To BLP Administration: Re. Covid 19 protocols

Submitted by William Parker

I wish to congratulate the BLP government on their handling of the Covid 19 in 2020.

Now that the various “versions” of the original Virus has reached here and the infection rate and deaths are spiralling out of control it is apparent to some, including me, that the government has no answers and is reacting and not pro-acting.

I understand the need for the current lockdown and we all know that 2 weeks is just a start and it will be needed for a lot longer.

However the shutting on the mini marts and way side vendors leaves a lot of us bewildered as the logic behind it. In the area that I live R&R convenience, Mikes Mini Mart, EZ mini Mart and all the others are closed. These were locally owned shops where the poor, and not so poor, could get a little credit until the NIS cheque arrives, when the Post Office reopens, and walk a short distance home in the fresh air.

Now these people have to get an occasional bus to Massy in Oistins, and mix with those in the shop and be infected not only by the current shoppers but those who were there one or two hours ago. Are you telling us that it is safer for a person, who does not have a car, to catch a ZR and travel to Oistins to get a few items than to visit the corner shop?

The word that I have heard from more than one person is that in the last shut down the Major Supermarkets lost a lot of revenue because people switched to minimarts and a lot of way side vendors started. Is the way to make sure that the large foreign owned companies got more of the pie? It certainly seems so.

You have closed them on weekends so their overall sales will increase and their overheads will decrease. Bajans have been very good in following the new rules, and rightfully so, but there is a growing undercurrent of frustration and if the government is not careful there will be mass disobedience. This will hurt everyone. I hope that you can take a pause and consider the additional hardships you are causing a lot of Barbadians.

Thank you. I am a proud Bajan and supporter of the BL&P in the last few elections.

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  • @ angela cox February 28, 2021 6:47 AM

    RE: “If memory serves correct the debt did not start with the past govt. A 14 year govt run under OSA has always use debt as a revolving door to maintain the economy.

    I agree with you 100%.

    But, to bring some level of balance to the discussion, are you forgetting the former DLP administration incurred twice as much debt during its tenure than the “14 year govt run under OSA?”

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  • They are trying to hide informaton, but it’s still coming out.

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  • Grenada to open its Borders to tourism in April
    Grenada closed its borders in december 2020 to ensure the safety of its people
    A wise decision which has paid off dividends socially emotionally and yes financially
    So far Grenada accounts for 148 infections 147 recoveries and one death
    Yes that is a feat which is worth speaking of because cost wise the govt health cost to fighting the virus was a cost worthwhile in that the spike if had occured would have cost the Govt of Grenada millions of dollars which would in turn would be a cost most likely to be placed on the taxpayers shoulders
    Now compare Grenada situation and its now opening in April to barbados
    Here in barbados govt refusal to close its borders cost its numbers and death spikes and millions being poured into the health system as preventive not to mention the present including high price of vaccine which Mia spoke of
    Grenada now can easily sail out of its Port and waved the flag of success welcome tourist to a COVID free environment along with having the go ahead and a better portocol use of tourist entering grenada having the vaccine
    Meanwhile govt of Barbados resorts to the backward method of lockdowns and jail time for its citizens and ballooning health cost

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  • Grenada was forced to close its borders because of the flare up in COVID-19 cases at Sandals in December. This coincided with increased travel from the UK. Grenada caught a break.

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  • SargeantFebruary 28, 2021 12:09 AM

    @John
    The NEWater Singapore uses is reclaimed water aka sewage water, are you saying that Singapore anticipated the Corona virus and its treatment of that water foreshadowed the arrival of the virus?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Of course not.

    Singapore had to adopt strategies that ensured a clean water supply that was large enough to meet its PLANNED needs.

    COVID came long and just bounced off!!

    The countries who have managed and planned their water resources the most skillfully are the countries which have shaken off COVID and got on with living.

    New Zealand and Australia I suggest are two more in the Singapore category.

    The countries which haven’t are left in their wake!!

    So some parts of America and GB are really shithole jurisdictions where water supply is concerned.

    Africa largely gets off because they have been dealing with Malaria for generations.

    I’ve got a feeling that’s why some states in India get off too because they have been also dealing with malaria for generations but need to dig a bit further.

    It’s like GP shows us all the time, some individuals have their lives in order and are ready and waiting expectantly for the next step.

    Others are in … well … sh!t.

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  • Singapore has been at it from the 60’s.

    For them, dealing with COVID is like rolling off a log.

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  • Grenada used commensense over the chasing of the Almighty dollar
    Now Grenada can reap a greater reward as tourist would be most likely be inclined to visit spots with smaller COVID numbers
    Another feat which Barbados govt must undertake and which now finds govt officials back tracking on the correct numbers of positivity increases and the decline by which barbados can say that the country is out of the woods
    Kudos to the Grenada govt for achieving numbers so small in that the country can showcase those numbers as a welcome relief for tourist coming to Grenada
    Meanwhile Barbados govt dash board climbs and govt use harsh language and threats against its people

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  • Cuhdear BajanFebruary 27, 2021 10:33 PM

    John if by the pill you mean the contraceptive pill I am long, long, long. past reproductive age.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Not if you are under 74, fit, healthy and with all your constituent parts!

    https://www.oldest.org/people/pregnant-women/

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  • Artax

    But, to bring some level of balance to the discussion, are you forgetting the former DLP administration incurred twice as much debt during its tenure than the “14 year govt run under OSA?

