

    IT WAS SO HILARIOUS


  20. If sex with three people is a threesome , and sex with four people is called a foursome, now I understand why donna calls you handsome Theo


  21. Crewman to Noah: Noah, we have to go, but we have one chicken, one sheep and a goat.

    Noah: Let’s go. We have Lawson. They might not reproduce, but they’ll be busy.


  22. Jones-Goodridge said: “It will always remain a mystery to me because I pride myself on being pretty safe in terms of following the protocols. Monday night, I felt like a tickling in the back of my throat and I ignored it. I came home the Tuesday night, took a shower, went to bed and I woke up in the early hours of Wednesday morning with chills.”

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Could be as simple as eating a salad or taking a shower.

    Wonder if Pamela Jones-Goodridge lives in the Southern corridor or below the 140 foot contour!!

    I believe I may have been in contact with a COVID – 19 sufferer this morning, observed physical distancing, wore a mask and sanitised after, all the rules and protocols.

    I offered to call an ambulance but the person preferred me to call a relative.

    The person clearly needed help but was still able to drive away when the relative came.

    So, maybe I may be lucky, or unlucky, time will tell.


  23. I hear Mottley will address the nation this evening and will take questions afterwards. The address will be predictable, lets hope we have some probing questions.


  24. Mottley would soon learn that Covid messages overload is a definite way of people running out to what she repeats
    By now many have already made up mind to Vax or not to Vax
    Those whose minds that already determined not to Vax would not tune into PR covid press conferences


  25. Mottley would soon learn that Covid messages overload is a definite way of people tunning out to what she repeats
    By now many have already made up mind to Vax or not to Vax
    Those whose minds that already determined not to Vax would not tune into PR covid press conferences


  26. @ David October 11, 2021 7:21 PM

    Just heard the latest announcements from our Supreme Leader! It is excellent that we now get de facto compulsory vaccination.

    However, we should not stop here, but take brutal action against all opponents of vaccination in the ranks of the administration, for example the Chief Labour Officer and other enemies of leader, party and state.


  27. We KNOW the vaccines will wane with time, or so the experts tell us.

    Will boosters be mandated for the vaccinated to keep the Safe Zones Safe?

    For sure there will be breakthrough infections in the vaccinated.

    Natural immunity may last for years.

    Instead of testing only the unvaccinated for COVID, both the vaccinated and unvaccinated should be tested for COVID as well as for evidence of past COVID infection(s).


  28. How can you have safe zones with the vaccinated being inherently unsafe and subject to breakthrough infections?

    The only sensible solution is to eradicate the virus!!


  29. The problem is no one understands the virus or the vaccines and their long term effects.

    Can’t build anything lasting in sand.


  30. Minister of Health Jeffrey Bostic

    The latest figures show 1 706 tests, yielding 214 new positive cases.
    55 of them are under age 18.
    Between September 1 and October 10, we have 872 cases of people 18 years and under.
    113 are in isolation as at 7 a.m. today.
    The tertiary facility at Harrison Point is being refitted with oxygen machines so it looks more like a secondary facility.
    There is an increase in the number of people quarantining at home.
    This had to be rolled out because of the increasing number of cases.
    The Ministry of Health is trying to move faster in removing people from home who need to go into isolation facilities.
    The roll-out of home isolation has not been perfect.
    We are experiencing delays in getting people out of home isolation to the isolation facilities for assessment.
    We expect in two or three days to be able to get to a point, where within 48 hours, we will be able to do everything.
    Transportation issues were dealt with to be able to respond in a timely manner.
    We started the process of retrofitting some vehicles to be able to transport people and entered partnerships with private operators.
    The elderly care facility in the catchment of the Branford Taitt Polyclinic is being well managed, as is the cluster at the Geriatric Hospital.
    Prime Minister Mia Mottley

