Pat Hoyos
Many have been asking what is it Pat Hoyos said on last Sunday’s Brasstacks which caused Minister Denis Kellman to exact an immediate apology. Here is what BU can confirm.
Last Sunday during the airing of the Brass tacks programme, listeners heard Pat Hoyos [moderator] make an apology to Minister Denis Kellman and many wondered what it was that Mr Hoyos had said that caused him to make the apology. It has now been found out. During a break, and unknown to Hoyos and the others appearing on the programme, one of whom was Mr Clyde Mascoll [Barbados Labour Party chief spokesman on economic matters], that the line was still open to Mr Kellman, Hoyos remarked in relation to the Minister Kellman “I give he five minutes and he talking bare shite “. Kellman insisted on an immediate apology before continuing his contribution. The apology immediately came from Hoyos.
Certainly VOB cannot allow this man Hoyos to continue to disrespect persons who do not share his views .
What is his agenda ?
Eh eh clearly ‘Fractured’ no longer applies to the BLP as the Dems’ apologists are back on the attack against Mia Mottley.
Did she claim she won a fishing agreement through the court? BU be the judge.
http://www.foreign.gov.bb/Userfiles/File/PressreleaseNo6.pdf
Enuff | March 28, 2012 at 5:42 PM |
Did she claim she won a fishing agreement through the court? BU be the judge.
http://www.foreign.gov.bb/Userfiles/File/PressreleaseNo6.pdf
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Enuff,
You had put better put back on your glasses and have read of paragraph 3 & 4 of the docuument you have produced.
Then explain to us why Bajan fishermen were held in Tobago waters within the the last 6 months ?
@ Fractured BLP | March 28, 2012 at 4:39 PM
You and cohorts could talk all the S*** you like…….the word on the streets ain’t change……ONE TERM…..ONE TERM
Dis administration is so FRACTURED ….people can’t take the stress no more and murders on the increase……signs of the break down of law and order all bout….TIME FOR CHANGE.Having nearly completely destroyed the savings of the middle class, you offering $5 million to pay indigents light bills…so pathetic and demeaning.
@Prodigal
You can’t argue with facts. The fact being that the general took campaign money for personnal use. the Perception being that DT Stole money from Clico is a bold faced lie that has yet to be proven
@ ac
the Perception being that DT Stole money from Clico is a bold faced lie
You really think people stupid>>>>PERCEPTION ? $3.3 Millions discovered passing thru DT Associates and discovered in the Judicial report is perception ? Get real do. The word is THIEF.
@ Fractured
I said let BU decide. They were held because they were in Tobago’s waters duhh!!
@ ac
There were also cheques written to David Thompson. One has to wonder about the Crystal Heights property now too!!
AGAIN the word is THIEF .
You guys can called THIEF all you like . Bring the PROOF! Next time somebody write you a check then i suppose you THIEF IT! Unlike the general who was given a check for a SPECIFIC reason and HE POCKET IT> THIEF! he should be behind them iron clad walls he built. with cheque number as his reference . The Proof was there for all to SEE! DT cheque was legitimately written to his law firm for services rendered all you BLP could question is the amount but have no PROOF whatsoever that it was not legitimate unlike the General who had no legitimate reason to deposited the cheque in his bank account a cheque which belong to the PARTY
What CONFIDENTALITYmiller! OSA was the one to confide in his party about the cheque instead of HIDING it in his Bank account and then having to drum up excuses as to why it was there. Like the one i had a few drinks and mistakenly deposit it in the wrong account LOL
In Freundel Stuart’s Manifesto to the DLP when he was contesting the Presidency…this is when the dead king came back to claim his inheritance……at point #8 FS writes …”With all the supposed financial attraction in 1994 and 1999, why is the party so highly indebted after these two elections?”
ac, this proves my point that DT put all the money in FAMILIES FIRST account. I remember the entertainment czar, Cranston Browne waiting outside a media house for DT to come and bring a cheque to pay for ads and he said DT is the only one with the cheque book and money.
I guess we the public do not know now how much DT took out of CLICO but all will be revealed. I hope you ac is around and I would love to hear your comment then.
@ ac
You can’t be serious……you have a spanish dictionary..look up EL Ladron
then take a drive with the pink panther to St.John Church yard…..carry with you one of those radiometers that goes BEEP BEEP BEEP….when in the vicinity of infamous the likes of Capone and Alibaba….. trust me, your ears will go crazy !!
