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Last week the four main opposition political parties announced they will combine forces to support one candidate in the by-election to be held on the 11 November 2020 in St. George North. Leading political commentator @budavid described the move has “shrewd”and one that finally demonstrated a level of political maturity not witnessed since universal suffrage in the Caribbean.

When asked to elaborate by international foreign affairs correspondent @Pachamama, @budavid indicated adversarial politics was the vestige of a colonial past and had demonstrably failed to optimally define the people of the island state of Barbados. He stated, “we are a homogenous society and a consensus type of politics should be the alternative to determine the future of our small predominantly Black nation- and to ensure the hopes of a proud small island developing state are realised and fears are assuaged“.

The entrenched incumbent political party has implemented and supported a raft of polices on winning office which have weakened the voice of the opposition and served to destabilize the system of governance as envisaged by the framers of the Westminster system which the country has parodied. Two polices continuing to attract scathing critique from the BU intelligentsia are the politics of co-option and the reluctance of the incumbent and entrenched government to relax the rule governing a subvention for opposition political parties.

And the politics of inclusion practised by the incumbent party reared its head again last week with the head of the largest trade union fast tracked for membership in a record setting one week to support her candidature in St. George North. The leader of the incumbent party admitted party rules had to be ‘abridged’ to accommodate the new member.

The incumbent political party has dismissed repeated calls to relax the rule that prevents a subvention to political parties who have not faced the electorate. @budavid recently reminded the prime minister from the #barbados_underground that she had a “duty of care” as primus inter pares and guardian of our democracy to be bipartisan when treating with certain matters. She was also reminded that there was no hesitation by the government she represents to amend the Constitution for less important matters as reflected in Hansard.

The shrew decision of the Opposition parties to coalesce behind the candidate with the best chance to win has resonated across Barbados and resulted in the needle on the Political Apathy Index (PAI) shifting +10 – the most significant movement in 40 years. A desirable outcome of the tectonic shift in political sentiment has resulted in the redundancy of political pollsters.

That the political system has mechanisms by which political parties can reach a compromise even though they disagree on policies. In Sweden, difficult issues are sent to a commission on which all the parties and key interest groups are represented in order to reach an agreement, and, in Austria, Government, business and the trade unions agree on the main economic policies and the left and right parties accept what has been agreed.

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@budavid throws his support behind the move by the main opposition parties to embrace a consensus style of politics and hopes that it will be the catalyst for a transformation event to a consensus style of democracy. For too long the hopes and aspirations of a proud people have been superseded by the paramountcy of the political party.


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369 responses to “Opposition Parties Reach Compromise to Run One Candidate in St. George North By Election”


  1. GP2
    A political savvy candidate going into an election would not be scoring points for the other side
    Unless the candidate sees something in utterances that would be of favour to him coming from the other side
    Cant imagine Biden Thanking Trump for any thing

  2. Carson C Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C Cadogan

    Can a DOCTOR who does not have all the relevant qualifications, practice MEDICINE???? He would get lock up.

    Can a SURGEON who does not have all the relevant qualifications, practice SURGERY??? He would get lock up.

    Can an AIRLINE PILOT who does not have all the relevant qualifications, fly a plane with hundreds of passengers????He would get lock up.

    Just saying!!!!!!!!


  3. Greene i know where your lovslty lies and you know where mine lies it is with the BLP .Therefore no issues there .My problem id with people on here pretending to be neutral when even the dullest amongst us can see clearly where theor loyslties lie eg Skinner, Donna and lest we forget.My question why hide be a man or woman and declare your hand.As for CCC in your absence in hiding we have long past the LEC rubbish.It along with sheer incompetence led to a 30 to nil drubbing.It seems you have not learn your lesson yet.


  4. But what are the relevant qualifications? And yes, if you are in India you can fly without the appropriate qualifications.

  5. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    I thought it be nice to bring this up again.

    It has NEVER BEEN RESOLVED.

    It is still FESTERING A WRONG DOES NOT BECOME RIGHT BECAUSE time has gone by and you should know that.


