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Like a recurring decimal crime it is one of the issues we have been unable to arrest. We scoffed at David Thompson’s 1999 political campaign slogan ‘crime and violence’, before that an Attorney General Maurice King assured a suspicious public there were no gangs in Barbados. Then there was the famous ‘me hands tied’ song made famous by lyrical master RPB referring to Commissioner of Police Orville Durant at the time. What has replaced PAREDOS? How can we forget the tinkering by the Police Services Commission by politicians? What about the moribund police Service Authority?

It has been reported Commissioner of Police (COP) Tyrone Griffith will be retiring very soon. The blogmaster shared the concerns of those who suggest a more visible COP was required in the last decade and maybe partly responsible for the predicament we find ourselves. The country is being punished with escalating violent crime with 100 murders recorded in the period 2018 to present.

Has the time come for an expat Commissioner of Police to be recruited? We have the experiences of Trinidad and Jamaica to reference. Canadians Dwayne Gibbs and Jack Ewatski were contracted in 2010 by the Trinidad government and after a brief stint were forced to tender resignations in 2012. There was Englishman Mark Shields who also served briefly in the role of deputy Commissioner of police in the Jamaica constabulary. He is remembered for his role in the mysterious death of Pakistan cricket coach Bob Wolmer.

Do we have a Gary Griffith personality type available in the Bajan recruitment pool? Barbados is a small island and makes the job of finding a Gary Griffith personality very difficult given the incestuous nature of relationships. The other question is whether a Gary Griffith type personality would be given sufficient room to operate in Barbados.

We are at the crossroads.

Political leaders from both sides have made political decisions that are coming back to haunt ordinary Barbadians. It is never too late to do the right thing. However, based on the blogmaster’s walk about underground we may have crossed the point of no return. The politicians are hapless how to pull crime back because like the coronavirus it has hopped from the underworld OUR world.

Enforcement is one element on meting out justice. For chrissakes let us TRY to get this appointment right with Tyrone Griffith’s replacement. There is credit at least in making the decision based on merit and not cronyism.

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110 responses to “Hunt for Local Gary Griffith to Replace Tyrone Griffith”

  1. David Avatar
    David

    Crimestoppers in a financial bind

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    Article by Emmanuel Joseph
    Published on
    June 3, 2021

    Crime Stoppers Barbados (CSB) is desperately in need of a financial lifeline in order to continue serving this country.

    The local branch, which facilitates anonymous crime tips, sustain an anger management programme in schools and leads a whistleblowing initiative for the business sector warned on Wednesday that it may no longer be able to maintain this service which it had been rendering for the past 12 years, if it does not get an injection of funding urgently.

    While not specifying a figure for the funding required, a senior official of CSB, who preferred not to be named, told Barbados TODAY that the organisation already pays for the regular 1-800-8477 tips telephone line and was forced to charge businesses for its revamped Integrity Line which allows concerned persons to report crime or other destructive behaviour occurring within a business.

    The official explained that while most businesses that have been offered the service embrace it, only one has so far jumped onboard over the past two years, with the others blaming the current economic downturn in the economy for not being able to pay for the line.

    The Crime Stoppers Barbados spokesperson said that unlike the case of the 1-800 line service where the information provided anonymously by the public is passed unto the local police for investigation and action, the tips through the Integrity Line are channelled directly back to the employer who would normally seek to resolve the matter internally.

    The local entity said it also approached the Government to offer the Integrity Line service but the story was the same as with the majority of businesses, which declined to pay for the line.

    The Integrity Line, Crime Stoppers told Barbados TODAY is a dynamic and useful communication tool for employees who feel uncomfortable using formal communication channels to report what they know and remain anonymous in the process. Crime Stoppers promotes it as a simple, low-cost deterrent against inappropriate workplace behaviour, which provides protection from negative publicity by allowing management to deal with issues internally while demonstrating to stakeholders that there is a commitment to instil and preserve a culture of honesty and integrity whilst complying with relevant codes of good corporate governance.

    Over the past 10 years, CSB received 25,483 tips, 306 of the cases reported to the police were cleared, 242 charges were laid and 133 arrests made.

