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Submitted by Cedriann Martin, Regional Communications Officer, UNAIDS, Caribbean Regional Support Team

PORT OF SPAIN, 7 March 2012—In excess of 2400 men living in the Caribbean have participated in an on-going study about men who have sex with men (MSM). More than 100 of them are from Barbados.

Available on www.carimis.org, the Caribbean Men’s Internet Survey (CARIMIS) is the first attempt to gather information through the internet about the lives of MSM in the region, including those who do not self-identify as gay or bisexual. Through this anonymous exercise, respondents can safely share information about their sexual behaviour as well as insight into their relative degrees of access to HIV prevention, testing, treatment and care services.

Director of the Joint United Nations Programme on HIV/AIDS (UNAIDS) Caribbean Regional Support Team, Dr. Ernest Massiah, explained that the exercise would help countries in the region to respond more meaningfully to the healthcare and social needs of this heterogeneous group.

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  1. @ CH and David

    Well, sorry to say but I……..


  2. @ Boy Blue, said “Even if they are forgiven for their evils that they commit in this life, according to Deut 5:9 they still must answer for the sins of their forgears going back to 3 or 4 generations ago.”

    BB, what IS the context, historically of Deut 5: 8,9? And to whom was God speaking?

    “The soul that SINNETH, IT SHALL DIE. The son shall not
    bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the
    iniquity of the son: The righteousness of the righteous shall
    be upon him, and the WICKEDNESS of the WICKED shall be
    upon HIM. (Ezek. 18:20)”

    Likewise, what is the context of the above verse from Ezek 18:20? There is NO controdiction whatsoever, this is WHY one must learn PROPER, sound Biblcal Hermeneutics, Contextual Analysis, and Linguistic Exegesis, in order to ‘Rightly Divide’ INTERPRET, and APPLY God’s Word, without which ALL kinds of ERRONEOUS, false foolishness will ensue, as is rampant eveywhere we turn, and IS* so blatantly seen right here on BU, by many who have NOT A CLUE, what they are seeking to expound on in gross ignorance, I.e., lacking knowledge and understanding on the subject matter, of the Bible, God’s Word!


  3. “But if ANYONE IS* IGNORANT* let him be IGNORANT.” ( 1 Cor. 14: 38).

    So it be!


  4. WHY is it that ZOE only shows up when there is a discussion on Homosexulaity ?


  5. @ Zoe

    Sorry, but I find no evidence of “Biblical hermeneutics, contextual analysis and linguistic exegesis” in anything you’ve written. Oh yes, one thing – you think the injunction against fornication refers to homosexual conduct – which is totally potty. What I do find is a series of Biblical quotes, which you label without explanation “God’s word”, and which you lump together from all over the place and spout like a parrot, to prove you are going to heaven. For myself, I see more value in hugging a tree.


  6. @ robert ross

    In my post I merely gave a brief , simple explanation of what I beleive a Christian life is or should be. I am fully intellectually capable of reading and understanding most things. My interpretations of serious matters are in no way determined by, deceided on because of, or influenced to any large degree by ill informed , myopic opponents. However,we can learn something from everyone, which can be very valid for the set of prevailing circumstances.

    If you fail to see how any passage I referred to ‘ helps’ me, then you need to address your own shortcomings.

    Irreverence or indeed blasphemy jumps out immediately on reading your post. Also, do you seriously equate lawyers with God and his laws? I think Zoe answers your queries in a way that I certainly am not qualified to even attempt. Since you seem to be so fascinated with lawyers, ask them about willful ignorance, or Newtonian knowledge, and then apply that in a spiritual context.

    ‘ For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin. For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I. If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good. Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin. Rom. 7:14-25.

    I need not expand on this , or on why the apostle Paul used the first person, I. Just look at the context.

    People are active organisms, with evolved tendencies toward growing, mastering ambient challenges, and integrating new experiences into a coherent sense of self. These natural developmental tendencies do not, however, operate automatically, but instead require ongoing social AND SPIRITUAL nutriments and supports. That is, the social context can either support or thwart the natural tendencies toward active engagement and psychological and spiritual growth, or it can catalyze lack of integration, defense, and fulfillment of need-substitutes.

    Continue to endeavour to grow my friend , and a piece of advice, you cannot just pick and choose the part of the scriptures that are pleasing to you , and discard and curse or condemn the rest.
    Oh , and did your parents not PUNISH or REWARD you as you were growing up?


  7. @ robert ross,You are a ‘Novis’ and from all indication of your maligning the Scriptures, God’s Word, not a Christian.

    Hear God’s Word as it addresses your ‘Ilk’.

    FALSE INTERPRETERS, which the Scriptures refer to as ‘another’ group of interpreters who are clearly revealed as FALSE..

    in II Corinthians 4:2, Paul refers to those who are guilty of “handling the Word of God DECEITFULLY:” (Amplified -” adulterate or handle DISHONESTLY the Word of God”).

    In Ephsians 4:14, He speaks of those who, in relation to DOCTRINE* use, “slight of men and CUNING CRAFTINESS, whereby they lie in wait to DECEIVE” (Amplified – “the CUNNING and cleverness of unscrupulous men, gamblers engaged in every shifting form of trickery IN* inventing ERRORS to MISLEAD” ).

    In II Peter 3:16, He also refers to these men as those who are UNLEARNED and UNSTABLE and WREST (torture on a rack) the Scriptures unto their own DESTRUCTION ( Amplified – “TWIST and MISCONSTRUE to their own UTTER destruction, just as they DISTORT and MISINTERPRET the rest of the Scriptures” ).

    These references point out that there are those, like YOU Ross, who wilfully and deliberately interpret the Scriptures FALSELY, thus damning their own souls and the souls, and the souls of those who listen and follow them. These men, like you Ross, are “ever learning and NEVER ABLE to come to the knowledge of THE TRUTH” ( II Tim. 3:7).

    So it be Ross!

  8. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Zoe | March 12, 2012 at 10:41 PM |
    “But if ANYONE IS* IGNORANT* let him be IGNORANT.” ( 1 Cor. 14: 38).
    So it be! ”

    What a most apt soliloquy! You could not want a better teacher than your self where ignorance is concerned.

    We are still waiting to hear from you if all people of non-fundamentalist Christian faith (for example, most Indians, Chinese, Japanese, Aborigines, Native Americans. Amerindians, pygmies and even Roman Catholics) will be going Hell.

    What about the polar bear, walrus, sloth, gorilla, sabretooth, monitor lizard (Komodo dragon), the evil serpent from the Garden of Eden? You still have not yet told us if they were part of the ‘circus’ of animals in the ark built by Noah who cursed one of his sons whose children married their cousins and so on.


  9. @ Ph.D

    I took you for someone with a sliver of a brain and wrote to you reflectively as a consequence. I was mistaken. As they say, “the finer points elude you”…and that is being very kind. Oh dear, fella, start thinking for yourself and not JUST copying. I didn’t say it before, in this way at least though it was my No 1, your point about practising gayness – putting my body where my mouth is – was so utterly dumb, quite incredibly stupid, and yet you managed to wrap it up in the language of the sage and unlimited condescension. But that, from what I’ve read of you, is your style. It’s a mask, sadly, for your own bigoted, narrow, and not very intelligent mindset. I think Miller warned me. But if I go on I fear I’ll end up saying with BB that it’s all been a western plot to enslave you – and so now I’ll go and hug another tree. I have a very great reverence for them though of course I can’t touch their fruit for five years after planting and when I do I can’t ask a menstruating woman to help me. By the way, I just noticed smoke at the top of Hillaby….is God on the go again? Better ask Zoe.

