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Kaymar Jordan, Editor-in-Chief of the NATION Newspaper

No Kaymar Jordan you did not tell the truth and stand justifiably accused by the general public. Your manipulations and distortions converted what could have been an otherwise great story into a scandalous piece of journalistic tripe. Now you and whoever helped you write that editorial would hoodwink the public (again) into believing that there was merit in what you did; all you have done in the editorial is to confirm the stupidity of the NATION’s newspaper policy. Technology has seen it fit that newspapers remain widely read. So what was the point you were making about technology again? No amount of spin doctoring will alter what remains a travesty.

You distorted the truth – for effect and commercial gain and possibly out of pure ignorance. You could not even give the public that your deliberateness in distorting was influenced by the expectation of more information and for that you apologize. I now say any decent newspaper would have fired you or put you on the back bench like they will put Sinckler. I for one will not buy another Nation or Sunday Sun newspaper. But what does it matter? Who cares? Not the Nation . Harold Hoyte I am ashamed of you too because I know you still have influence in what goes on at the paper.


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150 responses to “A View Of The NATION From Underground”


  1. @WordSong

    Ordinarily readers frown on postings written in CAPS, in light of the subject matter you have a right to be angry at the dereliction in duty of a key member of our Fourth Estate.


  2. @ David

    Apologies for the Caps. I am so very disgusted by all this. And yes, extremely angry at the media hacks we now have, who seem to feel they have a monopoly on the “truth” and would have us believe what they “say” it is. The pen is mightier than the sword. My only means of fighting this injustice to the Barbadian public is by wielding my own sword and that is by expressing my own thoughts about this unhappy state of affairs the Nation would have us forget through a few contrived thoughts in an editorial. Does anyone remember the Daily News in the 1960s during the independence debates? well the Nation is no less manipulative than they were? And what happened? The Daily News went out of commission eventually. This is what will happen to the Nation if it keeps up like this – without due regard or respect for the public and the people it SERVES. No it is not solely answerable to its board and financiers. The public deserves an apology and should not be begging for it either.

  3. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    I have said time and again that the Nation newspaper cares nothing about the truth, they don’t let it get in their way.

    I wrote the Nation newspaper off as a believable paper from the fiasco with the St. George Secondary School and the pornography myth.


  4. This is so silly! Stop playing with semantics! It is so good we have the Nation. CBC, The Advocate and some of you blogs have do no justice to news and the truth. So you want to shut it down and have us live with the everyday silence of pro-Government media. The Nation is fair and balanced. Long may it live on.


  5. What about the Advocate and CBC?


  6. You forgot the girl the made up stories that were placed in the Advocate about a girl in a school. Get off the Nation back.. Thank God for the Nation!

  7. George C. Brathwaite Avatar
    George C. Brathwaite

    Finally CCC has voice yet again. David he should be thanking you or the less than stellar performance of the Nation though critical to exposing the culprits now known as the Eager 11.


  8. These cowards want to shut down the only free and fair media house in Barbados and then they will hide the truth. This will be the last dastardly act on the freedom of expression and the right to know what is going on in this country..


  9. @JB

    Address the the criticism addressed here and stop the PR.


  10. This ruthless attack on the only free and fair media house cannot be glossed over. Your evil intent is clear. You are an emissary or mercenary.. Any fool can see that this is a crude and crass attempt to destroy the messenger. This messenger, the Nation, has served this country too well for too long and has stood up to both the Bees and Dees.


  11. This is about accountability.

    The Nation published a story and stated it was in possession of a letter with 11 signatures affixed. It also stated that the letter was sent to PM Stuart. The report could have been reported factually with the same affect.

    Deal with the facts.

    The NATION had no right to embellish the news report.


  12. @ JB. Indeed. Address what the Nation and it’s Editor in Chief have done over the last few days. It is true that in some far more developed countries the public outrage would have resulted in actions taken against the paper and its Editor in Chief. If this is the fair and balance nature of media in this country, I shudder. JB, I know far more than you think. Now, none of these papers are fair and balanced. None. The media in our country is duplicitous. Not only that the political machinery is often extremely intimidating. Semantics? Speak to Kaymar Jordan about that. The message here is clear: apologize though it seems JB has been thinking about shutting the paper down. The Nation will self destruct if it continues like this. No one will have to shut it down. It will survive on advertising alone or for the most part like the Advocate without a strong buying public. Again the message to the Nation is clear: Apologize to the public.


