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  • How come she didn’t extend the curfew from 6 am to 6pm?

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  • John
    April 1, 2020 3:09 PM

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/georgia-mayor-cancels-social-distancing-order-amid-coronavirus-pandemic/ar-BB121Vo7?ocid=spartandhp
    https://www.thehawkeye.com/news/20200331/iowa-gov-reynolds-i-cant-lock-state-down-over-coronavirus-concerns

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    I suspect churches in America will be open and full for Easter.

    Maybe not in every state but some will be open.

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  • @ David

    I said so in the post of my strolls today From last week I was saying something had to be done about the supermarkets.

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  • @John

    You are peaking on the boring index now.

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  • The situation is now totally out of control or just the way we always wanted it to be. It’s a brilliant move, our Prime Minister now sending others to do the dirty work.

    Not only do we need a total lockdown, but we also need martial law. That includes suspending the ordinary courts and installing military tribunals.

    The government must finally crack down on the DLP grandees who signed the visa agreement with the Chinese communists in 2014. It is obvious that the plague is coming from China. Furthermore, we now need a cleansing of the state apparatus of all DLP members as potential traitors.

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  • @Dr. Lucas

    A few ignorant Bajans operating under the view God is a Bajan and it cannot happen here. Truth be told we have witnessed similar behavipur across the Caribbean.

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  • @Tron

    This is serious, try to pause your shit.

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  • Vincent Codrington

    @ John A

    What useful purpose would your suggested extension serve? That is a total lock down. It can be increased according to the response of the populace.
    The number of identified cases has increased to 45. It appears that the new cases are persons who did not travel within the last two months. Obviously this may be the tip of the iceberg.It may be indicative of a much larger number of unidentified cases.

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  • I AM VERY SKEPTICAL THEY HAVE BEEN NO DEATHS.

    SOMETHING FISHY ABOUT THIS BARBADOSTODAY STORY:

    Close the caskets for now

    Acting Chief Medical Officer Dr. Anton Best is recommending funeral homes end open casket services, out of an abundance of caution, as the COVID-19 cases in Barbados rise to 33 today.

    Speaking on a radio call-in programme on Sunday, Dr. Best said there was much that the medical community knew about the new coronavirus (COVID-19) but there was “much that we do not know”.

    He was responding to a question from a funeral home operator about the handling of people who have died from the disease.

    According to the senior medical officer who is among the team leading the fight against the illness in Barbados, there was still some uncertainty about transmission of COVID-19 from the bodies of persons who died from the illness.

    As such, Dr. Best cautioned funeral home operators that after families had viewed their loved ones, the caskets should be closed.

    Moreover, he urged them to heighten the use of protective wear when handling these bodies. He stressed that closed casket funerals are his personal recommendation, noting that the World Health Organisation (WHO) had not issued such an urging as yet.

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2020/03/30/close-the-caskets-for-now/

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  • @ David April 1, 2020 7:37 PM

    The problem as I stated else where on the Blog, is the number of persons the infected person interacted with. For example person X is an asymptomatic carrier. X lands in Barbados and mingle with family. That is no problem. Family can easily be screened. X goes to the supermarket and mingles with y + z persons. Y equal known persons. Z the unknown. It is the latter that is causing the problem. A lock down and rigorous restriction of movement are called for is testing of all Barbadians cannot be done for financial reasons. In the former case each Z results in a hot spots which can be isolated and contained.

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  • @ David April 1, 2020 7:38 PM

    I see the obvious. All the hoaxes on the social media. For many days. Intensifying.

    https://www.loopnewsbarbados.com/content/april-fools-jokes-pranks-around-covid-19-are-malicious-punishable

    Someone or some party is trying to destabilize the government. What people are profiting from this? Not the government that’s doing everything possible.

    We have to act. Now.

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  • Vincent Codrington

    The good news is that no death has been recorded so far. The symptoms are mild and are being managed successfully up to this point. The strategy is still containment and the reducing the risks of spreading the disease. We still got this.

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  • no deaths yet but an elderly person is in QEH not doing well at all or so i have been made to understand. hope the person recovers

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  • Dishonest Bajans

    The good news is that no death has been recorded so far.

    xxxxxxxx

    Have been reported.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @Vincent, if you don’t win the NIFCA Award for understatement with Obviously this may be the tip of the iceberg.It may be indicative of a much larger number of unidentified cases then something real wrong !

    Yah think!

    When the HMS Trident Barbados passes over that iceberg it will be ripped asunder one time… I can only pray there are more than enough life boats set in place by the ship captains who are incompetently running full steam towards the iceberg!

    This is madness!

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  • David why yuh sounding suh frustrated wuh them only 46
    That not even the tip of the iceberg
    Cant wait to see wuh yuh do when it hit 1000
    But God is a bajan how come yuh dont know that
    Sh.it man.sh..it

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  • @ robert lucas April 1, 2020 7:36 PM

    You will now have to put an immediate stop to your overly risky perambulations or find yourself receiving free accommodation and victuals at HM’s expense.