    The organisation is also reporting that it paid out just under $2,300 to persons who provided tips that proved useful, recovered well over $259,000 worth in property. Tips resulted in $2.2 million in illegal drugs being seized.

    The Crime Stoppers official also pointed out that the most common crimes reported to the tips lines are gun violence and illicit drugs.

    With Barbados now experiencing a resurgence in gun crime and violent deaths and more recently, public outrage over a music video that has gone viral promoting and glorifying gun crimes, Crime Stoppers sees the need for its service now more than ever.

    “If we don’t get sponsorship, we will not be able to continue our service. We need sponsorship. I would like this to get over to the public,” the official stated. (emmanueljoseph@barbadostoday.bb)

  2. Dompey Avatar
    Dompey

    Crusoe

    Your opinion of Lion Man leaves much to be desired because Lion Man policed through Fear and Intimidation, and a good Detective knows that you cannot allow your emotions to guide your investigation, only the facts and the forensics.

  3. Dompey Avatar
    Dompey

    Crusoe

    One thing is certain, if and when the current Commissioner of Police retires, and the BLP crony Deputy Commissioner of Police Oral Williams should get the job, it will be the same old same old.

  4. David Avatar
    David

    Man’s inhumanity to man.

    https://trib.al/3a2C93q

  5. Crusoe Avatar
    Crusoe

    DompeyJune 3, 2021 6:23 AM CrusoeYour opinion of Lion Man

    You may be technically correct, but hearing what he used to do, go in a building alone and come out with multiple culprits, I still support him 100%.

    Lion indeed. Like it or not, sometimes you need that.

    Too much namby pamby and correctness and the idiots get to hide behind a lawyer tails.

  6. John A Avatar
    John A

    @ dompey

    You ever heard of a motorcycle officer called Cyrus that ruled the roads way back? One man basically kept order on much of the roads then. How come today we can’t do the same? Why do we have 30 and 40 motorcycles riding around on the rear wheels every Sunday? What went wrong?

  7. Dompey Avatar
    Dompey

    John A

    I heard of him, but I never met him or he was probably before my time, but I knew a motorcycle name Teethica who ruled the road in the 1980s, but unfortunately, he got fired for some unknown reason. I also knew Blades and Greenidge, ….the Mounted Man Judicest younger brother who ruled the road during the 70s and 80s.

  8. Dompey Avatar
    Dompey

    John A

    Fear and Intimidation has no place in the Force of today; there has to be a mutual or reciprocal respect or working relationship between Law Enforcement and the General Public, in order for there to be a positive impact on the current trend in the pervasive escalation of violent crime in our society.
    But there seems to be an adversarial or distrustful relationship between Law Enforcement and the General Public, and this only makes matters worse in the quest to quell the phenomenal proliferation of violent crime.

  9. Artax Avatar
    Artax

    “Remember Dudus Coke? It may yet come to that. If it gets any worse, it surely will.”

    @ David

    Mentioning ‘Dudus Coke’ reminded me of when the Crime Management Unit (CMU), led by Senior Superintendent of Police Reneto Adams, went into Tovoli Gardens looking for gunmen and weapons. 27 People were killed

    The CMU was a paramilitary styled, elite police anti-crime squad, consisting of 8 police officers that was formed in 2000 to combat Jamaica’s escalating violent crime.

    On Wednesday, March 14, 2001, the CMU conducted an operation in Braeton, during which 7 young men between the ages of 15 and 20 years old, (now known as the ‘Braeton Seven),’ were killed. Amnesty International accused Adams of being responsible for human rights abuses including extra-judicial killings and executions.

    On Tuesday, May 7, 2003, four people, including two women, were killed during a shoot-out with members of the CMU in Kraal, Clarendon.
    The Unit was subsequently disbanned on Monday, June 9, 2003 and after several weeks of investigations, Adams and five members of the CMU were charged with murder. However, they were acquitted in December, 2005 and the Adams was assigned to a desk in the office of the Commissioner of Police.

