The recent revision of the Covid 19 directives saw the country receiving a cruise ship on Monday and auto mart convenience stores along with supermarkets are expected to reopen on Sundays. The entertainment group hard hit by Covid 19 directives has started a strong lobby to be able to restart some level of event promotions. The Haywire Weekend being promoted by a foreign travel travel company on the weekend of 2 July to July 6 in Barbados has given impetus to the entertainer’s lobby.
It is no secret the local economy is service based and significantly dependent on tourism. Raging Covid 19 pandemic or not, at some point- like all countries across the globe- we have to find a way to manage the risk of having to live with Covid 19. The global strategy of choice to mitigate against the rate of Covid 19 infection is to achieve ‘herd immunity’, a situation where about 70% of the population are vaccinated. There are no guarantees as the Seychelles experience has revealed. Although 60% of that country is vaccinated it has been experiencing a rise in Covid 19 infections. Seychelles is also dependent on tourism.
Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown.
Reopening the country to increase economic activity is fraught with risk. Daily we observe a minority of persons in the country who carelessly or deliberately violate public health protocols established to curb the spread of the virus. With the virus continuing to mutate to more virulent forms there is a high level of responsibility required by citizens and government to make reopening the country work to locals and visitors. We have made our beds by morphing to a service based economy and have no choice but to lie in it.
We have two significant challenges ahead of us. Ensuring the screening process at ports of entry is fit for purpose and the demand by visitors calling for workers in the hospitality sector to be fully vaccinated. There is also the scenario where vaccinated employees may employers to work in a 100% vaccinated workplace. Already a weakness in the travel protocol has been identified – unvaccinated children under 18 entering Barbados with fully vaccinated parents being allowed to adhere to fully vaccinated guidelines. And there is the challenge of employers ‘forcing’ employees to be vaccinated.
Citizens have rights, employers have rights and there is the dictum that limits the free choice of individuals when it conflicts with the rights of the collective. Some hard decisions will have to be made and the blogmaster is fearful given the unruly mindset prevailing in the country, we do not possess the maturity to navigate this stage of the Covid 19 journey with minimum fallout. In other words the loud voice of political talking heads and egotistical social commentators will grab the opportunity to choke traditional and social media newsfeeds to push narrow interest narratives. The current debate about our social values and public morals is an example.
Those employees who prefer to exercise a personal right not to be vaccinated should be paid severance. Unvaccinated children travelling with fully vaccinated parents should have to observe the quarantine period stipulated for the unvaccinated. In the unprecedented situation we find ourselves these are hard decisions we will have to make.
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Years ago I went to a chemical spill in a hospital, after we investigated it we waited for a hazmat crew to arrive. When they did make it there we joked where are your canaries , to which they replied you are the canaries. Just like you dont want to be the first to swim across a river in Africa if you have the money to hold out little longer till more people are vaccinated and you see what the effects are on countries that have to re-open you may avoid mistakes , blunders or another shutdown. Being cautious is not a sign of incompetence on the contrary its what a good leader does, no rash decisions or decisions influenced by pressure or political gain just whats right for its people thats why they are voted in and well paid. When the young bull said to his father ,lets run down the hill and get some of those cows and the dad says son …lets walk down and get them all Slow and steady wins the race.
Two passengers aboard the cruise ship Celebrity Millennium tested positive for COVID yesterday. This is the vessel that was in Barbados earlier this week.
Read of the development in the early newsfeed. One suspects it will be the major topic of discussion today, another press conference maybe?
The tittle should be Hard Times, Stupid Decisions.
Too many bad decisions and totalitarian country type decisions are being made in the name of public health.
Lawyers are opining on a person’s private health matters when they should keep quiet or push for the public health authorities to make a proclamation and start the debate on rights. The employee has rights too, not just the employers and patrons.
What I want to hear from the lawyers and the public health officials is
1) If an employer forces an employee to take a vaccine and they become vaccine injured, disabled or dies, what level of damages the employee can claim.
2) Why does our CMO has absolutely no policy on any of the cheap early intervention treatments (http://covidoutpatientcare.com/) now backed by numerous robust peer reviewed studies?
@peterlawrencethompson June 11, 2021 7:20 AM
The dog and pony show is only just starting, soon the people will start running around again like chickens with their heads chopped off.
Our leaders and public health authorities are too arrogant to admit publicly they followed bad science and implemented seriously bad treatment protocols turning a virus that was the equivalence of a bad flu into a public health nightmare.
It was not a bad fly earlier this year when we had the Outbreak and Were racking up the deaths
During a pandemic the law gives way for employers asked for proof of a vaccine action certificate
However the employer cannot make demands on the employee/s to be vaccinate
As in some cases the employee put incentives in place which can give the employee a choice between employed and being vaccinated
This will eventually be tested in court, until it is all will be giving their OPINIONS including the lawyers.