    Xxxxxxxxccxxccccccc

    I also remember many problems that govt had to undertake and resolve with limited budget along with having to repay past debt left by the OSA govt
    I also remember the prison debt which was a recurring problem every year for govt having to find the funding
    I also remember the global meltdown which hamstrung govt from achieving required finances to help run the economy in an efficient manner because of global negatives situations attached to barbados and small island economies
    I also remember govt having to fight the problem of Ebola
    I also remember the hurricanes which ravished the islands
    Yes i also remember govt not going to the IMF to get loans wherby the economic pressure would be placed on the people as is happening now
    Yes there is plenty to remember but time has the recorded memory of telling the Truth
    I leave it here

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  • Because we are eventually going to beat this dreaded disease, the passage of time was always an ally to Mia.

    The short game was always a difficult one and we did not emerge unscathed, but if Mia takes the lessons learned and apply them, she will emerge as a leader, heroine and genius.

    Time is her friend. She will win this one. Her detractors (on covid-19) will eventually be silenced.

    How big can she win? Remove the kinks in communications, protocol enforcement and the biased imposition of curfew penalties. Big, massive, tremendous, enormous, gigantic, stupendous …

    You go girl.

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  • Time wasted
    Time which emerges as one which Mia is trying to wrestle to the ground because of not keeping Covid out of the country in a timely fashion
    Grenada successfully used Time to help them fight the virus in a short time
    Come April Grenada opens its borders with newer and better windows of opportunities to let Tourist in
    When Grenada saw that the Covid horse was bolting for the door the govt did the most sensible thing and use double blots which block and stop the horse from further bolting

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  • For those who said that a country like Barbados cannot survive without open Borders u were wrong
    Grenada is open proof
    Mia Mottley is now proving to be gungho on all things that can go wrong

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  • SargeantFebruary 28, 2021 12:09 AM

    @John
    The NEWater Singapore uses is reclaimed water aka sewage water, are you saying that Singapore anticipated the Corona virus and its treatment of that water foreshadowed the arrival of the virus?

    HERE IS A DUMMY SEEKING TO CONTRADICT THE SCHOLAR
    THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF COCKROACH AT FOWL COCK DANCE
    THIS IS AN EXAMPLE EXAMPLE OF JACKASS AT RACE HORSE RACE
    THIS IS SIMPLY HILARIOUS

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  • @ angela cox February 28, 2021 8:12 AM

    RE: “I also remember the global meltdown which hamstrung govt from achieving required finances to help run the economy in an efficient manner because of global negatives situations attached to barbados and small island economies.”

    If the global meltdown HAMSTRUNG govt from achieving required finances to help run the economy in an efficient manner,” then, perhaps you may care to explain how the DEBT increased two or three fold, if the “past debt left by the OSA govt was repaid?”

    RE: “I also remember the prison debt which was a recurring problem every year for govt having to find the funding.”

    Are you suggesting the annual prison debt repayment made a significant contribution to the increase in the national debt? Please explain further.

    RE: “I also remember govt having to fight the problem of Ebola.”

    I noticed you’re always mentioning Ebola, but, as far as I can remember, that virus did not pose any immediate threat to Barbados and the Caribbean as you seem to be suggesting.

    Since there weren’t any recorded cases of EVD in the region and, as such, the risk assessment was low, could you please provide us with the amount of debt the former administration incurred as a result of Ebola?

    RE: “Yes i also remember govt not going to the IMF to get loans whereby the economic pressure would be placed on the people as is happening now.”

    Yes, the DEMS did not enter an arrangement with the IMF. However, I remember the 24 credit rating downgrades, as a result of poor economic policies, which also placed economic pressure on the people as well?

    So, “yes, there is plenty to remember but time has the recorded memory of telling the Truth. I leave it here” as well.

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  • GP @Sargeant

    HERE IS A DUMMY SEEKING TO CONTRADICT THE SCHOLAR
    THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF COCKROACH AT FOWL COCK DANCE
    THIS IS AN EXAMPLE EXAMPLE OF JACKASS AT RACE HORSE RACE
    THIS IS SIMPLY HILARIOUS
    Xccccccc.

    Wuhloss what a hearty belly laff on this Sunday morning
    Hs. Ha .ha.

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  • Artax

    Past govt having to sustain a faltering economy on a limited budget please state what were the “poor” economic policies that lead to the downgrade bearing in mind that govt refused to enter long term unsustainable debt and an economy bulldozed by the negative impact of a global economy
    Mia recently boasted that the country has 2.6billion dollars in borrowed money all accomplished in two years yet u forego what debt barbados is under presently along with govt stating no reasonable policy of repayment
    At this point what govt left behind is paltry to what this administration have in hand present mostly made up borrowed funds and chasing the race horse called COVID

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  • “Grenada used commensense over the chasing of the Almighty dollar.”

    that’s the long and short of it…pimping for tourists dollars because the half-brains are not functioning up to par to do better….causes the pile up of dead bodies…..and starvation etc.

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  • DLP says Government’s vaccine plan is ‘unclear and misleading’ – DLP says Government’s vaccine plan is ‘unclear and misleading’: https://barbadostoday.bb/2021/02/27/dlp-says-governments-vaccine-plan-is-unclear-and-misleading/

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  • Disgusting Lies & Propaganda TV

    The plan is unclear and misleading or the DLP spokesperson on health is himself confused? Barbados was donated 100,000 doses of a DOUBLE DOSE vaccine. Subtracting the donations to other CARICOM countries, it means just less than 50,000 persons would be vaccinated in Barbados. I am thinking govt would obviously pay the upfront cost for more vaccines, they are looking at ways to recoup that cost. The persons that have already been vaccinated don’t have to wait 12 weeks for that second dose, that second dose is already here.

    Then there is the issue of global demand versus supply of vaccines in general. That is the main reason COVAX was established so that the poorer nations were not “squeezed out” of getting vaccines. We must understand that it was a small miracle that Barbados got vaccines approx 2 months after they were developed. None the less govt’s can try to buy vaccines outside the COVAX mechanism, and hope to get them here as soon as possible. Seeing the pace of vaccine distribution, 12 weeks (3 months) is a conservative estimate.

