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Norman Girvan, Research Fellow at the University of the West Indies, St. Augustine
Norman Girvan, Research Fellow at the University of the West Indies, St. Augustine

Prime Minister David Thompsonโ€™s new immigration policy which addresses the vexing issue of undocumented CARICOM workers living in Barbados takes effect from today albeit a national holiday. The policy comes not too soon for many Barbadians who with their eyes see the problem for what it is, an open door immigration policy practiced by the previous government which was not sustainable. The woefully inadequate management information system at the Immigration Department to track people traffic across our borders has since been acknowledged by the Auditor General in his reportย  for period 2008-2009. Those who oppose the Thompson policy point to the the issues of historical linkages between Barbados, Guyana and the other Caribbean islands, betraying the spirit of the Treaty of Chaguaramas, the tone of the Thompson government as a leader in the CSME movement and among other issues.

Interestingly enough the issue of respective Caribbean island governments having cause to focus on more tightly regulating immigration laws has been a hot topic in recent weeks if anyone is to peruse the regional newspapers. Guyana is battling with illegal immigrants from Brazil and China, Jamaica, Dominica Republic and the Bahamas continue to deal with the influx of Haitians, Antigua and Trinidad like Barbados has been at the end of a large inflow of Guyanese and so it continues across the Caribbean. It makes us wonder why Barbados continues to attract the bulk of the dissenting commentary since announcing a new policy to deal with the problem.

A corollary to the immigration debate has been the perspectives of many of those in academia with a secondary observation, the position of the Barbados Labour Party (BLP).

Researcher Akhentoolove 'Eddie' Corbin at Cave Hill, UWI
Researcher Akhentoolove 'Eddie' Corbin at Cave Hill, UWI

A visit to the website of Norman Girvan, Research Fellow at the University of the West Indies, St. Augustineย  list a series of submissions which cloak the problem of undocumented workers as being xenophobic and reckless on the part of Barbados. We couldnโ€™t find any prominence of the view which Professor Girvan gives to the possibility that undocumented workers might possibly represent a socio-economic problem for Barbados and therefore requires an urgent response. To support the position we listened last year to a radio program where Girvan and UWI Lecturer Tennyson Joseph accused Prime Minister Thompson and by extension Barbados of reneging its leadership role on the matter of CSME. The discourse prompted Minister Chris Sinckler to respond by asking where had Barbados not met its obligations to CARICOM and CSME under the Thompson administration.

Last weekย  Akintolove Corbin who has an academic role at the UWI Cave Hill again spoke with a fork tongue on the issue of immigration in Barbados while hosting a talk show. He readily admitted that Barbados has to manage immigration better than it has done in the past but was quick to add the caveat: Barbados must be careful not to derail it role in furthering the regional integration movement. Why append this condition when all Barbados has done is to make a policy decision as is the right of any sovereign country to do? Did Thompson not give an amnesty to the undocumented people in Barbados?

Dr. Keith Nurse is director of the Shridath Ramphal Centre for International Trade Law, Policy and Services at the Cave Hill Campus
Dr. Keith Nurse is Director of the Shridath Ramphal Centre for International Trade Law, Policy and Services at the Cave Hill Campus

At the screening of the Annalee Davis 30 minute show which documented the anecdotes of mostly Indo-Guyanese negative experiences travelling into Barbados and a few other islands guess who put in an appearance to give vocal support?ย  Dr. Keith Nurse, director of the Shridath Ramphal Centre for International Trade Law, Policy and Services at the Cave Hill Campus (Barbados) was quick to praise the work of Davis which portrayed Barbados as the big bully trying to keep Guyanese from entering Barbados. The Davis video made no attempt to capture the views of officialdom to provide the other view i.e. the Barbados Immigration Department, Police, Minister in government or even a senior journalist. The ease with which Dr. Nurse endorsed the amateur attempt by Davis to taint the reputation of Barbados which has always adopted a leadership role in the regional integration movement opens the door for his motives to be questioned.

The most vocal exception of those in academia has been Professor Michael Howard. It seems stupid that people of such high learning and accreditation would confuse the freedom of movement under the spirit of the Treaty of Chaguramus and the need for a 166 square mile island to manage the inflow of people from outside. We highlight spirit because as far as has been reported Barbados has honoured it commitment to the treaty by allowing those category of skill workers identified to to freely work under the CSME arrangement.

With interest we read the report of the Antigua Opposition Leader Lester Birdย  requesting the government to factor an amnesty in its new immigration policy but at the same time he seemed to be supportive. In Barbados the Opposition Barbados Labour Party has been to a man very unsympathetic to the position taken by the Thompson government. The government has been accused of taking a populist position which may jeopardize the implementation of CSME. Again of interest is the statement by Secretary General of CARICOM Edwin Carrington that the objectives of the integration movement may have to be revisited. It is clear that the immigration issue has been allowed to become a political football. It would have taken great courage to have announced the new immigration policy, Prime Minister David Thompson should take comfort in the knowledge that he has the support of the PEOPLE.

The discussion which will continue in the days and weeks to come must be informed by our leaders, especially the academics. The line between the sovereign right of Barbados to protect its borders and its obligation under the regional treaty is a narrow line but a line nevertheless.


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  1. Mike Ashby
    I am not following what you are saying.
    I am sure if you read many of my contributions on this illegal immigration issue you will understand my thinking on the issues

    I am prepare to mount a challenge to the nonsense that political scumbag & whore Knight Templar/Dark Knight/Hog Squeal is posting.

    My main concern about this illegal immigration issue is to limit the amount of unwanted scumbags & parasites into Barbados.I make no apologies to anyone I have no problem whatsoever with my Black Caribbean brothers & sisters.I said it before & I will say it again,I hope the authorities go easy on my Black Caribbean brothers & sisters,but deal harshly with others.

    I hope not one stinking immigrant benefits from the amnesty.

    The next group of people we are going to target is the Chinese.

    Knight Templar/Dark Knight/Hog Squeal have you gone silent.I am awaiting a reply from you.

  2. reluctant nonbeliever Avatar
    reluctant nonbeliever

    Once again “negroman” betrays himself.

    You can all see that he cares nothing about illegal immigration per se.

    He just loathes anyone who isn’t black.

    Anyone so full of hysterical rage must be one very weak, frightened and sad little guy.