    In 2007, Adams was among several senior police officers who applied for the post of Police Commissioner. Several Jamaicans were in favour of him being appointed to the job. However, the hierarchy changed the qualifying requirement so that candidates must have a degree, thereby automatically disqualifying him and, in 2008, he retired from the Jamaica Constabulary Force (JCF).

    The US banned the six members of the CMU and their relatives from traveling there.

    Despite being regarded as one of Jamaica’s most feared crime-fighters of all time and idolized in dub songs, Adams and the CMU used the gangster methods against them, resulting in alleged human rights abuses.

    Interestingly, for reasons similar to that of Jamaica, Trinidad and Guyana created similar anti-crime squads.

    I gave BU this EXAMPLE to ask a simple question, is Barbados is ready for a Gary Griffith or Rento Adams type Commissioner of Police, the resulting consequences and the accompanying scrutiny by the international human rights agencies?

    I agree with Dompey’s comments re:

    “Fear and Intimidation has no place in the Force of today; there has to be a mutual or reciprocal respect or working relationship between Law Enforcement and the General Public, in order for there to be a positive impact on the current trend in the pervasive escalation of violent crime in our society.”

    There must be a balance.

  10. David Avatar
    David

    @Artax

    Is it about being ready or doing what has to be done to remove the crime cancer. Bear in mind an attack on crime requires a muliprong approach. We tend to focus on the end stage of the issue In Barbados. What about the justice system? What about stakeholders in civil society participation etc. what about holding politicians and security forces accountable. What about ensuring PSA and other oversight bodies do what is mandated of them etc etc.

  11. Dompey Avatar
    Dompey

    Artax

    You had forgotten to mentioned that Adams, and several others Jamaican Police officers ( think of the said Unit) were arrested and put on trial for murder charges which he beat, and subsequently there after the Trump Administration banned Adams and his family from entering the US, because of what the Trump Administration called human rights violations.
    Adams, then in an interview stated unequivocally, that he did not wish to visited the States, because the country was one big ghetto.

  12. Dompey Avatar
    Dompey

    In the middle 80s, when I first arrived in the States, I met a Jamaican Ex-Police Officer who was a member of a then Police Unit similar to that of Adams called ( the Eradication Squad), and these Police men would travelled the 14 parishes of Jamaica eliminating violent criminals. So what Adams had done weren’t anything new, because it was part and parcel of the Police culture of Jamaica.

  13. Dompey Avatar
    Dompey

    Artax

    And to understand criminal culture of Jamaica, is to understand why the Jamaican Police Force need men like Adams and the above mentioned friend, because they are certain places in Jamaica police dare not go for fear of getting shot at and possibly killed.
    So the Jamaican Police and the Jamaican Army operates jointly when enter into these dangerous area of the country because if it is one thing the Jamaican criminal element fear the most is the soldier.

  14. Dompey Avatar
    Dompey

    Artax

    Before Adams Bigger Ford, who is now a member of the Jamaican Police Hierarchy, was feared and respected by the the Criminal Element of Jamaica.
    However, when Adams was sent to quelled the rebellion in Tivoli Garden, he was not yet a member of the Infamous Unit he headed.

  15. John A Avatar
    John A

    Do you all honestly think based on where we are that one can sit down and reason with these thugs?

    If you do you living in lala land as that time long past. The disregard for human life and love for the bling life style have long replaced reason with these guys, as a dead police 2 weeks ago is evidence of.

  16. Dompey Avatar
    Dompey

    John A

    Do you honestly believe that the deceased officer identity himself as a Police officer to those criminals? I do not believe he did, so how could you concluded that the youths of today do not have any respect for the Law Enforcers?

  17. TheOGazerts Avatar
    TheOGazerts

    “Do you honestly believe that the deceased officer identity himself as a Police officer to those criminals? I do not believe he did, …?”
    So if John believes he did and you do not, who is correct? Please continue to direct your responses to John A

  18. Dompey Avatar
    Dompey

    John A

    the youths of today’s can easily concluded that the criminals of the 70s hadn’t any respect for the Law Enforcers as well. Because Dr. Rat, Buddy Brathwaite, Theophilus Pile, Big Michael, Sand Fly, Mark Young, Harding, Hall, Bradshaw, Oliver and Bend Toe etc have used violence against the police.

