Phartford Files: St. George By-Election: Acid Test or Tonic Water?

Submitted by Ironside

There is going to be a by-election in St. George North and some parties have already announced their candidates. I will not waste time speculating about the reasons – real or imagined- why the sitting MP Glyne Clarke has resigned from parliament and is taking up a diplomatic post in Canada. That is for the gossip posse.

What is important is that this by-election has come at a time when the country is at the lowest ever in its economic performance and arguably at its lowest moral ebb. Politically, the country is experiencing a rise in de facto totalitarianism, a trend being reflected around the world and led by the CCP (Chinese Communist Party).  

Coming just over two years after the main election in 2018, the electioneering engines should not require too much of a warm up, especially in this weather! The core question is: will it be an acid test for the government or merely some quinine for covid-19?

I will leave the bulk of the statistical political punditry to the other bloggers who may more be skilled at the enterprise of analyzing historical voting patterns and the like.  Interested readers can now make use of the site Caribbean Elections Website to fuel their punditry and speculations.

What I want to do, as succinctly as possible, is to state a few imperatives/hypotheses about the by-election.

THE RULING PARTY CANNOT AFFORD TO LOSE THIS BY-ELECTION.  If it does it will confirm how we “feel”, namely, that the populace is no longer enamoured with the BLP and its leader what with the serial malfeasances it has committed over the last two years. If it wins, the pundits will put it down to hard core support in the constituency.

Your guess is as good as mine, though, as to whether the BLP is committing political suicide by running BWU union boss, Toni Moore.  I know the BU historians will tell us about the union leaders who have run for political office over the years so I am looking forward to that rehash and the punditry that will follow.  My rough estimate is that about 70% – 75% of Nationnews Facebook comments cast Ms. Moore’s selection negatively. One commentator bluntly hoped she would lose.  But I concede that that is a small and perhaps irrelevant sample.  

THE PDP CANNOT AFFORD NOT TO FIELD A CANDIDATE IN THIS BY-ELECTION.  I have been following their Facebook communications and all other things considered, they have been doing a fairly decent job of dissecting the issues even for a small, neophyte opposition. So, not to field a candidate in the by-election would send a message that they are still not quite ready.

THE DLP CAN BE EXPECTED TO FIELD A CANDIDATE. After all, it has been predicting by-elections in two constituencies (Indar Weir’s and Trevor Prescod’s) for more than a year!  Let’s see what they come up with! Again I leave my fellow bloggers to speculate…if they have time!

THE UPP MUST SHOW THAT IT HAS NOT LOST HOPE. It has fielded a candidate and we shall see how that plays out.  All things considered, it gave a fairly good account of itself in 2018 election. What I “worry” about is their pedestrian and non-charismatic leadership.

GRENVILLE PHILLIPS [A.K.A SOLUTIONS BARBADOS] HAS ENTERED THE FRAY.  Best of luck and more power to the Treasury!

Moving on smartly! What about issues to be raised in this by-election?

There are many hot, topical issues to inspire debate and conspire about: Covid-19, union betrayal, same sex unions, homosexual marriages, tourism, crime, BEST, neglect of the constituency, the push for republic status for Barbados and the “Thrown” Speech in general. The more enlightened and skilful party (parties) will throw in the Chinese influence in Barbados and the Caribbean.  Just remember I did say “enlightened”!

All in all, I am looking forward to political theatre at its BEST!

274 comments

  • Michael Campbell this guy Greene is a Dem whose sole purpose is to create strife particularly now a by election has been called.Earlier he stated that he heard that Senator Lisa Cummins was the candidate for the Bees in SGN but could not tell us who his Dems candidate was
    Again he was proven wrong so do not take him serious just a rabble rouser.

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  • @ John2 September 27, 2020 6:04 PM

    Raw bakes

    Was that union a credit union ?
    (~_~)

    https://barbadosunderground.net/2008/11/21/barbadians-economy-change/

    In a recent newscast we were surprised to hear President of the NUPW Walter Maloney recount that his union has had to postpone the launch of its heralded buyers club. When the idea was originally announced we believed it to be an excellent initiative in self help. The catalyst for the idea was obviously triggered by the escalating cost of living which occurred against the backdrop of the global economic turbulence.