  6. Wuhlaus! I back on the list again. Seven good comments for and two against puts you back on. During the period of the seven good comments you are off.

    Rooster logic! Hilarious!

    Murdah! Muh belly!


  7. John2
    My loyalties is with no political party but at this time I am not a koolaid drinker. I can think for myself. I would like Floyd Reifer to win to bring some semblance that the people must matter in decision making. Mr Sutherland said that the PM wanted people to assist with the heavy lifting and so Mrs Moore is needed but there is a cabinet of about 26 and the PM still has to step in at every turn. My conclusion is some of cabinet members cannot handle the heavy lifting and should resign and save the state money. Every time a new person is needed for a position this heavy lifting talk surfaces.


  8. @ Carson C. Cadogan

    RE: “The investigation was completed by the then AG.”

    When was the investigation completed?

    RE: “It showed the person is not possession of a any Legal Certificate which one needs to practice LAW IN Barbados but it was NEVER made a public document. There are I think about 5 others in a similar situation.”

    Even BEFORE Adriel Brathwaite said he would commit the AG Office to conduct an investigation, it was already established there were a few lawyers practicing law in Barbados without a LEC.

    In September 1984, AGs of participating CARICOM territories, signed a supplemental agreement to the 1971 agreement establishing the Council of Legal; Education. It is important to note that agreement was concerned with the criteria for lawyers to admitted to practice law in CARICOM states.

    Barbados had to amend the Second Schedule of the Legal Profession Act Cap. 370A, “by virtue of Statutory Instrument #24 of 1985.” Appendix 2 of the Second Schedule essentially states an individual who joined an Inner Court prior to December 31, 1984, was permitted to practice law in Barbados, after being called to the Bar in England and Wales.

    Before being admitted to the Bar of England and Wales, an individual is required to be admitted to one of the four Inns of Court. Since Mottley was admitted to the Honourable Society for the Middle Temple on August 6, 1984, meant Appendix 2 of the Second Schedule was applicable to her. Therefore, Mottley could be admitted to the Bar and PERMITTED to LEGALLY practice law in Barbados, without having to undertake studies at any regional law school. By this agreement, Mottley has also been admitted to practice law in SVG, Dominica and St. Kitts/Nevis.

    RE: ‘Including a JUDGE WHO SITS ON THE BENCH. The DLP did not to pursue this case because some others would get hurt.”

    Pray tell, based on the above information, who are these others that would “get hurt” if the DLP pursued the case?

    There is a process before anyone is admitted to the Bar. The Registrar of the Supreme Court has to prepare a file and note any regularities, before passing it on to the Chief Justice, who in turn had to verify the applicant met all the legal requirements for admission to the Bar. Any doubts about the application would have been passed on to the AG.

    The AG is also the Leader of the Bar and moves the admission of attorneys to practice law in Barbados. Surely, the AG, who at the time as Maurice King, QC, wouldn’t have admitted Mottley to the Bar if she had not met all the legal requirements.

    If the investigation had revealed anything untoward in the process, then, the only “some others (that) would get hurt,” would be the Supreme Court’s Registrar, Chief Justice and Attorney General.

    Sir, I’m ‘putting it to you,’ based on the above information, if an investigation was actually “completed by the then AG,” there wouldn’t have any valid reason for Adriel Brathwaite or the DLP, to withhold its results from the public.


  9. Hal,

    the Legal Education Certificate (LEC) is 2 year or so course at Norman Manley Ja, Hugh Wooding TT or the Eugene Dupuch Law School, Bahamas. it consolidated the Bar and Solicitors practice certificates. so after successful completion one can practice law in all its aspects.

    around the time of MAM being allowed to practice people in the Caribbean were still going to the UK to qualify for the degree and then either the Bar or the solicitor’s route of practice qualification. they could ten return to the Caribbean and if their Bar Association or appropriate authority allowed it they could qualify to practice. this is the category where MAM lies. as such she is qualified to practice in Bim under the rules.

