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Time for Barbados Government to Issue Mandatory Vaccination Directive

If the blogmaster were Prime Minister of Barbados the following edict would be issued as at 6PM today:

  1. Effective 15 October 2021 all persons entering banks and supermarkets will be required to show proof of being vaccinated for COVID 19 as well as adhering to existing COVID 19 protocols.
  2. Effective 1 November 2021 all medical personnel must be vaccinated as well as to adhere to existing COVID 19 protocols.

The blogmaster is aware the legislative framework will have to be tweaked to support. To manage a public health crisis prioritizing an amendment to existing legislation should command unanimous support in parliament.

It is obvious to all Barbadians community spread of the coronavirus is out of control in Barbados, confirmed by key medical personnel on the frontline. The virus is exerting extreme pressure on healthcare services in Barbados. The mouthings of a seldom seen or heard Minister of Labour should be punished in the context of the ongoing public health crisis on a trajectory to get worse. This is no time for rh political games.

It is times like now real leaders must stand-up for the good of country..

358 responses to “Time for Barbados Government to Issue Mandatory Vaccination Directive”

  1. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    Sotomeyer sits on a court which has imposed death sentences of millions of Afrikan Americand by reinstituting the Jim Crow era election rules. What else is to be expected from a conservator of imperium.

  2. John2 Avatar
    John2

    John@

    There is no shortage of vaccine on the island

    Ok

    But the was never enuff to vaccinate the total population or those that Are willing to be vaccinated

    I said it before
    Get enuff vaccines and give enuff time according to the rate of vaccination u can do In a day . After that time pass then let the show drop

  3. David Avatar
    David

    @John2

    What?

  4. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    While Barbados is dutifully following America and talking about coercive mandates some Western Europeans hold a more enlightened view.

    That is – citizens can choose to be vaccinated or not. Hospitals are available for the ill. Protocols to be followed. And the countries remain open for business. Business is what the politicians and their supporters, including David, no different to Trump. And they are prepared to get back to business by any means necessary. Especially with an election in 18 months.

  5. David Avatar
    David

    Which countries are those Pacha?

  6. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    It is not 39.1 % of those eligible but of the population.

  7. John A Avatar
    John A

    @ John 2

    No one can say this government did not try to encourage the people to get vaccinated. I give them 8 out of 10 for that.

    Where I give them 2 out of 10 though is that when they realised that approach would not cut it they did not move to plan B quickly. If that was done we would not be at risk now of discarding valuable vaccines due to lack of interest. I am interested to see how this move by Lionel C Hill will play out and if a union, political party or anti vaxx group will challenge it in a court of law.

  8. GP Avatar
    GP

    The blogmaster supports the learned opinion of prominent lawyer Garth Patterson on the matter.
    THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN A BIG PROBLEM IN BARBADOS
    HOW EXACTLY DOES ONE BEING A PROMINENT LAWYER CAUSE ONE TO HAVE A “”LEARNED OPINION””ON A TOPIC IN THE BASIC MEDICAL SCIENCE DISCIPLINE OF MICROBIOLOGY AND SPECIFICALLY VIROLOGY AND IMMUNOLOGY—TWO OF THE HARDEST AREAS OF MICROBIOLOGY TO MASTER?
    PLEASE HELP ME TO COMPREHEND THIS. I AM ALWAYS WWILLING TO LEARN.

  9. Tron Avatar
    Tron

    @ David October 1, 2021 1:23 PM

    Dear David,

    Finally a responsible contribution. I also very much like the opinion of the lawyer you quoted – not the usual criminal legal twisting we hear far too often from the mouths of certain union leaders and outspoken QCs.

    An intermediate step could be to make vaccination compulsory for civil servants and all companies that trade with the government – as in the USA. Another measure would be to charge unvaccinated people for their treatment.

    In any case, it is clear that things cannot go on like this. We are currently witnessing the worst massacre of the black population since Bussa’s uprising – but this time not by white militias, but by the opposition and their allied shysters who talk of “freedom of choice” and are driving the country into the abyss.

    Isn’t it ironic that our businessmen, of all people, are strongly urging the population to vaccinate, to save our island and our people? The exact reversal of history!

