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Submitted by William Parker

I wish to congratulate the BLP government on their handling of the Covid 19 in 2020.

Now that the various “versions” of the original Virus has reached here and the infection rate and deaths are spiralling out of control it is apparent to some, including me, that the government has no answers and is reacting and not pro-acting.

I understand the need for the current lockdown and we all know that 2 weeks is just a start and it will be needed for a lot longer.

However the shutting on the mini marts and way side vendors leaves a lot of us bewildered as the logic behind it. In the area that I live R&R convenience, Mikes Mini Mart, EZ mini Mart and all the others are closed. These were locally owned shops where the poor, and not so poor, could get a little credit until the NIS cheque arrives, when the Post Office reopens, and walk a short distance home in the fresh air.

Now these people have to get an occasional bus to Massy in Oistins, and mix with those in the shop and be infected not only by the current shoppers but those who were there one or two hours ago. Are you telling us that it is safer for a person, who does not have a car, to catch a ZR and travel to Oistins to get a few items than to visit the corner shop?

The word that I have heard from more than one person is that in the last shut down the Major Supermarkets lost a lot of revenue because people switched to minimarts and a lot of way side vendors started. Is the way to make sure that the large foreign owned companies got more of the pie? It certainly seems so.

You have closed them on weekends so their overall sales will increase and their overheads will decrease. Bajans have been very good in following the new rules, and rightfully so, but there is a growing undercurrent of frustration and if the government is not careful there will be mass disobedience. This will hurt everyone. I hope that you can take a pause and consider the additional hardships you are causing a lot of Barbadians.

Thank you. I am a proud Bajan and supporter of the BL&P in the last few elections.

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725 responses to “To BLP Administration: Re. Covid 19 protocols”

  1. Artax Avatar
    Artax

    @ angela cox February 28, 2021 7:30 AM

    RE: “A wise decision which has paid off dividends socially emotionally and yes financially.”

    Perhaps you may want to outline the social, emotional and financial dividends you’ve referred to.

  2. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    @SS
    fyi…it is retired judge Frazer. Several of these retired judges are allowed/asked to work 3 months/yr to help with the load. We had another one working from the Turks (who also got vaccinated). There is such a backlog (maybe not as bad a s Bim) I really don’t care WHERE they work from, as long as they contribute to a system in need of help.
    Maybe this could be the next addition to the Welcome Stamp, retired Judges!!!

  3. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    Northern…don’t care how many retired judges or hired judges, they just ADDED 10 new ones, the situation at the Supreme Court gets PROGRESSIVELY WORSE…

    ….ya can’t get a judge to hand down a decision in SIMPLE, STRAIGHT FORWARD personal injury cases unmoving through the court for the last 10 YEARS or more…

  4. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    Northern..if ya play your cards right ya may get a gated community property for a song, Vuemont has a fire sale…..all the repulsive, racist snow birds are on the run.

  5. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin

    Thi9s evening, Tuesday, there will be a documentary on BB1 television called: Why Is CoVid Killing People of Colour, presented by actor David Harewood, himself of Barbadian heritage.
    It will be interesting. Some of you may remember that from the moment that figures were released on the large number of black and Asian people dying from CoVid, I had been saying at root was racism.
    I pointed out that doctors have enormous latitude in making choices: when to switch off life-saving machines; who to give limited supplies of oxygen to, etc.
    But in the UK, as for all social problems, the narrative soon took on a class aspect. Social problems cannot be discussed in the UK unless they are seen through the prism of class; they bend over backward to deny race has anything to do with social experience.
    Among the many stories told by Mr Harewood this evening, will be that 95 per cent of the doctors who have died from CoVid in the UK are non-white. Coincidence, unfortunate, fake news?
    No. It is because ill-equipped black staff (doctors, nurses, cleaners, etc) are put to work in the most dangerous places without proper uniform and for long hours, often under the threat of being sacked, while whites are given a choice.
    This brings us on to the vaccines, which our political and medical leaders are preaching like new converts, without the independent knowledge oar expertise.
    They get their information from CDC, WHO, PAHO, CNN etc then preach as if they are the experts. The big question is: why is it that all these people care so much about the lives of black people that they now want us all to take the CoVid vaccine.
    Answer: it is not to protect us, but if we live in the same societies as they then it is important that we take the vaccine in order TO PROTECT WHITE PEOPLE. Don’t be fooled. We are being used as guinea pigs.
    Remember, in the Tuskegee experiment it was a black nurse that persuaded those black men to take part; with Billie Holliday, it was a black FBI agent that nailed her. Who killed Malcolm X?.
    Doctors too can be traitors – real traitors.
    I will end with this. In the mid-1980s there was a riot on a North London hou8sing estate called Broadwater Farm. Shortly after a group of black men with dreadlocks moved on to the estate, who everyone thought were ‘conscious’ brothers there to help. They turned out to be undercover police.

