Submitted by Tee White (article submitted to the Nation newspaper)
Dear Editor
I was shocked to read your article in the Nation of 18 June, which reported that Minister of Culture, John King, is opposed to ‘dumping Nelson’.
Mr King is, of course, right that everybody can form their own personal opinions about any issue, including that of racism. However, the problem is that as Minister of Culture, he represents the people of Barbados. How would it reflect on our country if in international meetings he is defending the maintenance of statues glorifying racists and mass murderers even as countries all over the world are removing these offensive objects from the public space?
Mr King says that he has been reading the cabinet papers from previous discussions of this matter but demonstrates a shocking lack of understanding of the issue. I will pass without comment his preposterous statement that removing symbols that glorify racism, such as Nelson’s statue, amounts to visiting the horrors of chattel slavery on others. He appears to think that taking a stand against racism amounts to excluding non-Africans from the history of Barbados. According to this logic, every Bajan of non-African descent supports anti-African racism and the glorification of its architects. This is a terrible insult to those Bajans of non-African descent who strongly oppose racism and also demand the removal of statues and monuments that glorify it. Is John King not aware that the earliest rebellions in Barbados saw enslaved Africans and indentured Irish people fighting together against the oppressive powers of that time? Does he not see across the whole globe that millions of people of all nationalities and colours are taking a united stand against racism, and those who seek to glorify it?
The thing is that the foundation of racism, upon which modern Barbados was established, cannot be incorporated into any new Barbados in which we simply see each other as human beings because racism is opposed exactly to this concept and insists on categorising people into superior and inferior groups. That is why today, people are demanding that racism has no place in the modern world. You cannot defend racism and its symbols and at the same time claim to be against it. Would anyone take Germany seriously if it claimed to be against Nazism while maintaining statues and other monuments glorifying Hitler and the other leaders of the Nazi regime?
I wonder if Mr King’s comments about the parliament building, the wharf and elsewhere are serious comments. If they are, he really does have no understanding of this issue. Wasn’t Barbados itself around during slavery and playing a part in it? What are we to do with it? Throw it in the sea? The demand is very clear. Statues and monuments are some of the ways in which society honours individuals from the past. Those that glorify racists and people involved in the commission of crimes against humanity should be taken down from the public space because they are a statement that the society honours racism and crimes against humanity in the here and now.
There are, of course, many other issues in Barbados that need to be addressed in order to build a new and inclusive society that works for all Barbadians. However, we will make no headway with these if we are unable to confront and overcome the monster of racism that still disfigures our island. The taking down of Nelson is a small step in this effort.
On this issue, Minister King is quite simply wrong.
Read Minister John King’s article published in the Nation newspaper 18 June 2020
King not on board with dumping Nelson
MINISTER OF CULTURE John King is not in support of the wholesale removal of Lord Nelson’s statue in The City.
He told the media yesterday his opinions on Nelson and race on the whole were personal and he would stick by them, even if they cost him.
“There are a number of papers I am now studying, from about 2009, on discussions various Cabinets would have had on this issue, but on a personal note – and I know what I am about to say is going to upset a lot of people – I would agree that if you’re talking about Heroes Square,there are validations to the varied opinions. But I will not – and it could cost me everything – be a part or party of trying to do to others what we say has been done to us,” he said.
Calls for the removal of the statue were made again during last Saturday’s protest march through Bridgetown in support of the Black Lives Matter movement in the United Sates and across the world.
King said he did not believe in “stripping down everything and throwing it away”, saying there was a history before slavery and it was now time for a new mindset.
“If you are saying that during enslavement and the colonisation process, that our history, culture and way of life were wiped out and we came into places like the Americas as minorities, why would you now turn around and advocate to do the same thing to somebody else? The discussion we should be having is, if we want to remove this statue, where do we put it?
“How do we recognise the collective history of Barbados is not relegated solely to Barbadians of Afro descent? How do we also incorporate the history of the indigenous people who were here [first]? How do you incorporate
all of the groups that make up Barbados? Let us look at these things for what they are and use them to inspire ourselves to change our prejudices and look at each other as human beings,” he urged.
King said the Parliament Buildings
and the Wharf were around during slavery and played a part in it, asking if those too should be thrown away. He said the Nelson statue should be utilised to the advantage of Barbados while not disadvantaging anyone.
As for the Black Lives Matter movement, King, who as a calypsonian and Pic-O-De-Crop monarch performed social commentaries such as
Fool’s Paradise, How Many More? and I Want A Plantation, said he was accustomed to speaking out against social injustice on his own and would only join any group if and when he felt it necessary.
“I’ve always been advocating against racism, as an entertainer performing overseas and from growing up in England, so I know it well. What is going on in the Unites States has been going on for eons but it is now easier to see due to social media.
“[However] there are other issues right here I don’t hear people talking about, issues some people don’t want to protest, such as classism, which is also a knee on people’s necks. We need to talk about the violence in our own communities . . . and I don’t hear anyone talking about the history of the people we call ‘red legs’ in St John. I hope our future generations find themselves in a different place,” he said.