    the reason she can produce a LEC is because she has none because she did go to any of the mentioned law schools. she confused issues by promising to bring her LEC. dont know why she promised that or whether she was confused. by it was stupidity on her part and nonsense from the DLP in the beginning.

    at some they stopped allowing people to use this route for qualification because whereas the LEC lasted two years the UK solicitors’ course was 6 months and the Bar a bit longer with a pupillage period that all in all was shorter than the LEC. many complained that it was a short cut to qualification and disadvantaged Caribbean qualified lawyers. so after that any person having an LLB outside the region had to do a qualifying exam to be eligible to go to one of the above law schools before being able to practice. However anyone who is a practicising lawyer in the Commonwealth can apply to the Bar Association or the Appropriate Authority to practice in a particular territory and it is usually allowed

    normally only a qualified lawyer can give formal legal advice with a QC’s opinion in certain areas of law relied on by non QC lawyers but informally any person well read in law can give an opinion (Caswell Franklyn), which carries no weight in court.

    the Montserrat connected lawyer to whom you made reference, is perhaps Anesta Weekes QC a brilliant lawyer in her own right.


  10. An opportunity to discuss important issues of electoral reform. The quality of candidates in the SGN election etc. instead down the rabbit hole some of you discussing an issue that was put to bed and never resonated with the electorate in 2018. Mottley must be laughing.

    Steuspe


  11. I remember Mottley saying she would have brought her qualifications, NOT a LEC.

    She was ridiculed by the DEMS when they discovered the LEC was not among the qualifications…….. which is something they would have known from the onset. Perhaps that’s why Lowe kept pushing the issue.

    That scenario became a daily ‘talking point’ for then CBC ‘Talk Yuh Talk’ moderator, Maureen Holder and a regular caller known as ‘The Trinidadian Woman.”

    If it was public knowledge Mottley did not have a LEC, then surely it would have been folly on her part to say she would present one in Parliament. It does not make sense.


  12. Why hasnt Mia laid this issue to rest by stating publicly she does not have an LEC
    I suspect the reason being that stating that publicly it would hold her to being a liar on Parliament and pushed all and any of her utterances into mistrust territory
    For those who think that because certain people of her associates say that her requirements to be accredited was not necessary needs to explain how others around the same time Mottley was accredited were not given full certification until they completed all requirements


  13. Anyhow Reifer the golden boy of the dlp is off and running already hitting sixes across social media
    Blp yardfowls tek that


  14. @David,

    what issues do you want to discuss? present them


  15. @Greene

    It was indeed Anesta Weekes. Thanks for your explanation, most of which I was familiar with. My point is is there a LEGAL requirement to have an LEC and if so, what does it qualify one to do? I can understand appearing before a judge in open court, but do you need a LEC to carry out conveyancing for a small property or give advice in chambers? If it is a legal requirement, what is the legislation?
    As to the LEC two year course. After completing a three or four year LLB course, why does one need a two year PRACTICE course? My suspicion is that the two-year course (five years to become a qualified attorney??) is to fill in gaps in the LLB course.
    As you know, we can do an ordinary degree and then a conversion course of one academic year. Lord Sumption did a conversion course and he is the outstanding legal scholar in the UK (England and Wales) of his generation.
    To repeat what I have said before, the question of Mottley’s qualification is nonsense. She is properly qualified. What is more important is her political incompetence.
    The real issue is that mediocre lawyers want something that they can pull on before learned lawyers who studied overseas and LEC is the key. I once tried to get one of my young cousins to go to Trinidad for her LEC and she refused. Quit e rightly too.
    Has Ezra Alleyne got a LEC? Or any of our high court and appeal court judges? Did Marston have an LEC?


  16. LWF

    I do not think he can pull off a Charles Griffith in St John. The conditions are not yet the same. He has to be in it for the long haul and put in the work.

    i do expect to do better the the last DLP candidate.


  17. @ Mariposa

    Could you please give us the names of those people who, “around the same time Mottley was accredited, were not given full certification until they completed all requirements?”

