Opposition Parties Reach Compromise to Run One Candidate in St. George North By Election

Last week the four main opposition political parties announced they will combine forces to support one candidate in the by-election to be held on the 11 November 2020 in St. George North. Leading political commentator @budavid described the move has “shrewd”and one that finally demonstrated a level of political maturity not witnessed since universal suffrage in the Caribbean.

When asked to elaborate by international foreign affairs correspondent @Pachamama, @budavid indicated adversarial politics was the vestige of a colonial past and had demonstrably failed to optimally define the people of the island state of Barbados. He stated, “we are a homogenous society and a consensus type of politics should be the alternative to determine the future of our small predominantly Black nation- and to ensure the hopes of a proud small island developing state are realised and fears are assuaged“.

The entrenched incumbent political party has implemented and supported a raft of polices on winning office which have weakened the voice of the opposition and served to destabilize the system of governance as envisaged by the framers of the Westminster system which the country has parodied. Two polices continuing to attract scathing critique from the BU intelligentsia are the politics of co-option and the reluctance of the incumbent and entrenched government to relax the rule governing a subvention for opposition political parties.

And the politics of inclusion practised by the incumbent party reared its head again last week with the head of the largest trade union fast tracked for membership in a record setting one week to support her candidature in St. George North. The leader of the incumbent party admitted party rules had to be ‘abridged’ to accommodate the new member.

The incumbent political party has dismissed repeated calls to relax the rule that prevents a subvention to political parties who have not faced the electorate. @budavid recently reminded the prime minister from the #barbados_underground that she had a “duty of care” as primus inter pares and guardian of our democracy to be bipartisan when treating with certain matters. She was also reminded that there was no hesitation by the government she represents to amend the Constitution for less important matters as reflected in Hansard.

The shrew decision of the Opposition parties to coalesce behind the candidate with the best chance to win has resonated across Barbados and resulted in the needle on the Political Apathy Index (PAI) shifting +10 – the most significant movement in 40 years. A desirable outcome of the tectonic shift in political sentiment has resulted in the redundancy of political pollsters.

That the political system has mechanisms by which political parties can reach a compromise even though they disagree on policies. In Sweden, difficult issues are sent to a commission on which all the parties and key interest groups are represented in order to reach an agreement, and, in Austria, Government, business and the trade unions agree on the main economic policies and the left and right parties accept what has been agreed.

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@budavid throws his support behind the move by the main opposition parties to embrace a consensus style of politics and hopes that it will be the catalyst for a transformation event to a consensus style of democracy. For too long the hopes and aspirations of a proud people have been superseded by the paramountcy of the political party.

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  • Disgusting Lies & Propaganda TV

    Sigh……. Carson C Cadaver and Maripoorer….the tweedle dee and tweedle DUMB of BU..wunna need to stop clucking wunna yardfowls!!!!!! wunna soon gine get pelt in a nice big RED and YELLOW bonfire!!!!!!! .Now wunna cursing poor Sir Roy Trotman because he turned his back on the DEMS (ever since the workers union march in 1991 and helped bring down the abject failure called Sandi’s Gov’t in the 1994 no confidence motion). Any man that can choose not to tow the political line and speak out against the party and Gov’t that he was part of to save this country from total failure can only be an honourable man in my books!!!!!!
    Added to that Sir Roy Trotman groomed Miss Moore as successor to the General Secretary of the BWU so it was no surprise that he would be on a BLP platform supporting Moore!!!!!.

    To Floyd you might be a “good” person but that doesn’t means you would make a good politician especially when you join a party that Bajans don’t want to touch with a 30 foot pole!!!!!…..he might get more votes than Jester Ince and Spencer though… ill give him that!!!!!!

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  • Bracing for EU backlash
    Prime Minister blames Dems for blacklisting
    GOVERNMENT is bracing for a blacklisting “lash” from the European Union (EU) today, but Prime Minister Mia Mottley has served notice that she is fighting back to defend Barbados’ reputation.
    She also blamed the former Democratic Labour Party administration for the island being named among countries that were uncooperative in the exchange of tax information with other states.
    Addressing a political meeting at The Glebe in support of the Barbados Labour Party’s St George North candidate, Senator Toni Moore, Mottley said over the weekend she wrote the chancellor of Germany and the president of the European Commission and told them that the blacklisting of Barbados was “wrong and disproportionate”.
    “And why? Because they’re going to get their banks and their financial institutions to put measures on us,” the Prime Minister said.
    “And we say that when they try to do that, most of the banks say . . . Barbados too small; they don’t even think that we’re a problem for them because as far as they’re concerned, we’re a dot on the map.
    “But the dot on the map means that they’re going to say to people, ‘We’re not banking with you; we ain’t doing business with you’.”
    Mottley said some long-standing companies in Barbados “now stand to be affected” by the blacklisting, which is expected to be made official today, and which Minister of International Business and Industry Ronald Toppin recently said Barbados was hoping to have reversed by February 21.
    She took offence at the term blacklisting, she said, adding that the EU felt it had the right to call Barbados to account in a way that suggested it wanted to reduce this country’s attractiveness globally.
    Mottley told the audience this was important to them because “almost more than half of the corporation taxes that are paid in this country are paid by companies [that] come from over and away.
    Less taxes
    “They chose to put their businesses in Barbados. Because of that, we have been able to ease your burden with the level of taxes that you as a Bajan have to pay in this country,” she said.
    “You can pay a little less because others do business here and are contributing to the same taxes needed to pay for your child to go to the university, to pay for the hospital to treat you, to pay for us to do the roads, to pay for us to pay the public servants, to pay for us to do all the things we got to do as a Government.”
    The Prime Minister also criticised the former Government for failing to take the necessary steps to respond to the tax information exchange
    concerns raised by the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development.
    “When I therefore tell you that we are cleaning up, believe you me, as God is my witness, this is the nonsense that the Democratic Labour Party and Freundel Stuart left for us to clean up,” she said.
    “The last administration was supposed to answer countries when they say, ‘I want information on these people’s taxes’, for whatever reason, usually some kind of legal reason. The Government never answered the people.
    “The European Union [wants] to give us a lash today and tell us that because the last Government did not exchange information with countries, and because the last Government did not do audits on the people who do business with the international business companies – what we call the corporate service providers – that you now have to take a lash as a country.” (GBM)

    Source: Nation

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  • Barbados PM writes German Chancellor, EU on move to blacklist country

    Monday, October 05, 2020 2 Comments

    BRIDGETOWN, Barbados (CMC)— Prime Minister Mia Mottley has written to German Chancellor Angela Merkel and the European Union (EU) on the issue of plans to blacklist the country, stating that “it is wrong and disproportionate.”