Stories such as this will not attract visitors to the island. Where there is an economic and social vacuum crime will fill in the void.
https://www.nationnews.com/2021/05/05/ten-injured-man-custody/
@John2 June 11, 2021 8:08 AM
It would not have even reached a bad flu status and definitely not a major pandemic if the early interventions some doctors were having great success with were not suppressed in favor of the vaccine push.
@CA
How do you speculate the government could have pursued a public health policy detached from the establishment I.e. WHO, CDC, BAMP etc.
More bad news.
Note the description of this young man. They use pleasant words to describe certain features of his brown DNA; but use negative descriptions of his more pronounced negro features.
https://www.nationnews.com/2021/06/10/wanted-kiastan-hallen-clarke/
DavidJune 11, 2021 8:30 AM
This will eventually be tested in court, until it is all will be giving their OPINIONS including the lawyers.
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International countries have already place a legal directive on this problem
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Why is it that govt is once again being tardy on putting pieces of legislation in place with special directives for the employer and employee to adhere
Needles to say govt knows this is a political football and would rather sit on the side line and shout across the field sending all kind of mixed messages to the Umpire and player
Govt needs to move swift and fast with a set of policies which will make for a better understanding on this issue
@David June 11, 2021 8:30 AM
This will not get tested in court.
You should say ‘Everyone except the doctors are giving their opinion’ and I don’t ever expect to hear any doctors comment on it in public either. The doctors know the vaccines are fraught with problems and have not undergone proper testing necessary to qualify for anything except emergency approval.
@CA
You are aware BAMP President sits on the COVID 19 Advisory Board?d
@ David
Sooner or later it will come down to one single decision and it will be economic activity vs health risk. Dress the decision up all you want, give it a fancy name, but in the end that will be the decision that will have to be made before the SS Barbados implodes on the reef of financial ruin.
So lets say the travellers insist they only stay at hotels where the staff are fully vaccinated what then? So yes the workers have a choice to be vaccinated but what happens if that choice causes the hotel to get no business what then? Will the PM in a tourist dependant economy mandate vaccinations by law? Before you say she cant do that remember she has a 30 to 0 majority.
Now lets look at the UK where we are still on Amber. There they are seeing an increase in cases made up by over 90% of the indian variant. What will that mean now for us?
So yes we can sit here and pontificate about employee rights and travel rules, but in the end guess what will be governments formula for the decision? Yep economy vs health risk. That decision to a large extent will however be made for them to some extent based on traveller demands and virus developments
You will note the blog predicted we will see the usual characters with narrow agendas shelling out the usual. So far has anyone responded to the current challenge to repeat. How does a tourism dependent country deal with the fact some visitors are asking to be accommodated and served by employees who are vaccinated?
@David June 11, 2021 8:49 AM
That is the first job of government. The DLP got zero seats because they spectacularly failed to do that. WHO, CDC and BAMP are not the decision makers. WHO, CDC and BAMP can only publish their recommendations based on what they cherry pick to look at.
It is government’s and the CMO’s/ public health agency resposibilty during a pandemic to review at all the information, research papers and statistics out there or they themselves gather, consult with BAMP if they need additional opinions to make their own decisions.
If our government is unwilling to do that, we should stop the republic nonsense talk and go back to being a colony of somebody because we would not have the ability or trust in ourselves to make sensible decisions for ourselves. We came up with our own BERT program. We have a ton of doctors in this country with tons of qualifications, why can we not figure our a better way to deal with this pandemic than the unscientific nonsense we have been doing over the last year?
@David June 11, 2021 9:06 AM
Simple, we tell them we have health privacy here and inform them that if you have been vaccinated, you have nothing to worry about or you can stay home.
Our biggest deterrent to tourists is the incarceration center for positive cases we have. Our policy should be if you test positive, we give our your choice of early treatment drugs and supplements cocktail and come back if you get worse otherwise enjoy your vacation.
@ David
I am hoping the BTA, the unions and the tourism minister can meet and arrive at a solution for the hotel workers.
Look let’s be honest there will never be a vaccine that is 100% effective against all variants and mutations. Not going to happen ! In the meantime we can only do the best we can and get this economy going again. Businesses can not take another 6 months of this trust me when I say this.
