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The following article was submitted by Niel Harper, a Barbadian professional making his mark in the international arena. See his website Niel HarperBlogmaster

Earlier this week, news broke that a questionnaire ‘sanctioned’ by the Ministry of Education (“MoE”) and overseen by the Inter-American Development Bank (“IDB”), was administered to mostly 11 year old children in Barbados. It has also come to light that a similar project was undertaken in Jamaica and Belize.

Ramona Archer-Bradshaw (l) Chief Education Officer Kay McConney (r), Minister of Education (r)

Misleadingly labelled as a “Computer Science Diagnostic Pre-Test”, it included questions on “social and emotional health” that were of a very sensitive nature. Below is a sampling of the more than 150 psycho-social questions:

  • I drink alcohol without parents’ approval.
  • I deliberately try to hurt or kill myself.
  • I hear sounds or voices that other people think aren’t there.
  • I am overweight.
  • I physically attack people.
  • I steal from home.
  • I steal from places other than home.
  • I think about killing myself.
  • I think about sex too much.
  • I wish I were of the opposite sex.
  • I use drugs for non-medical purposes.
  • I see things that other people think aren’t there.
  • Physical problems without known medical cause:
    • Aches of pains (not stomach or headache)
    • Headaches
    • Nausea, feels sick
    • Problems with eyes (not if corrected by glasses)
    • Rashes or other skin problems
    • Stomach aches
    • Vomiting, throwing up
    • Other

The questionnaire was delivered using a paper form and required that students provide personal information such as their name, sex, and ethnicity. Also included were detailed questions about the education level and work status of parents (e.g., type of job, unemployed, homemaker, etc.).

There was swift and comprehensive social commentary accompanied by widespread public condemnation of the decision to administer this questionnaire. The political public relations machinery quickly sprung into action to contain the damage to the public perceptions of the current Barbados Labour Party (BLP) administration. The IDB immediately took responsibility for the melee, trying in vain to absolve the Ministry of Education of any wrongdoing. The Chief Education Officer, Deputy Chief Education Officer, Permanent Secretary, and the Director of Education Reform all embarked on a public apology tour. The Prime Minister set about with her usual articulate flare and penchant for press conferences to assure the masses that she was deeply outraged (while praising the IDB for their prompt action in shifting the blame from her government). However, it must be noted that the Minister of Education has been conspicuously silent amidst this public relations storm.

But now to the main reason behind this author’s musings…

So far, the public discourse around this fiasco has centered on the incompetence of the Ministry of Education staff, the arrogance of the IDB, the inappropriateness of the questions, and the mental stress inflicted on the children. What has been glaringly missing are the legal elements. So let me break it down.

