Submitted by Don Rojas Scholars from the Caribbean recently renewed their call for reparations in recompense for hundreds of years of native genocide and enslavement in the region. The calls were made during a recent virtual symposium to honour the life and work of St. Lucian Nobel Laureate Sir William Arthur Lewis…
Scholars from the Caribbean recently renewed their call for reparations in recompense for hundreds of years of native genocide and enslavement in the region. The calls were made during a recent virtual symposium to honour the life and work of St. Lucian Nobel Laureate Sir William Arthur Lewis…
The Prime Minister made the point that LIAT does not have sufficient assets to satisfy the requirements or claims of most of its creditors, including the airline’s employees.
“LIAT only owns three planes and those planes are charged to the Caribbean Development Bank, so clearly they have a superior claim and after they would have covered their claim there will be hardly any assets available to liquidate severance and other liabilities to staff and other creditors, so there has to be a negotiated position,” Browne said….(Quote)
Wow. So, it was operating while insolvent? Is that legal? How incompetent. In any other jurisdiction there will be an investigation in to the collapse. Once again, who was in charge?
Hal AustinJune 28, 2020 4:33 AM
Were prominent Quakers, especially in the US, slave owners?
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No.
Some were, some weren’t..
George Fox didn’t own slaves, nor Margaret Fell, as far as I know,
George Fox did get to America in 1671, Margaret Fell didn’t as far as I can tell.
William Penn owned and traded in slaves.
He first appears in America 10 years later.
Nothing illegal or immoral at the time.
When you google William Penn Slavery here is the first thing you get, if you were actually to google.
“Slavery was documented in this area as early as 1639. William Penn and the colonists who settled Pennsylvania tolerated slavery, but the English Quakers and later German immigrants were among the first to speak out against it.”
“The 1688 Germantown Quaker Petition Against Slavery was the first protest against African-American slavery made by a religious body in the English colonies. Francis Daniel Pastorius authored the petition; he and three other Quakers living in Germantown, Pennsylvania (now part of Philadelphia) signed it on behalf of the Germantown Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends. Clearly a highly controversial document, Friends forwarded it up the hierarchical chain of their administrative structure–monthly, quarterly, and yearly meetings–without either approving or rejecting it. The petition effectively disappeared for 150 years into Philadelphia Yearly Meeting’s capacious archives; but upon rediscovery in 1844 by Philadelphia antiquarian Nathan Kite, latter-day abolitionists published it in 1844 in The Friend, (Vol. XVII, No. 16.) in support of their antislavery agitation.”
You will find if you google the State of Pennsylvania and slavery that “Pennsylvania’s Act for the Gradual Abolition of Slavery was the most conservative of the laws emancipating slaves that were passed in northern states between 1780 and 1804. The law freed few slaves immediately.”
The economy of the North was not based on slavery.
Many Barbadian Quakers emigrated to Pennsylvania when the option presented itself in 1681.
Many Germans also emigrated there because Quakers who founded it did so on the basis of freedom of religion.
That’s how the Mennonites, Amish etc. ended up there.
Moravians also flocked there to escape the persecutions in Europe.
I am curious about the origins of the Moravians in Barbados as my gut tells me the Quaker planters with links to Pennsylvania were the catalysts.
@ Quaker John
Again you are being duplicitous. On the one hand you are saying ‘no’ to prominent Quakers being slave owners, then you go on to say some were some were not. You go on to mention William Penn. You cannot get any more prominent than having an entire US state named after you.
You say there was nothing illegal or immoral. Illegal, yes. But immoral? Are you sure?
Options for Quakers from Barbados to get to America presented themselves prior to 1681 and the opening up of Pennsylvania.
John Yeamans himself a Quaker first led a group of Barbadian Quakers there in 1665.
If you were to google you would find “In the deteriorating economic conditions of the 1660s and 1670s many Barbadian planters sought better opportunities.[1] In 1663 a number of planters in Barbados made arrangements with the proprietors of Carolina for establishing a colony at Cape Fear. The proprietors, by the exercise of their influence at court, secured a baronetcy for Yeamans, conferred on him 12 January 1665, and on 11 January 1665 they appointed him governor of their colony, with a jurisdiction extending from Cape Fear to San Mateo.[2].”
Did Yeamans own slaves?
Yes.
@ Quaker John
You have a brilliant modus operandi. You have a statement you want to make and no matter what the question is, you say what you want to. You ought t be a politician.