    Barbados is scheduled to be blacklisted by the EU tomorrow, due to the country’s failure to enact tax framework in the 2015-2018 timeframe.

    ”The EU is adamant that it has the right to blacklist countries, and even that phrase I find offensive…Well, I’m black and I’m proud.

    “(They have said ) that we will take a lash on Tuesday, not because of anything done by this government but because between 2015 and 2018; they are now going to give us a lash by something not done by this government but by the last administration. Because the last administration did not do audits ….We will take it, but we will disagree with them. I told them that it is wrong and disproportionate…” said Mottley who was speaking at a political rally late Sunday, ahead of the upcoming by-election.

    According to the Prime Minister, the EU will be getting banks and their financial institutions to “put measures on us…. We say that most of the banks will say that Barbados is too small. They don’t even think that we are a problem for them, because as far as they are concerned, Barbados is just a dot on the map.”

    Barbados was required to implement a number of changes to its tax exchange framework between July 2015 and June 2018 in order to become compliant with the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development’s (OECD) Global Forum Standard on the exchange of tax information.

    However, the changes did not take place in the stipulated time frame, and the necessary legislative framework was put in place by December of 2019, but this did not save the country from getting a rating of “partially compliant” when the review was completed in March of this year for the July 2015 to June 2018 period.

    For the European Union, once a jurisdiction receives a partially complaint rating by the OECD, it will be automatically blacklisted.

    Speaking last week, Minister of International Business Ronald Toppin sought to assure the nation that “we have done and are doing everything possible and beyond to ensure that we secure a rating of at least ‘largely compliant’ in the shortest possible time.”

    http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/latestnews/Barbados_PM_writes_German_Chancellor,_EU_on_move_to_blacklist_country

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  • It’s pure hypocrisy
    BARBADOS HAS BEEN HERE before. Yet again the threat of being blacklisted by an international entity is hanging over this country.
    Based on what Minister of International Business and Industry Ronald Toppin said last week when Global Business Week 2020 was officially launched, today the European Union (EU) is expected to put Barbados on its list of states not cooperating enough in the exchange of information for tax purposes.
    It is about 20 years since the then Owen Arthur administration led a battle against the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development’s (OECD) decision to blacklist Barbados and other small states as tax havens. Since then, it seems like this country has fought a never-ending battle against such characterisations.
    Toppin reminded the country last week that compliance with the OECD’s Global Forum’s standard on the exchange of tax information, coming out of the Global Forum’s 2015 report, meant that Barbados was required to implement several changes in its framework between July 2015 and June 2018. He said this task was left to the current Government after not being completed by the former administration.
    Government has made several legislative changes to meet the standards demanded by the OECD and EU. The minister noted that with the OECD having given Barbados a partially compliant rating, the EU was blacklisting Barbados even though it was just a question of observing us for a period of time to ensure that we are effective in our regulation and enforcement of the legislative framework.
    Toppin has called the EU’s actions unthinkable and heartless, and we share that view.
    Government is taking steps to have Barbados delisted by February 2021, but the blacklisting is particularly harsh considering that the island’s economy has been ravaged by the COVID-19 pandemic. This has the potential to be a major setback for Barbados as it fights a big health and economic problem simultaneously.
    The Mia Amor Mottley administration and stakeholders,
    including the Barbados International Business Association and the Association for Global Business, must work to ensure Barbados complies with international provisions as it has agreed to do. But they and others with a vested interest in Barbados’ future success must also be brave and call out the hypocrisy of the OECD and in this instance especially the EU.
    Barbados-based Caribbean economist Marla Dukharan has been persistently bold enough to criticise the EU’s changing methodologies which determine how it chooses who to blacklist. She has also rightly observed that while Barbados and other Caribbean countries are tarnished with such a label, the world’s biggest financial centres, including London, New York and Zurich, are never touched. Pure hypocrisy.
    Government should hold on to its democratic right to pursue Barbados’ economic destiny as it sees fit. But, as with the COVID-19 pandemic, we should also see this latest blacklisting as fresh motivation not to abandon tourism and international financial services, but to diversify our economy within and outside of these two still vital sectors.
    But they and others with a vested interest in Barbados’ future success must also be brave and call out the hypocrisy of the OECD and in this instance especially the EU.

    Source: Nation Editorial

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  • @David,

    did she state why we were backlisted in definitive terms or was it just a blanket the DLP fault after 3 years of BLP in power mantra? or is it only because of not sharing tax information?

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  • @Greene this was addressed by Minister Toppin and posted to this blog elsewhere. There is legislation that should have been cemented by Barbados in the 2015 to 2018 period we were told. As you know this is a battle small jurisdictions like Barbados will always have to fight because the OECD will continue to shift goalposts anyway.

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  • Carson C Cadogan

    See why one the reasons he is sellout ?????

    Barbados Labour Party YARDFOWLS stoutly defending him.

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  • exactly so how convenient to blame the DLP. the tax exchange information should have been passed long time ago even if it was in the DLP time. it can be argued that the laws relating to attaching ML to dishonesty offences beyond possession of drugs should have been passed during the BLP time too. lax laws are a feature of both parties. it is nothing novel so i find it offensive that MAM and her sycophants continue this blame game.

    in any case most bajans dont understand the implications of the backlist so she better talk about improving roads in Char row bridge and out flatrock and market hill and how she must campaign for her henpecked maiden or Reifer might smoke her

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  • The average Bajan will not understand the finer points about the blacklisting, what they will understand is messaging that the DLP was an inept government in the “lost decade”. It is about crafting the messaging that will resonate.

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  • “What are the priorities for Barbados? What kind of society do we want to build? I have seen many articles, blogs and social media posts about remaking the economy, but the question remains, is Barbados going to address the structures that perpetuate inequalities? Is Barbados going to go forward on the same old unequal base that COVID-19 reminds us exists, essentially a plantation type society and economy? Or does Barbados set about to build a more equal and meritocratic society with opportunities for all? Barbados must be set on a new direction where integrity and good governance cannot be just words. However, as I said in the last column, Barbados can only change when we accept that it needs to change and set ourselves to that task.”