    Or girl…

  3. reluctant nonbeliever Avatar
    reluctant nonbeliever

    I should add that unlike the pathetic negroman but like most normal Bajans I am in favour of strict, properly and fairly-managed immigration controls.

    All nations – but especially small heavily-populated contries like ours – have the right and the duty to protect their borders.

    But immigration laws should be enforced impartially, without regard to skin colour, ethnicity or religious affiliation.

    Incidentally, I wonder how many BU readers have friends/family who currently reside illegally, or below the official radar, in the USA?


  4. reluctant nonbeliever
    Are you comparing Barbados with the USA? There are persons in USA that owns farms bigger than Barbados. I met a guy who’s farm is 210 sq mls, Barbados is only 166 sq mls. It is only if you know the destructive nature of some people that you would know where NM coming from. On the other hand many of the blacks in Guyana have bajan roots but I haven’t met an indo-guyanese who have relatives in barbados unless they migrated from Guyana some years ago.
    Indo-guyanese intention is to survive even if it means taking you out.


  5. It seems Mr. Wickham has joined the fray in this immigration debate.Still nothing substantive with the same argument of letting anyone come in.Can none of these ‘regionalists’ grab logic ?

    “by PETER WICKHAM

    PEOPLE & THINGS has been silent during May because there is often a need for one’s “pen” to rest and recuperate as this weekly effort has a tendency to exhaust the intellect.

    There is never a good time to take a break and as fate would have it, the Prime Minister announced his immigration initiative around the same time that this commentary was suspended, and the opportunity to comment via this medium was missed.

    Naturally, I have strong views on the issue of both immigration and migration within the context of the Caribbean Community and it is also obvious that these views are not necessarily consistent with those of the Government of Barbados. Against this background, over the next two weeks, People & Things will attempt to place this issue in context and thereafter suggest an alternative approach to this troublesome issue.

    The major substantive issue that needs to be noted as one attempts to grapple with this complex issue is the extent to which the substance of it has been overtaken by rhetoric and this can be blamed equally on the Prime Minister’s PR machinery and on the manner in which the Press has reported the matter.

    There was an emphasis placed on the need for some illegal immigrants here to “get out” while less attention was paid to a policy which is for the most part reasonable and grants some illegal immigrants the facility to convert their illegal status and proceed on a path that can ultimately lead to full citizenship.

    One can speculate about the Prime Minister’s reasons for placing the emphasis where he did, but it is clear that he has chosen the path that appears most popular locally, but has the potential to further inflame perceptions that Barbados is not the most welcoming place for persons who come from some corners of the Caribbean.

    The pattern that Mr Thompson has followed here is consistent with his previous statement that people from the region who wish to move here are “ever so welcome, but should wait for a call” since this also speaks to a policy that is logical but could perhaps have been framed differently. As a result, he has inadvertently encouraged a perception that he is not exactly thrilled about these regional developments and while he might disagree, it is the considered opinion of this author that this perception does little to improve the already negative perception of Barbadians regionally.

    In the final analysis, the Prime Minister’s initiative is essentially an amnesty which is a universally accepted tool that is used across the world to address problems of large numbers of illegal immigrants who reside in various countries.

    Nowhere is this more common than in the United States where several Barbadians and people from other parts of the Caribbean have benefited from similar amnesty initiatives and later become fully legitimate members of that society. The amnesty acknowledges the fact that people might come to a country illegally but once integrated into that society begin to make a contribution and develop familial linkages, which it is generally considered inhumane to sever after many years.

    Although there is some debate over the extent to which the amnesty rewards an illegal immigrant for breaking the law, there is some agreement internationally that it is an effective tool to respond to the problem of large numbers of illegal immigrants whose illegal status is a social problem in and of itself.

    It is also important to appreciate the extent to which public opinion in Barbados supports the grant of an amnesty, although it might surprisingly not support the conditions that the Prime Minister has imposed.

    In a 2005 NATION/CADRES survey, the single largest number of Barbadians (55 per cent) said that the felt that Government should grant an amnesty to all illegal immigrants who were presently in Barbados and thereafter get “tough” with those who seek to enter illegally. A further 12 per cent agreed with this author’s perspective that Barbados should fully liberalise the movement of Caribbean nationals who wish to reside here.

    This demonstrates that Barbadian public opinion is supportive of the grant of an amnesty; however, one notes the distinction between the preference for a wide amnesty to cover the large numbers present in Barbados and the considerably more restrictive amnesty that has been granted by Thompson administration. ”

    ———————————–
    All of these so called ‘regionalists’ have absolutely NO interest in protecting Barbados’ sovereignty or its’ borders.All they care about is selling their product to the wider Caribbean at the expense of our country,talk about traitors.

    The average Barbados tax payer is now required to pay for Healthcare & Education for even illegal immigrant children as I’ve said before,Minister Suckhoo even confirms this.Where does all of this bullsh*t end.


  6. I forgot to include the article by Minister Suckhoo.

    http://barbadosadvocate.com/newsitem.asp?more=local&NewsID=3911

    “Children have a right to schooling, health care

    5/28/2009

    Minister of Youth, Family and Sports, Dr. Esther Byer-Suckoo, wants to ensure that all children in Barbados โ€“ regardless of their legal status โ€“ are getting proper schooling and are not subject to sexual exploitation.

    Speaking at the re-launch of The National Committee for Monitoring the Rights of the Child, the Minister said that while the status of illegal immigrants must be the concern of the Government and the Immigration Department, Barbados still has to ensure that all children in the country have access to education and health care.

    โ€œOne of our concerns speaking of childrenโ€™s rights is the issue of the children of illegal immigrants. We have children in this country โ€“ not from any one country โ€“ who do not have proper legal status and some of them are not in schools. Children need to be schooled, need to be afforded health care โ€ฆโ€ she said.

    While statistics are not available concerning how many illegal immigrants exist in Barbados and therefore how many children may or may not be receiving education
    despite their legal status, the Minister charged the committee to work with other agencies to ensure these issues are dealt with. She noted that it is her worry that in these uncertain economic times those children may โ€˜fall through the cracksโ€™ and be subject to sexual abuse.