I assumed you were asking if all prominent Quakers in America slave owners.
The answer is of course no.
Some were and some were not.
I started with George Fox, the most prominent of all who was in America for a while.
He was here too so same as in Barbados.
Putting George Fox aside for the moment, if you look at the Census c.1680, you will find that there were major land owners, prominent Quakers, who owned no as in ZERO slaves.
One such name that springs to mind was William Sharpe who owned Mount Wilton.
What he may have done was rent land to Quaker/Christian planters who owned slaves but there are no slaves registered against his name.
Hal, the problem is your ignorance of history!!
You cannot put people in a box and act surprised and with righteous indignation when one size doesn’t fit all.
SOME PROMINENT QUAKERS OWNED SLAVES AND SOME DIDN’T.
ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THAT?
I have to admit though that I used George Fox as an example to mess with you!!
Seems to have worked.
@Artax
Is it any surprise insularity prevent us from harnessing the advantage of being a regional body? The location of an airline should be informed by due diligence performed by professionals.
@ Quaker John
Mess with me? Do you mean fabricating a story? As I have said on numerous occasions on BU, do not assume what I mean. I ask the questions I want answered. The problem is not what I am comfortable with, but the historical truth.
As I said, you answer the questions you want to answer, regardless to if they were asked. Two things about that. My experience and training and, as to my ignorance of history, well spotted. I am so ignorant that it surprises me when I write my name. I did not go to Harrison College, nor did I get a Barbados Scholarship.
After chattel slavery was abolished in 1834 by UK and 1865 in US with the 13th Amendment, people were still enslaved with debt bondage indentured slavery and blacks were still discriminated against and treated as inferior sub-humans up to civil rights act of 1964 and beyond up to present time.
Europeans followed this up with scramble to colonise Africa 1884-1914 taking resources and valuable minerals and mistreating abusing indigenous and implemented apartheid segregated states in South Africa up to 1994 and Rhodesia up to 1979.
Reparation for Colonialism of Africa should be included Reparations for Atlantic Slave Trade remit in my opinion.
The Colonialism and Slavery was implemented by Royal Families and Heads of State who made untold wealth passed down through generations from exploitation of black race and Governments and Crowns are liable for hefty remedial recompense to make good on their damage inflicted.
Majority in BU think tank would be stakeholders in any reparations process / project, producing white papers in feasibility studies and planning. But Slave Reparations issues are bigger scope than the whole of Barbados. Like MLK they may not reach to see the changes they seek in their life but can provide useful service to humanity and equality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uxiF663ry8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLoEyy7nH_M
@ David
I agree “The location of an airline should be informed by due diligence performed by professionals,” and not determined by the ‘whims and fancies’ of selfish Gaston Browne, who seems to believe Antiguans have some special entitlement to benefit from LIAT or any other airline that replaces it.
As it relates to your comment about ‘insularity,’ the United States Cricket Hall of Fame has recommended former CWI president Dave Cameron for the post of chairman of the International Cricket Council (ICC). Since Cameron will require the support of two full members of the ICC, he intends to seek endorsement from CWI.
I’m wondering if Cameron will be supported by CWI……. or chairman of the CARICOM subcommittee on cricket, Ralph Gonsalves. Recall Gonsalves was consistently critical of Cameron, while openly ‘canvassing’ for Vincentian, Dr. Kishore Shallow to be elected as vice-president, in last year’s CWI presidential elections.
He was quoted as having said “Skerritt and Shallow were ‘modern Caribbean personalities steeped within our Caribbean civilisation,’ and possessed the ideas to take West Indies cricket forward.”
It’s highly unlikely he would now believe Cameron possesses ideas to take world cricket forward.
It will be very interesting ‘to see how this plays out.’
@Artax
Interesting supporting point about Cameron and the possibility of him being recommended to head ICC. Do not anticipate the power elite of cricket will permit it. What it does is to expose the fragility of the regional movement. The UWI, CDB, LIAT, CXC and CWI probably represent the pillars of the regional project. Are we happy with how the entities are being managed with the goal of bringing the region together?
Hal AustinJune 28, 2020 6:08 AM
@ Quaker John
Mess with me? Do you mean fabricating a story? As I have said on numerous occasions on BU, do not assume what I mean. I ask the questions I want answered. The problem is not what I am comfortable with, but the historical truth.