    Even though you are over three score and ten it might not be too late to lose your boyhood cherry while bending down to pick up a bar of soap to avoid a young Covid standing right behind you.

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  • @VC
    I suspect that those who are ‘sheltering’ with you are wondering how you remain so calm/cool/dispassionate.
    I can hear them saying “i am glad level-headed VC is here but he is no fun”
    Stay safe.

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  • In theory, 9 months from now the population should start increasing.

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  • Seen numbers in countries rise from one to thousand in space of a week
    Recently heard of a family member who unknowingly infected the entire family including an 80 year old woman
    The one thing that these infected countries have in coming are open borders
    Today Dr. Fauci warned that there is a possibility countries can be hit hard with Corona next flu season
    Now all the measures in the world cannot stop the spread no matter how many curfews are put in place
    The right methods if done comprehensively and simultaneously would have stop the spread and the loss of much needed revenue from the public purse

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  • Seen numbers in countries rise from one to thousand in space of a week
    Recently heard of a family member who unknowingly infected the entire family including an 80 year old woman
    The one thing that these infected countries have in coming are open borders
    Today Dr. Fauci warned that there is a possibility countries can be hit hard with Corona next flu season
    Now all the measures in the world cannot stop the spread no matter how many curfews are put in place
    The right methods if done comprehensively and simultaneously would have stop the spread and the loss of much needed revenue from the public purse

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  • @ Mariposa April 1, 2020 8:07 PM

    Stop gloating. This no time for recriminations, What has happened has happened. The action to leave borders open ,is a result of failure to diversify.. When this thing is over some heads should roll.

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  • @ Vincent

    If you going to cut back the hours of business then also increase the curfew period. Why leave so much time between the close of business and start of the curfew? The problem is that many think the curfew is a joke, so extend the curfew time and let the police pick up and fine some offenders. Send a serious message.

    You mean to tell me that in all of Bim the best the police could do is find 1 Jamaican woman breaking the curfew in 11 parishes? Until we hold and clap a few $50,000 fines on a handful of these clowns no one will take it serious. Extend the curfew and make use of the legislation and stop with the kit glove approach.

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  • have @ Miller April 1, 2020 8:09 PM

    I am going to find it very difficult staying put. I am always active and moving around, The only time there was danger was entering the supermarkets or the liquor shops. I discounted the danger due to the fact that people who shopped at the supermarket mentioned were less likely to visited over seas. Most of them are too poor .Same with the fellows with the drink. I figured that the highbrow Barbadians who shopped at the Malls were more likely to be problematic. Time will tell. We all have to go some time.

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  • David
    April 1, 2020 7:36 PM

    @John
    You are peaking on the boring index now.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I’ve shown that relying on what has happened in FLORIDA is misleading on its own.

    There are other states that have operated differently, IOWA and GEORGIA.

    There is also a whole country, SWEDEN that has acted differently.

    The only way FLORIDA is relevant to Barbados is if a lot of students here attended Spring Break there and have returned.

    In which case deal with those separately.

    The video below was posted on 18th March.

    Fourteen days later is NOW!!!

    In that respect, FLORIDA is relevant to us especially if there are a lot of Z’s … see rl’s post.

    But you would expect the GOB to treat us as adults and tell us the facts.

    Trump doesn’t sugar coat anything at his press briefings.

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  • @Dr. Lucas

    You should still be able to go on walks, just say you are going to the supermarket or hospital :-). You do not want to disappoint your fans by halting your perambulations.

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  • Dishonest Bajans

    @Dr. Lucas

    You should still be able to go on walks, just say you are going to the supermarket or hospital :-). You do not want to disappoint your fans by halting your perambulations.

    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    You’re asking this man to be dishonest to satisfy your agenda?

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  • @Baje April 1, 2020 7:51 PM “Close the caskets for now. Acting Chief Medical Officer Dr. Anton Best is recommending funeral homes end open casket services, out of an abundance of caution.”

    Excellent idea. I don’t understand this obsession with staaring at dead bodies, feeling them up and kissing them..

    My old mother used to say that she didn’t want anybody peeping into her face when she was dead. That if you loved her that you should visit when she was alive and able to enjoy your company. I’ve told my children the same. No looking. No photos.

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  • America has had 3 waves of infection.

    Chinese New Year – New York, California

    Pre Lenten Celebrations – New Orleans

    Spring Break – All over.

    I can understand the fear Spring Break engenders and that we have to be vigilant for the next two weeks.

    However, we don’t have to be treated like children to avoid treating a few children like adults.

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  • In New York in the first wave, the numbers involved in the celebrations were way above anything that might have occurred during third wave, Spring Break.

    Even if the third wave, Spring Break causes an increase in infections, it won’t be the same as having 500K plus bodies in close proximity on the streets of New York.

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  • The curfew should have been extended from 6:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. You have a lot of deviant Barbadians out there.

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  • Luxtrev!!1April 1, 2020 8:58 PM

    The curfew should have been extended from 6:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. You have a lot of deviant Barbadians out there.