(CA)
Just saw this quote on another forum, it is the COLLECTIVE SENTIMENT of fully awaken and conscious Black minds:
“Any leader who is not constantly talking about BUILDING AND MAINTAINING BLACK OWNED INDUSTRIES IS NOT WORTH OUR TIME”
so it’s fair to say that you DO NOT have any real leaders in Barbados’ parliament…who is worth your time because in over 50 years of a sham independence, not one of them have ever talked about building and maintaining black owned industries, they only deliberately suppress, oppress and stagnate any black person on the island who tries, they systematically destroy black businesses to maintain a minority of corrupt businesses and industries to rob the taxpaying black majority, the pensioners and any other money they can beg or borrow from the international partners.
..what they do work overtime to maintain is a slave society, they work even harder to maintain racism and hatred against their own people.
Barbados has never had any real Black leaders worth the people’s time…..nor their money.
Hal AustinJune 24, 2020 6:23 PM
@ Quaker John
You are again trying to shift the discussion? Are you now accepting that your view of the role of Quakers in the abolition of slavery in Barbados was exaggerated?
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I have always said Christianity ended slavery.
Quakers were Christians and these are the Christians who were at the forefront.
I learnt that at school, except for the Christian bit!!
Anglicans and Evangelical Christians and others joined the movement started by the Quakers.
Quakers moved in influential circles.
The prosperity from their business expertise assured them of the King’s ear.
The most obvious example is William Penn and the King of England.
His father was owed by the King and he converted the debt into land … Pennsylvania, 1681.
Pennsylvania was founded by Quakers, built by Quakers …. no dispute.
That’s where many Bajan Quakers went.
Samuel Carpenter, was a prominent example, he became the Deputy Governor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Carpenter
It’s purpose was to assure Quakers and other persecuted minority sects the right to freedom of worship.
Their influence waned and today Philadelphia, the city of brotherly love is unrecognizable.
Did you know it was once the capital of the United States?
From where do you think the name comes?
Historians miss the influence Quakers had and their connections to the top.
It is not written down clearly and unequivocally.
Did you know William Wilberforce’s wife was a Spooner?
Spooner was a Quaker family name in Barbados … earliest will 1714.
I will leave this one right here. Black people on the island have to start creating their own businesses for themselves, for their own wealth creation, for their futures, the money in the treasury BELONGS TO YOU, it does not belong to any sell out black leaders in the parliament, it does not belong to any tiefing racist minorities who have been sucking and draining your money and futures for decades….stand up to your evil sell out leaders.
this also applies across the Caribbean where the Black majority cannot seem to break the cycles of generational povery and it’s because your leaders sell you out at every opportunity.
…American Blacks are minorities in US, but they are building successful businesses, they have come together as a collective to upgrade themselves and their children’s futures while Barbados wicked leaders stagnate yours, take back what belongs to you…it does not belong to them.
https://youtu.be/E8PBrhFN35c?t=67
Your leaders are so LOW CLASS and sell out nigerish, they can’t even open their mouths about this abomination coming out of UK i posted to BU days ago., but Jamaica did..
“JUST IN: Governor General Sir Patrick Allen says he will ask the Chancellor of the Order of St Michael and St George to review the controversial insignia of the order. It depicts a white man cited as an archangel with his foot on the neck of a black man deemed to be ‘Satan’. Read more here: http://jamaica-gleaner.com/…/gg-seek-review-insignia-depict… #GLNRToda.”y
The stupidity of Black leaders in Barbados, am sure along with wearing all those ridiculous looking ugly ass colonial era hats she wears, the GG is equally proud to be in possession of that abomination of a racist badge….all the palace owned negros would be…at this stage am actually no longer even blaming the cousins in the Palace….for house negro stupidity….since 1966…they have been sell outs..
“KINGSTON, Jamaica — Jamaica is to request a redesign of the badge worn by Governors General since independence, to remove the imagery depicting St Michael standing on the neck of a chained black man, which has become a flashpoint in the protests against racism.
A Government source who is aware of the plans told OBSERVER ONLINE that the talks were underway to review the badge, but said confirmation would have to await an official announcement which is imminent.
Campaigners against the imagery on the badge, representing the Order of St Michael and St George — one of Britain’s highest honours — contend that it is akin to the scene of the May 25 murder of black American George Floyd by a white police officer in Minnesota, USA.
The badge — which is traditionally bestowed by The Queen on ambassadors, diplomats and senior foreign office officials — has become embroiled in the global movement to remove icons of racism, triggered by the Floyd killing.”
Cue up the Barbadian support for the badge
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/22/calls-for-redesign-of-royal-honour-over-offensive-image
Donna…the evil, weakminded colonial brainwashed self proclaimed coloreds, pretend whites, house negro etc already lost both the battle and the war…
Theo…let them come out, waiting for their brain damaged, sell out backsides…that is aching for the vicious sting of a slave whip, genetic memory..
You are deluded ignorant prejudiced and crooked
1655-1740 Maroon rebellions force Britain to offer peace treaties in Jamaica
1775-1783 US War of independence pushed Brits out of America with their Slave Trade
1831 Nat Turner’s Slave rebellion showed the future for slave owners
Making History
History Version
So every time you see me use the term Quaker, or the term Anglican or the term Puritan you can replace those terms by Christian.