Hey I hear the Mona Lisa move to a GATED COMMUNITY ….I wonder why ?
Thank you
The truth us if we remove the political lens all we know is that the JMs have questioned a 3.3. million payment Thompson Associates. Granted it is a suspicious transaction but until it is explained we can’t say jack squat with any certainty.
@ole onion
The DLP Had Proof and evidence on OAS. and that is what kicking wunna a…ssss! and all the BLP got on DT is couldaaa ! wouldaaaaa! shouldaaa!
Pat Hoyos campaigning night and day for the BLP – Poor fella and he sister in law gine still get black wash by Hammie-La.
All the Plantation Restaurant free food that they giving out in St. Michael South East will not help Pat Hoyos and his “in-Law”.
So Pat Hoyos trying hard – cussing the government literally and figuratively but he only wasting time. He got nuff more cussing to do.Pat Hoyos is a disgrace!
DONT you know that HOYOS should still
BE CUSSING Kellman ???
What is Vic Fernandes and Starcom waiting for? Show Hoyos the door- There are rules for DJ’S and moderators.He invited a man to call the programme and then cussed him and laughed with the man’s opponents.
Pat Hoyos should tossed out of that studio so hard, it would make his head spin.
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Even if Hammie La wins his seat and the DLP loses, Hammie La still isn’t going to remain in the party and he can’t return to the BLP, so he would pull a Sleepy Smith and resign.
Denis Kellman, as dumb as he is, will win his St Lucy seat, thanks to his popularity in Moom Town.In fact Kellamn is the most senior of ALL the DLP M.P’s right now. It would be interesting if only Denis Kellman and Mara Thompson retain their seats for the DLP next elections.
@ David
Sorry I only just saw your question. Of the Medical Faculty I have no idea. Of Law, the Faculty is periodically reviewed. The last one, I believe, was something like three years ago near the end of the MacIntosh years. The Report was generally favourable I’m told, but emphasizing the lack of ‘collegiality’. Now that should interest you in your stance on regionalism….for then you had St Lucia, Trinidad, Granada, Jamaica, UK, Ghana, Canada as well as here. On a personal level, it didn’t work very well, though there was a lot of ability. I hate to think what would be said in any review now. The Dean also reviews the Faculty in one way or another. MacIntosh produced a splendid document outlining proposals for curriculum reform. There were also periodic ‘retreats’, and so a fair measure of introspection. The Dean also has to produce an annual report to Council and present to Academic Board the minutes of Faculty Board meetings. The ‘review’ element in these things, however, is pretty minimal.
One thing is certain and that is that BU has provided unpaid advertising for Sunday’s (1st April) Brasstack. Starcom should thank BU David.
i have never read anything on this blog dribbling from enuff’s fingers that make sense, i dont think anything is between the ears.
Moderators are there to bring a balance. If Kellman talk shite, Pat Hoyos, the mulatto writes soft shite. It is people like him who believes that they could disrespect black barbadians because of their historical past.
@CC
This is one time i support u 100% pat hoyos should not be allowed to moderate on vov, he has no respect for the callers, the ones who make the programme popular.
@scout-
It will be interesting to see who leads the BLP when they lose the next election.It will be all out war between the “ordinary” members.
“The truth us if we remove the political lens all we know is that the JMs have questioned a 3.3. million payment Thompson Associates.”
Questioned? Political lens…ohhhh? I thought it was a FORENSIC lens that states:
“On January 16, 2009, a payment for Bds$3.333 [million] was made to the law firm Thompson & Associates by CIL. We examined the invoice from Thompson & Associates dated December 2008, which described four different legal matters in detail and the fees or retainers for each. The invoice was approved by Mr Leroy Parris as chairman,…the money, which was moved a year after Thompson became Prime Minister, was “actually to the benefit of Mr Leroy Parris . . . and related to partial payment of a ‘gratuity'”.
“…payments were made by CIL on behalf of CHBL to different associates and related companies of Mr Parris, such as David Thompson, Thompson & Associates, Branlee Consulting Services Inc., PFS, as well as payments to Antigua Commercial Bank.
OH LOOKA muh crosses……EXPOSED…(Sen.Verla..looka muh crosses)..
