As soon as you say anything against the Bible, the ‘christians’ are quick to attack and insult…..such godly gentlemen.
People are not to think outside of ReLIEgion!

On BU, TB, Zoe and newcomer Lemuel has the final authority on the Word, yet still have great differences and divide.
The write has his opinion and thats just it!
Zoe thinks TB belongs to a cult, TB thinks Zoe is wrong. The Sabbath cant be agreed to between these 2 greatly ‘educated’ Bible scholars with all their knowledge and exegesis …..go figure!
Who is the ‘true’ ‘christian’?
Who is right?
They can (should) be only ONE!
Lets solve this ‘little’ issue between these 2 ‘scholars’ before we even start to deal with the new writer and his opinion….shall we…for credibility’s sake.

@ RasKingson

Is is true to say you are the interviewer in the video?

Terence, you adequately described this deranged, deluded FOOL, Aldred, and his utterly incoherent diatribe.

Again, Terence, your well balanced historical FACTS* re Black Christians, IN* African countries, right ON*!!!

As I’ve posted before, Truth IS* the ultimate certitude; regardless of who ever denies this REALITY*, because, truth does not need anyone’s approval or acceptance to be the TRUTH*. Reality IS* synonymous with truth; and truth is unyielding, one can choose to ignore it, scorn it, or even curse it, as stupid Aldred does, but all to NO* avail; in the end Ttuth impassively stands its ground in the face of the most overpowering emotional, verbal, and incoherent onslaughts.

The Historic judeo/christian worldview.

This World view, essentially contains claim about reality which are either true or false.

Therefore, any World view must be subjected to, and must sustain (3) test in order to be considered valid

1) Logical Consistency
2) Empirical adequacy
3) Experiential Relevancy

The only religious World view, across comparative difficulties, premised on warranted credible EVIDENCE* and FACTS* through historicity, that meet and sustain all THREE of these test, IS* the Historic Judeo/Christian World view, that has its Genesis IN* the the Bible, Almighty God’s divinely inspired Word.

Secondly, and intricately connected to the above criteria for validity, every system must also demonstrate and deal with the following questions:

1) Origin
2) Meaning
3) Morality
4) Destiny

Again, the theistic Christian World view, is the ONLY one that convincingly demonstrate and sustain to, the above questions, unparalleled with any other religious, or secular world view.

And, this is just scratching the surface of the Historic Christian World view. The only ancient document, that gives us the Orgin, Meaning, Morality, and ultimate Destiny of mankind, beyond anything that man could EVER have dreamed or imagined, IS* the Bible, Almighty God’s Divinely Inspired Word; which has NEVER* proved to be wrong in any of its over 6,000 predictive/prophetic declarations, throughout the course of history, which IS* replete with its historic veracity.

Coherence IS* found throughout God’s Word, the Bible, from beginning, Genesis, to the end, the Book of Revelation.

So, Mr. Aldred, you do NOT* have a clue about what you, in your
IGNORANCE are attempting to refute and deride, none what so ever.

Further, to the Athiests, and such like other vacumized thinks, Evolutionary materialism is intellectually bankrupt through self-refferential INCOHERENCE, and morally bankrupt as well, through inescapable amorality!!!

The enemy of my enemy is my friend!!

@ TECHIE

Man come with something new cud dear….

You tryin’ the same ‘ole divide and rule TACTICS* you are so quick to critique in your white brothers and sistas…

STOP THE CRAP!!!

ZOE* has never been my FOE* but my brother… Even brothers have strong disagreements but can unite against a common ENEMY – SATAN & his emissaries!!!

If defending the TRUTH* makes us PUBLIC ENEMY NO.1 – then GOOD JOB!!!

Accusatorial behemoths who frankly have precious little to offer in terms of knowledge or even the ability to articulate a position of any strength find themselves brow-beaten into panicked submission because their affront on the “TRUTH” carries no basis in LOGIC*, REASON or even simple commonsense…

Surely, if backed up against a wall of evidentiary TRUTH* – humility is the recommended “WHITE FLAG” you need to fly…

But some FOLKS* don’t know when they’ve lost the battle (the Gadaffi syndrome) but would rather crash and burn everything in sight instead of exercising a modicum of humility when they’ve run out of reasoning and can no longer battle on a specific subject…

Even I know when to say I am beaten (ask my wife)… ROFL!!!

LOL TB…..

Maybe it is you and Zoe who should ‘cut the crap’ and for once agree on the Sabbath!

Divide and rule?
No sir, ReLIEgion has done a very good job of that over time!
If Zoe calls your denomination a cult, what credibility you hope to bring to non believers?
I think it is both of you who are doing the great divide.
Remember I am just a dumb dog asking dumb questions.

@ KIKI

“nobody stops them talking shit about creationism god…”

CALM DOWN DEAR!!!

@ DAVID

OFF TOPIC>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUT INTERESTING FACTS!!!

Who Owns the World -The hidden facts behind landownership

“Queen Elizabeth II the largest landowner on Earth.”

Queen Elizabeth II, head of state of the United Kingdom and of 31 other states and territories, is the legal owner of about 6,600 million acres of land, one sixth of the earth’s non ocean surface.