America is founded on Christianity as is Barbados, St. Kitts, Tortola, Antigua … probably a few other islands too.++++
Every time you see commenters refer to white supremacy or white privilege replace those terms by Christianity.
So a sentence like America is founded on white supremacy really means America is founded on Christianity.
Simple as that!!
https://davidfiorazo.com/2020/06/statues-of-jesus-the-next-victims-of-cancel-culture/
https://www.foxnews.com/media/shaun-king-jesus-christ-statues-white-supremacy
UK and USA warped version of Christianity is White Supremacy which was their justification to treat blacks as inferior sub-humans.
White Superiority is the the false premise still shown by Trump and Brexit ministries today.
Movements against racist right wing are from left wing which is called activism in right wing propaganda and media.
Ayurvedic Homeopathic remedy is to reject all the racism and the racist people in the entire system of people.
Wonder what Black John is going to say when the African population explodes to 4 BILLION AFRICANS, dominant population on the earth…he won’t say a word since he will not even be here…lol…but our ancestors will be though….still.
and he can’t stop anything.
You are out of touch!!
Population shrinking in Europe, not shrinking in Africa nor Asia…all have 1 BILLION PLUS and growing rapidly..
“They want material wealth and careers more than a family and life itself.”
and all at the expense of the African descended….the racists and their lazy asses….they want putting in the fields.
check out the hateful retarded racists who have no clue that they can be put in the ground too…..lol
“WILMINGTON — “We are just gonna go out and start slaughtering them fu—– ni—–. I can’t wait. God, I can’t wait.
These are the words of a now-former Wilmington Police Department officer Kevin Piner.
He, along with two other officers have been fired from the department after dash-cam footage recorded two phone conversations — accidentally — and a supervisor conducting a routine audit of the videos found the disturbing content.
Michael ‘Kevin’ Piner, James ‘Brian’ Gilmore, and Jessie E. Moore II were all terminated from the force. The announcement came from the new Chief of Police Donny Williams — not even 24-hours into his first day as chief.”
WHY DO YOU THINK GEORGE WASHINGTON CARVER WAS GIVEN HIS NAME?
Was it because his parents did not like the original General George Washington?
Do you think they would join the Mindless Bandwagon to remove his statue and eventually Scrub him History?
THOSE WE ARE NAMED AFTER WE SHOULD REGARD AND BRING HONOUR TO THEIR NAMES… Certainly George Washington Carver has Brought honour to his name.
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/64/92/21/649221ec6780dc0cd7e9b2e2b6ce31e2.jpg
@ John June 25, 2020 6:39 AM
“So every time you see me use the term Quaker, or the term Anglican or the term Puritan you can replace those terms by Christian.
America is founded on Christianity as is Barbados, St. Kitts, Tortola, Antigua … probably a few other islands too.++++
Every time you see commenters refer to white supremacy or white privilege replace those terms by Christianity.
So a sentence like America is founded on white supremacy really means America is founded on Christianity.”
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Do your description of America and your brand of Christianity include the lands stretching from Mexico to Argentina where Roman Catholicism is supreme?
You ought to be more circumspect with your outlandishly misinformed claims to promote your English-based distorted view of history and your ‘Puritan’ brand of Christianity aka racial supremacy in the eyes of the white man version of God.
Amerigo Vespucci was an Italian explorer (like Cristóbal Colón); not an English pirate of privateer.
Miller…then they get angry when i call them by their natural name….house negro
the worse ones are so comfortable being slaves that they will fight and kill you to stay that way, their little slave comfort zone, that’s why you just go a certain distance then pull back.
“Olutoye Walrond
10 hrs
The mind-set of the proverbial “house negro” is something that historical and social commentators have written on. This species of the enslaved existed in a mental realm very different from that of the field slave.
From all reports, he felt privileged to be under the same roof as the “master” and took pride in serving his master. He ate the leftovers from his master’s table and wore his hand-me-downs.
The Malcolm X anecdote tells us if the master was sick the house negro would say “we are sick”. And of course, if he ever knew the field slaves were planning a revolt he would alert the master.
Today, 182 years after the abolition of slavery and 54 years after independence we still have a lot of house negroes in Barbados, as we have seen in the negative response of some to the Barbados’ participation in the world-wide Black Lives Matter campaign.
Tens of thousands of people of all shades around the world have taken to the streets in protest against the naked racism meted out to African Americans at the hands of the Police. Like all decent human beings should, they were horrified at the deliberate and inhuman killing of George Floyd.
The international community was standing up to tell the United States it is unacceptable to have an arm of your state that has free rein to kill black people. So does Barbados, with an overwhelming African-descended population, embrace this campaign readily? Not so fast.
Street Demonstrations organized by the Caribbean Movement for Peace were met with derision and negative criticism from house negro elements who must have thought their white master was being attacked.”