  19. Dompey Avatar
    Dompey

    John A

    the first Police officer on scene during the murder of the plantation owner Sisnet was an uniform officer, when Peter Bradshaw, David Oliver and company shot out one of his eyes.

  20. John A Avatar
    John A

    @ Dompey

    What we are seeing now is not a handful of bad criminals like buddy Brathwaite and the ones mentioned above, but a blatant disregard across the board for law and order. There is a difference between a criminal element and what we are seeing here today. You have the bike boys, the Zr boys, the drug boys etc etc etc. What we have here is a lack of respect for law across the board and yes a handful of Rat Brown’s will send the message that enough is enough. One thing is for sure what we are doing now ain’t working. How much more will it take to convince you and others that the horse done left the stable? Will we wait then till tourism returns and these thugs shoot a few tourist and Rob them to take note?

    We are a talk nuff and do little society that has always been our problem.

  21. Dompey Avatar
    Dompey

    John A

    And the reason Peter Bradshaw who sat on Death Row for years, escaped the hangman rope, was because of the torture he sustained at the hands of police. Bradshaw, lawyers appealed his case to the Privy Council, on the basis of the torture Bradshaw sustained at the hands of police, and won the case, and the Queen of England granted him the pardon, and Bradshaw escaped the hangman loose.

  22. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Where has that thuggish approach to policing ever worked????

    Is it working in Chicago????

    As David says, this must be a multiprong approach. All you guys know is roughing up stupid little black boys. What about their lords and masters?

  23. Dompey Avatar
    Dompey

    John A

    the moral decadence we are witnessing today regarding the our young people stemmed the total moral breakdown of the tapestry of the society, where the Institutions of the Home, School and Church, no longer influence the behaviour of the youths.

  24. Dompey Avatar
    Dompey

    John A

    the reason I know that the days of beating suspects until their feet with a hammer is over, and the day of wrapping suspects up in plastic and beating the day light out of you is here.
    Is because my elder brother daughter who lives in Barbados, got arrested in a domestic dispute involving her boyfriend, and for some reason she fought the police and was arrested and taken to the station, where she was wrapped in plastic and beaten. This she share with my elder brother here in the States and that is the honest truth.

  25. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Heard about that wrapping in plastic thing long ago. Did not know they beat women that way too. Thought they only hit them from behind with heavy telephone books to the head.

    Who can respect police who behave like thugs and break the law???

    As I told the station sargeant at Oistins, you reap what you sow.

  26. Dompey Avatar
    Dompey

    Donna
    did not know that they beat woman either until my niece told my brother the name of the police that beat her….one of the young CID detectives…

  27. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Dompey,

    A cousin of mine told me about the telephone book she was hit with on the head. Acting on a malicious tip and with no evidence that sick man hit that bone bird full force. Left her with a permanent headache problem. No charges were ever filed because she was innocent. She lodged a complaint that went nowhere.

    All those people calling for tough policing know nothing about police practices in Barbados.

    Or they don’t care that the law enforcers are the law breakers.

  28. TheOGazerts Avatar
    TheOGazerts

    It appears that these beatings are not reserved for the bad boys. If police are beating both good and bad then they may find themselves without the support of the ‘good’ folks.

    The good, the bad and the police is a step towards a police state.

    There is so much to be corrected.

  29. TheOGazerts Avatar
    TheOGazerts

    These past few days have extremely rough. What I see is a society that’s failing in many areas.

    —Just for the Miller—
    As I think of the many issues confronting Barbados, I can recall a story of a young Dutch lad who saved his country by sticking his fingers in a hole in a dyke. However, there appears to be more dykes with cracks than Bajans have fingers.

    Just too many dykes in Barbados.

  30. Miller Avatar
    Miller

    “@ The OGazertsJune 3, 2021 7:38 PM

    Brilliant! Absolutely brilliant!

