Onions

You are on the right track. The world has changed. The narrative about managing our business has to change.

@ac
There’s a distinct difference between civil leadership and political leadership. Politics is in a class of its own.

@ Observing
if one chooses to belive that. people are not willing to accept unethical practices as the norm anymore either civil or political look at the many uprising in varying countries where the people have brought down their govt due in part to corruption in the past years, the people eyes are opened it is not going to be business as usual!

WHERE HAVE ALL YOUR LEADERS GONE…DLP ?….
….gimme a EWB….but not a sandi…please.

@ac
Taken that we’ve come to an agreement, then it stands to reason that Barbados has a serious problem since we stand for so much sh*#* from ALL our leaders.

@ttp and David
If the government knew, or found out that cost of living or inflation could not be contained…shouldn’t this inability have been conveyed from day one given it was job #1, 2 and 3?

The truth of the matter in ALL BLUNDER-ISMS that we have seen..is that the men were green-horns….face it. DLP-ites….from Leadership , MOF, party communications,budgets, economic choices…..THEY WERE TOO INEXPERIENCED….and just blundered thru…with an attitude..never take BLP advice….well babies…NOW YOU PAY !…in all the history of bababoess..wha we neva see a budget like this in a election year….onions nah lie.?

@ observing.

PERCEPTION is a powerful tool of convincing the mind and closing one eyes to reality but it can only take you short term because when people eyes become opened and realised their mistakes and consequences Reality steps in and all hell breaks loose. the govt of the past being in controlled was able to manipulate the masses and fooled them that all was good and everything being done was in their best interest but lo and behold reality is beginning to take a foothold and people sooner rather than later have started to confront leadership at a higher level based on trust worthiness and believe you me the tide has begun to turn and leaders who thought they were exempt from unethical practices under the lens of the political microscope would be indeed be in for a rude awakening. the pm is on the right track and for the sake of the country and its integrity must remain focus and intent on getting rid of corruption and unethical practices within our political system

@enuff

as i said, u r only about sound bites, was it only bus fares that the middle to lower class beefitte from, in addition to the 1920 i woul have used, add in the move to minimun wage to 250 a week how much that would be a mont, lets assume minimun wage was 200 thats an additional 2600 hundred a year. What about the savings in not having to pay to send their children to camp. Lets assume private camps charge 75 a week for eight weeks and govt is free thats an additional six hundred dollars in savings.

I think you need to think before you write. If most of the factors that affect our economy are imported, do u think that we can control the cost, or u would like the govt to reduce taxees and consequently reduce revenue and consequently reduction or services to the less vylnerable.

If u believe the budget was nothing, why are people saying the concessions would jump start agriculture, my only regret that levies were not levelled on idle africultural land.

I done with you, where there is no vision the people perish and since you dont have any vision u would want us to perish. It aint gone happen yah hear.

@ To the point
My approach to policy formulation and its effectiveness is different to yours–I am no dinosaur. Policy ought to be based on evidence not assumptions.

“I think you need to think before you write. If most of the factors that affect our economy are imported, do u think that we can control the cost, or u would like the govt to reduce taxees and consequently reduce revenue and consequently reduction or services to the less vylnerable.”

You should have told the Dems this in 2007-08.

@Bush Tea | July 1, 2012 at 9:38 AM |
“The truth is that we err when we allow people like Burns to come here with their highfaluting schemes and their warped morals in the hope for jobs for Bajans.”

serves all who were involved right. if Burns was a black man from north africa or the caribbean, he would have be laughed out of the island but a jackass looking, crumpled=up face dummy, such as Burns could come here, with high ideas, and the masses would kiss his hoof. i have NO sympathy for Bizzy and whoever else, as a matter of fact they only got what they have been dishing out to small black entrepenuers over the years,e.g the reconditioned car industry for instance when Simpson motors along with others, delivered a signed a letter to Arthur at the time demanding that interest be increased on
the reconditioned cars, effectively shutting down those business. i hope others follow. i.e. that all the other business here that has been hell bent on robbing the small man would fall just like Redjet.

