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There is going to be a by-election in St. George North and some parties have already announced their candidates. I will not waste time speculating about the reasons – real or imagined- why the sitting MP Glyne Clarke has resigned from parliament and is taking up a diplomatic post in Canada. That is for the gossip posse.

What is important is that this by-election has come at a time when the country is at the lowest ever in its economic performance and arguably at its lowest moral ebb. Politically, the country is experiencing a rise in de facto totalitarianism, a trend being reflected around the world and led by the CCP (Chinese Communist Party).  

Coming just over two years after the main election in 2018, the electioneering engines should not require too much of a warm up, especially in this weather! The core question is: will it be an acid test for the government or merely some quinine for covid-19?

I will leave the bulk of the statistical political punditry to the other bloggers who may more be skilled at the enterprise of analyzing historical voting patterns and the like.  Interested readers can now make use of the site Caribbean Elections Website to fuel their punditry and speculations.

What I want to do, as succinctly as possible, is to state a few imperatives/hypotheses about the by-election.

THE RULING PARTY CANNOT AFFORD TO LOSE THIS BY-ELECTION.  If it does it will confirm how we “feel”, namely, that the populace is no longer enamoured with the BLP and its leader what with the serial malfeasances it has committed over the last two years. If it wins, the pundits will put it down to hard core support in the constituency.

Your guess is as good as mine, though, as to whether the BLP is committing political suicide by running BWU union boss, Toni Moore.  I know the BU historians will tell us about the union leaders who have run for political office over the years so I am looking forward to that rehash and the punditry that will follow.  My rough estimate is that about 70% – 75% of Nationnews Facebook comments cast Ms. Moore’s selection negatively. One commentator bluntly hoped she would lose.  But I concede that that is a small and perhaps irrelevant sample.  

THE PDP CANNOT AFFORD NOT TO FIELD A CANDIDATE IN THIS BY-ELECTION.  I have been following their Facebook communications and all other things considered, they have been doing a fairly decent job of dissecting the issues even for a small, neophyte opposition. So, not to field a candidate in the by-election would send a message that they are still not quite ready.

THE DLP CAN BE EXPECTED TO FIELD A CANDIDATE. After all, it has been predicting by-elections in two constituencies (Indar Weir’s and Trevor Prescod’s) for more than a year!  Let’s see what they come up with! Again I leave my fellow bloggers to speculate…if they have time!

THE UPP MUST SHOW THAT IT HAS NOT LOST HOPE. It has fielded a candidate and we shall see how that plays out.  All things considered, it gave a fairly good account of itself in 2018 election. What I “worry” about is their pedestrian and non-charismatic leadership.

GRENVILLE PHILLIPS [A.K.A SOLUTIONS BARBADOS] HAS ENTERED THE FRAY.  Best of luck and more power to the Treasury!

Moving on smartly! What about issues to be raised in this by-election?

There are many hot, topical issues to inspire debate and conspire about: Covid-19, union betrayal, same sex unions, homosexual marriages, tourism, crime, BEST, neglect of the constituency, the push for republic status for Barbados and the “Thrown” Speech in general. The more enlightened and skilful party (parties) will throw in the Chinese influence in Barbados and the Caribbean.  Just remember I did say “enlightened”!

All in all, I am looking forward to political theatre at its BEST!


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274 responses to “Phartford Files: St. George By-Election: Acid Test or Tonic Water?”


  1. @Crusoe

    What is there not to understand? Ms Moore is an independent member of the Senate, presumably the voice of trade unionism. She is now also the candidate for the BLP in the forthcoming by-election.
    Is it me, or people who cannot see the conflict of interest have a deeper understanding of ethics than I could ever do. She has a moral obligation to resign as a senator immediately. In fact, the moment she was selected for St George North she should have resigned.
    What we all now know is that she is no longer ‘independent’. All the talk about trade unionist who were MPs is smoke and mirrors.


  2. @Hal. 10.25am

    Agree 100%.


  3. Crusoe

    Same rules apply for the head of CoC.

    If he is selected to run for MP and he continue in his position it up to the individuals of CoC to vote him out/in if he was selected by the ballot.


  4. As long as Moore does not participate in any more senate there is no conflict of interest. when she should resign is up to her and the GG.


  5. No regard for ethical behaviour. Some of you held up the moral/ethical argument when Stuart overstayed his welcome by extending into the 90 days.

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  6. Are we not assuming the Moore has not yet resigned?


  7. The general public must assume in the absence of any communication. Like some have expressed it should have been all done seamlessly.


  8. was she really an “independent” senator if she was also a member of a political party?


  9. what that saying about assuming?


  10. now if there was a senate meeting tomorrow and she take her seat then that is a different story.


