180 Years of Emancipation- Some Perspective

Submitted by Mohammed Degia

On August 1, 1838, enslaved people across the British Caribbean gained their freedom. Contrary to what is often peddled about the singular role of abolitionists in ending transatlantic slavery, there were two main reasons for abolition- economic and rebellions. The British did not in some great moralistic and ethical wave bestow freedom upon the enslaved. The system was altered because slavery had become an economic liability. Furthermore, the planters lived with the constant fear of slaves rebelling and of another Haiti transpiring. In the end, it was better to agree to free the enslaved than to live with this fear or worse to experience a rebellion. I discuss all of this in more detail in a piece I wrote in 2007 which was the 200th anniversary of the abolition of the trans-Atlantic slave trade by Britain.

As we commemorate the emancipation of our Caribbean forefathers, remember that the British in abolishing slavery also provided a large compensation package for the slave owners. The sum of money amounted to £20 million (£15 billion today) or about 40% of the national budget. The formerly enslaved of course received nothing. What is even more perverse is that the loan taken out at that time by the British government to fund the compensation package was not paid off until 2015. Thus, the British taxpayer was until recently, through payments to the holders of the slavery bonds, still contributing to the beneficiaries of slavery. This is the same British government and society that dismisses the descendants of the enslaved condescendingly, lecturing to them that they should move on and stop living in the past. This is the same British government and society that refuses to consider the just demands of Caribbean people for reparations. The same British government that argues absurdly that the slave trade and slavery were not illegal at the time and so they are not obliged to provide compensation for the heinous role they played in one of the worst crimes against humanity. For these people though, it is not a historical matter to be left behind when until February 2015 they were still reaping the benefits of the slavery abolition loan. The height of dishonesty, arrogance and hypocrisy.

In addition, as we celebrate August 1, we must be mindful that 180 years after abolition and 56 years after the decolonisation period in the British Caribbean commenced with Jamaica’s independence on August 6, 1962, we have a long way to go in the quest for true freedom. The legacy of colonialism and slavery endures in our tiny island states. Most of us continue to experience significant socio-economic challenges. Race and class considerations remain central factors in how our societies function. For example, in Barbados, the justice system still operates in two forms- one for the rich and white and nowadays Indian and one for blacks particularly those that are not rich. Just under a year ago, I penned a long article about the harsh realities of race in Barbados beyond the symbolism of its Emancipation statue. Last week, two prominent white Barbadian businessmen were charged with drug offences and anyone following the saga would have seen first-hand the playing out of the politics of race and class that I wrote about.

The Caribbean has much work to do. We need to examine in earnest these mental chains that impede us. An honest, brutal conversation about our past, how it looms large over us and how we must proceed is essential. Our intellectual giants started the process. It is necessary for us to build on it and propel it to the next level. It is also imperative that we do this together as a region. We are one people with a shared history of colonialism, slavery and exploitation. People to people relationships that transcend artificial borders have always been a central feature of our Caribbean reality. In addition, in a world of large and medium powers, we have no choice as small islands but to integrate. Our politicians with their egos and selfish interests have frustrated the institutionalisation of our deep ties. We the people must take the lead.

265 comments

  • You seem to give a shit, you are reading my every word, being entertained, something like voyeurs, after ya done, ya feel disgusted of yaselves, guilty and tainted and have to complain…is all kinds of weirdos on these blogs.

    And ya jealous too..hmm..hmmm

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  • How did your husbands DNA turn out some recycled plastic pep bottles some Canadian pucks a little bit of pneumatic tire and just a touch of trampoline. Did you go for the 10 12 or 14 inch model

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  • You better take that test real quick… Lawson, ya real conflicted.

    Maybe you will come back saying ya are a Viking too..lol

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  • Akilini wrote,

    It is the reality of this “Handicap” which is responsible for the racial hatreds we find in the World today and yesterday. No one likes to know that they can’t do what everybody else can do, especially when it comes to something so “Basic” as being able to feed yourself, as normal people do by Farming.Therefore Caucasian ( Albinos ) resorted to the enslavement of “Pigmented” people to do the Farming work for them.
    In addition, Caucasian (Albino) stole land, raped ,murdered & tortured millions to attain albino dominance . They used the enslavement of Blacks people to make vast profits for themselves.

    This is unadulterated pup! White people conducted their farming in northern conditions for thousands of years. they would have died out from starvation otherwise. When they decided to grow tropical crops in the hot Sun they obviously had difficulty with the heat and decided to buy slaves from Africans who were more than willing to get rid of POWs / enemies that would have to be put to death anyway. this excrement about white people enslaving is nonsense all peoples had slaves it was pure economics. The Chinese sold their own female children into slavery if they had too high a ratio of females—pure economics. While it was not right to dominate others they way whites did, for the vast majority of humans domination was a certainty whether Black on black as in Bim over the last 10years OR white on white OR????? The desire to dominate is not a white only trait. Anyway blame Arabs et al for slavery since they caused Europeans to start shipping from the Far East because they Dominated land routes, charging very high tolls, when spices etc came across from the east ie Indonesia and India. Hence Prince Henry”The Navigator”of Portugal sent out ships from Cape St Vincent to explore Africa and find a route to the East.

    Albinos are not white people so try a lil research to comprehend the difference.

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  • Akenatenl my mistake on the name.