IN PLAIN EYE for all to see…and a direct quote too ya
@ Sen.Verla
But wait… wid all the talk coming from a beautiful broad like you…(hint:Onions.still wanna get marry)…I thought you would have implemented measures..like putting railings round palings and turnip carts…so nuttin more gine fall off fa enuff to tek up and read.?D watless yung boy next to me say this time the driver pelt it off…..murder !lol
@ enuff
So A payment was made to DT THOMPSON and associate. How do you classify such a Statement . Does the word “PAYMENT”Suggest Thievery” or some where in your twisted logic you have insanily come to such a conclusion .
@ ac
Why am I not surprised that you only ‘saw’ payment to DT Thompson & Associates, but not what followed or those to David Thompson?
Well for the past months DT millions was the proverbial straw that broke the camels back according to the BLP . So now for you to undermine my FOCUS ON the word PAYMENT is not surprising!
@ ac | March 29, 2012 at 5:21 PM |
“Does the word “PAYMENT” Suggest Thievery” or some where in your twisted logic you have insanely come to such a conclusion”
As part of “ac’s” therapy in handling the OSA disease we want Owen Seethru Arthur to help this acutely concerned person aka “ac”, to put her mind at ease.
In the capacity of the Right Honourable Leader of the Opposition and Chairman of the PAC you are duty bound to address the following query as far as the efficiency in the collection of taxes is concerned.
If it can be proved by “ac” that the amount of $3.3 million made payable by cheque to DT & Associates was not for the benefit of David Thompson but effectively was a gratuity for the benefit of Leroy Parris, can you ask the Commissioner of Inland Revenue the following questions:
Are gratuity payments to be declared as assessable income and subject to tax?
Was this payment of gratuity reported in the tax returns of the said Leroy Parris?
Did Leroy Parris pay the correct taxes on his totally declared income in the years within which the gratuity was received?
Assuming that Mr. Parris is a ‘high rate’ tax payer the gratuity payment would have been subject to tax at the marginal rate of 35% ($3.3 million x 35% = $1,155,000.00) was the Treasury in receipt of this income tax either by way of PAYE or withholding deduction or by settlement on filing the tax return?
Unless, the Right Honourable Owen S Arthur can provide some answers to the above queries we the voting public would have no other option as to see you in the same ‘light of darkness’ as “ac” sees you. If you can’t protect the interest of taxpayers in such a straightforward matter how can we the voters rely on you to solve the current economic problems, reduce the fiscal deficit and bring about acceptable closure to the CLICO fiasco and root out corruption and financial infelicities.
From a curious taxpayer and voter on behalf of “ac” who suffers from ‘owenitis’ compounded with ‘arthuritis’ .
the question still remains unanswered Did DT steal 3.33mill. from CLICO ?
@enuff
Based on what has been published the JMs did a probe which turned up questionable transactions and have advised that further investigation is warranted:
http://www.caribbeanelections.com/blog/?p=969#more-969
@ ac
Did OSA steal the $75k?
@ David
I guess I am imagining that the JMs also said that the $3.333m was paid for billed legal work but was in fact part gratutity payment or that cheques were also paid to associates including David Thompson.
@ENUFF
If you take something that was not intended fo one self it is called STEALING. This Money was for the fiancing of the PARTY as it was intended. but some how magically ended up in OSApersonnal Bank account.
@enuff
Did you not read what was written, i.e. the transaction is suspicious and merits ‘proper explanation’? How do you think that proper explanation should be had?
as far as i can gather whatever business arrangements DT and Parris had does not prove any illegalities with Leroy giving permission to DT to receive gratuity money on his behalf , The fact is the gratuity money plus payments made to DT and associates would have accounted for the total sum of of 3,3ml which the CLICO firm had negotiated with Parris as gratuity and or addtional bonuses . It was Parris and DT money to do with whatever they dam pleased.the political myth going around that DT stole money f rom Clico is just a myth and one that the BLP is hoping that would garnish enough support for them to win the election. but the public is not dumb as they would want to believe . . Unlike THE general who tried to pull a hat trick out of his magician bag with campaign funds.
@ac
Why don’t you accept that at this stage the matter is open to investigation? Why engage in a circular debate? The invoice reported on by the JMs is suspicious and merits proper investigation to get at the truth. It is premature to be so absolute in our positions.
@ David
So David Thompson got cheques written to him on behalf of the DT & Associates too?
@enuff
Do you accept given the details known that we are drawing conclusions which leaves the door open for other positions to enter the frame? Why can’t we all agree it looks bad on Thompson based on what we know but we have to wait for a final position to know absolutely.
Let’s apply that principle to all. just saying.
