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Minister Santia Bradshaw in a matter of fact delivery announced at a press briefing yesterday our school children will be returning to the classroom from the 20 April 2021. The expectation is for teachers to return on the 19 April, Class 3 and 4 at primary schools and fifth and sixth formers of secondary schools on the 20 April. The other students will benefit from classroom teaching 3 days and the other 2 days in online class room.

@Pedro Shepherd

It seems some teachers want to hear about monies docked in 2016 by former minister of education Ronald Jones. The following was received in the blogmaster’s inbox.

I understand the Ministry of Education is to pay back the money docked from teachers in 2016.

Teachers should have been informed about this. I would like the BUT to explain that to me today self. My money can’t afford to sleep out. I want back every cent of mine.

Mr. Shepherd and Ronald Jones were at war back then. I remember. People like me got caught up in it. By the time I recognised it was all a fight between them my pay was docked. Now they are friendsing in the DLP. But my money still tied up. 

Is your mouth tied up too, Mr. Shepherd? Right now you could talk chalk. I am not interested unless you tell me about my $350 first.

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90 responses to “School to Open, Teachers Want Back Pay”

  1. David Avatar
    David

    BUT against wholesale return to school
    Not all the decisions made regarding the phased reopening of schools next month will be supported by at least one of the teachers’ unions.
    President of the Barbados Union of Teachers (BUT) Pedro Shepherd said they agreed that students taking the Barbados Secondary Schools Entrance Examination (BSSEE) or the Common Entrance and Caribbean Examination Council tests should have time extra time to prepare inperson.
    However, he said they did not think it was safe for all teachers and ancillary staff to return on April 19.
    “We were prepared to accept the return of the Class 4 students to take the Common Entrance and to have the fifth and sixth formers at the secondary level return and have their face-to-face sessions before their exams. Those were things we agreed on to some extent.
    “But to make the statement that all teachers should report to work on that day is not what the union was in support of. We were saying four to six weeks before the Common Entrance was a good time and that would put us around late May because the Common Entrance was slated for July,” Shepherd said.
    He made these comments yesterday after Minister of Education Santia Bradshaw delivered a post-Cabinet Ministerial Statement during a national press conference.
    Bradshaw announced that all teachers would return on April 19 and on April 20, Class 3, Class 4 and Fifth and Sixth form students would return. She, however, said they were not prepared to give a new date for the Common Entrance which was postponed from its usual May date and proposed for July 20.
    Shepherd, who supported the exam’s initial postponement, however, reiterated their stance that schools should not fully resume before
    September, by when more people would have received both vaccination shots. (TG)

    Source: Nation

  2. David Avatar
    David

    Vaccination programme extended
    The first phase of Barbados’ first-ever National Vaccine Programme has been extended so more of the country’s teaching complement can be vaccinated.
    Coordinator of the programme, Major David Clarke said on Wednesday that while a number of people were inoculated with the AstraZeneca vaccine, the next two days would be used to continue vaccinations for the education sector.
    “We were able to vaccinate more than 1 500 teachers since last week but we are now waiting on a shortlist from the Ministry of Education for the sector, which will include teachers and auxiliary staff,” he said.
    He said that by weekend when those vaccinations are completed, the first phase of the programme would come to an end.
    Barbados started its vaccinations with AstraZeneca, a gift from the Government of India, early last month. So far, 61 781 people have been vaccinated – 25 751 men and 36 030 women. Clarke said in spite of the issues with long lines at vaccination centres where hundreds turned up to be inoculated, some without appointments, they were satisfied with
    how the programme as a whole had been completed.
    Some hesitancy
    “The programme has gone very well, when you look at how many Barbadians have been vaccinated. We did have our issues and there was some hesitancy at the beginning, but overall Barbadians’ acceptance of the need of the vaccine was seen,” he said.
    Clarke advised that individuals who were registered to get their first shot in this phase, but were not fortunate enough to be accommodated, would be prioritised when Barbados starts the second phase of the programme.
    He said their information was entered in the system and there would be no issues with getting them appointments once Barbados rolls out the second doses.
    Earlier this week, the programme’s other coordinator, Dr Elizabeth Ferdinand, confirmed that the second shots of AstraZeneca should start being administered around April 17 or just before.
    Barbados was originally scheduled to vaccinate around 50 000 people in the first phase, but the ability of public health officials to extract additional doses from the vials of the drug allowed the number to surpass 60 000 inoculations.
    (BA)

    Source: Nation

  3. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    David
    What the 350 dollars got to do wid the going back to school edit?