  • The subject questionnaire is for all intents and purposes scientific research. Questionnaires are popular in academic research for quick and easy collection of large amounts of data for analysis of subject behavior, preferences, intentions, attitudes, and opinions.
  • To meet ethical and legal standards, and to protect the rights of data subjects, informed consent is an important legal basis for data processing as required by the Data Protection Act (Barbados), General Data Protection Regulations (European Union), Data Protection Act (United Kingdom), Personal Information Protection and Electronics Data Act (Canada), and other privacy and data protection laws across the world.
  • As per the Barbados Data Protection Act (“the Act”) and similar laws around the world, there are six lawful grounds on which data can be processed: explicit consentcontractual obligationslegal obligationsvital interests of the data subjects, public interests, or for purposes of legitimate interests of the data controller. The only lawful basis which the MoE can use for administering the subject questionnaire is legitimate interests. However, that lawful basis does not pass the three-part test which requires a positive answer to these three (3) questions: Is there a legitimate interest behind the processing? Is the processing necessary for that purpose? Is the legitimate interest overridden by the data subject’s interests, rights, or freedoms?
  • As per the definitions in the Act (and the other aforementioned laws), the students whose personal data have been collected are data subjects.
  • As per the definitions in the Act, the Government of Barbados is the data controller who determines the purposes for which and the means by which personal data is processed. The Inter-American Development Bank (IDB) is the data processor who processes personal data only on behalf of the data controller.
  • As per the definitions in the Act, a ‘child’ is a person under the age of 18.
  • As per the Act Part II 8(1-2), “The processing of a child’s personal data shall be lawful only where and to the extent that consent is given or authorised by the parent or guardian of the child” and “The data controller shall make reasonable efforts to verify in such cases that consent is given or authorised by the parent or guardian of a child, taking into consideration available technology.” From all accounts, neither the MoE nor the IDB obtained consent from parents to collect this personal data from children. This is a violation of the law.
  • As per the Act Part II 9(1-4), the data collected is personal sensitive data, which requires greater safeguards to protect the rights of the data subjects. Sensitive data includes data on ethnicity, health, and sexual orientation or sexual life. Collection of this type of personal data requires strong security and consent is required to share with third parties. From all accounts, the data controller (MoE) did not obtain consent from parents to share this sensitive personal data with a third party. This is a violation of the law.
  • As per the Act Part IV 58(1-10), the MoE (data controller) is required to have a Data Protection Agreement in place with the IDB (data processor) to ensure that the rights of the individual are being protected and that legal compliance with the Act is achieved. The public deserves to know whether a Data Protection Agreement exists between the two entities and to examine if it is fit for purpose.
  • As per the Act Part IV 55(1-6), the IDB must be registered as a data processor, pay a fee, be in possession of a certificate to conduct data processing activities, and nominate a representative who is resident in Barbados. Failing to do any of these things makes their representative liable for a “fine of $10,000 or to a term of imprisonment of 2 months or to both.” Is the IDB compliant with the law in this area? The government should present the general public with evidence to verify this compliance.
  • As per the Act Part IV 59(1-2), it is stated that “The data processor and any person acting under the authority of the data controller or of the data processor, who has access to personal data, shall not process those data except on instructions from the data controller, unless required to do so by any enactment” and “A person who contravenes subsection (1) is guilty of an offence and is liable on summary conviction to a fine of $500,000 or to a term of imprisonment of 3 years or to both.” In their public statement, the IDB asserts that their administering of the questionnaire was against the objections of the MoE. This is a violation of the law.
  • The Act Part IV 62 (1-3) requires that data processing of this sensitivity and high risk be conducted using online tools. Moreover, it states that the data is pseudonymized (not contain information that could identify a living person), which means that the names of individuals should not have been required on the document. Finally, it demands that strong security protections be in place to protect against unauthorized access. Given that the questionnaire was administered by paper, it is virtually impossible to guarantee that this very sensitive personal data on children was adequately protected from unauthorized access, misuse, and abuse. Moreover, it also attributed the sensitive and potentially harmful information to living, identifiable children and their parents. This is a violation of the law.
  • The Act Part IV 67(1-7) and 68(1-6) requires that both the data controller (MoE) and the data processor (IDB) designate an individual as a data privacy officer to advise them on the legal, technical, and administrative elements of processing personal data. A data privacy officer should be an individual qualified in privacy law and compliance. To the best of my knowledge, neither organization is compliant with this legal requirement with regards to data processing in Barbados. Given the number of violations of the law, this is not surprising.
  • One of the most alarming things about this matter is the eerie silence of the Data Protection Commissioner.As per the Act Part VII 70(1) and 71, the Data Protection Commissioner is “responsible for the general administration of this Act” and whose functions are to monitor and enforce the Act (including issue fines), organize activities to educate children (and parents) on the risks of processing their data, and monitor and audit data processing by data controllers and data processors, among other things. The individual in this role was equally silent during the February 2022 elections when the government leaked the entire voters’ list on the public Internet, which has, based on my discussions with officials at financial institutions in Barbados, resulted in several citizens being victims of fraud and identity theft. This seriously brings into the question the qualifications, capabilities, and independence of the Commissioner, and the ability of the individual to effectively serve in this important role.
  • As data protection laws are generally extraterritorial, the MoE and IDB have more than likely violated the General Data Protection Regulations (European Union) and other privacy/data protection laws from across the world. For example, there are many expats living in Barbados, and if European Union citizens were required to take the questionnaire, then that is a clear violation of EU laws. This also applies to citizens from other countries where robust data protection laws have been enacted.
  • There are numerous other areas of the Act that the MoE and IDB violate in their relationship (e.g., consultation with the Data Protection Commissioner, performing data protection impact assessments, records of data processing activities, etc.). Sadly, this is just the tip of the iceberg. There are several public agencies, educational institutions, financial organizations (including fintechs), retail companies, telecoms operators, and other businesses in Barbados who are in clear violation of privacy and data protection laws.

The “right to private life” is enshrined in the Constitution of Barbados and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR). The rights of data subjects (including children) are legally protected by the Data Protection Act (Barbados). The Government of Barbados, its development partners, and private corporations need to do so much better as it pertains to upholding the rights of citizens. I shudder to think of what similar privacy rights abuses are happening in other Caribbean countries and across the broader developing world.