    Dr Ronnie Yearwood holds degrees in Political Science, Sociology and Law. He is currently a lecturer in law at The University of the West Indies, Cave Hill. He is a Chevening Scholar, National Development Scholar, and Overseas Research Scholar. He is called as a lawyer in Barbados, England & Wales, and the British Virgin Islands.
    Barbados Today Oc. 6th 2020

    Why listen to Dr. Yearwood when we have the distinguished Hartley Henry .

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  • Carson C. Cadogan

    BOO, HOO, HOO, MIA.

    Mia was in Govt. for nearly two and half years.

    During that time she sat on her fat Fanny and did nothing.

    The DLP has been out of office for nearly two and a half years. But she still blaming the DLP.

    BOO, HOO, HOO MIA.

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  • @William

    This is a good path to follow however our society is too “indisciplined” to make this a reality. It is a key difference of separation between a Barbadods and Singapore as one example.

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  • How others on social media respond to Mia attacks on Floyd

    Hell No . you dont know who is Floyd
    No u dont
    Look at u a big a.ss woman in politics for a lifetime and Floyd shows up on the landscape and u acting like a gully bore on a political platform
    No class at all
    Maybe if u take a look at Floyd u would understand the meaning of class

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  • Mia the despot
    Some people get it
    A sound and well analysis of Mia dictatorial actions from adrian fb page

    Barbados Politics:

    Of Despots and Prime Ministerial Dictators.
    Mia suggest that anything Reifer wants (his big works) done, has to come through her, and it was said to infer that any services and or monies needed for community purposes that is requested by a DLP member of parliament from central government on behalf of the tax paying residents of St. George North – has to come though her, and by making this point in the manner that she did she is suggesting that if they vote for Reifer – she will see to it that the People suffer for exercising their democratic right to choose their representative in a free and fair election. That is the classic tactics of a DESPOT.

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  • quote] Condemning the blacklisting as “wrong” and “disproportionate”, during a political meeting at The Glebe, St George on Sunday, Mottley blamed the last administration, saying the then Government repeatedly refused to answer requests from authorities in North America and Europe for tax information on international business companies that operate from Barbados.

    But this afternoon Brathwaite told Barbados TODAY that Government was a continuum and the same legal drafters in the Attorney General’s Chambers and technocrats in the Ministry of International Business that were there in 2018 are there still and are aware of the challenges.

    “The Government has been in place from May 2018. This is October 2020. One thing about Government is that there is continuity. The Ministries responsible would have known what needed to be done. So two years after the fact to be blaming the DLP because we did not address the issue makes no sense to me.

    “The more fundamental thing is that earlier this year the Attorney General Dale Marshall came out and said that he was concerned that EU and OECD keep moving the goal posts, and I agreed with him at that point in time,” Brathwaite contended.

    The former Attorney General added: “Rather than blame the last administration, you need to look at what the issues were. Did we have legislation issues? Were there issues with the structure of our compliance regime and make a determination whether we did all that we could have done at that point.

    “The Prime Minister’s approach which is to cast blame back is immature and not well thought out as opposed to looking at the overall framework and maybe she should give way to the Attorney General and the technocrats who have been, on a daily basis, establishing what the issues are or were and what our approach should have been.” [quote

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2020/10/05/former-ag-tells-pm-stop-looking-for-scapegoats/

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  • so i hear Caswell say that MAM wanted to get rid of Cynthia Forde and begged him run in St Thomas but he refused.

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  • @ Greene

    The president is disingenuous. Do you remember when the OECD first talked of blacklisting Barbados and Owen Arthur came out being abusive and aggressive. To paraphrase him, Barbados was a sovereign state and they could not tell us what to do.
    What he forgot, was that we could not compel them to do trade with us either. The EU and OECD are not moving the goalposts, they are standing firm.
    This is now 2020, since 2008 we have been aware of the shortcomings in our regulatory paradigm and not a single thing has been done to sort it out, by the DLP or BLP. It is small island arrogance and gross incompetence.
    We keep on blaming others for our shortcomings; it is all racism. Our regulatory system is not fit for purpose, but don’t mind that, give us a hand out.
    We need a public register of all companies, domestic and offshore, which lists all beneficiaries by name, and not the shadow of corporates. The president cannot get her priorities right. She is fake. Just look at her Queen’s Speech promise of a post office/credit union bank. It is now three weeks since that promise, and what has she done?
    As I have been saying for years, she is not as clever as her fan club keeps telling us. We must ban corporates from owning residential property the same way we must ban our own fund mangers from owning ski chalets in Canada is they are used for leisure by friends and family.
    We need a new companies Act, and get rid of the 1920s modelled one which is badly abused by company directors.

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  • @ William

    Ronnie is also sympathetic to the BLP, or was; why has the president not tried to get this son of the soil in to parliament (senate or House) nor has she brought him in as a ‘consultant’?
    Is it because he does not have a MSc in political sociology from the LSE, or is not like Avinash Persaud, a doctor, a professor and a man about town? Or is it because he is a working class lad from St Peter?
    By the way, Ronnie he is also an acknowledged expert on WTO regulations.

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  • Here is the biggest govt in the history of barbados
    With highly paid consultants and advisors all at taxpayers expense
    Yuh mean to tell that not one of them could have given Mia /govt meaningful advice on how to avoid barbados being blacklisted
    Rather that take blame she pointing fingers
    What a dam shame

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  • Carson C Cadogan

    THE LOST DECADE

    so we are still interested in TOURISM????

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  • Carson C. Cadogan

    Hal 8.08 AM

    Well said.

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  • @ Hal
    If you really want to see where we are going all you have to do is listen to Brasstacks. Imagine nearly sixty years of Independence and we still seeing debushing ; operating sewage plants properly and water delivery to rural areas along with flooding as major occasions for ministerial photo ops.
    @ David
    You can’t change a society / economy with fancy cliches and political PR.
    Ask the Japanese after WW2. They figured you have to reform your educational system. Ask Castro if you get a chance.
    Or you could ask the distinguished Hartley Henry. If all else fails consult the kool aid drinkers on BU.
    Peace.

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  • @ William

    I often listen to Brasstacks; I used to appear as a guest on it, but that was a long time ago. In a previous life I worked as a news and current affairs radio producer at the BBC, which included a regular phone-in. I know the drill.

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  • @William

    We are saying the same thing, eastern societies operate with a different kind of culture rooted with discipline as a main characteristic.

