Tension Between Hilary Beckles and the Barbados Government Continues

Prime Minister Freundel Stuart and outgoing Principal of UWI, Cave Hill

Prime Minister Freundel Stuart and outgoing Principal of UWI, Cave Hill

Brooks distinguishes two sorts of virtues: resumé virtues and eulogy virtues. Resumé virtues are the skills you bring to the marketplace: wealth, fame, status and a great career. Eulogy virtues are the things people will say about you at your funeral: that you were honest, loving, and steadfast. Most of us would say that eulogy virtues are more important, but it’s the resumé virtues we tend to think about the most – About David Brooks latest book The Road to Character

In has become the norm for local leaders in civil society to shout at each other rather than adopt more civilized and constructive methods of engagement. The latest salvo has come from the taciturn Prime Minister Fruendel Stuart who saw merit in bellowing a message to outgoing principal of the Cave Hill Campus, UWI Hilary Beckles on the weekend.  The point of contention for Stuart is the criticism by Beckles that a cutback in financial support by government will translate to a social cost especially on working class women.

The first observation independent minded observers are forced to make is that both Beckles and Stuart have low creditability when addressing the issue of the current state of education provided by Cave Hill, UWI. Beckles cannot expect to exponentially expand student intake at the campus without soliciting the buyin of the government. A growing student enrolment has financial implication for the public purse at a time when government is cash strapped.  Surely government and the principal of Cave Hill must appreciate the benefit of removing the politics from the issue.

On the flipside we have a prime minister who led a government which promised not to change tuition arrangement at Cave Hill. Given the importance of education in the minds of all Barbadians whether working, middle or upperclass there is no doubt government’s position at the time influenced many who voted in 2013. The fact the prime minister and government has recanted on its position confirms the widely known maxim that a promise [by a politician] is comfort for a fool. The more literal among us maybe within their right to call the prime minister a liar.

What cannot be disputed is that there has been a significant reduction in student intake at Cave Hill – 1,468 students registered in 2014 compared to 2,240 in 2013; a direct response to government’s policy declared in the 2013-14 budget by minister Chris Sinckler that students at Cave Hill will pay tuition fees while the government continues to pay economic cost. Surprisingly minister Sinckler was reported on recently in the news pledging government’s commitment to work with stakeholders to get the numbers back up [BU’s emphasis on numbers]. Surely all agree there is a good relationship between an educated citizenry and crime along with other social ills.

The case of a prime minister of a country and a principal of the premier tertiary institution braying like jackasses for all hither, thither, and yon to witness, both having been educated at Cave Hill, provokes the question about the quality of education being delivered on the Hill. It speaks to a crisis of leadership on both sides we should be concerned.

What is so difficult for the UWI alumni to resolve a few problems and share vision over a rum and coke and a pork chop on a 2×3 island?

176 comments

  • millertheanunnaki April 21, 2015 at 5:58 PM #

    Who will buy the much boasted about oil off Barbados? Canadians?
    ………………………………………………………………………………………………….
    Like everything else, the Trinis, of course.

    Fumbles Offshore Oil Limited.

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    De ole man din want to be the 100th comment but chaaa!

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  • Peter Parker,

    I do not usually answer comments like yours. But I call it like I see it……..and you have no problem with the way the PM insults Barbadians? Or Donville Inniss? Or Ronald Jones? Or Chris Sinckler?

    Look get lost! They are bunch of incompetent morons. The PM supports two known crooks, calls one who has decimated the lives of so many people his friend and that he is not a leper, tells a member of his government to get a lawyer when it was clear that the man stole his client’s money and you come telling me that I am overstepping?

    You have a government that condones one of its members charging over $700,000 for a opinion when another lawyer charged $17,000.

    You have ministers driving top of the line vehicles registered to a company that gets contracts from their ministries.

    You have an MP charging government over $700,000 for some legal work

    You have a minister whose family outed him for putting millions in their mother’s account…

    ………………and you come telling me that I am overstepping?

    Did you ever read the blogs when OSA was PM? Were you in Barbados to see the type of ads the DLP run against OSA in 2013?

    Man get lost…….David Ellis said this week that the case against Omar Watson was dismissed!

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  • Is it true or false that the PM is ugly? Knowing this, he should be more humble and stop attacking Barbadians every time he opens his mouth, stop being so arrogant, condescending and sarcastic. His MP’s do not even respect him!

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  • prodigal if i had to guess i would guess that you are ten times much uglier than a gorilla, i dare u to put a picture of yourself on BU to prove me wrong, talking shite about respect,,wuh kind of respect does mottley get from her members, cant even get them to vote on any thing favorable to the party interest, and it is amazing how wunna talk about govt censorship when mottley was one of the first to asked for blogs to be monitored and scrutinized bunch a blasted hypocrites wunna really need to be shut up and real fast,

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  • prodigal right from the mouth of the galloping gourmet mia mottley as she calls for censorship of the blogs

    Not so long ago, then Deputy Prime Minister Mia Mottley went on the record saying Internet blogs “Marginalize…Parliament” and called for the regulation of blogs and call-in shows on radio and television. As the election of January 2008 showed, Mottley and the BLP were correct to fear any mechanism that allowed citizens to discuss issues in public without her government’s consent or censorship.