I cringe when people dismiss this virus as “just a flu”. It is an instant sign that they don’t comprehend why this virus is a serious public health emergency. Was the Spanish flu “just a flu” too? Why did “just a flu” kill tens of millions of people? Well COVID-19 is the 21st Century Spanish flu. The flu has reared its head as pandemics several times over the past 100 years. They have just been less deadly. If you understand why the Spanish flu was deadly you can comprehend the COVID-19 problem
I also cringe when the current COVID-19 vaccines as dismissed as “experimental”. As if “Big Pharma” just concocted a water and vitamin mix and “paid off” the WHO or FDA to get approval. The currently APPROVED vaccines have passed through PHASE 3 TRIALS i.e. the stage where the vaccine was tested on ten of thousands of trial participants to which efficacy was found to be very high. On further assessment, the FDA or WHO gave those vaccines “EMERGENCY” use authorization. As yet MOST of those approved vaccines have not been SPECIFICALLY been tested on children or pregnant women but they have not be found to be specifically susceptible to the virus. That why the vaccines are not MANDATORY. It is a choice for anyone including children and pregnant women to take the vaccine.
I also blame some of the medical professional on some of the messaging but some people are only processing certain information to reinforce their NEGATIVITY BIAS to towards the vaccine. All a vaccine does is present the immune system a safe way to recognize the virus. Far safer than if that immunity was acquired on actual exposure to the virus it self. The vaccine doesn’t stay in the body per se, it is the acquired immunity that persists. This persistence is prolonged after the second dose. Immunity also depends on the virus and the way the vaccine presents the virus. So using this understand, someone can still catch the virus it is just that the odds of spreading and develop severe symptoms are DRAMATICALLY low. The immune system knows what to look for very soon after the person is infected with the live virus. A vaccine is not a forcefield where virions are destroyed on contact. The immune system does not work that way. This is how flu shots\boosters work to protect persons from those minor flu variants.
I listened to Brass Tacks on both occasions Hal Gollop spoke. The questions I have are.
1) How far can an employer ensure a safe system of work. I am thinking that insisting employees take a vaccine \ drug MAY be
crossing that line. I am thinking guidance can be taken from the stance on other vaccines. In my mind since the MOH has declared the COVID-19 vaccines not MANDATORY, the employer would be on shaky ground to demand MANDATORY taking of the COVID 19 vaccine.
2) Also with the limited supply of vaccines how would an employer handle a state where employees DO want the vaccine but only some where able to be vaccinated. Some of those employees may be irritated where after you demand my insistence to a vaccine how can you allow unvaccinated employees to continue to work. .Should the employer put those unvaccinated workers on leave until they get vaccinated?
@David June 11, 2021 8:58 AM
As far as I am concerned, the whole Advisory Board needs to be disbanded. They have done nothing but constantly miss the ball.
This virus is simple to deal with,
1) Mandate all people with any type of flu like symptoms stay home, not go to work and avoid crowded places.
2) Send an early treatment protocol recommendation to all BAMP members. They can take their from from this wonderful site that has consolidated every successful early intervention in one place complete with references. http://covidoutpatientcare.com/
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@David June 11, 2021 9:06 AM
Simple, we tell them we have health privacy here and inform them that if you have been vaccinated, you have nothing to worry about or you can stay home.
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Or they Can pat more for the special services
The airports are already loaded
Everythung seems to be back ti normal except everyone is still wearing masks
Do they insist that all the airline , tsa etc people be vaccinated?
If I fly to Barbados I have to follow rules as per testing for COVID before I can mingle with family or the general public, what rules are in place for tourists arriving on cruise ships?
@Disgusting Lies & Propaganda TV June 11, 2021 9:24 AM
I cringe at how many would not be dead now if hydroxychloroquine effectiveness had not been blocked, ridiculed and denied by stupid people with narrow political agendas.
FYI, Most people who died from the Spanish did not die from the flu virus but from secondary bacterial infections. Antibiotics were not around yet. If the 1918 flu had occurred today, the death toll would not have been that high because we now have the understanding to treat possible secondary bacterial infection.
Don’t you understand many in the medical fraternity have figured out how to treat COVID since May/June 2020 but they have great difficulty to get the word out because all focus is on vaccines.
@ Analyzer even if using YOUR “explanation” for the deaths from Spanish Flu, it is would have been a causal factor. Medical advancements NOW (and after the experience of the Spanish flu and other pandemics) would have reduced the deaths from the Spanish flu. But in a modern world we are still affected by flu outbreaks. COVID-19 is literally not a disease cause by an influenza virus. It is a coronavirus variant. COVID-19 will become the coronavirus equivalent to “the flu”. Flu viruses mutate, some become prevalent, booster shots are developed to combat them, the immune system develops an immunity to that variant.
A Prayer for Comm(Unity)
@David, what exactly will be tested in court!
How will the employer be “liable” if the comp. is effectively complying with a directive of the government … at least that will surely be a line of argument!
I agree that an individual should have the right to REFUSE the vaccination and can test his/her decision right up to (or after) any possible termination … but again what exactly is being adjudicated (rhetorical) …
As the two legal views noted there is settled precedent re collective/individual rights and a govt’s emergency legislative power/statutes can further completely trump the personal will in cases of a pandemic national threat.
