The Natalie Crichlow Video
This video shared widely on social media raises doubt in the minds of some that the truth surrounding the death of 44 year old Natalie Crichlow is being suppressed by the authorities. The Commissioner of Police Tyrone Griffith confirmed in a press release no accelerant was detected from the post mortem process and likely cause of death was as a result of a gas cylinder which exploded.
Further comment is therefore required from the police to clarify the matter.
There you go backtracking. Your statements are there for others to critique. Are you so arrogant to admit if wrong?
The blogmaster is not an apologist for a boy or girl. What we will not do though is follow hair-brain conspiracies by some who want to promote all negative about the island.
Up to last week the gofund established by the relatives had raised more than enough money to pay for the return of the body. The blogmaster is willing t bet the government as a gesture of goodwill will pay for the return of the body, if they don’t many will be disappointed given the circumstances.
The blogmaster’s comment about the matter are there to reread. The CoP has some work to do to address weaknesses in the communication so far. This does not translate to cover-up.
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You are still posting? How are you being censored? We cant make this stuff up!
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There you go backtracking. Your statements are there for others to critique. Are you so arrogant to admit if wrong?(Quote)
I do not think you are that clever, if not I would have accused you of deliberately misleading people. Where and on what am I backtracking? Elaborate for the readers? Is it that the British diplomatic mission s called a high commission, this is an elementary fact.
Otherwise all the other waffle has had nothing to do with me, unless you want to pin it on me. Re-read the blog. What am I wrong about. Tell me and I would apologise.
You are an apologist because you believe, and want the blog to believe, that the statement by the commissioner of police is the truth and the whole truth.
I am more sceptical that is why I posed a number of questions that relatives and friends of the dead lady, and the local press should pursue – and anyone interested in social justice. Where I come from that is called journalism.
In the meantime, plse show the blog where I have been backtracking.
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Oh David,
You take the biscuit. What was the time lag between my post and it being published?
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@ Hal Austin
I am reading your recent comments and agree 200%.
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@ Baje
Thanks. There is a composite of behaviours which I call the Bajan Condition. Here are some: if someone poses an uncomfortable question you go on the attack; if they insist, you become foul-mouthed and abusive.
Or, if they are discussing ideas and you find yourself in a corner you talk about your qualifications, that you have a PhD or are a lawyer; it is intellectual intimidation, meant to close down a discussion. Another one is to start an argument then walk away when things are not going your way.
These are old Bajan discursive tricks, the old rum shop. You may recognise them as ‘shoo, man’; ‘you may have the last word’; ‘don’t mind he, I know he’. There are lots of them. There are all the refuge of the dishonest and fraudulent. Or, you make an accusation without details: like backtracking.
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We have to bear in mind that the lady’s children have to basically do this on their own, not easy while sick, vulnerable and trying to grieve. Don’t think the office or whomever handles such will continue to be uncooperative because everything is now in the spotlight, so some more time will be needed to see what process they had to endure.
For those not aware a placard protest was mounted in front the Barbados consulate in UK last week in regard to this issue, photos were on FB.
Let’s wait and see Hal.
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https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2310266559077425&id=100002823104248&sfnsn=mo
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And am sure if family and friends of Natalie feel they have to do this again, whether the consulate is open or not…they will..
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Cockroach ha no right at egofowl fight. 🤐🖐🏾🤣🤣🤣 #cannibalismandsalemites
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lol..am sure yall are PAYING TO LEARN THAT TOO..
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@WURA-WAR-on-U August 23, 2019 2:03 PM “We have to bear in mind that the lady’s children have to basically do this on their own, not easy while sick, vulnerable and trying to grieve.”
I have had a young relative die suddenly, and tragically. if you live long enough, the same may happen in your family. At that time you also will grieve, you may be vulnerable. But it did not in my case, and will not in your case relieve you of the responsibility of arranging the last rites for your beloved.
I don’t know where the got the idea that lady’s children are sick. I trust not from the same place where you found the misinformation that the Barbados officials had tried to cremate the lady’s body without her family’s consent.
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@Hal Austin August 23, 2019 1:01 PM “Another one is to start an argument then walk away when things are not going your way.”
He who fights and runs away lives to fight another day.