The founders of Black Lives Matter now admit they are trained marxists.
https://backtojerusalem.com/we-are-trained-marxists-says-blm-co-founder-patrisse-cullors/
BLM has nothing to with black lives.
As its leader states it will burn down the system if it does not get what it wants.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/black-lives-matter-leader-burn-down-system
There is absolutely nothing peaceful about BLM.
Meanwhile over in Chicago the murders continue to climb.
Now almost 300 for the year.
Not a peep from BLM
There is a reason countries across the globe, especially White dominant countries, are ushering in reforms to address the issue of race. There is a reason why companies are addressing the matter for similar reasons. There is a reason why Blacks and Whites are protesting across the globe. You are on the wrong side of the issue.
@Fascist Crier
WHY DO YOU THINK GEORGE WASHINGTON CARVER WAS GIVEN HIS NAME?
Was it because his parents did not like the original General George Washington?
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Was it because when his slave ancestors were taken from Africa that they were stripped of everything they owned including their names, their culture, their language?
Was it because their slave masters assigned names to them e.g. Slave Bob; slave George; slave Jim? Or N word Bob, N word George; or N word Jim? Was it because every last descendant of slaves in the so- called new world inherited the name of their “owner” or the plantation where he/she was born?
What were the terms of reference that George Washington Carver’s parents could use when they named their child?
Stop coming to these pages talking shite as if you know anything about black history.
Every organization has its particular focus. The reasons for this would be obvious to all who wish to see. If one tries to solve all problems at once one will solve no problems at all. Futhermore, state discrimination and violence against black people has a direct effect on black on black violence in inner cities in so many ways. So in essence, any organization that seeks to eliminate state discrimination and violence against black people also indirectly seeks to reduce black on black violence.
And if you googled with a less narrow focus you would find out about the many black activists and organizations that focus on solving the particular problem of black on black violence.
How creatures like you live with yourselves is baffling to me!
And by the way, don’t white people threaten to and actually burn down the place if they don’t get what they want????
Exactly when have white people been peaceful????????
Poor black people floundering around totally disoriented and Looney Tunes believes they knew enough to name themselves.
They didn’t even know who they were.
The JEWS never lost their names and this is why they have prospered.
He delights in being on the wrong side of the issue. Did you hear him berate the rednecks who went to their state legislature dressed in full combat gear and brandishing military weapons as they demanded their “liberty”?
Did he disagree with his idol who said they were good people that should be listened to by the legislators?
Was this peaceful protest or a threat of violence?
So in John’s sick mind black people are expected to peacefully beg white people for decades for the right to LIVE while white people are allowed to threaten and menace for the immediate right to get a tatoo!
NO MORE!
John’s idol does more to preserve statues of dead people than he does to protect real live people!
Demented! Depraved! AND INCREASINGLY DESPERATE!
Soon to be DEFEATED!
Here are some records at familysearch.org of Barbadians named George Washington from 1779 to the 1890’s.
The use of the name here was nowhere as popular as in the USA.
George Washington Carver was but one example in the US.
Horatio Nelson was much more popular in Barbados during this period and was very popular in the USA.
When you consider Horatio Nelson fought against the USA for his king that was clearly an accolade given him by citizens of the newly formed United States.
Name
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George Washington Taite
Principal
Barbados Burials, 1854-1885
burial:
27 October 1854
Barbados
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George Washington Yearwood
Principal
Barbados Burials, 1854-1885
burial:
8 June 1854
Barbados
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George Washington Rogers
Principal
Barbados Baptisms, 1739-1891
christening:
7 October 1887
Barbados
mother:
Mary Rogers
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George Washington Ford
Principal
Barbados Baptisms, 1739-1891
christening:
19 March 1887
Barbados
mother:
Margaret Ann Ford
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George Washington Hall
Principal
Barbados Baptisms, 1739-1891
christening:
28 October 1888
Barbados
mother:
Elizabeth Hall
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Albert Edward George Washington Butcher
Principal
Barbados Baptisms, 1739-1891
christening:
7 March 1880
Barbados
father:
Samuel William Butcher
mother:
Mary Ann Lewis Butcher
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George Washington Jordan
Principal
Barbados Baptisms, 1739-1891
birth:
8 August 1882
Barbados
mother:
Mary Magdaline Jordan
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George Washington Alleyne
Principal
Barbados Baptisms, 1739-1891
christening:
25 June 1891
Barbados
mother:
Louisa Alleyne
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George Washington Greenidge
Principal
Barbados Baptisms, 1739-1891
christening:
6 June 1880
Barbados
father:
Samuel Greenidge
mother:
Georgiana Young Greenidge
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George Washington Hinds
Principal
Barbados Baptisms, 1739-1891
christening:
27 July 1883
Barbados
mother:
Sarah Ellen Hinds
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George Washington Patten
Principal
Barbados Church Records, 1637-1887
birth:
1796
burial:
8 January 1842
St Michael, Barbados
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George Washington Yearwood
Principal
Barbados Church Records, 1637-1887
marriage:
4 May 1809
St Thomas, Barbados
spouse:
Mary Drake
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George Washington
Principal
Barbados Church Records, 1637-1887
baptism:
18 August 1833
St Michael, Barbados
father:
Mathew Hite
mother:
Ann Eleanor Hite
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George Washington
Principal
Barbados Church Records, 1637-1887
baptism:
4 February 1837
St John, Barbados
mother:
Rebekah
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George Washington Yearwood
Principal
Barbados Church Records, 1637-1887
baptism:
2 April 1789
St Peter, Barbados
father:
Jonas Yearwood
mother:
Christian
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George Washington Yearwood
Principal
Barbados Church Records, 1637-1887
baptism:
29 September 1779
St Peter, Barbados
father:
Jonas Yearwood
mother:
Christian Yearwood
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George Washington Brown
Principal
Barbados Baptisms, 1739-1891
christening:
24 December 1876
Saint Michael, Barbados
mother:
Sarah Margaret Brown
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George Washington Jordan
Principal
Barbados Baptisms, 1739-1891
christening:
30 September 1882
Saint Philip, Barbados
mother:
Mary Magdalene Jordan
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George Washington Shepheard
Groom
England, Cheshire, Marriage Bonds and Allegations, 1606-1900
birth:
1817
residence:
8 June 1838
Liverpool, Lancaster, Chester
marriage:
Saint Peter
marriage notice:
8 June 1838
spouse:
Ann Craig
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George Washington Watson
Principal
North Carolina, Department of Archives and History, Index to Vital Records, 1800-2000
birth:
16 September 1926
Windsor
parent:
Berkeley Benton, George W Watson
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George Washington Newkirk
Principal
North Carolina, Department of Archives and History, Index to Vital Records, 1800-2000
birth:
1954
Rose Hill
parent:
Walter Newkirk
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George Washington Miller
Principal
New York, Southern District, U.S District Court Naturalization Records, 1824-1946
birth:
6 November 1889
Barbados, B W I
naturalization:
1921
Westchester, New York, United States
spouse:
Augusta
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George Washington Miller
Principal
New York, County Naturalization Records, 1791-1980
birth:
6 November 1884
Barbados B W I
naturalization:
1921
New York, United States
spouse:
Augusta
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George Washington Hewitt
Principal
New York, Southern District, U.S District Court Naturalization Records, 1824-1946
birth:
10 August 1897
Bridgetown, Barbados B. W. I.
naturalization:
1929
New York, United States
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George Washington Miller
Principal
New York, Southern District, U.S District Court Naturalization Records, 1824-1946
birth:
6 November 1884
Bridgetown, Barbados B W I
naturalization:
1925
Westchester, New York, United States
spouse:
Augusta
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In slave registers in the British Colonial dependencies, George Washington as also used but not to the same extent as Horatio Nelson.
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George Washington
abt 1757 1817 Hanover, Jamaica Margaret Gilzean
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George Washington
abt 1759 1817 St Thomas in the East, Jamaica Clifton Hill
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George Wickham Washington Ledeatt
1817-1818 Antigua
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George Washington Yearwood
1829 Barbados
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George Washington Yearwood
1832 Barbados
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George Washington
abt 1794 1817 St Andrew, Jamaica William Hughes
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George Washington
abt 1801 1817 Nevis Samuel Lawrence
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George Washington
abt 1757 1817 Hanover, Jamaica Sarah Gray
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George Washington Yearwood
1823 Barbados
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George Washington Yearwood
1826 Barbados
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George Washington
abt 1759 1817 St Thomas in the East, Jamaica Clifton Hill
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George Washington
abt 1819 1834 St Christopher Gertrude Rawlins
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George Washington
abt 1761 1826 St Thomas in the East, Jamaica William Jame
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George Wickham Washington Ledeatt
1828 Antigua
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George Washington
1 Sep 1826 1827-1828 St Christopher Benjamin Greene
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George Washington
abt 1769 1832 St Mary, Jamaica James Johnston
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George Wickham Washington Ledeatt
1832 Antigua
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George Washington
abt 1770 1826 St Thomas in the East, Jamaica William Bryan
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George Washington
abt 1827 1834 Cayman Islands, Jamaica James Coe
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George Wickham Washington Ledeatt
1824 Antigua
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George Washington
abt 1814 1820 St George, Jamaica Henry Forbes
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George Washington
abt 1758 1813 Trinidad Gilles McBean
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George Washington
abt 1814 1820 St George, Jamaica Henry Forbes
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George Washington
abt 1770 1826 St Thomas in the East, Jamaica William Bryan
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George Washington
abt 1783 1834 Trinidad Robert Gray
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George Washington
1825 Nevis Samuel Laurence
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George Washington
abt 1761 1826 St Thomas in the East, Jamaica William Jame
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George Washington
abt 1819 1834 St Christopher Horatio Adlam
DavidJune 25, 2020 11:32 PM
There is a reason countries across the globe, especially White dominant countries, are ushering in reforms to address the issue of race. There is a reason why companies are addressing the matter for similar reasons. There is a reason why Blacks and Whites are protesting across the globe. You are on the wrong side of the issue.
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I agree.
The reason is that it is a measure of the success of the communist/marxist attempts to divide over the past several decades coming face to face with Donald Trump.