    President Maloney explained that while that part of the union membership comprised of retired civil servants have made contributions to the $600,000 project, active civil servants appear to be reluctant to do the same

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  • Raw bAkes

    Wha would make think that the workers didn’t know what is/was in their best interest

    I see the article was from 2008
    I also also saw that the president attacked mia

    Where is that president now?
    And isn’t the new president and workers not seem to be sympathetic to mia/blp

    There maybe more to that story than you think

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  • I think a buyers club should more come from credit union/s

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  • What is wrong if Greene is a DLP sympathizer? You BLP supporters are behaving like President Trump supporters. There is a large chunk of people in Barbados who supports the DLP. The last Government turned them off and they stayed home and did not vote. Why would a party that has two thirds majority want the largest Union President to joined them in Parliament to go on the back bench? Is this a status thing for Mrs.Moore?

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  • What if SGN want her in parliament to represent them?

    Are u not assuming she will be on the backbench forever?

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  • As a self confessed rabble rouser and strife maker, I would say that the PM debunked the nonsense about Moore running for office as BWU General Secretary.
    It may shock those still living in the 1940s, to know that I watched the entire meeting in great comfort along with about 900 others.
    The PM was very honest when she said she chose Moore to run. I guess the Branch went along with the selection. Apparently Moore joined the BLP about a week or so ago.
    Nobody can demonstrate people involvement better than the BLPDLP.
    Democracy at its best!

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  • Apparently Moore joined the BLP about a week or so ago.
    Nobody can demonstrate people involvement better than the BLPDLP.
    Democracy at its best!

    Xxxxx

    @ Mr Skinner

    IF BAJANS DON’T WAKE UP SOON THEY WILL FIND THEMSELVES BEING LITTLE HAITI.

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  • September 27, 2020 9:32 PMWhy would a party that has two thirds majority want the largest Union President to joined them in Parliament to go on the back bench? Is this a status thing for Mrs.Moore?
    ++++

    Reading being the lines, someone is being catapulted to the front of the class.

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  • Lest we forget absoloutely nothing as far as Greene or you are concern .However i hate hypoccracy so tell us what was your position as it related to the following persons link with the Dems.Sir Roy Trotman, Mr Robert Morris, Mr Evelyn Greaves, Mr Derek Alleyne, Sir Frank Walcott and others like Mr Clarke, Mr Msloney etc?I do not remember hesring your voice back then.Therefore what is the problem now that she has joined the Bees and not the Dems?Ms Moore is free to join whichever party she chooses.The people of SGN and the union members will decide if she succeeds bunch of hyprocrites.

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  • So far the debate has centered around Toni Moore’s independence or lack of it and the precedent set for her “betrayal” by former union bosses.

    Left out of the debate so far is the so-called “social partnership” of unions, private sector and government. If memory serves me correctly, this tripartite partnership was started under Owen Arthur’s leadership. HAS NOT this social partnership cemented the “symbiotic” relationship and “open door” between union leadership and political partisanship?

    Is it the case that this “social partnership” experiment has become DYSFUNCTIONAL or is MM taking it to another level?

    So what is PM Mottley “seeing” that we cannot see? Is it a gamble or strategic master stroke as the Ezra Allyene contends? Is the choice more “personal”? A mixture of the above?

