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Submitted by Tee White (article submitted to the Nation newspaper)

Dear Editor

I was shocked to read your article in the Nation of 18 June, which reported that Minister of Culture, John King, is opposed to ‘dumping Nelson’.

Mr King is, of course, right that everybody can form their own personal opinions about any issue, including that of racism. However, the problem is that as Minister of Culture, he represents the people of Barbados. How would it reflect on our country if in international meetings he is defending the maintenance of statues glorifying racists and mass murderers even as countries all over the world are removing these offensive objects from the public space?

Mr King says that he has been reading the cabinet papers from previous discussions of this matter but demonstrates a shocking lack of understanding of the issue. I will pass without comment his preposterous statement that removing symbols that glorify racism, such as Nelson’s statue, amounts to visiting the horrors of chattel slavery on others. He appears to think that taking a stand against racism amounts to excluding non-Africans from the history of Barbados. According to this logic, every Bajan of non-African descent supports anti-African racism and the glorification of its architects. This is a terrible insult to those Bajans of non-African descent who strongly oppose racism and also demand the removal of statues and monuments that glorify it. Is John King not aware that the earliest rebellions in Barbados saw enslaved Africans and indentured Irish people fighting together against the oppressive powers of that time? Does he not see across the whole globe that millions of people of all nationalities and colours are taking a united stand against racism, and those who seek to glorify it?

The thing is that the foundation of racism, upon which modern Barbados was established, cannot be incorporated into any new Barbados in which we simply see each other as human beings because racism is opposed exactly to this concept and insists on categorising people into superior and inferior groups. That is why today, people are demanding that racism has no place in the modern world. You cannot defend racism and its symbols and at the same time claim to be against it. Would anyone take Germany seriously if it claimed to be against Nazism while maintaining statues and other monuments glorifying Hitler and the other leaders of the Nazi regime?

I wonder if Mr King’s comments about the parliament building, the wharf and elsewhere are serious comments. If they are, he really does have no understanding of this issue. Wasn’t Barbados itself around during slavery and playing a part in it? What are we to do with it? Throw it in the sea? The demand is very clear. Statues and monuments are some of the ways in which society honours individuals from the past. Those that glorify racists and people involved in the commission of crimes against humanity should be taken down from the public space because they are a statement that the society honours racism and crimes against humanity in the here and now.

There are, of course, many other issues in Barbados that need to be addressed in order to build a new and inclusive society that works for all Barbadians. However, we will make no headway with these if we are unable to confront and overcome the monster of racism that still disfigures our island. The taking down of Nelson is a small step in this effort.

On this issue, Minister King is quite simply wrong.

Read Minister John King’s article published in the Nation newspaper 18 June 2020


 

King not on board with dumping Nelson

MINISTER OF CULTURE John King is not in support of the wholesale removal of Lord Nelson’s statue in The City.

He told the media yesterday his opinions on Nelson and race on the whole were personal and he would stick by them, even if they cost him.

“There are a number of papers I am now studying, from about 2009, on discussions various Cabinets would have had on this issue, but on a personal note – and I know what I am about to say is going to upset a lot of people – I would agree that if you’re talking about Heroes Square,there are validations to the varied opinions. But I will not – and it could cost me everything – be a part or party of trying to do to others what we say has been done to us,” he said.

Calls for the removal of the statue were made again during last Saturday’s protest march through Bridgetown in support of the Black Lives Matter movement in the United Sates and across the world.

King said he did not believe in “stripping down everything and throwing it away”, saying there was a history before slavery and it was now time for a new mindset.

“If you are saying that during enslavement and the colonisation process, that our history, culture and way of life were wiped out and we came into places like the Americas as minorities, why would you now turn around and advocate to do the same thing to somebody else? The discussion we should be having is, if we want to remove this statue, where do we put it?