  10. GP TRAINED MEDICAL DOCTOR Avatar
    GP TRAINED MEDICAL DOCTOR

    IS LYALL SMALL A STATISTICIAN, AND EPIDEMIOLOGIST, A VIROLOGIST, AN IMUNOLOGIST? A PHYSICIAN? FROM HIS LAST POST ABOVE IT SEMMS THAT HE IS A METEREREOLOGIST………..we now seem to be firmly approaching the eye wall of the Covid19 storm.
    THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF FEAR AND PANICK….RATHER THAN CALM LOGIC AND CAREFUL PLANNING …….WE SEEM TO BE LOST IN WONDER……AND LACKING IN THE LOVE AND PRAISE…UH LIE?
    MEDICINE IS TO BE PRACTICED BY TRAINED PRACTIONERS WITH CALM HEADS.

  11. Tron Avatar
    Tron

    @ John A October 1, 2021 5:57 PM

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the High Lords from the North stopped donating us vaccines and clearly communicated to our government that they don’t help hellholes where Aboriginal people are unwilling to vaccinate.

    It is now about 2 months since the anti-vaxx riots. The first vaccine is about to expire. We now stand as savages, like the redlecks in the southern states of the US. And that comparison is saying something …

  12. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    https://www.nationnews.com/2021/10/01/228-new-covid-cases-1-080-isolation/

  13. BAJE Avatar
    BAJE

    I LIVE IN A CITY OF OVER 1.5 MILLION AND ONLY GOT VACCINATED A WEEK AGO WITH JOHNSON AND JOHNSON ONE SHOT AND HAD SIDE EFFECTS FOR 2 DAYS.

    THE VACCINE SHOULD BE VOLUNTARILY AS PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO MAKE A DECISION WHAT GOES INTO THEIR BODIES.

    ESPECIALLY WHEN BOTH VACCINATED AND UNVACCINATED CAN BE AFFECTED AND SPREAD THE VIRUS.

  14. David Avatar
    David

    Lyall is a retired civil servant whose Master’s thesis was on an Epidemiological project. He shared this info on the blog.

  15. Tron Avatar
    Tron

    With Senator Caswell raging against employers who are concerned about the vaccination status and health of their workers, it is all too obvious that the Senate and the unions have totally delegitimised themselves in this crisis. They are institutions of injustice, working against the common good and the health of the black masses.

  16. John A Avatar
    John A

    @ Tron

    Sadly it’s not only some of us that are concerned with the inaction of government. Was told today by a leading villa rental company that cancelations of Xmas bookings are coming in daily and when ask why, were told high percentage of positive to test percentage and lack of controls was the reason.

    The UK and others are now accustomed of the unvaxed not being able to enter restaurants etc and can’t believe this has not been done here yet. As I said we need to make some changes and quickly. Why would these that are vaccinated come here and not feel they can safely move among others that are vaccinated as well? All like now the BTA should be in a position to say yes by start of the season all of our members and workers will be vaccinated. As they say people before country and country before party.

  17. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    David
    Norway, for one.

  18. GP Avatar
    GP

    SO THE ESTEEMED LYALL SMALL WROTE A Master’s thesis was on an Epidemiological project, SO THEN HE IS NEITHER A MEDICAL EPIDEMIOLOGIST, A VIROLOGIST, AN IMUNOLOGIST OR A PHYSICIAN. AND THUS UNABLE TO COMMENT WITH ANY AUTHORITY ON THE MATTER …….HIS OPINION IS NOT MUCH BETTER THAN THAT OF THE LEARNED LEGAL LUMINARY, OR DR FALSE-Y

    SEEMS THAT WE FOLLOWED THE OVERSEAS MULTITUDE TO DO RUBBISH INSTEAD OF LISTENING TO DOUGLA AND THOSE HONEST DRS WHO ADVISED STRONG PROPHYLACTIC MEASURES “=.> ZINC TUMERIC VIT D CHEAP DRUGS WITH KNOWN ABILITY TO COUNTER CORONOVIRUSES ACCORDING TO ESTABLISHED MECHANISM OF ACTION, BACKED UP BY RELEVANT ANTIBIOTICS