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  • WW, I agree that African blood must never forget and must progress towards equality in every respect. However, overplaying the victim card instead of working together to progress in my view is a mistake. Just check the examples set by Jews and Orientals who were treated badly by Whites too. Admittedly not as badly. Jews and Orientals, including Indians, are very successful in the USA today, far more so on average than whites in general. Why? The answer is what will help AfroAms, the teachings of people like Marcus Garvey, if employed would not have hurt either.

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  • Sarge,
    I wrote based on DNA test info—mostly northern European with a smattering of Southern E. I have no problem with skin colour and like brown very much indeed. I have made it clear before that I know that my grandfather and his brothers, all over 6ft, were village rams and so there are many in Bim that have some similar blood to me. In fact a famous Bajan Surgeon is my great uncle’s out side child. I also know that several generations ago one of my relatives left $$$$$ in his Will for darker family. Make no mistake, some of those old fellas loved their dark woman more than the white wife, but had to keep up appearances.

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  • WW, talk bout afraid, there was an Exec in Btown who went to the records office to check his bloodlines (going back 70 yrs) and when he get to a certain part he slam shut the book and left bout dey real quick! hahaha.

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  • lol..MoneyB..the stories that are coming out of the ancestry tests are too much, the shock they get is worthy of patenting..lol

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  • Yes as he looked back he saw his ancestors were all DLP voters

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  • Lawson – “Islam is a religion, not an ethnic group. Get it right.”

    Erm, no actually, it is far more than that, it is a cult, an evil murderous cult which should be proscribed in any civilised society. It means SUBMISSION – to their version of a god, while allowing no other. Read their filthy book, and what it proposes for Jews, gays, women and the kuffar.

    Islam MUST be destroyed before it destroys civilisation..

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  • 45 Hal wrote that but I do believe we have to be on guard on whats going on. There is good and bad in every religion but how do you tell who is who without a program. For instance if WW’s husband was religious and because of her over inflating him prior to sex he blew up would it be murder suicide or domestic terrorism. Its all so confusing

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  • Lawson, sorry if I misattributed Hal’s quote to you – but I think such a scenario as you describe would be more of a mercy killing! Of course, were the ‘lady’ herself to detonate, filled as she is with some sort of racial Novichok,, it would be like Chernobyl.

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  • Two of yall are so pathetic and filled with sour grapes juice.

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  • Poor creature, even if we were it would be a lot less toxic than the racist bile that stuffs the catastrophic outcome of your parents’ unfortunate foop.

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  • 45..when WW woke up after her vagina tuck, there was three sets of flowers on her dresser she looked at the cards…and the first one from her doctor said everything went well , the second was from her husband and said get well soon the third was from a kid in the burn unit at the QE saying..thanks for the new ears.

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  • Only two 11 year old minds in two 70 year old men’s dried up bodies would get on a blog and become infatuated with a 60 year old woman’s vagina..perverts.

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  • Lawson,

    That is very rude. You are naughty. You disappoint me. Write a hundred lines: I must not write naughty things.

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  • Lol Lol Lol hey morgan fairchild and christie brinkley got those old parts….but they kept themselves in shape working out not spending their time attacking poor retirees on the net 24 /7.

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  • Hal yes naughty for sure did you see those injection wells were just pit’s lol I don’t know who they thought they they were fooling now running a shit pipe out passed the break water calling it something fancy like injection well or off load somebody got three million

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  • Just my luck, two creepy white men and their dumb sidekick in the UK, my whole life I had to run from these perverts, having a very clear idea what my enslaved ancestors males, females and children went through with them….these days they can only stay behind a computer screen and hope to rape.

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  • WW,
    Did U see the Ancestry program with Prof Henry Louis Gates where he told Ms Malveaux and another darker lady about their white family? He told one that her 4G grand dad had obtained fredom from Slavery but then owned a plantation in Louisiana with slaves. HLG went on to say that there were 900 plantations in L with non white owners of slaves. I keep telling people the history is very complex and we need to simplify for today’s purposes 1 whites should not behave superior 2 AfroAms should not behave as if inferior 3 AfroAms must pursue lofty objectives and should receive a higher quality of education most likely via IT. 4 AfroAms must be encouraged to have hope and should be mentored by those who understand the key reasons why AfroAms / poor whites are not improving their lot. It comes down to Discipline, Education and positive attitude/ hope. Males have to be responsible for being fathers and stay in the home, young people must be encouraged not to have babies early, the formula is not too difficult but politicians / leaders are wutless!

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  • The same hate that the whites who call themselves Christians hate muslims, is in the same vein as the whites who enslaved Africans and brutalised them.

    God made all things which includes all people and all religions man made to represent God in different manifestations.

    Muslims are mainly black and brown the hate of muslims is same racial hate of black and browns in a new disguise.

    Alt-white trolls are racists on internet and in politics. BU is becoming redundant like rest of web due the rise of the scum alt-right trolls

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  • “I keep telling people the history is very complex and we need to simplify for today’s purposes 1 whites should not behave superior 2 AfroAms should not behave as if inferior 3 AfroAms must pursue lofty objectives and should receive a higher quality of education most likely via IT. ”

    Yep..that should be the plan, it is a complex history with everyone jumping on the bandwagon to be slave owners back then because it was trending , just like they all jump on the bandwagon today to beplantation owners , but that is just a cover up for gun running and drug trafficking purposes these days, different era,

    They all need to get with the program and put down the colonial shit, it has become useless and counterproductive….particularly in Barbados, you cannot hold on to the same destructive theme and expect different results.