  11. What is it about the people’s right to know?

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  12. As far as I am concerned Ms. Moore should either fish or cut bait, she can’t continue as an independent member of the Senate and be the declared candidate for the ruling party in a bye election. Her resignation should have been on the GG’s desk the moment that the PM acknowledged that she was the BLP’s candidate.

    It is the moral and ethical thing to do, not that I expect it will happen


  13. @ John 2

    Aren’t independent Senators are chosen by the Governor General? In Ms Moore’s case, isn’t her choice ‘automatic,’ since she represents the trade unions in Parliament?
    Is the ruling political party guaranteed a specific number of Senators?

    How can she remain an independent Senator and represent the BLP’s interest in Parliament at the same time?

    Then, wouldn’t it be obvious Ms Moore has to resign from the Senate?


  14. the people will know i have no doubt about that.

  15. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @VC, again I share your concern or ‘amazement’ at the Blogmaster’s post that “We have these political talking heads who see every opportunity to “intellectualize’ matters.” … So I ask you, Senor Blogmaster, what would you prefer ? That we simply toss around BS disinformation related to these issues, produce AI manipulated memes on them or go with violent protests rather than deep-dive with FACTS and intellectual review?

    And @ Crusoe, why exactly are the two opinions “Nonsense”? They both offer SOLID FACTS on Bajan governance and its nexus to the labour movement… how in the Father’s name can we actually dismiss that relationship – incestuous or whatever – when in very simple terms BOTH parties forever noted their links to the mass movement of workers with the word LABOUR in their name. …. If we disagree strongly with the views them refute them with sold rebuttals; calling them nonsense is ‘school boy’ stuff … and has little value in this forum.

    I also remain further confused that we continue to palaver as if the relationship between unions and a political party is not deep and pervasive everywhere in the world… the tone of these BU argumentations is purely political pageantry!

    Question for you @Hal Austin… you stated that :“She has a moral obligation to resign as a senator immediately. […] What we all now know is that she is no longer ‘independent’.” The columnist Alleyne made the point that ‘Independent’ Senators are chosen by the GG (NOT the PM) … and further suggested that it seems that such choices have been made to give a voice for workers …. It’s also clear that the ‘independence’ did not ever mean that the senator did not have a strong party preference.

    All that said to ask whether your assertions are are definitive a moral question of conflict of interest as you so purposely note… by the ‘letter of the law’ so to speak, your assertion can be argued quite differently. We are making Ms Moore into something she really is NOT.. and all too often perception can become reality.

    So let the ‘intellectualizing’ continue apace and get rid of the dangerous BS argumentation, please!


  16. Artax.

    I any of my submisssions did i indicate and thing differen from what you are asking?


  17. @Dee Word

    Are you so trapped in a linear box that you are unable to apply context? Carry on.

  18. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    And to note… if it’s necessary … obviously she CANNOT continue as an independent senator if she becomes a BLP representative. Whether she resigns now or after she wins/loses is ‘political’ calculus.


  19. Has Miss Moore sought to or represented the workers as an independent senator since she has been selected to run?

  20. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    David, EVERYTHING in life MUST be viewed in context. I am definitely applying it to this Moore scenario. You should consider that you and others steeped in the local scene daily are much more ‘blinkered’ than I am and that your context may not be as comprehensive as mine is!😎😊


  21. Moore is an educated woman. i am sure the she is wall aware that she cannot continue in her position as an independent senator after being selected to run for the BLP.

    i am sure she will do what is right according to her timetable and not according to caswell or any BU commentors timetable.


  22. @Dee Word

    There is a correct way to do things which is respectful of the people. When Moore was offered as the BLP candidate all conventions should have been acknowledged. This is important given Moore’s type of selection.


  23. @DpD
    Quite often I find myself disagreeing with statements of the blogmaster, but his “We have these political talking heads who see every opportunity to “intellectualize’ matters.” came as a shock to me and sent me into the conspiracy theory world of there being three or four blogmasters. This one has a perfect understanding of our talking heads.

    Your “deep-dive” had me rolling with laughter. If they knew what they were diving into, they would cover their noses and hide their faces and miss the target.

    I must compliment Crusoe and his rather short and accurate summary. Sometimes we long to prolong the debate to such an extent that we ignore the immediate and the obvious. Here are three more comments that were more polite than Crusoe’s. You will notice that there are not as voluminous as those that you like (but simple and sweet)

    @Hal
    “Is it me, or people who cannot see the conflict of interest have a deeper understanding of ethics than I could ever do. She has a moral obligation to resign as a senator immediately. In fact, the moment she was selected for St George North she should have resigned.
    What we all now know is that she is no longer ‘independent’. All the talk about trade unionist who were MPs is smoke and mirrors.”

