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Submitted by Terence Blackett

Charles Darwin

โ€œIn the beginning God created the heaven and the earth โ€“ Gen. 1:1

Who holds the โ€œpatentโ€ on the things we see all around us in nature? How do we explain that it takes an estimated 100,000 different proteins to construct a human being? Is that the product of accident, chance or randomization โ€“ or does it spell Intelligent Design? For many, the origin of how life emerged remains one of the great unsolved mysteries and conundrums for both ancient and modern science.

It is recognized that the subject of this current piece is beyond the gamut of unlimited word count to do it any serious scholarship โ€“ however as this is a galvanizing issue and feelings run deep on both sides of the divide, we will attempt to do some form of interim justice given our lack of brevity. For although questions regarding the genesis of life remain a talking-point even within the realm of philosophy – religion (understandably) dominates this platform; yet science continues to hold its own in keeping the debate alive.

So how can concepts like โ€˜abiogenesisโ€™, โ€˜exogenesisโ€™, โ€˜quantum mechanicsโ€™ and โ€˜stellar nucleosynthesisโ€™ assist us in making sense of our primordial quest for understanding?

Let us begin in 1870 where Thomas Huxley opined that “I shall call theโ€ฆdoctrine that living matter may be produced by not living matter, the hypothesis of abiogenesis…” This was a paleoanthropological echo from a not too distant past when Charles Darwin had chained himself to the Tower of Babel in defense that there was no GOD* and in turn hatched a lurid tales of spontaneous regeneration of biological organisms which metamorphosed over billions of years to eventual form all living things including man.

In 1924, Russian biochemist Alexander Oparin also proposed that living cells arose gradually from nonliving matter through a sequence of chemical reactions. This โ€œWarm Soupโ€ theory by evolutionary scientists suggest that according to Oparin, โ€œgases present in the atmosphere of primitive earth, when induced by lightening or other sources of energy, would react to form simple organic compounds. These compounds would subsequently self-assemble into increasingly complex molecules such as proteins. These, in turn, would organize themselves into living cells.โ€

So abiogenesis โ€“ is that field of science dedicated to studying how life might have arisen for the first time on planet earth as some form of primordial protoplasmic globule โ€“ a basis that is challenged by the proponents of exogenesis; both concepts in one way or another debunked by quantum mechanics and stellar nucleosynthesis propping up the Big Bang theory and the evolution of life forms.

Huxleyโ€™s echo continues to reverberate even today as we witness the power of pseudo-indoctrination and its effects upon the human mind. โ€œI had motives for not wanting the world to have a meaning; consequently assumed that it had none, and was able without any difficulty to find satisfying reasons for this assumption. The philosopher who finds no meaning in the world is not concerned exclusively with a problem in pure metaphysics, he is also concerned to prove that there is no valid reason why he personally should not do as he wants to do, or why his friends should not seize political power and govern in the way that they find most advantageous to themselves… For myself, the philosophy of meaninglessness was essentially an instrument of liberation, sexual and political.โ€ A. Huxley (evolutionist, leftist, and grandson of T.H. Huxley, known as “Darwin’s bulldog”): Ends and Means, p. 270.

Therefore, if abiogenesis posits this idea of life emerging from virtually nothing, it is clear to see why men fail to believe in the existential nature of a Creator GOD* and that as the Designer โ€“ He made all things according to His will and commands. Huxley, like many, have landed in a quagmire of meaningless; a soup-bowl of void and nothingness โ€“ to find themselves vacuous, empty and alone in the universe.

Let us now examine the theory of exogenesis or panspermia (mutually interchangeable terminologies with slight variants at times) as it is referred to in some circles. Exogenesis is a hypothesis that originated in the 19th century in opposition to the theory of spontaneous generation. The physics of the universe describes exogenesis as an alternative to earthly abiogenesis hypothesizing that “primitive life may have originally formed extraterrestrially, either in space or on a nearby planet such as Mars. Such ideas have had many eminent supporters over the years, including Francis Crick, the co-discoverer of the structure of the DNA molecule, and the astrophysicist Sir Fred Hoyle among others. These theories may go some way to explaining the presence of life on Earth so soon after the planet had cooled down, with apparently very little time for prebiotic evolution.”

But there’s a problem here!

If the โ€œseedsโ€ of life already existed somewhere in the universe or from some nearby or distant galaxy, and that life on earth may have originated through some form of scattered “star-dust” (symbolic of the same way a farmer scatters seed into the wind to sow crops) – then life on our planet was the indirect result of cosmic geoponics involving interdependent cross-colonization and cross-fertilization from nearby worlds. Therefore it would be safe to conclude that there is a reverse process as well โ€“ though no scientific proof exists anywhere.

At the molecular level, life as we know it requires the elements hydrogen, carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, iron, phosphorus and sulphur to exist at sufficient densities and temperatures for the chemical reactions between them to occur. These conditions however are not widespread in the universe, so this limits the distribution or scattering of life as an ongoing process damaging the environment for life, as it would be exposed to radiation, cosmic rays, stellar winds and other rogue cosmologies.

Clearly, exogenesis lacks creditability or validity barring a few who would choose to believe that life on earth was the direct result of extraterrestrial phenomena – something Hollywood is keen to exploit in order to engage weak, flaccid and debilitated minds who believe that the concept of a Creator is too simplistic a notion to be given any credence – which brings us to the least understood topic of quantum mechanics and how it can explain (if at all) the origins of life.