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  • @WS,

    it calls for a complete overhaul and a reset.

    but we foreigners cant say so tho. so be careful muh brodda or some body will tell you to “stay weh yuh is and lef buhbadus lone” lol

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  • David,

    you seem to forget discipline was instilled in Singapore by the leader. before that it was a corrupt society. he made anti public corrupt with the follow on features like discipline and getting things done central to his benevolent dictatorship. we did the opposite it seems

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  • @Greene

    This is a tired line and adds nothing to the debate. Where is the value in responding to comments on the fringe? It is a cheap tactic to garner support.

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  • @Greene

    Hold it. You overseas Bajans always like to talk about discipline. But you know nothing about us and how we live. Shut up and send the remittances. We are the best in the world. We have nothing to learn from these people.

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  • @ Carson C. Cadogan October 6, 2020 7:13 AM
    “The DLP has been out of office for nearly two and a half years. But she still blaming the DLP.”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Isn’t that the ‘exact same’ thing the DLP did from February 2008 to May 2018?

    That is, blame the Arthur administration for every economic and social ill under the Bajan Sun.

    Why do you think Willy Skinner calls them the Duopoly aka ‘Tweedle Bee’ and ‘Tweedle Dem’?

    The difference between the BLP and the DLP is the same difference which lies between the yellow breasted yardfowls called CCC (the carbon copy cun*t) and that ac currently posing as Mariposa the blue-blooded partisan political dickhead.

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  • Anti-virus software entrepreneur John McAfee has been arrested in Spain and faces extradition to the US where he has been charged with tax evasion.

    Prosecutors say he failed to file tax returns for four years, despite earning millions from consulting work, speaking engagements, crypto-currencies and selling the rights to his life story.

    None of the income is connected with the software firm which bears his name.

    Mr McAfee has not publicly commented on the charges.

    If convicted, he could face up to 30 years in prison.

    In a statement the US Justice Department said Mr McAfee allegedly evaded tax liability by having his income paid into bank accounts and cryptocurrency exchange accounts in the names of nominees. As a result, it is alleged, he failed to file any tax returns from 2014 to 2018.

    He is also accused of concealing assets, including a yacht and real estate property, in the names of others.

    The strange life of John McAfee….(Quote)

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  • i believe Bim could do the same as Singapore or at least try to instill some discipline in our people. Politics should encompass telling people about their attitude towards one another. their mendicant behaviour, their uncleanliness, their child rearing skills or lack thereof. and instead of people looking to Govt to solve their every problem how about working together to do so.

    we must talk about the role of Govt and how it affects our daily lives. do we want an invasive govt or a limited govt with people and businesses carrying the load and govt only interceding to provide the regulatory regime / security as to the businesses to people and the people to people interface?

    an all invasive govt exerts too much control and the public becomes dependent on it. when i was growing up people in the countryside used to clean their yards and houses every so often and especially around xmas. they scarcely begged anyone for anything except for perhaps family. they were proud. i saw over the years people stopped cleaning around them, stop doing repairs to their houses and begging the govt for help. when i went school at cawmere, in town was the first time i saw people begging and then all that came to the countryside because politicians failed to address these issues seriously. the minibuses and that attitude was allowed to fester. squatting was excused and then we began to dump and dumped indiscriminately and no one said anything. nuts and snowcone cups thrown out of bus windows and cars, household item discarded in gully and other hideaways

    we are now trying to put the genie back in the bottle after 40 plus years of govt dependency and a nasty attitude. we have let our previous hard working nature and cleanliness, mannerly nature slipped and replaced with some foreign american crap we saw on TV.

    i have considered this matter a lot and i believe it is time for people to take charge of themselves. stop this cradle to grave dependency on Govt otherwise politicians think they own you. be proud and be independent again like we once were. work hard and be grateful for what you have. build on on the board house house bit by bit. if you cant afford a mortgage dont get one. live within your means. be mannerly and give a day work for a days pay. get rid of this woe is me victim attitude. become parents to your children, discipline them forcefully but dont abuse them. remember words hurt sometimes more than blows. stop trying to rip off one another. say eff you to the political handouts to get your vote.

    of course they are some people who must be helped.

    i am not talking about them. i am talking about the slackers who think getting ahead is about cheating, corruption, by passing the normal systems and then looking at others as suckers.

    this mendicant and woe is me attitude have permeated our society to such an extent that i am afraid it will be difficult to address

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  • @ DavidOctober 6, 2020 6:10 AM

    Now that Britain is out of the way the EU will not let up on the republic of Barbados until a few sacrificial lambs are thrown to the wolves.

    It was the acts of the Don, a minister of the Crown, which sealed the deal in condemning Bim as a pariah state as far as tax havens go.

    The two “Parisses” were made sacrifices to the local mob

    Why not make the local collaborators in the Donvillegate bribery and M/L affair the necessary scapegoats in order to gain a pass to international regulatory acceptance?

    BTW, what is happening about the Billion dollar heist from the BWA?

    Didn’t the Auditor-General make recommendations which are in keeping with the ethos of a well-managed international business jurisdiction?

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  • Carson C Cadogan

    When I used to live in St. Lucia, the St. Lucians used to ,ask me why some Bajans so high and mighty.

    I said because they think they are better than every one else even though they have very little. The WHITE BAJANS have every thing and keeping them poor , but they believe that you all are small and stupid. EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE NOT.

    That would explain why they have a Caricom bench at the Airport. And its for BLACK CARICOM people like you , not WHITE PEOPLE.

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  • no it was not. this was in the works since our anti ml regime was assessed. we failed bitterly. and we have not seized any assets as a result of ML such was the weakness of our laws. the FIA hasnt submitted an annual report in some 15 or so years. the AG installed his friend as the director so lets hope that changes. he has also changes the ML laws and other laws in response.

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  • in addition, our company law is archaic and need a major rewrite with beneficial ownership open to public inspection. the same goes for our tax laws and treaties, and mutual cooperation that regard with other countries. these are the systemic failures i always talk about.

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  • @Carson

    In every Caribbean country I travel to with my Barbados passport the first thing said to be at immigration is ‘welcome’. I have never been told ‘welcome’ to Barbados when arriving on a Barbados passport. On a few occasions I have been asked when was I leaving.
    I have also been to the new registry to get certificates of birth, marriages and death and when asked for identification and produced a Barbados was told, admittedly once by an eager young lady, not that. I needed an ID card. When I asked if ID cards were compulsory, she snapped, like Bajan women often do.
    The matter was sort of resolved by her boss, a short, plump middle-aged man. Barbados is a failed state.