“How do we recognise the collective history of Barbados is not relegated solely to Barbadians of Afro descent? How do we also incorporate the history of the indigenous people who were here [first]? How do you incorporate

all of the groups that make up Barbados? Let us look at these things for what they are and use them to inspire ourselves to change our prejudices and look at each other as human beings,” he urged.

King said the Parliament Buildings

and the Wharf were around during slavery and played a part in it, asking if those too should be thrown away. He said the Nelson statue should be utilised to the advantage of Barbados while not disadvantaging anyone.

As for the Black Lives Matter movement, King, who as a calypsonian and Pic-O-De-Crop monarch performed social commentaries such as

Fool’s Paradise, How Many More? and I Want A Plantation, said he was accustomed to speaking out against social injustice on his own and would only join any group if and when he felt it necessary.

“I’ve always been advocating against racism, as an entertainer performing overseas and from growing up in England, so I know it well. What is going on in the Unites States has been going on for eons but it is now easier to see due to social media.

“[However] there are other issues right here I don’t hear people talking about, issues some people don’t want to protest, such as classism, which is also a knee on people’s necks. We need to talk about the violence in our own communities . . . and I don’t hear anyone talking about the history of the people we call ‘red legs’ in St John. I hope our future generations find themselves in a different place,” he said.

(CA)

 


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598 responses to “Minister John King is Wrong”

  1. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    They are indescribable, a fullblown REVOLUTION is in progress WORLDWIDE and these house slaves are waiting for it to blow over so they can continue a racist society…their comfort zone…. that has been destroying and damaging the mental, physical and financial wellbeing of their own people for at least 2 generations, including the physical structures of the island….. and they see absolutely nothing wrong with that…

    it leaves a hollow feeling in the pit of your stomach for those who understand what these criminals in DBLP have allowed to play out on the island for 50 years…

  2. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    “It is doubtful if a slave went into his Quaker donated purse and pulled out a few shekels to help build the statue. Would they be still adamant that the statue remain if we could find proof that a master sold a slave or two so as to contribute to the statue’s erection?”

    1813…the only money slavemasters in the parliament were making was from ENSLAVING THE AFRICAN DESCENDED….and to add insult to injury am sure the same slaves are the ones who were beaten to mount the racist statue where it was placed..

    …..so the money generated from enslaving their ancesters requisitioned the statue and the brutalized slaves mounted it on it’s pedestal….i now have a healthy disrespect for the slaveminded on BU trying to convince us that all of this was ok…..maybe to slaves who know no better and don’t care, but not to me, i find it disrespectful and insulting to our ancestors and to us as well…but the idiots on BU would not care about any of that…


  3. Pick almost any surname you like and I will tell you which ones used the christian name Horatio or Nelson or Horatio Nelson.

    In Barbados, in 1891, long after slavery, the practice was still being followed.

    That’s just how it was.

    That’s why the Horatio Cooke Auditorium is called the Horatio Cooke Auditorium.

    Here is the Thompson surname and instances where Horatio was used.

    Name:
    Joseph Nelson Horatio Thomson
    Event Type:
    Christening
    Event Date:
    5 Apr 1891
    Event Place:
    Barbados
    Gender:
    Male
    Father’s Name:
    Robert A. Thomson
    Mother’s Name:
    Susan Hewitt

    Name:
    George Horatio Thompson
    Event Type:
    Birth
    Event Date:
    11 Feb 1859
    Event Place:
    Barbados
    Gender:
    Male
    Father’s Name:
    Robert Thompson
    Mother’s Name:
    Catharine Jane Pilgrim

    A, B, C …… Alphabet

    Example for Ashby

    Name:
    Theresa Elvira Jane Ashby
    Event Type:
    Christening
    Event Date:
    10 Nov 1869
    Event Place:
    Barbados
    Gender:
    Female
    Father’s Name:
    Horatio Nelson Ashby
    Mother’s Name:
    Georgiana Thompson

    Example Burke

    Name:
    Horatio Nelson Burke
    Event Type:
    Burial
    Event Date:
    01 Aug 1808
    Event Place:
    Christ Church, Barbados
    Gender:
    Male