    So what difference the virus has no defining day or night time line
    The curfew is a joke and furthermore more people mingle at day than night especially the elderly who has to do their daytime chores

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  • robert lucasApril 1, 2020 8:22 PM

    @ Mariposa April 1, 2020 8:07 PM

    Stop gloating. This no time for recriminations, What has happened has happened. The action to leave borders open ,is a result of failure to diversify.. When this thing is over some heads should roll.

    Cvvvvvcvcvvvvvvvv
    Me gloating watching this virus wreck havoc in the big international countries not a joke
    However one cant help but think of how in the past 10 years present govt gloat about the trials of barbados openly and without shame and now a worsen fate has got hold of them

    Me not gloating but to keenly observed

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  • “I AM VERY SKEPTICAL THEY HAVE BEEN NO DEATHS..”

    Baje…the disease follows a pattern, they cannot hide the deaths, there are a couple processes first before first death….and then….and then..

    don’t mind all the long talk, all of this is on them, we said repeatedly that the place should have been closed weeks ago..when the BU fools wanted to fight…..any deaths can be attributed to this government and their…”we have to leave the ports open for tourism, go staycation at the hotels, go bathe in the sea”…stueppps..

    don’t mind all the shite talk, they are looking for someone else to blame for the upcoming unfortunate deaths …THAT THEY CAUSED..

    am not letting not one of them suck my energy, let them explain why they allowed the island to be infected….it took weeks and weeks for Germany to have a high infection rate……these are well on their way, let them explain that too…

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  • fortyacresandamule

    @john. Why are trying to hijack this topic now bro ? You did a decent job on a previous one. I have never seen you so hyped up before. Let it go bro, you are not convincing most here with your volatile postings, which ran the gamut from indenial to crazy confirmation bias stories.

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    MariposaApril 1, 2020 9:09 PM
    “… especially the elderly who has to do their daytime chores…”
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    Do the elderly need to do their daytime chores in groups out on the streets?? Why can they not stay at home? I’m well past 3 score years, but my chores never seem to be big social occasions; what am I missing?

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  • The military must finally close the gated communities and guard the inhabitants there and provide them with food. We must hermetically seal off the top-performers of society, because we will need them after the plague.

    We also need much larger camps here, for at least 50,000 people. Whoever has a cold or coughs slightly, must stay there for a month in special care. We must show the people that the government cares.

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  • What they should be educating the people about if they were following how this disease functions….is that it’s ONLY GOAL…is to survive…that means adapting to any environment and any changes…it is determined TO SURVIVE…no matter how many hosts…PEOPLE… it has to jump or how many it has to kill…maybe people will understand that better…

    If the leaders were paying attention and not flitting around like dummies bringing destruction to the people…they would have observed that as others have….that is what happens when all ya have on your mind is goddamn paper…

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  • Donks, Gripe and Josh

    Shut the borders except for critical goods (and services) was the call for weeks by several concerned voices regretfully those calls went unheeded for whatever reason. At this time its nearly too late.

    Asking people to self quarantine maybe humane certainly not wise .

    Authorities said 199 persons were asked to self quarantine . Who ensured the volunteerism?

    Newspaper interviews with self quarantined travelers were of little comfort to discerning readers.

    The updated numbers are very scary thankfully all are alive.

    An underreported quote from CMO that people who spent mandatory 2 weeks in quarantine when re-tested still had symptoms was ominous to say the least.

    Reading between the lines no quarantined persons have been released weeks since restrictions started. There hasn’t been risk reduction even by the count of one.

    How much can hastily set up infrastructure and gutsy human resources in the trenches at the front battling germ warfare stand? Its beginning to sound like a “never so few…..” moment in time.

    We are obliged to stand together to reverse this dangerous pandemic. Government must lead, the entire country for survival must be on the same page.

    The order for every arrival to enter mandatory not voluntary quarantine is a step in right direction. Closing borders would be the right thing to do also.

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  • @mariposa

    You trying to tell me they have more old people on the streets after dark than younger ones?

    You ever drove around after dark and seen what age liming on the street corners and gas stations etc? Old folks move early and like to be home before dark. Few of them even drive at night.

    Also it’s not about age it’s about obeying the law of the curfew. The state has set a time for ALL to be off the road full stop! The law does not differentiate perpetrators by age, sex or race.

    If businesses are going to close at 2 pm or 3 pm, why would one have a curfew starting as late as 8pm? 6 am to 6 pm should have been included in the new measures today. We also have to enforce the law or it will be no different to how we deal with the ZRs or motorcycle riders, who break every traffic law on the books every Sunday.

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  • 382 tests 45 positive.

    That is a rate of infection of 11.5%

    To me a layman that is high. Hope Bajans are persuaded to follow the directives.

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  • I told you a month ago that we have to detain Charles Jong. Even Mariposa laughed about it. Yes, Mariposa. Now we’re in trouble.