    NEITHER YOU NOR THE OTHER HAVE ANSWERED A SINGLE QUESTION THAT HAS BEEN PUT TO YOU. SO I WILL ASK YOU AGAIN:

    1. WHAT DO YOU UNDERSTAND BY ‘GOD’S WORD’?

    2. HOW DO YOU KNOW YOU ARE DEALING WITH THE ‘REAL’ THING?

    3. DO YOU ACCEPT THAT IF A MAN LIES WITH A MAN AS WITH A WOMAN HE SHALL BE PUT TO DEATH?

    @Zoe

    Dont worry luv…you’ll get there.


  10. @ robert ross

    The greatest scientist who ever lived once said, ‘ Great thinkers have always encountered opposition from mediocre minds’. Albert Einstein.

    Since I did not write the book of Romans, yes I copied Rom 7:14-25 for the purposes of the discussion. Knowledge is also knowing where to find relevant information and how to use it in a coherent way.

    Again you are exposed when trying to think. You thought I” had a sliver a brain”. No, it is a complete ,fully functioning, 151 IQ brain.
    .
    Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. Ponder that. You claimed to be involved in education, My goodness, hug another one my friend, the ambulance is on the way.

    Dismissed.


  11. LOL…I’ve only ever heard the word ‘dismissed’ used once in that way…by a psychotic Ph.D from an eastern parish. Couldn’t be you of course. You’re too busy being Einstein. Tell me: where do you put all that intelligence? All that “coherence”? Does it make it difficult to zip up your fly? Of course, I do understand why you still haven’t answered the questions put to you. Go on – tell. It IS brain fag isn’t it? As for tree hugging: well, I suppose the Ph.D might be in tree felling so you couldn’t possibly understand the idea of loving creation. Or maybe you’re the sort who strangles dogs. There’s a post on that somewhere. Meanwhile there’s still smoke on Hillaby….don’t you think in your role as Aaron you might just go look?

  12. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ robert ross | March 13, 2012 at 3:20 PM |

    You are on a futile mission of trying to get either PhD or Zoe to see reason and express rational thought. Their Judeo-Christian fundamentalist indoctrination has blinded them irreparably. Not even a Damascene experience can bring the LIGHT to their eyes to see that some of the tales they claim to believe in are no more than stories told by rabbis and priests to frighten simple uneducated people into following their social rules and regulations.
    Can’t you see how they purposely evade the question about the polar bear and serpent being in the Ark?
    See them just as you see the fundamentalist Muslims who would wipe out tens of people including their own family in order to go to heaven and have the joy and pleasure of deflowering 7 or how many virgins; with the main man the looking on.


  13. Is The Bible God’s Word?

    by David J. Stewart

    “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:” —2nd Timothy 3:16

    Evidence That the Bible is God’s Word:

    Because it claims to be (as read in our Scripture above).

    Because It hits the nail right on the head concerning the sinfulness of mankind. 2nd Timothy 3:1-7 reads, “This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.”

    Mankind is evil through and through. The humanists say man can improve. The New Age gang says that we can become gods. Evolutionists claim we all came from apes (with NO proof whatsoever). The Mormons say we can become gods. Do you think the American Psychiatric Association is going to tell you that you’re a sinner on your way to Hell if you die in your sins? No! This is not just religion friend, this is YOUR LIFE!!! What Book is there on this earth that gives you the plain truth about mankind and life? THE WORD OF GOD is the only answer! The Bible plainly teaches that man is prone to destruction because man has a sin-nature (Romans 3:10,23;5:12;7:21).

    Archaeology is in agreement with the Word of God. Not one spadefull of dirt has ever been uncovered to disprove the Word of God. In fact, many Archaeological expeditions have provided substantial evidence in support of Biblical claims. We don’t need Archeology to prove the Bible, the Bible is evidence enough by itself. Yet, here are more proofs if you need them. The Bible Itself is all the evidence I need.

    The Bible is scientifically accurate. Isaiah 40:22 declares that the earth is round. Leviticus 17:11 declares that the life is in the blood. For centuries doctors foolishly drained the blood out of their patients resulting in certain death. The Bible also mentions astronomy, Job 9:9 mentions Arcturus, Orion, and Pleiades. Proverb 17:22 teaches that good health is directly linked to being happy. Psychiatrists offices are overflowing today with the stressed out people. Happiness can only come from being saved and living for the Truth of God’s Word.

    The Bible was miraculously written. The Bible was written over a 1,500 year period by 40 different men as God’s Holy Spirit moved through them. There is NO earthly way possible that so many men (most of whom never met each other), could have written so many different books in different styles that all perfectly merge into one meaningful Book, but with God all things are possible!!!

    The world’s hatred for the Word of God. John 3:20 reads, “For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.” This is why the unsaved world hates Jesus Christ and His Word so intensely, because They expose sin! NO book on this planet is hated anywhere near as much as the Bible. Most people hate the Truth. Speaking the Truth is a fast way to make enemies, “Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?.” The world hated Jesus without a cause because He spoke the Truth (John 15:25).

    The world’s hatred for Christians. Jesus said, “I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world” -John 17:14. I’ve been despised and hated my whole life because of my Christian testimony. I know what it’s like to be ostracized by others, to be lied about, to be called a hypocrite, to be laughed at and ridiculed, to be the black sheep of the family. But I know God will make everything right in Heaven.

    Jesus told us that we’d be hated. It’s really Jesus and the Bible that they hate, not us. I’m not going to feel bad about something that God said would happen. I don’t like to be hated, but I love the Truth and want to please God by proclaiming It far and wide.

    The attack from false religions. The book of Koran is a jumbled mess containing no prophecy at all. The Koran attacks Christians, Jews, and the doctrines of the Bible. The Jehovah Witnesses (JW’s) claim that Michael the archangel became Jesus. They deny Christ’s deity. The Mormons deny Christ’s deity. The Catholics pervert the Bible by teaching the necessity of the sacraments for salvation, etc.

    Wiccan witches reject the Word of God as fables. New Agers teach that there are millions of ways to God, just follow the light; but the Word of God proclaims that there is ONLY one way to Heaven and that’s through Jesus Christ! Every false religion in one way or another twists and corrupts the Word of God. The attack is against the Word of God!!!

    The woeful condition of the world. The Bible clearly teaches that Satan is the god of this world (2nd Corinthians 4:4). John 10:10 plainly declares that the Devil only comes to kill, steal, and destroy. It’s obvious that there are evil forces at work beyond human suffering and war. Most people believe in God and Satan, so why is it so hard to accept the idea that God would want to communicate with His creation (humanity)?

    It doesn’t surprise me that spoiled Americans would deny the existence of God and Satan, but ask anyone in a third world nation if they believe. Pride blinds men’s eyes. 1st John 5:19 declares that the whole world lieth in wickedness.

