Closing Arguments

I believe that all candidates in this by election are accomplished persons, who can competently represent the people of St George North.  However, can they address the specific problems facing this constituency?

The housing, drainage, roads, water, and transportation problems require engineering solutions – which I specialise in.  The unemployment problems require business development solutions, which I also specialise in.

The Prime Minister wants Toni Moore to assist her with some heavy lifting.  The Prime Minister can easily get Toni Moore in her Cabinet, in the same way that she appointed Senator Lisa Cummins as Minister of Tourism.  Therefore, the Prime Minister can get Toni Moore, and the people of St George North can get their first Engineer.

WHAT IF?

What if the people vote for their party’s interests instead of their own?

Nationally, it does not matter how St George North voters vote.  Mia Mottley will still be the Prime Minister of Barbados, and the BLP will still be in Government.  However, it does matter to the residents of St George North how they vote.

If they vote for the BLP, then they will simply switch one BLP representative for another.  Therefore, they can expect their lives to remain the same.  This sameness can be described as being house-poor and/or working-poor.

If they vote for the DLP, then since DLP projects must be approved by a BLP Cabinet, voters can expect their lives to remain the same.  The UPP, BFP, and the PdP will face the same problems as the DLP.  Therefore, that is a vote for poverty.

Poverty can cause people to justify prostitution, stealing, selling drugs, or doing any other illegal activities just to survive, and provide for their families.  Voters finally have an opportunity to vote for prosperity.

Solutions Barbados does not need any Government support for our projects.  They are designed to directly benefit the residents of St George North.  Our no-profit construction company can provide all unemployed persons in St George North with a salary, to pay their monthly expenses.  Therefore, they can pay their family’s rent/mortgage, food, clothes, school fees, school books, medicines, etc.

We can train all families in St George North to start profitable businesses, with no start-up money.  Their products may be marketed on the Internet, to countries where Barbados has favourable double taxation agreements.

St George North has this opportunity to show the rest of Barbados what a prosperous constituency looks like.  On 11 November, we will know whether voters voted for the narrow interests of their political parties, or the interests of their families and the rest of Barbados.

Grenville Phillips II is a Chartered Structural Engineer, and the Solutions Barbados’ candidate for St George North.  He can be reached at NextParty246@gmail.com

128 thoughts on “Closing Arguments


  1. I want this fellow Phillips to win. It is time the swamp in Barbados be drained. I don’t agree with some of his ideas but after more than a half-century of feeding off the financial trough of Barbados, it is time both the BLP and DLP be given the boot in their backsides and be kicked out. Time for new ideas and new directions.


  2. @ Robert

    Be careful what you wish for. Remind me, plse say who are the other leading members of Solutions Barbados, apart from Junior?


  3. This is one of the better pieces from Grenville in terms of strategy.

    He is learning to create a distance between himself and the others. If he wishes to win anything at anytime he should never shower his opponents with praise. Here he observes that simple rule.

    Here is a next rule to follow… Learn what topics are the like the third rail big some railroad tracks and avoid them.

    A good example, the “Nelson statue”. Trash what you are now writing.


  4. Barbadian economy: clouds and silver linings
    By Ralph Jemmott
    Even the most cheerful optimist must be conscious of the economic clouds that are hanging over Barbados, the region and much of the western capitalist world.
    Of the world’s major economies, only China is expected to show significant gross domestic product (GDP) growth in 2020, estimated at four per cent. The United States economy is expected to contract by four per cent in 2020, the Eurozone’s by as much as eight per cent.
    The clouds hanging directly over Barbados are quite dark. In his third-quarter economic review, the Governor of Barbados’ Central Bank calculated that output fell by 16 per cent over the period January to the end of September.
    Overall slide
    While the overall slide for this year is expected to be in the double digits, the ostensible silver lining is that the bank expects the economy to “rebound gradually” in calendar year 2021. One eminent English poet claimed that “Hope springs eternal”.
    Despair is a terrible thing. No one wants to send a dispiriting message and as Dr Jill Biden said in defence of her husband’s candidacy: “Faith sees better in the darkness”.
    However, reality is what it is.
    Barack Obama once said that if you ignore reality, it can come back to bite you. This is not the time for wishful thinking and easy certainties.
    The International Monetary Fund (IMF) has optimistically predicted that the Barbados economy could grow by as much as 7.4 per cent in 2021, a figure which the Central Bank does not consider “unreasonable”.
    In fact, its governor suggests that growth could be as high as 10 per cent next year, if, “everything goes in Barbados’ favour”.
    One University of the West Indies professor has rightly pointed out that a rise of seven per cent after a decline of 17 per cent would still put the economy down ten per cent over calendar year 2019.
    He, however, did not rule out a recovery, seeing that the slowdown after February was “artificial”, caused by the COVID-19 pandemic and the resulting shutdown. The expectation must be that the COVID
    threat will cease sooner rather than later.
    Optimistic projections for the economy have invariably focused on the tourism industry which has been the main engine of growth. The focus has been on proposed start-up projects in that sector. However, such start-ups have been either not in evidence or very slow in coming, for example, the Four Seasons non-event, the delayed Sam Lord’s Castle venture or the slow-paced Hyatt on lower Bay Street.
    In September, the then head of the private sector body lamented the tardiness with which projects deemed essential to economic growth were getting off the ground.
    The reality maybe that investors are reluctant to build plant while the tourism market remains weak.
    The current tourism minister is hoping for a return to a 40 per cent hotel occupancy rate in the coming tourist season. There are some positive signifiers, such as the Barbados Welcome Stamp initiative and the return of major passenger carriers. A 40 per cent occupancy rate would constitute a good start to a recovery, but as Professor Michael Howard has written, we would need an occupancy rate of about 60 per cent to guarantee substantive viability.
    The so-called “externalities” do not at present portend a hasty recovery for the tourism sector and consequently for the overall economy. Much in the global market is assuredly not in our favour.
    Tourist markets
    Our major tourist markets in Britain, Europe, the United States and Canada are bracing themselves for a second wave of the COVID-19 pandemic. On October 30, US cases reached nine million and deaths just before the November 3 elections stood at 233 000.
    In Britain, Boris Johnson announced a month-long lockdown for England starting Thursday, November 5.
    Germany’s Angela Merkel has warned of “a long hard winter”, as that country returned to lockdown from Monday, November 2.
    Barbados must jump-start its economy. Getting the BEST programme underway, getting the hotels reopened, getting the restaurants reopened is very important. However, if it opens its
    tourism doors too soon and too wide, we may face the kind of intolerable health dangers that we have so far avoided.
    Apart from the “externalities”, there are internal factors, (the two are obviously related). One such is unemployment. The Central Bank’s Review of Barbados’ Economic Performance, January to September, did not give the current unemployment figures, but it did note that between late March and September, unemployment claims reached 32 000. The governor himself warned that if the recession is prolonged, several people could become unemployable.
    Government has taken on many highly-paid consultants, ostensibly hired because of the quantitative and qualitative enormity of the challenges it faces. It must now assure us that it gets things done and done right.
    Failing that, everything may appear to be illusion and spectacle, symbolism and public relations.
    Ralph Jemmott is a retired educator.


  5. Survival is determined by willingness to adapt
    Charles Darwin’s theory of evolution does not argue for “survival of the fittest”. That means nothing.
    “Fit” is a relative term. “Fit” for what? A marathon runner is not necessarily fit for a 100-metre dash.
    A sprinter is not necessarily fit for a marathon. Your degree of fitness is relative to the task at hand. You must be fit for purpose.
    What Darwin suggested is more accurately characterised as the survival of the fittest, for a particular environment or situation. And in cases where the environment or situation is changing, it will be the survival of the most adaptable and ready to change to fit the new era. And in some cases, it will be survival of the most ready to totally transform.
    The human species is one of the most adaptable on the planet. Humans spread across the planet to inhabit the full spectrum of environments and climates and to conquer a diverse range of situations and circumstances.
    Human beings have proven themselves fit to fit in almost anywhere.
    But the fit has not always been neat and tidy. Often, there has been a fallout. Other species have gone extinct, whole landscapes have been decimated, and as we well know, whole human civilisations have been destroyed due to the expansion of other groups of humans. Some philosophers have compared the human species to a virus or plague on the Earth.
    This analogy has probably never been truer. Having spread across the globe to multiply and colonise more and more space, displacing more and more species, building and constructing, and building and constructing, the warnings about collapse have increased. Global warming, coronavirus, non-communicable diseases, social unrest are all the result and by-product of being one of the fittest
    species on the planet. Maybe too fit for our own good.
    Such is the price of progress that it becomes questionable whether what we call progress is really progress at all. We have bigger, better and faster machines, but are we healthier and happier than previous generations or cultures, which were displaced or destroyed in the name of progress?
    Technological advance has sped up the rate of change in human society.
    Psychological and social progress has to keep pace. If we are to be fit for the kinds of societies that technology will enable, we have to be more adept at adaptation than ever. This adaptation, evolution, if you will, must be an evolution of the mind and social systems.
    The problem is that as adaptable a species as we are, we don’t like change.
    As inevitable as change is, we try our hardest to avoid it. As liberal as some humans think they are, as a species, we tend towards conservatism. The only thing that varies is what people are trying to conserve.
    Despite the obvious threats and dangers to humankind and nature due to the global system which was inaugurated and imposed through the transatlantic slave trade and European colonisation, many seem loathe to transform. Instead, the instinct seems to be to try and tweak here and fiddle there so that we can keep plodding along on the same general path.
    It has become increasingly clear that the path we have been on for the last 500 or so years cannot continue. It has been or should have been clear to those of us on the excremental side of the colonial stick for a long time.
    But too many of us have lived in hope of getting a hold on the cotton candy side. Now that the entire world is in danger of being flushed, both those who have eaten the sweets and those who have dreamed
    of eating the sweets do not want to let go the sinking, stinking stick.
    Sam Cooke said it most beautifully.
    “ A change is gonna come.”
    It will come by choice or by force.
    Survival is determined by readiness and willingness to adapt. What we must change is our minds. The mindsets we’ve adopted are not fit for the purpose of sustainability and prosperity for all. The attitude of survival of the fittest, which is based on a misunderstanding of Darwin, could destroy us all. We are tasked with transforming our old mindsets and creating new minds fit for the purpose of a rapidly evolving era.
    Adrian Green is a communications specialist.