I disagree with @Critical on his stance re use of ‘hydrox’ as no hindsight analysis has validated how effective that would have been in mass usage… so to suggest it would have saved all those lives is absolutely not in concert with evidence from the many trials done (and some aborted). It showed efficacy with some people, yes indeed …. and some covid patients also DIED after using it.
I agree with him tho re “…we tell them we have health privacy here and inform them that if you have been vaccinated, you have nothing to worry about or you can stay home.”
All the folks on that cruise were reported as ‘fully vaccinated” … yet 2 tested positive…. in sum, our hotel/service industry workers still have the onus on THEMSELVES to use all the safety protocols regardless.
They – unvaccinated- can do LESS harm to a vaccinated visitor than the traveler can do to them !
I gone.
“Two passengers aboard the cruise ship Celebrity Millennium tested positive for COVID yesterday. This is the vessel that was in Barbados earlier this week”
i posted my comment and did not even realize the ship was already on the island.
Don’t know who these people think they are, but the Black population better be looking out for own their health and starting looking at alternatives other than working in a nonproductive tourism industry…AND DETER THEIR CHILDREN FROM EVER GETTING INVOLVED, there are tens of thousands of viable alternatives out there..
DavidJune 11, 2021 9:06 AM
You will note the blog predicted we will see the usual characters with narrow agendas shelling out the usual. So far has anyone responded to the current challenge to repeat. How does a tourism dependent country deal with the fact some visitors are asking to be accommodated and served by employees who are vaccinated?
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Did not Mia say many hands make for light work
When questioned about the size of her cabinet and the longgated attachments of Consultants
So why then are u proposing that a country should figure out these unheard problems
My question to Mia what purpose is having these many hands if the work is too hard for them to solve
Govt took upon itself once again to bolt out of the stable wearing double blinders
One would have belive that govt would have pursued policies with legal apparatus that would not have doubt or unanswerable questions on this issue
Foolish Questions 101
Will these “fully vaccinated staff only” demanding tourist be spending their dollars exclusively with all inclusive properties?
Does this demand extend to the all attractions and activities available and offered to tourists?
Will hoteliers requiring fully vaccinated staff, guarantee a Covid free experience to their fully vaccinated guests?
How long will it take before the “fully vaccinated country” requirement makes an appearance?
David
I wait to see if more than 2 out of 600 people on board, with 95% fully vaccinated, tests positive. If the 2 (who share the same room) are the only positive cases and both experience mild symptoms, then that augurs well for the vaccines’ efficacy against being re-infected and being gravely if re-infected.
@enuff
An interesting development, we need to hear more.
Critical Analyzer, the right-wing nut still believes he knows more than all the experts.
Yeah, and Trump won the election.
That should be enough to dun up his credibility.
MiaVirass19 can’t wait to launder to get back to laundering money and land , the Banks are on alert, BBDLP just cant wait to go to Jail, We shall seek every means to tag and bags these lowlife Ministers and lawyers, They will need to send a full empty plane with 2 floors for them all! MiaVirass19 better find all they signed for and all the numbers and money better add up,135 years in Jail sounds nice! she can take her father and brother also!
Mask + social distancing = enuff
If You are vaccinated then You have more than enuff protection if you follow the above protocols / the unvacxinated person follow the protocols.
There is no need for special treatment
Just follow the protocols always
@Donna June 11, 2021 4:10 PM
I would much prefer you to call me a libertarian nut (Definition: https://www.libertarianism.org/what-is-a-libertarian)
Also be extremely careful what you say about me being a right-wing nut for my unusual views because you will most likely have to eat those words and I would not want you to choke trying to swallow them when you are forced to admit my genius before the end of the year.
I follow the entire science, not the cherry-picked science most people do. I first seek to read and understand the science, come up with my questions and research their answers. Have you done any of that or do you swallow every word the CMO, WHO, CDC and FDA tell you without question.
ONLY WHITE PEOPLE LIVES MATTER.
I rest my case.
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Another newbie,
https://www.nationnews.com/2021/06/11/btmi-appoints-interim-chief-executive-office/
BTMI issues statement after 2 Celebrity Millennium passengers test positive for COVID
https://www.nationnews.com/2021/06/11/btmi-issues-statement-2-celebrity-millennium-passengers-test-positive-covid/
COVID-19 UPDATE: No new cases, 18 in isolation: https://barbadostoday.bb/2021/06/11/covid-19-update-no-new-cases-18-in-isolation/
Dr Pierre Kory, pulmonary and critical care specialist, explains why Ivermectin will not be allowed to be an effective treatment for Covid-19(84). Dr Kory: “It’s not about the data. There is something else. There is that thing that we can see and feel out there that is just squashing, distorting, suppressing the efficacy of Ivermectin, and it’s egregious.”