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  • WURA-War-on-UFebruary 28, 2021 9:53 AM

    “Grenada used commensense over the chasing of the Almighty dollar.”

    that’s the long and short of it…pimping for tourists dollars because the half-brains are not functioning up to par to do better….causes the pile up of dead bodies…..and starvation etc

    Correct

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  • At least one can reasonably say that Grenada a little spice island is one of the few along with Dominica pursued an economic path which would pay off for their economy long run as they stood bold faced and said to COVID not up in here
    Yes not up.in here words that Mottley used as a battering ram to fight high levels of crime in barbados
    But words which she hid in her back pocket refusing to use as a weapon against COVID but rather listen to the meandering self interest tones of Corporate Barbados which said “Why Not up in here.”
    Go figure

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  • and the vaccines keep coming..lol

    been hearing for a while now that this one has potential..we wait and see.

    https://thegrio.com/2021/02/28/johnson-and-johnson-vaccine-cleared/

    “The U.S. is getting a third vaccine to prevent COVID-19, a one-and-done option that health experts expect to help speed vaccinations.”

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  • Did not Mottley says the second days would be here in weeks and knowing Mottley she would not have left PR strategy out of the loop of avoiding bajans not to see the delivery via media outlets
    This govt lack of transparency would back fire leaving questions to be asked leading them tp doubt and confusion

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  • a
    In an address to the nation on the state of COVID-19 on the island, she said 2,863 people had received the jab, though she expects the number of vaccinations per week to increase soon.

    Mottley revealed that of the 100,000 doses that arrived here on Tuesday as a gift from the Indian government, 92,000 were left for national use after some 8,000 doses were donated to CARICOM neighbours in the Southern and Eastern Caribbean.

    She also indicated that a portion of the vaccines here will be stored so that the second dose can be administered within the next five to ten weeks, while Government hunts for additional vaccines and awaits an additional shipment under the global COVAX initiative.

    She said: “Most of them will get their second dose I am being told in ten weeks’ time,

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  • I see the procurement of vaccines as a major accomplishment.

    I was no rush to be vaccinated, but now that I am trying to do so I am running into a dead end. I am becoming frustrated..
    .”If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain or bitter, for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.”

    I have seen comparisons being made to other countries; if you look closely, then Barbados is doing a much better job than the comparator country.

    “Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.”

    That 2×3 country needs to give itself a big pat on the back. I am envious

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  • Should probably rewrite, but the point is.
    Great job on procuring and distributing vaccines. This goes in the win column.

    To borrow a phrase, that ‘cannot be refuted’.

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  • I hope I will also hear these vaccine praisers will be just as quick to say they were wrong and premature to jump on the vaccine perfect solution bandwagon if the vaccine train goes off the rails later this year due to unforeseen circumstances.

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  • CA,

    There are no guarantees in life. Who knows what will happen?

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  • “I hope I will also hear these vaccine praisers will be just as quick to say they were wrong and premature to jump on the vaccine perfect solution bandwagon if the vaccine train goes off the rails later this year due to unforeseen circumstances”

    CA
    And if it stays on the rail, will you admit that you were wrong and late to the party.

    Your current position is no different from Mariposa cry for a lockdown in the early days of December. She was hoping to be right, and she was right for a very short time

    These are calculated risks. There was a time I was leary of being vaccinated and now I welcome and am desirous of doing so. The risks still exists, but I have shifted my risk needle to preferring to be vaccinated.

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  • Disgusting Lies & Propaganda TV

    @CA it will be a safe bet that you will be hoping in vain. Most of the leg work was getting a vaccine through a Phase 3 trial. Multiple vaccine producers have used slightly different technology but are still getting the same high efficacy rates. It indicates that the virus itself was not difficult to make a vaccine for. Three vaccines have now been approved for use by the FDA, Two vaccines (including the Oxford vaccines) have been approved by the WHO for EMERGENCY USE for the sole reason to combat a pervasive PANDEMIC.

    This same tech is (in relative terms) easily modifiable to combat variants and for boosters later in the year and in the future. The next task is for global supply to catch up with demand and to catch up with the viral spread. At the same time specific trials on children under 16 and pregnant women would be done but these groups are not known to be specifically susceptible to the Sars-Cov2 virus.

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  • What is a short Time to others can be measured in a time frame of circumstances and situations which the people of Barbados has to and will undergo during the COVID crisis on the island
    Time frame made up of a relentless policy of govt stubbornness
    Time frame which has led to death
    What may seem short to those who never had to face the trials of COVID becomes an ongoing feature placed within the minds of those who have faced COVID
    having to deal with death and the continuing negative effects of no taste no smell and long term fatigue
    All of the above which will be placed in the lives of those who have confronted COVID

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  • AC
    SHUT UP DO
    THE GOVERNMENT HAS DONE RELATIVELY WELL WITH RESPECT TO ITS MANAGEMENT OF THE PANDEMIC

    IT HAS NOT BEEN PERFECT BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE INCORRECTLY

    BUT YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT PUBLIC HEALTH , AND THEREFORE HAVE VERY LITTLE TO ADD.

    SHUT UP AND LISTEN AND LEARN

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  • @DL&P TV
    Yours@9.09 am

    In military terms that is what is called a surgical strike, John’s trial balloon has been brought to earth as if attached to a giant anvil.

    Let him argue with WHO or the CDC, but don’t discount it, he will mount some kind of defense as the island scholar keeps reminding us that WHO is led by someone who has no public health training but that didn’t stop Scott Atlas from advising their hero.