Bioastronomy and astrophysics have been in a race to build a quantum computer with the ability to process massive informational data resources inconceivable to the human mind โ€“ given the premise that life as defined by information processing and replicating systems could prove that the abovementioned theories of abiogenesis and exogenesis were merely random concoctions of a primordial chemical soup mix.

While some argue that quantum theory deals with the structure and behaviour of atoms and molecules and it really has absolutely nothing to do with the mythology of abiogenesis or exogenesis as a matter of fact โ€“ yet quantum mechanics does provide (in theory) the building blocks of biochemistry and therefore provides the relative forces including the coherence, entanglement and superposition constituents which allow non-living matter to make up living matter. The plausibility of this speculative assertion rests, however, on life somehow circumventing the decoherence effects of environmental phenomena.

To simplify – Paul Davies suggests for decoherence to be avoided: “In the presence of environmental noise, the delicate phase relationships that characterize quantum effects get scrambled, turning pure quantum states into mixtures and in effect marking a transition from quantum to classical behaviour. Only so long as decoherence can be kept at bay will explicitly quantum effects persist.” But based on this process of randomization โ€“ how plausible is it to keep the fluidity of environmental noise at bay? This is the conundrum!

So to posit with any degree of certainty that the effects of quantum mechanics will play a significant or decisive role in managing the proprietary blends of either abiogenesis or exogenesis would be the subject of an advanced research project.

However, to bring home the disparity that exist within quantum mechanics and the origins of life can be cited from theoretical physicist Paul Davies who argues that “the transition from non-life to life was a quantum-mediated process, and that the earliest form of life involved nontrivial quantum mechanical aspects.” However, J. D. Sinclair argues that based on the Copenhagen Interpretation that “the first question is the indeterminacy of matter while in an unobserved state. This indeterminacy seems to agree very well with a Hindu worldview. Hindus believe the world observed through our senses is an illusion, and the actual reality (the universe) is itself God. One can argue that indeterminacy proves that nature is an illusion after all. It also seems to show that there can be no reality outside the universe, hence God is the universe or there is no God.”

Davies believe that โ€œthe field of molecular biology posed interesting scenarios according to Schrodinger (1944) where the stable transmission of genetic information from generation to generation in discrete bits implied a quantum mechanical process, although he was unaware of the role of or the specifics of genetic encoding. But could quantum mechanics solve the issue of the living state of matter? Or did the quantum mechanical process play a key role in the emergence of life up to a predetermined level, and subsequently ceased to be a significant factor when life became fully emergent?โ€

These are the issues which science is still trying to answer!

The final aspect of our narrative termed stellar nucleosynthesis deals with this concept some call the โ€œBIG BANGโ€ where some proponents believe that many of the plagues which were experienced in the last millennia was due to this theory.

Science explains stellar nucleosynthesis as the collective term for the nuclear reactions taking place in stars to build the nuclei of the elements heavier than hydrogen. Small quantity of these reactions also occurs on the stellar surface under various circumstances. For the creation of elements during the explosion of a star, the term supernova nucleosynthesis is used. So for BIG-BANG* theorists like Chris Halsall this phenomenon is a crucial determinant in their orthodoxy to prove that this is how life originated.

A quantum leap back into the past to the year 1348 – Europe has fallen under the shadow of the Black Death. The Black Death sweeps through Europe between 1348 to 1353 and is thought to have killed one-third of London’s citizens. Many believe that this was the prophesied time of the [7] last plagues of Revelation 15:5, โ€œas the plague decimates all in its path, fear and superstition are rife.โ€

These were the cinematographic portrayals and projections from the 2010 box office movie release aptly entitled โ€œThe Black Deathโ€. Hollywoodโ€™s fascination with dark, sinister themes throws us back to a bygone era in time where myths, legends and folklore ruled the day. The Biblical idea of plagues as is termed in Revelation 8:10-11 where it says: “And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter” is a prophecy of damnable proportions which cannot be easily deconstructed using scientific jargon.

But today, the objectification of that kind of medieval primordiality is coined in the words โ€œconspiracy theoryโ€, โ€œdoomsday propheciesโ€ and neomythology โ€“ theories that tend to either excite, scare or irate most who are moved by them either in one way or another.

However, the line between Hollywood fiction and what is real has been so blurred and it is difficult to tell who is really writing the historical script โ€“ both past and present.

A recent study by a team of paleo-archeologists, osteologists and others from universities in Canada and Germany unearthed surviving fragments of DNA in bones and teeth of 2,400 victims of the Black Death who were buried at a special cemetery a few metres from the Tower of London, providing samples for a ground-breaking research study.

The research indicated that the yersina pestis microbe (the infectious agent) was not present on the British mainland prior the Black Death, which suggest it reached Britain from elsewhere. But how did it get here? What were its origins?

A Roman Catholic nun in Italy, Sister Mariaelena Bianchessi draws on theories presented by Dr. Fred Hoyle and Dr. Chandra Wickramasinghe, both known for their belief that influenza outbreaks are caused by newly arriving viruses from outer space in a recently published a research paper. If this can be proved under vigorous examination โ€“ then it goes quite some distance in proving the inerrant accuracy of the Bible. The other aspects of this theory can be explored in greater details at publication.