    The existence of Satanists and occult groups. The fact that all these Satanic groups, like the Church of Satan are proof of Satan. Wicca witches deny the existence of Satan, but Biblically they are of Satan. Just because they deny the Devil doesn’t mean he doesn’t exist. Hitler was known to levitate above the floor. He was infatuated with the occult. America is plagued with occult groups such as Bohemian Grove, Skull and Bones, Freemasonry, and many more. Freemasonry commonly displays an upside down pentagram representing the Devil.

    They worship the great architect, Baphomet (Satan). Just look online at some of the witchcraft websites speaking about spells, charms, astral projection, astrology, etc. The Bible clearly forbids such activities (Deuteronomy 18:10; 1st Samuel 15:23; Isaiah 47:13, Ephesians 5:11).

    The Holy Spirit in my heart. Romans 8:9 reads, “But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” And Romans 8:16, “The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:” What a wonderful Truth, God’s Holy Spirit lives within the body of every believer. I know that the Bible is God’s Word because the Holy Spirit within my body tells me so. It’s not something I can describe. All I can say is that when I read the Word of God, it all makes perfect sense to me. I thank God for His Precious Word!

    All of the modern corrupt Bibles. The fact that Satan is trying to eradicate the Truth by corrupting It’s contents speaks volumes. The fact that every modern Bible diminishes the deity of Christ, the blood atonement, the Godhead, and many other doctrines as compared to the King James Bible is evidence that the Bible is indeed God’s Word. Sadly, even many believers have bought into the Devil’s lie of swapping their trustworthy King James Bible for a perversion like the New International Version which completely removes the words “Godhead,” “sodomites,” and even “begotten” in John 3:16. It is so obvious that Satan is relentlessly attacking God’s Word.

    Man wouldn’t have written the bible. Man couldn’t have written the Bible if he wanted to, and wouldn’t if he could have. Why would men write a book condemning themselves? Not one book throughout history even comes near to the Bible’s description of mankind. Jeremiah 17:9 reads, “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” What man could write such a thing?

    The lie of evolution. The fact that evolution is taught as if it were a fact all across the world is evidence of man’s unwillingness to learn the Truth. Evolution has no scientific basis, it cannot be tested or studied. Evolution is NOT science, but a mere theory of atheist conjectures. If the Bible is not true, then why is mankind desperately trying to hide his ignorance concerning creation. There is NO answer which makes sense except God. Please read Is There a God?. Evolution is proof of one thing, that man is afraid of the Truth.

    Fulfilled Bible Prophecy. The Word of God is filled with much prophecy. Here is a page of many Fulfilled Bible Prophecies. It would be astronomically impossible for any one man to have fulfilled all of the prophecies which Christ fulfilled.

    Some Things Were Not Meant to be Understood

    A man recently sent me a letter asking how I knew the Bible was God’s Word. He said that the Bible contained many contradictions that confused him. A simple web search under “Alleged Bible Discrepancies” will provide hundreds of links to answer any skeptics questions. Google alone provided 701 links. Several excellent books have been written on this issue which will also show up in any web search under “Alleged Bible Discrepancies.”

    The problem is that a lot of people want to argue, they’re belligerent. They DON’T want to learn the Truth, they just want to argue what they believe. I don’t argue with people, I generally just send them Bible verses. Let them argue with God.

    The gentleman who wrote me also asked how Noah was able to provide Eucalyptus plants for the Koala’s on the ark. He also wanted to know why the tower of Babel was an issue when planes today fly much higher than the tower of Babel could have been built. Then he asked where Cain got his wife. I sent him the following Scripture…

    “But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain. A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.” -Titus 3:9-11

    The word “subverted” simply means that he is destroyed of himself. He is corrupted to the point where he is unreasonable. You can’t logic with him because he has become his own worst enemy. The Word of God directs us NOT to answer questions which have no answer…

    “But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.” -2nd Timothy 2:23

    I don’t try to answer questions that have no obvious answer. The Apostle Paul clearly said that God has only provided us with a limited understanding, “For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known” -1st Corinthians 13:12. Too many believers try to answer questions which do not need to be answered. I’m not going to try to figure out where Cain’s wife came from.

    Does it matter? To the godless reprobate that is already biased against God’s Word, you’ve got to prove everything to him or else he claims he won’t believe. The truth of the matter is that he wouldn’t believe anyway even if you could prove it to him. Abraham told the rich man in Hell concerning his brothers still living, “If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead” -Luke 16:31.

    What is Proof?

    I get all sorts of letters from people wanting “proof” that the Bible is God’s Word. What is “proof.” Is it not relevant? Proof is based upon evidence. The evidence that I might consider as “proof” of something may not be enough evidence for you. You can present the same evidence to 10 different people and they may not all except it as proof. Hence, some people believed that the earth was round hundreds of years ago simply because Isaiah 40:22 said that it was (or because they saw that the moon was round).

    Yet, there were also plenty of skeptics back then who adamantly proclaimed that they’d go to their graves believing that the earth was flat. Everyone who believed the earth was flat was wrong, but they were sincerely wrong. Likewise, many people today are sincerely wrong about the Word of God. To me, the Word of God itself is proof enough that It is the eternal, inspired, infallible, incorruptible, preserved Word of God. If it is not enough proof for you, then your fate is in your own hands.

    I receive so many letters from people who want to argue over foolishness. They don’t really want to find the Truth of God’s Word. Arguing, like gossip, is a cheap form of entertainment for some people. The Apostle Paul in this Scriptures we just read advises us to “reject” belligerent people who just want to argue foolishness. By “Reject” Paul simply means that we shouldn’t waste our time trying to convince someone who already has formed a biased opinion. I receive many wonderful letters from people who need my help, and I always do my best to help them.

    It’s not that we should give up on anyone, but there are so many people who haven’t heard the gospel that need our help. Let us be productive for God and not allow Satan’s critics to preoccupy our precious time which can be spent helping those who want to be helped. Romans 10:15 reads, “…How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!” Notice that the Bible doesn’t say it is beautiful to argue with people. What is beautiful is the good news of Jesus Christ. I have written an article concerning this which I hope you will read titled, The Simple Gospel.

    We must all read the Bible for our self and then personally decide whether or not we believe It is God’s Word. There is NO magic bullet. Either you believe the Bible is God’s Word or you don’t! I believe 100%!

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    The Heart of the Matter…

    To him who believeth, no explanation is necessary; to him that believeth not, no explanation is possible.


  14. Asserting in our day that the Holy Bible is the Word of God

    There is a parallel here with the Incarnation.
    Christ is God in the flesh. The Bible is the Word of God given through the pens of men. It too is divine and human. Just as in the Person of Christ the divine and human natures are distinct but not separate (so that the human blood of Jesus has the divine power to cleanse from sin, 1 Jn. 1:7), so the human words of the Bible are God’s words and therefore His truth. The finite is capable of the infinite!