    MANY DOCTORS ARE GETTING GREAT SUCESS ALL OVER THE WORLD IF THEY GIVE
    THE RIGHT DOSE………TO
    THE RIGHT PATIENTS……IF THEY PRESENT AT
    THE RIGHT TIME …ETC

  19. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    “Do you find it normal how a retailer feels sufficiently emboldened”

    they will all find themselves boycotted, no one has to spend any money with them

    and the attempt at mass divisions using sleazy lawyers comes as no surprise, that too will backfire….and all the vampires are out with one scheme or another…did courts pre and post new ownership ever repay the 25 million in uncollected VAT…

  20. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    Neither are you.
    You thinking is coloured by a madness which requires you to believe in things which never happened.

  21. David Avatar
    David

    @Pacha

    Norway is nearly 70% vaccinated. What is your point?

  22. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    Your

  23. David Avatar
    David

    “We have plenty AstraZeneca. We have some expiring at the end of October and some expiring at the end of December. We were doing well with the first tranche and the second tranche, but the third overlapped a bit and we got the donation from Canada, so it gave us extra we had not planned for,” she explained.

  24. Tron Avatar
    Tron

    @ John A October 1, 2021 6:35 PM

    Exactly.

    Some holiday airlines shave therefore suspended air traffic with Barbados indefinitely. This is costing us a lot of tourists. More cancellations will follow. At least we can save ourselves a lockdown. People don’t want to come to us anyway because they are so afraid.

    People ask me: Why do I, as a fully vaccinated person, have to take 2 PCR tests and pay a lot of money for quarantine, while in Barbados parts of the local elite sabotage the vaccination campaign and only about one third of the population is fully vaccinated??? Tourists, unfortunately, no longer feel welcome in our country, and have done so ever since the Nelson riots last year.

    It is unfortunately true that many Third World countries have only themselves to blame for their lack of development. Instead of crying for reparations, our bureaucrats should rather ask themselves why the black masses are dying like flies, although the Lord from the High North have given us the vaccine in sufficient numbers.

    Actually, it is already too late to turn around for the winter season.

    We need an enlightened dictatorship NOW, today, at last. Workers’ rights must be temporarily suspended, trade union leaders either silent or in custody.

  25. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Seems to me Barbadians want to have their cake and eat it too.

    That’ll soon change when the consequences of their unreasonableness hits home. When more bellies start touching more backs the heads will think more clearly.

    Not long now!

  26. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    David

    Well they did a good job of .convincing the majority of the population like we have always asked Mottley and others to do.

    Norway has not resorted to coercive mandates like spokesmen are fronting for the regime in Bridgetown.

    Here, two points. Not one

  27. David Avatar
    David

    @Pacha

    No consideration for the nuance that country presents?

    Norway: voluntary vaccination is the policy, though the law seems to allow for more

    https://lexatlas-c19.org/norway-voluntary-vaccination-is-the-policy-law-allows-for-more-but-probably-not-now/

  28. David Avatar
    David

    This is a link to a story where a shop in Washington has a sign up, no vaccine don’t enter.

    https://www.kuow.org/stories/no-shirt-no-shot-no-service

  29. David Avatar
    David

    This is another link for New York where some of you posting shit on the blog reside.

    https://www.kuow.org/stories/no-shirt-no-shot-no-service

  30. John Avatar
    John

    DavidOctober 1, 2021 6:43 PM

    @Pacha

    Norway is nearly 70% vaccinated. What is your point?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Singapore is 82 % vaccinated and cases are higher than ever.

    Incidentally, no mandatory vaccination!!

  31. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    David

    Is one article, unread by you beyond the title, to take precedence.

    Even if true, that they have slightly broader powers they have not embarked on dictatorial edicts like Barbados seems determined to.

  32. John Avatar
    John

    https://fortune.com/2021/09/09/singapore-covid-hospitalized-cases-community-vaccine-rate/

  33. David Avatar
    David

    Has Barbados embarked on a dictatorial edict?

    Note those societies are more disciplined than we are which explains their deep vaccine penetration.