    The PM Started by expressing sympathy to the passing of those with COVID.
    We do not feel mandating vaccines will work.
    We do not feel lockdowns will work and will lead to loss of jobs, closure of businesses.
    We need to start the process of safe zones.
    We need to have places where people are either vaccinated or recently tested.
    The Ministry of Health will lead the process of rolling out guidance notes in bite-sized chunks to make it manageable and sustainable.
    People will be tested based on risk.
    High risk: ICUs, A&E, urgent care facilities, isolation facilities, swabbing centres, nursing homes and outpatient clinics.
    Unvaccinated people in these high-risk areas will have to be tested once a week.
    Vaccinated people will have a less frequent regime of testing.
    Government will pay for the tests in public sector.
    The Prime Minister has written BAMP, Nurses Association and trade unions to indicate this will be done.
    After healthcare workers, there will be a guidance note for frontline workers, then tourism and hospitality workers, then workers in the education sector.
    We will meet with the business community and labour unions to see how we can create safe zones for patrons.
    60 per cent of the eligible population (people 12 and older) have already said we accept the responsibility to protect ourselves.
    142 543 people have taken a first jab up to 5 p.m. today.
    This country has remained stable because the majority of Barbados has done the right thing.
    I have confidence in our people, and they have proven us right.
    We are not doing incentives for people to take vaccines because Government has paid the bills for building the facilities, hired the staff, got the vaccines and done everything we had to do.
    7 000 single dose vaccines of Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccines will be coming at 10 a.m. on Tuesday from Guyana
    Government is still waiting on 14 000 Pfizer doses purchased through COVAX.


  31. HantsOctober 11, 2021 9:15 PM

    Minister of Health Jeffrey Bostic

    The latest figures show 1 706 tests, yielding 214 new positive cases.
    55 of them are under age 18.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Remember it was 300 plus a few days ago!!

    Cases dropping?

    What caused the drop

    Or just a random variable over which there is no control?

    Will it go up tomorrow or continue down?

    The problem is no one has gone back to first principles and analysed the problem.

    They are playing with numbers.

    I would argue the very randomness of nature regardless of protocols speaks volumes.

    I could make a good case for predicting it will continue to fall except that we have a major weather system on our doorstep.

    Looking at Dominica and Grenada It may very well be the cases will continue to fall.

    But I would be optimistic.

    If that happens I would argue that it meant the contamination in the water is finite and has passed for the moment.

    But then I would expect it to rise if we were to get alot of rain!!

    The randomness may be a function of the rain!!


    • @Sargeant

      It is a case where people working in determined areas have to be vaccinated or be regularly tested based on a declared frequency. At first instant it seems appointed healthcare units will be up first possibly followed by the hospitality sector.


  32. DavidOctober 12, 2021 12:44 AM

    @Sargeant

    It is a case where people working in determined areas have to be vaccinated or be regularly tested based on a declared frequency. At first instant it seems appointed healthcare units will be up first possibly followed by the hospitality sector.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Booster mandates will be required to ensure the vaccinated remain “safe” enough to be permitted entry to “safe” zones and avoid breakthrough infections which will render the “safe” zones unsafe for both the vaccinated and unvaccinated.


  33. JohnOctober 11, 2021 9:40 PM

    Once we understand it we can eradicate
    Xxxxxxcccc
    It cannot be eradicated which means a lifetime of booster shots every six months or weekly PCR test for the unvaccinated


  34. First out the box

    Atherley the leader of the opposition says safe zones is back door jab to mandatory vaccines


  35. The jab or the test

    by BARRY ALLEYNE barryalleyne@nationnews.com
    BARBADOS WILL SOON be introducing safe zones, where vaccinated people can work, socialise and even entertain in an environment in which they are less likely to be infected with the COVID-19 virus.
    This was revealed in a national address last night by Prime Minister Mia Amor Mottley, who said that would be the best way forward in the absence of a mandatory vaccination policy for the country.
    In a 40-minute speech from her official residence at Ilaro Court, Mottley said her Government had no intention of forcing people to put things into their bodies which they did not want to but preferred instead to find a balanced way of protecting the health of the country.
    “This is a difficult time for our nation, and our health system and our professionals have been under severe strain,” she said. “We have to see where we can fill the gaps. We have to find balance in what we do. We have a duty to create a safe space. People have to understand there will be consequences to the choices they make.”
    She explained that the safe zones, to be instituted in the coming weeks by the Ministry of Health and established in a priority framework, with the first guidance notes to be issued this week, was the most realistic option in finding such balance.
    “We have to start the safe zones, where we have places where people are either vaccinated or recently tested. At the end of the day, what matters is that you are safe and not in a position to put people at risk. So if you are not prepared to take the vaccine, then you would have to be prepared to be tested to assure the rest of us that as we mix at work or at places of entertainment or worship or at restaurants, that there must be a safe place.”
    The Prime Minister said 142 000 Barbadians had been vaccinated, just under 60 per cent of the eligible population, and now was the perfect time to introduce the safe zones.
    She said when the country does reach 70 per cent of eligible people in the population being inoculated, she would immediately review the current restrictions, including the 9 p.m. to 5 a.m. daily curfew.
    High-risk areas
    “We have to do this in a sustainable way, so we will test people based on risk,” she said about the proposed safe zones, noting that the Accident & Emergency Department of the Queen Elizabeth Hospital, swabbing centres, medical and surgical intensive care units, isolation facilities, nursing homes
    and outpatients clinics would be the first facilities entered into by the Ministry of Health to conduct testing.
    “Unvaccinated people in these high-risk areas would have to be tested at least once a week, or those who are living at home but depending on caregivers or generally sick,” she added.
    All testing in Government facilities will be paid for by the Government, and all workers in health care institutions will have priority testing.
    “If you are not going to mandate vaccines, you have to mandate safe environments, and that is what this Government is doing,” said Mottley.
    In response to a question from the media, she said she fully expected the country’s major sector, tourism, to have safe zones instituted after the vulnerable and front-line workers are taken care of, and before December 1.
    Workers in the education sector will also be tested to create safe zones when face-to-face classes do resume in Barbados.
    “Persons who are vaccinated will have a less frequent regime as the reality is they are less likely to catch it (COVID-19) and, if they do catch it, are less likely to be contagious,” the Prime Minister said.
    She said Ministry of Health officials would also be meeting with stakeholders in various sectors such as sporting associations, the entertainment industry and religious groups to figure out how best safe zones could be implemented.
    The Prime Minister added that owners of businesses in the restaurant and entertainment industry would also have the freedom to provide rapid antigen testing for patrons in an effort to create safe zones as well.
    In terms of her call last month to have 10 000 first doses of vaccines administered per week for five weeks, the Prime Minister said while the target had not been achieved, from September 1 up to yesterday, 30 482 people had received first jabs.