  4. David Avatar
    David

    @Pacha

    At this point nothing. It just points to one of many latent issues that has the potential to disrupt and there is always the overlap between leaders in the BUT and other entities with the political class.

  5. Disgusting Lies & Propaganda TV Avatar
    Disgusting Lies & Propaganda TV

    Re March 26, 2021 5:14 AM
    “BUT against wholesale return to school
    Not all the decisions made regarding the phased reopening of schools next month will be supported by at least one of the teachers’ unions.
    President of the Barbados Union of Teachers (BUT) Pedro Shepherd said they agreed that students taking the Barbados Secondary Schools Entrance Examination (BSSEE) or the Common Entrance and Caribbean Examination Council tests should have time extra time to prepare in person.
    However, he said they did not think it was safe for all teachers and ancillary staff to return on April 19.”

    @DavidBU the BUT or (perhaps only Pedro Shepherd himself) would really have to qualify it “not being safe”. The Govt of Barbados has EFFECTIVELY brought the pandemic under control using global standards short of achieving “herd immunity”. I’m not seeing a reasonable argument to delay the reopening of schools in some form if the date is April 19. Really the positivity rate would have to be going in the opposite direction to support Pedro Shepherd’s position

  6. David Avatar
    David

    Everybody must take risks except the teachers. It seems they want the perfect scenario to obtain in order to return to work. The reality is that we will lose one year given the disruption and how covid has compromised teaching our children. Online is not the best.

    >

  7. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    David

    Yes but should we not at least err on the side of caution given the known unknowns and the errors made by this and other governments.

  8. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    The Germans are saying that the third wave of Covid will be the worst of all.

  9. lawson Avatar
    lawson

    In my little town of a million people or so there has been 459 covid deaths 402 have been over the age of 70 add another 45 if from 60 years old ..From 1 to thirty years old we have had 0 deaths ..Any body else wondering what is going on. I will be honest it pisses me off teachers get the summer, christmas and easter off, professional development days off the week they start back that there pension plan is one of the biggest around, that they can hold kids for ransom like they are doing now ( the shit product they have been putting out for decades) . when the numbers and science dont back them up. I have more respect for the under paid cashiers, waitresses or front line staff etc that put their safety at risk to make sure we are fed and taken care of. Do what reagan did with the air traffic controllers ….you dont want to work piss off.

  10. Observing Avatar
    Observing

    @David
    In managing risks (as the Minister said) you avoid situation that are NOT NEEDED. Apart from those students taking exams, can anyone point to the NEED for all students to return in what will essentially be a hurried manner???

    I side with Pacha, no need, no rush. The year has been lost so plan properly to make sure that the coming year(s) ease the inevitable and unavoidable problems of the last one.

    And as far as I know, teachers have been working 9 to 3 and beyond the past few months albeit in a virtual environment and yes I confess, I got a horse in the derby so I hear from the horse’s mouth on these matters quite often. lol.

    Just observing

  11. Paula Sealy Avatar
    Paula Sealy

    @David

    We remember former BUT officers like Undene Whittaker and Pedro Shepherd who tried to get into Parliament. And point out who resigned to be Deputy Chief. Or who got put on boards like the last government put Shepherd at Rural. But point out the former ones from the BSTU too. Chief Education Officer Joy Adamsons is a former vice president of the BSTU. Deputy High Commissioner to London Rev. Charles Morris is a former BSTU vice president too.

  12. David Avatar
    David

    @Observing

    How do we define caution? What has/will be the fallout from the compromised online teaching currently in place?

  13. David Avatar
    David

    @Paula Sealy

    Barbados is an incestuous society in every way.