  6. angela cox Avatar
    angela cox

    CA
    Now maybe u can explain to me why is it that some of those small island nations with open borders have smaller infection rates than Barbados whose borders remained open also

  7. angela cox Avatar
    angela cox

    Artax
    In my comments i said many times that Barbados should have closed its borders to hot spots
    Leave it to u to cherry pick a comment to make an argument fit your purpose
    Hence Grenada did and Barbados govt continue its reckless policy

  8. angela cox Avatar
    angela cox

    Bsrbados has a govt whose stubborn borne COVID policies now leads to community clusters found in families
    Yet we find political johnnies finding ways to attack those who have spoken against a reckless policy implemented by govt to leave borders open to hot spots
    Go figure

  9. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    ..this video gives more info…on Black death by racist doctors and nurses during covid….they killed this Black doctor.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A8Wu052FuIU

  10. David Avatar
    David

    Commenters have tried to explain to you many times how Grenada dodged a bull et when there was the outbreak of covid at Sandals in December. As usual you are married to what in in your head.

  11. Critical Analyzer Avatar
    Critical Analyzer

    @angela cox March 2, 2021 6:01 AM

    You and most people are not understanding the problem, focusing on the less important matters, keep asking the wrong questions and are constantly comparing apples to oranges.

    There are numerous factors affecting COVID prevalence in any country e.g. diet, lifestyle, exposure to sun, air quality, level of testing, availability of hydroxychloroquine/ivermectin/Vitamin D, comorbidity prevalence and the list goes on and on.

    It is less important to know how many people test positive but much more important to know how many are truly sick enough to warrant hospital level treatment. Testing positive means absolutely nothing unless you have symptoms. The PCR test cannot tell if the virus is dead or alive, only that your nose has viral fragments.

    The type of questions you and the reporters need to ask at these media briefings are
    1) How many of the positive cases we had so far needed hospital level care?
    2) List the environmental conditions under which our transmissions have been occurring?
    3) What early standard of care treatment protocols are we employing to reduce the likelihood of escalation in persons testing positive?

  12. Artax Avatar
    Artax

    @ angela cox March 2, 2021 6:30 AM

    RE: “In my comments i said many times that Barbados should have closed its borders to hot spots.”

    SO DID I. BU’s records would clearly indicate I’ve ‘said’ on SEVERAL OCCASIONS, ‘government’ should have CLOSED the BORDERS, especially when there were reports of a new variant of COVID-19 in the UK and South Africa at that time. In response the UK implement their Tier 4 COVID protocols.

    BU’s records would also indicate I’ve been critical of ‘government’s’ COVID-19 policies, including how the press conferences were initially structured and recalling Liz Thompson to coordinate a poorly established COVID Communications Unit.

    BU has an ‘archive,’ ask the Blogmaster/Chairman to post copies of those comments.

    RE: “Leave it to u to cherry pick a comment to make an argument fit your purpose.”

    Please EXPLAIN what I “cherry picked from your comments?”

    I quoted from your February 28, 2021 7:30 AM contribution re:

    (1). Grenada to open its Borders to tourism in April
    (2). Grenada closed its borders in december 2020 to ensure the safety of its people
    (3). A wise decision which has paid off dividends socially emotionally and yes financially

    And, responded to #s 1 & 2 (BOTH of which were QUESTIONABLE) and suggested “we could probably discuss this issue further,” while asking you a question on #3.

