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Submitted by Gary Cole (with daughter)

Congratulations to David Thompson and the DLP, to usher in this wind of change. I didn’t think it was going to happen, when I left Barbados 7 years ago the BLP firmly had the country in its grip. The vote swung, and I think it is the Internet. Certainly when I see the power of the reporting on the web, I think you are seeing the beginning of a future on-line Barbadian community that is larger mass based.

The issue of corruption, I will talk to you about, and please don’t take any issue fellow campaigners against corruption. It not meant to be an issue, but a strategy. I am all for clarity of thought and action…woolly headed actions don’t impress me at all, and words without the ability to back up and prove yourself are wasted. So I wont waste my words and I don’t want you to waste your actions. There is no way that David is going to be able to come up with legislation to fight corruption in 100 days that is going to work, or do the job of getting to the roots of corruption. Do you want short term gain or do you want long term strategy. I don’t think corruption can ever be handled with a short term strategy, so any idea that this is a short term goal and achievement can easily be countered. Give David more time but secure a vary public pledge to root out corruption. We don’t want more world Bank legislation on our books. If when campaigner’s asked and were interested to find out that the DLP draft proposal on integrity legislation was cut and paste from a World Bank source, it was sign of the political will therein lacking.

Its great on the election platform…corruption – CARSICOT, Glendairy, Deep Water Harbour, Pele, Diplomatic Dope etc but when the elections are over each successive administration has dealt organically with corruption. By that I mean it was just dealt with with how it had to be done, and it just had to be done. So we stand in a situation today that the whole thing is like a pack of cards stacked into houses – the whole thing could just fall with a false move. I think most of you campaigners, if any there be, but I see Mr Loveridge and the effort behind the various blogs, would agree with me so far, but here is where I signal a departure. Intelligence is needed first and foremost in rooting out corruption. By intelligence I mean just that knowledge, sources, reliability, deception, and counter-intelligence. But that’s just one part of intelligence, in fact it is not even the main part of intelligence – the collection of information etc. It is the analysis of intelligence that lies the key. So it is the analysis of corruption, rather than corruption itself that we should be dealing with.

So one person may say when they see the corruption, OH MY GOD!, an analyst, like me may see opportunity. What do I mean by the opportunity for change afforded by the perception of corruption? I mean we must come to analytical terms as to the root and system of corruption in Barbados. If there is no shared analytical framework there is no shared intelligence. Corruption is like chance. But is it? Its not it has design and it has plan. Before these blogs started in the mid 2000s, in the mid 90s, even in the 70s and 80s there were very few people writing and doing investigative journalism…it was confined to journalists (and certainly not every journalists), a lawyer here and there with a conscience, maybe even a calypsonian who did his research. Writing was very controlled…and the Libel laws well – draconian.

But my mother and I, Angela Cole and Gary Cole, together dreamed up this idea of writing a series of books exposing what we called the rottenness of Barbadian society. We used the term for the title Catharsis. Now I am not blowing my own trumpet, but I have to sometimes, like the Attorney General designate, Freundel Stuart, I remember very clearly when I went around selling galley copies of the first book in the series to lawyers ( see limited preview of the book in Googlebooks, just go the Googlebooks and type in Boys in the Band by Angela Cole) how interested he was to know more about the lives of my mother and the issue of Mark Stokes.

And in that book, and the second in the series The Khaki Boys or Who Killed Pele? , written together with my mother, and with the insights of a brilliant John Cheltenham QC, and bouyed on by Harold Hoyte at the Nation, and the son of The last White Attorney General in this island, Rocky Wallcott, and helped by researchers in the archives, in the libraries, in the major newspapers, and with input from historians like Ronnie Hughs, and the Work of Woodville Marshall on early Barbadian free villages, and list goes on to people in the street, who would in every way lend their support if even just in the asking, we clearly concluded a premise summarised by a time-line, but encapsulated in the argument of the first book in the series, on the disappearance of Mark Stokes.