Finally, in conclusion, we can wrap up our theoretical sketch by skimming the surface of the creationist debate to see how they juxtapose with the other theories.

In our world currently, many religious fundamentalists believe that the earth and everything on it was created a six [24] hour days, [6000] years ago while evolutionary scientists, atheists and others believe that a Creator GOD* is a myth and as Professor Hawking lamented earlier this year that โ€œHeavenโ€ โ€˜is a place reserved for people who are afraid of the darkโ€™. Musketeers like Hawking, Dawkins & Co; believe the Bible is a book filled with mythology; life is the product of randomization; most importantly, life is the product of undirected events. What is lost in the argument is that theoretical scientists look at the designs in nature and copy products and technologies which have been very beneficial to mankind โ€“ however they fail miserably in answering with any intellectual honesty the question that says – โ€œif the copy required a designer, what about the ORIGINAL?โ€

Evolutionary science hinges on [3] basic myths: Mutations provide the raw materials needed to create new species; Natural selection led to the creation of new species; and fossil records document macroevolutionary changes. However, like Christianity, to a lesser extent, belief in evolution requires a serious act of faith. But as evolutionist Richard Lewontin states, โ€œMany scientist refuse even to consider the possibility of an intelligent Designer because we cannot allow a Divine foot in the door.โ€


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  1. What a coincidence, just in time to keep the combatants whaling away at each other here is a story from todayโ€™s New York Times titled โ€œNew Fossils May Redraw Human Ancestryโ€

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/09/science/09fossils.html?src=me&ref=general


  2. @Sargeant

    Oh Dear!


  3. apparently tb is a homo eructus Homo habilis or Homo rudolfensis (who likes to talk a lot).
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14824435


  4. New York Times, “New Fossils May Redraw Human Ancestry.”

    The Evolutionary community of pseudo- scientist, have attempted this HOAX* stunt before the world Media, a number of times in the past, and as usual, always come with such FANCY talk, which to the ‘uninitiated’ to use Lewontin’s catch word don’t understand the FABRICATED LIES, to make some fossil APPEAR as though its some ancestral link to Man, and in some cases, they do appear impressive, and certainly seem so to students.

    But, with the passage of time, whenever the so-called transitional fossil evidence, are carefully examined by other TRUE scientist, “…we find EACH example withers under the WEIGHT of accumulated evidence.Derek Ager, the late Professor of Geology at Swansea, Wales, and a fervent
    anti-creationist, has said:”

    ” It must be significant that nearly all the evolutionary stories I learned as a student, from Trueman’s ‘Ostrea/Gryphea’ to Carruther’s ‘Zaphrentis delanouei’, have now been ‘DEBUNKED.’ Similarly, my own experience of more than twenty years looking FOR evolutionary lineages among Mesozoic Brachiopoda has proved THEM equally ELUSIVE.” ( Ibid., p. 353 Emphasis added).

    Back to some more “EVOLUTION: the fossils STILL say NO”

    “We thus note, first of all, that ALL schemes that try to derive Amphibians, and thus, the “first” tetapods, from FISH to ancestor are nothing more tan scenarios that CANNOT* qualify as scientific theories, Furthermore, there IS* a great discontinuity BETWEEN all FISH and ALL Amphibians, regardless of which evolutionary pathway IS* IMAGINED, between fish and amphibians. All the fish cited as being the most likely ancestors of amphibians ARE 100% FISH, which were required to spend ALL of their time in the WATER, ( As God created them!) While ALL of the so-called descendant amphibians were 100% amphibians, with the basic amphibian limbs, feet, and legs. NO ONE has succeeded in finding a SINGLE transitional form with part FINS and part FEET. If such had been found, it would immediately become clear which of the competing candidates as the ancestor of amphibians was the true ancestor. But the controversies rage on. Transitional forms have NOT* been found, because they NEVER EXISTED. Evolution of living organisms did NOT take place on earth.” ( Ibid., p.92 Emphasis added).

    The Great Diversity of Amphibians.

    “Modern amphibians are immensely DIVERSE, withy more than 4,0000 species. These 4,000 species are included in three orders: the Urodela (Salamanders and newts); the Gymnophiona ( caecilians, as so-called apodans, wormlike amphibians with NO TRACE of limbs); and the Anura (frogs and toads). When they first APPEARED in the fossil record, they were just as they ARE TODAY, modern in appearance and very diverse in structure.” Carrol says:

    “Despite these similarities, frogs, salamanders, and caelilians are very different from one another in skeletal structure and ways of life, both now and throughout their known fossil record…we have found NO fossil evidence of any possible antecedents that possessed the SPECIALIZED features common to all three modern orders…in the absence of fossil evidence tgat frongs, salamanders, and caeilians evolved from close common ancestors, we must consider the possibility that each of the modern orders evolved from a distinct group of Paleozoic amphibiams.”

    So, “Where are the transitional forms showing some fish evolving in a LIMBLESS aistopod with its SNAKE-LIKE body wit up to 230 vertebrates, all of the simple, spool type? It is FACTS of this kind that emphasize TOTAL BANKRUPTCY of evolution theory.” ( Ibid., p.95 Emphasis added)

    Once again, Evolutionists, Atheist, Agnostic, et al, the story is the same, NO fossil proof for evolution theory. BUT, emphatic EVIDENCE from the fossil record, FOR Creation, as it WAS* in the beginning, with God!!!