    The remainder of that particular contribution and those coming thereafter relative to Grenada, were meant to purposely MISLEAD the forum.
    Isn’t this an example of you being a “political johnnie, cherry picking information from the media, to make an argument fit your political purpose?”

    I’ll stand by my point. It isn’t a matter of people cannot or will not “discuss policy proposals” with you. It’s that you have a penchant for posting comments, as TRUTH, that are vague, questionable or misleading, ESPECIALLY if you BELIEVE those comments REFLECT NEGATIVELY upon Mottley and ‘government.’

    When pressed to be a bit more specific or it has been PROVEN your comments were actually MISLEADING, you instinctively resort to calling people derogatory names. In this instance, you’ve mentioned “political johnnies.”

    I’ll repeat. You are unable to have a rational discussion on BU, because of your ‘one dimensional approach’ to every issue from a perspective that’s politically biased. Your contextual interpretation of any comment is confined to politicizing it into a BLP versus DLP scenario or as a BLP motivated attack.

    What has me puzzled is, your one dimensional way of thinking is seen as intelligence, but attributed to others as a result of ‘learning by rote.’

  13. John Avatar
    John

    angela coxMarch 2, 2021 6:30 AM

    Artax
    In my comments i said many times that Barbados should have closed its borders to hot spots
    Leave it to u to cherry pick a comment to make an argument fit your purpose
    Hence Grenada did and Barbados govt continue its reckless policy

    Like

    angela coxMarch 2, 2021 6:36 AM

    Bsrbados has a govt whose stubborn borne COVID policies now leads to community clusters found in families
    Yet we find political johnnies finding ways to attack those who have spoken against a reckless policy implemented by govt to leave borders open to hot spots

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    It’s all in the water … well mostly!!

  14. John Avatar
    John

    Hal AustinMarch 2, 2021 5:25 AM

    Thi9s evening, Tuesday, there will be a documentary on BB1 television called: Why Is CoVid Killing People of Colour,

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Look at the make up of the at risk population.

    Look at things like heart disease, hypertension and especially lung function.

    I suspect that these NCD’s are prevalent.

    The thing that drives a body mad is they are often avoidable.

  15. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin

    @Quaaker John

    Don’t talk rubbish. We are looking at medical racism, not if black people like cricket which may be a cause of death.
    If you want to make your self happy toying about with nonsense, go ahead. I am talking about the valuing of black lives by the British medical establishment, even with their black colleagues.
    Google what you like, but this is the reality on the ground here.

  16. Artax Avatar
    Artax

    @ David

    It’s just a matter of Mariposa reading and ‘politically spinning’ the information.

    Yes, it is true that, so far, GND recorded 148 cases and one death as a result of COVID-19, which essentially means the virus was limited in its impact on Grenadians.

    GND initially CLOSED its borders to international flights on Sunday, March 22, 2020 after a 50 year old female arrived there from the UK on Monday, March 16, became sick the next day and tested positive for COVID-19 on Saturday. March 21.

    Under the new regulation for the limited State of Emergency, ‘government’ instituted a MANDATORY 24 hour curfew which was extended from April 6 until April 20, 2020. That meant citizens were further CONFINED to their homes for that 14 day period.

    By April 29, the island recorded 20 cases. The May 25, 2020 COVID-19 report indicated there were 23 positive cases, of which they were 18 recoveries and 5 remaining active. The June 18, 2020 report indicated a total recovery of the 23 cases recorded.

    Tourism accounts for 57% of GND’s economy and 80% of exports. During an address to the nation on June 28, PM Mitchell essentially told Grenadians keeping the borders closed was not a practical, long-term option, especially considering the importance of tourism to the economy.
    The ‘government’ was anxious to REOPEN the borders on August 1, 2020, but that decision was subsequently delayed until October 1, 2020.

    It is interesting to note COVID-19 cases increased from zero (0) when the borders were opened, to 43 by December 8, and to 69 (an increase of 26 new cases) on December 13.
    According to a statement from the health ministry, the cluster of 26 positive COVID-19 diagnosed cases originated from Sandals Grenada Resort and were detected through contact tracing.