I spent a long time with Cheltenham, during my mothers 8 years case against the government (which she won), debating this point. And I only mention Johnny as he is affectionally called because , he did some of the most high profile murder cases in the Caribbean, with wealthy people, but with motive and desire, and johnny always looked for the human factor, it kept his love of the law. If in 1973, special security started following my mother, that is 38 years ago, and they have collected information from watcher reports, case officers, and for more than 25 years observed her, can we not have access to the reports made, as part of her case, can we not force the disclosure – and johnny knew no – that is something that we as writers would have to do but could you please give him a copy of the book, because this is the place where politics and the law, meet in a dialectic.

So the point is this, we need some dialectical law. First of all if you don’t understand the corruption of the last 38 years, you wont understand the corruption you see today. You will be cutting at the leaves, doing a nice prune job, for spring, but by winter the roots far below would have shot forth new shoots, three and four to each cutting. We have very clear ideas on the table relating to the 1973 silent coup d’etat which lead to the passing of the police order act, and similar legislation giving the prime minister greater control of the civil service, and the Director of Public Prosecution. We have set out that you cant talk about corruption in Barbados without mentioning freemasonry, that you cannot have justice in colridge street, to quote clement payne, the political agitator beaten and killed by police after the 1937 riots, that you cant have justice in a society with police brutality, prison anarchy, and corrupt judges and magistrates. I think we went through every single case that we could find and research. Every single one from 1973 to 2001 and it runs 250 pages on A4.

And its conclusion is that the police, the jails and the judiciary are the guarantors of society, every police beating we allow, every death in custody left unexplained, every prison murder we turn a blind eye to, and the bribery and corruption of the judiciary we ignore we imprison ourselves in a jail not of our making. So the issue I have in this strategy is that Mr Loveridge doesn’t really know that corruption in Barbados is home grown, proud and bred – he might know of Mark Stokes, he might now of Pele, or of the murder of Tom, he may know about Bertram Niles disappeared now 30 years, or Michael Agard murdered in Glendairy, he may know Ryan Jordan brutally beaten by police, or the legion of young men who came up poor and brutalized, but he wont see it like how we see it, as part of ourselves, and might miss the importance of the grass-root at the people level desire for truth. The Government should not start with integrity legislation for the rich and wealthy with lawyers and money, but with a hand out to ordinary people who have been victimized all these years, myself included, but also a lot of poor and sometimes not so poor, and sometimes rich people that have been persecuted over the years as unwilling parties in a corrupt system.

I would start in the begriming with Oliver Jordan, that where Tom started as soon as he came to power in 1976, I kid you not – a former head of Intelligence in the Barbados police force has already said it publicly and to my mother privately. The night before the 1976 elections he received a call from the young and new prime minister to be that he meet him that night and show him all the evidence in the possession of the Barbados police force on the disappearance of Mark Stokes and the murder of Sgt Oliver Jordan. That’s corruption and that’s how it works, and that and much more is explained in our books, but I only give this as an example, that what we need is actions taken to roll back not one BLP government even if it was 12 years, but over a generation.Errol of course didn’t do this when he got back the government in 1980s, because he was there, he knew what happened to Mark Stokes, and Oliver Jordan, and he passed the legislation to protect the country, from an armed coup d’etat. If that is too political I would start with Andrew Farmer, or Michael Agard, and revise the judgement in those cases, and begin to bring a sense of resolve to the families involved, not with convictions and sentences but with a TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE, that if you speak, no conviction, and speak your mind, as any member in the process, and I would certainly speak as a journalist who spent the best part of 4 years researching every known available fact I could find on these cases, that all you had to do was talk, and answer questions, not directed at guilt, but at exorcising the demons of the past, a process of catharsis.

So rather than going after these, you know, big time stories of corruption, you know the kick backs etc, you do people a disservice and dishonour who have been waiting in line for almost a generation, for just the truth.You know look at what happened to Ryan Jordan. Is there no truth for his family. Is it because they didn’t have money? Deal with first grass root corruption – police brutality. That is an easy one to handle first, and it will win you a lot of votes. Just get a pledge from the Commissioner like Durant did to stop police brutality, but the public saw that was lying. A lot of people have been wrongly harassed by the police over the years, and you could gain a lot by even just a pledge. Things are changing.

