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I ended part 2 of this series with the following:

Whether it is one third party or a coalition of third parties fighting the 2023 election is irrelevant. The important thing is to break the two-party system domination. Therefore, there are three things we have to do from here on: 1. Focus! 2. Focus! 3.Focus!

As I also pointed out in then, it would be foolhardy of any third party to count out the DLP. In point of fact, as long ago as October 2018, the DLP has started to get is political machinery in gear. Furthermore, Mr. Mayers, General Secretary of the party, had hinted at possible by-elections given that “a Member of Parliament…is very ill” and alleged that the head of one of the St. Philip candidates was “on the cutting board”.
Source: ‘Snap goes the Poll’, Barbados Today 10/29/18

Against the background of the above, I wish to raise the following two issues in relation to the agenda for a third party:

1. If Guyson Mayers is correct, should the PdP also prepare for and contest a by-election if and when it occurs?
2. Should the PdP fight the next election as a coalition?

Issue #1
On balance, I would answer in the affirmative with respect to this issue. The main advantage of such a move would be to test the waters for the new configuration that is called the PdP, birthed and bathed as it is, in controversy.

Of course, the question is whether the party has the resources to do so. I would argue that given the localization of the contest, the party should be able to drum up the resources. The real practical issue, however, is whether the party has such an election in its strategic focus and more importantly, the political machinery to tackle it.

Issue #2:
The issue of whether the PdP should fight the next election as a coalition is definitely a point open for debate. Peter Wickham does not think that the current opposition led by Joseph Atherley has a chance. Addressing the question of how Barbadian would vote if an election were called today he opines:

I don’t see him [Atherley] making it because…once parliament is dissolved Atherley ceases to be relevant ‘cause he has no political party to speak of, they don’t have any branches, they don’t have any branch movement…no branch chairman”
Daily Nation, Thursday 28 November, 2019

Is Mr Wickham’s opinion based on current/ recent research? The fact that he does not state so suggests the negative. The context in which Mr. Wickham spoke, a Rotary event, is also very interesting. Did he believe that he was speaking to a predominantly BLP oriented audience?

Those matters aside, if the deficiencies possessed by the PdP are as posited by Mr. Wickham, there is cause for concern for its status as a viable third party. Ergo, a coalition of some sort to fight the election will be necessary. But that raises the question of the readiness of the PdP and the “other third parties”.

I have always been very concerned about the issue of the readiness of “alternative parties” to fight elections in Barbados. It is quite clear that there is dearth of strategic (=medium to long term) thinking among the newer parties. Consequently, their appearance on the scene is almost without exception, ad hoc, i.e. for the current election only.

Such a non-strategic approach will not get a third party much traction – or respect for that matter – from the majority of the electorate. For this reason, the approach taken by Solutions Barbados re the 2018 election: that is engaging the Barbadian electorate some three years in advance, has to be commended. Where the party fell down is another matter.

The modus operandi has got to be that as soon as possible after the last election, party strategists get down to doing the hard research and planning to define the contours of a strategy going forward to the next election and even beyond. In the intervening years, that strategy has to be fleshed out and refined.

This is the same basic message that business students all over the world hear in any strategy management class. I am not sure, therefore, why any political party would think that its management is an exception to these strategic principles.

So the question is: Are the third parties, PdP in particular, listening to Mr. Wickham and to the strategic principles being enunciated here?

I wish to reiterate that there is mental space out there for a third party. However, as I have explained in previous instalments, capturing it will not come without a sustained battle.

Barbadians are by nature short-term thinkers. We are very much unlike many eastern peoples, the Chinese in particular, who are long-term thinkers. Speaking generally, that explains why we wait until a hurricane is upon us to buy emergency supplies, why we do not save and why we are always late! It is ingrained in our DNA. In the social psychology of Barbados, it is a major theme!

Now is the time for those who are committed to the development of a third party to get on board. Now is the time for such a party /parties to define their philosophy and goals and seek to attract quality membership. Three months before the election will definitely not do it. It’s all about three things: 1. Preparation, 2. Preparation, 3. Preparation!