She is the only person on earth who owns whole countries, and who owns countries that are not her own domestic territory. This land ownership is separate from her role as head of state and is different from other monarchies where no such claim is made – Norway, Belgium, Denmark etc.

The value of her land holding. £17,600,000,000,000 (approx)…

http://www.whoownstheworld.com/about-the-book/largest-landowner/

p.s. IF EVER IN DEEP “kaka” WRITE A LETTER TO THE QUEEN ( as a Commonwealth subject) YOUR VIEWS WILL GET TRACTION – “guaranteed”!!!

tmb:
An honest question.
As a logical thinker; a simple question, why do you believe we should adhere to the precepts of some doubtful bronze age scribblings.

Probably more complex, why do you?

And if Aldred is correct, does the accident of birth control your supernatural beliefs;.

I have this nagging feeling that due to your susceptbility to dogma,that if by accident of birth your hospital was in say Sana’a, we may be hearing from you not from the heart of your beast, London, but gaggingly from beneath a wet towel in Kazakhistan.

Bimbro in his wisdom asked earlier why are people turning away from Christianity. The inability of the Christian church to effectively and credibly communicate the ‘word’ is worthy of debate.

@Micro Mock Engineer

Lord have mercy!

@Micro Mock Engineer

@David

I second that:

Lord have mercy!

LOL

Nice try MME…

Google…..

So wher is “TRUTH” if it cannot be verified or proven. Timothy has clearly laid out an insightful opinion that questions the validity of the BIBLE and it’s true purpose. However insightful as it may be and provocative his words would serve as a catalyst for those who a re true followers of the bible as quoted “Seek and ye shall find.” Knock and it should be open unto you,” and not to forget .It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than a follower to enter the Kingdom.

@Micro Mock Egineer ..Dont get me confused with bible rastas…Rastafari is a LIVITY to me that is not based on the bible. they are many rastas who do not read or acknowledge the bible.

Monsignor Blackett made an insightful statement from the pulpit today. He implored members of his Church to be proactive by coming together. He opined there are too many divisions. BU goes one step further by suggesting there is too much division in the Church, period. In its current state the Church will struggle to show leadership.

Islandchick

We always on the same side, but for the sake of the record, you ain’ a three quarter breed (in favour of White)?

Lemuel……

Can you read or are you just chomping at the bit ?

Some idiot named Will Claye won bronze in the triple jump at the World Championships today and thought that he had the need to dig into his bag, take out a Bible, hold it to a crowd that could not even read the letters on the cover and motion with his hands in a way that could be interpreted as proselytizing … What an embarrassment for Black people …!

Hi BAFBFP:
Would you rather that he had taken a fist of salt out of his pocket; form a circle and send his request to the east. if those of you who believe differently are not comfortable do “your thing ” in the light of day, then something may be very very wrong or odd about that thing you are practicing. Do not dump on the young man let him enjoy his moment.

Now I am an Atheist and even I could spot that wunna non-believers are attacking the wrong person/character/myth. Jesus Christ or his teachings have never been offensive to me, in fact I very much believe the character to be a Socialist like me…! I even enjoy the Christmas season, second only to Crop Over of course. I have absolutely NO problem with my man Yeshua bin Yusuf, I have a problem though with Christians and their stupid belief that the Old Testament should form part of the Christian doctrine… Jackasses …!

lemuel | September 4, 2011 at 9:08 PM |

He should keep his beliefs to himself, or be instructed to do so … It is insulting to his hosts …fullstop.

There ARE* MILLIONS of African brothers and sisters, who IN recent decades, have experienced the absolutly, amazing TRANSFORMING POWER of The Lord Jesus Christ, in their hearts and lives, whose faces BEAM with the Glory of the Only One, who TRANCENDS, culture, class, race, or ethinicty, The Lord of Lords, and King of Kings, The Lord Jesus Christ.

BTW, this amazing reaping of ‘souls’ into the Kingdom of God, through the Anointed Preaching of the Gospel of Christ, IS* occurring in many other countries, E.g., China, Russia, the Middle East, yes, many Muslims are coming to Christ, and being LIBERATED, from the bondage of ‘Dead’ ritualistic, religion, just like many in South America, who are also being SET FREE, from Catholicism, and other paganistic, religious deception.

These are the FACTS, as Truth by definition IS* absolute, so that “TRUTH obtains when REALITY is the way a proposition represents IT* to be.’

The Gospel of Christ, presents a propositional TRUTH CLAIM, and the REALITY of MILLIONS of transformed LIVES across the entire spectrum of human civilization, beginning 2000 years ago, and NOW in this dire, chaotic, MESS that mankind finds himself in, IS* happening at an amazing rate, growing greatly, every day, all over the world.

the man is not an aethesist. his belief is in opposition to a bible which was written by white supremisist whose agenda was to control the black race with a god or godheads who no one can question the proof or validty of. wetherone agrees with his point of view he makes saliant points which makes one think. It would be interesting to know if any among us who are christians would dare venture into this atmosphere or would prefer to pretend that they version of “THE TRUTH” is without question. or simply dismiss it as the end time and people having”itchy ears”.