So before you go off in a trail of corruption that leads to the offshore market, please understand that that is an international affair. It suits a foreigner, who doesn’t know Barbados, and for people who like expose, but it forgets that there are a lot of people waiting in line before you even get to wanting to know how to solve an unregulated financial market. People will ask, not because they are racist, a white man, why doesn’t he go back to Britain and American, there aint got enough corruption there for him to deal with, and of course they have a point, at least Barbados is not going around starting wars, selling arms, bribing leaders, and fomenting the fall of governments, which is a days work for an American President or British Prime Minister. They will say he want to mek his money abroad in all that corruption and then come here and live soaking up our sun and sea, and making money off of it, and talk about us being corrupt, but what about his money.

How do you neutralize this. Deal with working class issues, like the shell refinery issue, that was beautiful, but its got to be more, there are hundreds of those cases out there, the more working class the better, the poorer, the more disposed, the more downtrodden the better in this issue of corruption. Get a pledge from David to help those who are most vulnerable first. Give them a decent hand and that will win you a lot of votes. The so called Big issues, integrity legislation etc, without the dialectical framework and study of Barbadian history, they will just end up being footnotes. You see offshore corruption in Barbados, I see intractable international situation and Barbados in a cess pool of corruption not off its own making, but from the stuff that oozes out of the criminally corrupt international elites.

Nuff Said (but more to come on corruption – in fact these 100 days of anti-corruption.)

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71 responses to “21 Days Of Election, 100 Days Of Anti-corruption”


  1. Gary Cole,
    heard you were in Canada.
    Happy to know you well and continue to be informed.
    Contact us

  2. DLP Manifesto Examined - B F P E Avatar
    DLP Manifesto Examined – B F P E

    Democratic Labour Party Manifesto

    d) Persons who are in Barbados on work
    permits will be deemed non-resident and
    free of all exchange controls, and if
    working for a company registered under
    any of the international business
    legislation, may be paid externally in a
    foreign currency and only their
    remittances to Barbados declared for
    income tax purposes.

    e) Exchange controls will be removed on
    property transactions between nonresidents
    including those who are on work
    permits who should be designated as nonresident
    for exchange control purposes.

    Does this mean that the government will give a legal green light to Guyanese and other immigrants to send money out of the country? Of course, they are already doing it either legally or illegally.

    B F P E


  3. Good to here from you max and maureen. Oh its so good, I just have a bit more grey hairs, greetings to you in Canada. You can email me at tatanka.eu@googlemail.com


  4. I want to take this opportunity to congratulate Mr. Jo… King on your…party’s win. I want to let you…them know I am available to work in Government as I am already registered:)


  5. A long journey begins with a single step. Mr. Thompson has to start working on integrity legislation right away or it will never be done.


  6. Gary

    Seeing you with your little daughter made me realise how times have flown.

    Seems like just yesterday you were a little boy with those glasses and that serious look.

    Keep well my dear – by the way do you get a chance to visit your maternal granny?


  7. Hi Gary, The above gave me goose bumps, especially when it came to Tom.


  8. We have received many emails which asked why are we publishing Gary’s articles. Barbadians must understand that there is a wind of change about to blow across Barbados. It has touched the political landscape and we have a feeling the media will be next. We agree with Bush Tea (regular commenter) about the need to expose the double-standards and inadequacies of our media houses. We have approached several retired journalists to offer perspectives/insights on topical/various issues, but they have elected to go to the great beyond guarding their knowledge as the guard at the gates of the Citadel.

    Gary has brought a freewheeling style to the business of telling a story which we want to be contagious. This year, our focus will be on the Fourth Estate of the Realm. Hopefully members of the BU family will join us in our quest to promote freedom of expression.

    Please Join Us!

  9. Wishing in Vain Avatar

    My advice to the media houses is to make a mad rush to Roebuck Street and collect your money due for all the airtime that the BLP used as their record of NOT PAYING THEIR BILLS AFTER AN ELECTION DEFEAT IS NOT A GOOD ONE, NOW THAT THEY HAVE LOSS THE ELECTION THEY MAY VERY WELL TURN THEIR BACKS ON THEIR DEBTS AS MANY OTHERS KNOW THAT HAVE DONE BUSINESS WITH THEM OVER THE ELECTION PERIOD SOME COMPANIES WERE LEFT WITH $ 550,000.00 UNPAID DEBTS.