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269 responses to “The Phartford Files: Agenda for a Third Party – Part 3”


  1. Don’t count out the DLP supporter some who might have stayed
    The operative word going into the next election is “the economy fool”
    I suspect Mia would be once again opening a treasure 📦 of more promises this time highlighted with more musical fanfares and under the table undetectable motions

  2. Piece the Legend Avatar

    @ the Honourable Blogmaster

    Orange font on Grey background is invisible……in your 7.13 am submission


  3. Ok…so in being fair, what? i am fair too you know, one would think the government has no choice at this cashless point in time to contract anyone from the majority population to build electric buses, fine. So it is essential to buy electric buses from China..fine. so they cannot have local entrepreneurs through the government contracts they love to give away freely to non majority members of the population start to replace their raggedy almost depleted fleet..

    But going forward should it be not only prudent but MANDATORY that all buses replaced in the future must be designed and produced in Barbados…using the skills of those in the majority population…it’s beyond UGLY and human rights violating that the majority population has always been DELIBERATLEY STOPPED by both ugly governments from utilizing their skills, innovation and creativity to manufacture, produce and get wealthly from THEIR OWN inventions… without being robbed.

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2019/11/30/electric-buses-from-china-as-bajan-model-unveiled/?fbclid=IwAR0ZYtJAeMgpSbK60hqOK1iFQncf24KyhhMQkSWnH8OAEhILGx59UAJSfnA

    “The deal has been sealed for Barbados to buy electric buses from China, the Prime Minister announced today, even as she hopped about a Transport Board bus that a St Michael firm has converted into an electric vehicle.

    The prototype could also prove to be the model for turning some of the public bus company’s engine-less fleet into running EV buses, she hinted.

    Mottley made the comments as she visited Endless Electric Limited at Lears, where Wayne Clarke and Dan Johnson had restored and retrofitted an old Transport Board diesel engine bus with an electric motor.”

  4. Piece the Legend Avatar

    @ the Honourable Blogmaster

    A rare occurrence indeed when you said and I quote

    “…but it is the perceived strength of the political party at the national level by the public that must create the impetus to penetrate the psyche of the electorate…”

    Now many get vex when I, Piece the Legend, convey the concept by which the PdP will “penetrate the psyche of the electorate….” to use your words.

    At comment 99, 1 day after “my prolific submissions” which your friend Ironside disliked because “I kidnapped his GRADUAL DEBATE” you finally understand WHAT DE OLE MAN IS SAYING!

    No de ole man expect 10 topics to be posted here on BU to “kill” this topic BUT, AT LEAST FOR YESTERDAY AND TODAY, it has brought all of the PdP big boys to the fight!

    Again here is what you said

    “…penetrate the psyche of the electorate….”

    THE REVEREND JOSEPH ATHERLEY MUST NOT BE THE ONE TO LEAD THE PEOPLE’S PARTY FOR DEMOCRACY AND DEVELOPMENT INTO THE 2021 GENERAL ELECTION!

    By making the 3 moves de ole man suggests

    1.shift from SMNW TO MUGABE MOTTLEY ‘s St Michael North East

    2.Announce this move immediately

    3.Post their meeting, and confirmation, announce the agreement to have Caswell Franklyn run as Leader of the PdP!

    It seems like you are finally understanding what de ole man is proposing as the ONLY MECHANISM TO IMMEDIATELY “…penetrate the psyche of the electorate…” @ 2019

    15 months before the next General Election

    Now here is where we the Electorate see if Reverend Atherley is doing this for the people of Barbados OR IF HE IS A MIA PLANT!


  5. David BU when will you rid us of this in my view madman Piece who is now talking like some demi god .In addition you also have the corruption queen Waru who spends all day on BU repeating the same boring rubbish all day on every topic.David BU do the majority of us a favour and rid us of these two jackasses it is becoming pitiful now in my view.Let them form their own blog to see how popular they actually are.

  6. Piece the Legend Avatar

    Enter the second of the 2 Rented Jackasses Hee Haw

    And upon what basis would you suggest that de Honourable Blogmaster expel me now?

    Disrespect did not work!

    Madness heheheheh if dat was a crime Mugabe de despot would have been committed for ***

    Oh um is posting on one specific Blog dat is de excuse?

    Leh de ole man see how dat one goes!

    No BU blogger shall post on one blog BECAUSE HIS FREQUENCY WILL STOP RENTED JACKASSES FROM POSTING RIGHT?

    Heheheheh

    Wunna really hate the fact dat Ironside blogged this item.

    I blogged an item earlier but…

  7. Piece the Legend Avatar

    De new feller pun duty so dem holding any comment that shows the PdP HOW THEY WILL WIN.