@enuff
agreed!
the heart of the matter is the 3.3million or has it shifted to an “invoice”
@ac
@ ac | March 29, 2012 at 5:21 PM |
“Does the word “PAYMENT” Suggest Thievery” or some where in your twisted logic you have insanely come to such a conclusion”
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I see Miller did a HATCHET job on you in the above ..fa real…the man is CLASS…his debating skills exceptional….yet still though demoralized…you continue talking SH*#E (Hoyos) like a demented PARROT…
Cuddear, now I really know how hurt you are.DT really has disappointed a lot..more than he will ever know.(family incld.)
@onions
But still the both of you continue to defend OSA! talking about SH…T i guess there is about enough Sh…t to go around… enjoy!
Stupesssss..you call that a rebut ?
and Liars that you are ONLY the BLP could have the mitigated gall in trying to convince the electorate that the golbal economy does not have a significant impact on the economy.
BTW onions it wasenough comment for you to respond! enjoy!
@ ac
Again take please stock, you are writing incoherently and it does not make sense….try again, as we are at loss to what you are saying.
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and Liars that you are ONLY the BLP could have the mitigated gall in trying to convince the electorate that the golbal economy does not have a significant impact on the economy.
And i incoherently say again that the BLP is spreading LIES and DECEIT stating that the Golbal recession does not have any IMPACT on the Barbados economy and that is a bold faced Lie with an intent of bambozziling the electiorate hell bent by the BLP into winning the election. incoherant or otherwise that is the TRUTH.
@ac
I know what is your problem….you are not taking your Largactic tablets nor your Stalmagines…I spoke to the good Dr.Jules from Black rock and he informs an ambulance is on the way.
OR
You know what they are the Generic versions…right ac ,,,,check
I have been told such will cause dementia.
ac….March 29, 2012 at 6:39 PM |
the question still remains unanswered Did DT steal 3.33mill. from CLICO ?…………………………..
ac, If you submit false invoices for services not rendered, that is THEFT, CORRUPTION, FRAUD or whatever word you want to use.
I like all the BLP contributors talking bare s-i-te also
@DMC
Man..Admit it…you like sh**E period…..nah bones about it
@ ac
And i incoherently say again that the BLP is spreading LIES and DECEIT stating that the Golbal recession does not have any IMPACT on the Barbados economy and that is a bold faced Lie with an intent of bambozziling the electiorate hell bent by the BLP into winning the election.
I guess you mean like how the DLP bamboozled the electorate in 2008 with the late PM remarking what global recession what.
@ Prodigal
Unless proven it remains a legal transaction. NOW PROVE IT and i would agree with everythingt you say!
@ac
Don’t be a nincompoop …………….have you ever heard of a falsified invoice ?When you own the company, anything is possible….the whole thing is questioned as fraudulent by the auditors…so who are YOU.?Hush
i have heard it all but iam i am highly skeptical of who are the messengers . let the courts do their job and render final judgement until then all else is poop!
@ac
i have heard it all but iam i am highly skeptical of who are the messengers . let the courts do their job and render final judgement
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We all know that this CLICO poo as you call it , by design….by dispatch ..by what ever tactics being used, will NOT be resolved until years from now and all those nasty worthless pension robbers will have escaped justice…so don’t play wid Onions baby….Elections will also be called before then, but we DUN KNOW who are the culprits..even though you won’t admit it.BUT you are not important….the PEOPLE KNOW….you think 130,000 policyholder ain’t votes ? They will be the swords in your backsides…..so you continue to play your so called game…THE PEOPLE KNOW…no perception…no need for courts….You all will pay them when the time comes…..an X against you..ALL your FINGERING as you think you are doing will be to yourselves…”let the courts my backside.
You know the people so far have only be given one side of the story and wether one agrees or disagrees until the other side is heard we can only specualte or interject or political biases and called them FACTS. No one knows the whole story, the bearers of the message themselves is setting an agenda to clear them of any misdoing bearing in mind that they don’t want to be blame for the downfall of Clico and the pensioners money. People would do and say anything to protect themselves so until the justice system take full control of this CLICO debacle nothing i hear or see i would belive especially by those whose only interest is to cover there as.sss .
At this stage what you think is not important…..Cheque # ……….written to bearer.. DT Assos…….from CLICO & Co.LTD….signed ^^^^^^^^^^^
For amount…………….$3,300,000.00 Bds
is what ISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
top that……all nonsense talk can’t of people’s agendas by you are just red-herrins……Shame by this evidence
godd nite onions seeyou in court!