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    @ Carson C. Cadogan October 4, 2020 11:21 AM

    The only place “it is still festering,” is in YOUR HEAD………. because the issue has been resolved long time ago.

    If this LEC nonsense is the only thing you could bring, after being absent from BU for over 2 years, then, perhaps it’s best you return to hiding.


  18. Many of the older lawyers dont have the LEC.

    to answer your question the LLB is the theory. whilst the LEC is the practical. it is a very good course with mock criminal courts presided over by Judges / magistrates etc. same with conveyancing and civil matters. they are practice driven.

    to me it is better than the UK practice certificate in that when our lawyers leave school they are better prepared for court and to practice in as much as training can prepared anyone. whereas UK students have to find a firm to take them on where they can do their practicals (pupillage) we dont. and as you know getting a firm to take you on in the UK is a v difficult prospect for some

    there is an argument to be made over whether the LLB is too long and whether it should be meshed with the practical to made sense or to make the experience shorter and more meaningful. as it stands without the LEC, bar or solicitor’s certificate one cannot formally practice or dispense legal advice for court or formal purposes.


  19. @greene

    A few issues were presented in the blog. What is your view about transitioning to a consensus democracy? Are we that different a people on a small island to effectively execute the adversarial Westminster style of politics?


  20. a drowning man will……….

  21. Carson C Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C Cadogan

    MARIPOSA 12.02PM

    Well said.

    Some of you dont seem understand. People have been taken down from lofty positions because they could not produce their qualifications..

    Dont worry about St. George North, a man was there for 26 yrs. and did little to nothing for the PEOPLE OF SGN. But we never forget that in the meantime he build up himself..

    TONI MOORE will do the same. WHAT MOORE CAN FEW YEARS MAKE.

    She might be the representative, BECAUSE THE BETTER MAN GRANVILLE PHILLIPS II MIGHT NOT WIN. Everything will be stack against him.


  22. what is a consensus democracy? explain.

    our system is not fully Westminster it is a bastardisation thereof. we dont follow the conventions and do as we like. we make a mockery of democracy


  23. @greene

    Google it for best explanation.


  24. @ Greene

    You have missed my question. The LEC is a PRACTICE course leading to a PRACTICE qualification; does it have to be that long, two years? I say again, I suspect it makes up for the absence in the LLB.
    You go on to compare that course with the England and Wales LLB course; that is a different argument. The point is the England and Wales LLB includes moots, the LEC it seems just provides more moots.
    Would you go to a young lawyer, just out of Wooding, to carry out serious legal work for you, without any real experience. The UK system grew out of the old system of articled clerks and apprenticeships before training was transferred to colleges and universities. It is happening in all occupational groups. In my trade on the job training is far better than the theory in college.
    But is there a LEGAL requirement to have an LEC, apart from appearing before a judge in open court? Is it necessary to appear before a judge in chambers?
    I am aware some of the old boys were not even qualified. Where did the late Sir Fred Gollop get his legal qualifications? I say again, the nonsense about whether Mottley has an LEC is irrelevant. The real issue is her political incompetence and bullying.


  25. Steuspe

  26. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    The people of SGN like the way they are.

    Poor and sorrowful. That is how a man could “”represent “”them for 26 yrs. and they have LITTLE TO SHOW FOR IT. They dont mind.

    TONI MOORE WILL CONTINUE THE TREND.