  6. Grenville Phillips II ” We can train all families in St George North to start profitable businesses, with no start-up money.”

    It is reasonable to conclude that all families in Barbados can be trained to start profitable businesses.

    The BU maguffees are busy discussing the trumping of Trump so GP II will escape a critical analysis of his solutions for SGN.


  7. I like how Ralph Jemmott makes solid contact with his subject matter.

    The material is well thoroughly explored and can stand by itself. Heavy on content and light on Jemmott; unlike presentations which rely on the writer’s
    credentials and are light on content.


  8. Wuh Loss!!

    Quite a variety of topics on this blog. Where do we begin?
    @ David BU
    The COVID -19 is reported to have started in China and it spread to the rest of the world. China is forecast to have a growth rate of 4 %. Will this growth spread to the rest of the world as well? Can China grow without the rest of the world growing? Who will buy this increase of product and services ? Is this internal growth in output powered by internal growth in demand? Why this obsession with growth? I am thinking aloud as usual.

    We may be wasting this crisis. We may be strategizing to fit political and biospheric environments that no longer exist. The good news is that we have been here before so we know how to roll with the punches. It is good to ventilate. It is the only way to separate the wheat from the chaff.


  9. Hants,

    GP 2 believes that Trump has done very well by black people. Stands to reason he will be sorry to see him go.

    Just one of the reasons why GP2 cannot be taken seriously.


  10. DavidNovember 8, 2020 10:15 AM

    @Vincent

    What is good strategy planning?

    My answer short and sweet

    Sitting back and listening to the BU intelligent mumbling back and forth about Trump
    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    Meanwhile Barbados sit deathly close on a precipice defined by COVID which all but shuts out barbados economy from countries which barbados drpends on for forex
    No.one seems to be interested in the crime and violence the silence on this any other economical issues are defending
    Recently Standard and Poors gave govt a thumbs up
    However what Standard and Poor does not pay attention or have observed is the pain and suffering which barbadians are enduring
    But never mind the voices of those at home called to pay attention are silent
    We have moved into a dark place where barbados social and economic problems seem to matter no more as did 10 years ago
    Could it be that time can bring tide closer to home where everyone makes a decision that survival is one of an individual calling and interest


  11. @ Mr. Phillips II

    After reading your article and I was a constituent of St. George North, the first thing I would question is your sincerity. Why? You were Solutions Barbados’ candidate for the constituency for the 2018 general elections. Why did you abandoned the constituency immediately after the elections?

    Let me state ‘up front,’ I have endorsed your plans in this forum on several occasions. However, if you knew SB does not need any financial support from government for its projects, which, according to you, “were designed to directly benefit the residents of St George North;” and SB could “train all families in St George North to start profitable businesses, with no start-up money,” why didn’t you remain in the constituency to implement those plans during the past 2½ years?

    If you had, surely by now, “St George North (would’ve had an) opportunity to show the rest of Barbados what a prosperous constituency looks like.” Instead, you chose to resurface with those plans, immediately after a by-election was announced. It sends the wrong message.

    Another concern I would have as a constituent, is SB seems to be a ‘one man party.’ Who and where are the other members of SB?
    Apparently, you’re the lone spokesperson on all issues, whether they are about the economy, law and order, social welfare, sports, health, agriculture, tourism, foreign affairs, business or community development.
    Aren’t there any other members of SB with specific expertise in those areas that could articulate the party’s views and policies?

    Mr. Phillips II, I don’t have any problems with your messages. My problem is the manner in which you ‘package and deliver’ them.


  12. @ Nextparty246:
    (Quote):
    Solutions Barbados does not need any Government support for our projects. They are designed to directly benefit the residents of St George North. Our no-profit construction company can provide all unemployed persons in St George North with a salary, to pay their monthly expenses. Therefore, they can pay their family’s rent/mortgage, food, clothes, school fees, school books, medicines, etc. (Unquote).
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    So why are you running to be an elected member of the political class at this point in time?

    So why not just endeavour to implement the same projects you are promoting (without the need for taxpayers’ financial support) and by the fruits borne from your ‘entrepreneurial’ labour you would be rewarded in political paradise in 2023 or even before.

    Doesn’t ‘Work’ come before ‘Reward’ except in the dictionary?

    “In all toil there is profit, but mere talk tends only to poverty.”

    “In the same way, let your light shine before others, so that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father who is in heaven.”


    • How can road works and other construction be implemented without approval from Big Works? Who will pay for the drawings, approvals, insurances, legal cost etc?


  13. Robert:
    If we win, St George North and Barbados wins.

    Hants:
    I only proposed to do what I have the capacity to do. I have been on various platforms answering questions showing how our plans are workable.

    Art:
    I neither abandoned the constituency, nor got in Glyne Clarkes way. The people elected him to represent them, and all candidates should respect the voters’ decision.

    I have been active in SGN, but I never publicised what I did for the simple reason that I do not want anyone to think that I did things for political motives. The only activities that were advertised were the wealth creation workshops and finishing school, since those were public events.

    Art & Miller:
    The unemployment situation is desperately critical for many in SGN. Our plan to employ every unemployed person in SGN who wants to work in construction is workable. However, I cannot start such a company and still be a Consulting Engineer – it is unethical.

    If the people want me to represent them, then I will. I plan to close my consultancy practise for 30 months, and start the no-profit construction company for them.

    David:
    Our plan was to permanently repair pot-holes in SGN. I already received a no-objection for doing so. No drawings, or legal cost are required.


  14. @Hal Austin November 8, 2020 7:10 AM
    You are correct. BUT, is SGN voting for a person OR for a party?
    If Reifer wins, the D’s will bang their chests “they are back”.
    If TM wins, the B’s ego will be fueled they are still atop of island politics.
    Neither have promised, and hence, are unlikely to ‘make a difference’.
    Voters in SGN have nothing to lose, and possibly much to gain, by voting for GPII.
    As a party leader, he may well be as dictatorial as our current PM, or her predecessor. This style is a current trend in many nations.


  15. “are bracing themselves for a second wave of the COVID-19 pandemic” (quote)
    RJ should appreciate they ARE IN the second wave, which in many places is proving as invasive, or more so, than the first wave. The bracing is long past. It is the lockdowns, quarantines, restrictions etc which will affect discretionary travel.