As I said, you answer the questions you want to answer, regardless to if they were asked. Two things about that. My experience and training and, as to my ignorance of history, well spotted. I am so ignorant that it surprises me when I write my name. I did not go to Harrison College, nor did I get a Barbados Scholarship.
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There you go fabricating a response to me.
Historical Fact – George Fox was the most prominent Quaker in America ….. or Barbados.
Historical Fact – George Fox owned no slaves.
Therefore the answer to the question “Were prominent Quakers, especially in the US, slave owners?” is NO, DEFINITELY NOT.
But some did.
Because a Quaker was prominent did not guarantee slave ownership.
I gave the example of William Sharpe in Barbados.
You phrased your question to get the answer it deserved!!
Even if you had gone to HC and won 10 Barbados scholarships, the question got its deserved answer.
‘Therefore the answer to the question “Were prominent Quakers, especially in the US, slave owners?” is NO, DEFINITELY NOT.
But some did.”
Question: “Were prominent Quakers, especially in the US, slave owners?”
Answer:
“No.
Some were, some weren’t..”
It seem as if you are tying yourself in needless knots. Why not say “Yes. some did”
I like an element of precision.
I realised from my experience with lawyers (>30 years) that a question can be answered correctly but convey an element of imprecision and mislead.
Just me.
Meanwhile here is an example of the top general in George Washington’s Army who was a prominent Quaker.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathanael_Greene
Clearly all Quakers were not pacifists!!
Incidentally, he acquired slaves when he moved to the south after the War of Independence.
It was lawful there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathanael_Greene
“After resigning his commission, Greene returned to Newport. Facing a large amount of debt, he relocated to the South to focus on the plantations he had been awarded during the war, and he made his home at the Mulberry Grove Plantation outside of Savannah. Though he had spoken against slavery earlier in his life, Greene purchased slaves to work his plantations.[79] In 1784, Greene declined appointment to a commission tasked with negotiating treaties with Native Americans, but he agreed to attend the first meeting of the Society of the Cincinnati.[80]”
Had he lived in Pennsylvania at the time he would have found the law prohibited the ownership of slaves.
http://pacivilwar150.com/Understand/SlaveryandFreedom.html
Had he lived in Rhode Island where he was born he would have found “In 1652, Rhode Island passed the first abolition law in the Thirteen Colonies banning slavery, but the law was not enforced by the end of the 17th century.”
Why not say “Yes. some did”
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Grasshopper
Because I know the poem IF!!
If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!
There are alot of fools and knaves on BU!!
(1) I suspect being the scholar you are, you memorized it. If only you understood it.
(2 And there are knaves who think the rest are fools.
Quaker and slaves
“Sometimes you can learn things from the way a person denies something. The choice of lies can be almost as helpful as the truth. ” Laurell K. Hamilton
@ Quaker John
It is obvious that John Fox is not Quakers (plural. I am sure they taught you well at Kolij). Answer the question I ask and not what you want me to ask.
Now it appears as if you are clearly a devious character, if only on Quaker history, I will attribute that characteristic to other forms of your behaviour. In a blog packed with anonymous characters it is important to be honest. See how easy it is to destroy a reputation?
By the way, at my stage in life I would not want to go to Harrison College or get a Barbados Scholarship. I have seen what both experiences have done to people on BU and in public life in Barbados.
@ John June 27, 2020 9:39 PM
“Wellington was chosen probably because of the Duke of Wellington who was successfully fighting Napoleon in the Peninsular war and the victor of Waterloo at the time of the birth of Mary Lydia’s 3 children.”
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Here we go again regaling other people’s ‘white’ heroes.
So Wellington (instead of Nelson) is now the new saviour of Barbados from French conquest?
So where is the ‘erection’ in honour of this great English man who defeated the great Frenchman called Napoleon?
The question to you is who was the greater warrior in the eyes of the Christian Barbadians?
The pro-slavery Nelson or the greatest military general Britain ever produced and who actually defeated the French and saved ‘white’ Barbadians from eating frogs?
So here is a compendium of names who can assign to your in vitro grandson(s):
Lord King Louis Nelson Wellington Napoleon Duke of Knoxville!
Do you, do you remember those days of slavery?