    Source: Nation


  36. No one seems to have twigged the vaccinated have breakthrough infections!!!

    Until it is eradicated there will be nowhere safe.


  37. .Of course if everybody ends up catching it then natural immunity will make it no more serious than a cold.

    I like the eradication thinking.


  38. Our Supreme Leader has already won the next elections with her brilliant move called safe zones.

    We simply have to declare the polling stations as safe zones and only allow vaccinated people or people with PCR test not older than 12 hours to vote there. This will ensure that no-vaxxers cannot participate in the election.


  39. @David
    It is a case where people working in determined areas have to be vaccinated or be regularly tested based on a declared frequency.
    ++++++++++++++++
    I am all for mandatory vaccinations especially for people working in front face jobs and those in the healthcare field. The Gov’t tactic seems to be mandatory vaccine “lite”; it wants to have it both ways i.e. placate businesses without alarming those who are adamantly opposed to vaccines, time will tell if that approach will work.

    Confucius say man who straddles fence ends up with sore crotch…..


    • @Sargeant

      Is it mandatory vaccination? It is about being vaccinated or be subjected to frequent PCR or some other test. Note the vaccinated will have to undergo testing as well but not as frequent.


  40. I am now finally satisfied with the current Corona policy. The sharply rising infection figures guarantee the natural immunisation of the population. However, we should still drive up the numbers here. The day of the proclamation of the republic would be a great opportunity to let our naïve native masks dance and become naturally immunised.

    This measure is combined with a quasi-vaccination duty for special professions. Very good.

    I would, however, have one suggestion for change: we should test much less. Fewer tests mean fewer official Corona cases. That would be immensely helpful in attracting more tourists to Barbados.


  41. Why do you blaspheme like this?
    What Supreme Leader what?
    Your Supreme Leader is supreme in one area ………….and in one area only…………one. …..and we all know what that is
    WHAT SAFE ZONES WHAT?
    WHEN HAS IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MEDICINE SUCH RUBBISH BEEN EVER IMPLEMENTED.
    ONLY A JACKASS THINKS THAT ASSEMBLANCE OF VACCINATED FOLK WILL COMPOSE ANY SAFE ZONES
    EVEN DR FALSE AND THE UNTRAINED MORON AT W H O DID NOT COME UP WITH SUCH A STUPID NEW PRETTY-COL.

    THE PROBLEM IN THE APPROACH TO THIS “”VIRUS”” IS THAT POLITICS AND POLITICIANS WANT TO CONTROL THE MEDICINE

    THE PROBLEM IN THE APPROACH TO THIS “”VIRUS”” IS THAT DIABOLICAL DOCTORS ON THE TAKE HAVE FORGOTTEN IN THIER GREED THE FIRST CONCEPT OF THE PRACTICE OF MEDICINE==> FIRST DO NO HARM

    THE PROBLEM IN THE APPROACH TO THIS “”VIRUS””ON THE ISLAND IS THAT WE NO LONGER HAVE PUBLIC HEALTH DRS WITH THE ABILITY OR GUTS LIKE FRANK RAMSEY VAUGHAN WELLS OR MAURICE BYER.