The above video is a short extract from a longer interview posted at covid19criticalcare(DOT)com/videos-and-press/flccc-releases/covid-ivermectin-and-the-crime-of-the-century-podcast-with-dr-pierre-kory/
Extract from Dr Kory’s bio:
Pierre Kory is the former Chief of the Critical Care Service and Medical Director of the Trauma and Life Support Center at the University of Wisconsin. He is considered one of the world pioneers in the use of ultrasound by physicians in the diagnosis and treatment of critically ill patients. He helped develop and run the first national courses in Critical Care Ultrasonography in the U.S., and served as a Director of these courses with the American College of Chest Physicians for several years. He is also the senior editor of the most popular textbook in the field titled “Point of Care Ultrasound,” now in its 2nd edition and that has been translated into 7 languages worldwide. He has led over 100 courses nationally and internationally, teaching physicians this now-standard skill in his specialty.
Dr. Kory was also one of the U.S. pioneers in the research, development, and teaching of performing therapeutic hypothermia to treat post-cardiac arrest patients. In 2005, his hospital was the first in New York City to begin regularly treating patients with therapeutic hypothermia. He then served as an expert panel member for New York City’s Project Hypothermia, a collaborative project between the Fire Department of New York and Emergency Medical Services. This project created cooling protocols within a network of 44 regional hospitals – along with a triage and transport system that directed patients to centers of excellence in hypothermia treatment – of which his hospital was one of the first.
Known as a Master Educator, Dr. Kory has won numerous departmental and divisional teaching awards in every hospital he has worked. He has delivered hundreds of courses and invited lectures throughout his career.
Continued at: covid19criticalcare(DOT)com/about/flccc-alliance-contributions-to-the-field-of-medicine/
Is it appropriate to modify the name of the dreaded disease Covid-19 to Covid-19(84), as in my post above? I report; you decide.
Techno-Tyranny: How The US National Security State Is Using Coronavirus To Fulfill An Orwellian Vision
Last year, a government commission called for the US to adopt an AI-driven mass surveillance system far beyond that used in any other country in order to ensure American hegemony in artificial intelligence. Now, many of the “obstacles” they had cited as preventing its implementation are rapidly being removed under the guise of combating the coronavirus crisis.
BY WHITNEY WEBB MAY 4, 2020
Also benefiting from the coronavirus crisis is the concept of “smart cities,” with Forbes recently writing that “Smart cities can help us combat the coronavirus pandemic.” That article states that “Governments and local authorities are using smart city technology, sensors and data to trace the contacts of people infected with the coronavirus. At the same time, smart cities are also helping in efforts to determine whether social distancing rules are being followed.”
That article in Forbes also contains the following passage:
“…[T]he use of masses of connected sensors makes it clear that the coronavirus pandemic is–intentionally or not–being used as a testbed for new surveillance technologies that may threaten privacy and civil liberties. So aside from being a global health crisis, the coronavirus has effectively become an experiment in how to monitor and control people at scale.”
https://unlimitedhangout.com/2020/05/reports/techno-tyranny-how-the-us-national-security-state-is-using-coronavirus-to-fulfill-an-orwellian-vision/
Steupse!
Congratulations to our government headed by our Supreme Leader Mia Mottley! No new cases of Wuhan Snuff. Only 18 cases left in isolation Very good.
So we can soon convert the isolation wards into internment camps for opposition doctors and others who dispute the efficacy of the vaccine doses administered by our government.
@ peterlawrencethompson June 11, 2021 7:20 AM
COVID19 is statistically fatal for people under 70 only if they are obese. When people are too fat, they are so by choice, because they are committed to gluttony.
It is not the state’s job to hold an entire society hostage for the fact that a certain part of the population cannot control its gluttony. It would be far more economical if we subjected the overly fat part of society to a compulsory diet of hard work, exercise and food deprivation.
A cruise liner having two Covid patients on board recently docked on Barbados shores
Not a fellow detected that on board were two Covid infected people until the ship sailed out of Barbados
Baje what a stupid stupid comment…..you think I want to jump behind the bar and make my own drinks.
Ivor Cummins:
“The title says it all. So many people know that what is occurring with lockdowns and masks makes no sense whatsoever – but cannot understand WHY the whole world has gone mad in unison. Here in this short version of a superb documentary, is a big part of the reason.”
Best Geopolitical Documentary Ever to Explain the Why? of Coronavirus (30min)
odysee(DOT)com/@IvorCummins:f/Best-Geopolitical-Documentary-Ever—Explains-Near-Everything-720:9
The above link is to an abbreviated 30min version of the longer 52min documentary THENEWNORMAL which can be viewed here: https://happen.network/
SOURCE: NATION NEWS
Despite what the Minister says about “protocols” it is not clear whether the restrictions in place for those arriving via airlines are the same for tourists arriving by cruise ship.