I have noticed this walking away from conflicts among Bajans too, but I regard it as a good thing. In a very small, very close community decelerating conflicts is a good thing.
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Simple…ya really need to stop being an ass and half reading things and that is only when ya are not reading the posts at all..i posted a link from the lady’s daughter right here on this blog WHERE SHE STATED for everyone to READ…THAT SHE WAS UNWELL..
….that was just days ago…at least Piece and SSS had the GOOD SENSE…to take a day off…or just read what is posted and shut up like i do..
and i still dont have to TELL YA A THING ELSE..lol
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Waru
It would be good if when you are responding to the peeps to leave the SSS out of your do. You made some indications earlier to which I said adios chica. Adios chica means that I have no more commentary to make regarding you or anything you write on here. As you stated, you do not need me or anyone, so the SSS moniker does not need you either. Over and definitely out. Are we clear on the matter of LET US IGNORE, Me you and You Me?
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Yall wanted to INSERT YASELVES in something that did not concern you and it was not out of any GENUINE CONCERN FOR THIS VICTIM…if it was…we would have known…so do not complain now.
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When I was young de ole man was not a child of privilege so clothes were a pass me down commodity
Education was by proxy and exposure to those who knew therefore knowledge of the contents of a book came purely by exposure to the owners of the books.
Third Party Contact to the Content
And one such novel was To Kill a Mocking Bird
De ole man is not at all literate nor can I tell wunna bout Atticus Finch or Scout, Dill and Jem but the name of the book elicited a feeling of similarity of how one, being under the influence of our own characteristics, can “kill” a subject of such value MUCH LIKE THE INNOCENT RAPE ACCUSED TOM ROBINSON was shot and killed while escaping the jailhouse after being sentenced.
“…Mockingbirds don’t do one thing but make music for us to enjoy.
They don’t eat up people’s gardens, don’t nest in corncribs, they don’t do one thing but sing their hearts out for us.
That’s why it’s a sin to kill a mockingbird…”
De ole man is much wiser nowadays than in “times aforetimes”.
One “sees” things long time before they happen but one prays that, with time, some enlightenment comes to the parties involved “so that they rise to the greater good”
When that DOES NOT HAPPEN, like a sniper scope, one recalibrated one’s weapon, and you shoot again.
We, not being Christ, must have a spirit of charity, to overlook much AND TRY, CONTRARY TO OUR CARNAL NATURE, TO FORGIVE MORE.
The precision of topics like these DEMAND THAT ONE IS FOCUSED and that one does not lose sight of THE MOCKING BIRDS On our landscape of intervention.
Natalie Critchlow is one of society’s most vulnerable WHO, NO LONGER HAVING A MOUTH TO SPEAK, needs an Atticus Finch to speak out for her.
And when the crowds come to lynch the Tom Robinsons of our society, or when the Bob Ewell’s come to torment the poor and defenceless widows or when they come to beat the Jem and Scouts among the populace, then, like the Atticus ‘ s and Boo Radleys WE NEED TO STAND UP AND DO THE RIGHT THING.
Few will understand the importance of Atticus Finch giving accurate information for Tom even though Tom is found guilty at the trial.
Fewer still will understand that even in the face of such guilty verdict, Finch vows to seek a further trial for Tom.
But what many understand is how noble the title of “ni**er-lover” is when you review Finch’s actions TO DO THE RIGHT THING in this ever repeating story of life at 2019.
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What is the latest?
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Hal…latest is inside this video..
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What s the latest?
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Gotta let the week progress some more, am sure the lawyer for the family has this under control.
you can gaurantee that no one is forgetting this as they are hoping, not every one suffers from short memory syndrome.
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Is there any progress on this case?
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Still waiting to see if the government is continuing to HOLD ON to Natalie’s body using their wicked modus of unnecessary small island shite red tape….still waiting…..we are now wondering…WHAT IT IS THEY ARE HIDING…about that body….
…that up to one day ago….it still has not been released…
but time will tell…..we got time.
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Hal…the government cannot put not one more LIE OR EXCUSE OUT THERE…on the Natalie murder….they certainly CANNOT use the COP to do it..and obviously they CANNOT SAY WHY ..they have still not released the body, when the family has had the money to repatriate the body…FOR WEEKS..