    @Sargeant
    “As far as I am concerned Ms. Moore should either fish or cut bait, she can’t continue as an independent member of the Senate and be the declared candidate for the ruling party in a bye election. Her resignation should have been on the GG’s desk the moment that the PM acknowledged that she was the BLP’s candidate.”

    @Artax (an answer given as a question)
    “How can she remain an independent Senator and represent the BLP’s interest in Parliament at the same time? Then, wouldn’t it be obvious Ms Moore has to resign from the Senate?”


  24. The people of St.George are voting for Mia Mottley not Toni Moore.

    The BLP will win the by election.


  25. Reading the comments on the DLP live stream is funny. Partisans exist in an alternative universe. Dee Word the blogmaster is aware how the wind blows your side.


  26. @ David
    “ . Partisans exist in an alternative universe.“
    So true !


  27. Agree Verla did well in her specifying, let us see if she is able to make the crossover to general public with the same verve. The by election will be a good test.


  28. @ William

    Blackie, and his older brother Oliver, were two of the brightest boys to be educated at St Giles of their generation. They are good examples of how poverty in the old days limited ambitions.
    Today they will both be lawyers. He had a successful career as a surveyor/builder. Oliver went on to be an outstanding fitter at the Central Foundry.
    In the 1950s St Giles had a Speech Day at which a play was performed by the older boys. I remember one year Oliver played the lead, the following year, the same play, Grenville played the lead. Both performances were absolutely outstanding.
    After school Grenville became a sort of people’s advocate, the person people in the Ivy and Howells X Road will go to to fill in forms, write letters, etc.
    For a time some people thought we were brothers. It was a joke of mine that I could not tell what my father got up to, but I have been, and remain, close to the Barrow/Braithwaite family.
    Sometimes I think they too thought I was a blood relative; at least they treated me as such, in particular the late Leroy, one of the outstanding black chefs in the UK, who often invited me to his home to share meals with his family.
    I will miss Blackie, and I know Trevor Prescod and others from the district have already expressed their condolences. May his soul rest in peace.


  29. Overly optimistic Verla depezia making her presence known
    Clearly she was upbeat and well pleased with the followers response to the election
    Hope she can revitalise and build on that positive energy carrying it forward for a win in all upcoming elections
    She said she was prepared for the fight


  30. David

    Monitor GIS and you will find out about the conventions were followed or not..

    The public did not select Moore


  31. VD selection is another rejection of the old guards. At first i support her selection but after two years………..if she is the best DEM have …….then DLP got a long road to travel.


  32. e pedantic DribblerSeptember 27, 2020 11:16 AM @
    And @ Crusoe, why exactly are the two opinions “Nonsense”? They both offer SOLID FACTS on Bajan governance and its nexus to the labour movement… how in the Father’s name can we actually dismiss that relationship – incestuous or whatever – when in very simple terms BOTH parties forever noted their links to the mass movement of workers with the word LABOUR in their name.

    ++++

    For them to regurgitate history is nothing more than words. So what if there was a historical relationship. Are we stuck in a ”forever paradigm”, with no change allowed?

    The fact that I can offer is that no man can serve two masters, let alone three, simultaneously. The letter of the law may be unbroken, but does that tell the whole story?

    Sure, you can be the head of a union and the chair of a cricket club. Totally unrelated activities.

    But a union representative should act in the interests of the workers and cannot also be a party insider to do that. There is clear conflict.

    Similarly to that of being an independently appointed senator and being a party insider.

    Pardon me for just labelling their opinions nonsense, because as I see it, their facts as such do not support anything, hence my conclusion. That I would have to resort to putting this into written words is astounding.

    But whatever, same old, anything goes I guess.


  33. You can imagine how often she encountered that version of her name as achild.
    Grows up to be a serious politician, but one of the bullies followed her from the schoolyard.


  34. Crusoe

    Do you know the histor of the unions in Barbados/ their birth?

    Cant we be we sometimes instead of following the bigger countries all in the name of “progress”


  35. We all agree that she should resign as a senator and she will if she has not already done so.

    Resign from the union – if she dont want to then its up to the membership to decide not john public.

    I have already that the main goverment workers under BWU is supporting her the same way they supported Trotti


  36. The executive should not be confused with general membership.


  37. John 2, why are we blaming Toni Moore and the BWU for accepting the 5% increase, when everybody knows that it is the NUPW that represents the majority of the public sector employees?

    And a next thing too. The general secretary or union president can’t make no decisions on salaries, strikes, protests or anything, unless they get authorization to do so from the membership.


  38. I seem to remember a former union president trying to establish a buyers club, or some such to help union members cope with the rising cost of living. It never got pass the membership as far as I am aware.
    Perhaps the membership don’t always know what’s best for them?