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  • quote]Today, Acting Senior Crown Counsel Rudolph Burnett asked the court for an adjournment so that he could prepare his closing submissions, much to the dismay of the judge. Burnett told the court that he needed to review the transcripts of the day’s session before he could make his submissions.

    The judge called on him a number of times to make submissions in the “short case” but he repeatedly informed the court that he was not prepared. Justice Greaves eventually gave him 10 minutes to prepare.

    On his return, Director of Public Prosecutions Donna Babb-Agard was also in attendance. The lead prosecutor was the first to rise to her feet to address the court. However, before she could start the Justice Greaves granted the adjournment.

    “I realize we have a cultural difference. I’ve been away from Barbados for so long that it is very different to how we are. So if you all want to take as much time as you wish to do what you want to do, I will adjourn for the day,” said Justice Greaves, who sat in the Bahamas’ high court.

    The DPP however, said the comments required a response in the prosecution’s defence.[quote

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2020/10/06/judge-peeved-with-crowns-inability-to-proceed-with-case/

    even the Judge recognises the differences

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  • @Greene

    The blogmaster appreciated your last comments on this matter.

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  • Carson C. Cadogan

    When I lived in Antigua the same thing happened , when Antiguans found out i was a BLACK BAJAN the questions started.

    Why “Bajans are so uncouth””????

    when you are BLACK they treat like something the dog dragged in. They never talk to you properly. They become aggressive when you them a question. They curse you. They tell you you about arriving in a box. What is the matter with them???

    However Antiguans treated everyone , including BLACK BAJANS with the utmost respect. When I was there a man killed a woman and somehow it got around the he was a BLACK BAJAN WHICH HE WAS NOT. He was from another Caribbean Country, even though they are respectful people not like some BAJANS, The people became angry at BAJANS.

    I could only replied that most of them are STUPID.

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  • @ David
    Are you trying to tell me that the poor Black people who from 1937 to this very day still carrying the weight did not have discipline and a proper work ethic in their genes . Are you saying that we loyal sons and daughters all out their working for less than $300 per week trying to raise families while consultants work for $20 million and welfare staff being cut ain’t got no work ethic?
    BTW to all those clowns who praising Hartley Henry now please remember he also managed the DLP campaigns and was high in praise of David Thompson. He even ran fir the DLP one time. Had a big job in Thompson’s office. Then he switched to Mia!
    Proving my point six and half dozen.
    Blind kool aid drinkers will never get it.

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  • “”Director of Public Prosecutions Donna Babb-Agard “” was now in attendance.

    Her job was now to make the Judge accept the unacceptable. She was there to maintain the status quo. After all it was a Black man there were dealing with.

    She was not there to tell Acting Senior Crown Counsel Rudolph Burnett he should done his job PROPERLY AND EFECTIVELY.

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  • Skinner trust you to misrepresent a statement.You presented some article quoting Dr Don Marshall who i know is a Dem sympathiser and brought in Mr Henry, s nameI told you to compare Dr Marshall with a noted regional political stratagedt was chalk and cheeseI am well aware of Mr Henry, s link with Mr Thompson i live here so what point are you making?It also does not change my view of Mr Thompson of this ascribe greatness.Perhaps as a Thompson apologist you van place on the table anything he did in his 23 years in parliament as MP or PM or refute anything i dtated earlier to Greene who obviously could find nothing.

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  • @William

    We live in a different time. The ease with which foreign values dilute local culture; Internet, tourism etc.

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  • Wait. De got an election or sumting? De wurums comin’ outta de ole wood. Scratch grain all ovah. Steupse.

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  • @ Greene October 6, 2020 9:20 AM

    Likewise, your contribution surprised me. However, I agree with you 100%.

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  • I hear some where in St
    Lucy is being washed away
    Boulders travelling like there on wheels

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  • David but Mia said she had a solution to ALL of barbados problems
    So when things happen the finger is pointed in her direction
    Hopefully she would be more careful next time and keep her long winded utterances to her self

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  • @ Lorenzo
    In all your time/life on BU have you ever heard William Skinner sing any praises to David Thompson?
    I have said the only PM I honestly thought was worth my time was Bree St. John because I maintain he had a clearer understanding of how our economy functioned than anybody else.
    Once again I beg you to only use your high level of literacy and obvious tremendous reading and comprehension skills , to stop attributing things I have not said or written to me.
    Now I don’t know where in my last post I attributed anything to @Lorenzo or anybody on this blog. I said the “kool aid drinkers”.I Never said @ Lorenzo.

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  • WS
    There is a saying who the cap fit
    Well Lorenzo is a kool aid drinker.That is so easy

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  • Lest we forget based on Skinner and your comments both of you are koolaid drinkers of the Dem kind as well.The difference is everyone knows who i support but you two hide and pretend to be neutral .Time to be big men and openly support who you want to.

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  • WS,

    Bree was quite a decent man. a man i admired a lot from that dishonest and underhanded bunch of BLP pols at that time. he was one of the best, honest and most underrated politicians we have had. he was also a good PM. wished he could have been PM for a longer time.

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  • Lorenzo
    Barbadian educated middle age female voters between the ages of 25 and 45 are going to lead a revival in Barbadian politics where the ethics and morals of politicians are scrutinized. They did it to the DLP where a 30-0 whipping was administered. Now the most heavily used words against Msr.Moore across social media are she is constitutional right in sitting as an Independent senator but morally and ethically wrong in sitting as an independent senator why knowingly campaigning to win a seat for the ruling party. These people are not Kool aid drinkers

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  • @ Carson

    We have so normalised our aggression that we do not even notice. This is an aggression that can easily develop in to violence. Therefore there is no surprise when we get gun violence on the streets.
    It is almost conceivable that most of it is over irrelevant differences. The root cause is in our culture, not social class. This social pathology runs right through all Bajan classes and ethnicities.
    All this is a recent development, a post-independence one; generations before had built a very good reputation which post-independence Barbadians have squandered.
    They are arrogant, rude, obnoxious, dumb and unrepentant as they have law degrees so must be clever, if only in their sad minds.

    @ William

    It is my belief that had death not robbed us of David Thompson at such an early age, he would have turned out to be a successful prime minister.
    I say again, my big question about Thompson is why it is that a UK born man of Guyanese heritage with a St Lucian wife could become prime minister of Barbados? Will the same or similar happen again with our Republican president?