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  • the island scholar keeps reminding us that WHO is led by someone who has no public health training AND HAS DONE SO CORRECTLY

    RE but that didn’t stop Scott Atlas from advising their hero. WHAT IS MUCH MORE IMPORTANT IS THAT A BARBADOS SCHOLAR HAS GIVEN SIGNIFICANT ADVICE THAT HAS IMPACTED AT LEAST TWO CRRIBEAN ISLANDS THAT I KNOW ABOUT

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  • Mia is in the situation where all her covid-19 decisions carry an element of risk, become policy and are well documented.

    Instead of being the startled and immobile deer caught in the headlights she has the courage to make these risky and tough decisions.

    Covid-19 is not a yes/no situation. All decisions come with an element of risk and uncertainty to begin with. Once decisions are made, success is also determined on how her decisions are implemented and followed. Like a mother, she must accept responsibility long after these decisions are given birth to.

    By now she must be aware that there are kinks in the system and, most likely, she will fix them.

    Unlike Mia, it takes no courage to be an armchair quarterback. In fact, given the element of risk in all her Covid decisions, being in the armchair is a very comfortable position. Second guessing is now treated as serious analysis.

    I tire, but I have Mia’s back on this covid-19 issue.

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  • The shipment, consisting of 600,000 doses of the AstraZeneca vaccines, arrived at 7 am GMT Wednesday on an Emirates flight at Kotoka International Airport, in Ghana’s capital Accra.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/24/africa/ghana-covax-vaccine-intl/index.html

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  • Donna

    The SPOT ON two

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  • The best attack on Mia that I can muster…. I tried

    I find it quite disconcerting that I am forced to sing in the same choir as Lorenzo. Let’s get this covid-19 licked, so that I can go back to the good old days criticising ̶A̶l̶i̶ ̶B̶a̶b̶a̶ Auntie Mia and her thirty thieves.

    More seriously, I am talking about myself so I can use this word…. If called a Mia ‘yardfowl’, I will laugh and accept it.

    Let’s whip Covid do that we can get back to normal programming.

    Have a great day

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  • @critical
    There are always risks. However, the vaccines acquire by Barbados are already on the battlefield.
    https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2020/12/11/australia-cancels-order-for-vaccine-as-trial-stumbles

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  • having to deal with death and the continuing negative effects of no taste no smell and long term fatigue
    All of the above which will be placed in the lives of those who have confronted COVID.
    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    These are not continuing effects, they are temporary. and everyone that is affect with covid does not have them.
    Stop TRYING to mislead the blog.

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  • “CSL said it would not progress to phase 2/3 clinical trials. It said a small component of the vaccine comes from the human immunodeficiency virus, or HIV, and while that posed no risk of infection, some trial participants had false positive tests for HIV.

    The potential for this to happen was anticipated before the trial, and participants had been pre-warned, CSL said.”

    Wondering how the warning was given
    A) you could test positive for HIV
    B) There is a one in a million chance of testing positive for HIV

    Given the stigma attached to HIV, Iam surprised that the protocol was approved by a regulatory agency or an IRB.

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  • @ac
    “that govt refused to enter long term unsustainable debt”
    Really?
    Borrowing is borrowing, and the resultant debt is debt. Whether the source is the IMF or some other bi-lateral group, or the NIS or any local source, the currency of the debt maybe different, but It is ALL debt.
    Constantly attempting to convince YOURSELF, the former administration did not enter into a mountain of long term unsustainable debt is INCORRECT. You already know those “Facts” were tested on the electorate.
    You are far more effective when you handle non-quantitative issues. And which to your credit, you have traditionally tended to avoid.

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  • “Given the stigma attached to HIV, Iam surprised that the protocol was approved by a regulatory agency or an IRB.”

    this is the wash cycle, so it’s coming out..that is why no one should rush, but it’s still a personal choice.

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  • am sure wickum is happy to hear about the HIV false positives.

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  • Heard they to tossed it out, can’t use that.

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  • Always go to the gold standard!!

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  • Another way of handling the Covid

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  • John2

    These are not continuing effects, they are temporary. and everyone that is affect with covid does not have them.
    Stop TRYING to mislead the blog

    Unless u have been down that road u can’t speak with such know it all authority
    I know of people who had the virus for over a year still struggling with after effects
    Furthermore if govt had done diligence the people on the island would not have to face any before or after effects of the virus

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  • @John February 28, 2021 8:02 AM “Not if you are under 74, fit, healthy and with all your constituent parts!”

    John what wrong have I ever done you that you have scared me like this this bright and beautiful Sunday?

    Lol!

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  • JohnFebruary 28, 2021 3:06 PM
    THANKS JOHN

    WHAT SHE HAS SAID CAN NOT BE REFUTED….ESPECIALLY WHAT SHE SAID BOUT DR FALSY
    WISH TO GOD THAT MIA LOOKED AS GOOD AND SOUNDS AS THIS WOMAN DOES AND THINKS AS CLEARLY AS SHE DID

    MIA LOOK LIKE A DUMP TRUNK SOUNDS LIKE A MAN AND THINKS LIKE A FOOL AND IS A VERY POOR COPIER

    THIS KRISTI GIRL CAN STAND UP
    SHE MINDS ME OF THAT FIRST IN NEHEMIAH THAT SAYS “” EZRA THE PRIEST STOOD UP”
    SO DOES THIS WOMAN.. SHE HAS DONE HER WORK WELL, AS HER RECORD AND RESULTS SHOW, SO SHE CAN AFFORD TO STAND UP

    SHE IS WHO MIA SHOULD HAVE COPIED
    SHE IS WHO MIA SHOULD BE COPYING
    SHE IS ONE SMART WOMAN

    watch now watch

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  • Mia step out on the international platform and sold barbados as COVID free
    Meanwhile other small islands like Grenada planned and prepared a strategy to protect its people
    Today Grenada light shines while barbados light grows dim
    Truth can not hid in darkness it would find way to reveal itself
    The truth being that Mia PR is all she has left now while an island like Grenada bask in the spotlight

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  • On July 21 2015, the then MoF in a ministerial statement relating to the $450M Credit Suisse loan confirmed government’s semi-annual payment of $20.6M in INTEREST and $20.63M amortisation. What is 1% of $980M?