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343 responses to “The Ministry of Education-IDB Questionnaire Fiasco: The Legal and Human Rights (Privacy) Angle”


  1. @Donna

    Do we have to speculate? We know of the behavioral profiling being projected on the world. Note the ‘offensive’ questions are being processed in the developed world as well.


  2. TheO,

    Quite true. It proves nothing. But it suggests plenty.

    You have your spider sense. I have mine. A diabolical plan should be more diabolical. This was the usual heavy-handed arrogance of the white man who saw no reason to adjust his plan to accommodate our “primitive” culture. And the trusting mental slave attitude of the black MoE officials who took the white man’s word.

    After all, isn’t the white man always honorable to those who consider him superior?

    Alas! The brainwashing is very powerful. It makes the brain perceive what the eyes never saw.

    Remember Verona Michaels who believed without thinking that were it not for the white man’s intervention, you and I would be eating each other! Never even crossed her mind that the black man could have evolved as surely as the white man emerged from his cave without intervention. The thought never crossed her mind. Just as it never crossed Lawson’s mind.

    Remarkable in 2022…. and yet not so remarkable!


  3. @NorthernObserver October 12, 2022 2:48 PM “And shouldn’t each one of these countries be interested in securing their own economic interest, first and foremost.”

    Granted. But I often state the obvious, because the obvious needs to be stated.

    The good thing about growing up on a farm is that one is not sheltered from the fact of life. If I want to slaughter a fowl cock or a hnt. I throw out some scratch grain [like the IADB] throws out a little money] and when the fowlcock shows up to eat the little scratch grain I cut his head off.I’ve done this hundreds of times.

    Also for all of the sex that children are exposed to as their foolish parents watch porn or copulate within sight or hearing of the children, we farm girls had seen hundreds of acts of copulation long before we reached puberty. Cows, sheep, donkeys, horses, fowls, lizards, monkeys, The birds do it. The bees do it. Even the humble earthworms do it.

    I don’t understand why people think that we must teach li’l children which part goes where. If an earthworm can figure that out, do we really think that homo sapiens needs copulation lessons?

    Stupssseee!!!!

    Someone was asking if Sex Ed is on the school curriculum in Barbados. Today I checked the timetable of a 1st former and I saw one 40 minute period each of Health and Family life Education, the same for Civics and for Religious Education.

    No human being needs lessons to figure out what goes where, but we do need to teach our children about sexually transmitted diseases, the difficulties of unintended pregnancies, whether the pregnancy ends in birth or abortion. We need to teach them to be wise enough to avoid dishonest or violent partners, we need to teach them that a drug abuser, an alcoholic, or a gambler is unlikely to be an excellent spouse or parent, However all of thee lessons need not be taught at 11 years old. But by 16 certainly they should understand these things, some of which should be taught by parents.


  4. @de pedantic Dribbler October 12, 2022 3:40 PM “But is this a male failing or some such … women in leadership hardly get accuse of doing this.”

    Let farm girls answer this for you.

    I have NEVER EVER seen a hen chasing a rooster. NEVER.

  5. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @Mr Blogmaster, but we can only deeply speculate.

    Although “we know of the behavioral profiling being projected on the world” it’s still very alarming that in our small community that one of our own born and bred (I can only presume) well trained, intelligent CEOs would submit her integrity to this level of abject unprofessional behavior to demean and dis-respect the teachers, staff and most importantly the children and their parents so crudely.

    This is grave ethical and legal malpractice. And the more they talk the greater the insult to reason and honesty.

    @Donna, that’s unfortunate. And yes I know quite well that your “tales from teachers would boggle the mind”. However, it appears that some of the more ‘vociferous’ bloggers here need to get their ‘brains boggled’.

    I still get a rather frequent dose of it from a few dear colleagues still in the service and some are deep in the ‘malaise’ at schools way outside the QC, Kolig, St. Michael’s . Not saying they are not sources of problems too as my reporting also covers them but some issues at other places are quite distressing.

    But as you said you may not want to rehash some of that ‘education’. Understood.

  6. William Skinner Avatar

    @ DPD
    “Although “we know of the behavioral profiling being projected on the world” it’s still very alarming that in our small community that one of our own born and bred (I can only presume) well trained, intelligent CEOs would submit her integrity to this level of abject unprofessional behavior to demean and dis-respect the teachers, staff and most importantly the children and their parents so crudely.”
    Extend that brilliant statement to our educational system, where we are still taught not to think critically but by rote. A system that outside of the abolition of fees for grammar schools in 1962,has not undergone any real change.
    The CEO is a product of that system and perhaps this embarrassing spectacle clearly shows that even with PhDs, we still have a lot of work to do.
    That’s why I mentioned your intellectual honesty earlier.
    One of the great attributes of intellectual honesty is that it breeds respect for various opinions. Refreshing to read such a post.
    Well said!
    More to come
    Peace.