  5. @ ZOE

    After reading the discourse between @ROK & @ CHRIS HALSALL about the appearance of cosmic phenomenon in the HEAVENS* – HAS NOT THE BIBLE ADDRESSED THIS ISSUE OF THE LAST DAYS WHERE SIGNS IN THE SUN, MOON, STARS & IN THE HEAVENS* AS A PRETEXT OF THE COMING OF JESUS CHRIST?

    COULD YOU ELABORATE ON THIS?


  6. Kiki ……you are brilliant! Love your quotesespecially this one

    “TB
    It ainโ€™t much of a blog if :
    (a) the author hogs the posts
    (b) drowns out all participants
    (c) acts like he knows everything
    (d) shoots down contradictory positions
    (e) repeats same similar themes repeatedly
    (such as talking about god god and more god)”


  7. I POSTED THIS VIDEO AS PART OF A SERIES OF VIDEOS ON THIS ISSUE THAT WAS BEING DISCUSSED BETWEEN “ROK” & “CHRIS”…

    FOLKS HAVE TO DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES WHAT THEY BELIEVE!!!

    THE VIDEO IS ALMOST 26 MINS – BUT IT IS WORTH WATCHING BASED ON THE SCIENCE BUT ALSO TO EDUCATE YOURSELF ABOUT WHAT IS OUT THERE IN TERMS OF WHAT IS BEING SAID!!!

    YOU DECIDE!!!


  8. The Origin of Reptiles

    “We find the SAME situatin concerning the origin of reptiles, this is found with amphibians- the ABRUPT APPEARANCE ( fully formed, as Created!) Of each basic type NO transitional forms to provide the expected evolutionary links and reveal the evolutionary pathway leading to each kind.” ( Ibid., p.96).

    Flying Reptiles

    as Carrol states: “…all the Triassic pterosaurs were highly specialized for flight and werer similar to the later rhamphorhncoids in most features. They provide little evidence of their specific ancestry and NO evidence of earlier stages in the origin of flight.” ( Ibid., p.102)

    Again, the VOID in the fossil record, with NO evidence for the evolutionary LIE!

    Marine Reptiles

    “The ABRUPT appearance of marine reptiles in FULLY FORMED state is just as dramatic as was the case with flying reptiles.” (Ibid., p.104)

    “What makes such stories or scenarios so incredible IS* the belief of evolutionists that WHATEVER is needed will be produced by genetic change mutations, which are totaly RANDOM with NO particular end in view. Thus, an ordinary land reptile ventured into the water, abandoning their LIFE on land where they had been remarkably successful supposedly for MILLIONS of years. NOW needed fish-like tails. Obligingly, with NO possible knowledge that such was needed, RANDOM, ACCIDENTAL, mutations altered the incredibly COMPLEX generic apparatus that had produced reptiles in such a way that BEAUTIFULLY DESIGNED*, marvelously functional fish-like tails were produced on a reptile previoysly floundering aakwardly in the water. Likewise, FEET and LEGS were NO longer useful for propulsion in water, and so the VASTLY COMPLEX of genes that CODED for ALL the structures in FEET and LEGS, was somehow, a MUTATION here, a MUTATION there, transformed MIRACULOUSLY into the incredible COMPLEX of genes, required for the TENDONS, BLOOD vessels, nervous system, muscles, bones, and other structures, ALL arranged in a PRECISE way, to constitute paddles, NOW highloy efficient for propulsion WATER. It is evident that, in spite of fervent DENIALS, EVOLUTIONISTS do BELIEVE, even in MIRACLES.” ( Ibid., pp. 104, 105, Emphasis added).

    You see why the Evolutionary Materialists, ARE the BIGGEST JOKERS, of all time!!!


  9. The proponents of STELLAR NUCLEOSYNTHESIS* and the “SCIENCE” surround this EVOLUTIONARY-TYPE* narrative has moved from a BESPOKE* discourse to accepted consensus on the part of many scientists and others…

    This belief in ET (extraterrestrial) life – some see this as an opportunity to reddress the cosmic imbalance cause by man’s PLUNDER* of the planet and the hope is that the “INTERVENTION” of “ALIEN” life form (our primordial cousins) will help to redress this balance…

    Earlier this year, I predicted in my (11) PREDICTIONS* that the “SPACE STATION” could be destroyed… One caller in the above VT cited the same prediction as a possibility due to incoming cosmologies…

    When I write articles for this BLOG* – small-minded FOLKS* who need to “MIGRATE” out of their cocoons do not fully grasp what is going on in the wider world… There are many BLOG* post I would like to have David UPLOAD* but at times I feel it would be pointless – for the mere reason that I choose to put my BELIEF* (theological) system into my “SOCIOLOGY”, “POLITICS”, ECONOMICS”, “HISTORY”, “SCIENCE”, “LAW” & WHATEVER AREA OF DISCOURSE I CHOOSE TO WRITE ON – because folks have this tendency to feel that I have some lurid agenda…

    Anyway, enough said!!!