  13. Dishonesty ! propaganda sensationalism ! Rogue reporting! Yellow journalism!misinformation

    We the jury finds the defendant Kymar Jordan and her accomplice the NATiON News Paper guilty on all counts in the Case of The People vs Chris Sinckler.

  14. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    From the time Kaymar Jordan took up employment at the Nation I was very suspicious of her.

    I remember Kaymar Jordan getting a tongue lashing from Portia Simpson when she was the PM of Jamaica, for poor journalism.


  15. Why are you people trying to shot the Nation down, yes, it was poor journalism, but did anyone stop to think how the Nation got the news? One of those same 11 would have leaked the information to the Nation. I believe we have not heard the last of this yet, Sinckler is now being made the scapgoat, but I still haven’t heard from John Boyce, Adriel Brathwaite, Michael Lashley, or Donville Inniss, where do they stand on this? In the end P.M Stuart has to do something to calm the waters, the next move is now his, how he plays the ball can determine the path for the DLP in the upcoming general elections.


  16. @The Scout

    Who is shooting the NATION down?

    All that is being done is to hold the newspaper accountable.

    It is something that should not be negotiable or should we compromise on it.


  17. Looking at the whole context you are being contentious. Look at the big picture. The Advocate, CBC, Free Press and such like are suppressing news, big news. Thanks to the Nation the truth will out! And besides do you not consider yourself a competitor with the Nation? No wonder your vicious attack on the Nation! Or do you want the woman’s job?

  18. George C. Brathwaite Avatar
    George C. Brathwaite

    @CCC

    Everyone, every organisation, everything is wrong but the DLP and all of its members, supporters, actions are always right and clean of any wrong doing in all matters. Keep on thinking and saying that CCC.


  19. @JB BU is a blog where ordinary citizens express their opinions free of censor. i.e. without the persuasion of advertising dollars or interference from the tentacles of other societal influences. Any BS deposited is quickly ferreted out and expose for what it is.


  20. Men be careful how you bash women. You may be showing the cloth you are made of..


  21. Get off of the Nation’s back: what you accuse the Nation of is a misdemeanour compared to the high treason that it exposed.

    The main story is not about the Nation: stop trying to deflect the country from where it should really be focused.


  22. This is why I have a serious problem with women being placed in top positions. I have no issue with them running their own businesses, but the “many” and there are “many” who are being placed in key positions, whether in the public or private sector, are chosen because they are easy to manipulate from behind the scenes. Do you really think the Editor in Chief would have done this on her own volition? Stupse …


  23. Wow Caswell knows best … give me a f*ckin’ break …


  24. @Caswell

    Are you saying we can’t report on and discuss multiple issues?


  25. @SCOUT

    Scout everything you mentioned in your posting we did . Now we are putting the spotlight back to whereit started out 1.e with the Nation and its poor journalism unethical practices . Do you have a problem with that. I thought you would say NO! Now join in the conversation and asked for integrity .! Accountabilty! Professionalism! Truthfulness and the bareboneFacts from the media . You get IT while you are at it you can whisper those words in George Bratwaite ears. HE has been harping on the DLP for such an ACT.


  26. David
    There is so much that happening that needto have persons held accountable for, The NIS Board with chairman Marshall, flatly turned down a request for a loan of $50 million for 4 Seasons, yet with intervention from the same P.M and Sinckler, not only was the loan approved but it was increased by $10 million. This is just one of the blunders that needs accountability. The Nation has simply join the ranks of all the others, including the Advocate and CBC. It seems mant DLP supporters would like to hold the NAtion above the other media or would like to control ALL the media houses in Barbados. Bottom line is, their is no investigative journalism in Barbados


  27. @The Scout

    Shouldn’t the NATION and the OCM Group as a whole be held accountable given their dominant maketshare?

    Search BU archives and you should find blogs which are critical of The CBC and The BarbafdosAdvocate. However they represent small marketshare.


  28. What is the matter with Caswell does he have a vested interest in that DAILY RAG; JUST a reminder Birds of a feather flock together.You better watch your Words nobody getting on anybody;s back . Just trying to make that clear before those words come back to haunt you. You are welcome!


  29. @BAFBFP.