  14. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    Yes but it seems the workers are the ones who have historically gotten the clap when their leaderships slept around with politics.

    David

  15. David Avatar
    David

    @Pacha

    Employees are always at a disadvantage in our system. The fact that it is dysfunctional makes it more of a problem.

    Govt to assess teachers and students – Govt to assess teachers and students: https://barbadostoday.bb/2021/03/26/govt-to-assess-teachers-and-students/

  16. Paula Sealy Avatar
    Paula Sealy

    @David

    https://barbadosunderground.net/2013/01/05/the-alexandra-incestuous-factor/

  17. Observing Avatar
    Observing

    @David
    Have we defined what the real fallout is? Is the solution the one being presented? Have we discussed the compounded fallout from pushing ahead as outlined given the fallout from last year already?

    Totally agree that a discussion needs to be had and it seems based on the unions and sentiment from educators that the problem lies there.

    For me, caution is avoiding what’s not needed until here is certainty. If it’s needed, then by all means take the risks. If not, hold strain.

    Now is a perfect time for real education reform but clearly we are making it a perfect time to advance or return to failed and failing normals.

    Just observing

  18. David Avatar
    David

    @Observing

    Just heard on the 12:30 news preview that union will not be returning to school as outlined by the minister yesterday.

  19. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    Teachers, nurses and police, have to understand that they too are subjected to slave laws and slave codes. Their salaries are always an issue and in dispute, where months and months will pass when they don’t get paid among other serious grievances they are subjected to while minorities HAVE FREE ACCESS TO THEIR TAXES AND PENSION FUND…..this unjust disparity and inequity must end, for it to do so, the teachers, nurses and police will have to say….that’s it and hold black governments ACCOUNTABLE…civil society has all the power it needs to end this discrimination…REASSERT YOUR POWER AND TAKE BACK YOUR LIVES from these small island criminals..

  20. lawson Avatar
    lawson

    dont put teachers in the same bracket as nurses and police very insulting. and why is always a race issue .. Every few years the teachers hold our kids ransom, if you took your car to a garage and it came back with only 3 wheels you would be pissed off. Well thats what they are putting out 3 wheeled kids ,

  21. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Observing,

    This is a good time for reform in general! The people of the world have had time to assess all systems and have found them wanting. They are finally ready for the initial discomfort of meaningful change.

    Why seek to rebuild using a fatally flawed design?

    Better to take the time to rebuild based on our evolved understanding of education!

  22. David Avatar
    David

    Of concern is the discord which is apparent between key stakeholders in the system read the MOE and teacher’s unions. Where does the union of principals stamens? We need to stop!

  23. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    Lawson…ya mixing apples with oranges….Canada and Barbados…

    the people who BENEFIT FROM MONEY STOLEN FROM THE TREAURY AND PENSION FUND…are not Black, that’s why we have to SPECIFY who benefits….the ones who pay taxes work for the state and there is always some dispute about money or they are not getting paid…..always…the governement uses the same wicked tactics on teachers, police and nurses.

    no different to this never ending intent by dirty foreign companies who treat Black security guards like slaves and work overtime to find ways not to pay them…or give them any benefits….the narrative would be different if the island was not known as an enslaving society.

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2021/03/26/g4s-union-rep-accuses-company-of-creating-unstable-work-environment/

    “Less than four months after being accused of trampling on the rights of its employees, a popular security firm is being charged with using underhanded policies that would deny workers the full benefit of a new minimum wage.

    President of the G4S Secure Solutions division of the Barbados Workers’ Union (BWU) Ormond Mayers on Thursday accused management of significantly slashing working hours to as little as 24 hours a week. As a result, he contended that workers, some of whom have over 20 years of service are now going home with as little as $200 per week at $8.79 an hour.

    In an interview with Barbados TODAY on Thursday, Mayers argued that the “unstable” working environment represents a sharp deviation from an agreement reached when Prime Minister Mia Mottley and Minister of Labour and Social Relations Colin Jordan chaired talks between G4S and the BWU late last year. Based on the agreement, workers’ hours could not be reduced to less than 40 per week.”