  7. Mind Playing Tricks on Me / Geto Boys

    This year halloween fell on a weekend
    Me and geto boyz are trick-or-treating
    Robbing little kids for bags
    Till an old man got behind our ass
    So we speeded up the pace
    Took a look back and he was right before our face
    He’d be in for a squab’ no doubt
    So I swung and hit the nigga in his mouth

    He was going down, we figured
    But this was no ordinary nigga
    He stood about six or seven feet
    Now, that’s the nigga I’d been seeing in my sleep
    So we triple-teamed on him
    Dropping them motherfuckin b’s on him
    The more I swung the more blood flew
    Then he disappeared and my boys disappeared, too
    Then I felt just like a fiend
    It wasn’t even close to halloween

    It was dark as fuck on the streets
    My hands were all bloody from punching on the concrete
    God damn, homie
    My mind is playing tricks on me

    Geto Boys- Mind Playin Tricks On Me (Chopped & Slowed By DJ Tramaine713)

    Geto Boys – My Mind Playing Tricks On Me


  8. It’s fucked up when your mind is playing tricks on you


  9. Hung Up on My Baby, Isaac Hayes, Mind Playing Tricks On Me, Geto Boys


  10. Based on the length of our attention span (stated as 9 days) we are well past the half-life of this story; in fact, we are in the terminal phase.

    We have been outspoken in our comments and clearly stated our objections to the process, to the questionnaire and to the ’empty suits’ at the ministry of education.

    What did the Min of Ed do? It was slow to respond, then uttered a ‘standard’ apology and has now retreated to the bunker.

    It must now be accepted that GoRoB officials believe that if they stay silent long enough, the voice and interest of the people will disappear.

    When a government believes that it does not have to inform parents, it does not have to seek their approval to interrogate their children, it does not have to explain their objectives to the people, that just ‘we are sorry’ is a full explanation and that remaining silent is the same as providing an answer, then we know our country and our children are in deep trouble.

    To fight crime, we in the US often use the slogan ‘if you see something, say something’. To our criminals, whoever they are, we say ‘if you do something, for God sake, then say something’.

    Have a great day y’all.


  11. Ironically a survey which touched on mental health issues was judged to be a cause of possible mental health issues

    Yes, Yes, Y’all

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZzpx_Dw7D8

    Well this is Chuck Dawg

    (will you ever love another bitch?)
    Fuck nah!

    (What’s your position on a snitch homey?)
    Fuck laws!

    (They say the Beatles was the biggest)
    Nigga fuck Paul, and the rest of y’all! I’m the little motherfucker with the big dick swangin Nuts still hangin, got hoes singin the blues Geto Boys in this bitch still bangin And ain’t shit changin (uh-uh) ain’t shit changin Don’t like faggots, hate politicians Can’t stand snitches, know the Feds listen So I, send the whole world a fuck you note Schumaker’s got a desk job, fuck you ho! (Aww nah!)

  12. Seeking a whistleblower Avatar
    Seeking a whistleblower

    History Lesson (to keep you alert)
    Long gone are the days when things fell off a truck. And yet, this is a time where the country has an urgent need from whistleblowers as we are saddled with an administration that is a law unto itself. They do as they like and when they like.

    Do you recall when the GoB (now Known as GoRoB) created a new Ministry of Vaccines and appointed Maloney as Minister in Charge?
    Do you recall the exorbitant price paid for a slight modification of an already existing slogan?
    And what about the consultants who were responsible for this debacle of a test? Do you know how many consultants were involved? Do you know if they were paid and the source of the funds to pay them?

    How did we get this information? Did a GoRoB official come to the microphone and explain anything to you?
    You hear the rumor first, and it is labeled as a conspiracy theory and when the truth finally comes out you get a lame excuse that is immediately forgettable. I was reliably informed that there is a shortage of microphone, cameras and possible interviewees in some government offices. That explains it.

    It must be a tough life being an apologist. When you think an issue is past its shelf-life and you are about to start to breathing freely, then a next set of bad news hit the fan. You don’t want to fall for ‘conspiracy theories” but along comes the vaccine scam followed by another scam. The best you can do is tell yourself “they are not ALL crooked.