  16. Miller…just as i thought, perception is a hell of a thing, I posted a video from African Diaspora Channel this morning on the nelson removal in Barabos , and would you know it, some of the commenters who know no better are claiming that there will be no more racism, oppression, exploitation etc of the Black population in Barbados as long as the island removes itself form under the British monarchy….they actually believe it’s the brits responsible for the shite the haunted house negros have done TO BLACK PEOPLE for 50 plus years….but look how all the shite is GOING TO BACKFIRE when they remove themselves from under Elizabeth and the racism, exploitation, oppression, thefts of land and bank accounts from the helpless and clueless, thefts of VAT, thefts from the TREASURY AND PENSION FUND, when the supreme court remains corrupt, when the elderly ARE ROBBED THEIR LAND, when beneficiaries CANNOT RECOVER THEIR STOLEN ESTATES, when the injured in the supreme court ARE ROBBED THEIR COMPENSATION or can’t see their CASES FINISHED…when all of that continues UNABATED….😂😂…look how African Diaporan Channel will have FOLLOW UP NEWS TO REPORT…….😂🤣🤣🤣

    as it stands Elizabeth is being BLAMED for the racism etc and the corruption etc on the island….i could never have made that up…..am good, but NOT THAT GOOD…..🤣🤣🤣


  17. @ Northern Observer

    I once used a word I have used twice on BU over the years against Junior and st and by that description. He made one claim on BU, then gave an interview to Barbados Today and said exactly the opposite. He claimed again that one reason for not identifying his members was because people feared for their jobs.
    He is not alone, but his passive/aggressive style may go down well in Barbados, in other societies he will be driven from public life.
    His claims of members’ fears for their job security was, and remains, a very serious allegation in a democracy, and I said that. It is that fear that keeps many decent people from entering public life in Barbados and the nation suffers for it.
    That fear, along with cyber bullying and hectoring prevents many well informed people from assisting in educating the general public and, thus, lead better government. Any intelligent person will welcome Junior’s involvement in public life; what he must do is put the brakes on his ego.
    We now know that many former members of Solutions have moved to PdP and have been very vocal. This is what is called refutability.
    Further to that, Junior speaks out on every portfolio, and more than that, believes, is totally convinced, that he has a knowledge and authority to speak out on every subject over and above his democratic freedom.
    He reinforces this by reminding us of his professional and academic qualifications. I live in a society in which many of our public figures, including members of parliament, do not wave their qualifications about, the public do not like them waving their qualifications, and, frankly we see it as obscene.
    In Barbados to say this some people think it is envy. Nonsense. I have said on here before that the surprise of knowing about people’s experiences can be very interesting.
    A former colleague of mine died a couple weeks ago, it was only on reading his obituary that I realised he had a PhD. In 2008, it was while reading a Sunday newspaper profile of my boss that I realised he was Eton, Oxford and the London Business School.
    The lesson is let your ideas do the talking and cut out the I ams. But this is Barbados and being an intellectually mediocre lawyer or PhD is more important than what one has to say.


  18. Buh hey hey! I did not even think of that! Those who left his party and went to PDP are very vocal. This suggests that they were muzzled because Grenville thought that he alone should speak.

    Cyberbullying or truth telling?


  19. I don’t normally defend Grenville, but there is always some element of fear running through the Black population about speaking truth on the islalnd, about offending the haunted house negros of the day occupying the house paid for by taxpayers….. fear of losing their jobs, their homes, any little opportunities they may have coming their way, i remember one brilliant man exposed some things in Barbados in the 70s, Miller can confirm the year, and he was brutally destroyed by the house slaves of the day, last i heard, he ended up living and dying under a tree in Carrington Village, so there is a lot of truth to what is being said, but who is saying it is the problem, because Grenville has the same nasty mentality if things don’t go his way, his former members said that he went as far as to violate the constitution on their right to ASSOCIATE..

    .i have read the document and it’s very clear that you cannot violate anyone’s right to join any political party even if they are a member of yours, they are free to leave and associate…but no, Grenville was bullying them to sign a document sanctioning them for 1 million dollars i believe it was, he can confirm, if they left his party to join another….the constitution is very damn clear OK..but dictator Grenville was making up his own shit as he went along…


  20. but no, Grenville was bullying them to sign a document sanctioning them for 1 million dollars i believe it was, he can confirm, if they left his party to join another….the constitution is very damn clear OK..but dictator Grenville was making up his own shit as he went along…

    ARE YOU SURE THAT IS THE TRUTH OR A FIGMENT OF YOUR IMAGINATION.

    WASN’T THE AMOUNT WHATEVER THE AMOUNT SUPPOSED TO BE IF THEY WERE ELECTED AND FOUND GUILTY OF CORRUPTION?

    GREENVILLE PHILIPS II CAN CONFIRM OR DENY.


  21. @HA
    you are entitled to your opinion. And I am not claiming the man is not human and does not have faults. What I am saying, if you want a test run at very little or no cost to the people of SGN, vote him in. He has until the next General Election to prove his mettle. In opposition he may even push a few buttons.
    I am not a political junkie, but the entry of GPII would at least break the mold of B or D/former B or D.
    I have little confidence, given the ‘party attachment’ voters in Barbados have, the election of GPII is likely. Yet, I would welcome it.


  22. UK government to provide elderly and vulnerable with Vitamin D supplements.

    Millions of elderly and vulnerable will get free Vitamin D from government as evidence grows that it helps in battle against Covid-19

    People shielding will be sent enough supplies of the vitamin to last four months
    It comes after Matt Hancock decided to act fast due to evidence about benefits
    Study found 80 per cent of Covid-19 victims in hospital were Vitamin D deficient

    More: dailymail(DOT)co<strong(DOT)uk/news/article-8925321/Millions-elderly-vulnerable-free-Vitamin-D-government.html

    In this 15minute video (below) an Oncologist from Puerto Rico, Dr. Victor Marcial Vega. also recommends Vitamin C supplementation for building up the immune system against various viral diseases, including Covid-19 (as does Dr. Fauci). Do a search for the “MATH+ Covid-19 protocol”, formulated by a group of emergency and critical care specialist in the USA. The “A” in MATH+ stands for Ascorbic Acid (by IV), i.e. VItamin C by IV.

    ref=em-share


  23. @ Northern Observer

    If you are asking people to vote for someone, they must be told who that person is. Politics is not a game.


  24. They have been told….he is GPII, they can see him, feel him, talk to him. Are the people not entitled to form their own opinion on ‘who that person is’? Would he be the first politician who found themselves in a case of ‘double speak’? Just recently, one Mr Anthony Wood, a former BLP member, appeared on a DLP platform, where he admitted he did not fully understand what renegotiating public debt entailed. If it is explained fully to him, is he allowed to change his opinion?
    The candidate is whomever the voter believes that person to be.


  25. @ Northern Observer,

    Is this meant as a joke or are you seriously saying the candidate is who the the voter thinks s/he is? Plse tell me this is meant as a joke.


  26. Baje…..am not the one who had a political party and the members RAN AWAY and if memory serves me, threatened court action too…so if ya werent on the blog at the time just shut up until Grenville says am imagining something, or if ya were on the blog tough shit if ya memory aint worth a thing because it was in the NEWSPAPERS…

    that is the problem with some of you because i know you were on the blog back then, yall can’t remember one shit but always ready to challenge…it was less than 4 years ago..another observation of abnormality..short memory syndrome…then ya will want to tell me that something is wrong with me..


  27. I remember there was something about leaving the party but do not remember clearly what it was

    It could have been tied to the $1M


  28. So what was the penalty to BE PAID for leaving Grenville’s party….neither you nor Baje can tell me what it is, but ya disputing….what was the amount, there was one posted in the papers, why ya think they wanted to sue…

    don’t know if Grenville will be man enuff to post the amount, ya will have to ask one of his exmembers if anything because everyone on BU will now claim memory loss, even if they remember, with the exception of Piece….he wil remember for sure.


  29. Leaving a political party to join another AND being corrupt has nothing to do with each other, so it could not be connected to that….unless Grenville is crazier than everyone thinks..


  30. that is the problem with some of you because i know you were on the blog back then, yall can’t remember one shit but always ready to challenge…it was less than 4 years ago..another observation of abnormality..short memory syndrome…then ya will want to tell me that something is wrong with me..
    Xxxxxxx
    The $1m
    Was from if the took a bribe or something to that effect
    Xxxxxxxx

    @ Waru

    I DON’T LIKE DECEITFUL PEOPLE.

    WHENEVER YOU’RE PROVEN WRONG INSTEAD OF RETREATING YOU LIKE TO DOUBLE DOWN WITH YOUR IGNORANCE.

    A SIGN OF A MATURE INDIVIDUAL IS ADMITTING WHEN WRONG INSTEAD OF COMPOUNDING NONSENSICAL BEHAVIOR AND MISINFORMATION.


  31. You are the immature one, you have no clue what the hell am talking about but you want to tell me i don’t know what am talking about, at least John2 has the grace to say HE CANT REMEMBER…

    no one else has come out but you….and you STILL CAN’T TELL ME anything that i asked…..steuppps…


  32. John 2:

    The normal penalty was US$250,000, because that was the amount a VECO official was convicted for bribing a US Senator. You may remember that VECO were given projects in Barbados.

    The amount was to be paid to any group or organization willing to sign a contract with the member. Therefore, the member would have to pay US$250,000 to every contract, and the number of contracts were unlimited. The purpose was to discourage any Solutions Barbados member from accepting bribes (which they would certainly be offered) – they would not benefit from receiving any bribes.

    It was also to give members an excuse for not accepting bribes if threatened. The briber would need to pay an exorbitant amount to pay the penalties to all contracted parties. Therefore, the briber would likely seek an easier (non Solutions Barbados member) target.