    Despite GND’s strict travel protocols, by December 30, the island had recorded 127 cases of which they were 107 recoveries.

    In other words, between the period October 1 to December 30, 2020, GND’s COVID cases increased from zero (0) to 127.

  17. Cuhdear Bajan Avatar
    Cuhdear Bajan

    @NorthernObserver March 2, 2021 2:29 AM

    Thanks

  18. Cuhdear Bajan Avatar
    Cuhdear Bajan

    @Hal at 5:25 AM “Social problems cannot be discussed in the UK unless they are seen through the prism of class; they bend over backward to deny race has anything to do with social experience.”

    The it seems to me that the English Condition is even more poisonous than the Bajan condition. How can you stand it? And for so many decades too.

  19. angela cox Avatar
    angela cox

    CA
    Having said all of the above
    Why would govt continue a policy which in effect. would throw fuel to the fire
    That is where the burning questions are asked
    Throwing gasoline on a fire with an expectation that the fire would subside is called intellectual suicide
    Leaving the borders open to hiot spots is a reality infused into this problem which govt or no one can escaped or avoid

  20. Cuhdear Bajan Avatar
    Cuhdear Bajan

    @WURA-War-on-U March 2, 2021 4:20 AM “Northern…don’t care how many retired judges or hired judges, they just ADDED”

    Th referenced judge is NOT working for the Barbados court system.

  21. TheOGazerts Avatar
    TheOGazerts

    @Rabbit
    I promised to return, but the prosecution of nonsense adds validity to it.

    Reminds me of the dozen of scenarios that you proposed end of 2020 and early 2021.

    You are mixing up detection and infection, switching between desalination and waste water when it suits you and insinuating that covid-19 is being pushed through the pipes of Barbados.

    Have a great day.

  22. angela cox Avatar
    angela cox

    DavidMarch 2, 2021 7:21 AM

    Commenters have tried to explain to you many times how Grenada dodged a bull et when there was the outbreak of covid at Sandals in December. As usual you are married to what in in your head

    Xxcxccvvvvvvv

    Grenada took one of many corrective measures to stop the spread from getting out of control
    On the other hand Barbados continue its reckless policy of leaving its borders open to hot spots
    Deal with that issue and stop playing the role of a political psychologist

  23. john2 Avatar
    john2

    Mari
    How long must we keep our borders closed? you were calling for them to be closed since last year.
    Since the out break in barbados how many infected arrivals did we have? infact how many arrivals did we have?

    Grenada had its borders opened to all the hot spots until they had a spike. When grenada open again next month the places that are hot spots now will still be hot spots then.

    Why grenada dont remain closed until covid blows over? Why will they open back up next month other than to grab at the tourist dollars?

  24. Sargeant Avatar
    Sargeant

    @NO
    From the G & M

    Here are two takeaways from Mr. Machin’s really bad week. First, Canadians are increasingly frustrated with the government’s response to the pandemic. Those with the means to do so are starting to act in their own best interest. That’s further fraying the social contract that holds this country together. Second, a furious response awaits those seen as somehow breaking the public trust. Just ask the otherwise smart guy who just lost one of the best jobs in finance
    +++++++

    Just noticed that the Police have moved to the top of list in TO, can the Gov’ts both Federal and Provincial (Ontario) do worse?

  25. john2 Avatar
    john2

    Grenada took ONE of MANY corrective measures to stop the spread from getting out of control
    On the other hand Barbados continue its reckless policy of leaving its borders open to hot spots
    Deal with that issue and stop playing the role of a political psychologist

    XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

    And Barbados took none?
    Or just not the one you Want

  26. John Avatar
    John

    SargeantMarch 2, 2021 10:19 AM

    @NO
    From the G & M

    Here are two takeaways from Mr. Machin’s really bad week. First, Canadians are increasingly frustrated with the government’s response to the pandemic. Those with the means to do so are starting to act in their own best interest. That’s further fraying the social contract that holds this country together. Second, a furious response awaits those seen as somehow breaking the public trust. Just ask the otherwise smart guy who just lost one of the best jobs in finance
    +++++++

    Just noticed that the Police have moved to the top of list in TO, can the Gov’ts both Federal and Provincial (Ontario) do worse?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Just tell them look in their water supply!!