    The fact that Kaymar Jordan is a woman has nothing to do with her journalism, her ethics or anything else related to the story she distorted. There are many outstanding female journalists around the world. There is nothing wrong with women being placed in top positions. I for one was supportive of Kaymar Jordan when she received the top editor position at the Nation. My only suspicion was her tendency towards sensationalism. True to form, she has committed the ultimate journalistic sin, ignoring, distorting and denying the truth when it is glaring at us. It is wholly disrespectful that there has been no show of accountability, professionalism or truthfulness from the Nation. The means as stated earlier by another blogger does not justify the end. The Nation has set a new benchmark for dishonesty. This is about a specific incident with a specific result. The time period is all in the last week. We need them to apologize as any reputable newspaper would.


  30. Caswell is right. the big story on this blog would appear to be what the Nation did. Mean time you have politicians who are lying to the country out their asses and no one is really as out rage as what the Nation did or did not do.

    every report is saying next year is going to a rough year. we have a party in power who are in some kind of damage control because this story could make them lose the coming election. Not because the country is not going anywhere but because some power hungry person(s) want power and persons beating a dead horse in the Nation.

    fine don’t buy the Nation. shut down the blast place but then what? will it make the country better?

    oh and please tell me this, is what the Nation did or did not do any better that what CBC does?

    in the end the messenger has put the massage out and after all the BS there is truth to the story. the messenger may or may not have added to the story for juice gain but does that change the fact that we are a “Nation” with many bigger problems?

    if you think not then so be it.


  31. Is it reasonable to inquire what is the BAJ’s position on this breech in ethics?


  32. WordSong

    Dey got alota men out dey who get chose fah de same reason too yah know, but there are some jobs that require balls. Unfortunately de women who got dese assets don’ put themselves up to be other people stooges, like Kemar and all de other execs. I know alotta good decent women out dey who self employ and employing other people as well. De ones dat refer to themselves as CEO or senior exec of one kind or ‘nudder of other people companies only serve as watch dogs and pretty faces. Shun them

    As too ethic in a profession that does not exist … hmmm!


  33. What is this nonsense of women being more easy to manipulate than men? You should be ashamed of this view. Just goes to show you have no respect for women! We are headed no where with this backward thinking!


  34. By the way who running CBC and the Advocate?


  35. The BAJ behaves like a tea party – i mean the British styled tea party. It does nothing of consequence except to have an award ceremony every year that I can think of. Journalism codes and ethics are so foreign in this country that the BAJ has floundered for years. It has often not known if to exist or not, and when it does exist, like now, it has no idea of how to behave or what to say. If the BAJ could live up to what might be part of its mandate, then it would have to make a statement on this matter. The fact is that all journalists in Barbados are now implicated by the standard set at the most widely read newspaper – the paper deemed most fair and truthful. Everyone makes mistakes. The Nation and Kaymar Jordan have made a colossal one in the last week and simply magnified it today. The BAJ should be encouraging them to “do the right thing.”


  36. BAFBFP,
    I understand what you are saying but I can’t agree with you simply because gender doesn’t determine ethical behaviour but character of the person. there’ll always be good and bad people, ethical and unethical, people who have integrity and those who do not. It has nothing to do with the sex there were born with.


  37. Does anyone know what was the outcome of the Henry Martindale saga?

    Wasn’t the Police called in?

    Where is the followup story?


  38. David, copy and paste the editorial into Word, highlight all of it, then use the “Change Case feature to change it to “Sentence Case”. Then edit the post and replace the text in caps with the correct rendering. The caps are really not cool. I can do it and send it to you if you want.