    Once they get into office, they see the government checkbook as their own piggy bank. Friends and friends of friends are invited and the people are left out in the cold.

    Now you have to wonder? Why have things stopped falling off a truck? Were those who found it necessary to point out the failings of the last administration (and it was a woeful administration by Barbados standards, therefore dreadful by any standards — Lorenzo, enuff, J2.. did you see that last phrase), were those who threw document off of the truck whistleblowers patriots or just party hacks? Are there no more trucks on the island?
    I have my opinion.


  13. The 0 (aka seeking a whistleblower in disguise)

    Don’t give up your day job

    Don’t you know
    that’s it’s true
    that for me
    and for you

    The World Is a Ghetto
    Screwed and Chopped a Lot

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seK1HZcWlUY


  14. “No human being needs lessons to figure out what goes where, but we do need to teach our children about sexually transmitted diseases, the difficulties of unintended pregnancies, whether the pregnancy ends in birth or abortion. We need to teach them to be wise enough to avoid dishonest or violent partners, we need to teach them that a drug abuser, an alcoholic, or a gambler is unlikely to be an excellent spouse or parent, However all of thee lessons need not be taught at 11 years old. But by 16 certainly they should understand these things, some of which should be taught by parents.”

    Cuhdear often gets caught up in the battle of man vs woman, but at times she hits a note that is a musical delight.

    Yes! Damn you! Yes!

    Government must not usurp or attempt to replace the role of the parent. Do you know that those who are here touting that children should learn these things in a school setting would be apoplectic if someone try to give their children the same information? Their cry “My child has parents. Let me vet what you are going to teach my child”.

    I continue to wonder…
    What is it about these children that some feel the should be tricked and lied to?
    What is it about their parents that some felt that parental permission was not necessary?
    What was it that the parents should not see?
    What is it about the questionnaire that teachers and principal could not see the actual questionnaire?
    Why couldn’t teachers be in the classroom?
    Have we seen the (real) questionnaire? The one that was given? Or have we be given a more palatable version?
    What message did these interlopers to the classroom deliver before administering the questionnaire

    We are almost at “Day 9” but not one of these question has been (truthfully) answered. We heard the apology, but we do not know what the apology was for. There is more here than we are being told.

    I resist entering the realm of conspiracy theory, but a conspiracy is the only thing that fits the data. The “truth” given to us cannot withstand close scrutiny. And when the ‘truth’ wilts under close examination then you know “their truth” is a lie.


  15. @555
    I think you have a man crush on me.
    Abandon the idea
    Take your questionnaire/test 🙂


  16. I think Bajans are not half as smart as they think they are
    I have got proof
    you are not sharp at all
    dull as a bitch

    The World Is A Ghetto · War


  17. Did you know we have our first Commissioner of Data Protection … Lisa Greaves … and she even has a spokesman, … ooops, sorry, …. spokesperson?

    She is going to fully investigate the matter and tell the GOB if the IDB has breached the

    “The Data Protection Commissioner, a post which Greaves took up on July 15, 2021 as the first such appointee, is responsible for the general administration of the Data Protection Act as the primary regulatory authority for data protection in Barbados.”

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2022/10/13/privacy-breach/

    The Dean of the Faculty of Law of the UWI has also stepped in to fill the breach as the GOB investigates itself and the IDB!!.

    “Dean of the Faculty of Law at the Cave Hill Campus of the University of the West Indies, Professor Eddy Ventose told Barbados TODAY that “the mere possession by the Government of information that might be confidential or private does not of itself suggest any breach of the constitutional right to privacy”.

    “The Government, through its various departments, including the Queen Elizabeth Hospital, possesses confidential information on many persons. It cannot and could not be suggested that that alone means that there exists a constitutional breach,” he said.

    “In this context, any breach of a constitutional right to privacy can only be engaged if there is the disclosure by the Government of that confidential and private information of persons. The information gathered in the questionnaires is confidential and private information of students. Only if that information is used in a way that discloses the identity of the students would a constitutional infringement be arguable.”

    The constitutional expert said while there could be queries about the justification for students having to identify themselves in the survey, that was not a constitutional argument. Questions relating to the propriety of certain questions posed on the questionnaire are similarly not constitutional questions,” the law professor argued.”