    @ Ironside

    You said and I quote

    “…Unfortunately in Barbados, we have the Law of Slow Learning and the Law of Fast Forgetting (not to mention Newton’s Law of inertia) in simultaneous operation!…”

    De ole man does call dem Sheeple and People

    How come nobody, including President for Life Simpleton Simon ent open she mouf to say nuffing to you?

    You like you got she frighten LIKE MUGABE GOT BAJANS SCARED SHY$ELESS

  8. Piece the Legend Avatar

    @ the Honourable Blogmaster your assistance please with an item here which gave 3 Simple Steps to the PdP for their victory.

    Why you hiding it?


  9. @David November 30, 2019 7:13 AM

    Re: @Ironside

    ++Do not agree with you. As stated abouve , these are fringe votes that will never count enough to win seats+++

    David, you missed my caveat:

    +++if that segment is substantial. This calls for serious research upfront.++++

    I have NOT defined the term “religious vote” so as a strategic practitioner I cannot prejudge the size of this vote. It is an empirical question. However, consider the ALLEGED influence of this vote in the 2016 USA election re. Donald Trump. [ N.B.: “religious vote” in Bim not necessarily equal – definitionally I mean – to US vote!?]

    On the road shortly… Will check back hour or two.


  10. @Ironside

    Unsure of the applicability to the US voting pattern. Is the Barbados vote so stratified? Empirical evidence you are right will have to confirm but anecdotal evidence says our voter behaviour cannot be coded along the same behaviour.


  11. BREAKING UNCONFIRMED NEWS

    ” Deadly cutlass attack in St Andrew ”

    https://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/242906/deadly-cutlass-attack-st-andrew


  12. Nation news

    Unconfirmed reports reaching Nation News indicate three people were killed by a man with a cutlass in Walkers, St Andrew, this morning.

    Police are said to be on the scene


  13. Loop market
    BREAKING NEWS |

    Police PRO: Three dead in Walkers incidentLOOP NEWS CREATED : 30 NOVEMBER 2019BARBADOS NEWS

    Three persons have lost their lives at Walkers in St Andrew.

    Independence Day 2019 has been marred by a fatal incident in rural Barbados.

    Police Public Relations Officer, Acting Inspector Rodney Inniss told Loop News at 10.20 am today, that police officers on the scene confirmed that three persons were killed at Walkers. “Yes, I can confirm that.”

    He said that is all the information he could disclose at this time


  14. @ Piece the Legend November 30, 2019 7:26 AM
    “@ the Reverend Joseph Atherley

    No matter which agent of the Barbados Labour Party WHO HAS PLAYED OFF THE RELIGIOUS NAME OF IRONSIDE SMARTLY (see the entry of that name on this blospace), no matter what you are told about that hairbrained idea of YOUR FINDING A DEPUTY , do not entertain it!
    If you do, IT WILL KILL THE PDP!
    You are being lured NOT ONLY TO YOUR POLITICAL DEATH, but, if you follow the reincarnated Ironside down this rabbit hole, IT WILL TRANSFORM YOU, AND THE PDP, INTO FEMALE RABBITS and CHVUNTS!
    Ok, don’t take what Piece the Legend is saying to you as the Truth!
    But go to your constituency AND WALK THROUGH IT and observe the way how people react to you @ 2019!
    Test de ole man’s assessment of your political currency Joe, prove me wrong yourself.
    You are on your way out, comfortably so too, but this is your swansong..”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Of course old Rev. Joe knows he has committed electoral hari-kari when he sold his soul to the Constitutional devil in order to make the Mottley administration a ‘legitimate’ dictatorship.

    Like the prototype Judas he has sold his previous loyalty for a mess of silver-haired pottage in the form of a handsome parliamentary pension in the capacity of the LoO and supported by the expected savings from 4 to 5 years salary to rival that of a minister of the Crown.

    Rev. Joe has no ‘future’ political leadership stocks to invest in. And he is quite aware of this despite his ‘Federal’ schooldays dream of rising from head boy to PM.

    The Herculean challenge for the retiring one-man sitting on that single bench pretending to be opposing the one-party regime is how long he can put up with the prearranged charade.

    Is he going to call it quits and let another fellow- but younger turk who fancies himself to be another ‘pretend’ red turncoat- perform an act of chameleon distinction by transforming into a ‘pinkish’ yellow or blue one-man politically ‘green’ band?

    There is only person to be held responsible for the current political stalemate in Parliament. That is, the checkmated King Stuart the naked emperor of self-induced political impotence.