    I admit that I underestimated the Wuhan flu a bit. I therefore propose the following measures to compensate for this:

    Closing the external borders is not enough anymore. I´m sorry. We need to seal off every Parish and the gated communities. We also need a 24-hour curfew, seven days a week, for three months. People are only allowed to go to the supermarket one last time before this lockdown and then have to stay at home for three months. The military must monitor the curfew and punish all lawbreakers immediately. The airport will be closed for one year. No one will be allowed to enter.

    We must also think about the economic consequences. The fifth IMF programme from next summer will, of course, be very tough. I propose that the population must hand over all their gold jewellery, cash and credit cards to the central bank. All citizens will also have to transfer to the central bank their foreign currency stocks in domestic and foreign accounts. Anyone who refuses to do so will be placed in coercive detention. Informers receive a reward of USD 1000 for every million USD discovered.

    In order to prevent citizens from refusing to comply with these sanctions, citizens will no longer be allowed to leave the island for an indefinite period of time. Exceptions are made for a bail of 1 million USD.

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  • “Authorities said 199 persons were asked to self quarantine . Who ensured the volunteerism?”

    as i said before, people were given a form at the airport…they were supposed to check on/monitor these people DAILY…i had even made an error and said every 5 days…but they never turned up to monitor those people who flew in from infected countries….this is also on them….now they are trying to spin it…they did not take it seriously so neither did the population……now they themselves are panicking ..like John…

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  • THIS SHOULD HELP WITH CORONAVIRUS BLUES.

    WHOEVER SAID BLACK WAS NOT BEAUTIFUL.

    YUMMY

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  • “I propose that the population must hand over all their gold jewellery, cash and credit cards to the central bank. All citizens will also have to transfer to the central bank their foreign currency stocks in domestic and foreign accounts. Anyone who refuses to do so will be placed in coercive detention. Informers receive a reward of USD 1000 for every million USD discovered.”

    of course all the known thieves will be out in droves…no joke…suited and booted to rob the population, but all of you are on ya way to prison so enjoy ya last free days……ticktock..

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  • I was thinking today about these new measures and for many of us that was life in the 60s daily. Here goes.

    Black and white tv with Zorro and Dark Shadows starting at 5pm on channel 8.

    We had one TV channel only.

    Black rotary phones with 5 digits were the only phones we had.

    Business hours were 8 to 4 and half day on Saturdays with no Sunday shopping.

    There was no WhatsApp, texting, internet or personal computers.

    No Sheraton Mall, Dome Mall or any Mall.

    No Chefette or Kentucky. Fast food was a sandwich made in a hurry.

    Yet we survived and were happy with what we had. To many of us what was put forward today was just a trip down memory lane. To you younger ones, pick up the phone and call a friend instead of whatsapping them. Go old school you might actually enjoy it!

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  • peterlawrencethompsonApril 1, 2020 9:25 PM

    MariposaApril 1, 2020 9:09 PM
    “… especially the elderly who has to do their daytime chores…”
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    Do the elderly need to do their daytime chores in groups out on the streets?? Why can they not stay at home? I’m well past 3 score years, but my chores never seem to be big social occasions; what am I missing

    Xxccccccccccccccccc

    Glad to know u are well organised which includes good transportation orderly and.efficient times at doctors appointments which includes collecting medicine from reliable pharmacies and all other daily chores in impeccable order
    Glad to hear glad to know
    But let me ask u a question do u live in barbados
    If the question is yes
    Wuh part of barbados is that
    If the answer is no then u get my drift

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  • fortyacresandamule

    Now that capitalism has grind to a halt, it is times like these that my old school belief of zero debt and living off the land comes in handy. I can ride this stuff out for the long-run. How many can say the same?

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  • @Forty, quite so. If the US government does not act quickly to inject substantial assistance into the medical field, this will be a total disaster for the west.

    With the US in trouble, the Caribbean is in trouble. Canada too.

    Most do not realise that this can bring capitalism crashing down.

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  • @Crusoe and forty acres

    Interesting comments from you two.

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @Mariposa
    “But let me ask u a question do u live in barbados…”
    +++++++++++++++++++
    Yes, I live in St Philip in a little board house on a marl road out past six roads.

    I have been in self imposed isolation with my wife since March 14 because of foreign travel. Our 14 day isolation ended just in time for the curfew to start, so by the middle of April we will have been enjoying each other’s company for a full month… it’s like another honeymoon.

    Emerald City Supermarket delivers all our groceries which I order by email… prescriptions and alcohol as well. they charge $25 for delivery (it used to be $10 before the COVID crisis), but on the other hand I’m saving over $100 in gasoline every week that I don’t have to drive back and forth to the office and to meetings and to clients. When it was our anniversary we got Hopscotch to bring us a fancy meal from the restaurant we probably would have gone to in normal times. The cost of delivery was about the same as we would have left as a tip if we were sitting in the restaurant.

    We work from home and hope that FLOW keeps our broadband working. All in all I have absolutely nothing in the world to complain about.