It wasn’t black man alone, who died through bravery
‘Though some a dem threw dem self over board
Because dis ya slaveship overload
It wasn’t black man alone, that really really suffer as slaves
But we suffer the hardest way until today
Some a dem commit suicide
And through disease we caught some a dem died
De whole world a cry, dem a cry, dem a cry, dem a cry
Do you, do you remember those days of slavery?
through crooked rocks, dangerous ocean
In ya dis ya civilisation
Me said-a do you, do you really remember
When it was the day of slavery?
Chiney man, Indian, white man died through bravery
But as black man we suffer as slave
The hardest way until today
But a-so dey say, but a-so, but a-so dey say
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV1yN64NOBs
Wow !! What an education? I would not miss this for the ?world? .
I learnt two great new words today.
Cataphatic and apophatic.
I’ll do some study to fathom their applicability to the recent QA session.
Hal
You are too predictable!!
@Quaker John
Thanks. Consistency. I have always been complimented on my interrogative techniques. I call it drilling down on lies. You are lucky you did not have to face me professionally, you would be torn apart. I love nothing more than people with passive/aggressive attitudes.
You like it, but you are not very good at it. Unlike those who get hysterical with you, proving you are a fabricator is like taking candy from a baby.
Even now in retirement some of my old tabloid colleagues still get in touch. They remember the good old days.
David/Artax
I’m confused, isn’t there consensus that Cameron wasn’t good at his job as head of WI Cricket? If that’s the case why should he be supported by a regional body to head ICC?
@Sargeant
It is more about his ability to command the support of a couple member territories. Nothing to do with performance.
This is what a real leader of a Black majority country looks like, this what real progress looks like, in less than 20 years the servants of the people knew they were being paid to do a job and they did it because the President knew he was elected the leader for the people and they did not need to question his actions because they were confident he was working on THEIR BEHALF…..the cities are absolutely beautiful..
“Ô CamerounLike Page
June 10 at 7:04 PM ·
In 19 years, this is what Paul Kagame has done with Rwanda 🇷🇼
DURBAN 1st cleaner capital in Africa.
5th countries in the world in terms of promoting renewable energy
1st most competitive African country in the report of “World Competitiveness Index” (CGI) in front of Nigeria and South Africa.
18th world country, 2th countries in sub-Saharan Africa and 1st East African countries the easiest to do business in front of Côte d ‘ Ivoire and Senegal follow each other at the 139th and 140th in the world ranking (Doing Business).
3th East African countries with average income per head of 595 euros (JA)
3th World country where you get the most easily obtained credit (loan). (Guetting weekly)
1st African countries to have the largest mall in Africa (Convention Center) in Kigali. (JA)
the country of Africa where public health insurance is 98 %. (JA)
Africa country with literacy rates raised to 70 %. (JA)
a country connected with a 4 G network covering more than 95 % of the population (JA)
1st African country to remove a Volkswagen (European) vehicle from its assembly plant (European)
one of the few countries with 98 % school attendance
The list is still long…”
JohnJune 27, 2020 9:39 PM
Samuel Jackman Prescod, born August 6 1806 was baptised on 17 December 1816 when he was 10.
His mother is recorded as Mary Lydia Smith, free mulatto.
At the same time his siblings were also baptised.
Their names were Maria Louisa born on September 22 1810 and Wellington born on November 21 1812.
Wellington was chosen probably because of the Duke of Wellington who was successfully fighting Napoleon in the Peninsular war and the victor of Waterloo at the time of the birth of Mary Lydia’s 3 children.
Maria Louisa may have been chosen because of Maria Luisa of Parma (1782-1824), daughter of Charles IV, King of Spain.
Samuel Jackman Prescod married and produced 4 children so in all likelihood his descendants will be around today.
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What does the baptismal record show?
Lydia Smith preferred not to baptise her children.
It took 10 years for Samuel Jackman Prescod to be presented to the Anglican Church for membership through baptism.
Once she made the decision all of her children were baptised into the Anglican Church.
I venture to say that Lydia Smith was not a member of the Anglican Church in 1806.
I could not find a baptismal record for her.
So to what church did she belong?
Quaker!!!
The Reformed Church if you like.
There is a painting of Samuel Jackman Prescod sitting among participants at the first Anti Slavery Conference held in London in 1840.
Many of the participants were Quakers.
If SJP wasn’t a Quaker he sure had Quaker pedigree and connections as would be explicable if Lydia Smith was a Quaker.