  39. Please do GoWEB and thanks.

  40. George C. Brathwaite Avatar
    George C. Brathwaite

    The Nation is not the problem. Kaymar Jordan is not the issue. If we keep our eyes riveted at those two, we fail to defend the democracy, integrity, ethics, and everything else that we want to throw blame at. We need to concentrate upon those who are being counted as the Eager 11; the Pollster; the Kingmaker; the DLP who will not have a Queen as Prime Minister and has now lost Chris ‘forever’. Governance is in shambles regardless of where your fingers point. The Prime Minister may for the sake of damage control make 1 or 2 or even 3 pay a price as sacrificial examples, but it does not rid the country of the sore, the festering of a deep wound, that is causing much pain to ordinary Barbadian men, women, and children who expected much much more than they currently receive. I am very sorry to say this, but this DLP administration has fast eroded the goodwill of the people and the best New Year gift that we can receive is Mr. Stuart doing the honourable thing which is consistent with his character and present to the people of Barbados a date for the next general election. The DLP has now outlived its usefulness in the administration and governance of this country; they have lost the most vital ingredient between the state and the governed; there is no more TRUST.
    It is my intention to write a formal letter requesting the Prime Minister, that in light of those things surfacing over the past few days and especially in the Sunday Sun’s interview with Mr. Sinckler, it is highly improbable that the treasury of Barbados could be put in the hands of anyone (in the interim) besides the Prime Minister himself.
    A Minister of Finance must be trusted to guard our financial and economic affairs in the sights of the public; he must be able to make decisions in which he alone has discretion. We the people of Barbados will continue to work with the Prime Minister but we cannot trust the DLP or the individuals in Parliament on the DLP side to demonstrate that they are strict guardians of our heritage and firm craftsmen of our fate. CALL THE GENERAL ELECTIONS, Mr Prime Minister Stuart!


  41. Much better. I believe that fair is fair. The evidence speaks for itself. Even if there was a sinister plot, the media still has to have its bases covered. Saying that you have a letter with signatures and then changing the wording it previous articles suggests an acknowledgement of a blunder. Continuation to publish people’s faces and names without signatures is just not cool. If we could just put politics aside for a moment, we would see that this could happen to any of us. If the media can do this to people of influence and we don’t condemn it, what would they do to your mother, father, wife, husband or siblings?


  42. @ George C. Brathwaite
    If they had just reported the TRUTH, that they had a drafted letter which hadn’t been signed yet, the public is intelligent enough to make their own opinions on the matter. The media should report, not embellish.


  43. @George

    Is there any reason why we can’t focus on all the issues?

    Do you understand how important the fourth estate is to a working democracy?

    Of course we all know you would want 100% focus to be on the political dimension to this matter.


  44. @ BAFBFP

    You are a male chauvinist oink oink > Bear in mind that if a woman grows balls she is called something else. Sounds familiar?


  45. Quoting Word Song “You could not even give the public that your deliberateness in distorting was influenced by the expectation of more information and for that you apologize. ”

    Can someone please tell me what this sentence means in English?


  46. @GCB

    Are you running for something?

  47. George C. Brathwaite Avatar
    George C. Brathwaite

    @ Mario

    Let us be pragmatic. What is the TRUTH? Whose TRUTH? Today Sinckler gave his version of the TRUTH. PM Stuart gave his version of the TRUTH. Everyone gives their version of the TRUTH.
    Signed or not signed is highly irrelevant to the exposure of a definitive and sinister plan that did not get the traction to be completed. What did you want, signatures after the mission had been achieved?
    If you want to wrong the Nation, maybe you can only in terms of the wording used to break the story and subsequent changes to the original story. The fact is something was exposed that served to undermine the highest executive position in Barbados. It involved at least 11 persons who are addressed as honourable (paradoxically so). If you want to take to task the media, that is your business. I do urge you however, to consider the constituents in the respective constituencies who can no longer trust their representatives. How can I trust the current MoF and he has exercise over the treasury?
    Talk about building a society, and demons possessing young people, what possessed these 11 persons? I am not even caught up with 11 because there are more (inside and outside of Parliament) and there is a bigger plot. I will continue to use the word plot because that is exactly it. I thank the Nation for bringing this sordid affair to the attention of the public.

    @ David

    I am political. I am very political. I am a Barbadian and a Caribbean man. I am also a member of the BLP. Most of all I am George, an independent and critical thinker. I understand the value and rationale for key governing institutions. Any other agenda is peripheral to the issues at the centre.


  48. @George

    Along with changing the original story there was the pronouncement that the letter with the 11 signatories affixed was dispatch to PM Stuart.

  49. George C. Brathwaite Avatar
    George C. Brathwaite

    @david

    No leaks, no story, then plans and maybe no PM Stuart. Thanks to the Nation, Barbados Today, and BU. No thanks to the Advocate or CBC.


  50. Is is true or not that the majority of Democratic Labour Party, Members of Parliemant have no confidence in the Prime Minister?

    Is it true that according to Barbados’ Constitution that the Prime MInister is the person who is able to command the support of the majority of elected MP’S? Is Mr. Stuart able to command the majority? What if the majority does not want to be commanded by Stuart?

    A truthful answer to this question will help us to determine the truth.

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