    This point stands out as crucial because Barth (and his antecedents) assumed “that there is an antithesis between divinity and humanity, the infinite and the finite.”16 With this premise, one easily concludes that since the Bible is a human book, it should be subject to criticism. But the Bible is God’s Word, and so beyond criticism. “Let God be true though every man be false” (Rom. 3:4). Charging Scripture with error is as futile as sifting through the Gospels trying to catch Jesus in some sin. We know He is the sinless Son of God on the basis of clear texts which teach this doctrine; we know Scripture is God’s Word on the basis of similarly clear passages.17

    The Bible is clear on this point.
    After spending so much time on the question whether the Bible can be the Word of God, we must add that no such question exists in Scripture itself. The Bible depicts human words as able to bear God’s truth: If we “continue” in Jesus’ words, He promised that we will “know the truth” (Jn 8:31 – 32; see 2 Tim. 1:13 and 3:7). Scripture says God reveals not only Himself, but also information about Himself: Paul wrote that his Gospel “came through a revelation of Jesus Christ” (Gal. 1:12). And many passages attest that God has spoken the words of Scripture. In addition to the usually-cited texts, notice how OT quotations are introduced in the NT. Jesus said David was “inspired by the Spirit” (Mt. 22:43). In Acts 1, Peter told his brethren, “the Scripture had to be fulfilled, which the Holy Spirit spoke beforehand by the mouth of David” (v. 16). Heb. 3:7 introduced a psalm quote with the words, “as the Holy Spirit says.” In short, Scripture has no problem with the Bible as the Word of God; only human reason does.

    Human reason cannot enhance Scriptural authority, but it can head off some attacks on the Bible as the Word of God.
    We dare not set forth extra-Biblical rationalizations of what God’s Word must be like, then expect the Bible to live up to them. For instance, we should not speculate that God had to commit His Word to writing (He didn’t), or that God’s Word can never conflict with science as we know it (science could be wrong), or that the Word must enable us to meet some abstract standard of certainty (Christian certainty is a certainty of faith which rests content with God’s truth as He gives it), or that one must be a Christian before he will recognize that the Bible is God’s Word (this makes it appear that individual salvation is but a means to solving a basic problem of ignorance. The demons believe, i.e., know, and shudder!).

    We may use God-given reason to counter destructive notions, though. For example, sober realism might expose Kant’s theory of knowledge for what it is – an attempt to base objectivity on subjectivity.18 In the Biblical account, God created an orderly world. Its order is independent of the human faculty of thought. We should capitalize on the apologetic value of reason to clear away potential objections to Scripture.

    Scripture has power.
    In most cases, of course, people will not care much about Biblical authority until they become Christians. So we must not forget that the Word is dynamic: “He (God) sent forth His Word, and healed them, and delivered them from destruction” (Ps. 107:20). The Word is not just God having spoken at some time in the, past, but God still speaking and working.

    God gave us His Word chiefly to make us “wise unto salvation” (2 Tim. 3:15). Paul noted that “whatever was written in former days was written for our learning, that by steadfastness and by the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope” (Rom. 15:4). Jesus affirmed that His gracious words “are Spirit and life” (Jn. 6:63); they convey the Holy Spirit and life. Anyone hankering for an encounter with God need not resort to Barth’s near-mysticism. He can have it via the Bible’s message of Law and Gospel. Not only do God’s promises depict treasures Christ won on the cross; not only do they excite faith in those blessings and treasures as remote objects; they actually impart forgiveness, life, and salvation to us. Jesus made His disciples clean by the Word (Jn. 15:3). Peter said we are born anew by the living Word (1 Pet. 1:23). James taught that the Word is able to save (Jas. 1:21). This Word has power as God’s Word, a precious, wonderful gift that goes on giving and giving and giving. It is not mere communication, but transportation. It brings us a gracious God.19 This is the beauty of having the Word from God as we do; it is what the world and the devil always seek to take away from us.

    Conclusion

    In a Bible class an individual criticized an aspect of the Church Growth movement on the basis of Scripture. One of the other people present objected. He did not fault the interpretation or application. Rather, he said, “That’s a theological analysis. We’re talking here about practical considerations.” Wow! How sobering! Even as we guard against the “Barths” of this world and age, asserting that the Bible is the Word of God, we still can lose the significance of this fact over “practical considerations.”

    All people always ought to hear and obey what God, their Creator and Ruler, says. The matter does not end here, though. Sin rears its ugly head. Sinners want no part of God’s Word, no matter how much they already know about it. Our flesh plays up what we think on the basis of what we see, from the intellectual to the “practical,” in an effort to drown Him out. But the Lord will not be silenced. In His boundless love, the Savior refuses to keep His hard-won victory to Himself. He speaks His Word with authority, not as men speak. This authority is not only commanding for our obedience but compelling for our trust. The Holy Spirit accompanies the Christ-centered Word into human hearts, making the unwilling willing. God creates faith through His Word. And faith draws its life from the Word. That faith knows that God’s Word is all that matters, and that His Word to us is “yes” in Jesus Christ. So regardless of the difficulties confronting that faith – be they sophisticated sneers, commnonsense considerations, or the dread of death – it resolutely ignores sight and clings to the authoritative Word of a faithful God. It holds to Scripture.

    ——————————————————————————–


  15. @Zoe

    You continue to ignore requests to show blog etiquette by not posting links to long comments.

    Your consideration is requested for the final time.

    Some people read the blogs with handheld devices and by posting these long comments you succeed in choking the bandwidth for such devices,

    BU truly hates to intervene but if you force it so it shall be.


  16. I am sure that the research findings could assist regional governments in evidence based programming, that is developing strategies to reduce the vulberabilities of the msm population.

    I think readers need to know homo are those who have sex with males only, whereas msm are those who have sex with men and women. These two groups are very very vunerable and that is why the world over is doing such research. It it is a publich health phenomenon which we must understand.

    Instead of we passing judgement on the those who engage in the activity, we should be trying to find how the findings could better protect society.There is enough documented evidence that msm are driving the hiv epidemic. These men are having sex with their male buddies and also with their wives or girldfriends. Thats a dilema.

    On another note, i realized the condemnation of homosexuality, but lesbinism. I have a sister who contnues to confide in me that she has been approached by a number of women from all strata of society to get involved in that activity, even though she finds the though repulsive she does not condemn then. The reason why they confide in she is an excellent listener, Most of the women are married.


  17. millertheanunnaki | March 12, 2012 at 8:20 AM |
    @ balance | March 12, 2012 at 5:00 AM |
    “i will like all male men to have the benefit of a sexual climax with a female particularly when the chemistry is right. there can nee’r be a greater experience by man.”

    trust me mr miller, there can be no greater joy ascribed to man than this which i would gladly recommend to you rather the pleasure homosexual friend of mine proclaims he enjoys when put in the ‘bakefoul’ kinda smelly, ain’t it.

  18. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ balance | March 13, 2012 at 7:25 PM |
    “. trust me mr miller, there can be no greater joy ascribed to man than this which i would gladly recommend to you…… ”

    I agree totally. Especially after a good “eating”! Then like in the good old days, a “ciggie” (preferably a B&H), chat about how good it was (lying or not) and then a nice sleep.
    Still happens; except for the eating, smoking and lying.


  19. @David, My apologies, as this was not done inadvertently, reget any inconvenience caused to anyone.


  20. @ Miller

    I know…LOL. But it’s been kinda fun and most needed in Lent. Love and life.


  21. @ robert ross

    I am glad to know that you enjoy nature to the fullest, we should all try ourselves to do so. But you SHOULD’NT chew on those Psilocybin mushrooms, they have hallucinogenic properties.