  24. Lawson Avatar
    Lawson

    That is scandalous 8.79 an hour. I bet teachers aint working for that . My cleaner is 35 cash an hour up here crazy.

  25. Chris Halsall Avatar
    Chris Halsall

    @Larson: “I bet teachers aint working for that.

    Please forgive me for this, but that statement tells me you don’t know for sure. There is a non-zero probability you are mapping a quantum uncertainty field around that statement.

    It has been well documented, the world over, that Teachers do what they do not because of the money (although a sustenance wage would be appreciated) but because they truly love what they do.

    Humans are finite in the temporal domain. Their influence, on the other hand, can live forever.

    E=mc^2 anyone…? 😎

  26. Crusoe Avatar
    Crusoe

    Good teachers in Barbados have secondary income from lessons. Probably much more in some cases than their base pay.

    Ten students twice a week at $30 per hour is $600 week.

    $2,400 extra a month is not bad for 8 hours more per week, in the pocket.

    And that is conservative.

  27. Crusoe Avatar
    Crusoe

    Nurses can do private work too.

    And yuh wonder why Police moonlight?

  28. Lawson Avatar
    Lawson

    Chris okay waru was correct I may be mixing apples with oranges canada and barbados…The largest proffessional pension fund in canada is the ontario teachers union invested all over the world , you dont get that big without dues and the bigger the salaries the bigger the dues.
    The teachers in barbados I doubt are working for 8.79 an hour, to make that deduction you just have to look at what goes on in teacher unions around the world, Since barbados seems to copy everything from abroad why would you be any different
    I notice 1500 teachers have been vaccinated ?? have all frontline workers been
    What does a teacher make there am I wrong
    Gone are the days of the slide rule my friend the human brain may be finite but two thumbs and a phone can calculate pretty near anything you want, there I go again not knowing for sure.

  29. Lest we forget Avatar
    Lest we forget

    BSTU is more aggressive fighting for members than BUT. Do not blame the BUT alone. The BSTU said they are not in favour of going back to school and you can bet they are not going back. Therefore it cannot be a political issue where Mary Redman could be considered more aligned with this government. It is a safety issue

  30. Lest we forget Avatar
    Lest we forget

    Teachers are always under fire about vacation and lesson money.Most teachers do not do lessons for money.A teacher as a citizen has to pay heavily for all services rendered by technical persons from plumbers to mechanics and the charges are high. An electrician charges $130 per point, that means in half an hour he makes that money for putting on a switch.

  31. Chris Halsall Avatar
    Chris Halsall

    @Larson: “Gone are the days of the slide rule my friend the human brain may be finite but two thumbs and a phone can calculate pretty near anything you want…

    I hear you. I truly do.

    I tried hard to mentor a young person recently on how cool it was to code. The same young person was only interested in ensuring the new “kit” his parents were going to buy them had the latest GPU capable of 120 Hz refresh rate, and a monitor to match.

    I call it “The New Dark Ages”. Seriously. 8-(

  32. David Avatar
    David

    Redman has to go with the prevailing position of her membership, notwithstanding a personal position.

  33. Lawson Avatar
    Lawson

    130 a point I am moving to barbados lol. It isnt just a switch before the floor is poured look at all the conduit that is laid from the panel to that switch , but it is a good analogy the main difference being.. between the electrician and teacher is when you compare the finished products of each ….at least the light goes on in the electricians

  34. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    David
    You cant really believe that. For it would make Redman’s union a democratic organization. That has not been our experience.

  35. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    Union strongmen like Frank Walcott, Leroy Trotman etc were for all intents and purposes no less dictatorial than all the prime ministers we’ve had.

  36. Disgusting Lies & Propaganda TV Avatar
    Disgusting Lies & Propaganda TV

    DavidMarch 26, 2021 5:14 AM
    “But to make the statement that all teachers should report to work on that day is not what the union was in support of. We were saying four to six weeks before the Common Entrance was a good time and that would put us around late May because the Common Entrance was slated for July,” Shepherd said.”