  27. The Thorne Commission on Local Governance will hold its final town hall meeting today, Sunday, October 4, at the Queen’s Park Steel Shed, Bridgetown.
    The Commission, set up to oversee the process of establishing community-based people’s assemblies in Barbados, has been garnering public opinion on the issue since November last year. Meetings have been held island-wide.
    This final meeting, under the chairmanship of MP and attorney-at-law Ralph Thorne, will run from 5:00 to 7:00 p.m.
    Interested persons who are unable to attend are invited to join via Zoom. They may register by emailing Thorne.Commission@barbados.gov.bb and providing their full name and email address.
    The joining link will be forwarded to their email address prior to the start of the meeting.
    The public is also invited to submit written questions and/or submissions to the Commission via email.
    The work of the Commission falls under the purview of the Ministry of People Empowerment

    Source: GIS


  28. Hal how can u state that Mia legal qualifications is nonsense
    Fuh Christ sake as PM she cannot state that she can produce a certification and then does not
    It now boils down to honesty on her part and a matter of proof
    It also boils down for her to set the record straight by delivering the said proof of certification which she stated she has on Parliament floor
    Also holding those in high office feet to the burning coals of honesty is a civic duty
    How and where she practices is entirely up to here
    Certainly u would not higher an engineer if he is not qualified in building a high storey building
    Yes qualification matters especially when people finances are involved which in all by self is a gauging apparatus to what a person is expecting


  29. @ Mariposa

    I do not believe her qualifications are being questioned by anyone, except for political purposes. I believe she is fully qualified and is entitled to practice.
    Of more concern are her politics. I would suggest to any DLP support er to ignore the crap abut legal qualifications and a irrelevant LEC that is worth very little, and concentrate on her destructive politics.
    I understand all your moral questions, but they are not central to the reality on the ground. As I asked, where did Sir Fred Gollop get his legal qualifications?
    Let us concentrate on the politics and her disregard for our parliamentary democracy. That is the serious issue.


  30. Carson Cadogan
    202O is a bird eyes view that a whole lot can change


  31. Hal u are wrong this issue smells of political tinkering by certain people associated with knowing how and why she was accredited
    It also has opened a relevant question as to why others at the same time had to go the full route
    I also question privilege
    Those are some of the troubling earmarks that lend themselves to political interference in her accreditation so much so that even with the passage of time there are still lingering doubts surrounding the issue
    Not good something just does not seem right
    Hence much questioning

  32. Carson C Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C Cadogan

    MARIPOSA 1.16 PM

    Again right on the ball.


  33. @ Mariposa

    I can under stand why some people may find the fact of her qualification intriguing. I do not. There are many highly qualified Barbadians who are virtually illiterate, certainly for a modern technological world.
    Let us assume that Mottley had all the relevant qualifications, ignore the moral argument, what difference will it make to ordinary people, in a nation of 280000, most of whom may never need the professional services of a lawyer?
    Her real danger to Barbados and Barbadians is what she has inflicted on the nation since May 25, 2018. It is her politics.
    Some people may get a high on proving an insignificant point about qualifications; but others prefer the bigger picture. Take it from me, concentrate on her politics – the worst of any government since the end of the second world war.


  34. @ Mariposa

    Could you please PRESENT the NAMES of those individuals who “had to go the full route” to be accepted to the Bar, at the same time Mottley was accepted?

    You are essentially suggesting, in September 1984 (at a time when Mottley was NOT actively involved in politics), when the Attorneys General of CARICOM member states signed a supplemental agreement to the 1971 agreement that established the Council of Legal Education, amending the criteria for persons to be admitted to practice law in CARICOM states……….

    ………… it was “political interference in (Mottley’s) accreditation” because she was “privileged.”

    It’s clear your comments are BASED on ‘what you feel,’ ‘hear say and political expediency, rather than EVIDENCE and FACTS.

  35. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    SGN reminds me of the PM”s constituency.

    She been representing that same constituency for years. But if you look into it nothing but nothing worthwhile has been to it in all those years.

    YET, THE PEOPLE continue to vote for her TIME, AFTER TIME, AFTER TIME.

    IT BOGGLES THE MIND.