  10. Hi all, this is my first time writing in I and I think I now feel that I can properly without fear of being targeted or victimised. Under the previous administration one felt that due care had to be taken about voicing your opinion. I just wanted to put in my two cents pertaining to the need for proper journalism and the need for things to come to the fore in this country. I find that Bajans have a tendency to keep things hidden only a few seem to know about a lot of things and the rest of the population has no clue. There are many people out there who don’t have access to the blogs and are at a disadvantage as they are not informed or knowledgeable about occurences. THIS NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED, and this can only be done by all with the information including the blogs and concerned citizens stepping up their work and getting this critical information out there to the masses.
    I for one will be doing my part from now on to educate those around me as best as I can.

    Baps


  11. It may be true that a lot of people now feel that that the weight of fear no longer exists. That may be so, but let us not go overboard and begin to spew all sort of rubbish and call it free speech. High standards have to be set AND maintained for the growth and development of these websites.
    Watch the regular media houses and see how they respond to the new open government.
    Roger.

  12. Wishing in Vain Avatar

    Yes and we can carry on telephone conversations, internet communication without the fear of having your communications intercepted and listened to.


  13. Gary, I found out about Courteen’s Curse and Sir William Courteen and the Guyanese connection.


  14. I Understand that the saudia arabians were offering to finance a a muslim school in Barbados. After watching a tv documentary about thier beliefs and how they feel about non muslims, women and those they consider to be sub human, I can only hope and pray that no Bajan government would ever consider accepting this offer or they would be selling theirs as well as the people of barbados’ soul to the devil


  15. Mr. Rommel Marshall – outgoing MP for St. Michael West Central should have gotten his re-count.

    http://www.nationnews.com/story/339240420649922.php


  16. If Mr. Marshall’s statements are accurate, the returning officer must be some kind of idiot and Mr. Gollop must lack a backbone. Why should Rommell have to go to the courts to seek a recount? A difference of only 25 votes should be of concern to all and a recount should have been done at his request…..and no, I am not a BLP supporter.

  17. Wishing in Vain Avatar

    Bajans send Owen Arthur Gov’t packing

    RICKEY SINGH, Observer Caribbean correspondent
    Thursday, January 17, 2008

    BRIDGETOWN, Barbados – The newest government of the Caribbean Community (Caricom) was in the process of formation in Barbados yesterday following a landslide 20-10 victory by the Opposition Democratic Labour Party (DLP) for the 30-member House of Assembly.

    The size of the victory, as correctly forecast four days ahead of Tuesday’s vote by the Caribbean Development Research Services (CADRES) poll of political scientist Peter Wickham, confirmed that the ‘time-for-change’ mood of the Barbadian electorate eventually triumphed over the twin pillars of the incumbent Barbados Labour Party’s campaign platform of ‘best leadership’ and ‘outstanding performance record’.

    Prime Minister-designate and DLP leader, David Thompson, a 46-year-old lawyer, was yesterday locked in a lengthy consultation with victorious candidates and other key party strategists prior to his historic journey to Government House to be sworn in as the new head of government of this Caricom state.

    Until yesterday, Prime Minister of this Eastern Caribbean island for the past 14 years was Owen Arthur, a 58-year-old economist and leader of the Barbados Labour Party (BLP) which was unsuccessful in its bid for an unprecedented fourth consecutive term.

    Nine cabinet ministers were among the political casualties of Tuesday’s poll, among them the ministers of health; education, tourism; social transformation; consumer affairs and two ministers of state in the Prime Minister’s Office, one whom was Clyde Mascoll, the former DLP leader who was involved in an unprecedented defection to the BLP two years ago.


  18. “But wait, Thompson is that you?”

    Could it be that the DLP apologists have already begun the campaign of diminishing expectations? Has the specter of bold effective leadership already turned into a full blown retreat? Is “two seat” Thompson destined to become “flip-flop” Thompson? After the incessant choruses on the great intellect of the learned QC, sight unseen, are we now to believe that this legal luminary, the second coming of Sir Conrad Reeves if you please, needs more than 100 days to draft and implement a comprehensive “integrity” legislation package when that was the very foundation of his glorious victory? Utter poppycock, the black people in this country have been duped yet again and will pay a dear price for their folly.


  19. degap
    We the citizens were duped into believing that Owing was an honest person and to have trusted him with our affairs.