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  • A William

    The level of deception in this matter is becoming more and more revealing. If Ms Moore only joined the BLP about a week ago, how accurate is that timeline? Did she join during the prorogation or after? W|as she approached to join the arty after the president had put in place plans to remove Gline Clarke (voluntarily or involuntarily) and replace him with a more compliant person?
    I know it can seem intellectual and Eu8ropean, but this is a further undermining of our democracy, the very fabric of or society, by an autocratic leader who does not tolerate opposition.
    We have lost any sense of parliamentary scrutiny of the Executive, which is reflected in the way we relate to each other as individuals and as a society.
    W now have a recent culture in which we have corrupted the idea of education to mean qualifications and a boastful distaste for what some call intellectualism. It is like saying I want you to be educated, but not too educated.
    In this post-religious, post-modern culture, we now celebrate the concept of the market, in which every human endeavour now has a monetary value.
    Values such as aesthetics, beauty, poetry, art etc are now relegated to be Euro-centric. Even ball.in the exaggerated narrative at which cricket is at the heart, the scoring of runs becomes more important than the beauty of batting. The same with basketball and foot
    Some analysts even see a beautiful cameo role as a waste of space. So a Seymour Nurse, or Francis Scott, or Reggie Haynes, or Gas Clarke or Sackie Gregroire can be relegated to the ranks of the also rans.
    Democracy is more than a vote every four or five years; such ideals as courtesy, obedience, civility, common decency now give way to the tyranny of the majority, something we experience every day with the flunkies coming on BU to support their favourite political party and in the concept of ‘getting a pick.’
    We now have a political culture in which we demonise the opposition, turning our supporters in to monsters, then aft er the election, pretending we have respect for our rivals, when we have already let the dogs out.
    But if we have got one lesson from Black Lives Matter, and we get more than one, it is to call out those who choose to remain silent in the face of bad behaviour. We must call them out. Not to is complicity..

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  • @Hal Austin September 28, 2020 8:03 AM

    there is a monetary value attached to every human endeavour, it seems nowadays.

    your post is spot on. we in Bim fail to learnt from the past. in fact we only use to past to continue the present not to examine our failures.

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  • Campaigning start. Comedy Central is in St.George. Coming soon. Political rass meetings.

    Hot topics will be SSM ( same sex marriage ) and the legalisation of male to male internal bonding.

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  • @ Hal
    The deterioration that started in the mid- seventies continues . The political culture of the BLPDLP is now fully entrenched. Public discourse has been hijacked by political miscreants.
    Excellence is either scorned or relegated. Guns blasting all over the place; poor block people scrambling for an economic place; catch phrases now replace socio – economic policy.
    That’s why I implore the people of SGN to go in the booth and ignore the decadent BLPDLP candidates and vote : UPP, Solutions, PdP or Independents.
    Peace.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @Austin, yes your 8:03 rings the bell loudly with great prose but you and others have made similar sterling remarks previously…. for VEARS now!

    I know you will dismiss it as ‘whataboutism’ but I completely agree with @Sknner that this has been with us at least 40 plus years (I’ll use the Regan period as my arbitrary demarcation line) and has simply become more pervasive since; and thus I’ll add that there should be grave discomfort and WTF self-hatred if only only now we recognize that remaining silent has gotten us to the mess we are in.

    As I said your piece hits all the right clanging notes but boy oh but we are being quite self serving to look at this Moore matter as we are and extrapolate about it as if life started with THIS dictatorial style PM!

    So @Greene, it’s not a failure to learn from the past… but rather the OPPOSITE. Goes to your oft repeated prose that the DLP are too reliant on the Barrow narrative… so Mottley is absolutely all-powerful…dangerously so – just as Chairman Duffus’ reported that ‘All roads led to Barrow’.

    In that vein our politicians (and citizens) accept and reuse those ‘autocratic’ strongman tactics honed and deployed with venom by him and other past PMs….Can any reasoned person BELIEVE the narrative that Moore only ‘JOINED’ the BLP weeks ago…are we IDIOTS here.

    Anyhow, we choose to reman silent until we don’t, I presume!

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  • @ William
    @Pedantic

    I have been on for over two years about the dictatorial nature of this government, this president, and war ned that it will end in tears. There are now reports in London that in February of lasts yer the president signed up to China’s New Silk Road.
    If true, I cannot remember this matter being discussed in parliament or reported in the local press. It is a further example of a disregard for the sovereignty of our democracy and utter contempt for the people.
    The London reports are even suggesting that the loud noise about becoming a Republic was an initiative of the Chinese, and not some inspirational moment by our leader.
    We now have to monitor how Barbados votes in international fora, if by coincidence we vote in line with China and how such votes will change the direction of our small, but proud democracy.
    This is not a time for rum shop debates, but a moment of of heart-searching.