    The penalty is part of our constitution, which was unanimously agreed. All of our candidates signed the contract. The contract expired on the day the election results were known (May 2018). Members were then free to extend their contracts (which most agreed to do), leave and join another party, exit politics, or do whatever they wished – without any sanction.

    The accusation of dictatorship is a lie. From the time there was more than one member, decisions were made democratically, by voting. The simple majority view prevailed.


  33. The normal penalty was US$250,000, because that was the amount a VECO official was convicted for bribing a US Senator. You may remember that VECO were given projects in Barbados.

    The amount was to be paid to any group or organization willing to sign a contract with the member. Therefore, the member would have to pay US$250,000 to every contract, and the number of contracts were unlimited. The purpose was to discourage any Solutions Barbados member from accepting bribes (which they would certainly be offered) – they would not benefit from receiving any bribes.

    Xxxxxx

    @ Waru

    STRAIGHT OUT THE HORSE’S MOUTH.

    ONCE AGAIN CAUGHT OUT POSTING FALSE INFORMATION AND CONTINUING WITH BOTH IGNORANCE AND ARROGANCE.

    YOU MAY AS USUAL HAVE THE FINAL WORD.


  34. @HA
    (feeling the earth move beneath my feet) Joking? How do you think DJT got that many votes? The candidate is very much who the voter thinks they are. AND what that candidate can do for THEM. There is some self-interest too.
    Almost everyday on this blog, there are calls for change. Yet when their is an option to change, one gets, ‘yeah I want change, but not this one, I want change for the better’. Electing GPII is a low risk strategy. If you don’t like what he contributes between now and 2023, don’t re-elect him?? What does TM do? get another wallflower Ministry. Let GPII battle with the Bishop for the opposition….who knows something positive may come of that.


    • @Northern Observer

      Your perspective is an application of ‘cold’ logic. Unfortunately such an approach is hardly followed in the real world for reasons you know well.


  35. “STRAIGHT OUT THE HORSE’S MOUTH.”

    you are just as dumb as Grenville…i specifically said, I BELIEVED…it was not a surety….i even asked those who may have remembered to contribute….i remembered about the million dollars but could not remember what the sanction for immigrating to another party was…..and as i said IT VIOLATES THE CONSTITUTION….and people’s RIGHT TO ASSOCIATE..that was the CASE the members were making…

    ..being corrupt has NOTHING TO DO WITH having the RIGHT TO ASSOCIATE with another political party….like Grenville you probably believe you are a lawyer too…while not having any training in the discipline..

    Besides.., it’s clear that you are looking for a POLITICIAN’S ASS TO LICK…anyone will do for you right now, but when ya try to cover up shit…ya reach this place where both or all political parties turn you to be the same…corrupt as hell and all DICTATORS wannabe…

    no one is going to elect Grenville for anything on the island based on those principles he’s espousing re violating a constitution,creating his OWN CONSTITUTION for Solutions, i remember that is what he called it…… or PEEPING INTO THE BEDROOMS OF ADULTS…., when there are already problems with the ELDERLY and their beneficiaries being robbed for decades of their ESTATES and the likes of Grenville REFUSES TO ADDRESS ANY OF THAT…or address the VIOLATIONS OF HUMAN RIGHTS IN THE SUPREME COURT…

    …ya seem to be just another PIMP FOR A POLITICIAN….but many of us don’t reduce ourselves to that level because we HAVE MUCH MORE IMPORTANT WORK TO DO…


  36. @Northern Observer

    I will leave it there. I think, in fact know, your argument is illogical. But I will opt out of the discussion. Keep on voting for who you think the candidate is?


  37. @robert lucas November 8, 2020 6:37 AM “I want this fellow Phillips to win. It is time the swamp in Barbados be drained. ”

    As a scientist, surely you know that swamps/wetlands are good useful places and should NOT be drained, lest harm is caused to the environment.

    If you want to rid Barbados of political corruption, please use a different analogy


  38. Have a virtual meeting, book time on TV.

    Rain hits campaign trail
    THE MET OFFICE was spot on.
    Barbados had a wet and windy day yesterday, with more than 50 millimetres of rain being dumped across communities, some of which led to heavy saturation in lowlying areas.
    And it even affected the campaign leading into Wednesday’s byelection in St George North.
    Yesterday’s inclement weather forced both the Barbados Labour Party (BLP) and the Democratic Labour Party (DLP) to postpone meetings set to be held at Thorpe’s Cottage and Bridge Cot, respectively.
    “Weather conditions are deteriorating, with heavy rains and flooding expected through the night. Party officials have decided that given the forecast, it would be an act of irresponsibility and insensitivity to expose the public to the bad weather,” the BLP said in a statement last night.
    The party also revealed it would hold an indoor public meeting tonight at 7 o’clock, at the St George Secondary School, where speakers will be Ministers Wilfred Abrahams, Ryan Straughn, Dale Marshall, Santia Bradshaw, and Kerrie Symmonds; Ambassador Liz Thompson; former MP Gline Clarke; candidate Toni Moore, and Prime Minister Mia Amor Mottley.
    George Pilgrim, campaign manager for the Democratic Labour Party candidate Floyd Reifer, last night said they had postponed their meeting until today at the same venue.
    More bad weather can be expected again today.
    Last week, the Met Office gave Barbadians an early warning that the start of this week could be a rainy one, due to a number of upper-level troughs which were expected to move across the Eastern Caribbean.
    The Barbados Meteorological Service yesterday introduced a flash flood warning which will stay in effect until conditions improve today.
    “Low-level moisture being advected from the equatorial regions coupled with upperlevel divergence over the island has been generating cloudy to overcast skies and moderate to heavy showers across Barbados,” the Met Office said in an evening statement.
    “These conditions are expected to continue overnight, with a second peak of rainfall activity expected after midnight into the early hours of the morning.
    “During this period, flooding is likely, with maximum accumulations of up to 30mm forecast over some sections of the island,” the Met Office had said in its 6 p.m. bulletin yesterday.
    The Government department added that residents and visitors should be aware that some soil erosion on bared or scarred land surfaces could occur, along with water settlements on roads and fields.
    (BA)


  39. Besides.., it’s clear that you are looking for a POLITICIAN’S ASS TO LICK…anyone will do for you right now, but when ya try to cover up shit…ya reach this place where both or all political parties turn you to be the same…corrupt as hell and all DICTATORS wannabe…

    Xxx xxx xxx xxx

    REALLY SHOULDN’T BE RESPONDING TO YOU AS YOU ARE NOT ONLY SHOWING YOUR STUPIDITY BUT ALSO ASININE TENDENCY TO CONTINUE WALLOWING IN YOUR OWN SHIT.

    I DON’T LIVE ON THE 2 X 3 ISLAND AND I EARN WAY MORE THAN ANY POLITICIAN LOCAL SINCE I OWN A BUSINESS OVERSEAS SO I DON’T SEE WHY I WOULD NEED TO BE LICKING ANY POLITICIAN ASS.

    YOU NEED TO BACKOFF WHEN EXPOSED. HOWEVER YOU ARE TOO STUBBORN THAT YOU WILL ALWAYS CONTINUE TO SHOW YOUR ASS WHETHER RIGHT OR WRONG.


  40. @Grenville Phillips II ” We can train all families in St George North to start profitable businesses, with no start-up money.”

    How?

    Details please.

    And some people don’t want to go into business. What about those people who like and desire a “good government job” not too much hard work, long lunch hours, at least 4 weeks vacation, a real-real steady pay check, a guaranteed pension for life?

    Just like some longtime MP’s. Just like judges, just like Governor’s General [you know don’t you that the Canadian GG pick is only for 5 years. No lifetime pick there. Betta find a wuk after the 5 years is up] Just like some of the BU intelligencia.

    What about those people?


  41. Maybe the more sensible people of St. George North want a political class pick just like Parliamentarians have, just like Grenville may get. Be elected by the people, “serve” 2 terms even if that is less that 10 years, and then at age 50 begin collecting a tax payer funded pension for LIFE..while “suckers” like me have to put in 44.3 years before collecting me li’l ha’penny from the NIS. And I hear [don’t know if it is true] that PM’s and GG’s and CJ’s collect their full TAX PAYER funded salary as a pension to preserve their status or dignity or sumpting so while the rest ;o we are considered “lucky” if our NIS pensions to which we have contributed are even 25% of our accustomed salaries. I guess that ordinarty elderly tax payers have no dignity that needs to be honored.

    I mean who wants the insecurity, hard work and sleepless nights of being in business, when being in politics is a much, much sweeter deal.

    If I lived in St. George North, I would demand a political class pick.