    Now I understand why you have been seeing this continuous smoke on the hill, and hugging trees all day.
    Do we have a confirmed diagnosis then, paranoid delusion, or just an excess of serotonin 5-HT, the HAPPY hormone in the brain . You see the hallucinogens are very structurally similar to serotonin, and could very well act on the serotoninneurons to give YOU that little extrakick.

    Is your comidic comrade miller with you? He has been trying so hard to see the light , but obviously has some form of refractory hindrance. Change your glasses would be a first step.

    Case closed.

  22. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Ph.D | March 14, 2012 at 10:19 AM |
    “Is your comidic comrade miller with you? He has been trying so hard to see the light , but obviously has some form of refractory hindrance. Change your glasses would be a first step.”

    When you have answered on behalf of Zoe my query regarding the polar bear and the cursed serpent in the Ark that Noah built then I would gladly take my thick lens glasses of and see the light.
    I promise you I will be converted. But first answer the silly question posed by the ignorant and naive kindergarten school boy, the miller’s son.


  23. @ R.Ross and Nnuki/Ralian, and your ilk, “But there were (are) FALSE prophets also among the people, (as seen here on BU)…who privily shall bring IN DAMNABLE heresies, even denying the Lord that brought them, and BRING upon themselves SWIFT DESTRUCTION.” ( 2 Peter. 2:1).

    “And many shall follow their PERNICIOUS ways; by reason of whom the WAY OF TRUTH, (God’s Word) shall be evil spoken of .” (v.2)

    “For the mystery of INIQUITY doth already work…And with ALL DECEIVABLENESS of UNRIGHTEOUSNESS IN* THEM that PERISH; ( Why?) Because they received NOT THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH ( God’s Word) that they might be saved….And for this cause God shall send THEM DELUSION ( that what?) that they should believe a LIE. That they ALL might be DAMNED who believe NOT the Truth (God’s Word) but has pleasure in unrighteousness .”
    (2 Thess. 2: 7a, 10, 11).


  24. Further, Ross, Nnaki/Ralian, et al,

    “But the WORD OF GOD endureth FOREVER, which (Which is what?) by the Gospel preached unto you.” ( I Peter 1:25).

    “Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him. ‘If you ABIDE in MY WORD, you are My disciples indeed. And you SHALL KNOW* THE TRUTH, and THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE.” ( John. 8:31).

    The TRUTH of Jesus, IS* inseperable from His Word, and His WORD, is inseperable from the Scriptures!

    Therefore, again, in John 17: 3, 14, 17, 19, we hear Jesus saying:

    “And this IS* ETERNAL LIFE, that they may KNOW* You, the ONLY TRUE God and Jesus Christ, whom YOU have sent. I have given them YOUR WORD, and the world has HATED them, because they are NOT of the world ( system) just as I am not of this world. sanctify ( set apart) them by YOUR TRUTH, ( Your what?) YOUR WORD IS* TRUTH. And for their sake, I sanctify My self, that they also may be sanctified by THE TRUTH.”

    “And many wil FOLLOW their DESTRUCTIVE ways, because of whom the way of TRUTH* (Which is absolute) will be blasphemed.” ( 2 Peter 2:2)

    ” Jesus said to him, ‘I AM the WAY, (Not one of many ways!) the TRUTH, ( not one of many truth!) and THE LIFE, NO ONE comes to the Father, EXCEPT THROUGH ME.” ( Jh. 14:6)

    “And there IS* ONE GOD, and ONE MEDIATOR between God and men, the man CHRIST JESUS.” ( I Tim. 2:5).

    All the above are ABSOLUTE Truth Claims, coherently, logically, legally, and historically AFFIRMED by living Eyewitnesses, His disciples, fURTHER confirmed throughout Chruch history, right up until TODAY, by multitudes across the world, who HAVE, and continue to VALIDATE, Jesus Truth Claim, by their testimonies of the REALITY of Transformed lives, day after day.

    Absolute PROOF Positive, that His WORD, the Scriptures, are REAL and TRUE!

  25. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @Zoe | March 14, 2012 at 12:26 PM |
    “Further, Ross, Nnaki/Ralian, et al, ”

    That’s it, Zoe! No further until you explain the story of the polar bear, the cursed serpent and the ark.


  26. @ miller

    I don’t pretend to know everything nor do I offer some nonsensical uttering because I have to say something.

    I am no superior intellect, maybe just less ignorant of some areas of life, and certainly more ignorant in others. You must have noticed that I don’t ever speak authoritatively or comment on subjects that I know nothing or very little about. I am certainly not one dimensional either.

    Your question about polar bears , sloths, and serpents , I have aboslutely no answer for , but I am sure a more informed person could help you there. This admission however does not validate your beliefs or make the scriptures any less relevant or historically correct, or lacking.

    Usually when a person finds himself in deep water , unable to swim, he will garb hold of anything in his way to save his butt, but the little straws can’t support him. These petty little diversions are not worthy of comment. In my opinion, these are useless details. My focus is on my own salvation, how these things would contribute to that is hard for me to see.

    Should we take it from the ridiculous one step further? Is it valuable information to know if Moses had chiggers or if he wore Armani boxer shorts?

    PRIDE is a good thing , but can also be very harmful. We have a university degree or two, and feel that we are now qualified to play God.
    PRIDE and STUPIDITY.

    When walking on the edge of a razor, you might find that pride is on your left and stupidity is on your right.

    Pride is having trained your entire life to make the national cricket team , and you made it. Very good.
    Stupidity is having been hit in the skull by a bouncer and merely icing it and continuing to show how tough and patriotic, and loyal to the team you are. Your pride said continue smartly, and your stupidity said you made the right choice.

    I have no intention to continue with this stupidity parade. There seems to be an over abundance of intellectual congruency displayed here. I have no desire to be a part of it.

    My advice to you then is ask someone who is more knowleable than I.

  27. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Ph.D | March 14, 2012 at 4:07 PM |
    “This admission however does not validate your beliefs or make the scriptures any less relevant or historically correct, or lacking.”

    Unlike you I have no beliefs based on the Judeo-Christian abridged story book. But it is interesting that you concede ignorance of the real meaning of the Noah’s ark story but would vociferously peddle the untenable position that all living humans living today are the descendants of those three sons of Noah and their wives. Incest would have to be the order of the day; no wonder mankind’s genetic map is so confused and in many cases defective.
    The same way you are prepared to concede that you don’t have the answers to everything under the sun, you should consider tempering you dogma and absolute blind assertion that the only way to salvation is through Jesus. You, along with Zoe, should get off your religious high horse, stop pontificating and pretending to speak on the behalf of God.

    Who gives you or Zoe the right to determine who goes to heaven or hell? By your own fulminations and fulsome religious bigotry you are condemning two thirds of humanity past and present to the everlasting flames of Hell.
    But as you said your focus ought to be on your own salvation. So stop frightening people by preaching that the only way to salvation is through Jesus or else damnation and eternal pain from the flames in Hell. If that is the only way to salvation one can take it to the ridiculous and say the chiggers in Moses feet along with crotch itch in the Armani boxer shorts caused by the heat in Hell would be his eternal punishment because he did not know or accept Jesus during his life as the only way to salvation. But then again a burnt offering of a ram (Aries) can always substitute for the salvation by the fish (Pisces).