    โ€œWe need to be concerned of sexual exploitation in this time of economic recession,โ€ she told those assembled. โ€œIf a family is desperate they can resort to desperate measures, and we know in other cultures that sexual exploitation can occur and we must be vigilant to ensure that we stop it and the legislation is in place to protect the children and punish offenders.โ€”
    ———————————–

    I understand about protecting Children but this is getting ridiculous.This coupled with some regionalists talking about Barbados creating a deportation repatriation fund.If our social services become so strained that they will soon cease to exist I wonder where “Caricom nationals” will go then ?


  7. Are we seeing the enbd of the benefits and services that we worked so hard to achieve? I am not surprised, I was reluctantly expecting this to happen. We loyal bajans MUST putour feet down and say “enough is enough.” we MUST demonstrate in public and let the administrators see that we are TOTALLY dis-satisfied. RISE UP BAJANS AND FIGHT FOR YOUR COUNTRY


  8. “Dark Knight”, “Hog Squeal”, “Knight Templar” are all Henderson Bovell. So don’t blame Silly Sylvan.

    These are his stock-in-trade and I would know as I came into contact with him four years ago and he is one dangerous, deficient, attention-seeking, morally currupt man who trades – not on qualifications or intelligence – but on the fact that he is a former Head Boy of Alleyne School. I am a victim of his callous and fiendish behaviour.

    Ask Sir Roy about him.

    Ask Hamilton Lashley.

    Ask David Thompson.

    Ask Clyde Mascoll.

    Read the sentence structure and the mixed train of thought and, of course, the fixation with the law (a frustrated dunce).

    What more can we expect from someone who was Chairman of the NAB and a Consultant but who has now reverted (he was a waitress – according to Owen Arthur – at Almond Beach before Sir Roy saved him) to his former status of being a Messenger/Driver in Miss Mottley’s office?

    What do we expect from such a depraved character?


  9. Scout, If you all start to act up the Guyana Defence Force will be sent to quell the rebellion.

  10. Knight Templar Avatar
    Knight Templar

    Highly respected regional academic, Sir Ronald Saunders, is the lastest to add his voice to the growing list of intellectuals who are disappointed in David Thompson and feel that he poses a tremendous threat to regional integration.

    Sir Ronald therefore adds legitimacy to what has been said by other intellectuals, such as Professor Frank Alleyne; Professor Girvan and Dr. Joseph – the latter of who has openly called for a reshuffle of the quasi-CARICOM Cabinet.

    In essence, highly respected regional academics are of the view that David Thompson should be fired because he lacks the capacity to drive to process forward and is only a pedestrian – at a time when intellect and leadership is required.

    Few were surprised when Regional Heads choose the Guyana President to lead them in talk with President Obama. T

    hat Barbados has ended up with a Prime Minister who no one has confidence in (perhaps with the exception of Clico and local big business) is not surprising to the BLP and Barbadians who are capable of independent thought.

    But while regional academics respect the fact that David Thompson is the duly selected Prime Minister of Barbados, they would hardly have needed to rely on the fact that David Thompson now calls sick-old-men out of retirement from active politics to help him run the country โ€“ in order to come to the logical conclusion that he (David Thompson) is an: โ€œoverrated nick-wick, who does not know what he is doing.

    David Thompson has now diminished the Office of Prime Minister by openly canvassing to political parties, which his political advisor are working for, such as in the Cayman Islands.

    But since David has confessed that he needs help managing the Barbados economy, how can he be expected to give direction or guidance to 15 regional economies within a CSME?

    David Thompson may have called on โ€œretired-old-menโ€ to help him manage the Barbados economy during the recent budget but regional academics had long called for a reshuffle of the quasi-CARICOM Cabinet.

    David Thompson merely proves why Professor Girvan and Dr. Joseph must be taken seriously when they issue early warnings, in the regional interest.

    It must be clear to even DLP Members, despite their seriously allergic reaction to thinking – that being automatically assigned lead responsibility for the CSME, by virtue of being Prime Minister of Barbados โ€“ in Thompsonโ€™s case – merely confirms that while Clicoโ€™s millions can help you buy the Barbados government โ€“ money cannot buy intelligence.

    Little wonder that the list of local and regional academics who are expressing no-confidence in David Thompsonโ€™s intellectual shortcomings and by extension โ€“ the severe threat he poses to regional development, (in particular, the CSME and regional integration) is getting longer quickly.

    Under DLP rule, Barbados has again been Dโ€™valued and is again the laughing stock of the region.

    It has reached such an all-time low – that Regional Heads have to ask David Thompson if he has nothing to say, when matters of economics and the global financial crisis, are being discussed.

    David Thompson is a joke and will be the worst Prime Minister Barbados has ever had.

    Under DLP rule, it is not a case of Barbados being poorly managed, but whether it is being governed at all.

    The people of the region, including within the DLP โ€“ were calling for academics to speak out. They now are!

    The question is, having asked regional academics to break their silence, what action are the โ€œpeopleโ€ going to take โ€“ now that regional academics are sounding the alarm?

    Surely it must occur to all right-thinking people that faced with the worst economic crisis in 80 years, David Thompson is in the wrong place and the wrong time.

    If you are as patriotic as you purport, then act in the national interest. There is a better way! It was and will be better with the Bees, by far.

    According to highly respected regional academics, when strong, proven economic leadership is required, the BLP is The Right Team for the job.


  11. If Barbados is gonna have immigration for economic purposes, let the immigrants come and work for 3-6 months and return home. You don’t need to be a genius to forsee the negative social impact that will result from all the overcrowding. Barbados will soon be flooded with more infectious diseases. 166sq miles compared to 83000 reseouces rich sq miles. Does that make any damn sense? Never mind the so-called ‘intellectual’ whores who have to be politically correct to maintain some fake sense of relativity and importance. All over the world everyone is constantly trampling on the rights and sovereignty of the Black Man and to make matters worse, the black Judases amongst us are championing the call. When the immigrants come they too see themselves as above the Blacks and to you Black people who think that you have reached some kind of status in Barbados and that this issue does not affect you, you’re fooling yourselves because at the end of the day you are still seen as irrelevant and the poorest non-black immigrant will be seen as more important than you. Barbados is too small to accommodate this blatant bullshit. I say to welcome them give them what temporary assistance you can and then show them the door. Don’t let them set up shop there. That goes for ALL.