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  • Word on the street is that Pat Cheltenham is the new CJ. wuhloss muh belly. if true that is more friends and family business

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  • Which part of; gih me de vote and watch muh, wunna din onderstan?

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  • @Greene

    What has this BLP government done that is different to its predecessor?

    The real issue is how do we make the governance process transparent and hold the players more closely accountable.

    What president what.

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  • Greene

    Who u did want the chicken to go to –
    A DLPite or an imported neutral? Cha man

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  • before the applications were sent out i told this forum that he had the job. why? Because he was all around Bim telling his women that he is going to be the next CJ. so said so proven.

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  • Alright then. David blog master ask what this BLP government doing that different to its predecessor and he ain’t get an answer yet.

    But what I could tell wunnuh is that the DEMS change the constitution so that Freundel could appoint his school mate and buddy as Chief Justice and now the BEES now going to appoint their friend as Chief Justice.

    What the old people does say? 6 is half dozen?

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  • Crooks Move up crooks to protect crooks, , All will be exposed for Fraud, Nothing last forever, If We are lucky the US DOJ will round them up ! They already have a case of Conviction with Donville and another 17 old WARRANTS TO HELP PROVE THEIR CASRE, and two other crooks on the Run! Q

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  • The BLP like it going on a youth kick if Pat is to be the next CJ as he is older than Marston, isn’t there a rule that precludes one from serving in the job after they have reached 72 years (he may be a bit short of that milestone) but that doesn’t mean the Gov’t can’t change the rules.

    In other news I understand that Gline has ordered a Brinks truck to back up to the H of A to haul the load cash that is coming his way. As one of my buddies used to say “The lord don’t come but he sends”

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  • @Sargeant

    These kinds of short lasting appointments are to create pensionable jobs for the boys.

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  • Why is it that a lot of Bajans think it is OK to make fun of serious issues?

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  • @Hal,

    because if yuh dont laff you would cry. um int easy bout Bim. um ruff uff. de President too nuff

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  • Now Greene claiming Mr Cheltenham is to be the next CJ.Let us wait and see.He has been wrong often before but if he is right so what? He is far more capable than Mr Gibson in my view who was brought in specially by the last PM and i saw no great improvment. Off topic heard the Dems out in full force on Brasstacks with Mr Ellis a known Dem sypathizer.Looks like they have become reenergized with the retention of one political loser in Ms Depeiza over another political loser in Mr Pilgrim.In my view all this enthusiasm will end in tears as the leader does not inspire confidence and in 2023 Ms Mottley vrs Ms Depeiza can only end in one result in my view.Therefore let them prance up as though they blieve bajans got short memories of their recent incompetence.

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  • well lets hope i am right this time. Cos Pat is absolutely the best man for the job. no experience sitting on the bench whether Mag or Supreme Court, affiliation with the BLP, right school etc. Those are the best qualities for success right there.

    only makes one wonder why they held interviews for the post anyway when this chap was the right man for the job from the get go and he knew it too. he even bragged that he got it before he got it such was his confidence. really how could anyone deny or outdo him?

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  • @Hal Austin September 28, 2020 12:07 PM

    With this, I hope we can now get MORE traction on this Chinese (really CCP) matter IN BARBADOS. Many are already awake if you check recent Facebook comments.

    I have been “preaching” about Communist China for months with video and other evidence and it has all been reduced to: let the big boys fight and let’s pick up the crumbs.

    Please pardon my French, but some Barbadians are really educated asses; quick to have opinions but scant respect for evidence, far less logical reasoning. Worse still, some can’t master the “Queens English” and often define words to suit themselves. Some cannot ever see the bigger picture. Most things usually boil down to racism and slavery. Mental rigor mortis at its best! When you provide evidence, they simply ignore it and dig their heels as if that is going to change the truth. Pure stupidity!

    It is past mind-boggling to understand how, when all the other nations in the world (not Just the USA) are running at the speed of light away from the Chinese (CCP) ( they call it “decoupling”); Barbados is running at the same speed in the opposite direction! See for yourself the clown from the neighbouring constituency of SGS (who has perfected that art of putting one’s foot in one’s mouth):

    As I said elsewhere and as most nations across the world now understand, the covid-19 cover up by China (CCP) and Tedros of the WHO is the reason why we are in the current stinking economic mess and experiencing restricted freedom.