    By now you must have realised you are up against intellectually and otherwise a mountain of Allah proportion. So take your own advice and stop the stupidity. Pride cometh before a fall! Never try to speak on behalf of God. Keep faith with your Judeo-Christian culture but never seek to impose it by violence or dictate on other cultures or religious systems. God in its multiple sunbeams has created variety for a reason: to make life interesting and worth living.

    Now seek a higher teacher for your intellectual salvation! Buddha might be a wise choice!


  28. ” The fear of the LORD IS* the beginning of knowledge, But FOOLS despise WISDOM and instruction.: (Prov. 1:7)

    “Then they will call on Me (Almighty God, and Jesus Christ) but I will NOT answer…Because they HATED* knowledge. And did NOT choose the fear the Lord. They would have none of My counsel. And DESPISED My every rebuke. Therefore, they shall eat the fruit of their own way. And be filled to the full with their own FANCIES. For the turning away of the simple will slay THEM. And the complacency of fools will destroy them. But whoever listens to Me will dwell safely. And will be secure, without fear of evil.” (Prov. 1: 28-33)


  29. Why aren’t Dinosaurs Mentioned in the Biblical Creation Account?
    by Rich Deem

    “IntroductionWhy would God have left out a description of the dinosaurs from the creation account found in the Bible? Skeptics claim that this omission proves that the Bible wasn’t written by God’s inspiration, but is just a compilation of the words of fallible men. First, we should understand the origin of the Genesis creation account and its purpose in the Bible. The first five books of the Bible, including Genesis, were written by Moses. Since nobody except God was present at the creation, the Genesis creation account was given to Moses by God. If one is attempting to second guess the Author of Genesis, one must take these facts into account.

    Purpose of the creation accountGod was not interested in giving Moses a scientific treatise on the creation of the world. The Bible indicates that God’s communication to Moses was centered on the relationship between God and man and the rules by which God wanted man to live. Therefore, the creation account mirrors the content of the rest of the Bible, which centers on mankind and his relationship to God. The question, “Why would God leave out a description of the dinosaurs?” is a bad one to begin with. A more appropriate question should be “What would God want to relate to man about His description of the creation?”

    This is a brief excert from the following link, dealing with such matters, and questions posed by critics and skeptics of God’s Word, and the Genesis account of Creation, etc.

    http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics

  30. Random Thoughts Avatar
    Random Thoughts

    Quoting balance “The leading causes of deaths worldwide are noncommunicable diseases, such as heart disease, cancers, lung disease and diabetes. These diseases killed more than 36 million people in 2008, according a report released Tuesday by the World Health Organization.

    Heart disease deaths were responsible for 48% of these deaths, cancers 21%, chronic lung diseases 12%, and diabetes 3%. In many cases these are preventable deaths that are related to unhealthy habits such as smoking, physical inactivity, and unhealthy diets.”

    Heart disease, cancers, chronic lung disease and diabetes deaths come mostly in advanced old age.

    Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately) there is still no cure for old age or for death.

    Fortunately or unfortunately eventually 100% of people die.

    The mortality rate is 100%


  31. @Nnaki/Ralian, A while ago, I posted, via copy and paste, ‘Adam, Eve and Noah vs Modern Genetics’, by Dr. Robert W. Carter; from a scientific/genetics perspective. Yet, you come back again and again, asking the same questions about Noah and his three sons, how could they have been responsible for ALL the people alive on earth today?

    Man, Nnaki/Ralian, check out this link, http://www.creation.com/noah-and-genetics and READ carefully what this Genetist has to say about this issue of Noah and modern genetics.

    Here is a brief excert from that article of this subject matter.

    Where are all the people?
    by Don Batten

    Six billion people live on planet Earth. That sounds like a lot of people. Well, I would not want to invite them all to a barbecue at my house! However, they could all fit into an area the size of England, with more than 20 square metres each. Many of us live in cities, so we have the impression that the world is bursting with people. However, much of the world is sparsely populated.

    Nevertheless, many wonder at how the population could have grown to six billion from Noah’s family who survived the Flood that wiped out everyone else about 4,500 years ago. When you do the figures, it confirms the Biblical truth that everyone on Earth today is a descendant of Noah’s sons and daughters-in-law. Not only that, but if people have been here for much longer, and there was no global Flood of Noah’s day, there should be a lot more people than there are—or there should be a lot more human remains!

    Many people have problems understanding growth rates of things. When the population doubles from 16 to 32, it does not seem like much, but when it doubles from three billion to six billion it seems like a lot more. But, it is exactly the same rate of growth. Given enough generations, the number of people being added with each generation becomes astronomical. It’s like compound interest on an investment—eventually the amount being added each year becomes very great.

    To illustrate this, think of the story of the inventor of chess. His king offered him a reward, but instead of gold he asked for one grain of rice doubled for each successive square on a chessboard. The number of grains would have been 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32 etc. The 10th square would have 512; the 20th, 524 thousand; the 30th, 537 million. The amount of rice on the last square1would have been a number so great—vastly in excess of the total world rice harvest at present—that it would have represented wealth far exceeding that of the king. Such is the power of compounding. And population growth is compound growth—that’s why so many people are now being added each year. It’s not necessarily that people are having more children than they once did, or that fewer people are dying.

    What causes population growth?
    The population grows when more people are born than die. The current growth rate of the world population is about 1.7% per year.2 In other words, for every 100 million people, 1.7 million are added every year; i.e. births net of deaths.

    Many assume that modern medicine accounts for the world’s population growth. However, ‘third world’ countries contribute most of the population growth, suggesting that modern medicine is not as important as many think.

    Population growth in a number of South American and African countries exceeds 3% per year. In many industrialized countries with modern medical facilities, the population growth is less than 0.5%. Some relatively wealthy countries are actually declining in population.

  32. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Zoe | March 14, 2012 at 10:58 PM |
    “Population growth in a number of South American and African countries exceeds 3% per year.”
    The largest or biggest concentrations of populations are in Asia and the Indian sub-continent- China, India, Indonesia and the Filipinos make a sizeable proportion of the World’s population of 7-plus million. Given it size Africa is under-populated so too are South & North Americas. oe | March 14, 2012 at 10:58 PM |
    “Population growth in a number of South American and African countries exceeds 3% per year.”
    The largest or biggest concentrations of populations are in Asia and the Indian sub-continent- China, India, Indonesia and the Phillpines

    But how can we rely on your word when you doggedly refuse to answer the question about the fable ark and the motley of animals therein.


  33. Nnaki/Ralian, I have REPEATEDLY challenged you, to REFUTE, many of my post, citing, EVIDENCE, FACTS, the prepondence of which, support overwhelmingly, the Creation narrative account in God’s Word, the Bible, from a Scientific, historic, legal, logical, coherent, congruent, perspective, and your SILENCE is conspicuous, distinct, OBVIOUS, open-and-shut, patent, plain, that you CANNOT offer any counter argument, whatsoever, because you have NONE!