    THE PROBLEM IN THE APPROACH TO THIS “”VIRUS””ON THE ISLAND IS THAT YOUR :””SUPREME LEADER” IS REALLY NOT SUPREME AT ALL……..AND THE WRITING IS TRULY ON THE WALL.


  42. RE Confucius say man who straddles fence ends up with sore crotch…..
    AND LSW SAYS MEN WITH BIRDBRAIN TALKS SHITE

    NOW LISTERN TO THIS IDIOT
    —> I am now finally satisfied with the current Corona policy.
    WHAT IS YOUR TRAINING?
    WHAT DO YOU KNOW OF PUBLIC HEALTH PRACTICES? OF CORONA VIRUSES? OF VIROLOGY OR IMMUNOLOGY EXCEPT FOR WHAT YOU CUT AND PASTE FROM SOMEWHERE THAT YOU DONT UNDERSTAND.

    IT IS DEFINITELY TRUE ==>> UNTRAINED MEN WITH BIRD BRAINS TALK SHITE ABOUT THINGS THEY KNOW NAUGHT
    UNTRAINED MEN WITH BIRD BRAINS PROVIDES MUCH MIRTH IN BU RUM SHOP


  43. We should make the PCR tests in the safe zones as unpleasant as possible for the unvaccinated to drive them to vaccination. How about a daily test from behind, following the Chinese model?


  44. I love the safe zones.

    They will no longer be able to blame the unvaxxed for any transmissions in safe zone caused by the vaccinated.

    Constantly wearing masks and sanitizing hands has reduced our chances of developing some level of immunity due to cross-immunity achieved by exposure to other coronaviruses we encounter from day to day that helps keep our immune system in shape.


  45. @CA
    They will no longer be able to blame the unvaxxed for any transmissions in safe zone caused by the vaccinated.
    +++++++
    I support the rights of the unvaccinated to spread the virus among themselves, they will be eligible for a Darwin Award, surely you must have a few names of nominees at hand….


  46. @Sargeant

    I also support the rights of the vaccinated to spread the virus among themselves and not hide behind the skirts of the unvaccinated as say it is you unvaccinated spreading the virus.

    I am also happy they have categorized the cases numbers based on vaccination status so we can trace when the vaccine protection wanes and their numbers start rising.


  47. Blah blah blah! Open up evuhting!

    Let’s get the dying over with quickly and let those who remain get on with living!


  48. Tron October 12, 2021 8:42 AM
    We should make the PCR tests in the safe zones as unpleasant as possible for the unvaccinated to drive them to vaccination. How about a daily test from behind, following the Chinese model?

    Well even now they are uncomfortable and I know people in the “vaccine hesitant” group will trend towards getting the vaccine “jab”. That is my secondary (and partially nefarious) intention behind my vaccine \ PCR test mandate. A la the flu, I don’t predict the need for lifelong jabs for COVID-19. Since vaccines and boosters offers some protection against subsequent strains my hope is that “jabs” being the mainstream will wane after 12- 24 months. By then the accumulation of people with vaccine and naturally acquired immunity would further mute the virus with herd immunity


  49. SargeantOctober 12, 2021 8:20 AM

    Confucius say man who straddles fence ends up with sore crotch…..

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Did he ever say what happens if a woman straddles the fence?


  50. RE I don’t predict the need for lifelong jabs for COVID-19. Since vaccines and boosters offers some protection against subsequent strains my hope is that “jabs” being the mainstream will wane after 12- 24 months. By then the accumulation of people with vaccine and naturally acquired immunity would further mute the virus with herd immunity

    RE I? WHO ARE YOU? WHAT DO YOU KNOW THAT THE REAL SCIENCES DONT KNOW?
    RE I don’t predict the need for lifelong jabs for COVID-19.? ON WHAT BASIS? ON WHAT EVIDENCE DO YOU OPINE FROM YOUR OBVIOUSLY ECTOPIC SHELVES OF HOUSTON?

    RE Since vaccines and boosters offers some protection against subsequent strains
    HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS DUMMY? DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE POTENCY OF THE “subsequent strains”? TEACH US MAN TEACH US.

    RE my hope is that “jabs” being the mainstream will wane after 12- 24 months. By then the accumulation of people with vaccine and naturally acquired immunity would further mute the virus with herd immunity
    WHEN HAS EVER THE MAINSTREAM THERAPY FOR ANY PANDEMIC BEEN JABS THAT will wane after 12- 24 months.? DO YOU REALIZE THAT YOUR SENTENCE DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE………FAR LESS VIROLOGY OR IMUNOLOGY OR MEDICAL SENSE? EVEN THE LOWEST OF THE EQUINOIDS MAKE MORE SENSE WHEN THEY BRAY.

