All Ican say is “as a man thinketh so he is.”

@balance

Live and let live that is the Bajan’s mantra.

The point is the remark was heard and gives insight into Hoyos’ thinking.

If this were a Shakespeare class and his utterence were taken as a soliloquy it would provide terrific insight.

Now we have it.

What was most amazing about the Programme on Sunday was the love fest between Hoyos, Ryan Straughn and Clyde Mascoll.
The most common line by Hoyos was “What you are saying then Clyde is…………..” and he then proceeds to repeat and agree with the dribble Mascoll puts out.
The least VOB could do is to get a real moderator who would challenge those in the studio.

Here is a recommendation for VOB.

If the DLP does not accept the invitation to the show to battle with Mascoll and co and minimum the moderator should be the one to strike a balance.

Invite a lecturer or economist from in or outside the market to give a different commentary.

It is obvious Ryan Straughn is a little too ‘familiar’ and Hoyos colours are apparent.

The VOB needs to consider its reputation, the program on Sunday was a farce.

VOB should have expected this- Pat Hoyos has been the most consistent critic of the current government. In the last 4 articles he has focused his vitriol on the late PM Thompson, the current PM Stuart, Dennis Kellman and Min. Of Finance Chris Sinckler.
Everyone with a brain who reads his column can tell which party he supports and on the same day that he is cussing the government in the Sunday Sun, the smart asses at VOB bring Hoyos to “moderate” a political / economic discussion.
What the hell was VOB thinking ?
That Hoyos would have a 11am – 1pm Sunday conversion.Please ! VOB, ya start wrong, ya will end wrong!
Get a new moderator! HOYOS must Go!

He deserved an apology and he got it, having said that David Thompson recognized the man for what he is and gave him short thrift. Both parties are filled with useful idiots but I am not disclosing anything we didn’t already know, however that is the nature of politics.

Its time these people with political agenda respect the fact that each person is entitled to their opinion;its a demoracy we have here in BIM the last time I checked and they need to GROW UP and let us go forward as a mature Society.I am fedup of reading a BIASED newspaper with articles that are not considering or presenting all sides;and just as fedup with listening to BIASED talk shows of the same. Where is the old time “Debate”?
Present both sides for and against and let the public decide.
IS that too much to ask from the political parties??
Stop the mudslinging ;deceitfulness ;planting people in critical places with political agenda and STICK TO THE MOOT.We young people fedup!!

It is very humorous listening to the level of discussion on Brasstacts on any given week. These rantings and ravings coming from seemingly intelligent people, leave a lot to be desired. I listen to these people on the internet and I wonder if Barbados is still one of the best places to be educated.

Pat Hoyos has been exposed and his partisan nakedness revealed for all Barbados to see.

What is most revealing is that he was cussing the DLP representative in the presence of the BLP representative. It is obvious to everyone that the BLP had more than one representative on that Sunday programme.
Pat Hoyos is the biggest fraud in Barbados.

Sargeant | March 27, 2012 at 7:45 PM | …David Thompson…

And this has significance because???

@ NationBLPnewspaper
He has been “exposed” like Farley who expressed an interest in contesting the St.John by election on a DLP ticket, Maxine McClean who is now a Senator as is Harry Husbands; and the recently fired Chairman of the NIS.
Where the calls for firings at CBC that is public-owned?

I have always interpreted the use of the word ‘Kellmanomics’ by others as a way of subtly saying ‘he talking shite’.

VOB needs to conduct a poll or actually I think the NATION seeks weekly to sell more papers by posting the results of polls ;so get them to poll listeners to any program conducted by Mr.Hoyos. The results would be telling. I really think its time that WILLIAMS Company who sponsors Sunday Brasstacks should hold their feet to the fire to make sure they are getting their moneys worth!

Come now ….We all know Pat is a gentleman and did not know that the mic was on….Pat you forgiven…you handled it well.

BUT Kellman when we go get some fishes coming out D agreement you were paid 3 yrs on… to negotiate and Bobby had to rush in to save face ?
You now on Manufacturing …I guess we can expect the same right ?

Apology or not Denis Kellman does talk bare shite. Before he had a cabinet position he was objective but now all he uses to complain about is good now.

Oh Come on! Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill!

The Moderator and Discussants were in an off-Air break.
They thought the mike was off, Just like in the current Obama case.
It was on, but not live for the public to hear.
Pat Hoyos made an off-the-cuff statement about Kellman’s discourse that is no different to what many people, DLP and BLP, are wont to make in private during or after any Kellman intervention.
No one outside the VOB studios heard the statement.
Pat Hoyos apologized when they went back on the Air. (Did the Station also apologize? as a portion of the blame for the incident is rightfully theirs)

Now tell me how this is so different from the things that are said about David Thompson, Owen Arthur, Mia Mottley, Freundel Stuart, Hammi-La, etc. etc. in relative privacy in rumshops and under trees all the time. Does the balance of the evidence of people’s views of Mr. Kellman’s comments suggest that the purported comment of the moderator contained some element of truthful analysis?