    The ancestry testing is a gas…it is priceless to watch their faces when it dawns on them who their ancestors really were and who were slave owners and who were not..I especially like the part where who thought they were lily white end up with a good 20% or more of African blood rolling through their veins, it never fails to entertain..

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  • 555, The fact is that the Arab Muslims enslaved Africans far earlier and longer than white Europeans. The Arabs also had a tendency to CUT off Afro males balls!!!!! So wake up and stop chatting racist shyte! Pretending to be a victim instead of getting of your backside and making progress is today’s major problem. Do U know that many medical schools in the USA permit entry to AfroAms with marks that are 20% LOWER than Asians!! There was a documentary with a really dark Indian that conned an UNI into seeing him as AfroAm and giving him entry on the basis of Race not grades. Crying Victim is not the way to go—Take positive action!

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  • The Nonsense of White Genes

    Have you heard this nonsense statement: “Black Americans have 24% European genes.”
    Now from that statement, a logical person would assume the Europeans have UNIQUE Genes that would of course be “WHITE” genes, and Blacks would have UNIQUE genes, which of course would be “BLACK” genes. 

    First and foremost: There is no such a thing as “White” genes! The reason for that is because a natural Modern Human is a “Black Skinned” African who evolved from earlier Homo-sapiens from about 400,000 years ago. Albinos, such as the European, evolved just 8,000 to 12,000 years ago, as a result of them foolishly breeding among themselves (which can only produce other Albinos), rather than as normally done – with a healthy Black only, which will produce mulattoes of various shades.
    The point being that the ONLY difference between original Black genes, and White (Albino) genes, are the h genetic mutations which m “WHITE SKIN” (Albinism):
    mutations of the following genes SLC24A5 , SLC45A2,
    MC1R, TYR, TYRP1 & OCA2 are seen at high frequency in Europeans.

    *Novel Mutations in MC1R Gene: First Evidence for OCA Type II Disease in Indian Population

    This is the first report providing genetic evidences for OCA type II disease associated with MC1R gene mutations. 

    MC1R gene mutation and its association with oculocutaneous albinism yype (OCA) phenotype in a consanguineous Pakistani family

    Oculocutaneous Albinism Type VI (OCA6) is associated with mutations in the SLC24A5 gene.

    Mutations of the TYR, OCA2, TYRP1,and SLC45A2 genes have been associated with Oculocutaneous Albinism (OCA1–4, respectively).

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  • “Albinos, such as the European, evolved just 8,000 to 12,000 years ago, as a result of them foolishly breeding among themselves (which can only produce other Albinos), rather than as normally done – with a healthy Black only, which will produce mulattoes of various shades.”

    Give those uppity albinos a history lesson about their existence, 70% of them are totally clueless about their own origins.

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  • Lol ww if I was chasing you it would be with a large butterfly net. Bedlam. Do think for a minute I don’t know you are some rotund white guysitting around in his yellow boxers fantasizing about people thinking you are Maxine waters

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  • lol..but ah got ya good with that one.

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  • “The fact is that the Arab Muslims enslaved Africans far earlier and longer than white Europeans.”

    I’m not interested in arguing with your prejudice.That was the meme pushed out by UK when they were pushed for reparations.
    Muslims are not racial like Whites.

    4,000,000 Africans were taken by GB and bred for 20 generations having up to 15 children from age 14.
    There are 100,000,000 black slaves descendants in the Western hemisphere.

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  • If your claiming that is the cause of the sewage problem you would know better than me but I agree there is a lot of you

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  • There isn’t a case of claims for slavery against muslims being made, there is a case of claims against Anglo-Americans for Atlantic Slave Trade, muslims are outside that remit.

    Whites claiming slaves were bought from Africans is ignoring slave trading by Brits and Americans where they were sold for up to $1,000 ($70,000 equivalent making fortunes)

    Africans selling slaves to Brits would not have envisioned the brutality of treatment that they would receive as the tricksters pretended they would treat them well like human and not sub-humans animals.

    The crimes of white slavery are about white wickedness.

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  • The history of the slave trade out of Africa to Caribbean and across the Americas and Europe will haunt them forever, it will never go away, it is not the type of curse that can be washed or wished away, it will continue to follow and stick…and the more they continue with the Arab story, which had nothing to do with slaves in the Caribbean, Europe or North America, the more their culpability will be highlighted.

    It’s theirs, they gotta own in, no Arabs were around the Caribbean, jews yes, they were entitled to a slave per family, that’s why they should never be allowed in the Caribbean again, but those who are still benefitting from slavery, gotta live with that curse that will outlive them all.

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  • “#Herb is a plant; I mean Herb is so good for everything. Why? Why do these people who profess they want to do so much good for everyone and call themselves governments and this and that, say you must not use the herb? Their motivation appears to be that its use makes us rebel. Against what? Against those who crave material possessions and wish to influence our subconscious behaviour by making us work for their benefit and keep it all. Herb allows you to reflect upon this and question why you should submit to their will, and helps you to understand that you are their equal, not in the sense of owning material things, but in the sense of why should you agree to their doctrine? This means that you are your own person, you own yourself; you are not enslaved; you do what you want to do; you are responsible for yourself and become free of their ways without caring what others think”
    -Robert Nesta Marley

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  • “…and the more they continue with the Arab story, which had nothing to do with slaves in the Caribbean, Europe or North America, the more their culpability will be highlighted.”

    Muslim slaves were servants only and were rewarded for loyal service

    There were no slave plantations

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  • Just listen to what the demented racist SSDumbShit has to say….”Muslims are not racial like Whites.”