    I CAN HEY SEE THE the accumulation of people with vaccine and naturally acquired immunity would further mute the virus with herd immunity
    ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOUR PLOY WILL MUTE THE “MUTATIONS” YET TO BE DELIVERED,DUMMY? OR ARE THE SHELVES OF HOUSTON in your brain JUST LOST THE FUNCTION OF ITS Na+K+ ATP dependent pump?


  51. Has anyone looked at the numbers out of Brazil and correlated the surges in Existing Cases to the almost monthly floods?

    All we have to do is wait for the rain to stop!!!

    But if we want to eradicate the virus we need to find which water source(s) are periodically contaminated and shut it (them) down.

    Since the lower elevations of the Christ Church Dome (geological lingo) is where the most cases are found and the upper elevations appear to be relatively free, then it is through the reservoirs at the lower elevations that the virus is spread in the water.

    We can eliminate Fort George and its sources, probably Belle and New Market.

    We are then left with Codrington and the deSal plant.

    Since Codrington has a healthy Zone 1 protection like Belle and New Market there is only one source left to investigate, the deSal Plant.

    It is curious that Israel with 55% of its water from desal is in the trouble it is and on to Booster #4.

    If it is the desal plant shut it down until the process through which it produces contaminated water can be understood.

    The only Safe Zones we need is in our water.


  52. @ The AntiCovidiot League (aka DLP TV) October 12, 2021 10:39 AM

    Well, the nose tests don’t really hurt. If you want to drive people to vaccination, we need much thicker rods (at least 1 cm), which we ram almost to the brain.

    Best to have as many no-vaxxers watching this ordeal as possible to change their minds.


  53. Write out the dates of the flood and you will see that the only blanks in 2020 were in May and June, corresponding with the first fall.

    In 2021, floods let up after June and surprise surprise, the numbers have fallen.


  54. Could also be herd immunity as 21 million or 10% of the population have been tested positive for COVID (maybe in reality 60 million) and about 47 % have been vaccinated.


  55. GP October 12, 2021 11:18 AM
    “RE I? WHO ARE YOU? WHAT DO YOU KNOW THAT THE REAL SCIENCES DONT KNOW?
    RE I don’t predict the need for lifelong jabs for COVID-19.? ON WHAT BASIS? ON WHAT EVIDENCE DO YOU OPINE FROM YOUR OBVIOUSLY ECTOPIC SHELVES OF HOUSTON?”

    Is this the same MUMMIFIED PILE OF DUNG that knows of OTHER ADVERSE FATAL EFFECTS OF THE VACCINES BETTER THAN THE WHO AND FDA!!!!! it cant be the same G(arbage) P(ile)

    Tron October 12, 2021 11:41 AM
    “Well, the nose tests don’t really hurt. If you want to drive people to vaccination, we need much thicker rods (at least 1 cm), which we ram almost to the brain.
    Best to have as many no-vaxxers watching this ordeal as possible to change their minds.”

    I think for the Garbage P(ile) and the other covidiots that the rectum test for COVID-19 using those 1cm thick rods would be MOST APPROPRIATE!!!!!!!


  56. @Tron if such a rectum test was used I can see the vaccination rates INCREASE OVERNIGHT!!!!!! Longer lines will be seen at the vaccination points!!!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


  57. Dishonest politicians like Mia Mottley always give the populace a good definition of a – political hypocrite !

    Imagine on Brasstacks ,moments ago , she said since May 21, 2021 ( 3 rd anniversary of her BLP gov’t in office ) ……a lot of Bajans attacking her gov’t !

    Were those the words ….really …..of Mia Mottley , today ?

    When as opposition leader she spent all her time demonising the DLP ?

    Oh what a RADICAL……shame !!!


  58. GPOctober 12, 2021 11:18 AM
    ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOUR PLOY WILL MUTE THE “MUTATIONS” YET TO BE DELIVERED,DUMMY? OR ARE THE SHELVES OF HOUSTON in your brain JUST LOST THE FUNCTION OF ITS Na+K+ ATP dependent pump?