  18. State moves to get election appeal thrown out

    https://imgur.com/zKMC9Xw


  19. Here is our new Commissioner of Data Protection

  20. African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved Avatar
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    William….ya will still get the apologists talking SHITE….oh it’s happening everywhere…..yes it is….but parents don’t plan to sit on their ASSES AND LET IT…so they can regurgitate that ignorant comment…

    there is a video circulating, from yesterday, don’t know if you seen it yet, where this member of parliament, not sure if it’s in UK or Scotland….literally nearly had a stroke on the floor reading from his phone what they have started doing to 10 YEAR OLDS in the schools…

    so they can continue giving their immoral , unethical run down and blow-by-blow about what happens where while Barbados and the region’s children are DESTROYED RIGHT IN FRONT THEIR FACES…….


  21. @ WURA
    I said that eventually we would start to blame everybody. The spin doctors , political Lilliputians , wimps and partisans have taken over.
    That’s how a democracy works.
    More to come
    Peace.

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    btw…all of this is starting to KICK OFF in Barbados and the Caribbean because these WEAK, corrupt NEGROS and their equally backward supporters, can’t live without a massa or a slave system…

    they were warned REPEATEDLY that their slave mentality and DEPENDENCY will run them into trouble…

    say hello to TROUBLE…

  23. African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved Avatar
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    “I said that eventually we would start to blame everybody. The spin doctors , political Lilliputians , wimps and partisans”

    that’s all they are capable of…a bunch of yellow bellied cowards who only have big mout for each other….but don’t have the balls to protect the island or regions’ children….that is now left to the WOMEN and the men WHO ARE REAL MEN…

    the shitehound slaves strike again…

  24. NorthernObserver Avatar

    @John 9.02
    In one article they refer to Queen’s Counsel and in the next it is King’s Counsel.
    Do lawyers thusly anointed now get to choose if they are QC or KC?

  25. NorthernObserver Avatar

    @John 9.02
    In the bottom article I see someone identified as the acting PS in MoH. In the Radical court filings in Fla, the letter giving Radical authority was signed by a PS, Janet Phillips. How many PS or acting PS does the MoH have?

  26. NorthernObserver Avatar

    Thanks Sarge.
    The amusing part of that article, amidst the quandary, the CJ was referred to as Sir Patterson.


  27. I hear listening to Brasstacks.

    Peter Wickham is moderator.


  28. here


  29. NO,

    In looking out for the interests of one’s country, one can still consider the interests of other countries and one SHOULD.

    There is such a thing as a win:win outcome.

    A stable world of financially viable countries would probably benefit ALL countries.

    It does not have to be either me or you. Truly, there is enough for everybody.

    The trouble is that most do not see that chickens will eventually come home to roost. If you exploit, bully, manipulate or interfere in other countries, you end up with plenty chickens.

    Win:win outcomes are actually less costly. It is therefore in a country’s OWN FINANCIAL INTEREST to pursue mutual satisfaction.

    This is long-term rather than short-term thinking.

    It would work well in families. It would work well in businesses. It would work well in countries and between countries.

    Call me Pollyanna but that has always been my thinking!


  30. TheO,

    As I heard it. The objection to certain questions was lodged. We would need more information on what those questions were. The IDB admits that they agreed to take them out and didn’t.

    I doubt the Minister was there for the administration of the survey or was involved in the minutaie.

    No doubt the survey was authorised by the elected officials. But were they the ones who authorised the disrespect to the principals and parents?

    The buck stops at the top does not mean that the dirty deed was done at the top. If ever you have run anything, you know that.

    But…..the buck must still stop at the top. I do not absolve the elected officials from responsibility. It goes with the territory.

    Just my instinct and my opinion, to which I am entitled.

    But yuh know when yuh doan agree wid certain elements pon BU the nasty labels come out!

    Yuh dun know dat Donna doan give a shit!

    P.S. Yuh tink anybody coulda kick “Principal Donna” outta she classroom an’ administer an unknown survey to SHE children?????

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    sorry William…. but schooling IS NOT INTELLIGENCE, neither does it make anyone EDUCATED…..this is the fallout from those who believe they are…

    A large pile of USELESS IMPOTENCE coming from slave minds, is making the situation that much worse, especially when they ARE NOT UP-TO- DATE WITH INFORMATION….

    but there are a cross-section, who are ON TOP OF IT….we do not bow, bend or BREAK…

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    William….keep ya eyes FIRMLY AFFIXED on the Bridgetown SLAVE AGENDA…


  33. Pirate Jams
    In the new upside down world of newest comments first on the underground barbados playlists play the last songs first and the first songs last

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L5FTCCW9ZU

  34. African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved Avatar
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    This is a balanced opinion from a known local. There are even more traumatized children walking around than we knew about…because …SURPRISE?????? they LIED

    i told yall ya CANNOT COVER UP ANYTHING…ya had 100 years of time…YOUR TIME IS UP…

    “By John Roett on FB:

    Trust, once broken, is difficult and sometimes impossible to regain.
    I was going to leave this “computer science pre-test” issue alone, because it has deeply affected my spirit, and angered me beyond the limit of what is safe for my health to endure.