    This just makes Pedro Shepherd position even less logical in light of the facts. What is the essential difference between a April 19/20 restart date and a Late May start when the positivity rate was going on a downward slope from mid February? Other aspects of the economy and the society have be RELAXED from lockdowns throughout Barbados in March 2021 and the positivity rate ONLY continued to go down. I would have thought the greater time between late April to July would be beneficial. I think the more useful discussion would be whether to even have the BSSCEE at all this year when the education system was crippled for 12 months.

    Let us not beat around the bush, there is obvious unnecessary politicking (politricking) going on here. I remembered when there was concerned about the silence from the Minister, the Ministry and the GOB regarding face to face teaching. The silence was most likely due to the “wait and see” approach regarding COVID-19 community spread. Now the “problem” is that it is not safe. THE TEACHERS UNIONS WOULD HAVE TO PRESENT A COMPELLING CASE TO FURTHER DELAY PARTIAL RESUMPTION OF FACE TO FACE TEACHING.

  37. David Avatar
    David

    The positivity declining must have a relationship to reduced numbers from outside especially the UK? Also the question must be what physical and other prep work is required to secure the safety of all on the school compound.

  38. Chris Halsall Avatar
    Chris Halsall

    @DL&P_TV: “Let us not beat around the bush, there is obvious unnecessary politicking (politricking) going on here.

    I have learnt (the hard way) that politics matters.

    Something I heard on the BBC a few months ago which I hadn’t actually internalized (as a “non-breeder”) is how important it is for young people to interact in “meat space”.

    Those of us (read: the older folks) who have gone through that and are comfortable dealing with abstracted bits might not have any problem with this delta.

    But some of our young haven’t yet been taught that it doesn’t matter what your friend is doing right now (for example, playing a game). What matters is what one produces. Now.

    Sorry for being a bit extreme. I’m finding myself in that mode lately…

  39. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @David, the union stance is as usual more political than practical to the good of their students and society overall….

    Alas none of the teachers’ groups (even up north) appear keen to get back into classrooms … we can surmise endlessly on the reasons.

    Two other quick notes…

    1.The matter of ***”Online is not the best”**** is understandable but yet there is much room for debate on how effective it CAN be in many cases.

    There are children who have surely THRIVED this last year … I am thinking of those who were introverted and-or bothered by bullies/peer pressure; those who were disruptive because they were buoyed by said peers and acted the ‘fool’s too often; those who were too distracted by pubescent issues and so on.

    One can only hope that this last year opens up the teaching/instruction model and allows more purposeful use of online teaching…

    One thing fah sure: the scenario of being suspended from school for bad behaviour is absolutely no longer a few days of chilling on de block… now yah backside gotta be in class by laptop. So at least that level of puerile mis-behaviour should be reduced, right . 😎🙈 NOT!

    And 2… off topic.

    Months ago you spoke of the vaccine purchase (or lack of) by the then admin and I retorted that it was a non issue as soon another 1 (J & J at the time) or 2 more pharma co’s would be on stream with their product and thus all requirements would be basically met…

    All that to say so here we are .. with a twist!

    A NYT’s report highlights that US will soon have 400 mil vaccines for there 330 approx pop … so how to manage the supposed looming surplus ?

    Or is there really a ‘surplus’ considering there may need to be a third (or for the J&J patients a 2nd) booster shot if these variants become prevalent ?

    But of course, not all US citizens will take the vaccine… with a likely 60% or 70% usage there definitely appears to be more vaccines than patients to inject in US.

    So will there now be more medical geo-politics with vaccines given to friendly nations … a task much, much easier to say on paper than actually to do smoothly !

    We are in for a lots of vaccine dramatics fah sure.

    I gone.

  40. Chris Halsall Avatar
    Chris Halsall

    @de pedantic Dribbler: Please understand that when you radiate into a channel you either introduce signal, or else you introduce noise.

    We claim here to want to solve the problems. But a low SNR doesn’t help that.

    Do you actually have a signal, Sir? Do you have a proposed solution?

    Or was that just noise the serious had to filter out? Amongst all the other noise the ‘Bots introduce.

    Perspiring minds would like to know. (Some won’t get that joke. But those who do will understand the heuristics.)