    A crusty old self-absorbed self- righteous fart like you should comprehend MY HOPE that a like the flu, even though boosters are made every year they are not used generally. That is because OVER TIME mankind has a developed a general (herd) immunity to the flu. However like the influenza virus we may see major variants of COVID-19 produce outbreaks in the future


  59. re Is this the same MUMMIFIED PILE OF DUNG that knows of OTHER ADVERSE FATAL EFFECTS OF THE VACCINES BETTER THAN THE WHO AND FDA!!!!! it cant be the same G(arbage) P(ile)

    HAVE YOU NOW AWAKEN FROM YOUR DRUNKEN STUPOR THOU MORON
    IT IS THE VERY SAME GP.. IT IS VIR IPSE. THE MAN HIMSELF, DUMMY.

    WHIST THOU NOT THAT THE CORRUPTION ON THE TAKE WHO AND FDA AND CDC KNOW WHAT I KNOW BUT ARE FORCED TO SUPPRESS THE FACTS?

    WHIST THOU NOT THAT GENUINE DOCTORS IN A CERTAIN COUNTRY HAVE BEEN, AND ARE BEING THREATENED FOR REVEALING THE TRUTH ABOUT THESE MATTERS?

    WHIST THOU NOT THAT I AM RECIEVING CURRENT INFO FROM REPUTABLE SOURCES DAILY?

    RE I think for the Garbage P(ile) and the other covidiots that the rectum test for COVID-19 using those 1cm thick rods would be MOST APPROPRIATE!!!!!!!

    WHAT DO YOU THINK WITH? YOUR RECTUM? YOU SEEM FIXATED ON RECTUMS………OR SHOULD DAT BE RECTA?

    WHY IS IT THAT BECAUSE YOU LIKE SOMEONE PLAYING WITH YOUR NETHER REGIONS, THAT YOU THINK THAT EVERYONE THAT DISAGREES WITH YOUR IGNORANCE IS OF YOUR ILK

    IF YOU KNOW THE MEDICINE BETTER THAN I DO COME AND TEACH ME MAN.
    I AM WILLING TO LAUGH AT YOU AND MOCK YOU FOR PART OF MY ENTERTAINEMENT. ALL DAY


  60. RE ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOUR PLOY WILL MUTE THE “MUTATIONS” YET TO BE DELIVERED,DUMMY? OR ARE THE SHELVES OF HOUSTON in your brain JUST LOST THE FUNCTION OF ITS Na+K+ ATP dependent pump?

    FIRST WHEN ISAY THAT YOU HAVE SHELVES OF HOUSTON in your brain I AM POLITELY SAYING THAT THERE IS PART OF YOUR RECTUM ECTOPICALLY PLACED IN YOUR BRAIN MATTER, THE REASON WHY YOU TALK SO MUCH SHITE

    SECOND WHEN I SAY YOUR ECTOPIC RECTUM IN YOUR BRAIN HAS LOST THE FUNCTION OF ITS Na+K+ ATP dependent pump, I AM SAYING THAT THE METAPLASTIC OR/AND RECTAL MUCOSA CAN NOT ACHIEVE BALANCE, SO THAT YOUR BULLSHITTING ON MEDICAL MATTERS IS LIKE DIARRHOEA

    A crusty old self-absorbed self- righteous fart
    NOT TRUE JUST A SO CALLED RETIREE THAT KNOWS THAT HE KNOWS ABOUT WHAT HE IS TALKING WHO IS ABLE TO CONTRADICT YOUR RUBBISH
    YOU CAN ONLY RESPOND BY YOUR FEEBLE ATTEMPTS AT INSULTING BUT YOU CAN NOT REBUT ANYTHING I SAY WITH THE SCIENCE……BECAUSE YOU DO NOT KNOW ANY SCIENCE
    SO I JUST PLAY WITH YOU AS A CAT PLAYS WITH A MOUSE OR A BIG CAT PLAYS WITH ITS CAPTURED PREY

    RE like you should comprehend MY HOPE that a like the flu, even though boosters are made every year they are not used generally.

    DUMMY I HAVE LONG CONCLUDED THAT THIS “”VIRUS”” IS MOST UNUSUAL—THIS IS NOTHING LIKE THE FLU WHICH INCIDENTIALLY IS ALSO CALLED BY RESPIRATORY SYNCTIAL VIRUSES. MY HOPE IS IN CHRIST NOT IN ANY MAN MADE VACCINES WHICH ARE IN THEMSELVES REALLY BOGUS.

    RE That is because OVER TIME mankind has a developed a general (herd) immunity to the flu.