    But, two days ago, I received a private message from a single mother, followed by a telephone call, and I could feel the hurt in her voice. Her daughter had been made to answer the same reprehensible questions, LAST YEAR! As you can see in the attached file, she was most damaged by having to put her name on the “test”.

    This whole fiasco is truly beyond belief, covered in a shroud of lies, deceit, and obfuscation.
    I watched the press conference with the Minister Of Education, and the Chief Education Officer, and other members of staff. I could comment on many things, but it would take too long.

    However, ONE thing the Minister said stuck with me, which was that they now have to begin the process of rebuilding trust with the public.
    The problem is, after what has transpired under their watch, that will NEVER happen as long as they are still in charge. That’s the truth, and everyone with half a brain would know that.

    To draw an Eric Lewis type of analogy, if you discovered that your partner had cheated on you last week and they were forced to admit it…but then you found out they had also cheated on you in June…and in September last year, would you ever trust them again? Only if you were an idiot.

    Every single way of looking at this leads to a conclusion that the Minister and the CEO, and anyone else involved in this debacle of national embarrassment should do the right thing and resign, or be made to resign.

    On “Brass Tacks” yesterday, the CEO was forced to make the stunning revelation that the “test” was also given to students in some schools in June this year, but I heard no mention about the “test” administered in September last year, which caused my friend’s daughter much anguish.

    What about those children? why has their trauma been completely ignored? Why were these previous “tests” not mentioned in the press conference? Did they forget about them?…or did they just forget to mention it? Did they not even know about them? Did the fact that they were administered at what are unfortunately termed “lesser schools” make a difference?

    These are the possibilities broken down as simply as possible.

    1) If the IDB has administered any “pre-test” to any students at any time, WITHOUT the knowledge of the Minister or the CEO, they should both resign on the grounds of gross negligence and failure in properly executing their duties.

    2) If the IDB has administered any “pre-test” to any students at any time, inclusive of the offensive questions, WITH the knowledge of the Minister or the CEO, they should both resign on the grounds of gross negligence and failure in executing their duties, and collusion in causing our children severe psychological trauma.

    3) If those responsible at the MoE questioned the inclusion of “some of the questions”, and then did not check that the questions had been removed, the Minister and the CEO should both resign, just for displaying such ignorance. (And yes, I’m still hard pressed to comprehend how 167 questions out of 300 could be referred to as “some”.

    Note at this point that no one “inadvertently” leaves in 167 questions that they were asked to remove…though on careful thought, “asking” someone to do something is considerably different than “ordering” them to do so…but that would depend on who holds the power, you know?

    Not that it matters now, but given the overall scenario, the representative at the IDB appears to be lying through her teeth, and if actually responsible for the offensive questions “inadvertently” remaining in the “test”, then she too should be made to resign.
    We definitely don’t have that kind of power, but hopefully her superiors do.

    Oh, and why are the results being stored in “a safe government place” while the ministry awaits advice, including legal?
    Where are the results from the “pre tests” done in June, and September last year?
    What was done with that data?

    If this recent “test” accounted for 733 children, what’s the grand total now?
    I wonder if a class action suit is in the making, because this disaster surely deserves it.

    The CEO says we need to move forward, as she desperately seeks to escape the blazing fire of the harsh spotlight that now exposes a morass of utter incompetence. Sadly, no one involved seems to understand that their resignation would enable everyone to move forward a lot easier, and a lot faster…but it would at least be the first meaningful step towards rebuilding the trust of which the Minister spoke…an exercise that’s going to take a considerable length of time, and new people in control.

    I’m well aware that this will probably be swept under the rug, because that’s who we are, but it is my civic duty to let my disgust be known…and I am truly, deeply disgusted.

    We should all be 🙏🏻


  35. On top of it or SHIT?


  36. @David
    Is there something wrong on your end.
    The comments seem to be way out of chronological order.