  36. Hal the same low level importance for her qualifications can be placed alongside running on the same mentality given to barbados economy since 2018
    Remember it is who the cat like he licks
    Trace your mind back to 10 years and all one could read on Bu and across social platforms was the performance of the economy and PM Stuart
    So not surprised that those who set the agendas are not interested in the economy or Mia qualifications both have been set on the same track of avoidance


  37. @Mariposa

    Mia came to power with a reputation that she was terribly smart and was exceptionally brilliant. We have known, over the last two years, that most of this was bogus.
    She is not exceptionally clever (she has a very god political brain), has no time for policy details, easily gets bored with the minutiae of administration, and is obsessed with talking, flaring arms, and love of herself.
    Talk about legal qualifications in a jurisdiction as big as the borough I live in with criminal and civil justice systems in chaos because of incompetence, is a waste of time.
    Concentrate on the damage she can inflict on the nation, on future generations, on selling out the nation to foreigners and those who have no respect for black people. That is the real danger of her presidency.
    Most Bajans have certificates that they frame and display in offices or at home to show how clever they are; as them a question about the subject and they start to be abusive. I am sure we all have bits of paper in subjects we cannot remember anything about.
    Let us go for the meet by raising public consciousness about her political ineptitude, her auctioning of the nation to the highest bidder, her self-obsessed determination to use the name of Barbados to push herself on the rest of the world.
    About the DLP, I believe if David Thompson had lived the outcome would have been different. The DLP won in 2008 unexpectedly; Stuart became leader unexpectedly.
    That he kept Sinckler in officer for the remainder of the first term was understandable, if wrong. But aft er he got his own mandate he should have got rid of the grossly offensive, economically semi-literate Sinckler, preferably out of the Cabinet all together, along with Ms McClean, and reduce his ties with China.
    By May 2018 the entire nation was not only fed up, but embarrassed with the DLP (including myself) and understandably thought things could not get worse. They could and they have, under Mottley.
    However, unlike Stuart, who was merely incompetent, Mottley is dangerous and will sell the country to the highest bidder, or the bidder who flatters her most.
    Her politics are the enemy of black progress.

  38. Carson C Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C Cadogan

    It has been drawn to my attention that ELLERSLIE SCHOOL has been shut down. It is on quarantine A for two weeks.

    A 15 year old student and all her Family have the Virus. She got it from an Aunt who works as a Maid for a British returning visitor.


  39. Waittttt
    That a DLP talking about selling Barbados to the highest bidder?????

    Sandals, Hilton, the oil company

    He better support a third party if he coming with that foolishness

  40. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    And that is a School of 1,600 students.


  41. Reifer cant do squat

    The same way Clarke could get anything done under the DLP 10 yrs

    He can’t do ….. fir the next 13 or so year


  42. Could not get


  43. Politics in Barbados between political parties has not reached the level of maturity where the ruling party would answer requests from MPs of the opposition party.

    We’ve seen this played out with St. John and St. Lucy under BLP administrations……. and St. Thomas and St. Peter under the DEMS.

    The nature of politics is Reifer’s party is ‘not in power.’ So, he could post as many videos of bushy areas, talk about representing the constituency and the youth ‘as much as he likes.’


  44. He should have been cleaning the bush befor 2018 and he would get Moore votes now


  45. Talk about smokes and mirrors?

    He now wake up and find that the bush want clearing ?

    And he can clear it now if he get elected?


  46. DEM think SGN stupid ?

    He already play diwn the wrong line

  47. Carson C Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C Cadogan

    Where were the people of SGN when nothing was being done on their behalf????

    By their “”representative”” of 26 yrs.??? How did he get to “”represent”” them five years, after five years, after five years, after five years. after five years,…………

    While he enrich himself.

    And TONI MOORE will do the same.


  48. Evidence 130A
    The blp supporters nervous Reifer got them running to look at his videos
    Dont know why when they have a top dog as a candidate
    Reifer is just a plain old boy from SGN
    Lol

  49. Michael Campbell Avatar
    Michael Campbell

    Evidence 130A
    The blp supporters nervous Reifer got them running to look at his videos

    Mariposa, the same way people read your posts, they watched the video.

    So tell me how you arrive at saying that people watching the video is evidence that BLP supporters nervous?

    It just don’t make sense.

    You know the BLP supporters going to say that you nervous that Reifer gine get beat and that is why you on BU trying to push him.

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