It’s amazing how your arguments can be turned against the said persons you are trying to defend.
@observing
the people of whom you speak have not been in power for 14years and don’t have a history of unethical practices by their leaders. The ones of whom i am speaking leadership has left a trail of deceit along the way for all and sundry to gaze and analysis, there is no dismissing that , So far i have never heard of any !any! not one iota of misconduct on the part of PM STUART. as a leader he owes the country a duty to set it on a correct path not only economically but morally as well away from corruption one than the past govt has set in place.

Hey ac
OSA just punch a BIG hole in this whole nonsense of FBI or CIA files theory…..why ya doan come down here and get some JWB…it flowing ….a Gorg’s Paradise.About 500 people in attendance and rising…

If this attendance is any indication to go by…. St.James South is a safe seat….Bye Bye DLP…lol

Does anyone know if the Burns Boys come from an Aviation background’

of what interest is that information to you now? didn’t you throw your full support behind RDJET when others were raising red flags?

Was it about Arthur denying knowledge about an FBI Report or was it to do with Stuart accusing Arthur of what he said in an interview with Thorne from CBC?
if that is your view then so be it but i refer you to the caption in Friday’s weekend nation- PM, OPPOSITION LEADER CLASH OVER ALLEGED FBI PROBE-uinder the headline .’ GHOST’ REPORT
does not have to think twice about answering you when you seem not to understand your role as the BU editor IS TO BE FAIR AND BALANCED.

@ balance | July 1, 2012 at 8:21 PM |
“So i find the speculation on the forum about a seemingly non-existent FBI report amusing and to no avail.”

Balance, I am trying to figure out your position of this missing or phantom report. What is the political intent of Mr. Stuart raising this matter in Parliament at this point in time? Since Mr. Stuart was informed, on assuming office, that the report “could not have been found” don’t you think a competent AG or PM would have taken steps to obtain a replacement copy (if it existed in the first place) from the authors of such an official and important report?
Mr. Stuart implicitly accused Mr. Arthur of lying to the country and by extension complicit in criminal matters by suppressing or destroying a report on the corrupt activities of senior public officers and political figures.

The onus therefore, “balance” is on Mr. Stuart to produce the report. He has the wherewithal at his disposal to take such action. It is not Mr. Arthur’s responsibility or can it be in his interest to magically produce such report .It is highly likely the local American Embassy would have received a copy of such a report. Did Mr. Arthur use his “agents saboteurs” to infiltrate such bastion of security to remove any vestiges of such a politically valuable document? Maybe Wikileaks could shed some light here!

Come on balance, Mr. Stuart is rather weak and boring when it comes to discussing matters of an economic or financial nature (that is what the budget was about) and as a result he must find something “riveting” to get people to listen to him, especially at that time of the day. He relishes in politically undressing Mr. Arthur knowing full well he could attract a large audience of voyeurs; with the likes of “ac” and BLPNationNewspaper in the front row ogling. Like Mr. Barrow with the Duffus commission of enquiry a prime minister in office that long of a period is always an easy target for scandal and allegations of corruption and malfeasance in public office.

David

I only have access to the online Nation but I didn’t know their headline proclaimed “Ghost report”. So where did the rumour start? I have been hearing about this for years and one of my big up Banker friends in Barbados told me about this “report” and even told me about some names which were supposedly on it. Is the “report” a figment of Bajans imagination like the Steel Donkey or the Bacoo?

Nothing ghostly about the Nation’s headline they applied their Editorial license to good effect in a partisan manner.

If this “report” exists it should not be a problem for the Gov’t to get its hands on it as the US Gov’t would not turn down a request from a friendly Gov’t to forward a copy and if the PM has the goods he should tell all and not wait for some December surprise.

@AC

the reason why the hotel maffia attacked stuart is because he cannot be bribed.

