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  • Does it matter when they open the ports of entry? She will be retained at Dodds until such time.

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  • “This is indeed a crisis of capitalism… and the flip side of crisis is opportunity. I am looking for opportunity to help build a better society post crisis: one that radically reduces social disparities and cares for disadvantaged people much more effectively.”

    there you go, intelligent people see useful, proactive, progressive opportunities..

    greedy parasites only see opportunities to steal…and fill their pockets to bloated levels with useless paper…

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  • Artax@ John A

    Surely by now you should realize Mari is being provocative.

    She was criticizing ‘government’s’ partial lockdown, calling for more stringent regulations, now that is about to occur, she has to find something to criticize at all cost.

    It’s what I call the ‘George Street Condition.’

    Hahahahahaha

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    Not at all being provocative
    I call them as i see them
    Govt leads by.example my first and foremost point was a principle lead by saving govt cost and peoples lives
    Hence i called for early measures to put in place
    Now at the eleventh hour govt has put a pretentious policy in placed highlighted by an unknown Jamaican women in locks on front covers of papers and across social mediaa as a first example of strength in carrying out the law
    As head of Caricom Mia should know that this kind of image festers contradiction and controversial opinions in the minds of the sister country also her at home and in her homeland
    An image which should not have been allowed and which brings with it thoughts which are controversial and divisive
    Views which a couple years ago were already dissed out in public and political forums leaving sour goodwill between both countries when Myrie was arrested

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  • “Again you are on the ball. There is no need for a great constitutional convention. The three Trinidad national were intransit through Barbados with a final destination in their home country.
    If Trinidad had indicated that they were not going to accept their nationals, then the government of Barbados should have returned them to the previous port of embarkation and on the plane they arrived on. Instead, as usual, we started playing social workers to the world.
    Of course, we are dealing with human beings, but both Trinidad and the UK share these values too. Citizenship/nationality means something in law.
    However, we are world class; we punch above our weight; we are top lawyers.”

    UTTER NONSENSE!!!!!!

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  • Do you understand the majority of cases are Barbadians who did not manage their personal situation well by traveling to COVID hotspots and returning to Barbados with the virus?

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  • Artax sorry bro on issues that are bent to defy constitutional laws
    I am a. Constitutional boar

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  • “The virus is in Barbados already, you really think those forty five are the only ones?”

    Again…multiply 45 X 10 and you will have a general idea of the MINIMUM amount of people walking around LOADED WITH THE DISEASE…and have no clue particularly if they are asymptomatic….they have been preaching that from DAY 1..

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  • Baje April 1, 2020 7:51 PM

    I AM VERY SKEPTICAL THEY HAVE BEEN NO DEATHS.

    SOMETHING FISHY ABOUT THIS BARBADOSTODAY STORY:

    Close the caskets for now

    Good point very observing
    Worth asking the question why

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  • “Now at the eleventh hour govt has put a pretentious policy in placed highlighted by an unknown Jamaican women in locks on front covers of papers and across social mediaa as a first example of strength in carrying out the law
    As head of Caricom Mia should know that this kind of image festers contradiction and controversial opinions in the minds of the sister country also her at home and in her homeland
    An image which should not have been allowed and which brings with it thoughts which are controversial and divisive
    Views which a couple years ago were already dissed out in public and political forums leaving sour goodwill between both countries when Myrie was arrested.”

    @ Mariposa

    Your above comment is nuff, nuff shiite.

    Perhaps Astor B’s rum punch was a bit too strong for you.

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  • Instead of some of you rehashing the same tired points, conspiracies etc follow the lead of Peter, fortyacres, John A, Vincent and a few others by enhancing your contributions.

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  • John

    Stop cutting and pasting.

    From tomorrow ALL OF GEORGA is going in a SHELTER IN PLACE status.

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  • @ Mariposa

    Ignore mass hysteria. People who have nothing to add to discussions nitpick or shout. Ask them to detail, step by step, where yo have gone wrong.
    There is a Bajan style of discourse: make a bold, unsubstantiated statement, and expect people to follow it as truth; in reply to a detailed argument dismiss it as false, or typically use an abusive word; Google crap and present it as truth; or, if the person asks a questions, treat it as a statement.
    Very few make a detailed argument because that is not the way learning by rote teaches you to defend a discursive position. Learning by rote means what you say is binary, to oppose it is to be wrong. That is why they see people with differing views as the enemy, then the aggression and bitterness come out.
    It is great in a small universe where most people do not know any better, but in the big wide world you will be sent for psychiatric treatment.