    I wonder WTF this cretinous RH has been lately while the men in white coats have been looking for him! He has apparently missed all the killings worldwide by his beloved muslim filth, and undoubtedly was one of those cheering 9/11. What a scumbag.

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  • ” and undoubtedly was one of those cheering 9/11. What a scumbag”

    stop projecting your ignorant hate pasty faced white boy

    911 was a scam in case you didn’t know
    O Money Laundering $240 billion through Bank of New York London*, CIA Black Ops Funds in Black Eagle Trust 10 year bonds from distressed Russian Assets, failed settlement cleared by SEC
    O Drones
    O PNAC wars
    (*) I worked at BNYE

    Read about it sucker
    https://www.scribd.com/document/57510047/Murdering-Liberty-Killing-Hope-When-Psychopaths-Rule-the-World-Special-Final-Unedited-Edition

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  • The reason they are more Afros in the West than in Muslim lands is because they cut off testicles!
    Sad but true. People who convert to Islam because of slavery in Christian lands are very ignorant of the facts.

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  • 555dubstreet August 11, 2018 5:55 PM
    “Muslim slaves were servants only and were rewarded for loyal service”.

    Yes they were Rewarded for their Service, there Ball were cut off and their women were used as Sex Toys and any Children they had were Killed!

    Problem is that some here LIE & DECEIVE because they feel that they can get money from one set of people but not from the other Group!

    KIKI555 we understand where your loyalties are… Clear as Night from Day!

    Who is that you are Charging for these Reparations? Is it the English people? Or is it All of Europe? Or is it some of Europe?

    There were more slaves sent to South America than they were in the Caribbean and North America.

    Does these Reparations include those?

    And Since Everyone knows that life started in Africa and we are looking back that means that we are all Africans are we going to charge ourselves for this displacement of modern people?

    Barbados is the only country that was always under British rule in the Caribbean, if we are only charging England with these reparations what about the times when the other islands belonged to other European Countries?

    And if you ask for Reparations equal to what was paid to the Slave owners that would be 15 Billion Dollars as you have said in today’s dollars which works out to 200.and something dollars per man woman and child in the Caribbean with most of the money going to Cuba, Haiti, Santa Domingo and Jamaica.

    Or is this money going to the Governments of the Caribbean?

    I know of no Government in the Caribbean who is the same today as it was yesterday.

    In each and Everybody’s life we can point to instances of Unfairness of being taken advantage of although they are not in-comparison with the crime of Slavery who is going to pay for our unfairness and being taken advantage of?

    All that people have fought and died for, all our forefathers who desired to see a better society, up comes this crowd that looking to Create an Extortion Racket rather than embracing what we have now and moving forward.

    You don’t seek Progress you Use Revenge as your tool of Extortion!

    You forget that wealth is created by the Industrious and that we all live by the hand of the Industrious.

    The Division that you seek is by Dividing Wealth not Creating it! That Game is as Old as Time itself!

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  • Money Boy stop drinking the Hareterade and parroting white boy memes that you know nothing about.

    There are many blacks in muslims lands and no racial hate (there are may whites too). As Malcolm X said in Islam colour does not mean anything, In USA when a white man says he’s white and you are black, he’s saying he’s your boss.

    Greeks and Romans had Eunuchs too for slaves that worked for woman. People did not want them sexing up the woman.

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  • Freedom Crier

    You are still too ugly to bother with. If God had blessed you he would have give you a pretty face.

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  • 555 Aug 11th, 8.08pm, Yes X changed his opinion regarding white people when he met Muslim whites on his journey to Mecca—you should learn from that! I do NOT hate any group of people , race, religion etc so cut out your racist nonsense. How does it make sense to hate whites when many whites have never even interacted with non whites? (and vice versa). Race is used by “leaders” to divide people. Do U think that Muslim Guyanese believe that they are the same as Afro Guyanese, same for Trinidadians and other places where there are large such racial representations?

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  • Who told you I hate whites. I hate racists. Two thirds of whites as are racists.

    My white friends would be calling out racism of whites too.

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  • I’m not racist, I don’t hate muslims, despite propaganda washing your brains.

    I look at the wars against muslims and the hate as a clash between West and East.

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  • This is not Black versus White, or Left versus Right or Jew versus Palestinian, this is a Good versus Evil, Freedom versus Tyranny and the culprit from the beginning of time has always been the Adversary. We have our eyes so clinched where they want us to in stirring up racism that we are forgetting the others that suffer Great Atrocities right now in real time, being slaughtered by the thousands.

    After the WWII genocide, we kept saying “never again”. But since then there has been Cambodia, Rwanda, Bosnia and the Christians Middle Eastern territories. Even Saddam, as horrid as he was, never performed such atrocities. These people have lived there with their beliefs since the 5th century or earlier. Now convert to Islam or die. Are they less worthy of our outcries???

    A Rose by another name will still smell as sweet in much the same way Slavery to a Slave is STILL SLAVERY!

    The Chiefs in Africa used to war with each other and would sell their Captives European Traders to get them out of the Country so they would not have to fight them again.

    The Europeans engaged in the Slave trade as TRADERS they did not go into Africa and Conquer and capture Slaves.
    Have you heard about modern day Slavery in Africa? What do you call when Muslim Extremist in Africa raid villages and capture children and make them solders to fight their cause?

    Have you read of Boca Harran taking young women from their tribes and selling them as SEX SLAVES…Is that a different kind of Slavery??