  27. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    “Northern…don’t care how many retired judges or hired judges, they just ADDED”

    ..Thanks Cuddear…..check my posts on the Mia blog and you will see why they are in my head…wish you would add a comment to it…

  28. angela cox Avatar
    angela cox

    True or untrue
    Insulin for diabetics is out of stock on the 166 sq. miles
    Sources said restock would be in about two weeks
    True or untrue checking for a friend

  29. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin

    @ Angela

    If that is true is is careless. There is no world shortage of insulin.

  30. john2 Avatar
    john2

    Bad that there is a shortage if true.
    maybe also be a good sign that the diabetics stocked up and keeping low

  31. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    Easing de pressha!

    Prime Minister Mia Amor Mottley last week announced the phased reopening of the country from March 1. In relation to beaches, people may exercise and get a sea bath between 6 a.m. and 9 a.m., and from 3 p.m. to 6 p.m., daily.

    The National Conservation Commission said in a brief statement that beaches will be supervised by lifeguards from 6 a.m. to 9 a.m. and 3 p.m. to 5:30 p.m., daily.

  32. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    @Sarge
    we have mass hypocrisy on all sides of the aisle, both public and private. The TO Police union, is VERY powerful. No surprise. And the ‘front line worker’ card to play. Many people are doing their best to ‘jump the line’, but not admitting it. Normal human behaviour?

  33. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    An interesting tidbit, largely because of whose mouth it emanated from. The context was locating funds to acquire vaccine doses.
    “The BEST stimulus programme is undersubscribed, with only a small percentage of qualifying entities, 44 at last count, taking up the offer,” DePeiza said. “The programme can be scaled down and a portion of the $300 million redeployed.”
    At some point we “may” find out, how much was actually subscribed, an of that, what was the compliance experience.

  34. angela cox Avatar
    angela cox

    Source said it has been about three weeks insulin out of stock
    The last time they tried to get it
    they and others were turned away
    Hope govt soon get this under control
    The elderly are the most at high risk those having underlying conditions like diabetics

  35. angela cox Avatar
    angela cox

    Heads of Government of the Organisation of Eastern Caribbean States (OECS) announced the arrival of one hundred and twenty-five thousand (125,000) doses of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine donated by the Government and People of India.This shipment arrived at the VC Bird International Airport in Antigua and Barbuda on Monday, 1 March 2021 around 8:30 am. It follows a previous shipment received less than 2 weeks ago by Barbados and Dominica (who received 70,000 doses, a significant portion of which was shared with other OECS Member States).
    Chairman of the Authority of the OECS, Prime Minister Hon Roosevelt Skerrit, and all of the Prime Ministers, have collectively and individually expressed their profound appreciation to the Government and People of India, and in particular to Prime Minister Narendra Modi, for their generosity and solidarity in donating these vaccines.

    India has been one of the first G20 countries to donate vaccines to developing countries and it now has a list of over 100 countries awaiting supplies provided by India. The OECS Heads of Government committed that Member States will be leveraging their bilateral diplomatic relations as well as sharing critical resources to ensure that every Member State is equipped to fight the Covid-19 pandemic.

  36. Cuhdear Bajan Avatar
    Cuhdear Bajan

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2021/03/02/covid-19-update-25-new-cases-109-recovered/
    Dashboard for Monday, March 1, 2021

    109 people discharged
    715 test results [positivity rate 3.49%]
    25 newly infected people
    552 people in isolation
    0 new deaths
    2,455 people were vaccinated on Monday
    41,125 people vaccinated as of Monday

  37. John Avatar
    John

    Singapore has found 25 cases of the UK variant since December 23rd.

    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-b117-uk-variant-south-africa-singapore-25-cases-14069952

    Practically all of its cases are imported with few days of community spread.

    Since May 2020, only 24 days when all of its new cases were community spread and not imported.