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @Crusoe & @fortyacresandamule
    This is indeed a crisis of capitalism… and the flip side of crisis is opportunity. I am looking for opportunity to help build a better society post crisis: one that radically reduces social disparities and cares for disadvantaged people much more effectively. I don’t really care what it ends up being called: ecosocialism, capitalism v2, humanism, bajanism, … as long as we grow beyond the dysfunctional greed and corruption that has warped our planet so badly in recent decades.

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  • @Peter

    How do you visualize a new system will take root?

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  • Hants
    April 1, 2020 10:09 PM

    382 tests 45 positive.
    That is a rate of infection of 11.5%
    To me a layman that is high. Hope Bajans are persuaded to follow the directives.

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    How was the 382 sample taken?

    It has to have been a biased sample.

    It was not a random sampling of the population.

    The objective is to FIND the virus in contacts of a known case, not waste any tests on people unlikely to have it.

    The 382 persons were chosen because the experts expected them to have the virus.

    The authorities were only right in 45 cases out of the 382 they expected to find.

    If it was that they wanted to find negatives, then they were right in 337 out of the 382 tests administered.

    Now, that is high.

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  • NorthernObserver

    The GoB has ALREADY been quarantining people at Paragon. Only challenge, is they cannot place them all in the same big room, they need to separate them. You are simply breeding potential carriers if you don’t do that. My surprise, is that officials in the later stage adopters of isolation/lockdown, seem surprised that person to person spread is occurring. STAY HOME. Treat every person, including yourself, as an asymptomatic carrier. Don’t give it, don’t get it, starve it.

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  • peterlawrencethompson
    April 1, 2020 11:44 PM

    @Crusoe & @fortyacresandamule
    This is indeed a crisis of capitalism…

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Mayor de Blasio, a Democrat and Governor Cuomo, a Democrat and Congress woman Pelosi, a Democrat encouraged large gatherings with no social distancing when they knew a virus that was killing Chinese was on the loose.

    Their motivation was to get money at any cost.

    For Democrat read socialist/communist.

    Donald Trump, a Capitalist, sought to curtail these gatherings by closing the border.

    Wealth and the future were his considerations as a capitalist.

    The correct way to interpret this is to say this is just one more instance of socialists/communists trying to make a fast dollar regardless of the expense.

    Profit was not the motive, money at all cost was.

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  • I tried THREE TIMES to tell Hants that the sample is taken from those suspected of having the virus and when testing positive, those who have had contact with them. I TOLD HIM that we ought to count ourselves lucky when some contacts test negative. Subsequently HE FOUND AND POSTED the article that explained that the authorities were concentrating on contact tracing.

    I hope that he is satisfied now that you have told him.

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @David
    It will not “take root.” We will need to build it with painstaking effort bit by bit in the teeth of determined opposition from the powers that be. The only thing that makes it possible is the collapse of the old order. We have been telling anyone who would listen that tourism was a dying industry… well now it is dying exponentially faster than we thought it would. This means that necessity will compel others to join us in the search for new economic cornerstones.

    I am hoping that the financiers behind stupid proposals like Maloney’s Bay St. Hyatt will take their greed elsewhere now that the calculus of tourism is utterly changed. Maloney will continue to push the project because he will take his extortionate profits from selling concrete to himself and creating this white elephant, but Hyatt will need to redo all of their spreadsheets to see if it makes any sense for them. I can only hope that the government does not extend concessions to tempt Hyatt to stay in the game… that is something we’ll need to watch out for and make politically uncomfortable for them to accomplish.

    Everybody finally understands the need to build a new agriculture industry for our own food security, so now we might finally take that challenge seriously.

    I hope it brings recognition of the need to completely rebuild our dysfunctional educational system… and I’m not talking of the 11+, I’m referring to needing comprehensive early childhood education, a primary system where the best schools are public not private, and a secondary system that finally rids itself of the crippling colonial heritage baked into institutions like Harrison College and Queens College.

    It’s a tall order, but the longest journey begins with simple footsteps.

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  • NorthernObserver
    April 2, 2020 12:00 AM

    The GoB has ALREADY been quarantining people at Paragon. Only challenge, is they cannot place them all in the same big room, they need to separate them. You are simply breeding potential carriers if you don’t do that. My surprise, is that officials in the later stage adopters of isolation/lockdown, seem surprised that person to person spread is occurring. STAY HOME. Treat every person, including yourself, as an asymptomatic carrier. Don’t give it, don’t get it, starve it.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    NO ….. YES!!

    In addition, limit the persons the GOB isolates and has to make provision for to persons who will be a threat in households where the at risk population, the old/unhealthy, are present.

    … and get a handle on the numbers and realise that worldwide deaths due COVID-19 are small compared with other causes of death.

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  • To put it simply, Hants, you cannot take that 11 % and extrapolate it out to the general population or say that approximately 1 in 10 of us are carrying the virus.