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  • Freedom you are no warrior.

    How many real fights have you ever been in.

    I guess none.

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  • Freedoms war seems to be a alt-right white troll war with memes for children in her wackie mind.

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  • I agree with dub the Muslim countries should look after the worlds nuclear arsenal

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  • A WORD OF COUNSEL & CAUTION… Proverbs 6:16-19 (KJV)

    THESE SIX THINGS DOTH THE LORD HATE: YEA, SEVEN ARE AN ABOMINATION UNTO HIM…

    A PROUD LOOK,
    A LYING TONGUE,
    AND HANDS THAT SHED INNOCENT BLOOD,
    AN HEART THAT DEVISETH WICKED IMAGINATIONS,
    FEET THAT BE SWIFT IN RUNNING TO MISCHIEF,
    A FALSE WITNESS THAT SPEAKETH LIES,
    AND HE THAT SOWETH DISCORD AMONG BRETHREN

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  • I’ll leave you alt-right white trolls to discuss racist shit by yourselves.

    not enough time in life to chat to twisted white parasites.

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  • August 11, 2018 9:20 PM

    “Freedom you are no warrior. How many real fights have you ever been in. I guess none.”

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  • FOOLS MOCK, BUT THEY SHALL MOURN…

    Every one that is proud in heart is an abomination to the LORD: though hand join in hand, he shall not be unpunished…

    By mercy and truth iniquity is purged: and by the fear of the LORD men depart from evil…

    Righteous lips are the delight of kings; and they love him that speaketh right…

    Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall…

    An ungodly man diggeth up evil: and in his lips there is as a burning fire.

    A froward man soweth strife: and a whisperer separateth chief friends.

    A violent man enticeth his neighbour, and leadeth him into the way that is not good.

    He shutteth his eyes to devise froward things: moving his lips he bringeth evil to pass.

    He that is slow to anger is better than the mighty; and he that ruleth his spirit than he that taketh a city.

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  • “Novelist Sir VS Naipaul, who won the Nobel Prize in literature, has died aged 85, his family have said.

    Sir Vidia, who was born in rural Trinidad in 1932, wrote more than 30 books including A Bend in the River and his masterpiece, A House for Mr Biswas.”

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  • How long shall they kill I prophets while we sit around and wait

    some say it is just a part of it but the wait is a bit too great

    so won’t you help me sing these songs of freedom

    that’s all I ever have redemption song

    ((►)) The Wailers-Redemption Song

    (Alt. Band Studio Demo Take Two)

    ((►)) Redemption Song, Bunny Wailer

    Isaiah 8:12 (CEB) Don’t call conspiracy all that this people calls conspiracy. Don’t fear what they fear, and don’t be terrified.

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  • Talking Loud Saying Nothing

    Mohammed Degia keep up the good work.

    Last Friday the Argentina embassy presented an evening of Argentine theatre, with the play La Négrophilie, at the Frank Collymore Hall.

    Sometime last week, a few days prior to the breaking news of Mr Inniss, I questioned why the government of Barbados is consolidating and pushing aggressively to form strong ties with Argentina. A country which has pursued a virulent and an aggressive policy against her African population since her inception.

    We could argue that the government of Barbados lacks sufficient knowledge of Argentina and their mistreatment of her African population; but what of our Barbados media outlets such as the Nation, The Barbados Advocate, Barbados Today, et al? Is it not their job to publish and enlighten the Bajan masses that we are pursuing a relationship with a country that is anti-black and has virtually decimated her very own Afro-population.

    Am i the only person who feels uncomfortable with this friendship? We need to raise our level of awareness with all countries with whom we share diplomatic relationships.

    https://www.theroot.com/true-or-false-there-are-no-black-people-in-argentina-1790876367 (Henry Louis Gates Jr.)

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  • Hey Saying Nothing – why not sever ALL relationships with ANYONE whose great great grandfathers may have mistreated your ancestors? No more handouts from the UK, Canada, the US, the EU, and NO visas to visit those barstewards….way to go moron!!

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  • Talking Loud,

    Once more you are spot on. Argentina has always seen itself as a European outpost in South America. At the turn of the 20th century, when desperate Italians rushed for the US and Northern Europe, whose who could not make it settled in Argentina. Jus took at the number of Argentinians with Italians surnames.
    Along with the rest of South America (and Central America) it has seen its black population as beneath contempt. In establishing bilateral arrangements with these countries we must be careful not to abandon the African population. Argentina is a case in point.
    By the way, at about the same historical juncture Argentina and the US were level pegging economically. Look at them now. Explain.

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  • Hal Austin August 12, 2018 10:18 AM
    “By the way, at about the same historical juncture Argentina and the US were level pegging economically. Look at them now. Explain.”

    The Rise of New Latin American Socialism

    Argentina could be considered one of the more socialist countries in Central or South America, but it certainly is not the only one with socialist tendencies. Other countries, notably Ecuador, Cuba, Bolivia and Venezuela, have strong ties to socialist movements. Some of Argentina’s neighbors are notably less socialist. These include Chile, Uruguay, Colombia and Saint Lucia.

    If you want to look forward you first must know our past, where we are, what we are doing and the choices we are making, then we can see what the future may hold for we have seen the direction we are on.

    Read More @

    https://barbadosunderground.net/2018/08/06/barbados-improvements-part-4-looking-forward/

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  • Freedom Crier,

    Plse define Socialism, Communism and Capitalism.