    @Reluctant whothe f u are?………You are nothing but a fu..ing MENTAL MIDGIT. You never have anything of substance to add. Everytime you pop up on this blog you are constantly nit picking . Why don’t you go over to Fake Press like the little puppy that you are? Were you born in Barbados? Because Bim opened her gates to you you think that she should open up to everyone else? Why the hell you don’t leave Barbados and allow some foreigner to take your place? You calling yourself a normal bajan —-a group that is comprised of nothing but asses and followers, can’t even think for themselves and comprise about 90% of Bajans. You useless eater!


  12. Question for DK (who is an ASS)

    I heard that one of the reasons why the CXC marks have not come back as yet is because so many persons have sat the exam that is not enough room to place them in a school.

    What the FU## was your Party thinking?

    How could you do this to YOUR OWN?

    Are you mad!

    We are bursting at the seams …… you will never retain leadership of this country any time soon.

  13. Knight Templar Avatar
    Knight Templar

    Hopi // June 4, 2009 at 9:51 am

    If Barbados is gonna have immigration for economic purposes, let the immigrants come and work for 3-6 months and return home.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    That is precisely what the Guest Worker Protocol, which the BLP left was all about.

    We must not re-invent the wheel.


  14. Wunnah sick sick sick sick. SO LIED!


  15. @anonymous @10:05

    About 3700 students sat the 11 plus this year. Not so long ago (10 years ago) over 4000 sat the 11 plus. The number has been dropping every year! Even with the loss of Louis Lynch Secondary, there are still more school places than students!!

    Barbados’ population is actually on the verge of demographic collapse unless we start having more children. Before anyone starts up, this is NOT an argument for or against the Government’s immigration policy.


  16. If this is so why are teahers claiming that there are teaching 45 children in one class ……..

    Who is lying? Are we blind? Why is the Metropolitan bursting at the seams?


  17. KT/……but is this exactly what happened under the BLP? Why are there so many foreign’law-breakers’ in Barbados today? Did the BLP uphold the law of the land?

  18. Knight Templar Avatar
    Knight Templar

    Hi Mr. Hopi Sir,

    Reflect on the humane amnesty offered by the BLP in 2005 and view that in the context of page 48, Item 3.12 of the Auditor General’s 2008 Report and you will get your answer.

    You asked: “Did the BLP uphold the law of the land?”

    Yes! Here is how:

    It is the BLP that purchase millions in equipment for the police; bought millions in surveillance equipment, bought new boats for the coast guard, then there was the Joint Regional Communication Centre (implemented for Cricket World Cup) on Migrant Workers.

    Do not forget the Guest Worker Protocol; the Border Control Management System, which was spearheaded by the BLP and captures everyone who enters and leaves Barbados.

    Did I mention the Advanced passenger manifest (APM)?

    How about increased security at the air and sea port. You cannot even get near the departure area further more with any liquid.

    Hopi, my suggestion – if you are travelling – wear slippers; a jeans and a tea shirt. That is just to emphasise the security protocols and system that the BLP either put in place or were going to improve on, but then – Clico’s millions and the rest is history.

    We have: “the DLP’ inhumane deportation doctrine,” with has similarities to how Hitler treated the jews and America – persons at GITMO.


  19. @KT…………I have not read the AG’s 2008 report pg 48. item 3.12 and furthermore theory and practise are 2 completely different animals.

    If the BLP upheld the law by purchasing mils of $ in police and surveillance equipment…..and then a Border Control Management System which ‘captures’ everyone who enters and leave…., why is there still a problem with “illegal immigrant law-breakers” in Barbados today? Or did they only now become illegal lawbreakers under this new admin?

    Not getting near the departure area with liquids is irrelevant and has noting to do with illegal immigrant lawbreakers in Barbados. (And you don’t want me to go into that now).

    To compare the deportation or repatriation of illegal law-breakers in Barbados, to anything evil act done by europeans or the god-defying treatment of innocent arabs/muslims at gitmo or anywhere else is truly worthy of 100 lashes on a naked ass with the cat-o-nine tail dipped in hog piss.

  20. Knight Templar Avatar
    Knight Templar

    If the BLP upheld the law by purchasing mils of $ in police and surveillance equipmentโ€ฆ..and then a Border Control Management System which โ€˜capturesโ€™ everyone who enters and leaveโ€ฆ., why is there still a problem with โ€œillegal immigrant law-breakersโ€ in Barbados today? Or did they only now become illegal lawbreakers under this new admin?

    ++++++++++++++++++++

    You tell me how you could now have 30,000 illegal people in Barbados between 2005 and 2008, especially given the BLP’s humane amnesty of 2005?

    Something is just not adding up. Did the DLP lie again?

    Hopi,

    As I understand it, the Barbados Labour Party seems to be calling for a national discussion on managed migration.

    It also seems clear that the BLP is of the view that it is important for Barbadians to understand all of the issues surrounding what can be an emotive subject, especially in the absence of clear, enlightened leadership from Thompson and his tired and stale DLP weaklins.

    Let serious dialogue begin, Mr. PM.

  21. reluctant nonbeliever Avatar
    reluctant nonbeliever

    @scout

    As I said, immigration controls matter much more in small nations like ours. I support strict immigration controls. I also think the PM is on the right track.

    What I don’t support is that any particular ethnic group should be singled out or “targeted” (negroman’s racist term).

    @hopi

    You and negroman make me laugh. You remind me of my neighbour’s little neutered dogs. You yap a lot, but have no teeth.


  22. @Reluctant nofu..kingbody…….I support this, I don’t support that….you’re nothing but a vapid lap dog listening to what other so called ‘intellectual’ whores spew forth and then repeat it as if you actually got a brain. Why don’t you take those 2 pins out ya diapers and stick em’ in ya eyeballs, ya magot!

  23. Knight Templar Avatar
    Knight Templar

    Given the David Thompson inhumane doctrine on deportation of Caribbean people from this country, Barbadians are joined by others within CARICOM and across the globe โ€“ who are saying that they never ever could have believed that Errol Barrow great political handy-work would become a shadow of itself โ€“ with its current leader being on the receiving end of numbers versions of no-confidence motions, from regional academics, regional respected journalists, his peers within CARICOM and the Opposition Barbados Labour Party, all questioning his competence, judgment and inability to lead.

    After the death of Mr. Barrow, the DLP began a long and slow process of undermining itself.