    We should be kicking the Chinese out of Barbados; instead we are courting them and they us (because they have few “friends” left in the world, most being in the mendicant Caribbean).

    It seems that this administration is willing to sign deals with the Devil to make itself look good. The love of money is truly the root of all evil! It is no wonder this government is taking on the bullying, propaganda-touting, totalitarian mantle of communist China!

    As I said at the top of this article, in case you have forgotten, the issue of this government’s ties with the repressive, Christian-persecuting, culture assimilating (a la Borg of Star Trek ) and genocidal CCP (every charge here can be proven) should be a SERIOUS BY-ELECTION ISSUE and ongoing NATIONAL TALKING POINT.

    SAY “NO” to Communist China and “YES” to freedom loving Taiwan!

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  • @ Ironside

    Please pardon my French, but some Barbadians are really educated asses; quick to have opinions but scant respect for evidence, far less logical reasoning. Worse still, some can’t master the “Queens English” and often define words to suit themselves. Some cannot ever see the bigger picture. Most things usually boil down to racism and slavery. Mental rigor mortis at its best! When you provide evidence, they simply ignore it and dig their heels as if that is going to change the truth. Pure stupidity!…(Quote)

    What you have said is so right on so many levels. The False belief that we are an educated people, based on an ability to count to ten and to write our own name; the absence of logical reasoning in our conversation; the anticipation of what people mean, rather than ask a simple question; the sucking up to the Chinese.
    All this is made worse by having an ineffective president who sees only her on inflated ego every time she looks ahead. I only part with you in the sense that we need a powerful nation to limit the brutalism of the US.
    However, that does not mean we have to sell our souls to the Chinese (which you mistakingly call the CCP). As a nation, we are educated beggars.
    We mist remember that government is by consent. We are a parliamentary democracy and the president has no respect for our democracy. She sees it as a technicality.
    But far worse is the cowardice of our professional middle class, whose silence is complicit; the Bar Association, which is useless; the doctors, trade unions, the amoral church and, most of all, the gutless media. All put their jobs, and homes, and cars and life-styles before their sense of right and wrong.
    We as a society, ALL of us, have failed. The unscrupulous president is just a child of a decaying public culture.

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  • @ Hal Austin September 29, 2020 7:47 AM
    However, that does not mean we have to sell our souls to the Chinese (which you mistakingly [sic] call the CCP).
    ++++++++++++
    Hal, this naming business can get complicated. Let me explain.

    The US certainly and an growing number of other nations, are making a distinction between the ordinary people of (mainland) China and the government also called the People’s Republic of China. The party running mainland China (1.4 billion people) is called the CCP (Chinese Communist Party).

    The rationale for making a distinction between the people and the party (actually same distinction we are making in Barbados at this time) is best expressed by Pompero here:

    I’ll give the full speech in a separate post.

    You must also remember Taiwan which is an island state made up of Chinese. The CCP claims it. Taiwan is a democratic country made up of people who fled from mainland China when the CCP took over circa 1949.

    Communist China forbids countries from having a separate diplomatic relationship with itself and Taiwan! Check it out!

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  • Here is the full speech:

    Hope these help.

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  • Word on the street is that Pat Cheltenham is the new CJ. wuhloss muh belly. if true that is more friends and family business

    Jobs all around for The President’s Circle. When the President’s agenda is complete the average Bajan gine be bawling. The idea of Barbados that was romanticized in the 60s/ 70 and becoming more of a nightmare with each day.

    The so called middle class is is in ICU and the emergence of 2 distinct socio economic groups is coming clearly into view. Just a few more years and The President’s job should be complete. Well done!

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  • Caswell,

    is it true that ACOP Williams has been granted a two year extension?

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  • @ Dullard

    It will end in tears.

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  • Everything in Barbados will end in tears for you lot. Many of you will probably whisper it in your last breath.