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  • Hal Austin August 12, 2018 11:46 AM

    “Freedom Crier, Plse define Socialism, Communism and Capitalism.”

    Hal you usually do not miss Articles on BU, did you miss this one? Barbados Improvements Part 4: Looking Forward Posted on August 6, 2018…..Have I spoken of All Else on BU…Hmmmmmm?

    The Article is quite Explanatory on the same Subject.

    I Invite you and others to Read the following, then should you then have any Questions I would be more than happy to answer!

    Make your comments under the Article Please not under this Article….I really did not want to prop up this Spew in the first place but had to open my mouth because of the Glaring Deception portrayed by the Author…

    Hal as a well read person and I would especially like to hear your take on Socialism, Communism and Capitalism!

    See you there…

    https://barbadosunderground.net/2018/08/06/barbados-improvements-part-4-looking-forward/

    https://nicomaque.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/35f04-539569_10150927547660778_1014556084_n.jpg?w=640&h=400

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  • Freedom Crier,

    I know it looks as if I spend all my time on BU. I only read everything that David (BU) says. Otherwise I pick and choose. As to Communism, are we talking about Soviet communism, Chinese communism, Western communism? On socialism are we talking about liberal democratic socialism, or the socialism of Sidney and Beatrice Webb, or of Tony Benn, or of Michael Foot, or of Facing Reality? Is this the capitalism of Andrew Carnegie, or of the plantocracy, or of the joint stock company, or of Japanese just in time capitalism, or of digital capitalism? Is this the capitalism of Enron, Madoff, Qualcomm, Carillion, which one?
    I am confused.

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  • If you are so Confused a Rainbow has many Colours but it is still a Rainbow and you are trying to describe the Colours of the same rainbow and all the blends of the Colours into one another but it is still the same rainbow..

    Are you going to read the article and learn the True Colour Palate or are you going to sit there ever learning but not reaching Understanding?

    https://barbadosunderground.net/2018/08/06/barbados-improvements-part-4-looking-forward/

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  • HAL,
    The practice of Sharia Law and other extreme versions of Islam ie Wahhabism, Salafism turns their version of Islam into a Totalitarian System which is not a religion. Such political concepts should be totally banned in the West.

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ Freedom Crier August 12, 2018 1:08 PM
    “If you are so Confused a Rainbow has many Colours but it is still a Rainbow and you are trying to describe the Colours of the same rainbow and all the blends of the Colours into one another but it is still the same rainbow..
    Are you going to read the article and learn the True Colour Palate or are you going to sit there ever learning but not reaching Understanding?”

    If you can be so ‘intelligent’ as to use the rainbow as the ‘perfect’ analogy to paint a picture of mankind’s varying systems of arranging social and economic relationships why then can’t you see socialism or communism as just another pallet from which to daub a colour of economic paint?

    What was the colour of the economic relationships which existed in the time of your eponymous Jesus or in the mythical garden of Eden? Was it ‘red’ from incompetence or ‘green’ with greed?

    It would do you a world of good if you were to preach the value of ‘Compromise’.
    Just look at the Scandinavian model and see if you can find Capitalism in its pure exploitative form or Socialism in its most inefficient form.

    Your ‘extremist capitalist’ position on the economy does not sit well with your so-called Christian beliefs. The values of Christianity are clearly at odds with the self-centred greed of capitalism.

    So what would it be, Freedom Crier? Jesus or Caesar?

    Or are you prepared to give unto Caesar the things that are for Caesar (taxes) and to Yahweh the things that are for Jesus (the milk of human kindness as cited in the many parables)?

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  • HAL,
    Any economic or political system that does not involve Incentive and Disincentive ie Carrot and Stick, will not work. Everyone should have the opportunity to improve themselves or fail miserably. Govt should help with critical aspects like Education / Training, HealthCare etc BUT the populace must show Discipline and play their part to develop themselves or if of able body or mind be disciplined by removal of benefits. JFK “ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country”

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  • The Ideology Socialism/Communism is the Adversary’s Counterfeit of all God’s

    The Commandments were Compiled into Two Great Principles, the Second Being to Love Others as We Do Ourselves.

    We need to be Benevolent in giving someone a Hand Up; we do not need the Interference and Force that Socialist Government brings.

    Compulsory benevolence is not Charity it is Robbery!

    “They are People in Need of Help, and Charity is one of the Nobler Human Motives. The act of Reaching into One’s Pocket is Praiseworthy and Laudable. Reaching into someone Else Pocket is Deplorable and Worthy of Condemnation”.

    Jesus “wants the poor to be helped” but not at Gunpoint, which is essentially what Government Force is all about:

    Jesus was Not A Socialist… Neither were any of his Followers. He encouraged others to Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s. The Populace only paid a 10th from their surplus Caesar and that had nothing to do with their Tithe or the Law of Consecration…

    Remember in the Parable of the Good Samaritan when he came upon the man that was in Need he Did Not Call on the Government for Assistance he used his Own Means to do so. What we take away from this is that by following the Second Great Commandment to love others as we do ourselves, it Conveys that IN THE TIMES OF CHRIST it was first our Personal Obligation to Assist where possible.

    Failing that we can appeal to family and if they are unable to lend a helping hand then we may appeal to the Church and Community within.

    Nowadays so much is Extracted by way of Limitless Taxations that puts Tremendous Burdens on the Community that additionally to be Benevolent In helping others becomes added difficulty. Hence More people Look to the State as their Shepherd and Provider.