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  • A batch of Astrazena vacvine was delivered to St. Lucia on feb 26th to be shared amongst member states

    http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/latestnews/OECS_countries_to_get_COVID-19_vaccine_shipment_from_India

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  • Mariposa/Ac/Angela Cox tell us what former PM would have done.Tell us about white noise or quote some latin phrases.What would the political nightwatchman do? She cannot even get her candidate selection correct after two and a half years .What would Rev Atherley do afyer winming his seat under Ms Mottley and in my view loking for a pick after not receiving one chose to let down his constituents by grabbing an opportunity.These same constituents who will judge him come 2023 and his party members.When one looks at the alternatives Ms Mottley is head and shoulders above that lot and by most accounts have been given credit for her and her teams handling of the covid crisis.Look how fast she was able to get vaccines while others could not and she shared with others.Ms Mottley in my view leads from the front like Mr Barrow , Sir Grantley and Tom Adams along with Mr ArthurThose are leaders not like some ex PM,sThose are facts you Ac cannot refute therefore take a hike with your petty political diatribe as you all wete fired for being incompetent in 2018 .It will ne a long time before any one want to hear or see you Dems again.Finally to those who call for a plan going forward i am pretty sure once this covid problem is resolved we will see a roll out of capiital projects etc and a way forward economically.

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  • Lorenzo did i mash your corns because i mention Grenada a little spice islands that used common sense to fight the virus and keep their numbers low
    If only Mia had used the same commonsense she would be basking in the spotlight like Grenada having the ability to boast and showoff to the world the great job done in tackling COVID
    Now answer this question which country would you prefer to visit in this COVID environment
    Grenada or Barbados

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  • @ Enuff February 28, 2021 4:41 PM
    “On July 21 2015, the then MoF in a ministerial statement relating to the $450M Credit Suisse loan confirmed government’s semi-annual payment of $20.6M in INTEREST and $20.63M amortisation. What is 1% of $980M?”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Why not ask your mathematical genius the ‘Chris 0.007 Bond Stinkliar’ who is now a chief financial advisor to your supremely competent administration overpopulated with economists ‘grand-murre’?

    We are sure within a confidence level of 1.00.0.0% that your role model the doyen of finance Chris would calculate that number in a twinkling of a decimal eye; give or take a margin of error between 10% and 100%.

    Why can’t you guys just put the past of that sordid DLP lost decade behind you like what you have done with the evidence in the big red bag?

    The bogey man is no longer in the dying body of the past DLP administration but the damage Covid-19 has wreaked like a Category 5 hurricane on the Bajan sandcastle of an economy.

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  • https://barbadostoday.bb/2021/02/28/covid-19-update-30-new-cases-63-recoveries/
    Dashboard for Saturday, February 27, 2021

    63 people discharged
    506 test results [positivity rate 5.9%]
    30 newly infected people
    628 people in isolation
    2980 people vaccinated on Saturday

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  • Mia achievements thus far
    Blowing up the Old NIS building
    Taken over Ram building in a wheel and deal exchange to Hyatt
    Taking down Lord Nelson
    Nothing more
    But she is on charge get it
    Oh selling house and land space at Coverly to a. bajan millionaire
    Btw what is going on between govt and the new managers of Harrison Cave
    The last heard was the new managers decision was to get rid of the old help

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  • Hard ears yuh wun hear ?

    “The prevailing sea conditions and high winds compounded the search, however, the paddle boarder was located by a Barbados Coast Guard vessel 4.8 nautical miles west of the Bridgetown Port at 11:40 am. The individual was rescued and brought to HMBS PELICAN.”

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2021/02/28/bdf-conducts-successful-search-and-rescue-off-brandons-beach/

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  • @ angela cox February 28, 2021 6:02 PM

    What an impressive list of achievements in so short of time to make the combined tenure of Thompson and Stuart look like a gun without bullets!

    But you have omitted one vital item from your list of ‘red sins’ of commission.

    How about the failure to prosecute those whom she accused of bringing Barbados to the brink of economic meltdown through their alleged acts of corruption based on the evidence stored in her red portmanteau?

    But there must be at least one redeeming thing which your political nemesis has done to save Barbados from the snarling jaws of deadly Devaluation.

    How about that of engaging the services of the great shark called the ‘white oak tree’ to save the day?

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  • HantsFebruary 28, 2021 6:06 PM

    Hard ears yuh wun hear ?

    “The prevailing sea conditions and high winds compounded the search, however, the paddle boarder was located by a Barbados Coast Guard vessel 4.8 nautical miles west of the Bridgetown Port at 11:40 am. The individual was rescued and brought to HMBS PELICAN.”

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2021/02/28/bdf-conducts-successful-search-and-rescue-off-brandons-beach/

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    A person may only visit a beach or a park for the purpose of swimming
    or exercise.
    Beaches and parks shall be opened from 6:00 a.m. to 9:00 a.m. and from
    3:00 p.m to 6:00 p.m.
    In addition to beaches and parks, persons may exercise outdoors between
    the hours of 6:00 a.m. and 9:00 a.m. and between the hours of 3:00 p.m. and 6:00
    p.m. but no more than 2 persons shall exercise together, in which case there shall
    be a physical distance of 6 feet between them, unless they are members of the
    same household.

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  • Miller…short memory syndrome, Enuff forgot the same former Fine Ants Minister is now Mia’s advisor.

    they make ya tired..