    Sadly we have since learnt otherwise and we have taken the necessary actions to correct the mistakes we made.


  20. I guess David is too busy to weigh in on the situation… I want a job hear!


  21. Hi David:

    Gary is correct on the amount of intelligence resources required in order to both prosecute and deter corruption. However, there is another way to obtain the required intelligence with significantly less effort and resources.

    Anti-corruption legislation is effective ONLY if it can be effectively enforced. One can either spend millions of dollars annually to pay persons in a department to search for the intelligence (which they are unlikely to find), or one can provide sufficient incentives for persons to volunteer it.

    Therefore, anti-corruption legislation in Barbados can only be effective if Disclosure Protection legislation, also known as Whistleblower legislation, is also proclaimed. The Disclosure Protection legislation should have the following as a minimum:

    1. A reward of 10% of any bribery money confiscated as a result of reporting a claim of corruption.

    2. A penalty equivalent to the amount of the expected reward for any fraudulent report.

    3. A compensation of 10 years salary to be paid by the employer for unfair dismissal resulting from reporting a legitimate claim.

    I explained this on my blog if you are interested.

    Regards,
    Grenville


  22. Rudy Grant’s campaign workers were told by him to turn up at his office for payment on Wed. 16 Jan. 2008 at 3.00 p. m.

    They turned up at the appointed time but no Rudy Grant in sight and as a result no one was paid.


  23. Congratulations to the BLP on a great win.
    The people have spoken.


  24. PiedPiper // January 17, 2008 at 9:34 am

    If Mr. Marshall’s statements are accurate, the returning officer must be some kind of idiot and Mr. Gollop must lack a backbone. Why should Rommell have to go to the courts to seek a recount? A difference of only 25 votes should be of concern to all and a recount should have been done at his request…..and no, I am not a BLP supporter.
    ==============================

    ……If things occurred as is reported, I concur.


  25. superlative1 // January 17, 2008 at 11:17 am

    I guess David is too busy to weigh in on the situation… I want a job hear!
    =============================

    Wait Superlative George street aint got nuh liberary, and therefore don’ need a liberary assistant. Parliament aint got none either, uh don’t think, so keep your lil pick up on the hill. 😀 but then again when duh send all these BLP consultants packing and de chairmen of the Child care board, Samuel Jackman polythetnic, de place that Henderson Bovil does lime at saying he doing work, and all these government department that have been staff by recipients of the “politics of inclusion” you might get something. If yuh did a policman you might be in for something since we may see Darwin Dotting “retire” 😀

    ……boy so many questions so many place to go over the books to see what has been going on,….are things going to stay the same at the enterprise growth fund?


  26. Anonymous // January 17, 2008 at 12:43 pm

    Rudy Grant’s campaign workers were told by him to turn up at his office for payment on Wed. 16 Jan. 2008 at 3.00 p. m.

    They turned up at the appointed time but no Rudy Grant in sight and as a result no one was paid.
    ==============================

    One day hopefully it will stick in people’s mind that working for, working with, or getting a job from a politician whether temporary or promise long term, is a high risk undertaking akin to most forms of gambling. look at Henderson Bovell who was ready to leave Barbados after the DLP lost in 1994 as he couldn’t make ends meet. He sold his sold to de next nudder political master and now that master is out to pasture he is back where he was in 1994 so much for personal growth. Don’t fool yourself these BLP people have to go, cause people like Leroy McClean looking fuh a pick. 😀 One set of yardfowls out and another set in. 😀


  27. Researching // January 17, 2008 at 11:51 am

    Hi David:

    Gary is correct on the amount of intelligence resources required in order to both prosecute and deter corruption. However, there is another way to obtain the required intelligence with significantly less effort and resources.

    ==============================

    soooooo we shouldn’t attempt too contain it????? The above is a grand statement that is more likely to be the case in Canada, USA, and other first world countries, and i don’t think that such methodologies need to brought wholesale, to bare on what we are trying to investigate and uncover in Barbados. This is a small island, an advantage that can go along way in effecting the results that we are looking for. I would like to hear more on why it would be so difficult to conceptualize a forensic investigative process that can lead to at least ajudication in our courts. We have laws, and if we had a DPP that isn’t corrupt himself, the outdated 1920’s Prevention of corruption act of Barbados would have been enough of a bases in law to convene an investigation into that 75,000 check, Owen Arthur recieved in his name from a Banking institution while being the Minister of Finance.