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  • As usual you always know evert thing.

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  • “Ignore mass hysteria. People who have nothing to add to discussions nitpick or shout. Ask them to detail, step by step, where yo have gone wrong.
    There is a Bajan style of discourse: make a bold, unsubstantiated statement, and expect people to follow it as truth; in reply to a detailed argument dismiss it as false, or typically use an abusive word; Google crap and present it as truth; or, if the person asks a questions, treat it as a statement.
    Very few make a detailed argument because that is not the way learning by rote teaches you to defend a discursive position. Learning by rote means what you say is binary, to oppose it is to be wrong. That is why they see people with differing views as the enemy, then the aggression and bitterness come out.
    It is great in a small universe where most people do not know any better, but in the big wide world you will be sent for psychiatric treatment.”

    I agree with the above comment, because it describes ALL contributors to BU……. including the author.

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  • @ PLT

    Your point about building a new economy will be a must now and not an option. Tourism will take a while to recover and several of the businesses that have closed will not reopen.

    There is great scope for agriculture here but it is a field many would not be interested in. No doubt you will hear the politicians speak of how people who are laid off should become self employed, however in a depressed economy what will be their chance of success? I expect the banks too will be extremely risk averse to finance any activity that depends on retail either.

    It is my view that as we speak now of the virus and what we are doing to fight it, we also need to lay out a plan for how we plan to deal with the massive financial fallout that will follow it.

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  • David April 2, 2020 7:19 AM

    Does it matter when they open the ports of entry? She will be retained at Dodds until such
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    Should it not matter unless u are willing to pay out of pocket expense for her room and board along with travelling expense to her homeland
    Boy yuh tell u

    Just observing

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  • @ Crusoe
    Trinidad is a failed state. Years of corruption have brought the promise of wealth to a state of economic and social ruination.

    Yet you want Barbados to get hitched to Guyana???

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  • Artax @ Mariposa

    Your above comment is nuff, nuff shiite.

    Perhaps Astor B’s rum punch was a bit too strong for you

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    But Worth repeating

    “Now at the eleventh hour govt has put a pretentious policy in placed highlighted by an unknown Jamaican women in locks on front covers of papers and across social mediaa as a first example of strength in carrying out the law
    As head of Caricom Mia should know that this kind of image festers contradiction and controversial opinions in the minds of the sister country also her at home and in her homeland
    An image which should not have been allowed and which brings with it thoughts which are controversial and divisive
    Views which a couple years ago were already dissed out in public and political forums leaving sour goodwill between both countries when Myrie was arrested.

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  • @Crusoe,

    the real question is what has Barbados to offer any other island? man, you all can really spout nonsense

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  • @ John A

    To add to your point about agriculture: a single lime in the UK cost 30p, about 90 cents; and a single eddoe costs 40p, about $1.20. More important, about a new economy, we have had any number of ‘new’ economies since the Second World War, and particular since 1970. All these have passed Barbados by.
    I do not want to go over economic history, but look at the spectacular growth of the US economy between 1945 and 65 – when the US opened its doors to large numbers of immigrants, which itself led to the high number of Caribbean people now in the US.
    Look at nations such as Taiwan, South Korea, Vietnam, China, India, Singapore, Hong Kong, and compare their state of development with that of Barbados in 1965, 1975, 1985, 1995, 2005 and 2015 – and posit an explanation for why at every stage ALL these nations pulled away from Barbados, the Caribbean and the rest of Latin America.
    We must stop finding excuses and face reality in the face.
    Or, take our current problems: a medical/health crisis, which has created an accompanying supply side economic crisis, which will inevitably lead to a food crisis and then to a demand side economic crisis, in which a massive fiscal deficit is the only workable solution.
    Read Milton Friedman on how such crises should be fiscally resolved. The Japanese are now dumping helicopter money in people’s bank accounts, they did this in the late 1990s and it did not work. The great Donald Trump is now doing the same in the US, but, being Trump, he has reserved US$500bn for corporate America. Some people never learn.
    How does all that translate in to a small semi-open economy, with no industrial or services sector worth anything, apart from tourism?
    As you know, despite two major speeches by the president, including a three-hour marathon, nothing has been said by the president about how the crises will impact the Barbados economy; nothing from her as minister of finance, nothing from her three economic gurus, nothing from the well-funded economic department at UWI.
    Sadly, and our sympathies go out to her, in the middle of the crisis the president has been laid up with a medical ‘procedure’. Nothing has been said about how serious is this procedure, but the nation is expected to take her on her word.
    I ask: is her medical procedure so serious that she should abandon ship in the middle of a crisis to a relatively inexperience, if rather nice, minister? No one talks about the so-called new economy because not many have any ideas. Those that do are reluctant to speak out in case they embarrass themselves.
    Where are the media that should be leading the public discussion?