    AND YET MILLIONS DIE FROM THE FLU YEARLY. BUT THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA DO NOT MAKE HOOP AND HUPLA ABOUT IT, YA IDIOT

    RE However like the influenza virus we may see major variants of COVID-19 produce outbreaks in the future

    DUMMY THE VARIANTS HAVE LONG BEEN PREPARED….THEY JUST HAVE TO BE RELEASED AT THE DETERMINED TIMES IN THE DETERMINED PLACES, DUMB DUMB

    A PACK OF CARDS TENDS TO COME WITH ONE OR TWO JOKERS
    BUT YOU ARE A WHOLE PACK OF CARDS COMPOSED OF ALL JOKERS. YOU ARE A WANNA BEE LIKE DPD. AND YOU GIVE A BORED FELLA OCCASION FOR MUCH MIRTH IN THE RUM SHOP

    YOU REMIND ME OF THE DAY THAT SEYMOUR NURSE BEAT UTON DOWE OUT OF FIRST CLASS CRICKET AT KENSINGTON AFTER KIETH STACKPOLE HAD BEAT HIM OUT OF TEST CRICKET AT SABINA PARK

    KEEP RUNNING IN AND BOUNCING AND PITCHING IT UP


  61. The PM was very evasive when the question was posed as to who would bear the cost of the weekly tests for the unvaccinated working in private businesses with safe zones. I don’t think the businesses will pay nor should they be required to, if an individual doesn’t want to pay then they are on their own.


  62. @Sargeant October 12, 2021 2:23 PM “I don’t think the businesses will pay nor should they be required to.”

    I dunno.

    My Little Johnny in Ontario has been Covid19 tested twice per week since last October, A unionised workplace. The employer pays a nurse to come on site totest all employees. Was vaccinated in the spring, still being tested. A positive test means don’t come to work.

    It has been working quite well.


  63. @GP October 12, 2021 12:18 PM “WHY IS IT THAT BECAUSE YOU LIKE SOMEONE PLAYING WITH YOUR NETHER REGIONS, THAT YOU THINK THAT EVERYONE THAT DISAGREES WITH YOUR IGNORANCE IS OF YOUR ILK.”

    The truth is that we all like to have our areas below the waist played with. The only variables are time, place and person.


    • @Hants

      Our employment laws may be different. We will soon know because the Hill Milling matter is about to be tested in court.


  64. @GP October 12, 2021 12:41 PM “…THE VARIANTS HAVE LONG BEEN PREPARED,THEY JUST HAVE TO BE RELEASED AT THE DETERMINED TIMES IN THE DETERMINED PLACES.”

    Can you please provide the citation for this?

    Thanks.


  65. @Cuhdear

    I would hazard a guess that your “little Johnny” works at a business where all the employees are vaccinated and the Employer out of an abundance of caution requests those tests. If that is the case then the situation is different from one where some employees refuse the vaccine.


  66. RE Can you please provide the citation for this?
    PLEASE CHECK TO SEE IF IT IS IN THE NEW HYMN AND PRAYER BOOK USED AT ALL SAINTS AND ELSEWHERE IN THE ARCH DIOCESE


    • @TLSN

      The Pfizer vaccine is prevalent in Portugal?

      Here is the last paragraph of the link:

      “The study’s final conclusion reads: “In summary, even as efforts should be made to encourage populations to get vaccinated it should be done so with humility and respect. Stigmatizing populations can do more harm than good. Importantly, other non-pharmacological prevention efforts (e.g., the importance of basic public health hygiene with regards to maintaining safe distance or handwashing, promoting better frequent and cheaper forms of testing) needs to be renewed in order to strike the balance of learning to live with COVID-19 in the same manner we continue to live a 100 years later with various seasonal alterations of the 1918 Influenza virus”.


  67. WE ARE HERE WITNESSING GROSS IGNORANCE BIAS LACK OF COMPREHENSION OR GOD KNOWS WHAT
    THIS IS WHAT THE FIRST PART OF THE LINK THAT TLSN POSTED
    INTERPRET IT FOR YOURSELF

    467 fully-vaccinated people die from Covid-19 since start of Portugal’s vaccination process
    By Natasha Donn -9th October 2021

    “Since the start of the vaccination process in this country, 467 people who were totally vaccinated against the new coronavirus have died, shows a report published on Friday on ‘red lines’ by the national institute of health Dr Ricardo Jorge (INSA). In spite of this, according to the document, the risk of death through Covid infection is two to four times less in people with complete vaccination”.

    This is the opening paragraph of a report in ECO online, which goes on to show the latter assertion on questionable ground.

    For example, of those 467 deaths, 126 occurred in September, when the fully-vaccinated, says ECO, was equivalent to 58% of the total number of deaths.

    “This tranche is superior to the people who died with vaccination incomplete (13 deaths, 6%) and people whose vaccination status was unknown (4), says the report. In other words, more vaccinated people died than non-vaccinated”.