    CHECK OUT THE NEXT VT>>>


  10. @ kiki

    WE TALK ABOUT THE THINGS, PEOPLE OR WHATEVER WE LOVE, CORRECT?

    YOU LOVE MUSIC IN WHATEVER FORM TO THE POINT WHERE IT IS AN OBSESSION WITH YOU…

    WHY DO I NOT HAVE THE SAME “right” TO LOVE WHO I CHOOSE & TO TALK ABOUT THEM AS MUCH AS I WANT TO WITHOUT REPRISAL?

    DOES “GOD” OFFEND YOU? FOR SURELY, IT COULDN’T BE ME FOR YOU KNOW “nothing” ABOUT ME TO MAKE SUCH A VALUE JUDGMENT???


  11. Once more Zoe, when did your God’s truth say the universe was formed.

    Simple question.

    Should be a very truthful simple answer based on your holy book.


  12. @KIKI

    DOES THE LAST 2 VIDEOS FLOAT YOUR BOAT?

    ROFL….


  13. BTW, “The ichthyosaur, the HIGHLY specialized of any reptiles that EVER existed on earth, extremely fish-like in form, and locomotion, living in the sea and giving birth to yound ALIVE, APPEARED ABRUPTLY, in the fossil record FULLY FORMED*, without a TRACE of ancestors or TRANSITIONAL forms. What we have IS* UNDOUBTED PROOF* of special Creation, if ever such PROOF* is possible. What greater EVIDENCE* for Creation could the rocks provide.” ( Ibid., p. 109 Emphasis added).

    Gliding Reptiles, Snakes, Lizards, Turtles.

    Once again, in all of these highly specialized reptiles, EACH ONE with its own pecular genetic CODE, extremely COMPLEX SPECIFIED INFORMATION (CSI) thereby, logically, concluding, IRREDUCIBLE COMPLEXITY ( IC) i.e., remove any ONE aspect of this CSI, and NOTHING WORKS!!!

    “We see, then, that a careful examination of the fossil record of those highly specialized and UNIQUE creatures among reptiles, flying reptiles, marine reptiles, gliding reptiles, snakes, and turtles- REVEALS a systematic ABSENSE of transitional forms between these highly specialized reptiles, and ALL other reptilian orders. Just when transitional forms are the most needed and where transitional forms would be most easily recognized, they are TOTALLY ABSENT. These FACTS provide powerful, positive EVIDENCE for SPEACIAL CRERATIOIN.” ( Ibid., 114,115, Emphasis added).


  14. TMB:

    I note that you consider yourself as an author.
    Could you post a bibliography and reviews?
    If not, could you in future employ a spellchecker for your plagiaristic cut and pastes.

    Respectfully, St


  15. do you love yourself the most


  16. CHECK OUT THE NEXT [2] VIDEOS….

    BASED ON THE SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH ON THESE SOLAR FLARES – WE COULD BE POSSIBLY HAVING MAJOR EARTHQUAKE, GLOBAL BLACKOUTS LIKE WHAT WE SAW IN CALIFORNIA, ARIZONA & MEXICO….


  17. To Terrence and Zoe:
    Christ in his prophecy concerning the end of the world and Jerusalem did mention the elements going out of their normals paths and functions. He even said that some nations shall be watching the seas with FEAR as each change of tide may bring disaster. He also made specific mention of the sun and the stars. But his predictions do not conform to what ROK is bringing. He is bringing the Mayan predictions which speak to total destruction and the renewing of the earth. This is to happen in the latter months of 2012. Don’t worry about ROK and his fatalistic approach. He is drawing his comfort from the egyptologist’s point of interpretation. They are now discovering the the Roman Church “borrowed” worship forms and procedures from paganism, and they are jumping up and down attempting to attribute this borrowing to ALL pursuers of belief in Christ, the Father and the Holy Spirit.

    Keep up the good work for I realized that most of those on this blog would like to talk and write what they belief but we are supposed to accept without rebutting any thing.


  18. Zoe dearheart:
    My previous question seems to have you stumped.
    But no matter I’ll give you time for a considered response.

    I see you are now addressing ichthyasaurs, the first known lizards with feathers, when were they in Bim? 3-4000AD?
    When did these Jo’burg fossils exist, scientists say 20 million years ago, but you say CAN’T BE* I read it in a book.
    Waiting with unbated breath on your explanation.


  19. Dinosaurs – A Powerful Testomony for Creation!

    On these absolutely amazing creatures, because of their spectacular size and immense weight, up to 80 tons, which are now extinct, the first fossil of a dinosaur was discovered in England over 150 years ago.

    The evolutionists, have, in their usual twisted, convoluted, meandering pseudo-science ways, sought to link these creatures, with other reptiles, in the ABSENCE of any fossil record to support such theories.

    “When considering the credibility of each model of origins, creation and evolution with reference to specific origin of dinosaurs, the most definitive approach is NOT whether or NOT it is possible to IMAGINE a link between some generalized form of a dinosaur and thecodont, BUT, to look for possible eviolutionary TRANSITIONAL forms that would document the evolutionary origin of dinosaurs wit unique structures. If evolution were true, we should easily FIND a series of transitional forms showing these unusual structures gradually coming into BEING. If Creation is true, the dinosaur bearing these unique structures should APPESR all at ONCE, fully FORMED from the start, Creation WINS hands down. In not a SINGLE case can the required transitional forms be found.” ( Ibid., p.119).