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Are we there yet? What are the local media saying? What about the family’s lawyers? The British high commission? Their UK MP?
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Family is taking care of that.
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What is the latest on this issue? It is important that the family, friends and supporters of this woman keep the public informed of developments. It looks as if they are getting bad public relations advice from their legal and other advisers.
Here is PR 101: you cannot rush to privacy when it suits you then call for public support when you feel like it. You are either in or out, it is a Faustian deal.
If you want to take the matter private, then abandon any hope of public support. If you want public support then you have a moral obligation to keep them informed.
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Any news yet?
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Hal…i lost track, i can ask a question.
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Still waiting to hear the latest.
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Hal…as far as i was told, it is the UK end have to get moving, not the family, but other red tape, don’t think ya can blame the Barbados end anymore…unless i get information to the contrary..
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@ Hal Austin
I like the way you have been highlighting, and the family can learn a lot from the information you have provided.
This should not die quietly, I smell something rotten in Denmark about this matter.
Keep up the focus.
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@WURA-WAR-on-USeptember 5, 2019 10:20 AM “don’t think ya can blame the Barbados end anymore.”
Perhaps the Barbados end was always blameless and both the British High Commission and the family ought reasonably to have know this?
But some bloggers too love to blackguard the people, and the government of Barbados.
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If the family has issues with getting the body from Barbados or any other for that matter, they would have come public. They were quick to start a go fund to raise funds to claim the body. The family appears not to be as ignorant as some would make them out.
#cabal
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Still waiting for an update on this sorry saga.
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Any progress?
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Others besides you are curious.
Did the story just die?
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If the blogmaster was living in England he would have secured the address of the family, got on the tube and ask a few questions. It is called being productive and proactive.
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@ Theo
Is that a pun? I am as curious as the other person. The family, advisers and supporters just cannot dip in and out of public support when they want it. They have a moral duty to keep people informed. The braindead would not understand.
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???????????????
Decomposed bodies of two women found in Christ Church
The decomposed bodies believed to be those of an elderly woman and her daughter, in her 50s, were discovered in Christ Church on Saturday, police say.
Investigators say that around 1:30 p.m., police accompanied a concerned family member, who was visiting from the UK, to a residence in Regency Park, where they found the bodies.
Police are at the scene and investigations are continuing.
barbadostoday.bb/2019/09/07/decomposed-bodies-of-two-women-found-in-christ-church/
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Are we there yet? Speak to me.
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Still can’t hear.
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More news yet?
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@ Mr Hal Austin
Hal, your resilience in prosecuting this matter ALONE, is commendable!
De ole man will provide my customary “other perspective” for your consideration.
I copied this internet article to make my point about this purported Murder Case.
“…Police’s role in criminal cases is investigation of the offence.
The investigation includes
1.seizure of articles/documents,
2.questioning witnesses and
3.recording their testimony,
4.arrest of the accused (if necessary),
5.protecting the Complainant etc…”
The issue with this high profile suspected murder IS NOT SO MUCH HOW THE ROYAL BAYGON POLICE FORCE did their work, it is how the information related to the “non essential information ” has been mismanaged
What do de ole man mean by non essential information?
We the public dont need to know about the accelerant found in Natalie Critchlow’s clothing.
That is NOT OUR PORTFOLIO!
However, in these circumstances where such controversy obtains one would thing that belligerence IS NOT THE MODUS OPERANDUM to be adopted by the powers that be
The fact is that there is no one who is responsible for issuing a public statement when a black woman from the UK dies in suspect circumstances
HAD THIS WOMAN BEEN WHITE de ole man respectfully puts it to you Hal that THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN A SPEED TO BOTH IDENTIFY A SPOKESPERSON as well as AN ONGOING CHAIN OF INFORMATION DISSEMINATION throughout the entire process.
This is a “high profile case” with some disturbing images, evidence and mismanagement.
By now, there should have been a comprehensive review and denouement that served to dispel ALL THE CONCERNS OF A PUBLIC THAT IS SCARED SHITLESS BY CLOSE TO 50 MURDERS!