  41. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    Wuhloss…the Apes Hill clubhouse getting turned into offices, the fancy pools have all been removed, boy were those pools pretty….., the new owners don’t want anything like that……what a WASTE of taxpayers…NIS money that was…and nothing to show in return, the sellouts could’ve given the people their money, but no, give it to minority thieves let them waste it and pretend they are better than the people whose money they stole..

  42. TheOGazerts Avatar
    TheOGazerts

    Oh, Jesus. It happened.
    Senility ran up on me.
    Reading and not understanding shit.

  43. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    Theo…for my comment, parliament sellouts and justin robinson took multimillions of NIS money and gave to crooked cow to build a clubhouse in Apes HIll, happened before they kicked him out…problem is the sellouts used Black people’s money….and they couldn’t even go to the clubhouse or anywhere near Apes Hill…but their money built fancy pools for racists to gload……the new owners removed all the glitter….NIS MONEY DOWN THE DRAIN…and people can’t get severance….

    mind you crooked cow don’t pay NIS for his employees…but he could dip into NIS funds, compliments of DBLP sellouts, a man just dropped dead on the job in his employ last year and there were no benefits to bury him but he worked for that savage for 30 years…..and of course the docile would see nothing wrong with that….

    violation of human rights and grand theft.

  44. Chris Halsall Avatar
    Chris Halsall

    @TOG: “Senility ran up on me.

    That’s why it is important to train the young. Seriously. 😎

  45. TheOGazerts Avatar
    TheOGazerts

    Getting it together.
    It’s coming bacK.

    I noticed that Hal A is now missing and CH appeared.
    Could CH be HA in disguise?
    Absolutely brilliant.
    HA fooled everyone.
    🙂
    It’s coming back..

  46. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    All knowledge is contested.

    Today former CDC director Redfield suggested that Covid infected humans months prior the previously understood timelines.

    That he does not believe the wet markets origin accepted in the West. This idea never made complete sense nor science. Redfield contends that the virus was developed in a lab. Which makes more sense given its destructiveness from jump street.

    The Chinese as far back as December 2019 were saying that the Americans knew patient naught and should give them access to this patient zero.

    The Americans will no doubt point to a lab in Wuhan. A lab partially funded by them. Whereas the Chinese point to American soldiers at army games in Wuhan as first infectious people in China.

    Redfield has again opened the possibility that biological warfare was at play.

  47. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    “The Americans will no doubt point to a lab in Wuhan. A lab partially funded by them. Whereas the Chinese point to American soldiers at army games in Wuhan as first infectious people in China.”

    🤣🤣😂😂 Pacha…others are saying UK did it…we just can’t make this up..

  48. Miller Avatar
    Miller

    @ TheOGazerts March 26, 2021 7:00 PM

    That’s the real ‘white’ Canadian by birth McCoy called “CH”, for sure.

    Our overseas correspondent from the back of the Ivy could never be in that kind of IT whiz-kid league.

    We are sure Chris H is quite au fait with his fellow ‘engineer’ Canadian-born the real black Elijah McCoy.

  49. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ David
    Why would a minister announce publicly that schools would be reopened without an agreement with the teachers’ unions?
    Why can’t we admit that the minister has been quite high handed dealing with the teachers unions in every single issue?
    We all want to get back to normal but is it wise to reopen the schools without full support from the teachers?
    Why does the minister feel that divide and rule is the best approach?
    But then plenty lies were told about our capabilities to truly deliver online teaching. At the end of the day, Jeff Broomes radio school on VOB demonstrated practical common sense without all the political PR and grand standing.
    The Minister of Education will join the long list of failures including her current boss who botched edutech and those failures include Jones.
    This whole episode is a fiasco. Of course the Public will blame the teachers as they have done since the 70s.

  50. David Avatar
    David

    Ministry of Education outlines guidelines for safe reopening of schools – Ministry of Education outlines guidelines for safe reopening of schools: https://barbadostoday.bb/2021/03/26/ministry-of-education-outlines-guidelines-for-safe-reopening-of-schools/

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