Trump is hated because he is likely to unravel all the work put in over the decades.
There is a mad scramble to destabilise and divide now he seems poised to win a second term because he will do it.
All efforts have failed to oust Trump and have only made him stronger.
The agenda can no longer be hidden in the scramble and the pretense is dropped.
So, surprise surprise, BLM exposes its agenda, nothing to do with any lives, just a scramble to get rid of Trump.
My guess is it will make him even stronger.
JohnJune 26, 2020 3:20 AM
DavidJune 25, 2020 11:32 PM
There is a reason countries across the globe, especially White dominant countries, are ushering in reforms to address the issue of race.
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Obvious question.
What about countries like Russia and China?
What about countries in Africa … China’s China?
… actually that’s two questions!!
When Trump held up the Bible the left cringed, like Van Helsing and Dracula.
Dracula has to get rid of Van Helsing just as the left needs to get rid of Trump.
We all know how it worked out in the movies.
But we are not watching a movie, this is the real thing.
It is the greatest show on earth!!
Sad thing is when he is n***** baiting he catching he own tar brushed self!
He is to be pitied, as is his idol who like he is empty inside. They are both like Pinocchio, wishing to be a real human but only his nose is capable of growing when he lies.
Uh-oh! Houston, we have a problem! Texas governor doing a serious back back! These Trump states are now feeling the Corona feeling!
Murdah! No seriously, I really mean murder. Killed by close encounters of the Trumpian kind.
@5y5dub ..You seem to be in a great mood
@Donna…. Why do people have to get sick or die for them to act responsibly. I doubt that they fully get it… One of my favorite comedians has the phrase “You cannot fix stupid”.
Politics & Voting in Houston, Texas
The Political Climate in Houston, TX is Somewhat liberal.
Harris County, TX is Leaning liberal. In Harris County, TX 54.0% of the people voted Democrat in the last presidential election, 41.6% voted Republican, and the remaining 4.4% voted Independent.
Harris county voted Democratic in the last three Presidential elections, after voting Republican in 2000 and 2004.
In the last Presidential election, Harris county remained strongly Democratic, 54.0% to 41.6%
Democrats control the cities in Texas!!
Sorry, you just can’t escape reality!!
And what you cannot control is the global movement.
#BLM
How many critical/serious cases and how many deaths testerday?
My guess is the rule of thumb applies it is more likely to die by gunshot wound in Chicago than COVID in Texas.
… especially if you are black!!
Hopefully before you die there will be an understanding – however improbable – that human beings are capable of agitating for different causes side by side.
@ John June 26, 2020 2:59 AM
“In slave registers in the British Colonial dependencies, George Washington as also used but not to the same extent as Horatio Nelson.”
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It’s really comical how you have the ready-made capacity to ‘recite’ the popular names of white racist heroes given to black male slaves but unable to find any with the name Jesus aka Yeshua or even Jesús which is rather common in Hispanic cultures.
Even some slave-trading ships were ‘christened’ with the name Jesus and baptized with wine.
Weren’t the black slaves deserving of such godly Christian names like ‘John’?
We know there were a lot of ‘Ole Black Joes’ but how many were called “Jesus” in recognition of the Christians’ hero, the white Lord & Saviour?
Soon EVERY STATE will lean Democratic!
But…
Houston is in Texas!
I guess you think we don’t know that it is the Republican governor who made the rules for reopening even though I just told you that it is he who is walking them back.
Ron di Santos, in trouble in Florida, Brian Kemp in trouble in Georgia.
Trump Country is now COVID COUNTRY!
PS. Meanwhile in shithole Barbados the last patient leaves isolation!
All it takes is testing, contact tracing, masks and social distancing.
ALL THE MEASURES TRUMP SCOFFS AT AND REJECTS.
MURDAH! SERIOUSLY, MURDER MOST FOUL!
Are the airports open yet? I want to buy John a ticket to Trump Country?
I’ll give you a gallon of bleach and a case of tonic water as a parting gift. You may take them as directed by Trump. Be sure to mix them with your orange Kool Aid to kill the taste!
MURDAH! SERIOUSLY, I REALLY MEAN MURDER!
A LEOPARD CANNOT CHANGE ITS SPOTS!
ITS A WELL ORGANISED PLOY!!
Why aren’t all Democratic Congress people, Mayors and Governors speaking out against the destruction ongoing?
Because they support the Communist Takeover. Pretty dumb of them, apparently they visualize – incorrectly – a personal gain from it. One can look at Romania’s example as to who benefits from socialism: Nobody. The country was bankrupt, while the socialist dictator was the only wealthy person there. When socialism was overturned, he and his wife got shot by the people.
https://www.facebook.com/thebrownyankee/photos/a.1781161945544858/2617719235222454/?type=3&theater
DavidJune 26, 2020 2:39 PM
And what you cannot control is the global movement.
#BLM
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Exactly how global is it?
Any protests/riots/looting in China, the most populous nation in the world?
What about Russia!!
… and I promise it wasn’t me that prevented them!!