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  • Cuhdear BajanFebruary 28, 2021 5:49 PM

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2021/02/28/covid-19-update-30-new-cases-63-recoveries/
    Dashboard for Saturday, February 27, 2021

    63 people discharged
    506 test results [positivity rate 5.9%]
    30 newly infected people
    628 people in isolation
    2980 people vaccinated on Saturday

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I could ask you where the people who were tested actually live.

    However, I would have to in all good conscience as a half a lawyer warn you as follows!!

    According to Section 19 subparagraphs 1 part (a) and (b) and 2 of the Emergency Management (COVID-19) (No. 3) Order, 2020 S. I. 2020 No. 71 EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT (COVID-19) (CURFEW) (NO. 5) DIRECTIVE, 2021

    19 (1) No person shall transmit a video recording or an audio recording of any person or in any way make known to the public the identity of any person

    (a) who has been tested for Covid-19 or the result of any such test; or

    (b) who is in quarantine or in an isolation station.

    (2) It is a defence for the person who is charged with an offence under subparagraph (1) if he proves that he had obtained the prior consent of the person who is the subject of the act.

    So if you are going to identify anyone who has been tested, get their permission first.

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  • So I guess we will all have to continue to guess about the geographic locations of the cases and wonder if they are linked to the desal plant.

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  • @Rabbit
    De water ting dun.

    I heah waitin en ewe gon and dun about dis watah ting.

    Ewe iz a man that don’t let fats or trutes stop you. Ewe duz make up alternative facts.

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  • For the moment, it seems to be a closely guarded state secret.

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  • 2021 ignore the vapid Miller. Next!!

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  • Miller
    How about the failure to prosecute those whom she accused of bringing Barbados to the brink of economic meltdown through their alleged acts of corruption based on the evidence stored in her red portmanteau?

    Also how about her promised of releasing the portfolio of her ministers in short time

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  • Grasshopper

    On what fact(s) do you rely?

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  • Disgusting Lies & Propaganda TVFebruary 28, 2021 9:09 AM

    For John Boy

    https://www.interreg-central.eu/Content.Node/New-Covid-19-and-water.html

    Also download the PDF document here to read

    https://www.who.int/publications/i/item/WHO-2019-nCoV-IPC-WASH-2020.4

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Look at the dates of these two references!!

    You have chosen one from April and the other from July 2020.

    Both are ancient history.

    I’m using far more current scientific papers which supersede these two!!

    You are dealing with prehistoric data, the dark ages.

    I am dealing closer to the present and with plain ordinary common sense.

    You are essentially talking rubbish!!

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  • They will blame everything in Covid, just like they did 9/11.

    under cover of lies.

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  • Alright Grasshopper,

    I waiting on your erudite submission but I am here shaking with laughter that you could have been so taken for a ride.

    Certainly you are not depending on the two references above when there are far more current papers dealing with the emerging concern.

    The virus has been found in water.

    It can persist for up to 25 days last time I checked!!

    The references I used were first published in October 2020, several months later.

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  • By now, there may be even more current research emerging.

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  • Knowledge changes with time … except for those who are confident in their own ignorance!!

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  • A slow learner supremely confident in his ignorance!!

    Strike 2.

    Three and you are out!!

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  • So you don’t spread misinformation, here is what is being done in Australia, New South Wales.

    https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Pages/sewage-surveillance.aspx

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  • Current as at: Monday 16 November 2020

    So even after the October paper I posted.

    The virus is in Sewage ….FACT.

    Its presence is being used to determine if people with COVID are present in the catchment.

    Simple, plain facts of life, which simple plain common sense would tell anyone who learns quickly.!!

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  • Over in Victoria, same principle being used to determine if COVID cases present.

    Key points
    Wastewater monitoring can show the possible presence of coronavirus (COVID-19) in a local community.
    Samples of untreated wastewater are analysed for fragments of SARS-CoV-2 – the virus that causes coronavirus (COVID-19).
    If fragments are detected where there have not been recent positive cases, local communities can be more alert and health authorities can target public health advice and increase testing to minimise transmission.
    For more information on how wastewater testing may provide early warning of coronavirus (COVID-19) visit the Wastewater testing page.

    https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/wastewater-monitoring-covid-19

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  • Key points
    Testing of wastewater can show if SARS-CoV-2 – the virus that causes coronavirus (COVID-19) – is present in a local community.
    Victoria has joined other Australian states and territories and New Zealand in collaborative research that will help us detect coronavirus (COVID-19) viral fragments in wastewater systems and use testing results with other health data as part of our response.
    People who have or have recently had coronavirus (COVID-19) may shed fragments of the virus. These fragments can enter wastewater through bowls, sinks and drains. This viral shedding may come from different sources such as used tissues, off hands and skin, or in stools. This may last for a number of weeks beyond a person’s infectious period.
    Samples of wastewater are collected from treatment plants and in the network, both in metropolitan and regional locations. These samples are analysed for fragments of coronavirus (COVID-19).
    If fragments of coronavirus (COVID-19) are detected in the wastewater of an area where there have not been recent positive cases, local communities can be more vigilant, increase clinical testing, and help health authorities to target public health advice to minimise transmission.
    To find out if fragments of coronavirus have been detected in wastewater near you visit the Wastewater monitoring page.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    That’s why Australia and New Zealand are on the road to eradicating the virus in their countries.

    They are aware it is can spread from sewage and waste water.

    In other words, they have extremely tight control over their water supply.