    BTW, Halsal, I DO THINK, on my own, with my God given capacity, to study, read, analyze, objectively, rationally, cogently, and logically, and consider the FACTS* and EVIDENCE* that lead me, to honestly, and intellectually, without any fear of contradiction, whatsoever, CONCLUDE, that Evolutionary Materialism, IS* the greatest HOAX* FRAUD* ever presented in the NAME of SCIENCE.

    Halsal, YOU should try, sometime, if you can, to THINK for yourself, honestly, you would be amazed at what you would LEARN, from the FACTS* and EVIDENCE!!!


  20. zoe my darling:
    when are these fossils date. and how does this accord with your supposed Genesis truth?


  21. Zoe sweetie:
    Please answer TRUTHFULLY when was the universe formed?

    Simples.


  22. @Lemuel
    “This is to happen in the latter months of 2012. Donโ€™t worry about ROK and his fatalistic approach. He is drawing his comfort from the egyptologistโ€™s point of interpretation.”

    Comfort? I am not a sadist that will rejoice (like christians) to see the world come to an end. The difference between you and I is that I choose not to believe because belief is a doubt. From my viewpoint, all doubts/beliefs go through the window. I either know or don’t know. I am not entertaining any conjecture by man.


  23. @TMB
    “FOLKS HAVE TO DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES WHAT THEY BELIEVE!!!”

    That is my difficulty with religion and now with you. I assume that this is an admission by you that all you put out there is what you “BELIEVE” and that you have absolutely no scientific or historical evidence to back this up. Yet you want to parade these as facts.

    The statement above is surely an indictment on you and tells me that you are a believer rather than a person bringing facts to the table.

    Incidentally, I refuse to read more than two paragraphs of anything you write and most times none because you are not bringing anything at all to the table besides what you believe and I could do without your fertile imagination as I have one of my own.


  24. The Origin of Man!

    Scientist who study evolution have saddled themselves with the paradoxical job of explaning HOW causes operating throughout nature have in the case of Homo sapiens, produced an effect that IS* RADICALLY unlike anything else in nature.

    “Yes,indeed, man is radically unlike anything else in nature, including apes, and evolutionists, since Darwin, have been very uncomfortably frustrated in their attempts to discover evidence of any animal ancestry for man.”

    “With all the data collected over many years of research by thousands of biologists, paleonthropologists, immunologist, biochemists, and others, why is there NO agreement concerning the pathway of man’s evolution? Precisely because, as they acknowledge, the TREE HAS NO ROOTS. Neither does the TRUNK or BRANCHES. All that exist of the tree are tips of banches.”

    Paleonthropologist Bernard Wood expresses his frustration this way:

    “It is remarkable that the taxonomy and phylogenetic relationship of the earlist known representative of our own genus, Homo, remains obscure. Advances in techniques for absolute dating and reassessment of fossils themselves have rendered untenable a simple UNILINEAL model of human evolution in which Homo habilis succeded the australopithecines and then evolved via H. eretus into H. sapiens- but NO clear alternative consensus has yet emerged.” ( Ibid., 210-212).

    “We can see, then, at the very outset the origin of the entire primate order CANNOT be determined from the fossil record. If primates evolved, there should be a series of TRANSITIONAL FORMS leading BACK to their insectivore ancestors, but NO such transitional forms are found. This IS* exactly what creationists would expect the record to show, and IT* DOES!”

    “There is thus NO EVIDENCE either in the present world, or in the world of the past, to link primates to any other creature. Right at the very start, then, an evolutionary origin of man, IS* INVALIDATED* by the actuial empirical scientific EVIDENCE. The primates, as a group, stand compeletly isolated from ALL* other creatures.” ( Ibid., p. 216, Emphasis added).

    But, ‘What about the evidence in the fossil record for transitional forms leading up to the modern apes- gorills, chimpanzees, orangutans, gibbons
    – and those leading up to man’s putative ape-like ancestors, the australopithecines? They are NOWHERE to be found. Watson states, that:”

    “Modern apes, for instance, seem to have sprung out of NOWHERE. They have NO FOSSIL record. And, the true origin of modern humans- of upright, naked tool making, big-brained beings – is if we are to be honest with ourselves, an equally mysterious matter.”

    “Unfortunately, most evolutionists are not as candid as Watson, but they do conform Watson’s statement. Carroll states:”

    “Unfortunately, there are NO FOSSILS hominoids known in Africa between 4 and 14 million years ago, The African Gorilla and Oan have NO FOSSIL record. Based on anatomical evidence, they might have diverged from the ancestors of humans any time from 5 to 14 million years ago,” (Ibid., pp. 224-225)

    Even the missing links in the sequence of fossil evidence, were a worry to Darwin. He felt sure they would eventually turn up, BUT, they are still MISSING, and will remain so, as evolution IS* a fradulent HOAX, a LIE, BIG TIME TOO!!!


  25. @ ROK

    I do not have to try to persuade, arm-twist, cajole, coerce or brow-beat YOU* or anyone else for that matter on an subject – I LAY THE TABLE & YOU DECIDE WHAT TO TAKE OR LEAVE!!!

    You better than anyone else should understand FREEWILL – I posted a philosophical link earlier (if in DOUBT – GO READ!!!)