  15. In a very close contest all votes count. I think we once had an election where somebody was beaten by less than five votes. We have thirty constituencies so it’s folly to suggest that “fringe “ votes or voters can’t impact an election results. If a third party candidate gets twenty five or thirty votes in a close election , it impacts the outcome and if that is repeated in six close contests, those votes could actually determine who wins and which party could form the government.
    In an election like the last one such votes would have perhaps been insignificant but in a close contest , it’s a completely different story.
    Quite frankly it’s not very accurate to judge the impact of the third parties’ contribution by the outcome of the last election.


  16. Let me start my BU day by wishing a “Happy Independence Day” to all.


  17. @ Miller

    Mottley did not need Atherley to make her government legitimate because the government was never illegitimate and certainly it cannot be seriously deemed a dictatorship. The government won the election and that’s all there is to it.


  18. @WS
    Your message of 11:29 a.m is even more profound than you think it is..
    You could be our John the Baptist crying in the wilderness of BU.

    Let me approach your numbers but from a completely different tangent.

    In the last election, approximately 1500,000 votes were cast. With 30 constituencies, that is an average of 5,000 voters in each constituency. In our quest for 1 million citizens, a new ethnic group with 50,000 voters located in the competive constituencies could transform the face of our government by winning at least ten seats on their own, or by tipping the scales to the party which promises the most.

    Look at the number of votes the winner in different constituencies got in the 30-0 victory of 2018. It was around 3 to 4 thousand.

    http://www.caribbeanelections.com/bb/elections/bb_results_2018.asp

    The 5 votes that you speak of would no longer matters as the voting pattern/demographics has been transformed with the influx of 50, 000 new voters seeking their own interests.

    Also complicating that matter is that if these 50,000 voters felt beholden to those who brought them in, the voice of the old majority population could be somewhat muted and the ruling party could be in power for a long time.

    Say No to the 1 million population. Say No to the half-million population. They will make you second class citizens in the land of your birth.


  19. @ William Skinner November 30, 2019 11:36 AM

    How can the machinery of ‘Governance’ (the executive arm of the Crown) function within the four walls of the Bajan Constitution without an ‘appointed’ Leader of Her Majesty’s Opposition?

    If not the willing “Atherley”, who then would have filled that Constitutionally-mandate role?

    If no one else is prepared to play the ‘acting’ role of Judas would there have been a need to return to the polls (electorate) until a person opposed to the policies of the BLP is elected like playing a game of knockout cricket or football?

    Let us qualify that noun of “dictatorship” by using that practically apt word “de facto”.

    We would not go that far as to describe it as an ‘elected’ dictatorship; albeit benign.


  20. @ Hants

    Barbados is an angry place. Yet, despite all this, there is nothing being done or said about reform to the criminal justice system, or even law and order policy nor is there a tenable criminological explanation. Why?


  21. I love typos. They take a simple sentence and turn it to sheer nonsense.
    Correction”: In the last election, approximately 150,000 (150K) votes were cast


  22. @ Hal,

    My layman’s opinion is that these are some of the causes of crime in Barbados.

    Mental illness, Anger, indiscipline and a drugs and gangs culture.


  23. @David
    No Independence message? Happy Independence day!

    Irving Burgie timed his exit well, farewell to this vale of tears…

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2019/11/30/irving-burgie-dies/


  24. @ Hants

    I think you are right, along with economic pressures. The problem is that we do not keep proper official statistics on crime. In Barbados, crime is officially mainly a black, working class issue. Do you remember the man who shot his son by ‘accident’? The man and his son who beat up a black man for being in the wrong area at the wrong time? The thugs who walked in to the woman’s boutique in Speightstown and down rubbish? The teenage arsonist? The drug smuggler? I can go on.
    Sometime ago I suggested to Amit that he could improve his records by making some additions to his list. So far no luck.
    Again you may remember @PLT raising the issue of crime being a public health issue and joining the long list of those talking about the so-called Glasgow model; that is nonsense. Others are looking at the cognitive developments of young men, mainly aged under 25.
    Whatever the answer, we need to look seriously at crime causation and stop our brutish magistrate(s) from just warehousing young men.
    Two good books to read on the subject: The New Jim Crow, by Michelle Alexander, and Stony the Road, by Henry Louis ‘Skip’ Gates. Another good book is that by Stuart Hall, Policing the Crisis.