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  • I know when I hit a raw nerve with you dems! You dems can give but cannot take. You can curse the Bees in the worse way but cannot take criticism. Be off!

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  • @IG246
    Minister Jones addressing constituency members in St. Joseph about the teachers and the SBA saga. The majority were old people who looked as if they never heard or know what a SBA is nor what a CXC exam looks like. Some of them like many don’t even understand what the minister talking about but they agreeing with him.
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    Now! Now! Island Gal, what you got against old people? Isn’t there a special arm of BARP that can raise hell about your blatant example of ageism? I am surprised that the BU posse of senior citizens let that slip through unchallenged.

    They must be getting old.

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  • @David the blogmaster “The case of a prime minister of a country and a principal of the premier tertiary institution…both…educated at Cave Hill.”

    Ahh!!! David you are so young. Beckles is in fact NOT an alumni of the University of the West Indies. He was educated at **Black Bess Mixed School, Colridge and Parry School
    Pitmaston Secondary School, Bournville College of Further Education, and the University of Hull.

    So no, Beckles is not a UWI alumnus but he has done more for UWI than than 100,000 UWI alumni.

    **Black Bess Mixed School and St. Boniface Junior School were alamgamated in the 1980’s and renamed the Gordon Greenidge Primary School, in honour of Beckles’ cousin West Indies cricketer Gordon Greenidge, who is also an alumni of Black Bess Mixed School.”

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ ac April 21, 2015 at 9:17 PM
    “prodigal if i had to guess i would guess that you are ten times much uglier than a gorilla, i dare u to put a picture of yourself on BU to prove me wrong,”

    Come on ac & co, let’s be fair and frank and call a spade a spade.
    Would you honestly say that there is a creature in Barbados uglier than that monstrous perversion of looks as depicted in the captioned photo by the being in the ill-fitting suit and glasses?
    Look again and tell us what would you do if you were to come across such a gorilla looking beast at night. Pretend it is a wild animal from the lost kingdom of Kong and take it home for a pet?

    The wages of telling lies is ugliness. How much overtime pay does the Devil owe Fumble?

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  • @Caswell Franklyn April 20, 2015 at 7:43 PM “it seems that the PM is showing who is the Boss.”

    Soon the Prime Minister will be reminded that the people are the boss.

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  • @Fractured BLP April 20, 2015 at 8:04 PM “Prof. Hilary Beckles should have realised a while back that his “bring drinks somebody gine pay”

    Dear David:

    Am I permitted to call Fractured BLP a complete idiot? or are we not permitted to curse each other on your blog?

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  • St George's Dragon

    ac April 20, 2015 at 10:42 PM #
    “hilary out burst of accusation is typical of one who is seeking higher office and latches on to an issue that they believes will resonate with the citizenry”.
    I was trying to think of the last time I had come across an example of someone in a position of power announcing something which would “resonate with the citizenry”.
    Of course, Fumble and the Republic!

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  • @David April 20, 2015 at 8:05 PM “And yes he is producing a Gully Pop crew.”

    No, no, no David.

    Beckles is not producing a Gully Pop crew.

    The Gully Pop crew are being produced by the families of Barbados.

    The same idiots who voted for Freundel Stuart and the DLP.

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  • @Piece
    How the endowments work is that (US) alumni often give money to the university they attended. Indeed universities now have full time staff engaged in “development” or “advancement” which means asking alumni to make contributions to the university. This money is used for scholarships (so talented but poor students can attend the university), to increase faculty salaries, to pay for research, to build buildings, etc
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    I wasn’t going to comment on this subject either because it generates into the same old same old, however to piggy back on your comment above, I thought it strange that the powers that be in a University which has been turning out graduates for at least the last 50 years wouldn’t establish a “Friends of Cave Hill etc.” who can target other prominent graduates of UWI who are now captains of Industry or senior mandarins in Gov’t , Regional or International institutions into making sizable donations to kick start an Endowment fund. These folks can spearhead a “gifting”program and strong arm some local businesses to donate funds to serve the needs of the University, they can target other graduates to make annual donations of e.g. $ $500, $1000 etc. per year and those are paltry sums for some Bajans. It should be a badge of honour for those graduates to give back to their alma mater, it is amazing how many people are proud of attending HC; QC etc. but hardly talk about attending UWI. Many Bajans appreciate the “freeness” of their University education but they don’t ascribe any value to it.

    In essence Sir Hilary should be looking at other means to fulfil his dream of a graduate in every household instead of looking for the Gov’t. to bail out the University in perpetuity.