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  • it will get worse

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  • @Hal/Ironside 7:47

    What a combination.

    The two of you will replace Batman and Robin as the dynamic duo.

    Great posts.

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  • So , as those who get on BU and cuss people for the BLPDLP, should now learn that when you go to them for assistance or when they come offering you anything, it is best to beg somebody for a breadfruit , roast it and drink some water .
    You lend a party stalwart $400 and expose him publicly but you forgot to mention that you offered him a high paying job to shut him up because he expresses differences with your administration.
    BU should remember that a few months ago, I wrote that Caswell was being offered some enticements. Of course , since I am a known rabble rouser and strife maker, who live overseas, I was just being my usual anti-Mottley BLP self.
    Anyway , what I just read in Barbados Today is that Senator Caswell Franklyn , is a Barbadian living overseas, who knows not one damn thing about what goes on in the country. People like him need to stand where the hell they are. He is just pulling down the country . ………….

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  • @ Dullard

    You said and de ole man quotes

    “…Jobs all around for The President’s Circle. When the President’s agenda is complete the average Bajan gine be bawling.

    The idea of Barbados that was romanticized in the 60s/ 70 and becoming more of a nightmare with each day.

    The so called middle class is is in ICU and the emergence of 2 distinct socio economic groups is coming clearly into view.

    Just a few more years and The President’s job should be complete. Well done!”

    When de grandson made this Stoopid Cartoon below

    It was on 2017!!!

    At that time Dullard, many people here were unwilling and unable to discern the Mugabe Mottley threat

    But I, Piece the Prophet, was able to see what Mottley is AND ANNOUNCE IT TO THE PEOPLE!

    Now wunna starting to see THE DESPOT.

    This Tony Moore fiasco will show if bajans want this Dictator or, like you, have “woken up” and want to be rid of Mugabe BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!!!

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  • Surprised that the DLP has chosen Floyd Reifer to vie for the vacant SGN seat. I associate with cricket and I suppose may in SGN will too. Although Colin Spence has endorsed him (very sporting of him!) I think Spencer who is associated with hard -hitting calypso would have been a better choice in relation to the concept of political representation.

    Would like to know what criteria the DLP interviewers used to chose Reifer.

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  • ERRATA: That should be: ” I suppose [many] in SGN will too.

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  • Ironside, the Chinese have plenty of friends, including Mercer who funded and orchestrated, via Cambridge Analtica, now Emerdata, Trump’s and Johnson’s ride into power.

    https://louisproyect.org/2018/04/12/the-two-degrees-of-separation-between-robert-mercer-and-chinese-communism/

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  • So what politicians spout, especially Trump, is a lot of nonsense because behind the scenes, their interests are less transparent and often downright suspicious.

    There is a lot that goes on behind the scenes, that puts the front page into a different context.

    Your references to China only apply if we accept the front page version, whereas there is a lot more to the story.

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  • Heard the DEMS were going to approach Floyd to be their candidate for St. George North, but dismissed it as a rumour.

    Perhaps the Reifers popularity in St. George may have influenced their decision to ‘run’ him. However, he could prove to be a formidable opponent and intimidating to Toni, Grenville II and the other candidates.

    ‘Popularity’ worked for the BEES with ‘Sweet Boy’ Leroy Sisnett in St. Michael North East and failed for the DEES when “hard -hitting calypsonian,” the ‘Mighty Gabby’ ‘ran’ against ‘Billie’ Miller in the City.

    You never know, Verla, Mariposa, Greene and the DLP may soon have a voice in Parliament.

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  • @Artax

    It is a smart decision to run Reifer, he has the homegrown brand and could benefit from a backlash of sentiment from SGN electorate who maybe looking for an excuse to express dissatisfaction with the government in the form of a protest vote.

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  • @David,

    v good move by Verla. although i must say that from what i have heard most of the Reifer St George clan are Bees. it makes for a v interesting race. both are political novice at least at the elective level. Good choice Verla.

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  • @Greene

    It will be up to Reifer to offer a commanding and compelling message on the platform. Toni Moore has the edge in this department.