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  • Singapore been at it long ago!!

    https://www.nea.gov.sg/media/news/news/index/nea-leads-scientific-team-in-wastewater-surveillance-trials-for-assessment-of-covid-19-transmission

    NEA Leads Scientific Team In Wastewater Surveillance Trials For Assessment Of COVID-19 Transmission
    19 Jun 2020

    Wastewater-based COVID-19 surveillance complements clinical testing and can provide an additional indicator to assess the spread of disease in a community

    JOINT NEWS RELEASE BETWEEN NEA, HTX AND PUB

    Singapore, 19 June 2020 – The National Environment Agency (NEA) has initiated a pilot surveillance programme to screen wastewater samples for SARS-CoV-2, the causative virus of COVID-19. The amount of viral material in wastewater from a community could reveal the level of COVID-19 spread in the community, and trigger the necessary response plans and mitigation actions, such as individual testing and isolation. Supported by National Water Agency PUB and Home Team Science and Technology Agency (HTX), the novel approach has complemented the Inter-Agency Task Force’s [1] efforts in assessing the situation and reducing the transmission of COVID-19 in the workers’ dormitories.

    Gleaning information from wastewater

    2 Wastewater surveillance is a promising method for assessing the COVID-19 situation, as infected individuals, including those with mild or no symptoms, could shed the virus in their stool. Since February 2020, scientists from NEA’s Environmental Health Institute (EHI), with scientific inputs from Singapore Centre for Environmental Life Sciences Engineering (SCELSE) and the Nanyang Technological University, Singapore-Massachusetts Institute of Technology Alliance for Research and Technology (SMART) and the National University of Singapore, have developed a methodology for wastewater sampling and testing for COVID-19. With support from PUB and HTX, the team has been sampling wastewater from the Water Reclamation Plants (WRP) and workers’ dormitories. In the laboratory, a sensitive molecular assay is used to screen the samples and quantify the genetic material of the virus.

    3 Results from the testing of the wastewater from the WRPs showed that the level of COVID-19 viral ribonucleic acid (RNA) was not detected when there were 160 COVID-19 cases reported nation-wide as at 9 March 2020. However, the RNA levels became detectable in late March 2020, which correlated with the increase in cases detected in foreign workers’ dormitories. This demonstrated the usefulness of wastewater surveillance as a monitoring tool for SARS-CoV-2.

    4 “Several reports overseas have shown that wastewater testing at treatment plants could be useful for early detection of COVID-19 transmission in the community. However, at low level transmission, wastewater surveillance at the treatment plant appears to be less sensitive than clinical surveillance of cases in Singapore. This is likely due to our intensive clinical testing regime. Monitoring is ongoing to determine the trending of the concentration of viral material at the WRPs, and the relationship between the viral material concentration and prevalence of COVID-19 in Singapore”, explained Assoc. Prof Ng Lee Ching, Director of NEA’s Environmental Health Institute.

    5 Detection of viral material or RNA in the wastewater does not suggest the presence of viable or infectious virus. Without a host, the virus will not be able to propagate over time in wastewater. As an added preventive measure, wastewater from locations with COVID-19 cases, such as hospitals, isolation facilities and dormitories, are disinfected with chlorine at the premises before discharge into the public sewers. Disinfectants like chlorine can effectively inactivate the viruses.

    Wastewater testing to support dedicated efforts at workers’ dormitories

    6 Testing of wastewater to assess the situation of COVID-19 in a community or geographical population catchment is not new. However, NEA’s EHI has brought the science of wastewater testing further by using it to support the Inter-Agency Task Force’s dedicated effort in monitoring and management of COVID-19 transmission among workers in dormitories (refer to Annex A for pictures of lab and field work). The pilot programme involves monitoring wastewater in manholes of 20 large dormitories to provide an additional indicator that complements the clinical tests to assess the COVID-19 situation and guide the progressive clearance of the dormitories.

    7 For dormitories in the pilot programme with no detected COVID-19 cases, a zero reading for SARS-CoV-2 material in the wastewater provided the added assurance that the dormitories remain free from infection, and to allow the workers to leave the dormitories for work. On the other hand, viral material was detected in the wastewater of some dormitories, and this had prompted more swab tests for workers at these dormitories, leading to more detections and isolation of cases, including asymptomatic ones. This facilitated a more targeted swabbing strategy and contributed to the mitigation of further transmission.

    8 The trial results at the dormitories also show that the concentration of SARS-CoV-2 material in wastewater is related to the prevalence of COVID-19 in the dormitories. The team has thus far demonstrated the utility of wastewater testing as a warning system for the presence of the COVID-19 cases, and that the trending of SARS-CoV-2 concentration over time can determine if infection control measures taken have been effective. Wastewater samples can also capture information on a cross-section of the community, which allows for the monitoring of large groups. If positive signals are detected from wastewater at a particular site, clinical testing for COVID-19 can be carried out for the affected community, allowing screening for COVID-19 to be carried out in a more targeted manner. Although the approach has been useful in detecting COVID-19 cases, more research is needed to understand the sensitivity of the method in detecting early or a few number of cases.

    9 Despite its potential, the use of wastewater surveillance to detect COVID-19 spread is still in its early stages. NEA is working to ramp up its capacity to increase its coverage by expanding sampling to more wastewater nodes, which would improve the ability to pick up transmission. More information on the results of the wastewater surveillance in Singapore will be revealed when ready

    [1] Led by the Ministry of Manpower and comprises the Ministry of Health, the Singapore Armed Forces and the Home Team, the Inter-Agency Task Force has been set up to support foreign workers and dormitory operators in managing COVID-19.

    ~~ End ~~

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  • @GP February 28, 2021 12:17 PM “AC SHUT UP DO THE GOVERNMENT HAS DONE RELATIVELY WELL WITH RESPECT TO ITS MANAGEMENT OF THE PANDEMIC.”

    Thanks Dr. GP.

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  • We need to lock down the desal plant pending an audit, preferably by experts from Singapore, Australia or New Zealand who practice the science of water treatment.

    Borehole testing around other public water supply wells is a good idea.