@ac
Its not over to the justice system yet. Further investigation by those authorised to do so is necessary first. Rejoice not less what is unearthed gives paid to what inkling is already there.
@ac,
It was Parris and DT money to do with whatever they dam pleased.the political myth going around that DT stole money f rom Clico is just a myth and one that the BLP is hoping that would garnish enough support for them to win the election. but the public is not dumb as they would want to believe . . Unlike THE general who tried to pull a hat trick out of his magician bag with campaign funds……………………
Are you for real? Do you live in the real world? It WAS NOT Parris and the dead king’s money. It was the policyholders monies that they were theifing. The dead king was helping his friend find ways of getting the policyholders monies out of CLICO. In other words they both were committing FRAUD…. that means stealing, white collar crime.
@Prodigal Son
You are correct that someone on behalf of Parris needs to explain how he could have become a multi millionaire working for a company which has a serious asset deficit.
It does not compute.
I think PArris had legal contract with the Top BRASS at CLICO which guaranteed him wages and benefits and likewise DT and associate similar contracts on how the law Firm would be PAID .On the money that Parris was making so far the possibilty is that he had made him several investment that paid him good dividends would not be surprised !
@ac
Would it be any surprise to you to know ..if all of these transfers of commissions to EPR’s…. or what they so called…..were declared as TAXABLE INCOME first and taxes paid to the Commissioner of Inland revenue ? Facts may show different.
Bu- the pat hoyos gaffe pales into insignaficance when compared to the alleged involvement of the former PM into the CLICO imbroglio where thousands of Barbadians are on the verge of losing their savins and investments with the disgraced company. Why have you allowed suchy significant an issue to die a natural death on the forum? isn’t this issue of such importance to the bu family that you ensure that the ponzi issue is ventilated to the fullest?
@balance
Amazing to your last comment.
the matter was muddied david bu when you chose to publish off the air comments made by mr hoyos about mr kellman. That too was a breach of confidentiality. it seems we are fast moving in the sordid direction where nothing can be said in private. the laws of nature seem to have a unique way of redressing the imbalance seemingly reminding us that what goes around comes around. who could think that after holding up mr arthur’s cheque personal or otherwise to ridicule that there would be questions in the public domain of the receipt by him of a cheque for 3.3 million representing a dubious payment to mr parris.
@balance
You are entitled to your unifocal view. Feel free to agree or disagree.
From today’s Nation:
But in an interview with the SATURDAY SUN, Sinckler said Barbadians should not expect a public comment from him or the Prime Minister on the explosive report until the FSC has done its work.
Yet in another matter then under investigation and incomplete, the same Sinckler was quick to speak The more the Dems talk, or don’t for that matter, the clearer their strategy on this CLICO Forensic Audit is becoming.
Advocate 1/19/2009
Report will leave Barbadians in shock
LAUGHTER, amazement, depression and anger will be the reaction of the general public when the forensic audit of the Urban Development Commission (UDC) is revealed. This is according to Minister of Social Care, Constituency Empowerment Urban and Rural Development Chris Sinckler while speaking at Oistins last night, when he stated that the findings of the audit will soon be released. He was at the time outlining the strategies put in place by himself, and former Minister of the UDC Dr. Denis Lowe to remedy this “dysfunctional institution” and to clean up the mess that was found by the previous administration. Describing the state of the UDC, he said that there was corruption “past the skies”, adding that some “prominent” people may have a few questions to answer when the audit is finished.“I have told them very clearly if you find any infelicities that impinge on the criminal laws on Barbados do not send it to me, send it to the Commissioner of Police or the Director of Public Prosecutions,” he said. He told the crowd in attendance of the “phantom” contractors that were awarded contracts and lamented that there are a number of houses that were constructed but are still missing. Minister Sinckler stated, however, that these houses are being found daily.
Why don’t you accept that at this stage the matter is open to investigation? Why engage in a circular debate? The invoice reported on by the JMs is suspicious and merits proper investigation to get at the truth. It is premature to be so absolute in our positions
NOW YOU ARE MUDDYING THE WATER.