Forget about enuff and onions they are relics. The dlp was not in goverenment so when they took up the realms they realized that the BLP had given the countrya false impression when they had some of the massive debt well concealed. Nevertheless, the ecoonmy has been managed well and they dont like it.

If people are saying that leadership should be an issue when the elections are called, dont you think thw quality of the leader should aslo enter the equation. Thats why it is fair fame to deal with the reliability of a leader.

I hope that the DLP has made copies of the tape with mr thorne to use in an adv showing how arthur cannt be trusted. Well the recor of Hansard whould be used where he deny he kew of the contract of vesco. The coopy of the 75 000 cheque deposited to his account and the pegasus infor should slso form part of the commuication strategy against him, whar say ye.

@Sargeant

i sat in my living room an heard owen arthur said there was a report, The crux of the matter is he is the one who said so beamed to our living room and got the audacity to say that he never said so. in fact that is whyhe called a dlp meber of parliament to ask what bombshell that was going to be dropped during the Estimates.

I am sure david, if a punlic poll was done if arthur did say that, most adult barbadains will remember that.

@Sargeant

All kinds of names were tossed around even a Captain somebody. We shall all wait to see where this goes but the ball is now in the PM’s court.

The only reason why the report will not be shown to the public is that there is likely to be “cross-contamination”.

Barbados politicians will talk nuff shiite but none ah dem gine get lock up so enjoy the electioneering theatrics coming soon to a mass meeting near you.

Hope you enjoyed Canada Day Sargeant. I spent most of it watching the West Indies beat NZ. Sweeeeeet!

@To the Point

The question remains however, will it resonate with the electorate at a time when economic and leaderships issues are at the forefront.

@ttp
“The coopy of the 75 000 cheque deposited to his account and the pegasus infor should slso form part of the commuication strategy against Arthur”

If the DLP focuses on this as the plank of their campaign they will lose bigger than they are slated to as we speak. Decapitating Arthur does absolutely NOTHING to the strength of the BLP at the ballot box. Via Mia they have provided debatable alternatives, shown that they can be considered to run the country again and demonstrated that they have depth on their team with respect to the the primary issue (economy and cost of living concerns). When in opposition that’s 80% of the battle done even before it has started.

Have you read the broken promises leaflet??? Care to comment on the ISSUES rather than the slander???

“We are dealing with the living and issues surrounding your corrupt and lied leader”

If it turns out (proven) that DT was in bed with CLICO on decisions, transactions, political interference, money shifting, gross campaign financing and cronyism….doesn’t the fate of 35,000 and 4-5 OECD countries affect the living?

Just observing

@David

The elecions are going to be fought around leadership, among other things, thats what I am saying. Further our political cultural lansscape needs to change. Who will bell the cat.

I am what who belive that we are responsible for our actions and any wrong doing should be exposed. Stuart will have to decide on that, but we have not matured enough politically to expose corruption and that can only hppen when the integrity legislation is passed. When we remove the capmpaign financers from the political process. look at the amount of maney that was spent by both parties, do you believe their returns to the Chief Electoral Officer were truthful.

WE NEED THE LEGSLATION NOW MORESO THAN EVER.

@dAVID

DO YOU SEE HOW OBAMA IS STARTING TO CARFT HIS STRATEGY EVEN THOUGH ECONOMIC ISSUES ARE BEING PUSHED BY THE REPUBLICAN. THE DLP HAS TO CARFT ITS STRATEGY TO SHOW INSPITE OF THE ECONOMIC TIMES, IT KEPT FULL EMPLOYMENT IN THE PS, AMONG OTHER THINGS. IT HAS ALREADY STARTED TO HAVE A RESPONSE TO THE LEADERSHIP OF STUART VERSUSA RTHUR AND IT NEEDS TO DO MORE TWEEKING.

IT HS TO HAVE A SPECIAL STRATEGY FOR THE FLOATING VOTER WHO COMES FROM MOSTLY THE MIDDLE CLASS, THIS IS MY VIEW AS THERE IS NO ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT MY VIEW.