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  • @Caswell Franklyn April 20, 2015 at 10:08 PM “What do you expect, this university gave degrees to some of the people who now form the Government who could not get 20% in the Common Entrance Examination.”

    Good point Caswell.

    And truly scary.

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  • @My Two Cents April 20, 2015 at 10:19 PM “Fruendel is bang on target in putting Hilary in his place.”

    So who pay you to write this shittteee?

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  • @ac April 20, 2015 at 10:22 PM “the blp misfits.”

    We are not BLP misfits. We are the electorate.

    One day coming soon…

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  • @Georgie Porgie April 21, 2015 at 10:30 AM “DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT THERE WILL BE A NEXT ELECTION? DO YOU NOT REALIZE THAT THESE MORONS KNOW THAT THEY CANT WIN ANY OTHER ELECTIONS EVEN AGAINST THE CURRENT POOR RACKY BLP? DO YOU NOT REALIZE THAT THESE MORONS PLAN NEVER GIVE UP POWER EVEN IF THEY HAVE TO RESORT TO THE MOST FOUL TACTICS?”

    Diabetes and a few strokes here and there will take some of them off our hands well before the next election.

    Who would have thought that David Thompson’s dream of being Prime Minister would turn to dust in his mouth within a year or 2 of becoming PM.

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  • @ Sargeant.

    We are much like the one dog town.

    When the dog dies like Bojangles found out we dont have anything else to fall back on.

    You paused at the simple strategy of a sophisticated susu of sorts formed by UWI alumni over the 50 years of grandiose waste foopism.

    Now a lot of the fellows going come fuh de ole man fuh dat statement but it ent what I say but what you say dat point out how wid 3,000 graduated for 50 years dat is alot of blenzers Sargeant.

    Imagine den how much money dem research projects wudda mek NCO? Nuff Nuff money.

    But is proves to be in the interest of Sir Hilary and others to point fingers at de DLP, inept government as they are, now in ossession of the smoking gun…

    We are abdicating our responsibility and then pointing our finger at everyone else.

    But that is Life Bulbados Styling!! It ent me it is you, you confused….and ole time bajan hit back in de day…but you wont know bout dat, it ent Sam Hill “Stay with me” nor the next one dat me gran tell me dat he singing to a man…

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  • Maybe it is time that when parties announce candidates for general elections the constituentcy the candidate will represent if elected be known but the position/ portfolio they will be selected to be shown. This will vastly influence the voters. During the term of office and there is a need for change the voting public should be notified and objections to the new office be noted before changing.

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  • Miller:
    I heard that Simpson motors took up Owen Arthur jeep (with 5 rings) Audi because he would not or could not pay for it!! Owen must truly reflect on those lives that he destroyed or attempted to destroy and that shall be MANY restless nights!!

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  • @ Sargeant
    “….I thought it strange that the powers that be in a University which has been turning out graduates for at least the last 50 years wouldn’t establish a “Friends of Cave Hill etc.” who can target other prominent graduates of UWI who are now captains of Industry or senior mandarins in Gov’t…”
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    What exactly do you not understand?
    What can an alumni group of clerks contribute to a university?
    You produce thousands of ‘graduates’ who are keeping shop for Trickidadians, Canadians and other foreigners …you think they can make contributions to UWI?
    Look carefully and see who are making contributions in Trickidad, and in various Canadian universities and charities with profits made in Barbados….

    This is the result of a vision of a university based on NUMBERS of degrees presented …rather than one based on the QUALITY of graduates produced.
    Better for a university to produce a single world-class genius than ten thousand AC-like jackasses….

    …and it DOES say something about a university that the collection of female rabbits currently residing in parliament are mostly graduates of that institution…
    Any self-respecting university would be ashamed to admit that they allowed such bowls to successfully complete matriculation…

    What friends of what UWI what??!!
    ….more like an assembly of clerks (ACs)

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  • @Bushie,

    Can you give us your solutions to the problems you articulate ?

    Some of us brassbowls look to you for “guidance”.

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  • @Bush T
    I bow to your intimate knowledge of that Institution, but surely an academic body catering to the masses will produce an assortment of graduates that reflect society as a whole. While you may have “clerks” you will also have some that become those “clerks” bosses, some that excel in business, academia, the sciences, medicine ( I hesitate to say law) and other worthwhile pursuits and become household names in the interim.

    It is from that group of “excellers” that I would hope the University would draft a group of “eminent persons” (here I am borrowing from the politicians) to lead a fund raising/endowment effort. I would have one caveat and that is leave politics at the door, they would be non- partisan, no speeches or photo ops with ministers ,politicians or fly by night would be political candidates ( I realize how hard this would be in Barbados but a fellow can dream).

    There is an adage “The Lord helps those who help themselves”, it is time for those at Cave Hill to help themselves.