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @John
    Trump, de Blasio, Cuomo, Pelosi, Sanders, Biden… all simply different flavors of capitalist. We’re leaving ALL of them behind 😉

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  • Donna
    April 2, 2020 12:13 AM

    I tried THREE TIMES to tell Hants that the sample is taken from those suspected of having the virus and when testing positive, those who have had contact with them. I TOLD HIM that we ought to count ourselves lucky when some contacts test negative. Subsequently HE FOUND AND POSTED the article that explained that the authorities were concentrating on contact tracing.
    I hope that he is satisfied now that you have told him.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    There you go!!

    “If you can keep your head when all around you are losing theirs …”

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  • @Peter Lawerence april 1 2020 11.37 pm

    Good for u
    However i know of many elderly barely making ends meet and who cannot afford your kind of extra luxuries
    Some still struggle to make ends meet
    Some still have to go on doctors appointments in timely fashion
    Some still have to catch a bus or ZR as means of transportation
    Some still have to go on long lines to buy food
    And most importantly have to wait on a monthly pension check around which they make a workable plan for themselves
    So u see Peter not everyone who lives in barbados can afford an extra 25 dollars for home delivery and in the event for doctors visit they cant afford doctor calls but have no other choice but to see a doctor
    It must be hard being an elderly living in barbados on a monthly check and now forced to adjust and adapt new measures that have interrupted their flow of life

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  • @Peter

    The reference to taking root was how would a new system initiate. Does the groundswell come from the proletariat? We know it will not be championed by the bourgeoisie.

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  • Crusoe
    April 1, 2020 10:58 PM

    @Forty, quite so. If the US government does not act quickly to inject substantial assistance into the medical field, this will be a total disaster for the west.
    With the US in trouble, the Caribbean is in trouble. Canada too.
    Most do not realise that this can bring capitalism crashing down.

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    Agree, the objective of socialists/communists is to do just that, at any cost.

    Capitalism creates wealth long term.

    Profits are generated if costs don’t exceed revenues.

    Socialists/communists don’t care about costs, just revenues.

    So when Pelosi flew into San Francisco on her broom, she was trying to stop the capitalist, Trump, from interfering with revenues and had no concern as to the human costs of her actions.

    Here she is after she got off her broom and took a walkabout.

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  • David
    April 2, 2020 12:32 AM

    @Peter
    The reference to taking root was how would a new system initiate. Does the groundswell come from the proletariat? We know it will not be championed by the bourgeoisie.

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    … of which you, Peter, are an admitted member!!!!!

    Talk about tongue in cheek!!

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @Mariposa
    “It must be hard being an elderly living in barbados on a monthly check…”
    +++++++++++++++
    You are completely right, which is why we need to build a new society and economy which radically reduces social disparities and cares for disadvantaged people much more effectively.

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @David & @John
    “We know it will not be championed by the bourgeoisie.”
    ++++++++++++
    You are correct of course… except for those of us who are traitors to our class 😉
    I think that the split may well be more demographic than class based, with millenials and everyone younger finally getting fed up with the way we Baby boomers have screwed up the world and their lives… except for those of us who are traitors to their generation 😉

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  • Ok Peter, then the hunt is on for the call to action.

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  • John A
    April 1, 2020 10:06 PM

    If businesses are going to close at 2 pm or 3 pm, why would one have a curfew starting as late as 8pm? 6 am to 6 pm should have been included in the new measures today.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Partying starts after 8pm.

    The time would suggest that the curfew is directed at the youth.

    Years ago at HC I remember it was claimed that when Tank was prevailed upon to let the 6 formers start their dance in the hall at 10 pm as 8pm was too early, he responded by saying “Ah please, at this time of the year it gets late early”!!

    They would have preferred midnight but he had the power so 8pm it was!!

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  • fortyacresandamule

    @Cruesoe. For sure. Talk about medical support. I read where the US federal government US$2.1 trillion fiscal intervention has made provision of US$ 117 billion for hospitals and veterans care. Another $27 billion is for drugs and vaccines development.

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  • @ Donna,

    You and John are probably right.

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  • peterlawrencethompson
    April 2, 2020 12:41 AM

    @David & @John
    “We know it will not be championed by the bourgeoisie.”
    ++++++++++++
    You are correct of course… except for those of us who are traitors to our class 😉
    I think that the split may well be more demographic than class based, with millenials and everyone younger finally getting fed up with the way we Baby boomers have screwed up the world and their lives… except for those of us who are traitors to their generation 😉

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The 60’s and the move towards socialism/communism by many!!

    Cool at the time but long term devastating.

    Guess the millennials have decided to exterminate the baby boomers with the virus.

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  • The closure of Cin-Cin was a genius move. The owners obviously anticipated the Chinese bioattack.

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  • This one fuh Peter and he wife.

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  • NorthernObserver

    @plt
    prophetic words….”except for those of us who are traitors to their generation 😉”. Once we remember EVERY generation has their traitors? Even the Millennials and X’ers. If there is a demographic push, do you think they will ‘share control’ or keep it within their ranks? Leads me to suspect it has to be broader or they will be trubble.