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  • Bree was in pm long enuff to be called a good pm

    Thompson was not in power enuff to be judge as PM

    You DLP. Full of sh…. smoke and mirrors. 🙂

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  • @ Hal
    I honestly don’t know what type of PM Thompson would have developed into. I often tell people that politically he was a lot of Tom and Barrow. What I can say about him ; that I know personally , he was extremely mild mannered when there was conversation.
    In my limited meetings with Mia , I also find her to be quite mild mannered as well. I think Barrow has been her greatest political influence. After watching her for two years , I haven’t seen the depth that would have been expected of a person who has had her long experience. But It’s still too early to judge.
    @ Greene
    You are absolutely right about Bree St John. To hear him talk about trade , tourism fisheries , agriculture etc., was an education. They could not touch him!

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  • Lest we forget i notice you did not deny being a dem.However what are you a fortune teller now? Give me a break! Social media hits do not win elections , hard work on the ground listening to people issues and developing strategies to try to help them do.The other point you made about the loss by the Dems in 2018 was due to one main thing incompetence from top to bottom in my view. The point on Ms Moore did she appoint herself to the senate? I thought it was the Govenor General.Therefore the GG could revoke the appointment at any time i would think.

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  • Lorenzo you are not batting well
    The people said it is legally right but morally and ethically wrong. Do you agree or not? The GG cannot give persons morals or Integrity. I was here thinking how our Government was seeking to uphold integrity and transparency going forward but from what you are saying that is not the case.

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  • @William

    Nobody knows what kind of prime minister Thompson would have developed in to. I am talking about my belief, which I am entitled to. I cannot see in to the future.
    I am not aware of having a personality part Barrow, part Adams, since I have no admiration for either man – one a national hero, and the other, no doubt being lined up to be a national hero..
    We have two years of government on which to judge Mottley, and almost all of it suggests someone who is out of her league, who promised more than she can deliver and is forced to depend on nepotism and political trickery.

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  • Lest we forget i might agree with you but i am not Ms Moore.It is her decision or the GG,s.I never said the GG could give her morals I said the GG sppoited her and can revoke her appointment.My question to you dems though where all these ethics and morality suddenly come from since 2018? Where were they before 2018?Isn, t an ex Mp in the USA on charges from your party?On another note John 2 i agree with you Mr St John whom a i had great respect for and Mr Thompson were PM for about the same time but Mr St John could be termed a good PM but Mr Thompson, s time was too short.Well well it was not too short to put the economy in a tailspin with his first or second budget though.In my view Mr Thompson was totally overated as a PM.

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  • DT was in power about the same time as MM as PM. Yet MM is the worst But DT wasn’t in long enuff to be judge 🙂

    Ok she didn’t go to combermere so she can be judge anytime

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  • In our political culture transparency and good governance depends on the party in office:
    When the BLP is governing, the DLP calls for transparency and good governance. When the DLP is governing the BLP calls for transparency and good governance.
    In the end we do not get it from either of them.
    Pot calling kettle black for nearly sixty years after independence.
    The only certain thing is that the BLPDLP never runs out of kool aid.

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  • We know enough in the short time Thompson was prime minister that he was not different from many of the rest. A corrupt politician read CLICO.

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  • What is laughable about Mia views on Moore candidacy is that while wearing the independent hat
    Moore is campaigning as the blp candidate for the SGN seat
    There is obviously an unethical two pronged fork in her candidacy which Mottley deliberately placed to keep Moore name at the forefront of publicly
    In show business there is a saying that any publicity is better than no publicity
    I guess the strategist assumes that like throwing spaghetti in the ceiling some got to stick
    My hope is that the people of SGN would define Moore by her actions
    Actions suffice to say that are all borne on self interest

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  • Plse remind us of Clico and the corruption surrounding it.

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  • @ David BU

    I join you in endorsing the message as well.

    I also believe the BLP should give serious thought to the following comments:

    “Sitting as an Independent Senator while running on a BLP ticket is making a mockery of our Parliamentary system. While on her way to Roebuck Street Ms Moore should have had the integrity to drop her resignation letter off at Government House.”

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  • Any one who could leave govt workers out in the cold while she seeks betterment has no morals or ethics
    Wonder how many union members in SGN she knocking on their doors asking them to vote for her
    A vote which in essence secure her a job and many perks which these members might never have
    My thoughts on Moore a bold faced twofaced hypocrite

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  • Good to know that my instincts were correct back then. I had a respect and a liking for Bree St. John. He did not come across as a cut throat politician.

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  • Floyd Reifer a political unknown has the blp associates and yardfowl supporters on the back foot to the point they have taken to social media to spread vicious lies and rumours like this
    xxxxxxxxx

    Is Floyd Reifer’s blood related to Colin Reifer who allegedly brutally killed his wife and is currently out on bail? Naked Deparature

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  • Mari
    You sure you didn’t post that so you can come on here and saw a blpite posted it ?

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  • Tell Donville Labour Party to ask the former speaker to resign from DLP Before dem come talking about integrity

    She ain’t do nothing illegal

    I think she should resign but since dem wanta make it a talking point let Dem talk

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  • Yes David steupse where only gutter rats live and search for food
    Meaning that the person who posted such rubbish on social media got to be a gutter rat running around the blp camp

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  • Barbados has a serious drainage problem
    But we have a PM prancing up and down on stage pelting big rocks at Floyd Reifer a man she promised that if should win
    She would financially block any projects that would help the people of St. George North
    See what a maniacal despot she is
    Again OSA is right

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  • Wait Mariposa you were on here prancing about social media bigging up Mr Reifer and now the negative come you crying foul? Are you serious? This is politics where you share licks and recieve licks..This ain, t no sunday school therefore if this got you rattled you and Mr Reifer in the wrong field.You need to grow up.

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  • @ Mariposa

    I also join you in condemning those unscrupulous individuals who are spreading rumours about Floyd Reifer. It is wrong.

    Similarly, prior to the 2008 general elections, the BEES also “took to social media to spread vicious lies and rumours” about David Thompson.

    A similar deed was done by the DEMS to Dr. Mascoll when he ‘crossed the floor’ to join the BLP. And, hammie Lah suffered a similar fate from yard-fowl supporters of BOTH the BLP and DLP, each time he ‘crossed the floor?’