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  • what is Moore’s commanding and compelling platform message? i dont know Moore has any edge in that regard but she has an advantage from a historical point of view- it has been a BLP seat for 26 years. the Reifer name travels well in that part of St George and Floyd from all accounts is a personable chap. going to be a v interesting campaign

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  • Yes, David, Verla and the DEMS’ decision may have been a wise one.

    But, their strategy must not be dependent on their candidate’s popularity and a perceived growing unpopularity of the BLP alone.

    Mobilising the DLP faithful and voters who have become disenchanted with Mottley’s performance, to rally around Reifer within 90 days (or less), will be a test of Verla’s ‘political acumen.’

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  • @Greene

    Don’t be linear. Whether we agree or not Moore starts with the advantage. We wish Reifer well, it is good to see a fresh face.

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  • you have gone back to the word salad David. none of what you say departs from what i contended. so what gives?

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  • @Greene

    Toni Moore was introduced. She delivered a decent message about her desire to promote the labour cause from the walls of government bla bla. Follow her predecessors…it is Reifers turn.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    Correct @Artax, re “‘Popularity’ worked for the BEES with ‘Sweet Boy’ Leroy Sisnett in St. Michael North East and failed for the DEES when “hard -hitting calypsonian,” the ‘Mighty Gabby’ ‘ran’ against ‘Billie’ Miller in the City.”

    But beyond very strong ‘wishful thinking’ was Gaby really expected to best Billie … Sweet Boy was part of a Bee’s sweep of that election as I recall and again as memory serves he was swept out next term…

    And of course Owen ran against his deep rooted DLPite family clan and eventually won on a BLP platform…

    All that to say history tells us nothing about this fight of two political novices… so I completely agree with your other assertion that: “Mobilising the DLP faithful and voters who have become disenchanted with Mottley’s performance, to rally around Reifer within 90 days (or less), will be a test of Verla’s ‘political acumen” … With a super emphasis on the disenchantment!

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  • Am I right in saying the by-election date has not yet been announced, yet the BLP is already out campaigning? Is this another deceptive act by the president to give her candidate an advantage?
    Can’t she be straight for just once in her political life? Even if she were to lose it would not affect her command of parliament. It may bruise her ego, but then again that is very important to her. Her world-class credibility may be damaged.

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  • “Whether we agree or not Moore starts with the advantage.”

    @ David BU

    I’ll have to agree with you. One cannot, in all seriousness, deny Moore’s advantage of speaking in public forums, whether it is appealing to union members, negotiating with employers, speaking at conferences hosted by various labour and other organisations or debating in the Senate.

    Reifer can’t come with the usual rhetorical, political diatribe and expect to be taken seriously. Similarly to Grenville II, he and the DEMS should outline what policies they intend to implement for the benefit of the constituency and the island.

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  • Toni Moore’s compelling platform is that she would be fighting for labour and labour issues from parliament. really? that is a winning platform? a labour union representative fighting for labour? man piss in muh pocket. every day you are trying to prove Hal right about bajan intelligence.

    what she ought to outline is how she will do it generally and especially in the face of MAM routing 300 mil to the tourist sector in the hope that they will employ laid off workers. if that is what MAM intended why not give half to the NIS to extend benefits to laid off workers from the tourism sector and half to the said sector just in case tourism picks up they can resume business. other questions surround whether the 300 mil is a loan, what are the obligations of those who get this pay out, and must they employ all the people they laid off or a certain amount?

    and yes Reifer must set out the general election policies of the DLP and his specific policies for SGN

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  • @Greene

    Agree she has to flesh out what she mentioned during the FIRST meeting in Flat Rock. The point, she starts with an advantage given her national profile etc. we will have to see if this is blunted by a swing against the government and a poor platform delivery by Reifer.

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  • @ DPD

    Leroy Sisnett ‘ran’ and won the St. Michael North East seat in the 1976 and 1981 general elections.

    Interestingly, popularity also worked for the DEMS with then popular VOB radio personality, Steve Blackett.