    Its strengths, like the seriousness it brought to national debate and to addressing social and economic issues, early on, became weaknesses, and it lost its feel for reading Barbadians and Caribbean people, having therefore to rely on political gimmicks, lies and deception and insulting people by seeking to appeal to the dark side and play on their emotions.

    In his โ€œMirror Image Speech, โ€œMr. Barrow warned Barbadians not to allow politicians to buy them with their own money.

    If only he could have known his Party would one day be the one Barbadians have to protect themselves against!

    It is the DLP that promised Teacher, Nurse and Policemen more money; interest free loans and duty free cars, and which made a number of other ridiculous promises it knew were unworkable.

    Instead of leading this country and CARICOM to increased security and prosperity, David Thompson is following other failed political institutions and leaders like Erskine Sandiford, who โ€“ in record time – were able to move their country from prosperity to crisis, thereby creating economic pain and having therefore to knock on the door of the IMF, as Sandiford did between 1991 and 1994 and Thompson is now doing.

    The DLPโ€™s brand is therefore one of deception, betrayal and ugliness.

    Still, there was a time when the DLP had vast numbers of loyal supporters, but it managed to lose them through a series of strategic lies and gimmicks, which started in 1991-1994 and continues today.

    Truth is, to compensate for its intellectual weakness, and political incompetence – the DLP turns to political gimmicks, lies; deceit and betrayal.

    The DLPโ€™s desperation to hold onto state power at all cost, sees it resorting to lies and denying the Opposition access to the State owned television station.

    Unfortunately the DLP has unlimited access to the media but absolutely nothing important to say.


  24. Reluctant Non-Believer
    Who resurrected a dumb ass imbecile like you.Go back to sleep.You remind me of that foolish old woman J always nit-picking at trivia.The two of you are the nit – pickers on the blog.

    Reluctant Non-Believer do not come here now at this moment after the government has introduced this new immigration policy and try to lend support by stating that we need a managed immigration policy.I can remember quite clearly that you a dishonest individual was constantly in opposition to any managed immigration initiative.Why come now and support such a measure.This shows the type of warped traitors that Barbados has to deal with in persons like yourself.Do not jump on the bandwagon because we will push you off.

    I have not read anything worthwhile coming from you and nit-picker J.

    Knight Templar
    When will you add something of substance to this debate.Knight Templar the political whore you have repeated yourself over & over again saying the same thing all the time.Why don’t you with your pathetic self carry the debate forward by adding something worthwhile to it.

    Knight Templar you are intellectually incapacitated that nothing substantial is coming from you on this illegal immigration issue.You have convinced no one but your pathetic self.

    Knight Templar go bury your whoring self in Mia or Owen lap.You are a political whore.


  25. And furthermore Reluctant Nobody…….You are lower than the maggots that feast on carrion. You were the same dog that went on Fake Press and told them to dump BU and now you have returned to BU to blog. How brown is your tongue right now?


  26. Sir Templar, looking for a resonse from you over on “Do We Really Have A Land Use Policy?”


  27. Could the almost daily shooting incidents we are seeing be partly or wholly attributed to the presence of non national criminal elements in our society e.g. vincentians,jamaicans etc?

    Does the police have a grip on this situation with these criminals?

    Tonight we hear of a man gunned down in the Orleans in the middle of the day in a crowded neighbourhood.

    This is starting to look like trinidad or jamaica.

    I hope this illegal immigration sweep start very,very soon and ignorant bajans who are habouring these criminals understand the danger they are putting this country in and start putting country first and inform the immigration department anonymously
    about the whereabouts of these illegals.


  28. Having read some of the previous comments regarding B’dos immigration policy, I’m am struggling to understand what the issue is..

    I don’t agree with some of the name calling, political bashing, etc in previous treads as these aren’t the issues.

    The issue is… Crime is crime regardless of how you slice it and let’s not fool ourselves, illegal immigration is a crime and taken very seriously in many other international countries.

    Not sure why folks would persue the argument that B’dos new ammesty goes against CSME spirit… Nowhere in the CSME did it state that nationals can go where they please, when they please… it all works on a system of managed immigration via need of skills, work permits, etc so to argue that addressing illegal immigration is anti-CSME is a slap to the intelligence of any Caricom with an ounce of common sense.

    Fact is, we must tackle illegal immigration with a double edge sword… from the source country whose nationals are leaving and the target countries which are being affected.

    Barbados is doing what many other international countries are doing with addressing illegal immigrants and even more since they are offering an ammesty rather than simpy kicking folks out. So I’m baffled why some would argue that what is happening is inhumane.. What should we be doing to make this a more human process I dare ask?

    The problem in being a ‘carpet’ for many years as B’dos was with respect to letting illegal immigration numbers go uncheck is this.. when you no longer wish to be a carpet, many will cry foul.

    Now to the second half of the equation:
    Gov’ts such as the Guyanese should be supporting B’dos move to address a too long overlooked criminal activity and doing more to show its disapproval of its nationals resorting to illegal immigration.

    I understand the Guyanese Gov’t (and other Gov’ts) situation though… they must seem to be for the people and they want to be re-elected at some point… but sometimes being a leader means showing tough love and letting those who you govern know that what they are doing is not right (I’m going to assume here that most folks will agree that illegal immigration is not right!)


  29. Before the technology was available, it was possible for some people to keep relatively quiet and to appear to be fairly intelligent persons….

    ..unfortunately for many of us, the technologies – in the form of the blogs; the call-in-shows, etc- have a way of exposing the fact that the ‘king has no clothes’….

    How can anyone – with any level of intelligence at all, -complain about the Government of Barbados enforcing the LAWS against persons who blatantly broke our laws?

    …and what kind of fuzzy logic is it, that says that anyone who can break the law undetected for 5 years deserves to be rewarded with a pardon for their efforts?

    …..so if someone can get away with raping your daughter for 5 years – should we just let him continue freely after that? …or does this logic only apply to other people’s daughters?

    While I am on it, someone should do Hoyos a favor and remove him from moderating on VOB and CBC…..He used to seem intelligent before…. ….similarly, the BLP supporters on the Blog should probably rethink their strategies to see if they are achieving the results intended.
    …I would humbly suggest not!

    It may be useful to be less aggressive at a time when the memories of your regime are still so fresh… The Bush man would humbly suggest that a reasoned, constructive critique of government policy by recent insiders would be far more effective in rebuilding confidence in the BLP (if that was possible)

    The current approach is about as effective as the cussing and threats that dominated the blogs before January 2007….