But then again, Barbados is a BANANA REPUBLIC AND ALL THESE THINGS WE ARE CANVASSING FOR will be A Bridge Too Far
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Still waiting.
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Are we there yet?
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No but you are there.
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Still waiting for the latest news.
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@ Mr Hal Austin
Hal, you might not have seen this article AND SINCE IT IS NOT IN THE INTEREST OF THE PARTIES HERE ASSEMBLED TO FEATURE THIS, they have not.
https://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/241252/evidence-intruder
It has become obvious that the parties are reading Barbados Underground as it is obvious that Barbados Underground is keeping the parties up to date.
In addition to “reading” our submissions avidly, in real time heheheheh
However what is central to all this monitoring IS THAT THEY ARE MINDFUL OF THE POWER OF THE FOURTH ESTATE.
It is keeping them on their toes and that is part of what we want IS IT NOT?
Well done WARU, and Mariposa and the Honourable Blogmaster
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@ the Honourable Blogmaster
Your assistance please with an item here for Mr Hal Austin thank you
By the way Hal you will note that none of the so called reporters asked where Miss Critchlow ‘s body was at today
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I have been out of the loop for a while and knew nothing of this case. Just got the details from my best friend. Now I too am very puzzled. Strange case that probably needs some public accounting.
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@ P:iece
I have been accused of criticising the local media by David BU. This is far from true. Any intervention on the quality of local journalism on my part is simply, with the best of intentions, with a view to assist in improvement.
Let me talk about my trade: the most important tool in a news editor’s armoury is a diary. It is his/her map as to what is taking place, what we call a diary event.
Barbadian news editors do not seem to have diaries, and if they do, they do not use them effectively. On numerous occasions they publish the beginning of stories but fail to follow through. The case of Natalie Crichlow is just one of the most important.
Occasionally I refer to others: PC Gittens, who shot his neighbour; the woman who claimed she was kidnapped and taken to an ATM; the man who was remanded for ten years; the prison officer facing charges; I can go on. There are numerous political examples.
It appears as if they think their readers should no longer have an interest in the outcomes of those cases.
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What is not news is that the quality of local journalism is poor. They print one side of a story. They do not attempt to verify what sources say. They quote one source and care not for the source’s credibility. They do not follow up on stories. There is very little investigation.
That’s why I read the newspapers at the library or online.
And as for the broadcast media – CBC News Night – pure piffle. I no longer watch.
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@ Mr Hal Austin
Hal I wrote this earlier but you can understand why it was blocked…
@ Mr Hal Austin
Hal, you might not have seen this article AND SINCE IT IS NOT IN THE INTEREST OF THE PARTIES HERE ASSEMBLED TO FEATURE THIS, they have not.
https://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/241252/evidence-intruder
It has become obvious that the parties are reading Barbados Underground as it is obvious that Barbados Underground is keeping the parties up to date.
In addition to “reading” our submissions avidly, in real time heheheheh
However what is central to all this monitoring IS THAT THEY ARE MINDFUL OF THE POWER OF THE FOURTH ESTATE.
It is keeping them on their toes and that is part of what we want IS IT NOT?
Well done WARU, and Mariposa and the Honourable Blogmaster
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@ the Honourable Blogmaster
Your assistance please with an item here for Mr Hal Austin thank you kindly
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@ Mr Hal Austin
Hal, you might not have seen this article AND SINCE IT IS NOT IN THE INTEREST OF THE PARTIES HERE ASSEMBLED TO FEATURE THIS, they have not.
https://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/241252/evidence-intruder
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@ Mr Hal Austin
Hal, your observation about them is spot on.
They dont have a clue about what journalism is AND YOU MUST UNDERSTAND THAT in Barbados, the drivers for journalism is not investigative reporting but sensational headlines.
Here is part 2 to the item that cant get posted heheheheh
It has become obvious that the parties are reading Barbados Underground as it is obvious that Barbados Underground is keeping the parties up to date.
In addition to “reading” our submissions avidly, in real time heheheheh
However what is central to all this monitoring IS THAT THEY ARE MINDFUL OF THE POWER OF THE FOURTH ESTATE.
It is keeping them on their toes and that is part of what we want IS IT NOT?