    The ‘ole “MAXIM” – “to each his own” is more than applicable here… YOU ARE AN ADULT – AIN’T NO-ONE FORCING NOTHING ON YOU…unless you feel that is the case???

    WHAT ABOUT THAT YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND?


  26. @TMB
    “I do not have to try to persuade, arm-twist, cajole, coerce or brow-beat YOU* or anyone else for that matter on an subject โ€“ I LAY THE TABLE & YOU DECIDE WHAT TO TAKE OR LEAVE!!!”

    Well you fooled me there; you and your partner in crime. The table you lay is corrupted with “less than facts” and if the food is GM, which I don’t care to partake in.

    “You better than anyone else should understand FREEWILL โ€“ I posted a philosophical link earlier (if in DOUBT โ€“ GO READ!!!)”

    I practice exercising free will by the minute and therefore am not waiting on you to write some philosophical, theoretical extract. As I told you, you are not bringing anything to the table except the stretch of your imagination to fit what is suitable to you into your conjecture. I see you ready to take on ELENIN and Nibiru into your prophesy of doom. Yes, Dec. 21st 2012. How come you missed the alternative date of September 25-26 2011? Too close for comfort?


  27. @ ROK

    “I see you ready to take on ELENIN and Nibiru into your prophesy of doom…”

    “WRONG”!!!

    GO BACK TO MY POST @8:56AM AND YOU WILL RECOGNIZE THAT THE VTS WERE SIMPLY TO ELUCIDATE WHAT YOU AND CHRIS HALSALL WERE CITING IN A PREVIOUS POST…

    IF YOU THINK I AM READY TO INTERPRET ANY OF THAT STUFF – YOU ARE MORE OFF-TRACK THAN I WOULD HAVE GIVEN YOU CREDIT FOR…

    SORRY BRUV* – RESOURCES ARE SOMETIMES POSTED FOR INFO PURPOSES “only”….

    ROFL….


  28. Zoe honeypie:
    How old is the universe?
    YOU SEEM RETICENT IN ANSWERING MY SIMPLE QUESTION*?
    You , in your wide research and exegesis must have God’s answer.
    Please share it.
    XXXX


  29. TMB:
    Please link me to any of your original publications, or is everything borrowed?


  30. “YOU LOVE MUSIC IN WHATEVER FORM TO THE POINT WHERE IT IS AN OBSESSION WITH YOUโ€ฆ”

    TB…..What happen to your love of VIDEOS, CUTTING AND PASTING and PREACHING? Aren’t those OBSESSIONS too?


  31. Your are ROFL, why are you not ROFLYAO? That is your best contribution. Unlike you, I post to give people an idea of what is going on and what is being said. I do not post beliefs that I will die for, knowing that they are only beliefs and hence doubts…

    “He is bringing the Mayan predictions which speak to total destruction and the renewing of the earth.”

    You could not be further from the truth. My reference to the Mayans also included the Dogon People the Egyptian and ancient Sumerians. A little more rounded than your one track mind could pick up.

    Another thing. You said, “Christ in his prophecy concerning the end of the world and Jerusalem did mention the elements going out of their normals paths and functions.”

    Where did I mention that elements were “going out of their normal paths and functions”? This is surely a lack of comprehension on your part, because the prediction is that with the lining up of Nibiru, planets will experience upheaval. My comment that there is nothing unusual being reported by those with telescope access, refers to reports that the angle of the rings around Saturn had already tilted.

    You are really not as well read as you think, because according to the Mayans, Egyptians, etc. the coming of Nibiru is a normal event and not abnormal as you think. Your slip is showing. Better stick to beliefs and doubts where you are certainly more comfortable.


  32. ‘Keep up the good work for I realized that most of those on this blog would like to talk and write what they belief but we are supposed to accept without rebutting any thing.’

    Couldn’t this very statement be applied to you and your crew also?


  33. Very well TMB:
    We here, by your non-answer, have now established you are not in any way an original thinker, but merely a regurgitator of other minds.
    As such it indicates to me your docile acceptance of anything biblical is typical of your malleable and unreasoning philosophy.
    Question not, what is forbiidden, in your BOOK*, because “more learned minds” have told you what to think. What a slave you are. Primitive reaction.

    Why a natural communicator chooses such a discredited belief system, on which to hang his hat ,remains a mystery to all but clinical psychiatrists.


  34. To ROK;
    I never said that you talked about the sun and the other heavenly going out of their natural course. This is what was predicted in the BIBLE. When you speak of a planet coming but no one can see it now, I smiled, for even when the moon comes close high tides occur, and if a planet is coming close we will experience its influence in the sea and the sky. I do not know who that love abiding and trusting follower of Christ would want to hasten the end of the earth to see people suffer, certainly not I. You have no proof or evidence that the Mayan predictions are correct, yet you chastise people for presenting their views. The fact is that the calendar ended its projection on Dec, 12 2012 and that has been interpreted to mean the end of this phase of life which will be extinguished “with people dying and suffering mind you” and a new beginning with some elusive number of survivors. Yet you and your gang come here to lecture those who believe in God about the vindictive God whose only intent was to create man to destroy and make him miserable always. But you can have explicit TRUST in a calendar, which was man made, yet you can not accept any man made things as you put it from christian believers. And when that fails then accuse others of being doctrinated by western thought. I agree one may not be as well read as you, for I certainly would not , at this stage in my life, waste precious time reading the six and seven books of moses or the aquarian gospels or any of that occultist literature, which i am sure i was exposed to long before you. Terrence is correct the people of that region and not black skin they are olive skin in color. Yet all of us consider them to black people.