  25. @TheOGazerts

    Your point is well taken We keep forming social policy like a chicken with its head cut off. Here we have a population under 400 000. About a million people come in as tourists and we have to develop an infrastructure to accommodate them.
    Yet, we have trained economists talking about importing Labour in large numbers; in the meantime we are educating people that cannot find jobs and telling them to go overseas to find work. Never mind the recent retrenchment of both parties.
    So you are absolutely correct. Those who come in can find themselves as potent political players and with strategic placement could actually influence if not determine the outcome of an election.
    A simple point to ponder: Imagine a squatter development with three hundred people in a constituency who believe that a particular party is favorable to them. Imagine that if able to vote how they can actually sink the candidate of the other party. Now multiply other similar factors in other constituencies and the picture you painted is very clear to those who still have heads on their necks.


  26. @ Hal
    We seem to be constantly pushing our hand into thorns and all we are getting is blood. Yet we push them anyway and call the blood milk.
    Who are these trained social scientists? What really is their role? What were they taught at university?
    Are we really getting even minimum returns for the taxpayers investment?
    These are the questions that ordinary citizens ask everyday on brass tacks.
    We keep believing that the masses who built this country are ignorant or unaware . It’s just they are benevolent and have an abundance of patience.


  27. @ William

    I try not to get angry, but it is disappointing that our rulers are so incompetent. I try to compare them with work being done by black social scientists in the US and UK, and every time they are found wanting. It is the culture.
    Sometime ago the late Trevor ‘Job’ Clarke introduced me to a young man with a PhD (he called himself doctor) from UWI. I was embarrassed for the young man. In my time, young men at St Giles had more interesting conversations. But these are the young men and women (mainly men) that we celebrate.


  28. @Sargeant

    No contrived message this year.


  29. @William

    Fringe vote has nothing to do with a close outcome. It is about winning a seat by a third party candidate will have to win core support from BDLP plus organic. If you do not get it Ironside, Artax or one of the bright ones will explain.


  30. @Hal AustinNovember 30, 2019 12:04 PM

    @ Hants

    Barbados is an angry place. Yet, despite all this, there is nothing being done or said about reform to the criminal justice system, or even law and order policy nor is there a tenable criminological explanation. Why?

    There you go again with your bullshit…I didn’t see that type of post from you when when Khan went on a stabbing spree on the bridge in the UK earlier this week.


  31. @ Lorenzo November 30, 2019 8:06 AM

    No such luck; its freedom of speech, amigo.

    Do you think that the problem might be that the Waru-Piece-GP trio may actually be alter egos of each other? It seems that there is a lot of schizophrenia on this blog. Perhaps stocks of medication may be running low?

    In the meantime, I suggest you try sipping Daphne’s Old-Fashioned Ice Cold Ignore Tea. One cup per day should do the trick!


  32. @David November 30, 2019 2:06 PM
    Re: @William

    Fringe vote has nothing to do with a close outcome.
    AGREED!
    It has to do with an outcome, period!

    ….third party candidate will have to win core support from BDLP plus organic.
    Basically TRUE!

    The task before the third party is a typical entrepreneurial/ market entry problem encountered every day in Marketing. In this case a TPP needs to build organic franchise from among the so-called uncommitted vote (an easier task) AWA seek to switch BDLP voters (not so easy; more long term).

    At this time, any serious TPP ought to be studying the last election results for starters because, like it or not, the 2018 election was a water shed moment for TPPs. There has to be data in those results that can help it distinguish between/ estimate, even if crudely, core support for the duopoly vis-à-vis the “uncommitted vote” AKA swing vote (even these terms need rigorous definition) and from there, help a serious TPP find a starting place for its first constituency branches.

    That is, of course, after it gets better organized with the service of a cadre of individuals with an unswerving, long-term commitment to its success; a capacity building exercise.

    In summary, gentlemen, this is an entrepreneurial/marketing problem not unlike any other in the world of business.

  33. Piece the Legend Avatar

    Let de ole man try to ketch up with the comments of the 10? outspoken bloggers on this site of the self proclaimed strategist Ironside with the bedside manner of ***

    And his signature ++++ delimiters before and after quoted speech.

    Never included in the text BUT ALWAYS BEFORE THE TEXT!

    Commander Theophillus Gazerts de ole man unfortunately CANNOT WISH YOU HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY because, in the presence of the impending dilution of citizenship, that state becomes a moot point.