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  • @ Hants
    You want Bushie to put down the whacker and do some planting?
    The solution is in planting the right seeds for the produce you want to reap.
    If we have already planted a lotta shiite, then the whacker is the next best control system.

    The stupid mantra about “a graduate in every household” is fatally flawed.

    The University needs a sensible VISION. One that articulated a purpose related to absolute quality of human development that is judged by the highest possible standards. The MAIN focus needs to be on the couple hundred REALLY talented persons who can be developed to this level….and who will be the source of future national leadership, of cultural and other development. Such talent must be identified as early as possible (primary school) and be constantly monitored and focused.

    These high quality students would be intimately involved in actual research into national issues, designing transparent solutions, creating improvements and improving national life… THIS is what should be used to gauge the government’s funding of the university….not just numbers, but quality contributions to societal and personal development.

    steupsss.. anyway, such thinking is beyond brass bowls so it won’t happen anyway…so Bushie will stick with the whacker for now…

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  • Should we invite the Central Bank to allocate part of its lavish entertainment budget to host a Lee – Singapore series? Some learnings from that model we can borrow, the element of vision and then uncompromising execution.

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  • @ Sargeant
    The Lord don’t “help those who help themselves”.
    That is a lotta shiite….
    Those who do the right things reap the right results. Those like David Thompson and Carry-way-ton who “helped themselves” quite handsomely can’t expect any Lord to help them….

    If you create an atmosphere of mediocrity, you CANNOT at the same time emphasise EXCELLENCE. These two are mutually exclusive.
    Those students who are highly focused on excellence tend to be attracted to universities that focus on absolute quality… leaving the mediocre to themselves…otherwise they will compromise their potential.

    Like Stuart’s lack of vision for Barbados, Sir Cave’s misguided vision for UWI is our downfall. His focus in on “income”…which was driven by numbers, …and on a foolish government policy of” paying for registration”.
    This was NEVER sustainable….

    Where there in no vision…..
    LOL …even worse where there is a shiite vision….

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ Lemuel April 22, 2015 at 7:34 AM

    Even though it might not be well with his soul please let OSA rest in political peace.

    What I would like to hear from you is whether you are for or against the Mona campus of the UWI bringing marijuana in from the cold.
    It seems Jamaica with the tacit backing of Pres. Obama is about to “legitimize” the ganga business.
    It seems also Sir Hilary B really has a keen sense of smell of money. Research and copyright is big business. No longer concrete and ste(a)l.

    What are your entrepreneurial guys in Bim waiting for? To be importers of products of ganga made in Jamaica?
    But if ganga becomes decriminalize in Bim you might have to make 30% of the Police force and 50 % of the Defence force redundant just like the NCC and Drainage workers.
    It seems the words of the rebel Peter and the prophet Bob have finally come true.
    “Legalize it, don’t criticize it!”

    What sayest thou, Lemmy the moral luddite?

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  • @ Peter Parker

    The PM of Barbados is worthy of the maximum disrespect. Not only he but the Leader of the Opposition too!

    And everybody else in authority ’bout hey!

    Last time we checked respect was to be earned, not owed to anybody, regardless of the position held. Not even Elizabeth! Their failures must have a price, not eternal genuflection.

    The people should use all their weapons in the fight against this system. This cannot be a time to for some anachronistic sentimentality.

    In addition to showing gross ‘disrespect’ the PM should be caricatured. Mocked in public! Thrown eggs at! And what ever the people judge he is deserving of.

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  • @ Brother (at arms) Bush Tea

    Man you wacking today, wacking

    That statement “What can an alumni group of clerks contribute to a university?…”

    Powful man powful…

    The hiatus that we are experiencing can be best explained by what I call “the illusion of graduation”

    We have been fooled to believe that some of the best minds have graduated, and are graduating from our vaunted, “foot-stooled” UWI, Cave Hill and the rest of them to a lesser degree??

    We then have extrapolated that thought to fool ourselves (I almost said stool ourselves, though, given what we are experiencing, stool is probably the better word, given Sir Hilary’s stool of power administrative offices) yes, we have been fooled to think that UWI is a place where sophisticated research communities would auto-generate and Einsteinian products and graduates would be walking out of cave hill’s doors every year, to run the cvntry like a veritable Silicon Valley and Wall Street.

    I just want you to remember our own Minister of Fine Ants from Garrison Secondary and his brilliant display and mastery of decimal points…LOL

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  • Dee Ingrunt Word

    Bushie, you whack so well either because you have already planted and reaped all the successes you could and now feel rather comfortable just whacking; or you tried planting, failed miserably and now feel rather comfortable just whacking. I surmise it’s probably a bit of both really.

    Your dissertation of “What can an alumni group of clerks contribute to a university” is ridiculous and you know that. To suggest that the UWI Cave Hill has only or just produced those who take clerical orders is absolutely simplistic and sensational nonsensical verbiage. There are so many of those graduates who are leaders here and other places and many who became successful entrepreneurs.