    The grasshopper Miller has met his master when it comes to the use of Literary techniques while looking through the (fragile) glass of life:

    Maybe the Admiral MAM has met ‘its’ Waterloo and has fallen from a Joan of Arc to a Jezebel in the eyes of the passengers aboard the SS Bajan Titanic.

    When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.”

    “The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.”

    “The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master – – that’s all.”

  31. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    We may be bad but we en mad!

  32. Crusoe Avatar
    Crusoe

    John AJune 3, 2021 1:55 PM Do you all honestly think based on where we are that one can sit down and reason with these thugs?
    If you do you living in lala land as that time long past. The disregard for human life and love for the bling life style have long replaced reason with these guys, as a dead police 2 weeks ago is evidence of.

    ‘I understand what you are saying, but think that the change is more about an increase i those who do not respect authority and less that it never existed.

    Buddy Brathwaite used to throw dynamite at the police. Harding was probably the most dangerous and irreversible criminal ever to live on these shores.

    Yuh Brudda allegedly only escaped so many times because of who his rumoured father was. But periodically gangs surfaced, to eventually confront the police and be suitably dispatched.

    The problem now is that drugs, guns and money have given backing to these sorts and even created more.

  33. Crusoe Avatar
    Crusoe

    DompeyJune 3, 2021 9:11 AMJohn AFear and Intimidation has no place in the Force of today; there has to be a mutual or reciprocal respect or working relationship between Law Enforcement and the General Public,

    Examine that statement in its entirety. You should then understand why the statement exhibits the qualities of an oxymoron. Of course, you may counter argue that ‘General Public’ is a term of specific connotation, with respect to the ‘good people of Barbados’. Ha.

    But General Public in this context means the public ‘other than the Police’. When the public is rife with those, at all levels, who benefit from the drug trade and are complicit in the provision and use of guns and violence, inherently there can be no ‘working relationship’. Of course, some may counter that argument with recent, ahem…events, wherein certain people seem to span various lifestyles. Is it cooperation out of necessity and your ‘working relationships’?

    This is made more complex by the reliance, just as with Coke, of communities on certain individuals.

    Hence why I bring up your reference above, textbook though it is, moral though it is, as an oxymoron when considering the realities.

    When we realise this, we must accept that the solution takes on a whole new aspect and needs to be looked at using a method that, instead of merely being a roadmap focusing on incidents and localised areas, needed though that is, in the first instance, the plan then must become an umbrella solution, covering funding sources, international links, distribution etc etc.

    Because ultimately there are only two causes, we know that. The drugs trade is one, the second is greed or poverty, depending on where the various individuals or groups derive from.

  34. Artax Avatar
    Artax

    Dompey June 3, 2021 12:29 PM #: “You had forgotten to mentioned that Adams, and several others Jamaican Police officers ( think of the said Unit) were arrested and put on trial for murder charges which he beat, and subsequently there after the Trump Administration banned Adams and his family from entering the US, because of what the Trump Administration called human rights violations.”

    @ Dompey

    It’s clear you did not read my contribution.

    Artax June 3, 2021 11:45 AM #:

    “Adams and five members of the CMU were charged with murder. However, they were acquitted in December, 2005 and the Adams was assigned to a desk in the office of the Commissioner of Police.”

    “The US banned the six members of the CMU and their relatives from traveling there.”

  35. Artax Avatar
    Artax

    Dompey June 3, 2021 12:56 PM

    As the old people would say, ‘you too love uh argument.’ The problem with you is, when confronted with new information, you rush to Google and present the ‘first set’ of information you see as the ‘Gospel according to Luke,’ and then ‘speak authoritatively’ on the subject to make it seem as though you ‘know wuh gine on.’

    I thought you would’ve learnt your lesson from your erroneous argument that prostitution is legal in Barbados because ‘it’s all over Google’ that it is.

    RE: “Before Adams Bigger Ford, who is now a member of the Jamaican Police Hierarchy, was feared and respected by the the Criminal Element of Jamaica.”

    If you had done a bit more research, you would have known Former Senior Superintendent Cornwall ‘Bigga’ Ford is NOT now a member of the Jamaican Police Hierarchy. He RETIRED from the JCF in December, 2015.