    Name:
    Horatio Cummins
    Event Type:
    Burial
    Event Date:
    24 Oct 1842
    Event Place:
    St Michael, Barbados
    Gender:
    Male


  4. Name:
    Pretoria Renon King
    Event Type:
    Christening
    Event Date:
    22 Jun 1870
    Event Place:
    Barbados
    Gender:
    Female
    Father’s Name:
    Joseph Horatio King
    Mother’s Name:
    Augusta Matilda Montraville Hollingsworth

  5. Critical Analyzer Avatar
    Critical Analyzer

    @WURA-War-on-U June 19, 2020 5:24 PM
    LOL. So bare talk and no money coming forward from you. Apparently you have something better to do with your money just like all the rest of millionaires and billionaires.

    No, thank you on the managing of the rich people money, I not greedy. That is too much stress and I like sleeping with both eyes closed and walking down the road without looking behind my back. I only looking to get some bills and help some friends and family

    I still offering to manage the fund since that is easy money. I charging a small fee of 1% of the account balance on the last day of each month for my troubles. Hardest thing will be to pay back all the people when the fund don’t reach the target but they would know upfront they getting 1% less you will be reimbursed for each month the money stays in the fund.


  6. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @Vincent, come now blog-mate with whom I agree often… surely you don’t call that agreement foolishness, do you… just the facts and reason Codgy… Let’s just dissect the facts and logical reason or as @Theo offers avoid the illogical, “Reductio ad absurdum”!

    If you agree that “Life is change” then I am confounded how you attempt your light analogy (here offered in a convoluted ‘syllogism’ 🙂 ) — Light carriers are bearers of change. Short term thinkers do not bear light. The ‘remove’ BU crew are mere short thinkers.

    No bro…The REMAIN crew are those without light and totally in the dark… your argumentation is so laughable as to be ‘absurd’!
    Like this doozy… “The same way the white people of yesteryear paid to have it put up. The people that want it move or destroyed should do the same and bring forward the money to have it done.”

    @Critical I’ll leave it to the excellent finance guys here to calculate what my ancestors’ unpaid wages from those ‘pre-abolition’ days are in 2020 $$.. then I would ask for any portion of that huge debt and interest outstanding – once duly paid – by any entity or estate of the planter class to go towards the removal…. I didn’t get my 40 acres and mule or any other repayment attempted for that free, back breaking labor!…… I know you were mekking real sport with your remarks but I’m NOT.

    The benefactors built that statute on the back of free labour (healthy profits) from my (our) kith and kin… give me my money and damn straight I will put some to pull it down… otherwise it’s the duty of my government!

    So… there goes my foolishness for the evening!

  7. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    To clarify “your argumentation” means the ‘remain’ crew!


  8. Flying in the face of what is part of our culture is not going to work out well and will make alot of people look absolutely stupid, ignorant and arrogant.

    Bajans adopted Horatio or Nelson or Horatio Nelson as names for their children from 1798.

    The practice is found in the Slave population and the white population.

    To deny this is to deny a fact.

    If you choose to look in American records you will find the same.

    Horatio Nelson just rocked!!

    That is a simple fact of our culture and many other countries.

    Just how it is!!
    .

  9. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    They can’t even have a little empathy for their enslaved ancestors and someone should re-elect them to the parliament again, they should get a healthy GO TO HELL…..from the electorate.

  10. Critical Analyzer Avatar
    Critical Analyzer

    @de pedantic Dribbler
    I was definitely jesting about managing the fund but I was very serious about the people so passionate about the statue to start raising funds for said move if they feel so strongly about it.

    A simple matter of people putting their money where their mouth is. Nobody is going to dare start the fund because we all know it probably will not break one or two thousand dollars and become a major laughing stock in the country and kill all this talk in one.