    ……This is yet another area of Barbados governance and management that person need to avail themselves of the current laws, practices, and traditions before concluding on what can and cannot happen.

    Our system of governance is not difficult to understand, it is a crude implimentation of West Minister as is practice in Australia and Canada, two societies that have extentive publish information of their specific implimenation of West Minister in addition to what applys in it’s original intent and what is practice in the UK.

    Barbados laws, well most of them can be found at http://www.caricomlaw.com and they are not that difficult to read and form a basic understanding of.

    …..I commend person who looks to best practices in first world countries and what effect they can have if applied to Barbados, but at the end of the day these best practices were informed by situations unique to the society which gave birth to them, and therefore one must at all times be cognizant of this and seek to understand the situation though similar but that is nevertheless uniquely Barbadian.


  28. Integrity Legislation and Freedom of Information acts exists throughout the world.

    Trinidad just locked up (and released) a former PM.

    I accept they will need to be changed over time to keep them working and any imprisoned PMs or MPs in prison.

    President Bush just modified the Freedom of information act in America.

    I really can’t understand why it would take an inordinate amount of time to get a draft to Parliament.

    I like the idea about whistle blower legislation too.

    A draft bill (Integrity in Public Life) has been submitted to Parliament as long ago as November 1979 by Tom Adams, and debated. It seems to have died in the committee stage whatever that means.

    It was submitted by the BLP so they are already on record on what they will accept.

    None of this is rocket science and I cannot see any justification for any delay.

    T-99 and counting!!


  29. You know Grenville. i understand your reasoning, but i dont see it as an indigenous
    barbadian solution, in fact i think it is inspired by the IMF one world administration, and
    promotes a culture of efficiency and expediency and ultimately ruthlessness. And as such for me would be an externally imposed solution, not a caribbean solution.. One time i would have agreed with you but i have a deeper understanding.
    There are many premises to the argument. For instance if the courts, themselves have been guilty of this thing we call corruption (i.e cover-up, bribery, freemasonery) why reward them with more power in their hands. No no.
    This thing we call corruption is civilization itself.
    Apply your logic to George Bush, a tyrant, and you see the world will have to lock him up and our friend Tony in Barbados.

    The answer to corruption in Barbados, is the transformation of society, and the workers are the engine of the society, so look to their needs and forget about the issue of corruption.

    This is how i see the problem in a nut shell – the public need an airing and a hearing, like Kenyan. If we achieve just that, giving the public a voice on this issue, on how the perception of corruption is affecting them. Parliment can convene sessions, and a lot energy and dynamism generated by a completely non-criminal approach, if it was conducted as a truth and reconcilliation committee of 50 or so people but no less. And this would be at no cost for lawyers etc. No the lawyers have messed things up so far, lets hear some workers voice. He is not going to be asking for whistle blowing legislation, he is going to be talking about police brutality and drug war corruption, the biasness of judges, and cover-up. And as it relates he will know that is why i have no hospital, they dont care about us. So i dont worry about the intelligensia, and locking them up for white collar crime and money laundering and bribery,(the grease that keeps everything running) they are fine they will get through, and they will come around later, but i am raising the consciousness of the worker, like Errol when he took the government the first time from Grantley and established free education, free health care, school meals, civil reconstrution etc as the difference.
    This is the making of a new open society, I read a lot of CLR James and i feel that nations should be free to choose their own path of development. This is self-determination. This issue is both foreign and local, but i will not join in on the intelligensia lead attack on the foriegn element and have it ignore the local. There are a lot of peoples homes they should be visiting in the housing areas and estates alone, to hear the horror stories.
    Debate some more core working class issues, I’m not even in barbados. The web can only do so much. Work with the politicians and parliment.

    And Sister Baby i didn’t mean anything my great great grandmother lived in the Orinooco, and sailed between St. Vincent to the Orinooco . We missed the horrors of the essiquibbo, but dont let these Barbadians fool you a lot of them went to the essiquibbo looking for gold and fortune after Slavery.