  35. When a serious, subject ‘matter’ is presented on BU, by those of us on the Historic Judeo/Christian Worldview, side of the fence, and we submit, FACTUAL evidence, with sound, rational, reasoning, logically, deduced, from empirical facts, and the distracting SCOFFERS come with ONLY short, non-sensical, unfounded, ‘sentences’ laced IN ad hominem attacks on the writers character, rather than attempt to submit anything meaningful, this most certainly IS* NOT* what a rebuttal, or refutation is all about; this IS* nothing but VOIDLESS, HOT-AIR, as most BU Scoffers are ignorantly apt at doing, intellectually BARREN nonsense!!!


  36. @Zoe… Sigh…

    As usual you misunderstand. Perhaps intentionally.

    Most intelligent people learn by their early thirties (the really intelligent learn much earlier) that those who talk to most usually have the least meaningful to say.

    Or, at least, to listen to.


  37. @All… Sigh, its like Persian Rug… There must be one mistake.

    s/those who talk to most/those who talk the most/

    But the original also, amusingly, is accurate as well….


  38. If the light that be in YOU, IS* DARKNESS, Oh, how great is that DARKNESS!


  39. If any man be IGNORANT, like him be IGNORANT!

    Your choice, man, your choice!


  40. @Zoe: “If the light that be in YOU, IS* DARKNESS, Oh, how great is that DARKNESS!

    You are the ***DARKNESS***, Sir.

    Anyone who tries to suggest that people should not seek knowledge is evil incarnate.


  41. Here we go ahead pitting a position based on faith as fact.

    Why can’t we accept the simple point that religion is predicated on a belief in God which is faithbased?

    It is the right of any individual to believe in their God.


  42. @BU.David: “It is the right of any individual to believe in their God.

    Without question.

    Is it the right of any individual to disbelieve in any other god?

    Absolutely not.


  43. FAITH, + REASON to evaluate the FACTS* of EVIDENCE* rationally, objectively, logically, that abounds ALL around us, cements our TRUST, BELIEF* in His declared Word, that it IS* TRUE!

    So that, a statement IS* TRUE* IS* one that conforms to REALITY, PROOF* that the propositional TRUTH CLAIM* that Almighty God, Created ALL Life forms after its own KIND* (Species) IS overwhelminghly, CONFIRMED by the absolutely amazing FOSSIL RECORD, over and over again, and cannot be refuted by Evolutionists’ fradulent, pseudo-science GIBBERISH, HOGWASH.

    Hear God’s indictment agaist such SCOFFING, wilfully DISHONEST evolutionists et al:

    God Wrath on Unrighteousness.

    “For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven AGAINST* ALL* unrighteousness of MEN ( Atheists, Agnostics, et al) who suppress the TRUTH, (Evidence of His Creation) in unrighteousness, because what may be KNOWN* of God IS* MANIFEST in them, for God has SHOWN IT* to
    them.” ( Rom. 1: 18-19 Emphasis added)

    “FOR since the CREATION* of the world, His invisible ATTRIBUTES are CLEARLY SEEN* being UNDERSTOOD* by the things that ARE MADE* (Created) so that they (Atheists, Agnostics et al) are WITHOUT* EXCUSE.” (v. 20)

    “Because, although they KNEW God, they did NOT gloryfy Him as God, nor were thankful, but became FUTILE* in their thoughts, ( Atheists,
    Agnostics, ET AL) and their FOOLISH* hearts were DARKENED.” (v. 21).

    And, “Professing to be wise (Halsall ET AL) they became FOOLS.” (v. 29)

    NO man/woman is without EXCUSE, our very conscience, intuition, INNER BEING, soul/spirit bears WITNESS, to our Creator, and thousands of years after the FACT of Creation, God allowed through the faculty of our INTELLECTUAL abilities, through Science, that He gave us, to discover so MUCH factual Evidence, from HIS* FOSSIL record, confirming, His Created Order of EVERY KIND, after its own kind, species, Yet, the deceitful and debased Hearts* of many, Evolutionists, Atheist, Agnostics, et al, have WILFULLY choosen to DENY, and reject the TRUTH,

    So, “Professing to be wise, ( In their OWN IGNORANCE!) they became FOOLS.” (v.22)

    Further, “FUTILE in their thoughts…” (v.21b). FUTILE, from the Gk, mataioo, means, “To make EMPTY, VAIN, FOOLISH, USELESS, confused. The word describes the perverted LOGIC, (Halsall et al) and the idolatrous presumption of those who do not honor God or show Him any gratitude for His blessings on humanity.

    Such is the wilfully choosen state and condition, Halsall, and other SCOFFING fools, if you could only understand what your End will be in Eternity of separation, FROM His Love, Mercy, and Grace, that you all have rejected, for YOU ARE WITHOUT EXCUSE!!!


  44. Zoe: Just in case you missed my questions.

    When did ichthyasaurs soar above the earth,and when exactly was CREATION*?

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