  11. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @555, He KNOWS that “Slaves were allocated ‘christian’ names by owners”, This man deliberately uses his “..mind to interpret history […] wrong”,

    As the Blogmaster says he OBFUSCATES which is a $50 word for the simple word ‘LIE’ .. we have to use high value words these days about a President or anyone like him who deliberately spews falsehoods!

    His posts shows his anger and one assumes desperation to be heard… that he is now known as a pathological twister of historical facts appears to be lost on him!


  12. “Horatio Nelson just rocked”

    You suck

    Did these people have wide knowledge of names to pick from

    your mum Marjorie RIP did not have much of imagination to name you a boring old John after a Scottish Minister


  13. “His posts shows his anger and one assumes desperation to be heard… that he is now known as a pathological twister of historical facts appears to be lost on him!”

    He should be happy slapped and filmed
    he deserves slaps for just making up shit and posting shit
    punching is reserved for real men

  14. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    “So bare talk and no money coming forward from you. Apparently you have something better to do with your money just like all the rest of millionaires and billionaires.”

    there is a big difference, i did not tief money from the Bajan people and i sure as hell will not put my money in any of their hands so they can tief it too…and then get some poor dudes from the ghetto to move the statue for free….i was born at night not last night…

    ah heard they all got laundered money to burn and their own money laundering bank too, ya should really talk to them..


  15. Here are some Holder records in Barbados where Horatio was used as a Christian name.

    Name
    Events
    Relationships
    View
    Horatio Fitz Berrisford Holder
    Principal
    Barbados Baptisms, 1739-1891
    christening:
    13 November 1862
    Barbados
    father:

    Joshua Holder
    mother:
    Ann Thomas Boxill Holder
    View attached tree person(s)
    View the record details

    Horatio Norman Holder
    Principal
    Barbados Baptisms, 1739-1891
    birth:
    3 May 1882
    Barbados
    mother:
    Mary Holder
    View the record details

    Horatio Albert Scott Holder
    Principal
    Barbados Baptisms, 1739-1891
    christening:
    4 October 1884
    Barbados
    father:
    Edward Thomas Holder
    mother:
    Loretta Tull Holder
    View the record details

    Abraham Horatio Holder
    Principal
    Barbados Church Records, 1637-1887
    baptism:
    6 July 1839
    St James, Barbados
    father:
    Abraham Holder
    mother:
    Mary Jane Holder
    View the record details
    View the image

    Horatio Nelson Holder
    Principal
    Barbados Church Records, 1637-1887
    baptism:
    1 February 1845
    St Joseph, Barbados
    View the record details
    View the image

    Horatio Holder
    Father
    Barbados Baptisms, 1739-1891
    spouse:
    Mary Licorish Holder
    children:
    Charles Henry Holder
    View the record details


  16. It is what it is!!


  17. Who said that crime does not pay? Christopher Colombus brought incredible wealth to Spain and that chap Lord Nelson was also fairly competent. We reward these crooks in perpetuity by commemorating them with statues mounted on the the sturdiest of pedestals.

    Dirty money was used to build public buildings named after them. Some were recognised as being great philanthropes. Whilst some countries celebrate these figures by having a national day to celebrate their achievements. Some here on BU along with Minister John King appear indifferent to the horrors encountered by their ancestors.

    Look at the names of some 5 elite US based families who made their fortunes, primarily, in the Opium Trade.

    At this rate we will soon be celebrating the achievements of our very own minority criminals as they build their places of worship and low grade eating houses whilst providing much needed employment to the pitiful black masses.

    https://www.alternet.org/2015/06/5-elite-families-fortunes-opium-trade/

  18. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    Saw an article where Adonijah has been lamenting that the majority population has not gotten justice for a very long time in Barbados despite having two black governments rotating in and out of the parliament the people continue to fund, the judiciary they continue to fund and have for decades…

    Barbados is a disgrace, no matter which fraud PM of the moment says otherwise with their mouths filled with lies….and people are making absolutely sure that the world finds out how deceitful and vicioius they all are to their own people…