DonnaJune 26, 2020 3:28 PM
Are the airports open yet? I want to buy John a ticket to Trump Country?
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I got plenty miles!!
… but I will let you know next time I am going and save my miles.
It will be the best money I ever spent. One way ticket, of course!
By the way, the intensive care beds are almost all full in most of Trump Country. Di Santos is trying to change what is recorded as intensive care.
And the worst thing is that doctors are worried that the lungs of those who were critically ill could be permanently scarred. The jury is still out on that.
So……it may be a slow death for some but still due to COVID.
PS. The increase in cases is mainly due to younger people socializing. The older folk are staying at home. So….. we have to wait for their young’uns to visit and bring it home for them.
There is, as you know, a few weeks time lag before the deaths occur. The jury is still out on that one too.
DonnaJune 26, 2020 6:43 PM
PS. The increase in cases is mainly due to younger people socializing.
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All the protesters/looters/rioters are young.
Has it dawned on you yet that these airheads are their own worst enemy?
Some adult needs to tell them masks don’t work!!
https://www.texasmonthly.com/news/photos-george-floyd-protests-texas/
Re your “PS. Meanwhile in shithole Barbados the last patient leaves isolation![…]
All it takes is testing, contact tracing, masks and social distancing.[…]ALL THE MEASURES TRUMP SCOFFS AT AND REJECTS.”
Well stated…
It is interesting, instructive and important that Bim, Reggae land Jamaica and our other regionsl brethren are doing so well and similarly current high temp places like Arizona, Florida and California are exploding with new cases…
I mention the climate angle because the adored US leader had banked his economy on the virus being sun-burnt away in the hot summer months … but he refused to help facilitate that by recommending the protocols our leaders are enforcing.
The American ethos of freedom of choice is a very worthy right … But so is the right to commonsense and smart apolitical crisis management.
While over in Democrat run Seattle, business owners have brought a class action suit against their city for failing to deliver what they pay their taxes for, protection!!
Somebody will get a $$ out of this.
Trump offer of help is refused so it is entirely at the city’s leadership!!
Trump is a genius that way!!
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/25/us/seattle-protest-zone-chop-lawsuit/index.html
It requires excellent interpretive skills to recognize that “protesters/looters/rioters are […] airheads [and] their own worst enemy” to congregate in the open spaces – some without masks- to support protests against inhumane treatment and negligent killings but completely sage to congregate indoors – most without masks – to support divisive guidance on pandemic safety and the breaking of rule of law, to name two.
One group is sage the other airheads.. . SMH!
That we can continue to drive insane political agendas on the realities of life and death during a war of a rapidly spreading virus is ridiculous…
That anyone can propose or defend the reasoning that greater testing is causing the increase in cov19 cases is laughable and idiotic.
Of course less testing simply means that the positives cov19 cases go undetected which then fosters a false sense of security or ‘fake news’ … it is simply unbelievable that anyone proposing such mad-science concoctions can be considered as a competent leader!
I AM NOT YOUR NEGRO. YOU DO NOT OWN MY THOUGHTS, OR DICTATE WHERE I PLACE MY VOTE.
I AM NOT A PART OF YOUR MONOLITH.
https://www.msn.com/en-xl/europe/top-stories/russia-reports-lowest-daily-rise-in-coronavirus-cases-since-late-april/ar-BB15ZX55?ocid=msedgdhp
No protests/riots/looting there I guess.
The problem from the beginning was gatherings of large crowds.
Chinese New Year celebrations in New York. Milan, Madrid, London etc.
No Chinese New Year celebrations in Hong Kong or Taiwan.
Pre Lenten celebrations in New Orleans Rio (that’s in Brazil), Netherlands, Germany etc.
Once there is a large gathering of crowds there will be virus spread.
That’s why 11 million watched the Trump Rally on TV.
You think Trump supporters stupid?
The simple fact is that COVID is not nearly as deadly as was first imagined.
In the flu category.
So people are prepared to risk gathering and virus spread be damned.
Just like flu!!
@John
We have heard this already, a repeat is not scholarly.
@John… Maybe .. and the man himself definitely appears stupid !
You argue that where there is a large gathering of crowds there will be virus spread” and suggests ‘… that’s why 11 million watched the Trump Rally on TV.’
Yet the man himself wanted to have an in person rally for a large gathering… which according to you only stupid people would do!
So relatively speaking if allegedly sane people support the stupid polices of a supposedly sane man then surely it makes one think that yes Trump and ‘Trump supporters [are] stupid”!
Pretzel logic.
Trump planned to host an indoor rally for 19000 people. Trump is a genius. He knows there is no reason to fear COVID.
Trump supporters declined the invitation to the rally. Trump supporters ain’t foolish. They are afraid of catching COVID.
These statements are conflicting. SOMEBODY HAS TO BE STUPID HERE!
Besides you, of course!
Tied yourself up in knots there!
It should now be obvious and seen for what it is. A Barbados scholarship is akin to passing the common entrance exam and going to a secondary school. John shows no further development after passing his A-Levels (first year at a university).