    So like your planting/whacking scenario the real situation goes well beyond a simple remark. This is the same Bushie who admonished about trying to simplify complex matters!

    I can completely agree with you that Cave Hill could do a much better job as a research center and being an incubator for new developments but your ‘clerks’ rant badly diminishes the work done by the teams there with Solar Energy research and development and the work in the marine research area going back many years. To name two key steps.

    Surely there have been other major successes.

    And just as surely as Artaxerxes articulated yesterday there are many who did their ‘soft degrees’ and who fulfill that clerical model as you suggest.

    Like Hants I would also enjoy less of the aimless and interminably whacking away and a balance with thoughts of a way for change.

    In reality it does take a high level of solid intelligence to understand how to keep a whacker working so it’s really not asking too much to have some of that intelligence directed to planting too!

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  • @Word

    The measure of the success of our education must be seen in our ability to manage key sectors of our society and economy, an over dependence on external resources. Let us begin at this point…

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  • @ Dee Ingrunt
    Boss…why don’t you write your shiite and let Bushie write his…?

    There are so many of those graduates who are leaders here and other places and many who became successful entrepreneurs.
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    Where? …you just assuming right?

    “…diminishes the work done by the teams there with Solar Energy research and development and the work in the marine research area going back many years. To name two key steps.
    Surely there have been other major successes.”
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    Other successes? You think THESE are successes worthy of a university funded to the level of UWI? LOL…Ha Ha Ha ….oh shirt…
    what others…?

    Do you understand the concept of EXCELLENCE? ….steupsss

    @ Piece
    The way things are …actually does make sense in the grand scheme of things… don’t get Bushie wrong….
    When the objective is to create diamonds, one cannot expect conditions other than high heat and pressure to prevail.
    Those expecting perfect conditions and no pressure to prevail are clueless as to the intended objectives…..
    Like UWI, they can’t seriously expect to produce diamonds …. just a lotta shiite

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  • Dee Ingrunt Word

    David you are on point as usual so, there is no dispute re a ” measure of the success …in our ability to manage key sectors …an over dependence on external resources.” but if you break that down carefully you would realize that our nation has progressed through various stages of that management cycle.

    We had a lot of ex-pats at one point as we gained the knowledge; then a lot of them were kicked out and the government experts (or to listen to the BU faithful: sycophants) were put in place.

    Where we are today is the stage where we have comprehensively INVITED a new set of ex-pats to manage our key sectors.

    As was discussed here already, why is our only power and energy company in the hands of ex-pats? Is it not the same well-educated UWI folks who allowed that and INVITED them.

    Why is there a T&T owned company logo on practically every key business in the island? Were they not basically INVITED by people who wanted to cash out their investments? Is this not Caribbean integration at its absolute best!

    We can’t be for integration and enhancing wealth and all the other awesome things that elevates Bajans and facilitate the big houses and fancy cars and then get pissed when we don’t like the outcome.

    When T&T and Jam got pissed off because little Barbados was being the big-shot with that thing called integration and shut that down we were upset.

    Now that T&T is leading a commercial integration of the two islands we are upset again! Is that not hypocrisy?

    Now that company directors and a complicit gov’t of the day have sold the only power company is that not simply stupidity and greed.

    Who abrogated the management of the key sectors to external resources…the same UWI educated folks who lead our nation! And this is definitely not the clerical group!

    Can’t have it both ways, David!

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  • Dee Ingrunt Word

    Bushie I am sure you can quote to me the phrase ‘to who much is given…’. You have been given a big voice here on BU by your fellow bloggers so it’s abundantly unacceptable that you can simply palaver with a whacker of tenuous logic like “what can an alumni group of clerks contribute…”.

    You provide solid, insightful discourse like “The University needs a sensible VISION. One that articulated a purpose related to absolute quality of human development that is judged by the highest possible standards”.

    I enjoy the sensible part of BU and thus find it extremely difficult to accept inane remarks from someone who otherwise presents solid commentary and is clearly very informed and intelligent.

    So by all means continue to write your ….

    If you don’t want to be engaged then so be it. I will not going forward.

    In that regard you are even more like your good friend Pacha. At least you don’t cuss and denigrate when you disagree.

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ Dee Ingrunt Word April 22, 2015 at 4:04 PM
    “As was discussed here already, why is our only power and energy company in the hands of ex-pats? Is it not the same well-educated UWI folks who allowed that and INVITED them.”

    “Why is there a T&T owned company logo on practically every key business in the island? Were they not basically INVITED by people who wanted to cash out their investments? Is this not Caribbean integration at its absolute best!”

    Very interesting comments you made there, DIW!
    Both intellectually sound and philosophically balanced.
    I suspect Bushie et al are seeing the wasteful output of the UWI only through the eyes of the Bajan graduates especially the homegrown Cave Hill variety.
    I suspect many of those “Trickidadian” and Jamaican managers are themselves graduates of the same UWI.