  30. The Guyanese Government consist of a bunch of thieves who rob the public treasury of the funds that would have kept many of the Guyanese now in Barbados illegally, in their country if it was invested intelligently. We are talkinbg about a Government that has done nothing to reports that the Guyana Pension funds that was invested in CLICO was withdrawn and deposited in a private account in the US.

    Annalee Davis and others examines this situation narrowly, and refuse to widen their curiosity to examine the reasons why people are fleeing a resource rich large nation for a small Island economically dependant on Tourism. If this was Burnham in Power these same people would be screaming at him over the exodus of Guyanese. There is a backwardness in this Caribbean discourse that impel some to attach labels of racism against black people for their conscientious positions, while giving the Nelson eye to apartheid like attitudes by others. That is why we remain at the back. There are too many idiots at the front genuflecting before the new Massas in the region.


  31. Certainly agree that Pat Hoyos comes over as a lout on air.

    Is it us or is George Brathwaite soon to be Doctor when he finishes his research a little fuzzy with his arguments?

    Our sources have confirmed that there has been no significant inflow of undocumented workers into the Immigration Department,

    Several ways we can interpret this and they are all pointing to disrespect for our laws.

    We want to see if the respective consuls, Faria included calling for the illegals to report to the Immigration Unit.

    Does the government have plans to beef up the resources of the Immigration Unit?


  32. Heard it on the night news that 4 seasons is to restart in August. I hope that BAJANS get the first pick. Quite recently jamaican workers blocked a work site and remanded that they be emplyed in place of foreigners. Only this week in Trinidad a similar thing occurred and they blocked the work siteuntil the matter was resolved . I want to see if bajans got enough balls to demonstrate if preference is not given to bajans first when they start picking staff. PEOPLE WAKE UP, SEE WHAT’S GOING ON

  33. reluctant nonbeliever Avatar
    reluctant nonbeliever

    @hopi

    Must be tough to have no power and influence in the real world. I even have some sympathy for your impotent rage, you poor little fool.

    Just for the record, I urged BFP to dump its link to this once-respectable site until it banned inadequate racist losers like you and your bedfellow, negro”man”.

    Didn’t say I wouldn’t still come here to yank your chains.

  34. reluctant nonbeliever Avatar
    reluctant nonbeliever

    Want to add that there are still some interesting topics covered here – the recent post on the use of agricultural land, for example.

    BU – I honestly believe the site would be better if you moderated some of the hate-speeches from a few of your bloggers.


  35. David said:

    Does the government have plans to beef up the resources of the Immigration Unit?
    ——————————————

    I mentioned this as one of the things The Barbados Government WILL have to do in order for the policy to come into force.Whatever resources are needed the Government should definitely throw it at this problem due to the long-term effects that it will have internally on the country.There should be no effort speared at increasing the immigration enforcement units even if resources are temporarily pulled away from either the Defence force or the police force.What will also be key is tracking the individuals whom are also deported.Biometrics upon entry from high-risk countries could go a long way,but isn’t feasible because of price.

    I think what is a much better idea is having a Caricom Immigration Database that each country within the RSS system can have access to.It is obvious that Barbados is NOT the only country that is feeling the effects of illegal immigration & knowing if someone tried in one of the other well off islands would place Barbados at a huge advantage in turning high-risk individuals of illegal immigration back.Something like the Schengen Information System which is a resource that is shared by all the participating countries.


  36. The problems I find with CSME in general is that in theory it certainly wasn’t well thought out or have the necessary protections in place considering most of its member States are Island nations of varying degrees.

    I also see no regional framework for protections of island states concerning illegal immigration & limited resources,but most importantly there is no regional framework for Security when it comes to CSME.When I look at NAFTA & THE EU & how they function there is always a baseline Immigration Database for these ‘integration’ projects to access for each Member state.

    This should have been the next critical step before even thinking of approving CSME.While also shared resources are used to prop up the lesser economically viable Caricom member states before even approving the skilled portion of CSME.This is why I completely agree with the Prime Minister’s approach since some other Caricom member state’s don’t appear to “get it”.

    No one can build a House without the necessary foundation.


  37. @NB, and other like-minded, 6/3

    what Iโ€™m referencing in the ease by which you seem to be able to insult and characterize others. I have in fact read many of your treads and they do contain some valid and salient points. However, your choice of characterizations of others takes away from your scholarship. We understand when there are ill-feelings, believe me, we get it. However, the critical issue here is that we have to a coherent immigration policy:

    1. If the Barbados government do not address the immigration situation, it would be a dereliction of its duty

    2. The provisions made to accommodate the 2007 world cup were based on โ€œSun-Downโ€ legislations.

    3. The โ€˜freedom of movementโ€™ provision contained in the 2001 RTC and the CSME provides for the deportation of anyone (Caribbean Nationals) staying longer than the 6-month period without the necessary documentation. These provisions donโ€™t apply to Chinese, or the US/EU/CAN/Latin bunch of undocumented.

    4. To use the CSME as the basis to criticize Barbados current immigration policies is dishonest. The significant numbers the proposed policy seeks to address did not enter Barbados as a result of any of the provisions contained within the RTC or CSME.

    5. It is the responsibility of Bajans and the Barbados government to either accept or change the โ€˜flood-gate immigration trendโ€™. We are not stupid and blind. We can see where this is heading.

    6. Xenophobia and โ€œmanage immigrationโ€ is not the same thing.

    7. In the spirit of CSME/RTC, other Caribbean governments (e.g. Gonsalves SVG; Jagdeo Guy.) have a responsibility to work with Barbados to help accommodate their fleeing masses. This is one of the PRIMARY reasons why Jamaica, Bahamas and Antigua etc. did not want to sign-on initially. I am very surprised that Jamaicans would now be complaining.

    8. When Mr. Jagdeo took over leadership of Guyana, one of his primary goals was to ensure that Indo-Guyanese had the opportunity to โ€˜do backโ€™ to Afro-Guyanese what they had done under the leadership of Burnham, for the same (28 years) or a longer period of time. Rather than work with the other groups, his government embarked on a policy of disenfranchisement that has resulted in the mass exodus of Guyanese, particularly, Indo-Guyanese.