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  • @John February 28, 2021 7:00 PM “I could ask you where the people who were tested actually live.”

    I couldn’t tell you because I don’t know. But of course the government knows. As you well know when we go to the doctor, they always ask for name, address, gender, family history, next of kin etc., so I expect that the government knows, assuming though that all patients always tell the whole truth. Lol!

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  • There is only one goal … keep the virus out of our drinking water.

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  • Cuhdear BajanFebruary 28, 2021 8:43 PM

    @John February 28, 2021 7:00 PM “I could ask you where the people who were tested actually live.”

    I couldn’t tell you because I don’t know. But of course the government knows. As you well know when we go to the doctor, they always ask for name, address, gender, family history, next of kin etc., so I expect that the government knows, assuming though that all patients always tell the whole truth. Lol!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    You could become a quarter lawyer one day if you work at it!!

    Your points are well made with plausible deniability!!

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  • @Rabbit,
    You have to help me.
    Lay it out simple…
    Your reference were all about covid-19 in waste water. Then you make a big leap from waste water to a desalination plant.

    PleAse connect the two. I am doubtful that the desal plant output is wastewater. Nice sleight of hand, though.

    This is even n more recent than what you cited.
    “There is no evidence that COVID-19 can spread to people through water, including floodwater. Sometimes floodwater can mix with wastewater. CDC is not aware of any scientific reports of the virus being spread by swallowing or coming in contact with water contaminated by feces from an infected person.”

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  • Mari

    Grenada did not plan and carry out anything

    Grenada was also “catching” at the tourist dollars just like Barbados
    They had an out break in a sandals hotel before Xmas and shut down to contain it

    The shut down was before Xmas so the were lucky not to get the Xmas rush or they would have been in the same boat as Barbados

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  • Yes some people suffer from long term effects
    But the the majority as u trying to make it out to be

    I know quite a few people that were affected by it and the only thing they had was a temporary list of smell
    Some other did even know they had it until they were tested and they recovered within having any symptoms

    I guess you had it so u can speak on authority

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  • TheoGAzertsFebruary 28, 2021 9:19 PM

    @Rabbit,
    You have to help me.
    Lay it out simple…
    Your reference were all about covid-19 in waste water. Then you make a big leap from waste water to a desalination plant.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Wastewater emerges from septic tanks in the heavily populated area around the desal plant.

    Raw sewage emerges from houses with no septic tanks.

    Both permeate through the coral to the groundwater and seawater beneath the housing area.

    The groundwater, wastewater and raw sewage and sea water travel towards the pumps that feed the desal plant.

    The pumps take up all indiscriminately and send them to the desal plant for processing.

    The desal plant is not perfect, it has standards it is supposed to meet.

    It does not remove 100% of impurities, it isn’t designed to do that.

    It is designed to produce water that meets WHO standards.

    COVID is a new kid on the block.

    No big leap, just requires a little understanding!!

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  • TheoGAzertsFebruary 28, 2021 9:19 PM

    “There is no evidence that COVID-19 can spread to people through water, including floodwater. Sometimes floodwater can mix with wastewater. CDC is not aware of any scientific reports of the virus being spread by swallowing or coming in contact with water contaminated by feces from an infected person.”

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    If that were true why do Australia, New Zealand and Singapore test wastewater to determine if the virus is present and as a means to track down cases in the catchment area?

    Two strikes.

    One more and you are out.

    In Cricket you would be gone ever since!!

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  • @Rabbit
    Nice sleight of hand.
    The testing is usually for fragment of the virus. I believe when they say fragment, they are talking of dead virus fragments.

    I would suggest that you reread your 8:33 post.

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  • TheoGAzertsFebruary 28, 2021 9:19 PM

    “There is no evidence that COVID-19 can spread to people through water, including floodwater. Sometimes floodwater can mix with wastewater. CDC is not aware of any scientific reports of the virus being spread by swallowing or coming in contact with water contaminated by feces from an infected person.”

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    How does it spread from Bats to Humans?

    It is simpler to accept that it spreads from water to humans than Bats to Humans.

    Then again, bat droppings are in water!!!

    Bats abound in caves through which water that ultimately ends up in the public water supply.

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  • They test the water because infected persons shed fragments. It would alert them to the presence of the disease in the area

    You are moving the target around.

    Switching between waste water and desal water, possibility of infections by drinking water and detection of already existing cases by dead fragments in waste water.

    No ball.

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  • Ok Grasshopper

    In cricket at test level, your referral to the third umpire would have been turned down.

    But you would never have reached that level.

    That’s why you are having difficulty handling the bowling.

    Test class bowlers don’t give low order batsmen bad balls.

    Luckily we are using the baseball analogy.

    One more strike and you are out!!

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  • Wow, we are now at bats.

    Wasn’t one of the early reason was because people were catching and keeping bats for food..
    “Experts say SARS-CoV-2 originated in bats. That’s also how the coronaviruses behind Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS) and severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) got started. SARS-CoV-2 made the jump to humans at one of Wuhan’s open-air “wet markets.”

    This is too easy. The master sitting at the feet of grasshopper.

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  • Full tosses and no balls.
    The ‘bats’ was an easy six. You better keep it at baseball, because the bowling is weak. Good trash talk, lousy bowler.

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  • I’ll give you another one to ponder.

    By placing the infected persons at Harrison’s point and Paragon the GOB takes the possibility of contamination of the water supply out of the equation …. once they caught it quick enough and once no one is present in the catchment area who is asymptomatic.

    My bet is the COVID buses are an attempt to accomplish the task which Australia, New Zealand and Singapore accomplish through their sewage monitoring.

    That’s why none have been up in St. Thomas as attested to by the resident expert on life expectancy.

    Now that was one extremely astute observation.

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