    However, your hypocrisy has not gone unnoticed.

    I also recall, prior to May 24, 2018, when “DLP associates and yardfowl supporters (were) on the back foot to the point they (took) to social media to spread vicious lies and rumours” about Mottley, while YOU, Mariposa, ENGAGED in similar activities on BU.

    You are the SAME Mariposa who ENDORSED the scathing tongue-lashing Mottley received from the DEMS, when the DLP launched their 2018 general election campaign meeting on Sunday, May 6, 2018 at Waterford, St. Michael.

    So, why are you COMPLAINING now? You should made it known to your DLP supporting colleagues, and by extension, BLP opponents, that PRACTICING this type of ADVERSARIAL politics is WRONG…….. and should not be CONDONED on either side.

    What I find extremely amusing is, while you and Carson C. Cadogan come on BU every day to cuss Mottley and the BEES……. to be rewarded with “spot ons” and advised to ”ignore the background noises,” by your adoring fans………. they and DEMS are seen SOCIALISING TOGETHER at karaoke sessions, bars, sports and other events hosted by Maloney, Bizzy, Arabs and Indians.

    But, when I highlight the biased, one-sided arguments you people bring to BU, I’m either accused of being a BLP supporter or “criticizing what is good about the DLP and pretending to be neutral.”

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  • Lorenzo i expected that once the blp yardfowls saw how social media was rapidly warming up to Reifer
    I suspect that the yardfowls would fly off the fence in a hurry to pelt boulders at Reifer
    My intent in posting is to show the gutter rats that frolic inside the blp party
    Not at all complaining

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  • Artax
    Was not around them times
    So i can only speak to present
    I see an unethical wrong that unless Mia take charge and correct i would speak on
    Also because the past had similar circumstances it does not make it right going forward

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  • So wait…. what if he is related to a murderer? The only way it could in any way reflect on him is if it were his son.

    Steupse!

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  • Mari sole purpose of bringing that sh8 is so she can get on BU and talk bout gutter rats in blp

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  • Where is the lie?
    Where is the rumor?
    How does she know the Person is connected to the blp?

    Talk about spreading rumor and gutter rat

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  • “Was not around them times……. So i can only speak to present.”

    @ Mariposa

    Why you ‘don’t stop telling lies?’

    Mariposa May 7, 2018 4:02 AM

    Yes cat piss and pepper licks like peas for Mia and all she deservrs………..

    ac May 7, 2018 7:08 AM

    A good nite for the dlp.A nite of facts
    And yet there is more to come. The blp can keep counting downgrades
    and revenue shortfalls
    In the meantime the dlp would pile onto Mia character a deficit so high one which she would not easily rebound

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  • NorthernObserver

    @Artax
    Give @ac credit. She was perceptive enuff to realise there would be a deficit so high somebody would not easily rebound. She just got mixed up as to who it would be? Likely a result of the facts which were provided.

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  • Artax

    Not in any one of my comments going back to 2018 did i go to gutter rat status by words or pictures indicative of connecting blp ministers name to murder
    You ought to be condemning such actions by blp supporters and the lowlife standards by which blp supporters are using to destroy the reputation of Reifer
    Shame on you

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  • Why is the blp running scared of Reifer
    Reifer made a noteworthy statement of cleaning up the bush in SGN
    Now out steps the minister of Environment a day after Reifer makes the statement sends bulldozers to clean up the area and talks about building a park
    These jokers are not fit for purpose no shame at all
    Mia had the nerve to tell Reifer that any plans he has for SGN must go through her and she is the one who says yea or nay
    Some one ought to send a message to Mia reminding her she is a servant of the people and she does not own the treasury
    Power has gone to her head and like Trump power eventually would destroy herself and the country
    Mia handlers must tell her the truth slowly her tendencies of becoming a dictator are rising to the top

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  • @Mariposa

    Mottley as president is a failed experiment. Until May 24, 2018, I too thought she would have been good for Barbados. It was her badly advised and irresponsible default that first made me aware she hadn’t a clue. Every policy since then has reinforced it.
    It will end in tears. Barbados is not only a failed state, it is also entering the tunnel of doom. Wait until she brings in her 80000 non-black New Barbadians and, as she is likely to do, the first past the post electoral system is replace with proportional representation. With that will go the black parliamentary majority forever.

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  • “You ought to be condemning such actions by blp supporters and the lowlife standards by which blp supporters are using to destroy the reputation of Reifer. Shame on you”

    @ Mariposa

    Firstly, it seems as though you read, but DO NOT UNDERSTAND what you read………. or you’re a very DISHONEST individual……… or BOTH.

    Secondly, l wrote the following comments:

    Artax October 6, 2020 9:29 PM #: “@ Mariposa, I also join you in CONDEMNING those unscrupulous individuals who are spreading rumours about Floyd Reifer. It is WRONG.”

    Thirdly, don’t try to change the subject, because l NEVER MENTIONED anything about YOU “going to gutter rat status by words or pictures indicative of connecting blp ministers name to murder.” You’re being dishonest.

    What I wrote was, you’re complaining about people spreading rumors about Reifer, which I ‘said’ was WRONG.
    Yet, you SUPPORTED the action of the DEMS assassinating Mottley’s character, at their Sunday, May 6, 2018 political meeting, which was EQUALLY WRONG as well.

    So, shame on YOU.

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  • Hal however why isnt the mainstream media not calling Mia actions to account
    Why isnt the media drawing on mia utterances which is telling sign that Mia is serious on taking barbados onto a political system of rule by dictatorship

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  • Artax u used my comments of 2018 to push a narrative that would suggest that i have slurry blp ministers name in like manner actions which are indicative of murder or connected to convicted murderers

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  • @ Mariposa

    It is about time you realise that a lot of Barbadians, including the media, are not interested in dismantling the Mottley deception. They get comfort out of trying to prove that you are a liar or evil or both.
    It is juvenile and stupid, but not surprising. It is the end result of learning by rote. In this big, robust world, some of them will never survive with that attitude.
    The reality is that Mottley has been a failure, that is the big picture. Concomitant with that is that we are in the last chance saloon, there is no way back if we fail this time. The world has changed.
    I do not advise people, but I would suggest you remain focussed on the reality and ignore the buzzing flies. They get pleasure out of telling people how many properties they have, what qualifications, how many holidays they go on, etc. It is a sign that someone is not confident in themselves.
    Just note those whose contributions are always negative, attempts to prove someone wrong, instead of putting forward ideas. They do not because they have no original ideas.