@Sargeant
Information around the revised COVID protocol for arriving cruise ship visitors is still being worked out. The visit on Monday was a pilot run of sorts that operated in some kind of bubble. Minister Kirk Humphrey touched on it briefly in an interview with David Ellis a few days ago.
I have full confidence in our Supreme Leader and General Bosstic when it comes to the so-called Wuhan Snuff. Our government has so far managed the crisis brilliantly, while the opposition is calling for the apocalyptic horsemen.
In the next elections in 2030, the people will certainly confirm government.
Nobody wants to hear minister input
His influence in Maritime issues are zero
Under his watch the reefs were destroyed
Hard to believe he had any input on the Cruise Industry decisions or even any input on the protocols necessary for them to enter Barbados waters
Fact being the evidence now shows a Covid infected cruise ship entered Barbados waters docked in the ports and passengers were allowed to disembark without govt detection or intervention
Minister bobbled head is clueless
Cox,
you act as if the Wuhan cold is a fatal disease. The fact is that in our country all vulnerable people have been vaccinated for a long time. Those who will still contract the disease and come to hospital have – in 90 % of all remaining cases – only themselves to blame, because they are either too fat or smoke. The remaining 10 % are unfortunate happenings.
Life must now go on as normal. We need several hundred thousand tourists on the island again from Oc. 2021 on. I therefore urgently recommend that all critical doctors who, contrary to scientific findings, dramatise the dangerousness of the Wuhan snuff for younger people be imprisoned. Our Corona emergency laws allow this with ease.
Vincentian Minister refusing to see unvaccinated people
https://www.nationnews.com/2021/06/12/vincentian-minister-refusing-see-unvaccinated-people/
I speak with precision pointed observation concluding that Minister Kirk is a clueless bobblehead assign to a job of which he knows nothing about
A job which requires specific training and specialized school in the field of environmental details having to do with land sea and air
Putting a boy to do a man’s job always end in catastrophy as with the case of Kirk involvement
I would hold him to his recent remarks about engaging with the cruise line industry seeking compensation for the reefs
DavidJune 12, 2021 1:05 PM
Vincentian Minister refusing to see unvaccinated people
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Utter rubbish
He as a servant of the people has a right of duty to attend the needs of the people first and foremost
If he feels uncomfortable then he should resign his post
Small island idiot politicians in their uppity negro mode as usual.
WURA-War-on-UJune 12, 2021 2:51 PM
Small island idiot politicians in their uppity negro mode as usual
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These banana republic clowns tek the populace fuh clowns
Imagine he talking that crap in other international countries
A bunch of clowns wearing crowns
Our Supreme Leader continues to conqueror de roughest seas to date……Who calling, who calling? Souse n clean breadfruit, no humongous hog tails n it…Who calling🐖🐖?
Mia fuh life don’t make no strife 🎼🎹🎸🎤Mia fuh life don’t make no strife 🎸🎼🎤🎹🇧🇧
Grynner, Grynner, Mia fuh lifeeeeeeeeeeee…🥁🪘🎺🎺
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“With an investment of $2 700 you get $21 000 on the C11 platform and it is legitimate and has been going for over a year. So what is the reason for lumping all circles together?” the businesswoman asked.
“There are four stages before being ‘blessed out’ on the C11 platform. Therefore, just like a pay day at the office, it comes at a certain time and there is nothing to suggest that your money is gone if you have not yet been blessed out . . . . There is generally a three-month wait,” he said.
Admitting that some other circles had failed “for one reason or another”, Michael said some segments of society seemed bent on targeting blessing circles.
Put in $2.7K and get back 8 times the amount in a “3 month wait”.. A scam anywhere.
“By Tony Best Barbados, which relies heavily on its offshore financial services sector to raise government revenue to finance its economic and social development, is unlikely to face any overnight danger of being forced out of the global competitive investment markets by a proposed global minimum tax on corporate profits.”
This is a partial answer to a question I asked previously. However, the general response is …. this will not impact on us immediately as it will take some time for a global minimum tax to be implemented.
The question “if implemented, how will this affect us?” remains unanswered.
We know how it will effect us, it is a no brainer.
Precisely!
Don’t tell me how it will effect you, tell me how it will affect you. That is the brainer..
Share the answers.
Let us make it simple, if companies domiciled in Barbados have to immediately pay a flat rate of 15% it will decimate the sector, a cadre of well paid professionals who depend on the sector will be on the bread line. There is the indirect impact to tourism, restaurants, rental properties, rental cars etc.