Well done WARU, and Mariposa and the Honourable Blogmaster
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@Piece
I am not a detective, but the forensics seem amateurish. Where is the press?
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Well done WARU, and Mariposa and the Honourable Blogmaster
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@ the Honourable Blogmaster
Your assistance please with an item of thanks for you and 2 others for an article that gave Justice to the life of Natalie Critchlow
Well done
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If Natalie’s body is now back in the UK, the family and advisers have a moral duty to tell the public. This cannot be a family secret. Is the body back in Britain, yes or no?
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The widow of a man who died in Italy in suspicious circumstances says the support she got was “like a jigsaw that had not been put together effectively”.
Trudy Cowan’s husband Russell, 44, from Derbyshire, died of “catastrophic” head injuries during a trip in 2016.
She says her family was “essentially left on our own” by the UK authorities.
Her comments come as a report from the victims’ commissioner for England and Wales called on the government to offer more help in such cases.
Dame Vera Baird said support for the bereaved was “patchy and sometimes inadequate”.
The Foreign Office said it had a team supporting the families of British people killed abroad and would look at implementing the commissioner’s recommendations.
Every year between 60 and 90 UK citizens die in suspicious circumstances overseas.
Ex-RAF officer Russell, from Chesterfield, had been in Menaggio near Lake Como with three friends to take part in a classic car rally for charity.
He phoned his wife, with whom he had two children, on Saturday, 4 June, 2016 to say he was going out for a meal and was leaving his phone in his room.
Trudy received a call on the Sunday morning from one of Russell’s friends telling her that her partner of 25 years had been involved in an accident and had died.
Trudy Cowan (right) says her family were offered no help following her husband’s death
“Our priorities were getting to Italy, finding out what happened, and getting Russell back home,” she says.
“But the support mechanisms that should have been in place for somebody that had lost someone abroad – they weren’t there or available for us.”
She says the Foreign Office emailed to say nobody would be coming to meet them or help them with the local police.
The family were not offered a translator or a family liaison officer, she says, while police in the UK said the incident was out of their jurisdiction.
“Everywhere we turned, we were basically told ‘I’m sorry but we can’t help you’,” she says. “It was like trying to swim in a sea of custard, blindfolded.
“It’s just not a joined-up approach. It’s unwieldy for families that are trying to navigate through a system at a time when you’re expected to make decisions at the worst point in your life, when your mind is like a fog.”
Mr Cowan’s body was found at the bottom of a fence by a private villa (left)
Italian authorities concluded his death was an accident after he fell 8m (26ft) from a fence.
But his family do not believe it was an accident – a UK coroner ruled in 2017 that there may have been third party involvement – and an appeal against the Italian ruling is being heard in Como next month.
‘Uphill struggle’
Trudy’s case was one of those looked at as part of the report published by the Victims’ Commissioner on Wednesday.
Despite the dedicated team the Foreign Office set up four years ago to support people whose loved ones were killed or murdered outside the UK, Dame Vera Baird said it was still an uphill struggle.
Her report cites the case of a bereaved mother who said the Foreign Office would not provide an interpreter for a court hearing in case they made a mistake – the family sued them.
A woman whose partner died in India claimed the Foreign Office advised her to have the body cremated rather than repatriated because it was cheaper.
Dame Vera said families should get the same entitlements as they do in the UK.
Among 17 recommendations, she said families of those murdered abroad should be entitled to financial help under the criminal injuries compensation scheme.
The Ministry of Justice said the proposal would be considered as part of a wider review.
Trudy says she “fully endorses” the recommendations, although she says she would not personally have pursued financial compensation.
“As a family we just want the truth. We want justice for Russell,” she says.
The Lucie Blackman Trust, which supports British nationals in crisis overseas, said it helps UK nationals with some of the issues cited by the report and urged anyone who is facing those problems to contact the charity.
The Foreign Office said it helped more than 22,000 British people overseas last year, including cases involving more than 4,000 deaths.
“We now have a dedicated team to support families of homicide victims, including funding translation where required,” it added in a statement.
“We will look at what more we can do, including implementing many of these recommendations.”
The Foreign Office said it had recently conducted a review of consular services and it would set out proposals shortly.(Quote)
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Any update?
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