    What do you then do? In your intellectual dishonesty, unable to counter with any coherent, logical, historic, scientific, legal evidence and facts, you resort to stupid, silly, ‘Redherring’ Strawmanized, empty, voidless, questions, that are ALL CONSUMED, brought to an end, by the overpowering EVIDENCE, supplied by, I.e., The Fossil Record, which overwhelmingly confirm and support the Genesis account of Special Creation; as recoreded in God’s Word, the Bible, and brilliant, Christian scientists, such as Dr. Robert W. Carter, in his paper on, ‘Adam, Eve and Noah vs Modern Genetics, where he, intelligently, as a genetists, puts together, scientifically, a cogent, coherent, logical, analysis, of the facts that rationally, explain the DNA, starting with the Nohaic flood, from which the genetic link, and ALL subsequent population of the earth, came, a genetically SOUND, argument, that the Evolutionists, and those of your ‘ILK’ have NO answer for.

    Regarding the animals in the Ark, which CANNOT be seperated from Noah and his family, as Almighty God, in His sovereign design and purpose, choose to do IT that way, has been given much supporting, congruent, scientific explanations, from bright Christian scientists, all there on the internet, that any intellectually HONEST person, can read, and understand, BUT, those who have CHOOSEN, NOT to see and ADMIT, to the evidence, will continue in their WILFULL, BLINDEDNESS, thus, professing themselves to be wise, have become FOOLS, self-imposed FOOLS, as the Word of God, describes such folly and foolishness!

  34. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Zoe | March 15, 2012 at 8:28 AM |

    You can preach until your tongue drop out your mouth you are still not impressing anyone until you can confirm beyond any doubt that two polar bears were in the ark along with two cursed serpents named adam and eve.
    Get it, star?


  35. @Nnaki/Ralian, For your enlightenment of ‘Bears’ and how the Polar Bear came into being, I.e., from other first Created Bears, NOT Polar ones, see
    http://www.creation.combears-across-the-world


  36. Is the Bible Really the Word of God?

    See: http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/bibletru.html

  37. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @Zoe | March 15, 2012 at 9:41 AM |
    “@Nnaki/Ralian, For your enlightenment of ‘Bears’ and how the Polar Bear came into being, I.e., from other first Created Bears, NOT Polar ones…”
    So you are now prepared to accept that “EVOLUTION” played and still a part in the existence of LIFE on this planet?

    According to your Genesis Creation Story your omnipotent god created everything within 6 days. Perfect and living in harmony until the serpent came along! No need for anything to “evolve”!
    Explain this evolving of the polar bear from the regular bear. Maybe this can help explain why white people exist. . Did they “evolve” from black or brown people, like the bears?


  38. Nnaki/Ralian, Man, how densely ignorant can you be?

    “So you are now prepared to accept that “EVOLUTION” played and still a part in the existence of LIFE on this planet?”

    NO! NO! NO!, the scientific point of EVIDENCE, in links supplied, does NOT support ‘Darwinian Evolution’ or what is other wise known as ‘Evolutionary Materialiasm’ purported by these ‘Atheistic’ pseudo-scientists.

    But, that some very simple scientific FACTS, from the FOSSIL Record, point to, in FACT, are directly confirmative of Creation, as specifically outlined in the Genesis account narrative, of the Bible, God’s divinely Inspired Word, that IS*, that “So God CREATED great seas creatures and EVERY living thing that MOVES, with which the waters abounded, according to THEIR KIND*, and every winged bird according to ITS KIND…” (Gen. 1:21) See also vv. 24,25.

    The FACT of the matter IS* that Special Creation, IS* emphatically supported thousands of years AFTER the FACT, by literally MILIONS of Fossil discoveries, ALL of which, each and every time they are found, no matter where on earth, or in the sea, each and every time, regardless of the ‘species’ they ALL appear ‘abruptly’ that IS* fully and completely FORMED, exactly AS they were CREATED in the first place, by Almighty God; and the plain simple FACTS, of MILLIONS of FOSSILS, repeated speak, in their eloquent SILENCE, loudly, that WE* were ALL Created by Almighty God, that’s WHY, we ALL appear, FULY FORMED, no ‘transitional’ fossils will ever be found, as WE did NOT ‘Evolve’ we were ALL Created!

    However, because God created them, with Specified Complexity DNA, WITHIN each coded ‘species’ they were able to ‘Evolve’ NOT Evolutionary, Darwinian NONSENSE, HOGWASH, but from WITHIN each given species, as we see in ‘Dogs’ birds, bears, etc, etc. over the ages, NOT this absurd pseudo-scientific LIE, of millions of years of so-called Evolution, via random mutation, etc, but, from within the already Created Order, of ‘species’.

    So, Nnaki/Ralian, don’t worry to come with so patently obvious ‘Redherring’ distractives, to side-track from the central issue and matter at hand; won’t work, can’t work!

    Lets stick to the sound scientific EVIDENCE and FACTS; if you are intellectually honest enough, to do that! Think you can?


  39. Micro and Macro – Evolution Explained.

    See: http://www.exchangelife.com/creation/macro-evol.shtml

    There is a drastic world of difference between Micro and Macro Evolution; with the pseudo-scientists of ‘Evolutionary- Darwinian- Evolution’ always seeking to TWIST and PERVERT the scientific facts and evidence, deceitfully and dishonestly, to some how ‘merge’ these vastly different aspects of the TRUTH.


  40. Have not checked this discussion for a while, but I just received this video showing how Africans in Uganda feel about the subject


  41. Biblical Archaeology: Factual Evidence to Support the Historicity of the Bible.

    See: http://www.equip.org

  42. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Zoe | March 15, 2012 at 11:43 AM |
    However, because God created them, with Specified Complexity DNA, WITHIN each coded ‘species’ they were able to ‘Evolve’ NOT Evolutionary, Darwinian NONSENSE, HOGWASH, but from WITHIN each given species, as we see in ‘Dogs’ birds, bears, etc, etc. over the ages, NOT this absurd pseudo-scientific LIE, of millions of years of so-called Evolution, via random mutation, etc, but, from within the already Created Order, of ‘species’.

    We all had the impression that you were knocked down in the last round and was forced to take a mandatory 10 count. Now you seem to be on your feet again so listen up:

    “How densely ignorant can you be!” Love it! You have just received a pass mark in English Language for the inadvertent use of a powerful figure of speech that pertinently sums up your blind acceptance of the creation story in your Judeo-Christian book of folklore. By taking the timelines mentioned in the first tale of the story book we can say that your god created everything existing in the universe in 6 days including man and woman; although the genetic modification did not take place until the second chapter of the first tale. So tell us about the “ages” over which the various “coded species” ‘evolved’ along the non-evolutionary non Darwinian lines. Are they the stages in the 6000-7000 life of the universe? Please let us know, Zoe, how old is the Earth and by extension the Universe according to the story of the creation? Do you still believe that the Earth is the centre of the Universe and the Sun revolves around the Earth?


  43. @ miller

    “By now you must have realised you are up against intellectually and otherwise a mountain of Allah proportion. So take your own advice and stop the stupidity. Pride cometh before a fall! ”

    ” I promise you I will be converted. But first answer the silly question posed by the ignorant and naive kindergarten school boy, the miller’s son. ”

    ” See them just as you see the fundamentalist Muslims who would wipe out tens of people including their own family in order to go to heaven and have the joy and pleasure of deflowering 7 or how many virgins; with the main man the looking on.”

    Do yo recognise any of the above ? These are your own words, so let’s see how you plan to walk away from them.

    You have stepped into an ants nest, specifically the bullet ant ( Paraponera clavata) and with each sting you become more confused and disoriented, so in your state of utter panic and desperation, you thrash here and there in the only way you know how.It won’t help you , you do not have the intellectual anti venom to defend yourself.