“The World Anti-Slavery Convention met for the first time at Exeter Hall in London, on 12–23 June 1840.[2] It was organized by the British and Foreign Anti-Slavery Society, largely on the initiative of the English Quaker Joseph Sturge.”
“The Society for the Abolition of the Slave Trade was principally a Quaker society founded in the eighteenth century by Thomas Clarkson. ”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Anti-Slavery_Convention#Victuallers
Hal
I put a beautiful puzzle in front of you and predictably you missed it.
In plain sight for heavens sakes.
You don’t seem to understand what baptism is.
If you did you would immediately have pursued a line of questioning that would have led you to an explanation of the anomaly.
… that 10 year delay in the baptism of infants.
Look at the prominent Quakers of the day on display at the first anti-slavery conference at Exeter Hall in England where SJP went to attend.
Do you know where it is?
Do you realise what happened there almost exactly 180 years ago to the day?
I was told and taught from childhood that Quakers ended slavery.
Here it is in living colour.
Somehow you and many others missed a vital part of our history.
So, SJP has taught us some absolutely beautiful history lessons.
We can move on to Sarah Ann Gill next and explore her life as a slave owner and supporter of slavery.
So Hal
Lets return to prominent Quakers in the US and whether they owned slaves.
At the 1840 anti slavery convention SJP would have met several of them, like Lucretia Mott.
Various alliances were made.
“Prior to living in Seneca Falls, Stanton had become an admirer and friend of Lucretia Mott, the Quaker minister, feminist, and abolitionist whom she had met at the World Anti-Slavery Convention in London, England in the spring of 1840 while on her honeymoon. The two women became allies when the male delegates attending the convention voted that women should be denied participation in the proceedings, even if they, like Mott, had been nominated to serve as official delegates of their respective abolitionist societies. After considerable debate, the women were required to sit in a roped-off section hidden from the view of the men in attendance. They were soon joined by the prominent abolitionist, William Lloyd Garrison, who arrived after the vote had been taken and, in protest of the outcome, refused his seat, electing instead to sit with the women.[41]
Mott’s example and the decision to prohibit women from participating in the convention strengthened Stanton’s commitment to women’s rights. By 1848, her early life experiences, together with the experience in London and her initially debilitating experience as a housewife in Seneca Falls, galvanized Stanton. She later wrote:
The general discontent I felt with woman’s portion as wife, housekeeper, physician, and spiritual guide, the chaotic conditions into which everything fell without her constant supervision, and the wearied, anxious look of the majority of women, impressed me with a strong feeling that some active measures should be taken to remedy the wrongs of society in general, and of women in particular. My experience at the World Anti-slavery Convention, all I had read of the legal status of women, and the oppression I saw everywhere, together swept across my soul, intensified now by many personal experiences. It seemed as if all the elements had conspired to impel me to some onward step. I could not see what to do or where to begin—my only thought was a public meeting for protest and discussion.[42]”
So who was Lucretia Mott?
Go Google
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucretia_Mott
Did she own slaves, I think not.
So Hal
I am going to set you a task so you too can learn how to learn.
See if there is a link between Lucretia Mott and this Quaker company whose products we all enjoy to this day.
1842: Samuel R. Mott starts making and selling cider and vinegar in Bouckville, New York.
1900: The Mott Company merges with the W.B. Duffy Cider Company, creating Duffy-Mott.
1914: Duffy-Mott is incorporated in New York.
1929: Duffy-Mott acquires the Standard Apple Products Company.
1933: Duffy-Mott begins producing prune juice.
1938: Duffy-Mott introduces Mott’s Apple Juice.
1958: Duffy-Mott completes its initial public offering of stock.
1982: Cadbury Schweppes acquires Duffy-Mott.
1987: The Mr. & Mrs. T brand is acquired.
1999: The Hawaiian Punch brand is acquired.
2001: ReaLime and ReaLemon are acquired.
2002: During the previous four years, annual sales for Mott’s double.
For all the lowlife lawyers who knew these Articles of Human Rights existed and malicously hoped to hide them from Black populations for another 50 years, read and weep, by the time am done, every African descended person on the earth will be able to recite them verbatim and so will their children and grandchildren.
The African descended in the Caribbean, in the Diaspora and on the African Continent have the right as the ORIGINAL and indigenous peoples of the earth all have the international and universal right to be indigenous, no country or governments/states have any right to reduce them to brainwashed, mentally damaged, empty colonial shells or slaves. And no taxpayer paid but exceedingly corrupt judicial system and their treacherous taxpayer paid employees have any right to deny us our legal human rights.