  34. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    John
    Weeeeee are with you on this one. The implications of your statement, rightly, are that vaccination maybe helpful but no guarantor for breaking the back of this pandemic. But if we break a 500 year old social compact bigger problems may await.

  35. David Avatar
    David

    There are rising infections in Singapore but the number of those severely illness is disproportionately higher among the unvaccinated. Also Singapore has nearly 30 hospitals. Any bets Singapore will arrest the issue in the coming weeks compared to Barbados?

    #discipline

  36. John A Avatar
    John A

    @ Tron

    The other question the brits are asking is how come as of October 4th if you are fully vaccinated I will let you into my country without a pcr test, but if I come to visit yours I must have a pcr on arrival and wait for results? Then when I leave your country to go back to the UK they do not require a test for me to walk through Heathrow and Gatwick once I have proof of full vaccination.

    I mean where is the logic in all of this especially the reentering to the uk without a test? This whole thing is like a bad novel.

  37. Tron Avatar
    Tron

    Our government is obviously split between decent vaccination supporters and very radical vaccination opponents. It is headless and leaderless. How else can it be explained that the Minister of Labour assures vaccine-averse workers that they are protected by some backward health and safety laws?

    Our Supreme Leader must FINALLY act and bring her Cabinet in line. We are facing billions of dollars in damage due to the loss of the winter season.

    The U.S. will definitely not donate any more vaccine to us as long as our black elite continue to live mentally on the 18th century plantation.

  38. David Avatar
    David

    Garth Patterson is clear to make the point that personal liberty disappears when it compromises public safety/security. In this case we are talking about a public health AND economic crisis.

  39. Tron Avatar
    Tron

    @John AOctober 1, 2021 7:24 PM

    I agree. Wasn’t it that our BAMP president pushed for the quarantine of the fully vaccinated?

    Abroad, the impression is growing that our government prefers to appease anti-vaccinationists than to accommodate harmless, fully vaccinated tourists. Given that we will NEVER get the Delta virus off the island again, the entry quarantine for fully vaccinated visitors is a despicable act against the tourism industry.

  40. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    David
    Have we not established from political science literature that Barbados is an elected dictatorship.

    Anything and everything ever done or not by any such regime is by definition a dictatorial edict.

    With a one-party stateism firmly entrenched, and given the recent high-handedness of the regime could dictatorial edicts be any more obvious.

    Can’t be sure but given the coordinated determination by you and others an ill-advised action is coming.

  41. David Avatar
    David

    @Pacha

    If you are the political scientist you make yourself out to be there is no real democracy only the pretense of one.

  42. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    David

    Garth Patterson is making the same argument the Americans made for war on Iraq – safety and security.

    There is a former American president who also argued that once liberties are given up we’ll have neither safety nor security. The national security state of a republic of Barbados is upon us.

    With respect, you’re out of your depth. Be careful, you may be caught within your own web.

  43. Tee White Avatar
    Tee White

    @David

    Your proposal is consistent with what Keith Rowley described as the draconian and dictatorial measures being taken by governments across the region against the people. It seems to be based on the ‘silver bullet hope’ that vaccinating everybody against their will is going to make Covid 19 go away. But I don’t think you’ve thought this through. Your argument seems to be that the unvaccinated are burdening the health care system and so mass indiscriminate vaccination is the answer. First, as you will notice from the isolation figures you posted, of the 629 unvaccinated individuals in the isolation report, 60 (9.5%) are in primary or secondary isolation, in other words, these are the individuals who actually need medical attention. In other countries, people who test positive for Covid but present no symptoms of serious illness are isolated at home for the required period because putting them in isolation units places unnecessary pressure on limited resources. This is a lesson that those who are managing covid in the country finally seem to be realising.