Armed with wo strategies
(1) Attempt to ridicule
(2) Attempt to silence
and two answers
(1) The other guys did it too,
(2) It happens elsewhere
There are several ways of bringing matters that are not fully ventilated into further discussion.
Here we had the G7 embarking on a policy that could have a great impact on tax-havens and off-shore banking centers. And to the best of my knowledge, just one BU contributor (VC) hinted at the implications for Barbados. Then there was this article above, which, instead of laying out the stark reality provided a reason why the impact on Barbados would not be immediate (the slow pace of negotiations).
Having this hard cold fact come from one side of the fence may serve to wake up some 9(today). It would be good if we start thinking about this problem and possible solution from today and not act surprise when things begin to fall apart.
@David, bro u got me kerfuffulled with “Let us make it simple, if companies domiciled in Barbados have to immediately pay a flat rate of 15% it will decimate the sector, a cadre of well paid professionals who depend on the sector will be on the bread line”
I use ur informed comments to step into these debates and ur “tone” can be perplexing at times.
1.Are u really saying that a financial services company will ALLOW an imposition of 15c on the $1 to implode their business! Fah real.
They ‘does’ STUDY and FINESSE money management, RIGHT!
2.Are you further saying that the supposed GLOBAL imposition will impact Bim comps more significantly than all its competitors all bout de place!
3.And are you then also further saying that this highfalutin worldwide tax will be actually EFFECTED so legally and operationally well that companies will NOT find ways to expense their way around it!
Excuse me for being cynical, bro but I have paid little attention to Biden and his fellow leaders hype on this matter as I simply cannot see it being effectively achieved.
This is a high-wire political walk by the G7 folks which is sweet sounding hype likely to be either still born or so under weight at birth that it endures the life of an undernourished weakling.
But either way, as former Director Cox said: “It is going to be very difficult to negotiate such an agreement and implement it. It is going to take time, perhaps years, to negotiate it.”
So let’s rejoin this matter a few years on … we can study and be alert steadfastly till den and likely watch the baby get aborted in that hostile US Senate … an additional 15% tax eh … OK …. let’s also look first closely at the corporate welfare that is enriching these financial services corps and that recent reminder of how billionaires AVOID the incidence of taxation so effectively.
A major issue … nope. A bother to be avoided and finessed, yes!
@Dee Word
Educate yourself.
Trust the science…NOT THE EXPERIMENT…..that is the stage it’s STILL AT..
and only the very ignorant STILL DON’T KNOW….that you are just as likely to pass the virus on and die from it yaself…even if you are FULLY VACCINATED…
..it’s the MUTATING VARIANTS STUPID…and yall done know how yall love to let every half assed tourist in just for a few dollars…and most of them will be CARRIERS.
Great article, David! Everything in nutshell!
David, I get it that the leaders are trying to squeeze the multinationals to pay more tax from off-shore operations like those in Bim and how that can ‘encourage’ said companies to repatriate, thus squeezing us … all clear.
I am simply CYNICAL that it will be IMPLEMENTED.
I call it a bother at this point because there will be LOTS of finessing and bare knuckled lobbying to stop this ‘bill’ … the US Senate will be hyper actively lobbied undoubtedly.
Furthermore, let’s recognize that a positive of the pandemic has been the awareness of how awesome ‘Welcome Stamp’ business operations can be … or said differently: corporations can see big benefits of keeping operations in remote locations.
The proof of this bill will be how effectively it’s written so let’s await those details and THEN too let’s await the political fights.
We have a long gestation yet on this and even then seems to me there are programs countries like Bim can adopt to keep many of their multinationals happy in managing their tax incidence… they will need to be super creative/practical (legally) to push back on the OECD etc.
From BT (by MM)
“Persaud explained that one of the measures Barbados took to counter the “shifting goal post” in recent times was to change the corporate tax rate to allow both local and international firms to pay on a sliding scale of between one and five per cent.
However, with the US engaging G20 nations to agree on a global minimum corporate tax rate, Persaud said the time had come to “move to a different playing field” as they seek to shift the goal post.
“The next thing we need to do is to actually make sure that businesses are headquartered here. America and the UK may decide to have a global minimum tax rate. That is currently being debated. Now, they can decide how they tax a Barbadian subsidiary of a British company, but they cannot determine how they tax a Barbados-headquartered company. So we need to bring these companies to Barbados to do real business in Barbados and be headquartered here,” he explained.
Persaud said in order to attract the businesses, several things must be done including training and certification of individuals to provide high-level skills, greater use of advanced technology and an improvement in the doing business climate
Allow me to compliment Persaud on acknowledging the oncoming problems and (though early, as some suggest) beginning to think of a way out of the increasing maze.. He could have (1) completely ignored the looming problem (2) acknowledge it bus as some are suggesting … Kicking the can down the road or (3) wish for a ‘Hail Mary pass’ similar to PLT’s welcome stamp suggestion.