“Describing the state of the UDC, he said that there was corruption “past the skies”, adding that some “prominent” people may have a few questions to answer when the audit is finished.“I have told them very clearly if you find any infelicities that impinge on the criminal laws on Barbados do not send it to me, send it to the Commissioner of Police or the Director of Public Prosecutions,” he said. ”
hammie-la beware. you were in charge of that department under the BLP for most of the time it was functioning until your removal. any distasteful report about the affairs of the UDC must of necessity include you. remember the $10.000 paid by you and your nemesis obrien trotman for cutting down the tree.
ac – if i wrote a personal cheque to you , in whose account would you have to deposit it to have it cashed? and if i wrote it to you on behalf of a third party, inwhose account would you have to deposit it to have it cashed? now after examing these two scenarios, at what stage could you be accused of thieving the cheque? now deal with those questions first unemotionally and then we would move to phase 2 but not as long as the PM though. awaiying your response. and like you i am no fan of MR Arthur although i am on record as applauding his management of the economyof barbados during his term in office mistakes notwithstanding.
@ balance
That was over THREE years ago and as usual all hot air, but can’t comment on the CLICO audit. Excuses, excuses, excuses!
@ balance
As I have said before, the audit also refers to cheques written to associates including David Thompson not the company but the individual, which I interpret to be similar to that given to Owen Arthur. However, ac keeps conveniently ignoring those.
@enuff
You are aware that the Urban Matter is not sub judice right?
@balance
We have an Interim report which now has to be placed under the examination of the regulator (FSC) hence the reason why absolute conclusions cannot be made.
It is really a commonsense thing, the transactions being suspicious not the issue at all because all are agreed on that score.
@David replies to balance :7.32 am
You are entitled to your unifocal view. Feel free to agree or disagree.
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Man like you get drafted also by the La Dodgers……not the first time either….it might be contagious don’t you think ?
@Onions
,,,lol…you know some believe the BU household should not share our opinions as well but we will.
Here is an extract taken from Nation today:
Can anyone spot the unprofessionalism in the extract?
full article
@ David
I see it ..but you know …..I ain’t go answer you…lol
@ David
I am also aware that sub judice is being used as an excuse. No one is asking for the government to pass judgement or give an opinion on the matter. What is so wrong about having a press conference (which this government promised to be the norm) to update the public rather than forced into commenting? Just imagine if that document did not fall off a truck.
The BLP meeting at Haggatt Hall was sub judice then lmao.
@enuff
Update the public about what?
To be clear.
Update the public about what?
about reports forensic and otherwise, no-reports and otherwise- hardwood, st joseph hospital, clico.
Interesting to note that contrary to what was promised by VOB management last week, VOB did not repeat the program today.
APRIL Fool!
Pat Hoyos campaigning again with his lies in the Sunday Sun today. “Coincidence” that his article almost word by word reflects what Clyde Mascoll said on the last Sunday sham of a call in programme which Hoyos “moderated”.
The evidence of Hoyos agenda is unfolding week by week with weak columns and onesided partisan vitriol. How lower will the Nation newspaper sink?
I understand Pat Hoyos’s brother finances the BLP and surely the Nation is well aware of this. The only conclusion therefore is the Nation is clearly following a BLP script from the editors working with the operatives at Roebuck Street to foist Hoyos’s crap on the public.
Starcom can only save face and any semblannce of fairness and impartiality by showing this intellectual flyweight the door.
He adds nothing to the debate!
The Nation with its current leadership obviously does not seem to have the will or moral compass to be fair and balanced.
Barbadians are now seeing the Nation newspaper putting party before country. Maybe we should expect that given its current ownership and editors.
still awaiting ac’s response to my simple questions.
@balance
Your comparison is like comparing apples an oranges. As with any organisation there are special bank accounts in place with names and individuals to have access for the purpose of financial transactions or any day to day activities which involved the organisation. as in the case of the cheque one would assume that as leader of the party or organisation OSA would be permitted such a privilege as to have access to such an account with the granted permission to make deposits or withdrawals providing its use is for the sole purpose of the organisation.therfore there was absolutely no reason for him to deposit said cheque which sole purpose was for the Party into his personnel account when he could have deposited it in the BLP account. This in my opinion was unethical and made him look like a THIEF. Your analogy would have been supportive if this was an individual basis.
ac- your comments not reply to my questions are totally speculativ (one would assume that as leader of the party or organisation OSA would be permitted such a privilege as to have e), i asked you specific questions. please answer them.
@ balance.