    Whatever they are doing the UK variant as contagious as it is reputed to be is not spreading there.

    https://imgur.com/k51lTqW

  38. John Avatar
    John

    It is crystal clear there is another mode of spreading the virus besides airborne/droplets.

    Commonsense says water.

    So what is MOH doing?

    Looking at the 11 hot spots in Barbados and wondering why families are so impacted.

    It’s the water, pure and simple.

    Where are the 11 hotspots?

    How are they related to districts supplied by the desal plant?

    https://www.nationnews.com/2021/03/02/george-ministry-concerned-virus-spread-households/

  39. John Avatar
    John

    “So from this week, to stem community spread in at least 11 communities, public health officials are set to go into those “hotspots” conducting between 1 500 and 2 000 swabs per day, Chief Medical Officer Dr Kenneth George revealed last night.”

    For heaven’s sakes, just shut down the water to these communities and truck it in.

    My bet is it is the desal plant alone that is responsible.

    All other water sources have zoning restrictions protecting the wells.

  40. John Avatar
    John

    Hotspots scream water.

  41. John Avatar
    John

    The GOB and its officials are going to look like extremely callous, uncaring fools if it turns out the water being supplied to these communities is carrying the virus in.

  42. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    This information was available from March and April 2020 when they updated..

    “ABC News

    Research indicates that other coronavirus strains, such as SARS, can survive 12 days in room temperature tap water, two to three days in room temperature wastewater, and much longer in both at cooler temperatures, according to Dr. Ian Pepper, PhD, director of the University of Arizona Water and Energy Sustainable Technology (WEST) Center.

    The survival of coronaviruses in water prompted labs around the country to begin using sewage monitoring as a means of tracking COVID-19.

    MORE: As the US struggles with lack of coronavirus testing, researchers look to our sewage for clues
    Although infectious droplets may contaminate water and the virus has been detected in wastewater, experts agree that when it gets into large bodies of water — like lakes, rivers and oceans — the concentration of the virus would be so diluted that it would be difficult to contract it.

    According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, there’s no evidence that people can become infected through recreational swimming, and “the risk of COVID-19 transmission through water is expected to be low.”

    Tune into ABC at 1 p.m. ET and ABC News Live at 4 p.m. ET every weekday for special coverage of the novel coronavirus with the full ABC News team, including the latest news, context and analysis.

    “It is extraordinarily unlikely,” said Dr. William Schaffner, MD, professor of preventive medicine and infectious disease at Vanderbilt University Medical Center.

    We also know that tap water is safe, according to the CDC and the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), and that pools, hot tubs and other chlorinated water sources are not a concern because the chlorine in the water inactivates the virus by disrupting the virus’ outer layer.

    While experts agree it’s unlikely you will get infected with COVID-19 by recreational water activities, they did have another concern about resuming water activities: loosening social-distancing.

    Recreational water activities are naturally social; beaches get busy as warm weather draws crowds, friends huddle under large umbrellas and lay side-by-side on towels, and the social atmosphere lends itself to the impetus to share a beer or lemonade by the waterside. While we can feel fairly assured the water itself is safe, experts agreed many of the other activities that accompany a day at the pool or by the beach are not.

    A beach entrance is closed off along the boardwalk in Miami Beach, March 22, 2020.
    Dr. Benjamin Gewurz, MD, PhD, infectious disease physician and associate chair of the Harvard Graduate Program in Virology, emphasized that the primary mode of COVID-19 infection is still person-to-person transmission, and the primary reason to avoid a fun weekend by the water would be to maintain a safe distance from others who could be infected. This is particularly important since people can have COVID-19 and not show any symptoms.

    MORE: What to know about social distancing strategies amid coronavirus outbreak
    In updated advice released March 2020 by the Pool Water Treatment Advisory Group, swimmers were advised to avoid swimming for now in efforts to practice social-distancing

    “As we begin opening back up society and take baby steps toward becoming more normal, I think social-distancing needs to be maintained,” Dr. Schaffner said.

    And skip sharing the drinks at the waterside.