  19. Sandiford’s

    Name
    Events
    Relationships
    View
    Horatio Brandford Sandiford
    Principal
    Barbados Baptisms, 1739-1891
    christening:
    September 1856
    Barbados
    mother:
    Georgiana Sandiford
    View the record details

    Seifert Horatio Sandiford
    Principal
    Barbados Baptisms, 1739-1891
    christening:
    1 April 1887
    Barbados
    mother:
    Martha Sandiford
    View the record details


  20. An elite family which made a fortune after the slave Trade was abolished in 1807 by England and 1808 by America was the de Boiserie family.

    P is for prohibition and P for profits!!

    “Eric Williams was a descendant from the de Boissiere family which made its fortune trading African slaves illegally after slave trading had been abolished in 1807. Williams specialised in the study of the abolition of the slave trade”


  21. But for the folks running slaves illegally after 1807/8, there would have been far fewer slaves in the US at the time of the Civil war.

  22. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    Something needs to be done about these racism and apartheid enabling dirty black governments in Barbados, this cannot continue into another generation….whatever is necessary to expose them must be done….both DBLP governments should be brought up to international courts on human rights charges, not to mention all the corruption, thefts from the people and all manner of human rights violations for the last 40-50 years…time to act on this, the international laws are available to do something about the black trash that believe, once elected, they are entitled to rob the people and violate their basic rights…

    “Successive Barbadian Governments including the current administration are being charged with turning a blind eye to “institutionalized racism” and “colonial laws”, which continue to destroy the lives of citizens in working class and Rastafarian communities.

    Spokesperson for the Council for the Advancement of Rastafari (ICAR) Adonijah declared that as Barbadians prepare to march against racism and police brutality for the second straight week, they ought to focus more heavily on the inequities perpetuated against black people by “black governments”, who refuse to address issues like marijuana legislation and the continued abuse of vendors – many of whom also practice Rastafari.”

  23. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    So what now, how do the black ass racists and thieves in the parliament think they look to the world now..


  24. THESE COCONUT BLP MINISTERS AND BLP SENATORS CONTINUE TO TREAT LOCAL BLACKS AS IDIOTS AND PAWNS IN THEIR GAMES TO PROTECT THEIR WHITE MASTERS EVEN RUSHING TO CHANGE LEGISLATION IMPACTING NEGATIVELY ON BLACK WORKERS.

    THIS ONE INVOLVED IN OVER $4 MILLION NO TENDER GARBAGE CONTRACT AND NOW LOOKING OUT FOR HIS ‘WHITE TOURISM MASTERS” AT THE DETRIMENT OF BLACK LOCALS.

    BHTA chief backs hotels in Senate

    The head of Barbados Hotel and Tourism Association (BHTA) has defended the association’s members against criticisms over unpaid social security and severance debts and mistreatment of workers, particularly during the pandemic crisis.

    Senator Rudy Grant declared that the vast majority of hoteliers are “decent employers” who comply with labour laws and treat workers with respect.

    The BHTA chief executive officer, who was speaking Wednesday on the Severance Payments (Amendment) Bill in the Senate, said that most hoteliers are interested in their workers.

    Senator Grant said: “I stand on the floor of this Chamber and I am confident in saying that the vast majority of the hotels in Barbados function upright and are interested in their workers.

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2020/06/19/bhta-chief-backs-hotels-in-senate/

    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    TWO YEARS OF CONSTANT PROMISES OF INTEGRITY BUT NO RUSH.

    CAN ANYONE GUESS WHY?

    AG’s promise

    The much-touted Integrity in Public Life Bill and supporting pieces of legislation will be made into law in time for Independence this year (2019), Attorney General and Minister of Legal Affairs Dale Marshall has promised.

    Insisting that the Mia Mottley-led administration was taking a “zero tolerance” approach to corruption, Marshall said the time for lip service had come to an end.