    This can easily be explained by the fact that the vaccines lose efficacy over time (click here), particularly in the elderly (click here) – and Portugal has now reached a point where 85% of the country is fully-vaccinated, so there is a far higher risk of people dying (of anything) being fully-vaccinated than non-vaccinated.

    But what this report ties into is studies being undertaken in the wider sphere, which are showing how high levels of vaccination don’t seem to be protecting populations from incidences of Covid-19. Again, this isn’t ‘a shock’: it has been clear for months that the vaccine does not stop transmission or infection. But a study published only 10 days ago actually cites Portugal as being a clear example of how ‘high levels of vaccination’ are not simply not effective against incidence, they seem to be linked to it.

    NOW COMPARE THIS WITH THE COMMENT IN THE POST ABOVE BY KING DAVID


  68. The vaccine doesn’t miraculously stop you from being anxious and full of fear.

    It doesn’t stop you from being a diabetic or obese.

    It doesn’t cure lung ailments

    If you had comorbidities before you took the vaccine, you will have them after.

    I would think anyone with comorbidities would not want to catch COVID, vaccinated or not.


  69. Cuhdear BajanOctober 12, 2021 3:12 PM

    @GP October 12, 2021 12:41 PM “…THE VARIANTS HAVE LONG BEEN PREPARED,THEY JUST HAVE TO BE RELEASED AT THE DETERMINED TIMES IN THE DETERMINED PLACES.”

    Can you please provide the citation for this?

    Thanks.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Looka who dey let out the asylum.

    Glad to see you back.


  70. @angela cox October 12, 2021 5:15 AM “It cannot be eradicated”

    And you know this how?

    It took us about 12,000 years to eradicate smallpox, but eventually it was done.

    I think that you are being way too impatient.


  71. 467 vaccinated people died in Portugal.

    So, how many deaths in Portugal after vaccinations had reached say 10%?

    Currently the rate is at 84%.

    It reached 10% in early May.

    May 1st 2021, the cumulative deaths in Portugal were 16,976.

    On October 11th 2021, the cumulative total was 18,048.

    So 1,072 deaths over the period of which 467 were vaccinated.

    So roughly 45/55 split for deaths in Portugal.

    I’d guess it is the same thing all over the world.

    I flat do not believe 1/99 being bandied about for the simple reason that the vaccinated group will have in most of the comorbidities as these will have been specifically targeted.

    Once again, the vaccination does not miraculously change/cure your comorbidities.

    Whatever you had before you will have after.


  72. @🐰
    Here is a different spin.
    Prior to mass vaccination people were dropping like flies -16,976.

    After mass vaccination there were only 1,072 deaths.

    The vaccine is highly protective with only the seriously ill vaccinated or unvaccinated dying.


  73. Personally, I hope that our government will move to daily “Chinese” testing at Winston Clarke after the recent announcement. He might even like that. Who knows.


  74. Ah Grasshopper, you know I ain’t going to get caught like that!!!

    Look at the graph for cumulative deaths for Portugal!!

    You will find the deaths took place over a very narrow range of time, even before the advent of the Delta Variant!!

    So what you think was different in Portugal in that narrow period of time?

    One guess!!


  75. JOHN
    THE QUESTION IS WAS THE AUTHOR OF THE ARTICLE HONEST AND ACCURATELY PRESENTING THE FACTS WHEN HE SAID……..

    467 fully-vaccinated people die from Covid-19 since start of Portugal’s vaccination process
    By Natasha Donn -9th October 2021

    “Since the start of the vaccination process in this country, 467 people who were totally vaccinated against the new coronavirus have died, shows a report published on Friday on ‘red lines’ by the national institute of health Dr Ricardo Jorge (INSA). In spite of this, according to the document, the risk of death through Covid infection is two to four times less in people with complete vaccination”.

    OF COURSE THERE IS MUCH MORE DAMNING INFORMATION IN THE ARTICLE ………WHICH IS TOTALLY AT VARIANCE WITH THE PARAGRAPH WITH THE RESEDENT VIROLOGIST WHOSE UNWORTHY EDUCATION IN THIS FIELD WAS OBTAINED ONLY BY CUTTING AND PASTING WITH OUT THE UNDERSTANDING


  76. If you take the beginning part of the graph and the ending part of the graph you will see there is not much different.

    Similar numbers of deaths.

    It’s the piece between the 2 vertical blue lines that need explaining.

    Look at the cases.

    Three environmental events triggered the rises.

    https://imgur.com/MX6C1bl

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