    Based on Ishmael Roett’s record in St. Michael Central, it was also “wishful thinking” Blackett would have beaten Roett’s protégé, Rudy Grant. But, Blackett triumphed…..
    …. and I’m sure you’ll recall there was a ‘swing’ in 2008 as well. He also retained his ‘seat’ in the 2013 elections, at a time when sentiment was growing against Stuart and the DLP.

    We could look at that situation from the perspective that Blackett was just as popular on the radio with callers then, as is Larry Mayers currently. His popularity increased when he moved from radio to reading CBC TV evening news.

    Despite Roett’s record, perhaps Grant was punished by unforgiving DEMS because he was among many young politicians that for one reason or the other, were seduced by Arthur, to join the BLP……… and BEES that probably weren’t sure where his loyalty lay.

    Patrick Gollop was also a very popular radio personality as well. But, I’m not sure if his prospects, if he ‘ran’ for either the DLP or BLP.

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  • If the last paragraph is to be considered, I hope you’re not referring to me.

    If you are, I NEVER mentioned anything about “Moore’s compelling platform would be fighting for labour and labour issues from parliament.”

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @Artax, thank you for the correction re Sweet Boys two terms and not one…

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    … what we can say about our political scene is that ‘any number can play based on prevailing winds’! As you referenced re PG, what makes him less likely to succeed politically than Blackette or a Doug Hoyte or Mayers! What makes one popular insurance agent or lawyer successful politically and another not!

    The formula seems fairly basic: popularity, charm (read that as good looks, a positive commanding image and decent verbal skills) and an appearance of being intelligent or at a minimum success in your life endeavors. Couple that with strong party support and a winner is assured it seems … but alas, NOT always!

    So we can punditry as much as we like but with the variables surrounding this by-election a surprise victory for Reifer though NOT impossible would be a complete shock… because if Georgians ask themselves what his presence in the House offers them now then his election is doomed!

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  • dpD

    “because if Georgians ask themselves what his presence in the House offers them now then his election is doomed!”

    please explain

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  • @ DPD

    I forgot about Doug Hoyte. He was a very popular television personality, rising from reading the CBC TV news to hosting ‘Mornin’ Barbados’ and interviews.

    Yet, he was unsuccessful in his bid to become DLP parliamentarian.

    Another example is ‘Natlee’ Harewood. The amount of ‘support’ she generated, perhaps based on her popularity as a hooker, when she ‘threw her hat in the ring’ to contest the 2018 general elections as an independent candidate for the City, one would have thought she would have received much more than 54 votes.
    The support and suggestions she would have influenced social policy (or something similar) were ‘thrown through the window’ on election day. By that time, the novelty of a hooker ‘running’ for the House had worn off. Seriousness of the situation probably returned when her “Harry does like to eat botsy” videos on social media were considered.

    Coincidentally, I was thinking similarly, re what “if Georgians ask themselves what (Reifer’s) presence in the House offers them now?” You answered that question.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @Greene, seriously! You are seeking an expantation on why a lone and ‘lowly’ opposition. MP would be considered as being :doomed” to defeat!

    Alright bro… that would need to be done over a gin and tonic … on you!😎

    @Artax, oh lordie yah rough… you are comparing an avowed and vocal ‘escort’ to a number of male media personalities … oh dear… not sure how to ‘wrap’ that one.

    Would just say that 59 votes was a lot… can u imagine husbands explanning to wives or wives to husbands their vote… just jesting!

    On a semi serious note … Natlee was just too open ended verbally for many folks tastes I would suggest… it’s one thing to use your female attributes to earn a living but being so raucous too!

    I gone tho.

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  • dpD,
    strange statement that. I suppose then that the DLP, PdP and Solutions Barbados should give up and hand the seat to BLP becos it would be lonely in opposition.

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  • @Greene

    The third parties will cut votes from the DLP. Here is a good case for the fledgling opposition parties to agree to come together in the interest of increasing the possibility of increasing dissenting position in parliament. Our adversarial system would never permit!

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  • David,

    under which banner do you propose they come together?

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  • @Greene

    The DLP

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  • i dont know. that may cause a problem for the PdP and SB parties which would want to propose a new philosophy and policies apart from that of the DLP

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