    On the one hand you fancy yourself as some intellectual K2, on the other, an ” ignorant , and naive kindergarten school boy”.We already have formed an opinion, entirely based on your own self asessment, kindergarten school boy. Thanks for your brilliant job of self analysis.

    But there seems to be another side as well, the vile, profane, slanderous side. First of all you know absolutely nothing about me ,or my Christian beliefs . Yet you label me to be the Christian equivalent of an Islamist murderer, even going so far as to suggest that I would take the life of my family for my own personal salvation. You are way out of order. But like the old scorpion and frog fable, it is just your nasty nature.

    You also accuse me of judging sinners, and sending them of to hell and the righteous to heaven. My name is not Jesus, and he is the only one who has that authority.

    I challenge you here and now to produce anything , where I even came close to doing/saying any of the above since I have been posting on the BU.

    Another thing , they are millions of Christians living on every continent on this planet, so whether they are Chinese, Russian, Indonesian,Samoan,Amazonean Indian or pygmy, is not important.
    Again I wonder why it is that some animals eat their newborn offspring at birth. Luckily we are human.

    Next post whenever that is , I will try my best to idiotise my responses.It might go some way in assisting you .

    ” Pride cometh before a fall” You could’nt have said it better. You are half way there.

  44. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Ph.D | March 16, 2012 at 5:17 AM |
    “Another thing , they are millions of Christians living on every continent on this planet, so whether they are Chinese, Russian, Indonesian,Samoan,Amazonean Indian or pygmy, is not important.
    Again I wonder why it is that some animals eat their newborn offspring at birth. Luckily we are human.”

    I read your barbs which have dented my pride so expect a fall. Hope you are not in my way to Hades! But before we get there in tandem please explain what will happen to the other BILLIONS who were or are not ‘Christians dead or living on every continent on this planet, even if they are Chinese, Russian, East Indian, Indonesian, Samoan, Amazonian Indian or pygmy’.
    Since you seem to know where the Christians will be heading, please tell us about the destination of the majority, including those Roman Catholics Jehovah Witnesses and Mormons that have been disqualified by Zoe. Would they also receive the blessing and forgiveness from Jesus on their dying bed even though they might have never heard about or recognized the man as God.
    Make sure that you answer in an idiotic way so that even simpletons like me and Zoe can say: “Thank you teacher, you come right down to our level to make things so simple and easy to understand. Why we grow up we want to be just like you”.


  45. “Nnaki/Ralian, I have REPEATEDLY challenged you, to REFUTE, many of my post, citing, EVIDENCE, FACTS, the prepondence of which, support overwhelmingly, the Creation narrative account in God’s Word, the Bible, from a Scientific, historic, legal, logical, coherent, congruent, perspective, and your SILENCE is conspicuous, distinct, OBVIOUS, open-and-shut, patent, plain, that you CANNOT offer any counter argument, whatsoever, because you have NONE!”

    Nnaki/Ralian, You CANNOT even begin to deal with with the ABOVE CHALLENGE, as you have NO REFUTATION to posit WHATSOEVER, NONE*, you are like the man, UP to his neck in a ‘Quicksand’ PIT, whose every attempt to free himself from such dire straights, only brings him DEEPER and DEEPER into the Abyss of ultimate DEATH!

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    @ Zoe | March 16, 2012 at 9:07 AM |
    “you are like the man, UP to his neck in a ‘Quicksand’ PIT, whose every attempt to free himself from such dire straights, only brings him DEEPER and DEEPER into the Abyss of ultimate DEATH!”

    Well, Zoe since I am stuck in quicksand of ignorance and evil and heading foot first to the burning lake of fire please, I be you Zoe, don’t let go of my feet! I want to be with you to the bitter end.


  47. Nnaki/Ralian, You are the epitome of the “natural man” ‘De pseukikos anthropos’ DEAD spiritually, in IGNORANCE, because:

    “He who keeps instruction (The word of God), is in the way of LIFE. But he (You Nnaki!) who REFUSES correction goes ASTRAY…. FOOLS DIE for lack of WIDOM.” (Prov. 10: 17, 21a)

    PR’I’DE, notice, Nnaki, “I” is in the center of PRIDE, EGO-CENTEREDNESS, is at the very foundation of ALL S’I’N, again, note the “I” is at the center of ‘SIN’ your PR’I’DE will NOT allow you to accept, CORRECTION, in your PRIDE-FILLED heart!


  48. Israeli doctors save Palestinian baby

    Gazan seven-month-old’s life saved thanks to open-heart surgery in Israeli hospital. ‘Hopefully, this is a good sign for peace,’ says child’s grandfather

    A seven-month-old Palestinian baby was recently saved from certain death by doctors in an Israeli hospital.

    The baby, Odai Al-Kafarna was brought to Israel from Gaza by his grandmother Haniya in order to undergo open-heart surgery, according to theworld.org.

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    Simply put, Odai was born with a hole in his heart, causing it to work inefficiently. One side of the organ was approximately a third larger than it should have been, according to doctors, causing it to wear itself out. The surgery closed the hole using a small piece of gortex. Without surgery, Odai would not have lived long.

    “In this case we caught it early,” said Godwin Jeffrey, a Tanzanian doctor on a three-year training stint with the Israeli non-profit organization, Save a Child’s Heart. “The patient will improve like any other person and he will have a very normal lifespan.”

    Save a Child’s Heart is an Israeli-based group of pediatric heart surgeons who have saved more than 2,600 children with congenital heart defects from 36 countries including Iraq, Jordan, Sudan, and the Palestinian Authority. As well, Israel itself issues permits to more than 10,000 Palestinians from the Gaza Strip every year to enable them to seek medical attention at Israeli hospitals.

    No hospital in Gaza has a high-tech by-pass machine, like the one Odai was hooked up to during the surgery.

    ‘We don’t have problems with each other’
    Odai and his grandmother stayed in Israel for three weeks, before leaving the hospital and returning to their home in Beit Hanoun, in the northern Gaza Strip. Haniya, who had previously been to Israel just once, 20 years ago, said that the hospital staff treated her grandson very well.

    “People are good,” she said. “Regular people are good everywhere. We don’t have problems with each other.”

    Upon returning home, there was a welcome party made up of a couple dozen relatives and neighbors who waited outside, some with fireworks ready, for the arrival of the baby. Odai’s grandfather, Mahmoud Al-Kafarna said, “It’s almost as if Odai has come back from the dead.”

    “Hopefully, this is a good sign for peace,” said Al-Kafarna, who expressed his gratitude towards the doctors. He fondly recalled the days before the intifada, when PA Arabs from Gaza interacted with Israelis on a daily basis.

    “Maybe a family like ours one day can go visit a sick relative in an Israeli hospital. And maybe, relations between Palestinians and Israelis, eventually, will get back to normal. That’s what we wish for.”

    Both Odai’s 21-year-old father, Ali Al-Kafarna and his mother, Taghreed, were thrilled to see their son return home healthy.

    “These past three weeks were incredibly difficult,” said Taghreed. “But calling the hospital to hear the baby babble a little over the phone – that helped a lot.”

    “I must be the happiest man in the world,” agreed Ali.

    Reprinted with permission from Shalom Life


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