His reasoning is often fallacious
His post are often trite
His history is full of lies and wicked
A sick soul
DavidJune 26, 2020 10:00 PM
@John
We have heard this already, a repeat is not scholarly.
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So we agree that BLM is responsible for any COVID spikes.
Some seem unable to grasp this simple fact.
DonnaJune 26, 2020 11:47 PM
Trump supporters declined the invitation to the rally. Trump supporters ain’t foolish. They are afraid of catching COVID.
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Trump supporters ain’t foolish, agreed.
But BLM folks are, agreed.
I am through wasting time with you. A blind man on a trotting horse can see that you are tied up in knots right now.
Tied up like the jive turkey you are.
Not even fit for my oven though. Somebody has injected you with poison- the poison of hatred.
You are useless even as fertilizer.
And that is something on which most of us agree!
DPD,
Reports show that the COVID spike is due to young people hanging out at bars and restaurants where obviously they cannot wears masks while eating and drinking.
This is why the Republican governors are now closing bars again and reducing restaurant seating limits to 50 % from 75 %.
This action by said governors clearly puts paid to any specious argument that masks don’t work. It does the same for the argument that the 99.9 % mask-wearing BLM supporters are responsible for the spike.
PS. I have to take back my statement that John is useless. I forgot that I use his posts to school my son in logic. The lesson comprises of “Spot the Knot” questions. Mostly, he gets it. Just as he did with Grenville’s “Flush the Crap” exercises I used to set him.
Has the white business elite abandoned the president? Following her silence over Black Lives Matter, they have now come out with a statement calling for a national debate on racial division and inequality. Is this the beginning of a new national conversation? I have said on numerous occasions, for the sake of the future of traditional Barbados, black and white Barbados must reach a settlement.
Here is what they had to say:
he Barbados Private Sector Association issued a statement today in relation to key issues which have generated increased debate in recent weeks.
The statement said there is a need to “reconstruct and rebuild” nationally, a process which must “include discussion on racial division and economic enfranchisement”.
Please see the full statement below.
“The members of the Barbados Private Sector Association (BPSA) continue to be engaged together with other Social Partners in the process of rebuilding our economy and society following the Covid-19 pandemic’s significant impact. At the same time, the BPSA too is cognizant of the present global, social and economic realities which could impact our small developing nation’s ability to achieve “the future we want”, for all citizens and residents and the generations to come.
“Given the need and opportunity for us to ‘reconstruct and rebuild’ nationally, occurring at this time of global conversation on racial tensions and inequities, attention must also include a focus on imbalances that currently exist in our country. It is therefore timely, and necessary, to honestly look at the society we live in with a view to progressing Barbados to become a model of inclusiveness, diversity and equality of access for all. Undoubtedly, this process must necessarily include discussion on racial division and economic enfranchisement in Barbados.
“BPSA recognises the benefit of consultation and dialogue and regards these as being critical if any meaningful positive national change is to be achieved. More importantly, such consultation and dialogue must be of a calibre to develop an implementable plan to address, with success, the issues including any inequalities and inequities. It is anticipated that such a plan would be underpinned with a commitment from all stakeholders to be part of the change process.
“We also signal BPSA’s support for the removal to a more suitable environment the statue of Lord Nelson which was erected on March 22, 1813 to commemorate the anniversary of the British Royal Navy’s victory in the Battle of Trafalgar in 1805. Indeed, the renaming of Trafalgar Square to Heroes Square renders the current positioning of Lord Nelson, overlooking the seat of our National Heroes, incongruous.
“BPSA stands ready not only to be engaged in the dialogue but also for each of us to introspect and to answer all well formulated, collective calls to action drafted with the input of every voice of our nation.
“We therefore call for discussion and engagement on these matters of national concern with a view to agreeing specific and tangible actions, as collectively, we journey to achieve ‘One Barbados’.” (Quote)
@ John June 27, 2020 6:25 AM
What are you (and the other ‘house-negro’ Johnny) going to say now that one of your mulatto ‘kith and kin’ (the leading spokesman for the remnants of the Bajan white commercial cabal Eddie Clarke) is supporting the removal of your idol Nelson?
Are you and the other black Johnny still on the cultural plantation going to jump on the bandwagon after the approval has been granted for the van driver called MAM to remove it to its culturally rightful place to act as a curiosity piece of ‘English’ naval history in the local museum?
As part of the coming ‘Truth & Reconciliation’ bridge building process you ought to confess your sins for the many racialist distortions of Bajan history.
How about supporting the ‘erection’ of an obelisk called the “Light of Freedom” powered by the rays of the Sun in memory of those who actually fought for the abolition of chattel slavery in Barbados (including the Quakers)?
We are quite confident there will be many benefactors in the “mudda-cuntry” (like Benedict Cumberbatch of “12 Years a Slave” fame) who would be ever so keen to jump onboard that financing boat as part of their own psyche and part of their moral healing process for the sins committed by their very rich ancestors.
Isn’t the Bajan model of chattel slavery one of the greatest blots of disgrace on the faces of the so-called Christian’ white people which would remain through the ages similar to the mark your Yahweh inflicted upon poor Cain?