    “Let me begin by putting your minds at ease. Our Integrity in Public Life Bill will be proclaimed before the end of this year (2019), and I am earnestly hoping that we can put everything in place so that it can be proclaimed before the end of the first half of the financial year. Rest assured that we will deliver this bill and much more,” Marshall promised the business community on Wednesday.

    “We have just started and we still have a way to go but I am confident that all of the legislative instruments will pass through out Parliament successfully within the next three months and will be proclaimed and become law in time for Independence celebrations,” he said.

    Marshall was addressing a special Barbados Chamber of Commerce and Industry (BCCI) breakfast meeting at the Hilton Resort under the theme Guided by Integrity: Moving Towards Good Governance and Reduced Corruption.

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2019/06/27/ags-promise/

  25. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    PLT and others have a movement that is looking good on FB.

    can’t stop the worldwide revolution….it is not a trend…dumbass.


  26. DLP & BLP POLITICIANS WILL RIGHTLY CONTINUE TO TREAT MANY LOCALS AS FOOLS WHO BELIEVE THEM

    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    AG blames COVID-19 for anti-corruption delay

    New corruption-fighting agencies are yet to get off the ground, the Attorney General acknowledged today, as he blamed the delay on the ongoing fight against the COVID-19 pandemic.

    But AG Dale Marshall said the groundwork has been laid and the funding identified to establish the watchdogs.

    Marshall made this disclosure yesterday as he appeared in a virtual conference of the Commonwealth Caribbean Associations of Integrity Commissioners & Anti-Corruption Bodies.

    Marshall told the meeting Barbados had to divert all of its resources to keep the country afloat just when Government was on the cusp of establishing an Integrity in Public Life Commission.

    He said: “The resources that we would have made available to establish those agencies, to staff them independently and completely are now having to be diverted to ensure that we have ventilators [and that] those people who have been thrown on the unemployment line have food.

    “Our current experiences are that we have had about 45,000 Barbadians applying to the National Insurance Scheme for unemployment benefits and our unemployment rate has now skyrocketed from just over ten to 30 per cent.

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2020/06/11/ag-blames-covid-19-for-anti-corruption-delay/

  27. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    That is how they lie to the people all the time..

    this is how those criminals rob their own people all the time, those in Barbados’ parliament are famous for this particular crime, they get wealthy from this scam….and have been robbing the treasury like this for decades and decades….to hear the stories, every health minister, both dead and alive, have robbed the treasury in this same manner without fail..

    “Zim health minister arrested over company linked to Namibia

    The Zimbabwe Anti-Corruption Commission has arrested health minister Dr Obadiah Moyo over the procurement of Covid-19 material using Jaji Investments – a company registered in Namibia. Jaji, owned by Garikai Prince Mushininga, bought the test kits from China for US$300 but charged the Zimbabwean government N$66 000. https://www.eaglefm.com.na/…/zim-health-minister-arrested-…/


  28. Barbados has world class muscians. Go to You Tube and listen. That mix with Lil Rick is awesome.

    The Nicholas Brancker Band “Feting Family ” Featuring Mikey..
    The Nicholas Brancker Band ” Fur Elise ”
    The ” Remash ” Series


  29. So some Planters paid for Nelson’s monument, were any slaves paid for their labour in the construction of this monument?


  30. This may help


  31. The Minister’s comments are an embarrassment. The is a world wide REVOLUTION on going even the black people everywhere are speaking out and protesting against racism and its inherent oppression. This is the perfect time to dismantle the structure everywhere.

    The statute must be taken down.

  32. Vincent Codrington Avatar
    Vincent Codrington

    @ John at10:PM
    Thanks, John. It was worth the listen.I hope other commenters listened also.