    Under the Banner of Socialism Excessive Taxation is Theft at Gun Point with no end in Sight, while Tithing was and still is Voluntary…

    Keep This and You’ll Keep Them All… There is One Commandment that, if followed by all of humanity, would instantly create a peaceful world: DO NOT STEAL.

    Do you believe the 10th Commandment, You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbour’s?

    Or do you believe in the Socialist Version of advocating using the Brute Force of Government to take from your neighbour to give to someone else or what Socialist describes as being Socially Equable by giving to those the Produce of others who Do Not Work but Love Freeness’s?

    Centrally Planned Economies Deprive the Human Spirit of Full Development. Socialism fails because it Kills and Destroys the Human Spirit–just ask the people leaving Cuba in homemade rafts and boats [and those waiting in long lines today in Venezuela struggling, and often failing, to buy food].

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  • There is no top ranking BLACK advisor in the Trump administration.

    #fact

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  • “The practice of Sharia Law and other extreme versions of Islam ie Wahhabism, Salafism turns their version of Islam into a Totalitarian System which is not a religion. Such political concepts should be totally banned in the West.”

    The biggest problem in the West is the Alt-Right White Troll. Damn Pasty Whites with Ugly faces think they own the World.

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  • “There is no top ranking BLACK advisor in the Trump administration.”
    So what – look at all the top black crooks in Obama’s gang.

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  • Yours is a most idiotic response. Have the last word.

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  • Talking Loud Saying Nothing

    @45gov,

    I don’t believe that it would be a good idea for Barbados to detach herself completely from those countries who have ritually abused those of African descent over the millennium. Barbados needs to both evaluate and re-evaluate those countries that it has or would like to have diplomatic relationships with.

    The Barbados government has to be made aware that Argentina has had a policy in place since the abolition of slavery to erase her African population. I am deeply uncomfortable that we have had a diplomatic relationship with this country – now in its fiftieth year. Is our government vetting and applying pressure on Argentina to stop discriminating against her African descended population?

    Argentina is famous for its wine production and her animal husbandry. They are looking at markets to sell their produce. Can we trust food produce emanating from this country given the fact that we have a population that is majority black. Given their treatment of their own black citizens can we really trust them to deliver produce that is fit for consumption for our citizens, I may be wrong but I am certain that Barbados received a container worth of corn beef delivered from either Argentina or Brazil (two countries joined at the hip in their mentalities towards their African population) that was not fit for consumption.

    I know that my views will not be shared by most and ridiculed by some but we have to pay close attention to whom we decide to develop diplomatic relationships with.

    @ Alvin,

    Argentina remains a right-ring country littered with coups, mass detentions, disappearances of her citizens, torture, hyper-inflation, et al. This, partly, explains the decline in the standing of her economy vis-a-vis America.

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  • Talking Loud Saying Nothing

    Sorry, Hal not Alvin!

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  • David August 12, 2018 4:15 PM

    “There is no top ranking BLACK advisor in the Trump administration.” #fact

    Benjamin Solomon Carson Sr. (born September 18, 1951) is an American politician, author and former neurosurgeon serving as the 17th and current United States Secretary of Housing and Urban Development since 2017, under the Trump Administration.

    Once again David you have tried to make this Tread a Racist Debate, nothing New under the Sun with You & BU.

    Pastor Darrell Scott: President Trump, THE MOST PRO – BLACK PRESIDENT IN HISTORY

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  • You understand what is an advisor?

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  • “There is no top ranking BLACK advisor in the Trump administration.

    #fact”

    “Taking Back Control” means No Blacks Allowed

    that’s how white scum talk

    I got proof

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  • David August 12, 2018 7:26 PM “You understand what is an advisor?”

    When The President invites his Cabinet into meetings including Dr. Ben Carson who is the current United States Secretary of Housing and Urban Development would they be reporting and advising the President at that point? Is the President a mind reader or does he have to take advice from those in the field who represent his cabinet?

    What I understand very clearly are Bait & Switch Tactics.

    What I understand is the Tactic of Race Baiting.

    David what I understand without a doubt is that you are an expert in both Bait & Switch & Race Baiting Tactics!

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  • Why do you feel to debate every issue even if it is nonsense? Members of a Cabinet are not included in the definition of advisors. Even so one member refutes the point made about numbers of Blacks around Trump functioning as top level advisors??

    http://time.com/4737959/shifting-power-centers-trump-advisers/

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  • Consider this and Rise above the those who seek to Continually use Divisiveness as a Tool to Conquer…

    Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things. Philippians 4:8

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  • Ignore the corny meme generator Freedom Crier

    “I use emotion for the many and reason for the few” Adolf Hitler

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  • What do you say to someone who does not even understand the Concept of Spiritual Warfare…

    He doesn’t even know or understand that he is doing the Adversary’s bidding.

    But for sure if he still has a Glimmer of a Conscience he knows he is choosing evil over that which is Good!

    Repent before too late!