    In my Indian way of seeing things the curse is on both societies, for collaborating in the theft of Barbados from the Indians. Barbados was a gem then too and they lost it.


  30. All of the politicians corrupt wait and see. I agree Adrian and them talking bout creating jobs. When the people of barbados vote them should have study the dlp trend of layoffs and job loss. Blp yard fowls and Dlp ones is the same thing.


  31. Richard Douglin // January 17, 2008 at 1:30 pm

    Congratulations to the BLP on a great win.
    The people have spoken.
    ==============================
    Richard:

    You have your parties mixed up sir.


  32. Thanks Ray; too excited I guess.
    Congrats to the DLP


  33. John // January 17, 2008 at 2:19 pm

    Integrity Legislation and Freedom of Information acts exists throughout the world.

    Trinidad just locked up (and released) a former PM.

    I accept they will need to be changed over time to keep them working and any imprisoned PMs or MPs in prison.

    President Bush just modified the Freedom of information act in America.

    I really can’t understand why it would take an inordinate amount of time to get a draft to Parliament.

    I like the idea about whistle blower legislation too.

    A draft bill (Integrity in Public Life) has been submitted to Parliament as long ago as November 1979 by Tom Adams, and debated. It seems to have died in the committee stage whatever that means.

    It was submitted by the BLP so they are already on record on what they will accept.

    None of this is rocket science and I cannot see any justification for any delay.

    T-99 and counting!!
    ==============================

    hear hear John, Some people just like to needlessly complicate what is needed and necessary . This is all unnecessary intellectualizing what must be implemented in Barbados and for which they are as you have stated many best practices to draw insight and or a framework from.


  34. Sorry ALL for the HUGE mistake.
    IT’S THE DLP


  35. TO Bajan Abroad ……Saudi Arabia does not finance any Muslim School in Barbados…….Bajan Muslims will also not allow it t0 happen


  36. Hi Gary:

    There are very few indigenous solutions anywhere in the world. Nations have always adopted workable ideas from other nations. Let us not squander this opportunity to effectively remedy this (potential) problem of Government corruption by diverting attention to more long term solutions to other problems. Actually, I believe that Owen Arthur stated that he was introducing the anti-corruption legislation to address, inter alia, corrupt behaviour in the private sector.

    In solving complicated problems, it is prudent to first address the ones that can be solved relatively quickly with the least amount of resources, and then tackle those that require much more resources and time. Copying existing integrity and whistleblower legislation and making the necessary amendments to make them easily enforceable in Barbados requires the least amount of effort and time.

    Regards,
    Grenville


  37. Hi Gary:

    There are very few indigenous solutions anywhere in the world. Nations have always adopted workable ideas from other nations. Let us not squander this opportunity to effectively remedy this (potential) problem of Government corruption by diverting attention to more long term solutions to other problems. Actually, I believe that Owen Arthur stated that he was introducing the anti-corruption legislation to address, inter alia, corrupt behaviour in the private sector.

    ==============================
    Researching, the idea of Owen introducing anti-corruption legislation to address corruption in the private sector should’ve been #2 on his to do list as far as corruption goes. #1 should’ve been for his cabinet. I sincerely hope the political pundits will call this election for what it is – a stance against corruption. It is important to implement policies to govern conduct in societies like ours. Talk is cheap — people want to see action, not lip service. DLP be aware!


  38. If you get the MPs to tie off themselves by relentlessly pressuring them to pass the legislation, the scales will suddenly be lifted from their eyes and all the corruption in the judiciary, police, civil service, private sector etc. etc. will suddenly become clear to them.

    They have the power to deal with it.

    They aren’t going to like being the only ones who are answerable and will fall over themselves to prevent others from benefiting without them. In so doing they will become our allies!!

    Solve the pollution problem at the head of the stream. Then work on the tributaries one by one till the output of the stream is as clear and sparkling as possible ….. and fit for human consumption.


  39. You guys seem to be aiming for a Utopia, and seem to to forget the concept of the second law of thermodynamics which teaches clearly that things tend to disorder.

    We are not dealing here with salmon who have a great determination to “swim upstram.”


  40. Superlative1 you are right that it has been a busy period for the BU household. We live by the philosophy of fighting for what we believe in so we have been very busy in recent weeks. My advice to you is that if you aspire to be a political appointee then Cave Hill has failed you ;-).