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  • And because I can’t help being naughty –

    Here’s hoping you are old but not cold!

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  • fortyacresandamule

    @David. I am not a fan of the bright lights. I live a very simple life. For most people having all the fancy material stuff and the comfort it brings is seen as progress and prosperity. I beg to differ. They are so spoiled and pampered, psychologically they are not condition for times like these.

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  • And dis fuh de miserable ones!

    Sixty-four, seventy-four or eighty four.

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  • fortyacresandamule
    April 1, 2020 9:22 PM

    @john. Why are trying to hijack this topic now bro ? You did a decent job on a previous one. I have never seen you so hyped up before. Let it go bro, you are not convincing most here with your volatile postings, which ran the gamut from indenial to crazy confirmation bias stories.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Getting visions man!!

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  • Northern 1.27

    Where did @PLT talk about traitors to his generation? I read it as traitors to his class….that has a totally different sociological, political and historical meaning.
    Unless I am wrong, we must get our quotes right. BU has a reputation for re-interpreting what people say. Most of our lawyer/politicians are class traitors, not generation traitors.

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  • Has any one seen the latest comments from the the Chairman of the BTMI Sunil Chatrani?

    He believes that the country should not become distracted by Covid-19 and should focus on ways to strengthen our tourist industry?

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2020/04/02/agency-mulls-tourism-product-relaunch/

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  • Who scripted Santia’s speech last night? No exercise; you can go shopping but no buying booze, but you may buy sugary drinks; I am not clear about motorists; government closed down, but nothing about banks and the suspension of payments, apart from a brief mention of ATMs.

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  • @TLSN

    There is something about the human condition that Christians call good and evil. I call it savagery. The man is beyond redemption. But, from his name, I am not surprised. Some cultures have no soul. They are vile. Is that the man from the hotel chain?
    Our upbringing can influence how we behave for generations. It is not yet clear how, but that historical memory becomes part of our cultural DNA and envy, greed and lack of empathy form part of that distorted personality.
    The man should be driven from public life and removed from the country. Social vermin.

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  • Tick Tock Tick Tock

    Can somebody tell me if the virus has a daytime or nighttime( time line) to be active
    I can understand large cities imposing time lines because of large populations and doing so with sensible measures
    However this 6 pm – 8am time line is a joke and does nothing to stop the spread of the virus
    Even though the PM knows and it has been documented that the virus is being brought into the country by visitors the airport remains open
    Why wouldnt the PM do the right thing and close the airport instead of making the populace nighttime hostages in their home all because of reckless and unconscionable pretentious measures built within a curfew policy while the main source of the problem which are the ports of call remains untouched

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  • It would be interesting to see how barbados govt force Jamaica to open its borders for the Jamaican female who broke the curfew
    This is going to be interesting
    The court deemed that the woman should be deported what transpires behind close doors as govt tries to push it weight against a closed border policy in Jamaica would expose govt hypocrisy and govt many ways of trying to fool people with terms like humantarian grounds upon which they can leave their borders open and welcome all and sundry to borders
    As i say the Trinidadians had a Constitutional right to return to their country and barbados should have used the Constitution to fight against the hardened policy of Trinidad in like manner which they would have to fight Jamaica if Jamaica refused to let one of their citizens back in the country
    Govt must be consistent in their policies if not the end result makes them look.like fools and headless chickens

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  • SMH cant undetstand how govt insist on keeping the airport open
    What is most dumdfounding is that with all the big heads in govt not one have the brain the size of a pea to tell the PM it is time to close the borders

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  • The behaviour of Trinidad to its own, Barbados having to host Trinidad nationals who have no hope of return until after the crisis, could very well be the catalyst that breaks up CARICOM, just as one from eleven is zero or whatever that was.

    Barbados would be better served in the future by partnering with Guyana and Cuba, especially with the former’s massive resource wealth, despite the current political impasse and the latter for its advanced medical care and social programmes.

    Trinidad has little to offer Barbados, save more runaway capitalism and corruption.

    Business should be encouraged, but not at the cost of social fabric and above all else. Business should be an inclusive part of an advanced economy.

    Trinidad is a failed state. Years of corruption have brought the promise of wealth to a state of economic and social ruination.

    What exactly does it offer Barbados?

    After this episode, Barbados should walk away from CARICOM and work with Guyana and Cuba for the betterment of all three.

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  • Mariposa
    April 2, 2020 5:46 AM

    Did you not hear the speech? Mandatory quarantine to all arrivals. Close borders to what flights? There are none, except for those that will provide much needed supplies to the island and the few wealthy private jets, which the country needs desperately.

    No airline is flying commercially now.

    Aside from which, what is the point of closing borders when the people refuse to listen? Groups still engaging in rumshop antics, shoppers not exercising social distancing?

    The virus is in Barbados already, you really think those forty five are the only ones?

    Some may not like the Czar, but sadly, he is right. Own way….

    For an allegedly literate people, bajans are incredibly dense.