Like i pointed out to you in my comment that your analogy does not support what hasppened inthe OSA case . on a person to person basis the answers would supportative however there is a flaw in your trying to present the two situations as similiar when indeed they are not and therfore i am inclined to believe that giving you the answer that you want would be incorrect,
@balance you seem willing to condone OAS lack of integrity and unetical practices with the cheque and using a scenario which only lends credit ifthere were no no other alternative method for dealing with such a transaction whith OSA there were. OSA lack of integrity and unethical practices were officially stamped the day he deposited that check in his personal bank account and there is no getting around it
@David
can u tell me if there was a lead blog on the abandonment of the eldery on bu. i have put together something but wont want to have u upload it, if something was done before
Ac- i am willing to withdraw if you can tell me if the cheque was written to OSA or the BLP and if it was wriiten to the BLP and OSA purportedly cashed the cash as intimated by you that he pocketed the money and did not hand it over to the party.
@balance
It doesnt matter to Whom the cheque was written the matter is the purpose of the check and the manner in which it was handled by OSA.i remember that upon OSA returning to the leadership of the BLP he was quick to accuse MIA of inappropriately using funds intended for campaign funding when she was the leader the same measuring stick which he conveniently used for political gain he should have used to measure himself before depositing the cheque. BTW balance your above question could have been”which came first the chicken or the egg?
@ ac
i am willing to withdraw if you can tell me if the cheque was written to OSA or the BLP and if it was wriiten to the BLP and OSA purportedly cashed the cash as intimated by you that he pocketed the money and did not hand it over to the party.
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Who cash the $3.3 million David Thompson …CLICO sent cheque ?
Or was it TOO BIG……and had to be handled by transfer to LP.
While ya at it ………..tell we how many MORE went the thru the DT Assoc.shell..siphoning out the POOR PENSIONERS money…..I think you need go read this Sunday Sun newspaper especially that of 76 year old Mrs.Mayhew, for some empathy and stop playing politics with OLD PEOPLES lives… again SHAME on you and ALL like you
@ David : 31 March , 2012 at 8.53 A M
“Can anyone spot the unprofessionalism in the extract ”
It might really be a case of spotting the PROFESSIONALISM among the unprofessionalism in the extract .
You will recall RPB’s reference in one of his songs to ” the road in the potholes ” ? LOL . We may have a parallel here . Peace my brother .
I am getting a rare opportunity to listen to the Brass tacks propramme being moderated today by Pat Hoyos. It was a matter of great interest that Mr Hoyos was only too willing to engage a caller who was expressing the same political views as he expressed in his column on Sunday last but gave very short shrift to one caller who sought to challenge some of the said views ; in fact he said that he was unprepared to get into any political debate with the caller . I found it very difficult to reconcile that approach by this moderator . Certainly , as a moderator who poses as being party-neutral he has to be more evenhanded and less obviously partisan . I thought that VOB had moved away from employing that kind of moderator .
Don’t worry Observer
Old Onions may soon get a call up pick to a spot…and rid this travesty that goings on denn.Hope to hear you calling in then Ok, buddy an Ole friend.
Condolences to Coleridge Pilgrim’s family from BU.
@ old onion bags.
I prefer not to call and be caught up in the political clap-trap. I join you you in sending condolences to the said family ; Coleridge Pilgrim was a fine man. Peace my brother .
Man Observer….where is your sense of humor ..that last submission was meant to be a joke.
Pat hoyos article in the Nation is arepeat of his yesterday poop on VOB if he knows so much about economics why wouldn.t he throw his hat into the political ring intead of hiding behind a microphone and talking crap to the seven or eight BLP listeners he enterains with his sh….t
When the DLP Govt go get its priorities right ? Almond more important than Four Seasons…a ghost town of rubble..a bird in hand , and not concrete in bush…lol…don’t pick the wrong one please…
It is a known fact that the editors at the Nation have consistently tried to attack this government while promoting the current opposition.Just read every article from Nation editor Sanka Price and it is clear for all to see.
Check this case:
The opposition leader spoke to some of the BLP faithful at a meeting at Roebuck Street on Sunday, April1, 2012.
Monday, April 2 – Page 3 of the Nation; Tuesday, April 3- page 3 of the Nation,Wednesday, April 4 – the politics section of the Nation ,Thursday, April 5 – Quotations from the speech repeated on page 11,
One little meeting with no earthshattering news or new revelations by the BLP leader gets FOUR CONSISTENT DAYS OF COVERAGE !
It is becoming clear to all that the BLP leader has a direct connection to the Nation newsroom and editorial.How else can one explain giving 4 days of coverage to one meeting at Party Headquarters where only one other MP was present and nothing new revealed.