    This average ratio of around 10% of those infected with Covid actually needing hospitalisation has been pretty consistent since the start of the epidemic and remains so despite the Delta variant. So, in reality, it is this 10% of the population that needs protection from covid 19. So for us, that amounts to just under 30,000 people. Given the fact that the vaccines basically appear to break the link between infection and severe symptoms or death, vaccinating the other 257, 000 of us might make you feel that you’re doing something but you’re simply wasting vaccines because there was never any significant risk of people in that group becoming severely ill from Covid. As I have repeatedly argued, the issue is to identify the endangered 10% and provide them with the protection they need. This should include all forms of prevention and early treatment protocols. For those who are unwilling to take the experimental covid vaccines, then offer them ivermectin or any other prophylaxis which is effective and safe. This is how infectious respiratory diseases, like flu, have always been managed and there is no logical or scientific reasons why it shouldn’t be the same for Covid. There really is no justification for adopting fascist methods of coercion in this matter.

    The other flaw in your proposal is that it doesn’t take into account the fact that the vaccine immunity wanes over time. Various countries have already started booster shot programmes and the CEO of Pfizer claims that these will be necessary every 6 months. If Barbados were to follow your mandatory vaccine advice, then we would need to understand that this would be a permanent arrangement since those who are vaccinated now will become unvaccinated once the immunity wears off. Please explain where Barbados will find the money from to buy vaccines to vaccinate 80% of its population on an ongoing, at least annual basis. If you think those who are giving us vaccines today will continue to do so indefinitely, I suggest you google ‘GAVI transitional financing’. GAVI which is part of COVAX has been operating in Africa for years using this model as a way of creating markets for big pharma.

    I understand that there is real fear that the Covid situation in the country is getting out of hand but this is because we have been blindly following a playbook from others rather than analysiing our situation and trying to devise a strategy that works for us. Today with 39% of the populatin vaccinated, we are in a worse situation than when we had 100% unvaccinated. Your proposal is to continue following the foreign playbook in the hope that somehow it will produce a different result.

  44. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    Only the people who work in the system or for these private sector shitehounds are at risk of being forced into anything…….if nothing else it’s showing them how NOT INDEPENDENT they are, and this is the opportunity to remedy that….while making their innoculation decisions…

  45. David Avatar
    David

    @Pacha

    What out of depth what. The state and private enterprise encroach on our personal space every minute of the day. Did you miss what Snowden had to say? What about the cellphone in your pocket that maps your every movement? Human being have been snorting mandatory vaccines for decades at the directive of governments.

  46. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    David

    Yes, we never made such claims. The straw man at work per usual.

    But yes there are no real democracies that we know of given what democracy really means. A few countries make strenuous efforts. Certainly, democracy cannot mean waiting around for an election, a mere political process, can it?

  47. David Avatar
    David

    On that point there is no separation.

  48. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    Can’t respond to all these.

    Coercive mandates represent a departure from what has happened before.

    The GoB seems willing to go to war with Bajans given yours and Patterson’s renderings

    People had options and were never under such pressures after a failure of the successive promises made about vaccines.

  49. John Avatar
    John

    So how many Bajans have had COVID and survived and have natural immunity?

    Nuff, the testing alone picked up at least 8,609 cases of which 78 have unfortunately died.

    Nuff more have had it and been asymptomatic.

    This week 6,500 were vaccinated to which can be added another 20,000 or 30,000 who have natural immunity maybe even more.

  50. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    The question here is : What if we go for what @ David considers the ultimate solution and the situation remains the same or decline more what would we do then .
    This is where , in my limited opinion @ Pacha and @ Tee White position cannot be seriously questioned.
    As ignorant as it may sound to some, it is now evident that those with vaccinations are still at risk regardless of how big or small.
    We are in to some very new waters here. This is where we need a serious transformation in leadership from all sectors. Encroaching on a person’s right to refuse any medical procedure is a dangerous path to follow.
    Furthermore recent developments have ripple effects and it may sound silly but citizens may not be too confident when attempts were made to import vaccines from totally unreliable and dubious sources.
    The most serious damage this has done to our gallant efforts is the impending departure of a very trusted, respected and popular Minister of Health.
    These matters are converging rather quickly. Now according to the Minister of Labour, employers have no right to enforce mandatory vaccinations on workers. I don’t think the PM wants another departure.
    The country needs inspiration and clear leadership at this time and I think the PM should think twice before making the move to mandatory vaccinations.
    Quite frankly, @Pacha is very much correct.

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