    The Barbados ‘education’ system is fashioned on old Victorian ‘class’ principles designed to separate the working class goats from the white collar sheep. The Eleven plus relic is testimony to that. Black Bajans have always played the roles of social hewers of wood and economic carriers of water. The UWI, especially Cave Hill, has just glorified them into black servants, bookies and clerks.

    There is little entrepreneurial or self-reliant about the black Bajan ‘cultural’ mindset. The UWI trained Bajan lawyers are classic examples of this dependency and crooked parasitic cultural phenomenon.
    For where else in the world can lawyers do the amount of ‘sht’ they do in Barbados and walk the streets free like Leroy the leper?

    The plantation mentality is permanently embedded in the psyche of the black Bajan whether educated at Cave Hill or at the university of Hull or York or Pace.
    Its time you get rid of the Eleven plus that produces the educational divide.
    Give each child “free tablets’ and access to the Internet and let every secondary school be a lucky dip for each child allowing him or her to “break for themselves” in the coming new virtual classroom of the brave educational world of ICT.

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  • @millertheanunnaki April 22, 2015 at 5:45 PM “The UWI trained Bajan lawyers are classic examples of this dependency and crooked parasitic cultural phenomenon.
    For where else in the world can lawyers do the amount of ‘sht’ they do in Barbados and walk the streets free like Leroy the leper?”

    Cuhdear miller etc.

    Leroy the non-leper is not a graduate of UWI..I don’t think that he graduated from anywhere…except perhaps from Brumley. But he is Prime Minister Freundel Stuart’s friend, but you can’t blame UWI for Leroy…really you can’t.

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  • @Lemuel April 22, 2015 at 7:34 AM “I heard that Simpson motors took up Owen Arthur jeep (with 5 rings) Audi.”

    Dear Lemuel:

    There are still a lot of nice second Suzuki’s out there, so what’s the problem? Stupsee!!!!!!!!!!

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ Simple Simon April 22, 2015 at 9:29 PM

    Leroy might not be a graduate of the UWI but he is sure of a lot smarter than any of them.
    Why be a graduate when you could have at least three prime ministers and dozens of lawyers who are graduates of the same UWI in your pocket and at your beck and call eating out of your dirty leprous palms?

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  • @millertheanunnaki April 22, 2015 at 9:02 AM “What I would like to hear from you is whether you are for or against the Mona campus of the UWI bringing marijuana in from the cold.”

    Was talking to Little Johnny about this new fashioed thing about growing herb at Mona. Little Johhny rolled up on the floor laughing so hard and said “herb has always been grown at Mona…behind every other bush, especially the bushes near to the male halls.

    But I didn’t go to Mona so I don’t know whether this is true. Perhaps Georgie Porgie or moneybrain and them other bright fellas can tell me whether this is so or not.

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  • millertheanunnaki April 22, 2015 at 9:42 PM #

    Why be a graduate when you could have at least three prime ministers and dozens of lawyers who are graduates of the same UWI in your pocket and at your beck and call eating out of your dirty leprous palms?
    ………………………………………………………………………………………..
    The plantation system all over again. The master or mistress in the great house, had no need to obtain a license to drive the plantation big black sedan car, all he or she had to do was to step out of the great house front door,and a running uniformed chauffeur would be at their beck and call. We are still loitering under the evergreen tree ,patiently waiting for a glass of mauby, and a pig head.

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  • I got two words for Leroy the leper who thinks he is protected by who he knows and what he’s got on them – Everton Gittens…..

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  • Respect must be earned not bought.
    It can’t be easy being the laughing stock of this island and the Eastern Caribbean, hence the venom .
    There are certain persons on this island that think that sloth, graft , inertia, incompetence & tardiness should be rewarded with accolades!
    God help us.

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  • “Prime Minister Stuart… all we want for Christmas is for the giant to be aroused from his slumber”

    And he has!

    I was surprised with our Prime Minister forceful rebuttal of Sir Hilary and the uncharacteristic language that he engaged to undermine the ex-chancellor of the UWI. I would call his words a public slap down.

    Here are those words as quoted in Barbados Today:

    “We have a principal of a university descending from Mount Olympus, as he sees it, and deciding that he presides over an institution of learning that is not just an institution of learning but that is an alternative government.”

    Our esteemed Prime Minister went even further in his chastisement of Sir Hilary: “If you want to be a politician, leave the security of your prepared position, come down and join the fray and be prepared to be dealt with politically.”

    “OUCH!”

    http://www.barbadostoday.bb/2015/04/22/shall-we-punish-our-mr-stuart-with-laughter/

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  • Sarge I don’t have anything against old people BUT I have a problem with “Old” people who should know better and wrong from right. I have a problem with “Old” people who continue to live in the past and wish for the past to come back. I have a problem with”Old” people who continue to berate the young people and won’t let go of the reigns and allow younger ones to take the lead. “Old” people like Bushie and GP who feel they are the only one righteous ones on this earth and that what they say is the only way. I have a problem with “Old” people who reject new ideas and refuse to embrace change.