    The argument is not about who came ‘before or after,’ but about who Jamaicans regard as the most feared and respected police officer of all time.

    RE: “However, when Adams was sent to quelled the rebellion in Tivoli Garden, he was not yet a member of the Infamous Unit he headed.”

    WRONG AGAIN.

    In September, 2000, then Prime Minister & Minister of Defence, P.J. Patterson named Senior Superintendent of Police, Reneto Adams, to head the NEWLY CREATED Crime Management Unit.

    One of the main units involved in the operation described as a raid for illegal arms stock in the Tivoli Gardens, West Kingston on Saturday, July 7, 2001, was the Crime Management Unit, headed by Senior Superintendent Reneto Adams.

    I suggest you read the Report of the West Kingston Commission of Inquiry and Amnesty International reports.

  36. Dompey Avatar
    Dompey

    Artax

    You are so wrong about me Sir because the reality, I never really google that much, and most of my information about Adams Whom I did actually know until my Jamaican wife told me many stories about this man came from reading about him, and watching interviews he has done on Utube. However, as I have said to you: I live in the United States and in a States with the largest Jamaican population in this country, so my entire life in the States is/ were centered around Jamaicans and the Jamaican culture.
    As well as two of my brothers are married to Jamaican as well as myself, so there is no need for me to Google anything about Adams, because his name is mentioned in casual conversation in the Jamaican stores, and restaurants here Sir.

  37. Dompey Avatar
    Dompey

    Artax

    I am not the type who like to Google to ascertain information for anything, because most of what I know comes from actually reading books, articles, watching videos and dialoguing with people.
    Sir, my entire juvenile as well as my adult life has been centered around the library in Bridgetown and in St. Peter, and as an adults in practical every Library in the surrounding town here in the States where I live, so again Sir,
    ( and commit this to your standard memory bank) I am not the type who like to google, I prefer to ascertain my facts from reading books, articles, watching videos, and dialoguing with people.

  38. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Oh dear! Some of us are slow to realise that Artax will outdo us in the research department.

    My lazy behind asks him to do the research for me.

    Learn to appreciate and avail yourself of the strengths of other people!

    It’s the smart thing to do.

  39. Dompey Avatar
    Dompey

    Artax

    And finally, I took an American Government class in college years ago with a professor who was from Nigerian Africa, and in dialogue in the class, I said to the professor: ” Nelson Mandela was the first person to induced violence in the ANC fight again Apartheid.”
    And the professor swore in front of the entire class that he did not, until I brought him the facts in the following class.
    But what the professor did not know or had failed to consider is the fact that I had read Nelson Mandela autobiography, Long Walk to Freedom, in which Mandela made mentioned of this fact, and the professor had no choice but to recapitulated.

  40. Artax Avatar
    Artax

    Dompey June 4, 2021 5:27 AM

    Please don’t let us make this about you.

    Although you may live in Jamaican dominated community and your life is “centered around Jamaicans and the Jamaican culture,” you and your two brothers marrying Jamaican women, Adams’ “name being mentioned in casual conversation in the Jamaican stores and restaurants (there),” and reading about him, and watching interviews he has done on Youtube ……………

    ……………… yet, you still came to BU with INCORRECT information.

    Now, what does that tell you?

    I offered a simple example to David BU’s thoughts on the substantive topic and you came in to give an irrelevant history lesson about some other Jamaican police squad, and to ‘say’ Adams’ policing methods aren’t anything new.

    Then, you went to ‘say’ what I forgot to mention, when I obviously did not.

  41. John A Avatar
    John A

    A smart cricketer knows when he has been bowled out and returns to the club house without arguing with the empire that the wind blew off the bails.

  42. Dompey Avatar
    Dompey

    Artax

    I have one question for you Sir: where have gotten your information about Adams? Google of course, but I have been around Jamaicans who knew this man personally, and have lived in communities where this man has policed in the past.

  43. Artax Avatar
    Artax

    @ Dompey

    Okay, according to you, “I got my information about Adams from Google of course.” Good……. ‘fair enough.’