    Couple that with the inequity that exists in Bim and well, it, EQUITY, is a fallacy where one law obtains for thieves like Pornville and poor MEN WHO GET 12 MONTHS FOR A $6.99 fingernail clippers and Clico robbers getting knighthoods

    But here is what you said of Mugabe’s immigration plan

    “…Also complicating that matter is that if these 50,000 voters felt beholden to those who brought them in, the voice of the old majority population could be somewhat muted and the ruling party could be in power for a long time…”

    Xenophobia has its logic when a people see their ultimate decimation in numbers and are reminded daily of their slow extinction by hajibs and accents of the Invader!

    What is the correct mix Commander would be the question that I ask you, a man living in a “strange land” yourself like Joseph did in Egypt?

    Mugabe and Edmund Hinkson do not have any intention of flooding the country with 750,000 people BECAUSE OF THAT SELF EXTINCTION “GENE MARKER” but AS YOU HAVE RIGHTLY DISCERNED, this is a political ploy.

    And it will be accomplished in 2020 WHERE A GHOST IMMIGRATION POLICY AND PRACTICE WILL EXPAND THE POPULATION COUNT!

    I got to go and address another matter here on Barbados Underground

    De ole man has killed another 3 people in Walkers in St Andrew so excuse me…


  34. RE Do you think that the problem might be that the Waru-Piece-GP trio may actually be alter egos of each other?
    I THOUGHT YOU HAD A PhD IN PSYCHOLOGY?


  35. @ Blogmaster

    Perhaps we can delete one of these copies?

  36. Piece the Legend Avatar

    @ the Honourable Blogmaster your assistance please

    @ Ironside

    More waffle and shy$e talk from you with the Entrepreneurial marketing plan or whatever you want to call it.

    The only option dat the Reverend has in this battle IS TO ATTACK MUGABE MOTTLEY

    IN HER CONSTITUENCY!

    47 down and 3 to go!

    Prediction or Prophecy?


  37. @ GP November 30, 2019 3:17 PM

    Peter Drucker, (1909-2005) management guru, held a J.D (Doctor of Jurisprudence).

    Some of us have wide intellectual interests! does it matter?

  38. Piece the Legend Avatar

    @ Dr GP my fellow myope,

    You noticed his waffling credentials too?

    PhD in psychology.

    You note how he gets to post duplicates freely AND RECEIVES NO MESSAGE SAYING A DUPLICATE EXISTS ON BU, but the Honourable Blogmaster does block yours and mine?

    Dem hate Waru, you and me bad doah (I notice dat dem ease off My Commander Theophillus Gazerts a little though heheheheh)

  39. Piece the Legend Avatar

    @ Ironside

    I’ll be yah Huckleberry heheheheh

    Back to your waffle!

    You, in your poor effort to sway the PdP said and I quote

    “…For this reason, the approach taken by Solutions Barbados re the 2018 election: that is engaging the Barbadian electorate some three years in advance, has to be commended…”

    Ironside, you mekking mock sport right?

    This one man party who sought to hide 30 candidates in Wentworth College where he was giving imaginary courses in Entrepreneurial Education?

    What you say he did again?

    According to the Honourable Blogmaster

    STEUPSEEE (heheheheh)


  40. PIECE

    THIS IRONSIDE FELLOW COME HERE A FEW DAYS AGO AND SAID

    ” I am not a clinical psychologist but my doctoral thesis was grounded in social psychology. The rest I have gathered by interest and wide reading.piece”

    BUT HE DONT SEEM TO KNOW ANYTHING BOUT DE SUBJECT AT ALL
    HE SOUND LIKE HUCKLEBERRY HOUND FUH TRUTE

  41. Piece the Legend Avatar

    @ Ironside

    You said and I quote

    “…So the question is: Are the third parties, PdP in particular, listening to Mr. Wickham and to the strategic principles being enunciated here?…”

    What is your fixation with Peter Wickham?

    Every second word out your mouth is what Peter Wickham or Guyston Mayers said!

    Where is your opinion?

    Do you have any opinion?

    Up to now you have said nothing to tell the RH PdP what to do as you Glover trot from american polls to Chinese DNA.

    Not one FVUCK!!!

    Even the Honourable Blogmaster has taken you to task on the Peter Wickham issue of credibility and the audience he Wickham is playing to

    I am sorry to be exposing you and your trademark style like this but de ole man NO LONGER SEES WITH THE PHYSICAL EYES ALONE, Ironside, I discern all that you say.