    “I would worry about the risk of sharing a glass of water with someone else, even if they drink from a different section [of the glass],” said Dr. Gewurz. “Infectious coronavirus is detectable in oral secretions of people infected with the coronavirus that causes COVID 19, and I would worry that these could be spread through sharing a [beverage].”

  43. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    This info is old news, and has not changed.

  44. TheOGazerts Avatar
    TheOGazerts

    @Rabbit
    Not following you down that hole.
    Didn’t you have a March 4 prediction?

  45. John Avatar
    John

    WURA-War-on-UMarch 2, 2021 9:28 PM

    This info is old news, and has not changed.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Old news is just that, old news and it is fake news!!.

    Here is a scientific paper first published in October 2020 which I have posted at least twice before.

    3 weeks or more!!

    “This suggested that the SARS-CoV-2 virus is usually excreted in the stools of an infected person. A recent investigation demonstrated that the median lifespan of SARS-CoV-2 in the stool the specimens of the patients was up to 22 days (interquartile range of 17 and 31 days) (Zheng et al., 2020), which was remarkable longer than that of SARS-CoV-1 (only 4 days) (Lai et al., 2005). The study also indicated that SARS-CoV-2 can survive longer in the stool specimens (22 days, 17–31 days) than that in respiratory (18 days, 13–29 days) and serum (16 days, 11–21 days) ones (Zheng et al., 2020). In general, the faeces and urine from some COVID-19-infected patients are discharged into sewer systems and subsequently enter wastewater and sewage treatment systems/plants (Ahmed et al., 2020a; Collivignarelli et al., 2020; Qu et al., 2020). This can be considered as the primary route of SARS-CoV-2 transmission to water and wastewater (Barcelo, 2020; Collivignarelli et al., 2020; Chaudhry and Sachdeva, 2020) because SARS-CoV can remain its infectious in the tool specimens for >7 days at 20 °C (Lai et al., 2005). Schematic route of transmission for the SARS-CoV-2 virus is presented in Fig. 3 (Wigginton et al., 2015).”

    “Depending on the inoculum shed, the viruses can remain viable and infectious on surfaces (up to a few days) and in aerosols (for hours).”

  46. John Avatar
    John

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7528884/

  47. John Avatar
    John

    There is another possibility besides spread through drinking water.

    The sludge from the two sewage plants send up at Mount Stinkeroo!!

    Heavy rains cause surface runoff and very often Holetown floods.

    It ends up in the sea where it will survive as well!!

    https://imgur.com/TzorBC4

  48. John Avatar
    John

    “A recent investigation demonstrated that the median lifespan of SARS-CoV-2 in the stool the specimens of the patients was up to 22 days (interquartile range of 17 and 31 days) (Zheng et al., 2020), which was remarkable longer than that of SARS-CoV-1 (only 4 days) (Lai et al., 2005)”

    ALL VIRUSES ARE NOT CREATED EQUAL.

    WHOEVER MADE THIS ONE MADE IT TO STAY AROUND LONGER THAN THE FIRST!!

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    Tron

    If the theory of Richard Drax aka John Knox is correct, we should all shower only with mineral water for 5 BBD per liter. That will be really expensive. Fortunately, this does not affect my grand swimming pool. There’s so much chlorine in it, I could kill half of Bridgetown with it.

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    John

    If it is the desal plant, lock it down.

    There is still 44 million gallons per day available,

    If it is the desal plant, it will feed various reservoirs.

    It may be one in particular is getting the crud.

    If that is the case the 11 or more hotspots will have one thing in common.

    If a few hotspots are out of the supplied area, chances are the infected in those areas will have picked it up from one in a grouping of hot spots.

    So what to do if it is from one … or two reservoirs fed by the desal plant?

    Lock down the desal plant and dump whatever water is in the offending reservoir(s).

    Disinfect …. can use UV a la Donald Trump.

    Alternatively, if Donald Trump is verboden, wait five weeks or so for the virus to die in the reservoir(s).

    Refill from sources other than the desal plant.

    If necessary, ration but probably not necessary.

    According to the internet the desal plant supplies 17% so inconvenience may be minor.

    Best case scenario for us is if it is the desal plant.

    There are then straightforward solutions.

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