    +++++++++++++++++++
    @JC, 6/3

    I would like if it so easy to say this is the fault of the BLP, or DLP, that is not the case. Both of these groups have taken โ€˜criminalโ€™ liberties in auctioning off the lively-hood of present and future Bajans. It is now up to us to ensure they donโ€™t get away with it or are in position to do it again.

    Thanks to those of you who are staying on point.


  38. And what may I ask did African Guyanese do to East Indians in Guyana that Jagdeo feels he must pay back. Let me set the record straight here when British Guiana was given independence in 1966 most of the East Indians were on the Bookers, and Jessel/Sandbach Parker Sugar Estates, and thus not qualified to hold top positions in the new Guyana Government. I am tired of hearing how PM Burnham did not give them jobs, when the fact is they were not qualified, and let me say if PM Burnham was really such a bad man he would have never main streamed them into every aspect of Guyanese life, plus make every religious holiday in the Hindu and Moslem religions national holidays in Guyana. The problem with the East Indian is that he refuses to give up Mother India for Guyana, Trinidad and Tobago and Suriname, and that is where the problem lies.


  39. The mass exodus of Jagdeo’s mattee is an indicator that his government is not good, why would his coolie mattee leave if the was doing a wonderful job. Jagdeo is bad, and I can’t even call him aman, for I don’t know if he is even anatomically correct.


  40. @Reluctant Nobody…………
    Right now I know that you’re looking in a full length body mirror and sobbing at your poor pathetic lapdog arse.

    One thing I’ll guarantee you is that the rug will soon be pulled out from under ‘your real world’ ya damn yard-dog! Only yard-dogs carry bones from one yard to another. You actually got the damn nerve to come back on BU after saying to remove BU. Persona non phu..ing grata like you.Why don’t you post a link on Fake Press about immigration issues in Barbados and let your puny brain drool all over it.

  41. Knight Templar Avatar
    Knight Templar

    The one in disguise who has most to benefit from:

    The David Thompson Doctrine on Inhumane Deportation,” and most to gain from it at the same time, wrote:

    “you have repeated yourself over & over again saying the same thing all the time.”

    +++++++++++++++++

    That is yet another in a never-ending-series of (induced) self-confessions that the DLP is “intellectually weak” and “politically imcompetent.”

    What defined good public policy. Take notes DLP bloggers:

    (1) clarity of purpose;

    (2) certainty of incidence;

    (3) consistency and

    (4) cost-effectiveness.

    Sorry, I do not have the time to explain each one now.

    BUt, that is why the BLP’s Immigration Policy followed two fundamental core principles:

    (1) Immigrant must be treated in a humane way, and

    (2) Immigrant must be respect for the rule of law, hence: “The BLP’ Protol on Managed Migration.”

    +++++++++++++++

    A Policy is a policy. When you deviate from a policy position, then there is a shift in policy.

    That the DLP does not knwo this, is why regional local and region academics are having sleepless nights.

    Being a duly elected government – with the assistance of Clico’s millionsssss, mean only that: that the DLP is the government and that Barbados is on a free fall from prosperity to crisis.

    But, even with Clico’s millionssssss, the DLP is still “intellectally weak” and “Politically incompetent,” hence the concern of regional academics, the disappointment of the Barbadian electorate, and the crisis in the Barbados economy.

  42. Knight Templar Avatar
    Knight Templar

    Jay // June 4, 2009 at 11:21 pm

    The problems I find with CSME in general is that in theory it certainly wasnโ€™t well thought out or have the necessary protections in place considering most of its member States are Island nations of varying degrees.

    I also see no regional framework for protections of island states concerning illegal immigration & limited resources,but most importantly there is no regional framework for Security when it comes to CSME

    ++++++++++++++++++++

    The above is pure Hog Poop and nasty stink bombs cause by ingorance.

    1. What is the Regional Stabilization Fund about?

    2. What is the Joint Regional Communication Centre all about about?

    3. What is the Border Control Management System about?

    Please, stop demonstrating your ignorance and misleading others in the process. I do not care if you are B or D!

    Hog Poop is just that!!!!

  43. Knight Templar Avatar
    Knight Templar

    Here is more:

    Article 158. The Development Fund

    1. There is hereby established a Development Fund for the purpose of providing financial or technical assistance to disadvantaged countries, regions and sectors.

    2. Subject to the provisions of this Article and relevant provisions of this Treaty, the Community Council, in collaboration with COFAP, shall:

    (a) determine the status, composition and functions of the Development Fund;

    (b) determine the contributions of the Member States to the Development Fund.

    3. The Development Fund may accept subventions from public or private sector entities of the Member States or from other entities external to the Community.

    Subventions shall not be accepted nor applied by the Development Fund on conditions which discriminate against Member States, regions or sectors except in accordance with the rovisions of this Treaty.

  44. Knight Templar Avatar
    Knight Templar

    Again, here is more:

    Article 225. Security Exceptions

    Nothing in this Treaty shall be construed:

    (a) as requiring any Member State to furnish information, the disclosure of which it considers contrary to its essential security interests;

    (b) as preventing any Member State from taking any action which it considers necessary for the protection of its essential security interests:

    (i) relating to the supply of services carried out directly or indirectly for the
    purpose of provisioning a military establishment;

    (ii) in time of war or other emergency in international relations; or

    (c) as preventing any Member State from taking any action in pursuance of its obligations for the maintenance of international peace and security.

    ++++++++++++++++++

    Tell me, silly, would (c) above not include a country’s border, what is above the land; under the land, its sea space and, yes – immigration.

    ++++++++++++++++

    You are misleading the BU family, but David remains silent, eventhough you have the temerity to challenge the most brilliant minds of our times, who worked to revise the Treaty of Chaguaramas.


  45. Here is the reason why Barbados is justified in getting serious with immigration. The Government of Guyana bust individual drug peddlars at the airports who are mostly black or non Indian. The Barons who are generally Indian Businessmen, are allowed to traffick on a whole sale basis, and when the US issues warrants for them they are released by Indian Judges placed in the High Court to protect Indian Criminals and jail black law breakers or anyone black that the PPP does not like.

    *************************************


    Six Guyanese guilty in huge Bajan drug bust

    By Stabroek staff | June 5, 2009 in

    Local News -Narcotics had been secreted in logs (Barbados Nation)

    Six Guyanese who have been on a prolonged trial in Barbados on a charge of smuggling ganja and cocaine into that country in 2005 were yesterday found guilty and will be sentenced on June 15.