▼Article VIII.
Right to belong to indigenous peoples
Indigenous individuals and communities have the right to
belong to one or more indigenous peoples, in accordance
with the identity, traditions, customs, and systems of
belonging of each people. No discrimination of any kind
may arise from the exercise of such a right.
▼Article IX.
Juridical personality
States shall recognize fully the juridical personality of
indigenous peoples, respecting indigenous forms of
organization and promoting the full exercise of the rights
recognized in this Declaration.
@ Quaker John
Although I promise myself to ignore you with your intellectual masturbation, your constant lying and misrepresentation gets me so angry. Who is talking about prominent Quakers in the US? That idea came from your corrupt mind. I was talking about prominent Quakers ie on planet Earth.
I realise it is an addiction with you, catapulting Quakerism to the centre of historical morality. It is a myth. It is just that I do not want to see you mislead the blog as many people on BU just accept what they read. This time I will not respond no matter what.
World is moving forwards
John is moving backwards
after 300 years of slavery in America
there was 100 years of segregation
and then 50 years of white supremacy racism legacy
Police in USA treat Blacks like Israel treats Palestinians today
Slaves from West Africa were Muslims not Christians
The original man is the Afroasiatic man
The original people in Israel were Black
Jews were Black and Brown
Jesus was not white
Europeans started discovering and settling in America from 1500 with Spanish and Christopher Columbus and John Hawkins 1562.
Jamestown in Virginia was the first English settlement in Americas in 1607.
Quakers originated in England in 17th Century but were persecuted when they believed presence of God exists in every person.
Quakers prohibited their Slavery in 1776 when GB lost Civil War of Independence.
Hal AustinJune 28, 2020 4:33 AM
Were prominent Quakers, especially in the US, slave owners?
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That was your question to me.
So let’s see, what other prominent Quakers can I think of especially in the US?
Daniel Boone was a Quaker..
“Like Penn, Squire Boone belonged to the Society of Friends, or Quakers, a group whose members faced persecution in England for their beliefs. In 1720, Squire married fellow Quaker Sarah Morgan and Daniel, the sixth of the couple’s 11 children, was born in 1734 in present-day Berks County, Pennsylvania.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Boone
“Boone was initially prosperous, owning seven slaves by 1787 (a relatively large number for Kentucky at the time),[38] but began to have financial troubles while living in Limestone.”
So if you were to compare his slave ownership with that of Lydia Smith in Barbados you would conclude there was not much difference.
There is every likelihood that Lydia Smith, mother of SJP was a prominent Quaker, just like Daniel Boone and that both owned a similar number of slaves.
Hal AustinJune 29, 2020 4:00 AM
@ Quaker John
Who is talking about prominent Quakers in the US?
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Why you of course.
Yeah and for the jackasses who don’t know, Israel is part of Africa…
WURA-War-on-UJune 29, 2020 9:31 AM
Yeah and for the jackasses who don’t know, Israel is part of Africa…
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Here I was always thinking it was a part of Asia Minor.
What Black John don’t know is that the last Black Queen of Hawaii was robbed of her crown by quakers…they stole that Hawain business and everything else they could get their hands in US, they were just ya garden variety common class thieves…;;jsut as they were common class enslavers who still continued to commit crimes against the African descended in Barbados and the Caribbean up until the 1970s.
you are welcome.
Hal
You are out of your league and don’t even realise it.
You don’t even seem to understand such a basic concept as Baptism.
But then alot didn’t and don’t.
You don’t appreciate the importance of the Reformation nor what it was.
I admit I was once naive/ignorant like you but I made an effort to understand.
While I learnt about it with Captain Hutt the era was the 1960’s when things religious were frowned on and removed from the school curricula.
Go and read GP’s Sweet Sunday Sermon about what the Church is.
You will grasp why the Reformation occurred and what exactly the Reformation was targeted at Reforming.
Quakers are the last group of dissenters/no-conformists coming out of the Reformation generally considered to have occurred between 1517 and 1648.
ya may be better off not thinking, especially when those maps were drawn up by racist, enslaving colonialists…there is no such thing as the middle east, it’s just another colonial construct, a delusion and fantasy…a myth.
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