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  • @ Islandgal
    “…..people like Bushie and GP who feel they are the only righteous ones on this earth….”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    You like you also have a problem with old english yuh….
    You mustbe mean GP. 🙂

    Bushie feel he righteous…..? well why yuh don’t invite the bushman down by yuh plantation when the islandguy gone out ..and see how righteous Bushie is….?

    Perhaps you mean that Bushie feel that BBE’s laws are the only righteous ones…
    …besides ….you ain’t no young yam yuhself ….Islandgal wuh?
    shiite woman …. yuh soon gotta change your handle …..to Islandhag246

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  • @IG246
    Pay no attention the Bushie, why do you think he is so critical of Stuart? He recognizes a kindred soul they are both cut from the same cloth “over promise and under deliver”. I hear that Mia will be in TO next month and there is a function where she will be guest speaker so I may attend to get her views on events.

    As this thread seems to be running out of juice the attached is off topic but it is a story that makes you go Hmmnnnn…..

    http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2015/04/22/a-kings-ransom-swaziland-rulers-jet-held-in-ontario.html

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  • There will always be tension caused by the battle of old and new ideas colliding. What must be. Contant is that in the process must be filled with mutual respect. Successful societies are underpinned by the old supporting the young and the young respecting the old.

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  • Caswell Franklyn

    Bushie

    What’s wrong with you? Why would you want to go by Islandgal when Islandguy goes out? Are you in the business of changing PAMPERS?

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  • Is anyone listening to this jackass on VOB now?

    Hey, jackass, respect is earned. You cannot demand people show respect to the Pm when he shows none or little to people who have a different view from the DLP.

    Tell your PM to respect Barbadians, you lackey!

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  • BUSHITE (thank you AC) why don’t you kiss my BIG BLACK TOE?

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  • Ms.Watson has her heart in the right place but she exposed her naivtee on several issues. Last week she was correctly upbraided by former talk show host Marsha Hinds-Layne. Today she allowed herself to be drawn in to a conversation having not read the BT article about what Dr. Joseph commented. It is clear she has a bent.

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  • @ Islandgal
    ….why don’t you kiss my BIG BLACK TOE?
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    When…?

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  • Sargeant April 23, 2015 at 7:51 AM #

    “I hear that Mia will be in TO next month and there is a function where she will be guest speaker so I may attend to get her views on events.”

    Where? When?

    Could be worthwhile going to here her remarks.

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  • David

    Another moderator would have said….let me have a read before I comment but no, she proceeded to engage the man who believes that Fumble was right to lambast Sir Hillary.

    I really had to stop listening when “Arthur” called in, that man is so naive. He asked Tricia where in the constitution was free education written…..he said people have a habit of saying Mr Barrow said this or that but he never said anything about free education “ad finitum”. Of course Tricia agreed.

    I will never say that the time would not come for parents to pay for some portion of their children’s education at Cave Hill as some of us paid for our children at overseas universities.

    My problem is why do it in 2014 when things are so hard……

    When your policies have made Barbadians poorer……..

    When your government has sent home 6500 public workers who are the same poor parents of the children who want to go to UWI.

    You have made the economy worse than when you found it in 2008, the parents have no jobs, there are no prospects of any on the horizon, the parents unemployment benefits have run out……..yet you are telling the parents to pay for their children.

    This government is the worst thing ever foisted on Barbadians. It is going to take years to get out of this.

    Dr Mascoll’s column is good reading today! The dems can only hide the truth for so long, there are people who are smarter than them who can read between his lies.

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  • Prodigal
    I did the same thing when the notorious defender of the Dems started his diatribe.I know some have a bias to one or the other political party but this fellow Arthur and the CBC moderator Maureen take bias to another level.I don’t listen to CBC call in ever.Too much hymn singing from the dlp hymn sheet.Maureen sing soprano,John and Arthur bass.They call that harmony…lol.

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  • @Prodigal

    The problem many have with this government on the Cave Hill tuition matter is that it was never a platform issue yet it was obviously a decision in the breach all the while. It us a credibility issue.

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  • This sudden policy catspaddled many people. A friend of one of my children took a year off because of the finances in the home, she wanted to help out. Now she cannot afford to pay tuition, all the two years studying is down the drain.

    This is so sad.

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  • steuse

    another long day of diatribe and political poop from the likes of prodigal ,,

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  • Prodigal Son April 23, 2015 at 2:57 PM #

    “Dr Mascoll’s column is good reading today! The dems can only hide the truth for so long, there are people who are smarter than them who can read between his lies.”