  42. @Donna November 8, 2020 10:21 AM “GP 2 believes that Trump has done very well by black people. Stands to reason he will be sorry to see him go.”

    Clearly the black people in the USA do NOT share Grenville’s views on Trump as they “said” in the polling booth.


  43. “I DON’T LIVE ON THE 2 X 3 ISLAND AND I EARN WAY MORE THAN ANY POLITICIAN LOCAL SINCE I OWN A BUSINESS OVERSEAS SO I DON’T SEE WHY I WOULD NEED TO BE LICKING ANY POLITICIAN ASS.”

    who cares what you own, there are people on the island don’t GET A DAILY MEAL…you should ask Grenville why he don’t take his VAST engineering income and open SOUP KITCHENS to feed the hungry without looking for a VOTE…

    instead you are trying to foist a clown on the people with ya stupidity, not knowing the history of Grenville and he commenters on the blog……..nothing you say can CHANGE WHAT HAPPENED WITH GRENVILLE AND HIS members who ran way from him and joined another party because of his dictator ways and violation of the constitution

    …, again , it was in the newspapers, no one have to make anything up…ya may as well give it up, cause everything ya post makes ya look dumber and dumber…seeing as Grenville and people on this blog and even on FB had a roaring fight over his bullshit policies for about a year…or more, Piece is still bitching about them…stay in ya lane..


  44. Grenville is just looking for some big country ally to suck up to like somebody got the time….steupps…maybe he can help them pay their massive debts…


  45. @Mariposa November 8, 2020 10:32 AM “… shuts out barbados economy from countries which barbados drpends on for forex…”

    Why don’t you let your good buddy Hal “educate” you on forex?

    Lol!!!


  46. @Hants November 8, 2020 9:21 AM “no start-up money.”

    Grenville who is from a solid middle class, well educated professional family is unlikely ever to have experienced “no money”

    No money is when a person has no busfare to get to work that day, so get up long before dawn and walk 3 or 4 miles to work.

    Or no food that day, because the children had to get the little food that was left. No money means drinking a cup a ginger tea at lunch time and going right back to work pretending to be satisfied


  47. @nextparty246 November 8, 2020 12:51 PM ” However, I cannot start such a company and still be a Consulting Engineer – it is unethical.”

    Can you explain how and why it would be unethical to start an NGO while still being a consulting engineer?

    Thanks.


  48. again , it was in the newspapers, no one have to make anything up…ya may as well give it up, cause everything ya post makes ya look dumber and dumber…seeing as Grenville and people on this blog and even on FB had a roaring fight over his bullshit policies for about a year…or more, Piece is still bitching about them…stay in ya lane..
    Xxx xxx xxx

    FINALLY COMING TO REALIZATION OF YOURSELF.

    IT IS ALWAYS GOOD TO TAKE A LONG HARD LOOK IN THE MIRROR.


  49. Am yet to see any of these half-assed politicians on the island open a food pantry to help the starving with 3 squares a day, or open a homeless shelter or 2 for those sleeping in parks and public spaces in the city and DYING ON THE STREETS, we are only now hearing about a new care home for the elderly now it HAS BEEN EXPOSED, hope there is no plan afoot as is the norm to STEAL these vulnerable people’s properties and ROB their beneficiaries of their inheritance………they do not intend to ever serve the people…ONLY THEIR DUMB SELVES..while pretending to be world class and punching above some delusional obese weight….only the dimwitted would see them as having a leadership qualities…i won’t encourage anyone to vote for any of them, but the reality is, the shite system was set up for this exact destruction..


  50. @GreenMonkey November 8, 2020 5:39 PM “UK government to provide elderly and vulnerable with Vitamin D supplements. Millions of elderly and vulnerable will get free Vitamin D from government as evidence grows that it helps in battle against Covid-19 People shielding will be sent enough supplies of the vitamin to last four months It comes after Matt Hancock decided to act fast due to evidence about benefits Study found 80 per cent of Covid-19 victims in hospital were Vitamin D deficient.”

    But GreenMonkey in Barbados vitamin D is also free. It comes from the sun, or as our friend Miller would say from God the Sun. All a Bajan has to do to get enough Vitamin D any day of the year is to spend an hour everyday in the sunshine.

    Now how difficult is that?

    But of course government offices harass WOMEN especially for wearing “armholes” And all religions practiced in lovely sunny Barbados were born in the Middle East and matured in cold grey Europe, Judiasm, Christianity, Islam and Rastafari DEMANDS that women cover up. This covering up is an idiotic idea foreign to the tropics and should be thrown out the window.

    Into the life giving sunshine.

    P.S. I have heard on that all covid19 patients in Barbados are made to sit in the sunshine for at for at least one hour each day, and if they are not tied to a ventilator they can actually spend all day outside.

    Outside is good. Going outside now to work in the ground. Bones as strong as those of a 18 year old.


  51. @GP@ “The penalty is part of our constitution, which was unanimously agreed. All of our candidates signed the contract. The contract expired on the day the election results were known (May 2018). Members were then free to extend their contracts (which most agreed to do), leave and join another party, exit politics, or do whatever they wished – without any sanction.”

    A person cannot agree to sign away a constitutional right. The right to associate or not to associate is absolute.


  52. I can sign away my parents, spouse or children, but I have no right to sign away my constitutional rights.


  53. If I was in St. George North, and I am not,, I would not vote for GP2. He is too religious for my taste. I am not big on misogynistic Middle Eastern religions. All of them.


  54. @ Hal November 8, 2020 7:10 AM

    If he wins he will attract others. The two main parties are like swine at the feeding trough.


  55. Cuhdear Bajan,

    To be fair, GP 2 is not misogynistic. Before I became a cyberbully, he and I agreed against GP 1 about a woman’s place as described in the bible.

    He is not bound by the fundamentalist or literalist approach to gender roles.


  56. @ Cuhdear BajanNovember 9, 2020 7:20 AM
    “If I was in St. George North, and I am not,, I would not vote for GP2. He is too religious for my taste. I am not big on misogynistic Middle Eastern religions. All of them.”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    You, “Silly Woman”, have waited a bit late to find that out!

    All ‘ME’ religions are extremely misogynistic except the Baháʼí Faith which is a direct descendant of Zoroastrianism.

    Now you ought to drop the Anglicanism BS started by Henry V111, a killer of women, and spread by a coterie of homosexual men like King James to brainwash control blacks like you.


  57. “WURA,

    You are wrong. The problem was the big fines if caught in corruption.”

    first of all YOU WERE NOT ON THE BLOG YET WHEN ALL OF THAT WENT DOWN..

    that’s why I REFUSE to mix up the two,

    we know all about Grenville’s DELUSION teenage plan to deal with corruptioin through FINES.. which did not make sense then and STILL DON’T NOW…..that has nothing to do with what am speaking about.

    AGAIN…this has EVERYTHING TO DO WITH WHY the members of Solutions BAILED ON GRENVILLE went to the NEWSPAPERS and EXPOSED the fact that h was VIOLATING THEIR RIGHT TO ASSOCIATE with any other political party…am not the one put that in the newspapers….FOR THE WHOLE ISLAND TO SEE…

    he was chatting that fines shit right throw his campaign and no one left the party over it, while we beat him up on BU about…the straw that broke the camel’s back WAS VIOLATIING THEIR RIGHT TO ASSOCIATE….violating the constitution…


  58. AGAIN…this has EVERYTHING TO DO WITH WHY the members of Solutions BAILED ON GRENVILLE went to the NEWSPAPERS and EXPOSED the fact that h was VIOLATING THEIR RIGHT TO ASSOCIATE with any other political party…am not the one put that in the newspapers….FOR THE WHOLE ISLAND TO SEE

    that happened IMMEDIATELY AFTER the election in 2018…all the time they knew about the contract they SIGNED about fines and corruption and NEVER LEFT THE PARTY….until after election…if yall don’t know what ya talking about, allow someone WHO WAS AROUND in those times comment. WHO HAS A MEMORY.


  59. Former members of the fledging political party Solutions Barbados have castigated the leadership style of their once boss Grenville Phillips II.

    A statement, signed by past members Alan Springer, Paul Gibson and Irvin Belgrave, itemised other concerns such as a contract used “as a control mechanism for keeping candidates in the party, lack of a democratic process and being punished if they failed to sign the original contract”.

    They said “there was no consultation process, members were simply given directives that had to be followed. Running of the party was subject to ad hoc personal decisions . . . . There was also continual refusal, in the face of requests, for the party to be opened up to membership from the wider public as is standard practice”.

    The aggrieved former candidates in the last General Election also charged there was “a preponderance of religious instruction given by Grenville, which greatly hampered the work of Solutions Barbados as a political party . . . . This created a deep-seated contention, conflict and distrust within the party”.