It is a no-brainer (my new favorite phrase) that at some stage we are competing against IFCs from all over the world. In same way that we saw the welcome stamp idea being implemented in other countries the suggestion of making “sure these companies are headquartered here” will be implemented elsewhere. He has also pointed out that we must consider “training and certification of individuals to provide high-level skills, greater use of advanced technology and an improvement in the doing business climate”.
I highlighted his contribution, because it begins to show the depth of thinking that is (not will be) required. We must walk and chew gum at the same time. i do not believe it is any more difficult than walking and kicking the can down the road. The future begins now.
Was just reading that, don’t know why the hell these nuisance lawyers like to push Black people into being oppressed…frauds…they need to shut up if they don’t know what they are talking about and STOP ROBBING CLIENTS..
“Workers in Barbados are protected by the Employment (Prevention of Discrimination) Act, which, among other things, prohibits discrimination on the grounds of a person’s medical condition. Additionally, employers are prohibited from requiring a person to be tested for a medical condition either as a precondition for entering into a contract of employment or as a condition for continuing employment. This prohibition is subject to if the test or knowledge of a medical condition is required because of what is called a genuine occupational qualification.”
(Quote):
“The next thing we need to do is to actually make sure that businesses are headquartered here. America and the UK may decide to have a global minimum tax rate. That is currently being debated. Now, they can decide how they tax a Barbadian subsidiary of a British company, but they cannot determine how they tax a Barbados-headquartered company. So we need to bring these companies to Barbados to do real business in Barbados and be headquartered here,” he explained. (Unquote).
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If only this same ‘slick-tongue’ salesman of dreams had secured those investors to complete the Four Seasons project there would be many villas ready and available at ‘Paradise’ to accommodate the expatriate staff to manage those HQs of the multi-national corporations.
From one hotpot of hotel bullshit to another full of pipedreams.
If Barbados cannot even get its own local business environment sorted to make the public service function effectively (except for the Immigration Dept now under TQM) how on earth can it expect to service the headquarters of international brand name companies on a 24/7 basis?
Coronavirus cases rise in places with high vaccination, fall in places with low vaccination rates – The Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/06/14/covid-cases-vaccination-rates/
@ david
Don’t think for a minute they are not ways around that 15% tax but using ” other non associated ” companies to handle the invoicing and such like. Biden is no Trump when it comes to business that much we know already.
@John A
What are you saying? Hope you are not perpetuating the notion Barbados is a tax avoidance domicile.
@ david
You know the difference between tax avoidance and tax evasion?
One legal and the other is a result of poor accounting and legal advise. .LOL
Like cricket you must know where the crease is and put you toe on it but never get caught outside it. If they move the crease then just move you toe.
@John A
It is why the blogmaster deliberately used the term tax avoidance because developed countries (OECD) lump the two together.
@ David
As long as you keep within the IAP rules for accounting they can do what they have to do and you can do what you need to do. Yes they will keep moving and playing with the “rules” they make up from one day to another, but they are basic International Accounting Practices that ALL companies are bound by.
If you think a government got better tax advisors and legal teams than Google or Amazon trust me you wrong. Trump new this and decided not to fight it. Biden has now to learn it. He does not understand the corporate world as he is a career politician, but if he tries to tamper with it they will send him a message. Dont get too worried about the coughs and splutters from the politicians. The companies way ahead of them.
@John A
Who are heavily influential in formulating these accounting rules?
@ David
The problem comes because you can not have 2 sets of globally acceptable accounting rules, one for offshore and one for onshore. So All companies must use the same practices. So knowing that the government’s then say we’ll we want the same tax structure then. That though is left to the domicile countries like here and the clients we hold to decide.
I agree with the PM 100 PERCENT on the road she took as she can not be accused of offering any special treatment to offshore companies. Her approach is ” all of we is one ” and look at what happened, her corporation tax even at the lower rate increased.
No government can push around companies like amazon or Google. They will simply as Tony Best implied, tell them well we will move our head office. The loss from them doing that can cripple states where they are located. The days of being able to push around companies is over and Biden and all need to learn that. All the offshore countries have to do as a group is stand united and tell the Bidens of the world as the PM did, this is our tax rate to all regardless of where they are from. Once the companies see that they will take the fight from there. You ain’t see what fellows like Tesla tell them? We can move to anywhere !
Regarding the last part of your comment you know this will never happen. Bermuda, Cayman, Gurnsey and others all have their strings being pulled by the hegemonist.
SOURCE: NATION NEWS
SOURCE: NATION NEWS
SOURCE: NATION NEWS
It is reported that the Barbados economy may be set back TEN to TWENTY years.
The PM has spoken.
Are there other vaccinations that are compulsory?