    You are holding back your customary responses with great mental strain because my antipodean dialogue is showing you up.

    So, in characteristic style you slip in you best insult WITHOUT SLIPPING INTO YOUR CHARACTERISTIC BEHAVIOURS heheheheh

    My rebuttal over the last 36 hours is like a (BIG) Iron (in your back) side AND YOU ARE DOING YOUR BEST TO CONTAIN YOURSELF, but you cast the first stone, bid you not?

    So, either you suffer under this persona, for the next 15 months, OR YOU EXPOSE YOURSELF AND BE SEEN TO BE WHO YOU ARE!


  42. @Ironside

    For a moment had to review the comment posted to establish it was not in hieroglyphics. Thanks for explaining to William.

    The data will show that the level of voter apathy reached a rock bottom level caused by the worst government Barbados has had since Independence. How the electorate will respond post 2018 general election in the opinion of this blogmaster is an unknown variable. What is known is that there is opportunity for a third party(ies) to rake root. How they do it, the script is a work in progress.


  43. Well, they certainly gotta watch how they running around in the Caribbean thinking they can murder dissidents who oppose their criminality, or even people they have targeted TO ROB to pretend they are suddenly these big African descendants rushing off to Africa every second…..when they never even wanted to be called Black let alone African before..lol..as in Barbados’ case….this is a different era..

    where are the fowls, is this not Mia’s good friend..

    https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-latin-america-50611555?fbclid=IwAR3Zl95G9YIYEqJtuUK5itfPLM8RS0r8vtN7ea_0dmUYEWpW-rc3QqDtlAA

    “Suriname’s President Desi Bouterse has been sentenced to 20 years in prison over the execution of 15 political opponents in 1982.

    Bouterse, 74, is currently on an official visit in China and will have two weeks to appeal against the conviction.

    He was found guilty of planning and ordering the extrajudicial execution of 15 political prisoners.

    The president has previously denied the allegations.

    He claimed the victims, who included lawyers, union leaders and journalists, were shot while trying to escape a colonial-era fortress in Paramaribo, the capital of the South American country.

    Bourtese led Suriname during the 1980s as head of a military government and de facto leader.

    He took office as president in 2010, following a democratic election and was elected for another term in 2015.”


  44. @Ironside

    An important consideration that third parties have to consider is the type of leadership. Barbadians appear to like assertive political leaders. In the landscape we have Mia walks tall whether we like it or not.


  45. Define “walking tall”

    “Unconfirmed reports reaching Nation News indicate three people were killed by a man with a cutlass in Walkers, St Andrew, this morning.”


  46. Piece..no matter how they try to suppress the murder numbers, for some reason they just keep rising..

  47. NorthernObserver Avatar

    This is akin to predicting the winner of next year’s Gold Cup, on which, we actually have more information. A date and a distance. A ‘star’ candidate for any party, will upset all speculation.

  48. Piece the Legend Avatar

    @ Ironside

    Your final statement in ALL YOUR WAFFLE……heheheheh

    “…Now is the time for those who are committed to the development of a third party to get on board. Now is the time for such a party /parties to define their philosophy and goals and seek to attract quality membership….”

    Do you realise that, in ALL OF YOUR JOB APPLICATION ATTEMPT to become a Political Strategist for the People’s Party for Democracy and Development, in all of your submissions here, YOU HAVE NOT GIVEN ONE SINGLE SUGGESTION TO THE PDP that it can implement???

    Not even one!

    You realise that you have said a. WHAT EVERYONE IS SAYING ABOUT IT? b. WHAT PEOPLE IN CHINA ARE LIKE? c. WHAT THE NO SOLUTIONS BARBADOS PARTY THAT LOST THEIR DEPOSIT DID? and a whole set of jobby?

    You understand how disappointed the Honourable Blogmaster must be for allowing you to post here?

    You recognize how happy he is dat de ole man come and mash up your waffle with some good “iron” in your back “side”? Figuratively speaking!

    Hold it, hold it! This persona cannot do what the other fellow does heheheheh (I know, i does GOAD wunna too bad, I musee got a PhD in Psychology too)

    All that is left for you now is to wait till tomorrow when the Honourable Blogmaster posts the article on the 47 deaths officially and 53 UNOFFICIALLY when you will be released from championing this topic WHICH YOU FAILED IN!

The blogmaster invites you to join the discussion.

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