You really have to read the Nation now trying to separate legitimate news from BLP PR.
Just to set the record straight (before the firing squad gets to work), my company’s VAT is fully paid up, and second, I am not being sued by anyone, anywhere, for anything. Neither is my company.
As for Mr. Kellman, I do think he has made a good contribution to the public debate over the years. When he called in at 24 minutes past twelve that Sunday, I gave him up to newstime to speak uninterrupted because the programme was unable to get a representative of the DLP to come into the studio that day.But as a moderator, I was not satisfied with the level of his contribution, perhaps because I unfairly expected him to try to represent the party as a whole when he had called up on his own to make whatever points he wanted to.
And not that it matters much now, but I did not say the expletive quoted, as I never use the term for anything, but I probably said something like ‘nonsense’.
I would agree with all of you that I have a lot to learn about broadcasting and that it is probably too late now, but I try to do my best in the hot seat of the moderator’s job when asked. When I go on air, whatever broadcasting/moderating/debating skills or lack thereof I have come through for all to see. It is a price I pay for trying to make my contribution to the public debate if asked to do so. And judging from the terrible things some of you have said about me (my fellow Barbadians, don’t be so cruel) it seems like it is a heavy price indeed!
@ Broad St journal
Man boss what you write this above shite for.?? You is a man wid money you dont want no p#ssy $ 50 a hour to listen to DLP yard birds…..Man If the man duz talk shite he duz talk shite 90 % of Barbados would agree wid Onions…. doa they won’t all admit.Kellman means well .But he duz B jumpimg IN on the wrong tings man.Ask Kellman why 90 % of we had no fish yesterday,,,,..YES YES is he fault when all boil down… Almighty Kellman why the fisher folks had to got home with no money in dem pockets?…YES YES is your fault !…The man get paid for a job incomplete and he going down with that legacy… D NO FISH MAN…mark Onions words. About Kellmanomic…cheezon…it boggles..D man duz come up wid some tings….check dis one..Four Season debate..Kelli holla….if we invest the $ 40 Mil in the FS project we will get back it in NIS contributions paid alone to the workers…Oh loss. Kelli boy I think you better write a book call it “Of Balls and Bullocks”…Chapter 1 ..How to holla hard when ya aint know what ya talkin bout.Chapter 2 How to talk shite and sound good talkin. Chapter 3. What D Fu#ck wanna want so much fish for anyway. Chapter 4.I don’t give two iotas bout who get fish …D Fisherman PuB is mine and i duz get fish .Chapter 5. When D king did alive..he did like me so F#ck all a wanna.I is king now.Chapter 5b. Ain’t Retribution a Bitch He HE.Chapter 6. So wait what wanna expect I had to hush my mout for so long..now is my time.Chapter 7. If George Bush could talk Sh#te so can I but longer.Chapter 8 How to Talk Sh#te and have fun doing it.Chapter 9. Chapter 10. The Gospel According to Kellman : I plan to open a Tapilia Farm is St.Lucy..Ya jokers ! Chapter 11.I plan to buy Almond Village..wanna dun know.Chapter 12 THE END neareth for the ressa DEM jokers..but I shall keep My seaT. who is d jokers now ?
Pat Hoyos should realise that is job as moderator is just that and not one of being a political yard flow for one side or the other which leaves a glaring hole of suspicion in the minds of the listener a hole which Pat has worsened by his insulting mouthings of kellman in the presence of the panel. He ought to be ashamed of himself no amount of “whitewashing” is going to correct that the evedience is out ande the jury has already deliberate on knowing what is Pat Hoyos AGENDA. In my opinion he should recuse himself as a moderate from future political debate as he is unable to restraint himself from taking a fair and unbiased opinion on political matter
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You all is bare boo ..doa. When Maurie Holder did have a microphone leak…nah body din blowin ting up like K2…But who cares….its a dun deal a spade blessed a spade,,,,,the ole sayin D trute duz come out..Oh Loss..
and ya know what MORE Blunders gine happen…remember CBC ..OOh Ahh OOh Ahh.. ah cumiin,,,ya know why ?…ANYTHING GOES BOUT tis place NOWADAYS…. and the workers behind these instrument gettin like eva body else and FALLING SLEEP PUN THE JOBS…
So wait wha wanna ting gine happen when I start MODERATING….wanna dun know Onions ain’t EZ…
Cheezon breds D audacity of some peoples
Wait!! ole oninons. Kellie book available on amazon?