  41. David
    Are you suggesting that a UWI graduate should not have a strong desire to work in the Public Service? Clarify

    Georgie Porgie

    How have you made the quantum leap from being a political appointee to that of civil servant?

    David

  42. Middle east bajan Avatar
    Middle east bajan

    I don’t agree that Rommell should get a recount, if the shoe was on the other foot, the BLP would not have been so willing to allow a recount.

    I am very happy that the DLP won. I once supported the BLP but I got very fed up with all their greed and corruption.

    I am particularly happy for Chris Sinckler. He is a produce of the Garrison Secondary. It shows that students (or former students) from the new secondary schools have a lot of potential and are just as intelligent and capable. OFten we think that only graduates of Harrison or Queens and such older secondary are intelligent and capable.

    As a product of a newer secondary I have been able to accomplish alot academically (Phd) and professional (a VP for a global corporation). Something that in Barbados I would have been allowed or given the opportunity. In fact I came up against such social prejudice when I worked in the civil service.

    Congrats Chris, you made us newer secondary (comprehensive) school graduates proud.


  43. Georgie Porgie // January 17, 2008 at 6:27 pm

    You guys seem to be aiming for a Utopia, and seem to to forget the concept of the second law of thermodynamics which teaches clearly that things tend to disorder.

    We are not dealing here with salmon who have a great determination to “swim upstram.”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I was thinking about the law of gravity and trying to improve what appeared at the bottom of the hill by fixing from the top down!!

    Just a thought, …. maybe the law of gravity contradict the second law of thermodynamics, and in the case of a hill supercedes it!!

    Here’s hoping.

  44. Donald Duck, Esq Avatar
    Donald Duck, Esq

    Dont forget that in the first 100 days of a dlp administration to introduce the Agriculture Protection Act that will require a 2/3 majority of both houses of parliament for a change of use of land from agriculture.

    Will the proposed Freedom of information act allow us to know how many approvals get issued within the first 100days


  45. Just checking.
    Is our new Prime Minister keeping to close to Hartley Henry. My observation is based on three clear issues.
    No:1 – Mr Thompson gave credit specially to Hartley at his St. John election centre.
    No:2 – He again gave massive credit to Hartley at the DLP headquarters’ Press Conference, whilst forgetting the role of Brandfort Taitt.
    No:3 – The first person to greet him inside Government Headquarters was Hartley.

    Please Mr. Prime Minister, the election has been won, the people are happy. You should be embracing election candidates especially your parliamentary team. Everyone will be looking at our new Prime Minister, not a Prime Minister with a different shawdow.


  46. Everyone will be looking at our new Prime Minister, not a Prime Minister with a different shadow.


  47. David
    Are you suggesting that a UWI graduate should not have a strong desire to work in the Public Service? Clarify
    Georgie Porgie
    How have you made the quantum leap from being a political appointee to that of civil servant?

    My point is that some folk who work in the Public Service (civil servants?) are appointed for life, others work under contract, (e.g the polyclinic doctors and hospital doctors) and can be fired simply by not renewing their contract for what ever reason. And then there are those who are political appointees as you call then. Of course we must not leave out those who are elected by the populace from time to time. Perhaps everyone who is paid by the Public purse are not all civil servants, or are they?


  48. JOhn

    I was thinking about the law of gravity and trying to improve what appeared at the bottom of the hill by fixing from the top down!!

    Just a thought, …. maybe the law of gravity contradict the second law of thermodynamics, and in the case of a hill supercedes it!! Here’s hoping.
    ============================

    I am sure that you mean well. But nothing seems to ever contradict or supoercede the second law of thermodynamics. Furthermore, it is written that the heart is deceitful and desperately wicked, who can know it? I am sure that you have witnessed over and over that this is most often true, rather than not. But we can hope since it is said that hope springs eternal in the human breast.


  49. Georgie Porgie

    We understand your point. We were referring to the trusted practice of yardfowlism which has been practiced by both parties over the years when they attain government by rewarding party hacks with those contract jobs which the BLP took to another level.


  50. Where is the entropy in water flowing down a hill?

    It certainly isn’t going to flow up the hill!

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