    Lemme Michael Campbell, 45, and his wife Somwattie Persaud, 40, both of 106 New Garden Street, Georgetown; Christopher Bacchus, 43, and his wife Dianne Bacchus, 37, both of Bay Gardens, Bayland, St Michael, Barbados; Wayne Gavin Green, 38, of North Ruimveldt, Georgetown and Bridgefield, St Thomas, and Rohan Shastri Rambarran, a 43-year-old businessman of Georgetown, Guyana, were on trial in the Number Four Supreme Court on six counts relating to a police seizure of hundreds of kilos of both cannabis and cocaine at a house in Bay Gardens, St Michael.

    All six had denied possession and trafficking in 91.3 kilos of cannabis and 119.4 kilos of cocaine on November 30, 2005, while Campbell and Rambarran had denied importing both cannabis and cocaine on November 29, 2005.

    Around 1.50 pm yesterday, the nine-member mixed jury walked back into court after deliberating for nearly three hours.

    The foreman, bearing a sheet of paper, rose and, when asked if the jury had reached unanimous verdicts with respect to each accused, replied yes.

    He then intoned 28 guilty verdicts. As he did, Somwattie Persaud started to silently cry and her husband held his head down. Rambarran started to fidget as if wanting to rise and speak.

    On hand, inside and outside the court, immigration officers waited, while friends of the six hovered in the courtyard of the court complex.

    โ€œThe prosecution is asking for an adjournment at this stage,โ€ said Director of Public Prosecutions Charles Leacock, QC, who led the prosecutionโ€™s team of Principal Crown Counsel Anthony Blackman and Principal Crown Counsel Wanda Blair.

    There was no objection from the defence attorneys and Justice Kaye Goodridge adjourned the matter until June 15.

    โ€œAnd the six accused are remanded in custody,โ€ she said, before thanking jurors, police, prison officers and other court staff for the work during the trial.

    The verdicts capped a marathon four-day summation which started last Friday and ended around 11 am yesterday, and more than 5,000 pages of evidence, submissions and arguments which were taken during the trial.

    Lawmen who testified said they got a tip and started surveillance at a construction site in Rowans Park, St George, where they saw a container of logs being off-loaded. The logs had been exported from Guyana but no one was held here.

    They then secretly followed a truck, after some of the logs were loaded onto it, to a house at Bay Gardens, St Michael.

    When they raided that house, they said, they caught Campbell, Green, and Christopher Bacchus unpacking parcels from hollowed-out logs and the women packing those parcels into suitcases.

    Drugs were also on the kitchen table and by the back door.

    They then picked up Rambarran from the Hilton Barbados after Campbell called his name as the ring leader.
    In their defence, Rambarran, Green, Campbell and Persaud denied any knowledge of the drugs, but Christopher and Dianne Bacchus said they were used and set up by Campbell and tied him, Rambarran and Green to the drugs at their house.

    Sir Richard Cheltenham, QC, and Shelly-Ann Seecharan appeared for Rambarran; Vonda Pile represented Christopher and Dianne Bacchus; Vincent Watson and Desmond Sands appeared for Green; while Ralph Thorne, QC, and Arthur Holder represented Campbell and Persaud.


  46. Ruel Daniels, I was thinking of trying to help you with your problem.(like when you see an Indian person , you blood perssure goes up) . I was suggesting South Africa but then the apartheid system done there. So you couldn’t go there and fit in there with one races so you wouldn’t have to mix with other races. Wuh yuh gon do now ? We can’t help yuh ..
    Burnham and his priviledged elite thought he could have state power on a permanent basis by rigging elections and continue to oppress the majority of people (indo-Guyanese) including having 98 per cent of civil service Afro. He and then Hoyte (who rigged even worse) got kicked out by their own disgruntled black supporters who voted with the communist -led PPP.
    Communist ! Get that . That means for everybody. For all races. The only thing the the Burnnamite PNC and apologists like you gat now is keep bleating: “Blame Jagdeo because the coolie man gun mek yuh slaves again” and try to pander to the majority black population in Barbados.But Bajans not stupid.They know wha Burnham/Hoyte did…
    Save yoursef a lot of time making a fool of yourself by realising the multi racial PPP in power for ever getting support increasingly from more Afro-Guyanese..


  47. I am now convinced that you are as racist as they come. your comment above proves this!

    That is why your communist party the ‘Pure Pussies Party’ have black people down there suffering; talking a lot of shite bout Burnham this and Burham that.

    What you fail to comprehend is that we are on to you and BLATANTLY refuse to be slaves to ANYONE!

    BURNHAM DEAD EVERY SINCE!

    By now you all should have undone all the wrongs that your crew claimed was bestowed on them by Burham’s party.

    Instead, you all harp on the past and REFUSE to cooperate amongst one another for the upliftment of your VERY OWN country!

    We are teaching our children about your caste shtistems and letting them know that there is not a damn thing wrong with being black!


  48. On another issue; Who is going to inherit that property that is in the Bayland which belongs to the Bachuses’.

    I am waiting patiently to hear who is in there …….. I remember when ‘Sherrif’ was jailed and EVERY THING was taken from him because he got them through illegal narcotics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  49. Bajan Born
    Stop playing up to bajans and want people believe that we supporting the influx of guyanese into this country. If the report on the small pace of guyanese to immigration is true, then we have a plan “B”. Tell ALL guyanese start travelling with their valid work permits or valid immigrant status documents because we will start stopping any guyanese we see on the road, bus, in a car, van truck or anywhere we see them, if they can’t prove their to bring on this rock, then straight to the airport and deport. Don’t get me wrong, if you are legal, we welcome you and treat you with the usual bajan hospitality that many of your fellow nationals received in the past.


  50. For years people from the region have been coming into Barbados and enjoying a good life, thanks to the hospitality of bajans. Now that these same regionalists think it is time they invade the country and claim rightful citizenship and we bajan protest, we are called by all nasty names. Should we not only open our island doors but those to our homes too? Some stupid bajan have done that and now many of the guyanese have not only accept the offer to move in but have taken over. Well, there are some stupid bajans but THANK GOD most of us are not that gullible. I see the influx of guyanese into Barbados as political refugees on the run.

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