    Phillips’ leadership, “presented a certain stiffness, detachment and disconnect between the leader and the public at large. It was constantly made apparent that Grenville does not have the confidence nor the trust of the electorate”.

    The signatories said a “final olive branch was offered by those having challenges with the leadership style, putting forward certain conditions for us to carry on under the Solutions Barbados banner . . . . Unfortunately, Grenville refused that olive branch”.

    Phillips, in thanking all the candidates “for their brave decision to run with Solutions Barbados”, said the process and result affected people in different ways, “which is normal”.

    He also said most of the candidates had committed to the next general election but others wanted “us to re-evaluate our mandatory contract requirement for membership”.

    “I am only president for one year, and if the members are unhappy with my leadership, then they are free to vote for another to lead them.

    “From the time that we had members, issues were discussed, and if we could not come to a consensus, then the majority vote ruled. Most of my positions were voted against and there was never any repercussions for anyone who voted against my position,” said Phillips.


  60. Grenville can be too damn deceitful…

    there is a big complaint on FB regarding a Black dude from UK staying at Sandy Lane in Black MAJORITY Barbados and being profiled BY THE BLACK ASSES WORKING AT THE HOTEL for the color of his skin because in their slave minds he is too black to be staying there…glad he exposed yall stupid backward mentally enslaved nobodies…

    …..these are the types of things Grenville and Mia and all the other wannabes should be dealing with…removing the RACISM and APARTHEID AGAINST BLACK PEOPLE ON THE ISLAND….but no, he is trying to convince the people of St. George to vote him in so he can continue a power trip and Mia is enabling these crimes against Black people…and when ya talk out against it, clowns want to pick up fire rage…

    all any of these half-assed politicians are looking for is …CONROL OVER BLACK PEOPLE to continue the slave society…


  61. WURA,

    I changed my mind. You are correct.

    Boy, Grenville is worse than I thought. Time to put back on my cyber bully hat??????


  62. Where the hell does Grenville come up with these things????!!!!

    What planet does he inhabit??????

    No wonder he cannot present any members of his party!

    I am beginning to believe there aren’t any.


  63. As the dude put it on BLM UK and other platforms, everyone in UK and everywhere else will hear about the illiterate Black and white racists in Barbados, who are to be treated like the pariahs that they are, that tourism shite wanting SHUTTING DOWN PERMANENTLY…


  64. “Boy, Grenville is worse than I thought.”

    you have no clue what we went through with Grenville…Piece is PERMANENTLYA PISSED at him..

    i give him some leeway sometimes but ya always have to be on guard with that type of retrograde mind…..the only grace, if ya want to call it that…THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME LOWGRADE, wannabe slavemaster mind..


  65. @ Donna November 9, 2020 10:51 AM
    “No wonder he cannot present any members of his party!
    I am beginning to believe there aren’t any.”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Why did it take you that long to figure out?

    If you want a ‘rationally insightful’ evaluation of GP11 (aka Bedroom Police) political persona just read Piece de Prophet’s assessment of the man.

    You only have to read GP11’s proposals on taxation and you would see that the man belongs to another solar system.


  66. Cuhdear:

    Re: Training Families.

    Please note that I am the 2014 winner of the National Innovation Competition. Since 2015, I have been holding free workshops (8 weeks) where we start businesses, with the aim of getting their products in the US market, and taking advantage of the very favourable double taxation agreement and the 5% withholding tax.

    All of this is done without any start-up capital. The workshops were advertised and were always free to the public. You are encouraged to attend the next one.

    Re: Pension.

    If we won the Government, our plan was to abolish the lifetime pension arrangement. Parliamentarians would simply receive a contribution to their RRSPs while they serve.

    Re: Being a Consulting Engineer and a Contractor.

    It is unethical for me to evaluate tenders, recommend the awarding of construction contracts, and certifying the work of contractors – while competing with them. In the interests of fairness, the no-profit construction company will limit its work to houses, rather that compete on projects where I have supervised the work of medium to large contractors.

    Re: Constitutional Right to Associate.

    The Constitution of Barbados states: “Except with his own consent, no person shall be hindered in the enjoyment of his freedom of assembly and association, that is to say, his right to assemble freely and associate with other persons and in particular to form or belong to political parties or to form or belong to trade unions or other associations for the protection of his interests.” (Section 21.1)

    So, we are free to associate “except with his own consent”.

    We are free to join Solutions Barbados, the BLP, DLP etc. Each party requires their candidates to “consent” to give up their right to be members of a competing party while they remain candidates. This is normal.

    You can join Wanderers cricket team, and when you are finished, you can then join Empire – you cannot play for both. You can work for ScotiaBank, and when you are finished, you can then work for First Caribbean – you cannot work for both. You can be candidate for the BLP, and if you wish, you can end your membership and join the DLP. You are not hindered, but you “consent” to work exclusively for only one at any one time.

    Some Solutions Barbados candidates wanted the freedom to join Solutions Barbados and another competing party at the same time. They interpreted the Barbados Constitution as giving them this right. They were given two weeks to convince all members of their interpretation, and as normal, a vote was then held to decide the matter.

    The majority voted for exclusivity (as is practised in all competing organisations in Barbados). Those who disagreed with the majority then left the party, and some later wrote untrue statements in the press – which were copied here.


  67. Not being in power is one thing, Solutions exmembers probably thought if they captured the parliament they would just ignore all Grenville’s shite, but they didn’t and then he decided he would capture THEM instead and they weren’t having any of it…that kind of backwardness played out in 2018, the 21st century…

    it’s a he said he said scenario…. Grenville said they are lying although one of them had some kinda paper in their hand , and they said Grenville is lying which makes none of them fit to lead anyone….it was a back and forth with Grenville translating the constitution to suit himself…either way, you cannot take away anyone’s right to ASSOCIATE..with any group…blah, blah, blah.


  68. We need Piece de Prophet
    Xxxxxxxxx

    A MAN WHO HAS LIED THAT MIA MOTTLEY AND HER PEOPLE TRIED TO FIREBOMB HIS OVERSEAS HOME 3 TIMES BECAUSE OF HIS CRITICISM OF HER AND THE BLP.

    WHO EVEN TRIED TO PROMOTE A FRAUDULENT GOFUNDME SITE ON BU THAT FAILED TO GET OFF THE GROUND.

    THAT IS ARDENT AND SOLE SUPPORTER OF PDP.

    THAT IS THE INDIVIDUAL SOME OF YOU ARE CALLING FOR.

    NO WONDER THE 2X3 ISLAND IS F**KED UP.

    I DON’T SUPPORT EITHER DLP OR BLP AND WOULD LIKE A THIRD PARTY TO GET IN WHETHER UPP, PDP OR SOLUTIONS DOESN’T MATTER BECAUSE THE ISLAND NEEDS TO GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.

    @ HAL

    HAVE NO PROBLEM GRENVILLE PROMOTING HIS BACKGROUND I LIKENED IT TO MANY OF YOU PROMOTION OF YOUR OLD HIGH SCHOOL AS THOUGH STUCK IN A TIME WARP.

    WHAT I CAN AGREE WITH IS KNOWING OUTSIDE OF GRENVILLE THE ACTUAL NAMES OF ALL THE OTHERS ON SOLUTIONS’ TEAM IF ANY AS MANY TIMES GRENVILLE REFERS TO WE.


  69. There is an article in the Guardian exposing many crimes committed against slaves in the Caribbean, one of the those evil experiments involved BREEDING FEAR and SECRECY into them generationally, that one worked like a charm in Barbados…it’s still ongoing today..they still don’t realize that they are slave masters’ EXPERIMENTS….when they do, they can breed out the Grenvilles and all the other wannabe slavemasters who morph into slaves when they see anyone who does not look like them…and then end up selling out the people, the treasury, pension fund, supreme court..they sell out their people as THEY WERE BRED TO…

    welcome to reality..


  70. “Some Solutions Barbados candidates wanted the freedom to join Solutions Barbados and another competing party at the same time.”

    which is crazy, the constitution is clear, only crazy people would want to be members of two political parties at the same time…..which highlights my point, none are fit for office at taxpayer’s expense..

    Grenville will get away with that story because i can’t remember the exact circumstances leading up to that mess, too much has happened in the last 2 years..


  71. John2:

    Other Solutions Barbados Candidates write frequently, especially on Facebook. They do not write here for obvious reasons.

    Please note that ten declared Solutions Barbados candidates for 2023 have been on our website since the 2018 general election.