    You see how big countries are being brought to their knees by this virus? In Barbados, likely the death toll from the virus will be in the thousands, let us hope not in the tens of thousands.

    There are many factors which lead me to that thought. Lack of social distancing, high rate of non communicable disease, density of population per square foot. These will all impact the rate of infection and death.

    Very sad, but there it is.

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  • John
    April 2, 2020 2:42 AM

    fortyacresandamule
    April 1, 2020 9:22 PM

    None of us are perfect, far from it, but I am concerned about John. His usual reserved thought seems to have run amok.

    Not sure if the recent liberty on marijuana has caused him to experiment or whether, in isolation, which can be mentally challenging, he is imbibing more of the ESAF White than usual, but he seems to have gone astray form the garden path.

    Put he and Tron together on a daily internet show and all of us may flip out, despite the entertainment value.

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  • Crusoe check grantley Adams website before opening uh mouth so early
    The fact still remains and as govt acknoweldge that the airport and sea port was the vital source of the problem
    Jet blue and American still hauled people out of airports that are opened and bring them to barbados
    I also made mention of private jets still being welcomed
    Go do your research
    Leave me alone

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  • NO..Crusoe govt had a Constitutional right to stand up to Trinidad govt against the policy of refusing to let the 35 people back into the country
    Barbados govt was wrong in not using the constitution as it main force of power
    Since govt set an unconstitutional precedent it would be of interest if Jamaica simply say yes to the deported female or use the same tactic as Trinidad
    As i pointed out clearly govt does not run on feelings but must abide by all laws which are relevant to keeping its country social and economic enviroment stable
    These laws guide and give purposeful meaning and direction to avoid pitfalls and to guide Democratic countries in times of crisis

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  • Obviously the woman will be deported when Jamaica opens its borders, until that happens she resides at Dodds.

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  • John A April 1, 2020 10:06 PM #: “You trying to tell me they have more old people on the streets after dark than younger ones?”

    @ John A

    Surely by now you should realize Mari is being provocative.

    She was criticizing ‘government’s’ partial lockdown, calling for more stringent regulations, now that is about to occur, she has to find something to criticize at all cost.

    It’s what I call the ‘George Street Condition.’

    Hahahahahaha!!!!

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  • David April 2, 2020 6:29 AM

    Obviously the woman will be deported when Jamaica opens its borders, until that happens she resides at Dodd
    xxccccccxcccccccccccvvv

    David do u know the time period for Jamaica govt to open its borders
    Also until then would it not cost the taxpayers of barbados to housed her
    This govt has not laid out any plans that can deal with unforseen curcumstances
    Oh btw has govt tested her or quarantined her before putting her amongst the prison population
    What other detail is known of this female
    Another reason to belive thay Barbados has a headless bunch running this country

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  • @ Mariposa

    I want to ask you three simple questions.

    Yes, “I agree the Trinidadians had a Constitutional right to return to their country.”

    (1). “Barbados should have used the Constitution to fight against the hardened policy of Trinidad….” Please explain.

    (2). Let’s assume by ‘saying’ using the Constitution to fight, you mean going to Court. I’m sure you’re aware that process may take a few days for lawyers to get a hearing, which most likely would be adjourned. And, since the situation was ‘immediate,’ lawyers would need time to prepare their case. So, the process to “fight” Trinidad would obviously take time.

    Bearing in this in mind and the fact the Trinis can’t return to TT, could you please ‘tell’ BU where they would reside while the “fight” is going on?

    (3). As it relates to the Jamaican, comparing Trinis who were stranded with a Jamaican who is LIVING HERE and broke the law, ‘is like comparing apples and oranges,’ they’re two different scenarios.

    If Jamaica implemented a closed border regulation similar to that of TT, don’t you believe the Barbados government would wait until Jamaica’s borders have reopened to deport him/her?

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  • @ Mariposa

    Again you are on the ball. There is no need for a great constitutional convention. The three Trinidad national were intransit through Barbados with a final destination in their home country.
    If Trinidad had indicated that they were not going to accept their nationals, then the government of Barbados should have returned them to the previous port of embarkation and on the plane they arrived on. Instead, as usual, we started playing social workers to the world.
    Of course, we are dealing with human beings, but both Trinidad and the UK share these values too. Citizenship/nationality means something in law.
    However, we are world class; we punch above our weight; we are top lawyers.

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  • RE: “Also until then would it not cost the taxpayers of barbados to housed her?”

    I’m thinking it wouldn’t cost the tax payers just as much as it would cost (or even much less) to remanding a Jamaican who was caught attempting to traffic drugs into the island and sentenced to X amount of years in prison; or one who committed any crime and was remanded for a similar period.

    RE: “Oh btw has govt tested her or quarantined her before putting her amongst the prison population.”

    With COVID-19 precautionary measures in place, only an idiot would believe the authorities won’t test someone who has been remanded, especially when the state is responsible for the safety of prison wardens and inmates.

    The ‘George Street Condition.’

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