    Dr. Mascoll’s articles are always a good read (especially when he makes his comments as “Mascoll the economist” and not “Mascoll the politician.”)

    One does not have to possess a PhD in economics to conclude this administration has been manipulating the economic data so as to give Barbadians the illusion that the economy is improving.

    Then we have the Trinidadian bankers who often come out to give their spin on Barbados’ economic situation, which more often than not, is always in sync with the Central Bank’s reports or evaluations from Sinckler.

    Interestingly, when the “shit hits the fan”, these Trini bankers retreat into the background without admitting their assessments were incorrect. Then they wait “patiently silent” until the next Central Bank report so they can “re-warm” their speeches.

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  • It is evidentiary truth that in Barbados anybody can become a Prime Minister.Further,it is an obvious truth that only a select few can become the Vice-Chancellor of the University of the West Indies.To those politically inclined to follow Stuart’s puerile contribution to the observation of the Principal who must know his facts,I say to you carry on,time longer than twine.

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  • good ball gabriel!

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  • @ Artaxerxes April 23, 2015 at 6:13 PM #

    Good post.

    We have so many persons out of work who cannot find work yet the governor brazenly said that the unemployment rate went down from 13% to 11%.

    Where were these jobs created? Who got them? A friend of mine who got laid off in the private sector told me that when they went to register, a clerk there said……”come and register, government is still taking on people, dont mind what they are saying”. So maybe the jobs were created in government.

    I have never seen the manipulation of minds ever before like we have witnessed since 2008. We have people who believe every last word these blatant liars spout…… we have the “brek up dem” touting that the unemployment rate has gone down to 11%.

    Delusional people. Gabriel is so right…………….carry on,time longer than twine.

    Wait, Gabriel, what has become of the man who liked to use that phrase?

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  • The unemployment number is informed by those surveyed who are actively looking for work.

    The MOA will be on the People’s Business on Sunday night to discuss his pipe laying and fancy BWA headquarters.

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  • @GP gran pa u know missing from the files of BU are your long drawn out on interpretations on religious dialogue,, interestingly enough you have gone from religion to the political arena ,, maybe it is true that a fool and his folly will at sometime depart,

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  • @Due Diligence

    Thornhill Community Centre
    May 9th -2015
    6.30 pm -1.00 am
    Sponsor: HC-QC Alumni Association
    Donation: $40.00

    Check with Hants for your tickets.

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  • @ David
    It is about time that this unemployment shiite is cleaned up though…
    Obviously it is a political gimmick to count unemployment only for those actively looking for work…
    Shiite man, when 6000 people have been laid of by government and another 6000 by the private sector, who the hell will be “actively looking for work”? Wuh people may be brass bowls but dey ain’t damn foolish like AC…

    So then as things get worse, we can expect “unemployment” to improve as more and more people give up and stop looking?
    Lotta shiite…

    Why can’t they provide figures for:
    …. Percentage in the workforce and employed
    …. percentage NOT currently working
    …. percentage NOT working, and who are actively looking for work

    ohhhh sorry …. that would make too much sense and convey too clear a picture to everyone.

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  • @Due Diligence

    Doan mine Sargeant, I am not a member of any alumni association neither do I attend political functions.

    Tobesides I would be too tired when I get back home from fishing,

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  • why bush sh,te that craw fish bone been stuck in your throat fuh a long time ac suggest u gargle wid some razor blades to get it out,,,,

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  • I agree with you Bushie!

    Why does the ac’s think they have to comment on every post on BU? Is there not enough gutter sniping to do in George Street?

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  • @Bush Tea

    The true measure is to check the state of the Unemployment Fund.

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  • @ Prodigal
    LOL
    Leave AC alone Boss…. she is one of David(BU)’s best assets.
    Bushie has no idea how David pulls it off, but this AC thing is a masterstroke….

    Do you think that ANYONE would believe that there could be SUCH stupid people around if we did not have AC here as proof?
    shiite man….wuh AC helps us to understand Froon, Stinkliar, ….the whole government AND the opposition too yuh…..

    BU David is a boss….and AC is the consummate brass bowl bajan yard fowl

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  • Sargeant April 23, 2015 at 9:24 PM #
    @Due Diligence

    Thornhill Community Centre
    May 9th -2015
    6.30 pm -1.00 am
    Sponsor: HC-QC Alumni Association
    Donation: $40.00

    Thanks for info.

    This has got to be a first

    The event, a fundraiser for HC-QC, is under the Patronage of the Hon. Haynsley Benn, Consul General for Barbados at Toronto, and the Speaker is the Hon. Mia Motley, QC, MP, Leader of the Opposition in Barbados.

    DD got to go see this.

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  • How can the Prime Minister ask anyone to come down from Mount Olympus, when its people like him, and some of his cronies, and the many graduates whose names are published in today’s newspapers with outstanding Student Revolving Loans payments, who have kicked down the proverbial stairway to Mount Olympus?

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