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  • @Dullard

    What would you have us living on the rock do besides to dig a deep hole?

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  • @Crusoe

    Trinidad has little to offer Barbados, save more runaway capitalism and corruption
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    That may be so, but we are hitched to Trinidad and the divorce will cost us plenty, even worse it wouldn’t be like many divorces where the spouse is entitled to “half” we would be lucky to escape with the shirt on our back.

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  • Dry taps in Pot House, other rural villages

    Residents at Pot House, St John are frustrated that it has now been weeks since they last saw water running from their taps at a time when health authorities are advising them to wash their hands frequently to stop the spread of COVID-19 on the island

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  • Yikes….Prohibition hits Barbados!!! The sale of alcohol prohibited!!!
    How I gine sterilize muh hands, lol?? Can’t even now enjoy my ‘nightcap’ to get relaxed & fall sleep!
    Beaches closed…… where will I get my early morning exercise to build up muh immune system to fight-off the Virus when I catch it? Yes… sooner or later, we all will ‘get it’… like the flu…. so we gotta build-up the body to fight it off until a vaccine is found.

    Wuhloss…. she just bring in curfew and but for a few not following it, all ah we gine pay! The jump from 27 to 43 was those affected 1-2 week ago, not in the past 3 days. Shudda give the curfew time to ‘bite’ … these additional restrictions indicate a bit of a knee-jerk reaction!

    All needed was to ban alcohol sales from Bars, Restuarants, Rum shops, etc. to stop congregating … didn’t see long lines in supermarkets in alcohol section….. why not allow it in such places? Home delivery!!

    Did’nt see fishermen on the new ‘list’….. got to walk cross de beach to get to muh boat…. mean I brekking de law? But not my friend, he can reach his boat from a pier, no need to ‘touch’ de beach. Clarification ??? We need fish as a staple food … not greasy chicken!

    Sad to say but dis ting won’t be defeated until all 250,000+ bajans get it, and recover, and then according to the ‘experts’, won’t get it again….. alas, there will be a % who will need medical IT care to survive (small, we hope) … and a smaller % (we hope) that will not survive …. unless a vaccine comes soon ….. let us face de facts!

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  • @Hal A
    I ask: is her medical procedure so serious that she should abandon ship in the middle of a crisis to a relatively inexperience,
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    Why are you questioning someone’s decision to have a medical procedure? How do you know what medical advice she received? Being PM doesn’t make one invulnerable and BTW the speech has all the hallmarks of a Mia address I would be surprised if the speech wasn’t a Mia production.

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  • SargeantApril 2, 2020 8:37 AM

    @Crusoe

    Trinidad has little to offer Barbados, save more runaway capitalism and corruption
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    That may be so, but we are hitched to Trinidad and the divorce will cost us plenty, even worse it wouldn’t be like many divorces where the spouse is entitled to “half” we would be lucky to escape with the shirt on our back

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    That is throwing in the towel with a defeatist attitude
    Trinidad cannot be allowed to become the carrier of bullyism in this time of crisis holding barbados as hostages to favours which Trinidad gave or loan to barbados
    This crisis has indeed expose the dirt and hypocrisy within each nations bosom
    Barbados govt has now decided on two fronts one to endanger the lives of the people and discard many principles in the Constitution by which they can fight to fend off the Caricom bullies that take advantage of barbados humanitarian benevolence in times of crisis

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  • Let’s hope the Ms. Mia government understands that they should work very closely with those countries now EXTENDING A HAND so that she does not become overwhelmed and put the people in even MORE DANGER….the days for playing games and massaging BLOATED EGOS…are done.