I wonder who David got the information from about the statement and whose interests this exposure serves. I don’t think this is a matter for the righteous indignation that some are showing. I suspect that several of the people who are protesting has said similar things about Mr. Kellman in private (relative of course).

This is one matter that should have been allowed to stay where it was since none of the VOB listeners heard the comment. But then I suppose its good for the blog. But imho, it’s still a storm in a teacup perched on a mountain that was once a molehill.

What’s all the fuss.A poor rakie parliamentarian is told the truth sotto voce and the speaker has ruled.Say sorry and move on man! Hoyos apologized.We all heard that Kelly was out of his depth. Dennis Johnson and Pat Hoyos are both consistent in their moderating.

@ Hants
If D man does talk shite…he duz talk shite…You live bout hay ?….We duz hear him daily…d man wants to revamp Manufacturing in less than eight months (elections)…an industry that dead now 10 yrs or more…tell me what you call this…. toothpaste ?

Carson C. Cadogan… does talk even MORE shite… goodbye.

Here is a man who has never been a success at anything. A man who likes the sound of his own voice, who makes absolutely no sense at all in anything that he says talking foolishness as usual.

Only Barbados Labour Party supporters would consider anything pat has to as interesting.

Pringles; I believe this matter is a trivial one possibly designed to get at Pat Hoyos. I suspect that in radio studios when the mike is off people say all sorts of things that they and the stations would be very embarrassed by, or even be sued for, if what is said in such unguarded moments became public. This matter does not rise to the level of Obama making the kind of gaffe that is now being reported although there are some parallels in the two cases. It is really stretching it to try to tar and feather Pat Hoyos for saying what he did in what was essentially a temporary private discussion that did not make it to be broadcasted to the nation.

If some want to get at Pat Hoyos for his championing of seeming BLP causes and spin his contributions as mediocre and trivial, by all means do so. If some want to decry his alleged poor rakey understanding of finance matters, do so. BU is a good battleground for such matters. But don’t try to get at him for saying something that I suspect many in Barbados would agree with and would themselves have little hesitation in making similar statements in private, or indeed, in public.

So yes. I think that the matter need not have been brought into the public domain. There were only miniscule motes of the remains of a molehill there that could not be seen with the naked eye if they were swept under the carpet. Instead the matter was spun from the beginning into a conflict between a BLP sympathizing patrician and a poor DLP parliamentarian irrespective of whether or not the Moderator’s comment had some validity.

Kellman is a good parliamentarian who has contributed significantly to his party and his country over many years but he does go overboard sometimes in the detailing in his calls to the call-in programmes. I did’nt hear his contribution to last sunday’s programme but, having heard a number of his intercessions previously, It is quite possible that the Moderator was apt in his alleged description of the level of that contribution.

I blame VOB the same way they carried David Ellis relaying an email where a former MP got a hissy fit and won a cool sixty-grand, the Engineers or Producers should know better – when a Guest or Caller is on hold then they are on hold. Hoyos did not know he was on same link as Kellman… Kellman is a man who wants to secede St Lucy and build an airport there, you ever hear him on the platform when he uses sound effects while giving a talk? No wonder Pat said he talkin’ bare…

“Carson C. Cadogan | March 27, 2012 at 10:01 PM |

A man who likes the sound of his own voice, who makes absolutely no sense at all in anything that he says talking foolishness as usual.”

that sounds just like Mr. Kellyman to me.

It is amazing how positions are shaping opinion on this matter.

It really does not matter what Pat Hoyos said in the studio off-mike.

What matters is that he made the statement and had to apologize.

That is information which is worthy and the public can make a judgement.

When it happened on Sunday BU readers can check to see a comment was posted by David [BU] asking what was the apology about, now we know.

Let the public know, no under the carpet.

@Tell me Why

Again your convenient logic is exposed.

Hoyos refused to discuss his article [Skeete’s Bay and Mac Fingall] with callers that day, his comment was to the effect – he wrote it, it is there for all to read and he has nothing to discuss about it.

Contrasts that position with his willingness to discuss his Sunday article.

The issue here is not the subject matter, it is the principle which says if a caller wants to discuss an article he published under his name he should have no problem doing so.

It is a hypocritical position and one open to question by a discerning public.

In the same way checkit-out et are entitled to their opinion, BU is on the side of letting the public judge for itself.

@David (not BU)

No chip at all, if it was Ellis or some other moderator the interest would have been the same. Think about it.

The issue here is a moderator making a disparaging comment in the presence of a BLP representative. It shows terrific insight doesn’t it? While Hoyos is entitled to his view and VOB made a booboo, the public is entitled to make a judgement on the matter. When President Bush.Obama made their slip ups they had to deal with it.