  72. Yall wont stop the nasty racist tourism against black people…ENJOY YA FAME, YA FAMOUS Enuff…couldn’t have chosen a better famous black person to be racist to..lol..lemme see yall blaming UK for that….black face racists, white face racists, all racist against Black people in a Black majority country……ah wonder how that will look on African Diaspora Channel. Told yall it will bite ya asses one day, been telling ya that for YEARS…

    http://www.loopnewsbarbados.com/content/tinie-tempah-accuses-sandy-lane-discrimination

    “British rapper Tinie Tempah accuses Sandy Lane of racial profiling
    KATRINA KING CREATED : 9 NOVEMBER 2020BARBADOS NEWS(Instagram) British rapper Tinie Tempah
    (Instagram) British rapper Tinie Tempah

    Award-winning British rapper Tinie Tempah has accused Barbados’ luxury five-diamond resort Sandy Lane of racism.

    Tinie, real name Patrick Chukwuemeka Okogwu Jr. touched down in Barbados to celebrate his 32nd birthday which was on November 7. He took to Instagram on November 8, to vocalize his outrage at the disappointing conclusion to his celebrations and criticise the management at the St James resort for their poor handling of the situation.

    Recounting the alleged situation, Tinie stated that he was racially profiled by the security at the hotel while walking into the gym.

    “I was stopped by a security guard and aggressively challenged about why I was there. He assumed I couldn’t have been a guest, despite telling him I was. When I tried to raise this and other issues with management, they were incredibly rude and condescending,” he said on his social media page.

    In an eight-second clip, you see management walking away from the Grammy-award winning rapper as he attempted to address his concerns.

    The rapper went on to tell his followers that the incident was a reminder that “there are still places where deep down they don’t think you can ever really belong”. He reminded them that “every human being deserves to be treated with respect”.

    Since publishing the post on Sunday, November 8, Tinie has garnered support internationally. Additionally, Barbadians have flooded his comment section apologising for his experience. In 24 hours, the post on his Instagram feed gainedover 8,800 likes and more than 530 comments.

    When contacted by Loop News, management at Sandy Lane Hotel declined to comment but promised to issue a statement in response to the incident.”


  73. Nasty, rude disrespectful piece of shit in Barbados who only want to see people WHO DON’T LOOK BLACK…and that’s what the black faces of parliament promote, maintain and elevate …OR IT COULD NEVER STILL BE HAPPENING in a black majority country in the 21st century….ENJOY YA EMBARRASSMENT.


  74. Miller…if Mia and any other black faces in the parliament dont ABOLISH and CRIMINALIZE that racism against Black people now…then they will get a front row seat to see what BLACK PEOPLE CAN REALLY DO….they believe because they have used fear and secrecy to frighten black people in Barbados for decades, that all black people are afraid of them….MFs.


  75. GP2

    Why don’t they write here ? The reason is not obvious to me

    Everyone is not on Facebook

    If they are on your website then they are already known. Why are they not vocal/ more active ?

    Most people can only name one member of SB from the top of their heads .


  76. FWIW:
    (~_~)

    The Contract

    1.1 Introduction of a contract as ‘accountability’

    A contract was introduced in December 2017 for all Solutions Barbados candidates to sign, sometime after the launch of candidates in November, after candidates had been members for approximately six months; after flyers had been printed and after candidates had already started their constituency campaigns. The contract therefore was not introduced as a condition of joining the party, but was clearly a control mechanism for keeping candidates in the party and a carefully enforced way of maintaining loyalty to Solutions Barbados and to Grenville Phillips II.

    1.2 Lack of a democratic process

    All decisions were made via a directive from Grenville Phillips II, as in the case of the contract. Grenville stated the purpose of the contract was to inhibit anyone from voting against Solutions Barbados policies or from crossing the floor and that it was intended to create “fear and intimidation”. Candidates were bound over in the sum of US$250,000 to Walbrent College or alternatively to “any other charity who were willing to hold candidates accountable”. When a number of candidates sought advice about the contract over a number of months, the advice was always not to sign as it was unethical and infringed certain statutory rights. The problem concretized sometime in April 2018, when candidates asked for the removal of those clauses which removed those statutory rights, in particular the right of freedom of speech and of freedom of association.

    1.3 Punitive measures

    Those candidates who challenged the contract were subsequently punished in being presented with a new contract whereby they were bound over only to Walbrent College in the increased sum of US$1million. Grenville Phillips is the sole proprietor of Walbrent College so in fact it was Grenville Phillips to whom everyone was being coerced to sign over their statutory rights, and Grenville Phillips who would be the sole beneficiary to any claim on the contract.

    1.4 Manipulation and Coercion

    By April, candidates were fully committed in their constituencies and to their constituents; having been campaigning now for five months. Therefore the only solution to the dilemma was to sign the contract under duress, so that we could complete the work started and to remain a candidate in the forthcoming election. This was a subtle method of manipulation and coercion.

    Leadership Style

    Grenville’s leadership style was to instruct, direct, manipulate and coerce.

    2.1 Singular and autocratic leadership

    The style was dictatorial and authoritative, circumventing all other positions and ideas, which were not listened to nor given any credence whatsoever. There was no consultation process, members were simply given directives that had to be followed.

    2.2 Lack of leadership structure, processes and procedures

    Running of the party was subject to ad hoc personal decisions made by Grenville. For example, it was his decision solely who was or who was not a candidate and this fluctuated according to his mood at any given time. There was a reluctance as well as inability to move the party forward by establishing the right facilitating structures and processes, for example, ignoring the call for a SWOT analysis of the election experience on the grounds that it is only applicable to businesses and not to the party. There was also continual refusal in the face of requests, for the party to be opened up to membership from the wider public as is standard practise.

    2.3 Single-handed religiosity

    There was a preponderance of religious instruction given by Grenville, which greatly hampered the work of Solutions Barbados as a political party. These instructions were given without any confirmation by others, the normal course when guided by spiritual consideration. This created a deep-seated contention, conflict and distrust within the party.

    2.4 Imagery and representation

    Feedback on the public image of Grenville’s leadership, both externally and internally, presented a certain stiffness, detachment and disconnect between the leader and the public at large. It was constantly made apparent that Grenville does not have the confidence nor the trust of the electorate.

    2.5 Lack of consistency

    The inconsistency with which information was communicated was a concern, with the “facts” often shifting and vacillating. This was a growing concern from the very beginning.

    2.6 Lies and deception

    The leadership style was laced with lies, misrepresentations and deception, made worse when these were often aimed at the public. For example, for a time Grenville maintained a public face of 28 candidates, knowing he had demoted a number of candidates to the status of associate members over an internal dispute, so in fact there were only 22 candidates at that time. This lying to the public is capped by the recent press statement where Grenville stated that no one had left Solutions Barbados but were simply “taking a break to take care of business”, and that everyone intended signing the contract. This is patently not true.

    Moving Forward

    3.1 A change of leadership necessary

    As we see it, the way forward for Solutions Barbados as a political party in Barbados required leadership that demonstrated dynamism, engagement with people and a certain degree of charisma. Grenville’s leadership has been sadly lacking in this interpersonal skillset. For example, a mere two days after the election, at a meeting called on 26th May, each member was singled out and asked whether they planned to continue as members of the party, despite a plea from some members that this was not the time, and that a debrief was more suited. This pressure was followed up the next day with a demand to sign a new contract for those planning to continue. This brought matters to a head.

    3.2 Final Olive Branch

    A final olive branch was offered by those having challenges with the leadership style, putting forward certain conditions for us to carry on under the Solutions Barbados banner. It was hoped Barbadians could continue to view the party as a viable alternative to the established parties, and that we could build on the elections by ensuring a genuine voice of representation. Unfortunately Grenville refused that olive branch and instead took the step of removing members, who had tendered their resignations.

    3.3 Our commitment

    Moving forward, one thing that is clear for this group is our commitment to what is best for Barbados and our constituents. We will ensure that we remain a voice to the nation on matters of national importance and continue to give Barbadians a clear understanding of what is happening behind the political and governmental curtain. This will, we hope, evolve into something more concrete in the years leading up to the next general elections.

    3.4 Counter signatures

    The foregoing is countersigned by the following candidates on behalf of others who have had to take the difficult decision to part ways with Solutions Barbados. We hope also that we have been able to represent some of those left behind who sympathize, but for fear or other reasons, don’t feel able to say.

    Signatories to the Press Statement

    Alan Springer

    Paul Gibson

    Irvin Belgrave


  77. Oh dear, dear me! This must have happened in a period when I had tuned out for a while.

    And the man had the gall to call me a cyberbully???????????

    WTH??????????????


  78. WURA,

    Re Loop News article. Nothing to doubt here. We shall await the statement from management and see what they manage to concoct.


  79. I remember when Grenville was hot to implement ISO in the civil service, he had this meeting with them and had the audacity to tell them if they don’t enforce the policies, he will fire them, am like, Grenville, ya can’t fire them, YOU HAVE NOT YET BEEN ELECTED TO PARLIAMENT….ya don’t tell them that BEFORE and expect them to vote for you…

    well apparently Grenville did not like my tone, so he thought he was dealing with a Bajan with all that entails, but ya done know am not the one…


  80. We shall await the statement from management and see what they manage to concoct.

    i saw part of the video…the piece of shit racist was nasty, uppity and dismissive…just as the black faces in the parliament enable and condone.