    You “have been around Jamaicans who knew this man personally, and have lived in communities where this man has policed in the past”………….

    Taking the above into consideration, please bear in mind the CMU was established in September 2000 and Adams was Officer-in-Charge from its inception.
    The Tivoli Gardens raid occurred on Saturday, June 9, 2001…….. approximately nine (9) months AFTER the CMU was established.

    Yet, you wrote, “However, when Adams was sent to quelled the rebellion in Tivoli Garden, he WAS NOT YET a member of the Infamous Unit he headed”…………..

    ………….. which is INCORRECT.

    You also ‘said’ Cornwall ‘Bigga’ Ford “is NOW a member of the Jamaican Police Hierarchy.” It’s a pity your Jamaican friends did not tell you Ford RETIRED from the JCF six (6) years ago in 2015.

    I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt, but remembered one of your Jamaican friends convinced you prostitution was legal in Barbados, simply because two of her niece dance in clubs here.
    What did you do? Run to “Google of course,” and ‘said’ she was right because “it is all over Google that prostitution is legal in Barbados.”

    Either way, perhaps you should do similarly to me and get your “information from Google of course.”

  44. Dompey Avatar
    Dompey

    Artax

    Go and listen to the interview Adams made about the Trump Administration on Utube, regarding his denial of entry into the US by the Trump Administration, and his response to this denial. Listen!
    Sir, I never knew much about the Adams until my wife was wondering as whether or not Adams was born in Jamaica. And then I took the time and effort a few year ago to researched this man. Because prior to Adam, the Jamaican youths of the 1980s used to talk about a Jamaican Detective name Bigger Ford whom they sung about in Dance Hall music of the 1980s.

  45. TheOGazerts Avatar
    TheOGazerts

    😀
    I think you should give him the ‘win’ and move on.

    I think Dompey is playing for the last word.. He reminds me of a guy who did not know the meaning of ‘have the last word’ but used every trick he knew to ‘have the last word’.

    The Mandela track has been opened.

  46. Dompey Avatar
    Dompey

    Artax

    You can find the details of that raid on Utube, and I actually know what occured in the raid, because its account were related by the family members of the victims who were murdered by police.

  47. Dompey Avatar
    Dompey

    TheoGazerts

    Sir, it is not all about winning, and if you think that for on minute, then your education isn’t worth a cent! ….. it is about speaking from your own unique angle of view Sir, …….. Now have you ever sat down and listen to philosophers of different philosophical point of views deliberate about the existence of life and the reality of God. I am quite sure you have …… well it is a never ending debate, where one and all wants to get their point across….

  48. TheOGazerts Avatar
    TheOGazerts

    2/2
    You can have the last word. I dun.

  49. Miller Avatar
    Miller

    @ Dompey June 4, 2021 9:40 AM
    (Quote):
    Now have you ever sat down and listen to philosophers of different philosophical point of views deliberate about the existence of life and the reality of God. (Unquote).
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Sacré bleu! The “reality of God”?

    There are many gods which are the figments of the human imagination.

    Which one(s) is/are the real McCoy? The Indian? Chinese? The Aborigines?
    The Egyptians Greeks or Romans?

    Or the Jewish version of patent plagiarism with which you been totally immersed with its jingoistic propaganda?

  50. Artax Avatar
    Artax

    Dompey June 4, 2021 9:00 AM

    I beginning to believe you’re being deliberately silly.

    If you had actually taken the time and effort to research Adams, you would’ve know HE was OIC of the CMU when the unit conducted an operation in Tivoli Gardens in June 2001. It’s that simple.

    There isn’t any correlation between the above fact and Adams’ interview about the Trump administration.

    You just want to PROVE the point that YOU KNOW, when in actuality you DO NOT.

    And, rather than admit you don’t know, you are introducing irrelevant arguments, hoping to convince the forum….. and more so yourself, that you do. As such, your arguments are irrational and you’re not making any sense.

    Anyhow, I’ll take my friends advice to “give (you) the ‘win’ and move on.”

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