  39. David

    Executive there and can be removed but the votes of the general membership

    MC

    There going to claim that the leader word carry weight. If she say to refuse then the members will say to refuse or something like that


  40. David

    They tried to remove Akanni who kept him

    They tried to remove two of the teachers unions leader. What happened?

    I


  41. You are aware the general membership is controlled by a few hundred? The same flawed governance arrangement affecting our system of government is mirrored in how the unions are badly managed.

  42. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @David, a smile re “how the wind blows” comment. I myself am not sure how it does blow so I am quite pleased that you do!

    And I completely agree (and your thrust also @Theo) when you say
    “There is a correct way to do things which is respectful of the people.”

    But within that context I respectfully assert that there is or was nothing ‘incorrectly’ done thus far. This has become more about perceived rather than factual mischief.

    1-When Moore was appointed senator it was known that her independence was ‘constrained’ by her political leanings surely.
    2-Then as now her role was to be representative of the workers … thus what is now perceived as CHANGED is that she will under-serve those worker interests when they conflict with her party’s policies…

    That’s a fair perception and thus she will have to resign her senatorial appointment to allay all concerns…

    … but to say that her immediate resignation was required is really to be saying that she cant (and shouldn’t) be trusted to offer any of the reasoned support for which she was previously selected… to me that’s a damning perspective of her (and us) as “decent’ and “honest’ beings.

    Just saying.

    @Crusoe, I am unsure how to I interpret your comments … as @John2 asked you, do u care to accept the history and affiliations of labour and our political development as deeply ALINGED TO PARTIES and more directly to your point how executive Gen Secretaries were also “executives’ in or leading party officials!

    To repeat NO ONE disputes that independent senator and party elected MP cannot coexist… the point of all our diatribes is whether 1)she has done something wrong up to this point and 2) whether anything is truly different to past union-party relationships or frankly NEED to be different.

    No, and No… is my view.

    Trying to delinking union executives from deep political party relationship is THE nonsense… as that makes absolutely no rationale sense and is seen no where in the world under NO form of governance.

    Looka I gone, yah here . This is becoming a circle self-amusing tingy!


  43. The bigger issue here though is this. If we have unions that many are claiming answer to the political powers. We have an opposition that lets economic measures basically go unchallenged. A press that clearly does not question financial reality or refuses to challenge it openly, who then pray tell is there left to clarify and represent the interest of the masses? Who will stand up and challenge measures so as to keep the general population informed on change which is clearly coming?


  44. @Dee Word

    Will the goodly Senator Moore vote YES when the integrity bill is retabled in the second session of parliament?


  45. @ Pedantic

    The idea is not only to be ethical in one’s behaviour, but to be seen to be ethical. But Ms Moore is not the only guilty one. It is incumbent on any ethical person with a 29:1 parliament to proceed with caution, not act like a bull in a China shop.
    Immediately you realise you have an almost 100 per cent parliament, you impose on yourself caution, self-control, internal checks and balances.
    So, instead of bringing on a new and, preferably, young person to be an MP, one deliberately selects someone already in the Senate, a leader of a trade union and a member of the Social Partnership, in other words, someone who can already command a public platform, is an egregious act.
    It reinforces the view that the president is Machiavellian in her behaviour. Barbados deserves better.


  46. at the time of the DLP offer of the $49 mil one time pay out and concessions and the 5% BLP pay increase acceptance the BWU and the NUPW were working together for their workers in the civil and public sector. Both their heads are BLP supporters.

    so it is nonsense to try to separate the two and then to say that such matters are driven by members- utter poppycock. the leaders represent the member and bring back to them any offers made and in most cases whether they should accept or not. leadership counts can sway certain votes and situations

    in any case i was in Bim soon after the 5% was accepted and members were incensed. in fact i was present at an argument between some members and a first or second vice president of the NUPW who tried to defend the decline of the DLP offer by saying union leadership did not view it as a serious offer as it was not formal. he was cussed sink sink sink and had to excuse himself in some haste


  47. And we supposed to take the word of a self confessed DLP operative that happen to be there when a union exec and some union members was cussing out one another?

    Now that is what I call poppycock.

    A next thing too. You know that saying members were incensed don’t mean that ALL the members were incensed? Bring some stats to prove it.


  48. a self confessed DLP operative? well well. can i ask where you got that from? confessed DLP supporter i will accept gladly

    in any case people who masquerade as neutral dont have to provide any proof of anything right?


  49. So, wait, let me ask you something? I notice that when anybody ask you something about what you write, you say that they pretending to be neutral? You better relax yuh.

    It looking as though you like accusing people that don’t jump up on your bandwagon of being pretending to be neutral?

    You know that you didn’t give us no proof that it is the whole union membership that was incensed about what the unions decide either?


  50. Raw bakes

    Was that union a credit union ?

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