  81. Remember they just made a big splash about dumping Elizabeth and her crown, they say they nah want no racist monarchy anymore sah….but ah been telling them since that day to give back Elizabether her slave system…..so they CANNOT say that UK is still forcing them to have the island infested and infected with the racism, apartheid, exploition and oppression of the Black majority on the island…..ah dare them to come with that bullshit story……

    they even made a big as brass video for African Diaspora Channel on the removal of nelson, like it’s some ritual…..ah only posted it yesterday……….🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


  82. I published the following article in June 2018 in response – which was also published here.

    Wounded Warriors.

    On 26 June 2018, three former Solutions Barbados candidates signed a press statement with accusations, each of which are easily proven to be false. The media requested a response, which I provided, but it was not fairly published. Hence, this article.
    I want to again publicly thank all 28 of our candidates for their brave decision to run with Solutions Barbados in the 2018 general election.

    Most of our candidates have committed to continuing to the next general election for which we plan to run a full slate of candidates. Others have decided to dedicate more time to their businesses and may rejoin us later. A few have decided that they have had enough of politics, and we thank them for their service. However, there are a few who wanted us to, once again, revaluate our mandatory contract requirement for membership.

    Solutions Barbados is organised in accordance with a Constitution that underwent 7 major revisions before it was unanimously adopted. Although I founded the organisation, I did not request any special place for myself in our constitution. I founded the organisation and then gave it away to all candidates. I currently have the same power that the most recent member has – namely, a single vote.

    I am only president because I was unanimously voted to this position at our annual general meeting. Like all other members of the executive committee, I serve for one year. If the members are unhappy with my leadership, then they are encouraged to vote for another to lead them. I will then remain faithful to the new leadership.

    From the time that we had members, issues were discussed. If we could not come to a consensus, then the majority vote ruled. On contentious issues, voting was by secret ballot. I have always respected the majority vote, especially when it went against my preferred position, which was frequently.

    The requirement for a contract is written in our constitution. Regardless of my personal preference, only the members can change our constitution. The members recently met and once again voted to keep the contract as a mandatory condition for membership, as they have repeatedly and consistently done. The contract is designed to keep us accountable to the people of Barbados, with a severe financial penalty if we accept bribes. The entire penalty must be distributed to all responsible registered charities in Barbados.

    I have served 3 terms as President of the Barbados Association of Professional Engineers, 2 terms as President of the Combermere School Old Scholars Association, 2 terms as the President of the Barbados Coalition of Service Industries, and now President of Solutions Barbados, each time by acclaim. I have never lobbied for a such leadership positions, and when elected, I have always tried to lead responsibly. I have never attracted such accusations before I entered the political arena.

    Once we had candidates, I tried to not only lead but shepherd them, since we were all new to politics and were aware of the potential harm to our reputations. I have done my best to shield them all from any harm. I covered them with my unblemished reputation when they were accused, and purposely attracted criticism to myself when they were attacked. I asked them to never defend me since I had neither skeletons to hide nor closets to keep them in. I tried to ensure that all of them finished this campaign with their reputations enhanced, and with no debts.

    I am aware that the general election results affected persons differently. Those of us who have chosen to continue saw the result in a positive light. We started with no votes and gained over 4,000. However, some took it personally, thinking that they were rejected by the public after canvassing so earnestly.

    I do not know their pain, or why they have chosen to lash out in this manner. It is fortunate that they have directed their disappointment towards me, and as their former leader, I accept this new role also.

    One should not publicly criticise a warrior who was wounded in battle, and lashes out during his recovery. In a similar manner, I will not publicly criticise any of our brave candidates who ran in the 2018 general election.

    Grenville Phillips II is a Chartered Structural Engineer and the founder of Solutions Barbados. He can be reached at NextParty246@gmail.com


  83. @nextpart246
    “Most of our candidates have committed to continuing to the next general election for which we plan to run a full slate of candidates. Others have decided to dedicate more time to their businesses and may rejoin us later. A few have decided that they have had enough of politics, and we thank them for their service. However, there are a few who wanted us to, once again, revaluate our mandatory contract requirement for membership.”

    Merely my opinion from afar. This statement is what gets you in trouble. This “most”, “others”, a “few” and a “few”. Meanwhile what is SEEN, is ??? SB candidates from the 2018 election in Atherley’s ‘shadow cabinet’, one running against you in SGN, another in the party apparatus of the DLP. Obviously none of these ‘have had enough of politics’, so now add those who have ‘had enough’ to what has been SEEN, and the question is how many is “most” who remain?

    Politicians learn to avoid specifics. Some stayed, some left for other political opportunities, and some quit politics.


  84. “One of Britain’s most influential musicians accused Barbados’ most luxurious hotel resort of racial profiling.

    And yesterday Sandy Lane indicated it had apologised to Tinie Tempah, a British award-winning rapper who shot to fame a little over a decade ago.”

    No one wants any halfassed apology from slimy racists in Barbados, the island is FAMOUS for being racist against Black people, the majority on the island has SUFFERED this crime against themselves since emancipation and perpetrated with the collusion of every black face fraud who has ever entered that haunted house parliament….after being so nasty and disrespectful to the man, who the hell accepting any apology from RACISTS…..each and everyone of you will now be EXPOSED BEFORE THE WORLD….stinking nobodies.

    When i told the clowns of parliament for years that RACISM will be the catalyst to expose their dumb, backward asses, they acted as though i was the enemy…but yall are going to DISMANTLE RACISM, OPPRESSION AND EXPLOITATION OF THE BLACK MAJORITY….ONE WAY OR THE OTHER….the racists themselves will bring you ignorant negros down……mark my words, put that in ya marijuana pipes and smoke them….


  85. “I picked up what kind of crazy Grenville is but I did not know the degree.”

    Girl, when i was warned about him, i too gave him the benefit of the doubt, UNTIL….never imagined the person was actually warning me so my mental health could be preserved from that level of destruction..


  86. See how these LIARS and FRAUDS love to cover up, even today some of these black faces from the parliament CAN’T go to these establishments wthout getting a heavy dose of the same racism practiced on them, they can’t even go through the front doors, they too BLACK and have to go through the BACK DOOR.

    …but this one will come out with the pretend damage control…TOO LATE…the world has already been informed about you cover up LIARS…and it’s not allegations IT’S A FACT…the cock up was the racists did not know the dude is a goddamm award winning Grammy artist, who GOT INTERNATIONAL PULL and can SHUT YA RACIST ASSES RIGHT DOWN..

    what image what, Barbados is a well known RACIST COUNTRY AGAINST BLACK PEOPLE…

    ABOLISH the RACISM…imprision the nobody whites, indians, syrians and others who train their low paid black employees to be RACIST TO OTHER BLACK PEOPLE…..if yall really want something to do, and don’t take any more BRIBES to continue the practice…..yall lie too much.. ..people are posting the truth on social media and yall JUMP OUT TO LIE…good going, see who will be believed more, it’s on.

    “Allegations of racism, like the ones levelled against the Sandy Lane Hotel by British rapper Tinie Tempuh could have damaging consequences on the country’s image.

    This was the assessment of Tourism Minister Senator Lisa Cummins who has refused to attribute blame on an alleged incident that unfolded on the sprawling West Coast property.

    But whether true or false, she is distancing ‘brand Barbados’ from any negative perceptions that may have resulted.

    “We are not in a position where we could say that the facts are this or the facts are that, because those things would be specific to the hotel. But what we do have to also be concerned about is the perception of Barbados as a destination, because when these things go from the public space to the international, you’re not seeing a single property. You are only seeing where that property is located, and whether true or false, as a destination, we still have to be concerned about image,” she told Barbados TODAY.”


  87. Check out the LIE…she can’t even bring herself to mention COLOR…where is skin color in that lie, conveniently left out of course….”.anti-discrimination on the basis of gender, sex, religion, sexual orientation”…..

    .WHERE IS THE MENTION OF SKIN COLOR, WHERE IS AFRICAN ANCESTRY…???? ya represent everyone else EXCEPT AFRICAN DESCENDED PEOPLE…..yall haunted house FRAUDS…

    “I can’t say that it is something that you see often, but one time if it presents itself is too many,” she told Barbados TODAY.

    “I think brand Barbados as you have seen is about anti-discrimination of any kind. That includes anti-discrimination on the basis of gender, sex, religion, sexual orientation . . . . So that is brand Barbados and that is who we represent at all times and in all spaces,” the Tourism Minister stressed.

    “So Barbados does take a dim view of anything that does speak to discrimination of any kind, wherever it presents itself at any time.”

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