  37. Reading from bottom to top may be more than I can handle.


  38. The comments have been turned upside down at John A’ suggestion with recent comment appearing at the top. Some of us find it a struggle to wade through oldest comments first.


  39. The Dean of the Faculty of Law of the UWI is either an ass, an apologist or both.

    From B
    “Dean of the Faculty of Law at the Cave Hill Campus of the University of the West Indies, Professor Eddy Ventose told Barbados TODAY that “the mere possession by the Government of information that might be confidential or private does not of itself suggest any breach of the constitutional right to privacy”.

    “The Government, through its various departments, including the Queen Elizabeth Hospital, possesses confidential information on many persons. It cannot and could not be suggested that that alone means that
    there exists a constitutional breach,” he said.

    Dear Sir,
    What really is your point?
    I can list you a dozen more organizations that have information that is both confidential and private. Even an idiot like me knows that is not the issue. or where the question of constitutionally come into play.

    Where the constitution comes into play is when the government usurped the rights of the parents, violated the civil rights of the children; pushed the teachers and principals out of the classroom and may I add collected information that may be (self) incriminating to the students.
    112. I physically attack people
    127. I set fires
    136. I steal at home
    137. I steal from places other than here
    95. I destroy things belonging to others
    57. I drink alcohol without my parents approval
    73. I deliberately try to kill or hurt myself
    85. I lie or I cheat

    Do Bajans have the right to remain silent?

  40. Critical Analyzer Avatar
    Critical Analyzer

    We need these lawyers to stop wasting time on these frivolous spitting contest lawsuits (ala
    https://barbadostoday.bb/2022/10/13/date-set-2/ ).

    The parents need to bring 2 separate class action lawsuits against the Principals/Teachers and MoE to bring all of what went on out in court and send a message via the court system that they must never forget their first duty is to stick to their principles for what they know to be right or accept the consequences for not protecting our children whom we entrust to their care while at school.


  41. @CA

    Agreed.

    Suing the IDB makes no sense. Sure for what and where?

  42. Critical Analyzer Avatar
    Critical Analyzer

    @David

    I would be extremely surprised if the IDB were not indemnified against lawsuits by the contract with the MoE. These international agencies have been doing shenanigans for decades so they always make sure to legally protect themselves.

    The most we can do with the IDB is give them their loan money back and not take any future money from them. Then contract our own knowledgeable technocrats to design and build programs to support our development. If we do that we will be able to publish our own studies and earn so consulting money too implementing our program in other developing countries.

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    Too bad the dumb are looking dumber and dumber by their own hands….

    William….more to come..

    no one on BU gets to dictate what should or should not happen next, that’s COMPLETELY UP TO THE PARENTS AS A COLLECTIVE, guardians of THEIR CHILDREN…. after BEING SUITABLY ADVISED….and not by government shitehounds either or any of their imps pimps or slaves….

  44. Critical Analyzer Avatar
    Critical Analyzer

    @David

    I don’t know the law but were I one of the parents involved I would be asking my lawyer about suing based on

    1) The Principals/Teachers involved probably breaching some equivalent of fiduciary responsibility in the Education Act when they allowed unsupervised access to children by third parties not employed by the MoE during school hours.

    2) The ministry allowing the consultants to run the show without proper oversight to ensure they were complying with all our laws.

  45. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    @Donna
    Potentially, you missed the thrust of my comment, which related to a Ponzi scheme.
    There is more than enough of what to go around….debt?
    You may have heard the PM is her effort to make the local debt situation appear “ok”, reference the 4? nations teetering on default.
    I was pointing out, that much of the Globe’s multi/bi lateral debt is all a promise, which a variety of “investors” buy, based on “guarantees” by certain ‘sponsor nations’.
    To have all nations financially viable is a pipe dream. You cannot stop de teefing? It is rampant.
    And once a nation reaches a certain ‘standard’, whether that is by borrowed funds or earned funds, winding that back is near impossible.


  46. @CA

    One of the main reasons for going to the IMF is to unlock concessionary funding from international development agencies like IDB. Given the last decade of running high debt to gdp and a crumbling infrastructure, we need the funding?


  47. Moanin’ At Midnight
    To cut to the chase this is another NTSH acronym BAU SANFU etc
    Governments Agencies and Courts are peas in a pod
    Birds of a feather flock together whatever the weather
    You may as well howl at the moon like Howlin’ Wolf
    learn the guitar and sing the blues and let it out


  48. SANFU = SNAFU

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    William…i see they are still trying to INSERT THEMSELVES in the Ukraine war, best place for them….world stage giddy.

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