  33. @Vincent

    Steele is a FOX news, Conservative, Republican talking head?

    https://youtu.be/wOhYqNbXGbE

  34. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    Heather…that’s a nobrainer, let the shitehound slaveminded try to put it back up, they should get their asses beaten with a slave whip…

    Something for BUs slaveminded and the Johnnie in the parliament to reflect on.

    https://thegrio.com/2020/06/19/michelle-obama-juneteenth/

    a direct correlation to the evil racist shit still happening in Barbados and to the Black population who fund the country, who are still the target for these criminal acts against themselves and perpetrated by repulsive corrupt, racist black governments….Black on Black racism in all its ugly.

    “Her grandfathers were both the grandchildren of slaves.

    “They grew up in the Jim Crow South and migrated north in search of a better life,” she wrote. “But even then, they were still shut out of jobs and schools and opportunities because of the color of their skin,” she wrote.”

  35. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    This is the whole article from Adonijah, let the dirty racist government come out and show all their pride now they have been fully exposed to the world…now they can no longer use their scams and tricks to fool the gullible to oppress them..

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2020/06/19/black-govts-suppressing-black-people-icar/?fbclid=IwAR1RIukWdmqydHREVAUO_XeRYFkoNv28YkhvawhwARsBbjualAHO5y_NQO8


  36. Black Up
    Up! Up! Up!
    DofBU should Black Out Trump Crap on BU as he likes to goad the Blacks like silly old John Know All Know the BU troll spam does
    Conservatives are the AWB Afrikaners and are out of here like Elvis
    This is your wake up call

  37. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    Heather…. you have a real big part to play too, in your own style.

    The black population negatively impacted by the racism and oppression perpetrated on them by black face governments on the island have already started organizing….it is a right under international law to tear down these evil twin demons that they are determned to keep in play generationally. They either tear it down and dismantle the whole stinking system as i have been telling them the same week they got elected or there are some of us more determined than them to see them IMPRISONED one way or the other for one thing or the other…..their choice.

    “Wide swaths of the nation have now coalesced behind the unifying call, “Black Lives Matter,” even as a recession keeps millions of Americans out of work and the coronavirus pandemic continues to rise and ebb in communities across the country. With black liberation now at the forefront of the national discourse, and with radical, abolitionist demands like defund the police and shutting down prisons receiving more mainstream attention than ever before, much of Garza’s advice for organizing—and for remaining resilient and steadfast in the face of crisis—still applies.”


  38. “They grew up in the Jim Crow South and migrated north in search of a better life,” she wrote.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    That’s the key, get out of Dysfunctional America and go to Functional America.

    The alternative is to vote Republican.

    There you have it,

    Just shows how much smarter people were in the past.


  39. “But even then, they were still shut out of jobs and schools and opportunities because of the color of their skin,” she wrote.”

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    So let me get this right.

    The former first lady of the United States of America is complaining about lack of opportunity.

    Give me a break!!


  40. HELL FALL
    I AM GLAD

    The Upsetters
    Righteous Rocking
    Rehearsal Part One
    Rehearsal Part Two

  41. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    Nothing should be tolerated from racists and their racist enablers….shut them ALL down permanently and with extreme prejudice.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/minnesota-twins-calvin-griffith-statue_n_5eed23a1c5b69a7443833f37

    “While we acknowledge the prominent role Calvin Griffith played in our history, we cannot remain silent and continue ignoring the racist comments he made in Waseca in 1978,” the Twins said in a statement Friday. “His disparaging words displayed a blatant intolerance and disregard for the black community that are the antithesis of what the Minnesota Twins stand for and value.”

    Griffith moved the Washington Senators to Minnesota for the 1961 season, and the franchise was renamed the Twins.

    During a speech in Minnesota to a Waseca Lions club in 1978, he said he decided to make the move “when I found out you only had 15,000 blacks here,” the Minneapolis Tribune reported at the time.”


  42. DavidJune 20, 2020 12:43 AM

    @Vincent

    Steele is a FOX news, Conservative, Republican talking head?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Steele is reinforcing the Moynihan Report from 1965.

    Moynihan was a Democrat!!