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  • All politics seems to be conducted from the gutter.

    Everywhere.

    Crusoe,

    At the risk of sounded right wing I agree with you on the invasive government score. It has led to a dependency mentality. No problem with giving somebody a leg up but they must learn to ride the horse.

    I have a friend who regularly changes one side of her wooden house at a time so that her house is always practically new.

    I myself do not believe in letting repairs get out of hand.

    Just yesterday afternoon I spoke about the coconut broom and the hoe and how they were my maternal grandmother’s daily tools. Every morning she attacked the yard. My mother needs no hoe but she deals with weeds in her flower garden beds and the lawn daily.

    Debushing of the area should be a community affair. We could cook a little food for everybody and buy a few drinks and get the job done.

    We have gotten more dependent and more lazy and more nasty.

    Now, it’s out to my garden beds. Got okras, tomatoes, sweet peppers, hot peppers, beets, thyme, marjoram, basil, parsley, celery, chives, eggplant, cucumber, butternut squash, spinach, kale and lettuce at various stages of growth. Got chinese cabbage, regular cabbage, onions, carrots and radishes to hatch. The yams, sweet potatoes, cassavas will be next. Grapes, melons, pumpkins, and English/Irish potatoes will be last. By the middle of next year my food bill will be very small.

    My lime tree has finally been planted to join my bananas, paw paw and pomegranate. The old timers – the coconut, mango and sour sop are still standing and bearing. Pea trees and guava trees promised for this week. Plaintain also promised.

    New lawn laid in places. New hedge to be replanted. I had to let some die when the rain stopped for a while after they were planted.

    And I feel better than I have in ages simply by doing a little physical labour, producing my own food and beautifying my surroundings.

    Bajans need to turn off the T.V. and put down their phones. NCDs would decline dramatically and we would have more energy.

    And what would we do with all our new energy? Chase down the corrupt politicians and run them out of Barbados!

    We need to stop looking to government for everything.

    And now I will tear myself away from Morning Psycho Joe get out of bed and hit the garden bed.

    If people only knew…

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  • Thank you Nation Editor. This is where the debate needs to be instead of the rabid partisan nonsense being discussed by some here.

    Change financing rules
    THE NOVEMBER 11 St George North by-election is a parochial campaign but it holds national interest not only for the politicians, political scientists and the political strategists. It should also command the attention of an observant general public. It is about more than the eventual outcome.
    It is important that very close attention be paid to the spending by all five political parties in this contest, an aspect of the election campaigns in Barbados which has for too long not been seriously scrutinised.
    We do not have a political ombudsman to monitor spending, while the Electoral and Boundaries Commission (EBC) has not undertaken any investigation into the matter and published its findings. There is therefore no accurate information on the level of spending on political campaigns.
    This bad practice must not continue for eternity.
    The public must be wary and not let it slip on this occasion.
    St George North is a good place to start demanding greater transparency and accountability of our political parties and the candidates. We understand they need contributions to help with the expenditure they incur while in the hustings, and the civic-minded contributors must be lauded for their willingness to give to such political causes in the interest of democracy.
    These contributions, however, cannot be private matters, which is why there must be full disclosure about the donors, especially as we seek to avoid impermissible funding and influence peddling. Existing rules do not compel political parties to report their expenditure, and they therefore avoid being held accountable.
    This must change, and even with no law in place, the parties, as part of their commitment to good governance, should use the by-election as the starting point to make audited expenditure declarations post-election. Such an important step would be one in the right direction.
    The Barbados Labour Party administration has committed to bringing the Integrity In Public Life Bill back to Parliament this session after its failed
    efforts during the last one. This, however, will be meaningless if there is no complementary legislation which deals with campaign financing. All critical loopholes must be plugged, given the continuous efforts to circumvent the regulations.
    During the by-election, the parties should declare where they stand on this issue of campaign financing and give a commitment to support the introduction of such legislation during the current Parliament.
    There are glaring weaknesses in our political and electoral process which need to be addressed, and the EBC must seek amendments to the relevant laws to ensure political parties must be registered and audited annually. Those that are beneficiaries of taxpayers’ funding should have to publish their accounts.
    We must institute checks and balances to ensure political parties, their candidates and officers do not operate outside or see themselves as above the law when it comes to campaign funding.
    Enough is enough of this unacceptable behaviour.
    There are glaring weaknesses in our political and electoral process which need to be addressed, and the EBC must seek amendments to the relevant laws to ensure political parties must be registered and audited annually.

    Source: Nation Editorial

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  • all the Reifers in St George are related or so says my wife. Colin Reifer is the brother of Judge Magaret Reifer and Dr Cyril Reifer and a few more well to do family members. they are from Freehill, Workmans area of St George and Floyd’s clan are from the Charles Rowe Bridge / Airy Hill area. the clan of George, Tony, Elvis (RIP) and Leslie and a few others. the thing is, most of them are BLPs so i was surprise when Floyd announced for the DLP. but such is life and he is a good home choice. that is how my wife says people from St George like their candidates. at least the DLP is listening.

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  • “Artax u used my comments of 2018 to push a narrative that would suggest that i have slurry blp ministers name in like manner actions which are indicative of murder or connected to convicted murderers.”

    @ Mariposa

    YOU KNOW THAT IS FAR FROM THE TRUTH, you’re being DISHONEST.

    In response to my comment that supported the behaviour of the DEMS at their May 6, 2018 political meeting, you wrote:

    Mariposa October 6, 2020 9:51 PM #: “Artax, was not around them times. So i can only speak to present.”

    I simply posted your comments to PROVE you were actually “around them times.”

    However, the comments are there for everyone to read and make their determination.

    Anyhow, this is a waste of time. I’m done with you and that.

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  • Artax you know Mariposa/ AC is a notorious liar.Here she is claiming she was not around in 2018 yet you post her comments and rather than admit her amnesia she tries to still deny them.Yet her partners Spot on and CCC would not call her out on her despicable behaviour.As you stated she endorsed the reprehensible behaviour at Waterford by Mr Blaclett, Mr Sinckler and others that night as a woman herself anf there were at least three other women up there endorsing that behaviour.Where are they today?Therefore if you want to speak of gutter behavior look no further than that meeting in Waterford possibly the worst in the histpry of Barbados so reel and come again Mariposa.

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