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  • How many times were black women raped by white devils during slavery as a WAG wild ass guess
    2,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

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  • “The coastal West African nation of Sierra Leone has been pillaged by some of the most vile elements of International Jewry. From the Brooklyn neighborhood of Brighton Beach, the small, troubled and diamond-rich Sierra Leone was “virtually run” by Marat Balagula, the Ukranian-Jewish mob boss of the most powerful criminal organization on earth, the Red Mafiya. Sierra Leone’s president, Joseph Momoh, didn’t have any problem with the Jewish syndicate setting up global smuggling and money laundering operations in Freetown because Balagula’s associates, in return, bankrolled Momoh’s 1985 presidential campaign. The Jewish ultra-gangster’s main contact in Sierra Leone was a Mossad agent named Shabtai Kalmanovitch, who trained Momoh’s presidential guard and assisted in the crushing of an attempted coup in 1986. Balagula and Kalmanovitch were introduced by Rabbi Ronald Greenwald, a frontman for the interests of Marc Rich (64), the famous billionaire Jewish criminal pardoned by Bill Clinton. This revelation shows a clear nexus between the “Israeli” entity and organized crime, united in the ancient Jewish hatred of the Black man, working together for the furtherance of Jewish interests.

    In the Congo, where a catastrophic genocide has been occurring since 1996, in which up to 10 million people have died at a maddening rate of 1,500 a day, the profiteers of this downright insidious humanitarian disaster are almost exclusively Jewish and intimately linked to the larger network of international Zionism that has been responsible for every major conflict of the last century. Led by Dan Gertler, the grandson of Moshe Schnitzer, an Irgun terrorist known throughout the Zionist entity as “Mr. Diamond” and for founding the “Israel” Diamond Exchange in Tel Aviv in 1960, which today brings the usurping regime $14 billion annually in blood business, there is a Jewish-Zionist network in the Congo so interlocked, so powerful and so domineering, that it can truly make one’s head spin (65).

    Gertler, a member of the influential Chabad Lubavitch supremacist gangster cult and guided by Rabbi Chaim Yaakov Leibovitch, is in bed with Jewish diamond dynasties that include the families of Templesman, Oppenheimer, Mendell, Blattner, Hertzov and Steinmetz, his main partner. The Chabadnik criminal bought off the Congolese government in exchange for high-level “Israeli” defense and intelligence assistance. The endeavors of Gertler and Beny Steinmetz, one of the richest Jews in the Zionist entity, have proliferated and today, they have a monopoly over Congo’s diamonds, a dominant stake in Congo’s copper and the largest cobalt-mining company in the world. And all of this blood money ties into Jewish organized crime, “Israeli” arms dealers, multiple influential Chabad houses and the Zionist occupation itself all the way up to Netanyahu’s office (65). Gertler, a Jewish supremacist of the highest order, revels in sucking the Congo’s blood and he’s so sadistically thirsty for it, he just won’t stop his criminality until there is nothing left but millions more dead.

    NOW YOU KNOW WHY THERE’S A TOTAL MEDIA BLACKOUT

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  • David, you are losing the plot. Next you’ll be agreeing with SSDumbShit and his racist ravings, or, God forbid with the Jew-hating cretin .akanateni and his conspiracy drivel.

    At least Freedom Crier has brought some common sense and perspective to this racists’ playground.

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  • What about the half that’s never been told

    Whites want to whitewash their inherent immorality but the truth is like a burning fire and all they can do is deny and lie, but are guilty your honour

    “Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” Soren Kierkegaard

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  • SSDumbShit, no-one is interested in your endless videos. Go and lie down somewhere quiet until the men in white coats arrive for you.

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  • 45govt is a gay white boy

    ((►))) Same Thing All Over

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  • The blogmaster can be more specific, there is no high ranking Black advisor sitting in the West Wing of the White House.

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  • @David
    The blogmaster can be more specific, there is no high ranking Black advisor sitting in the West Wing of the White House.

    +++++++++++++++++++++
    There never was under 45 Omerosa was just window dressing, she will exact some revenge on them she has TAPES.

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  • @Sargeant

    The political commentators are saying to tape is illegal!

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  • @David

    That is for the lawyers to sort out, she just released a tape of Trump saying he didn’t know that she was fired.
    They also tried to silence her by offering a non- specific campaign job paying 15 Gs per month but it came with an onerous NDA (she has the email).

    I am no fan of Omerosa but I will cheer when she makes them squirm.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/omarosa-trump-campaign-tried-to-keep-me-quiet-1297415747838

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  • “At least Freedom Crier has brought some common sense and perspective to this racists’ playground”

    No. Freedom Crier has brought nothing but White Supremacist drivel, kinda like you.

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  • You are well named Dullard – although it i8s a little on the generous side for someone with your mental issues.

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  • Sarge, who trusts or would trust Omerosa? I immediately felt sorry when I learned that my bro Clarke the actor had married her. Clarkey was a gentle giant, Omerosa a very dangerous female. Omerosa is one of the very best manipulators on Earth, I certainly think she is very gifted in this way. Trump and the producers kept her on The Apprentice because she was the person that people bound to hate! There is no way I would have let her in the WH but certainly believe Trump should have some AfroAms as his advsors in the WH as there is much work to be accomplished in the community and stamping out Racism.

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  • 555 wrote,The biggest problem in the West is the Alt-Right White Troll. Damn Pasty Whites with Ugly faces think they own the World.

    The West is not perfect but it is miles more advanced in every respect than Totalitarian Systems in places like Saudi, Pakistan et al. These Pasty Faces have produced most of the food, technology, medicine etc that not so Pasty Faces crave, why did Allah permit such a void that makes the Grand Canyon look small?

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  • Trump should not be concerned with Omorosa.

    He should be concerned about his security team.

    There is no way that anyone should be able to record any conversations surreptitiously in the White House.

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  • @Hants
    There is no way that anyone should be able to record any conversations surreptitiously in the White House
    +++++++++++
    You forgot Nixon?

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