    “The report concluded that the structure of family life in the black community constituted a ‘tangle of pathology… capable of perpetuating itself without assistance from the white world,’ and that ‘at the heart of the deterioration of the fabric of Negro society is the deterioration of the Negro family. It is the fundamental source of the weakness of the Negro community at the present time.’ Also, the report argued that the matriarchal structure of black culture weakened the ability of black men to function as authority figures. That particular notion of black familial life has become a widespread, if not dominant, paradigm for comprehending the social and economic disintegration of late 20th-century black urban life.[8]”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Negro_Family:_The_Case_For_National_Action


  43. Perhaps if the word Negro is replaced by African American it might read better but it would still be true.


  44. “The former first lady of the United States of America is complaining about lack of opportunity.”

    John Boy from Walton Mountain still does not get it

    1 black promotion is not a sign of equality for all blacks

    Re: White Privilege
    You must be getting a semi-erection and getting all wet in anticipation excited for Trumps KKK Revival Rallies Kicking Off Today
    and all the Ignorant Internet Trolling you can do on the Underground like a fukkkwit


  45. To a lesser extent whites and hispanics have similar problems.

    Asians are least afflicted and are more likely to have strong family units.

    Asians excel in STEM and percentage wise, dominate college enrollment.

    It’s all in the family.


  46. In the introduction to his report, Moynihan said that “the gap between the Negro and most other groups in American society is widening.”[6] He also said that the collapse of the nuclear family in the black lower class would preserve the gap between possibilities for Negroes and other groups and favor other ethnic groups. He acknowledged the continued existence of racism and discrimination within society, despite the victories that blacks had won by civil rights legislation.[6]

    Moynihan concluded, “The steady expansion of welfare programs can be taken as a measure of the steady disintegration of the Negro family structure over the past generation in the United States.”[7]

    More than 30 years later, S. Craig Watkins described Moynihan’s conclusions: Representing: Hip Hop Culture and the Production of Black Cinema (1998):

    The report concluded that the structure of family life in the black community constituted a ‘tangle of pathology… capable of perpetuating itself without assistance from the white world,’ and that ‘at the heart of the deterioration of the fabric of Negro society is the deterioration of the Negro family. It is the fundamental source of the weakness of the Negro community at the present time.’ Also, the report argued that the matriarchal structure of black culture weakened the ability of black men to function as authority figures. That particular notion of black familial life has become a widespread, if not dominant, paradigm for comprehending the social and economic disintegration of late 20th-century black urban life.[8]


  47. In the introduction to his report, Moynihan said that “the gap between the Negro and most other groups in American society is widening.”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Since 1965, let’s see, 55 years ago, I was but a lad.


  48. Before the the rise of the civil rights movement and Jim Crow.

  49. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    ?? @John, you are a joker, and not the comedic type!

    If the simple truism from the former first lady causes you to need a break then please take one and ideally stay away!

    @Vincent, what’s so sterling about the speech…

    How can he start as he does saying the the 1964 Civil Rights Act and ’65 Votings Rights Act was IHO the greatest moment in US history (recognising the indignity of racism etc) and get to his “white guilt is Black power”.. . The latter is BS.

    @David, the gent certainly validates his conservative credentials with his ‘interesting’ conclusions from his deep research.

    He speaks strongly that white supremacy led the world extensively and yet then makes a case against ‘affirmative action’ and preferences to rebalance those endless years of denial.

    Steeupse!

    Clearly there are valid issues re the break down of the father/mother family dynamic vrs the single mother/wayward father model and too the negativity of the welfare system but these and other issues cannot be sketched into narrative of some ‘white guilt’.

    And that Blacks did not know how to deal with achieving their freedom … that it was a “humiliation and pain”.

    In short, there is a ” fear of freedom” or (in my words) that we needed the white folks to direct us… WTBadword….

    No wonder this is an @John recommendation…

    Here I agree with him .. ‘give me a freaking break’!

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