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  • WURA-War-on-U
    April 2, 2020 7:24 AM

    “The virus is in Barbados already, you really think those forty five are the only ones?”
    Again…multiply 45 X 10 and you will have a general idea of the MINIMUM amount of people walking around LOADED WITH THE DISEASE…and have no clue particularly if they are asymptomatic….they have been preaching that from DAY 1..

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    No test kits are needed to determine if people have a temperature.

    Watch the video in the Duterte clip above and you will see troops out with thermometers pointing and clicking and finding none with a temperature.

    This is the best mass testing method that seems available now.

    Put some checkpoints around the place and point and click.

    Common sense says very few if any people will be stopped.

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  • Hal Austin
    April 2, 2020 4:43 AM

    Who scripted Santia’s speech last night? No exercise; you can go shopping but no buying booze, but you may buy sugary drinks; I am not clear about motorists; government closed down, but nothing about banks and the suspension of payments, apart from a brief mention of ATMs.

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    You noticed that too?

    Speech has in loads of illogic and speaker’s eyes communicating fear.

    Fear and confusion is the only message she sent.

    We don’t need fear or confusion.

    We need clear heads.

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  • @ Mari

    If it’s worth repeating, at the risk of being accused of ‘nit picking,’ I’m going to ask you:

    Could you please explain the DIFFERENCES between a Jamaican ‘drug mule’ being held at the airport, attempting to bring drugs into the island, subsequently arrested, charged and brought before the law Court, and the media publishes a story on the crime, along with a photo of the accused handcuffed, under police escort……..

    ……. and the Jamaican you’re referring to, that was arrested for breaking the law, charged, brought before the Court and the media publishes a story on the crime, along with a photo of the accused handcuffed, under police escort?

    RE: “As head of Caricom Mia should know that this kind of image festers contradiction and controversial opinions in the minds of the sister country also her at home and in her homeland.”

    If I were to follow your logic, wouldn’t a Jamaican, or any other non-national living here, being arrested and charged for committing a crime also “fester contradiction and controversial opinions as well?

    RE: “Views which a couple years ago were already dissed out in public and political forums leaving sour goodwill between both countries when Myrie was arrested.”

    The above comment is a NON-POINT. And, it begs the question, why are you attempting to correlate TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SITUATIONS?

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  • What the hell does Barbados constitution has to do with that of Trinidad or Trinidad constitution has to do with Barbados?

    How can on fight the other its own constitution?

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  • VITAL information..

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  • @ John
    Speech has in loads of illogic and speaker’s eyes communicating fear. Fear and confusion is the only message she sent.
    We don’t need fear or confusion. We need clear heads.

    Well said John. She looked terrified.

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  • @Sargeant

    I am questioning an elected public servant. If Mr Trudeau had taken ill, I am sure the people of Canada would have been told what was wrong.
    I am asking because the nation is in turmoil, it is facing a crisis it has never before faced, and the president is missing. I would expect, and any leader of any democracy would, that if the ‘medical procedure’ was not that serious that she would continue to act as president.
    Instead, we had one of the more inexperienced members of the Cabinet (and someone I respect), acting as prime minister. Previously George Payne acted as PM; why not the attorney general and swear in one of the other lawyers (Thorne?) as acting AG?
    In any case, we are so used to secrecy, that even in matters of state we believe, erroneously, that the office holder has a right to privacy. Yes. Private citizens have a right to privacy.
    I know it is not the same, so do not shout, but did Donville Inniss deserve a right to private as to how he got his wealth? Look what that right has done to us.

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  • @john 2

    11 rights we all have in Trinidad and Tobago

    https://www.looptt.com/content/11-rights-we-all-have-trinidad-and-tobago

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  • She used expressive body language to convey the urgency of the message being communicated.

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  • @ Hal

    You no doubt remember here in the 60s and 70s when we had a flourishing selection of cottage industries catering to the domestic market. I remember as a young man going into The Women’s Self-help in town and being amazed at the range of products our proud Bajans produced. Maybe it’s time the government put in place a program to revitalise this sector for the domestic market.

    Nothing annoys me more than to go in the supermarket and see jams and all types of products from Trinidad and little on the shelves from Barbados. Maybe it’s time to pull a Trump and select say 40 items and assist our people to get the cottage industries going again, by offering them some financial help and maybe even some market protection.

    All the fancy WTO rules will no doubt be thrown out the window in the new post covid economy and replaced with a ” Home drum must beat first ” approach. We don’t have to reinvent the wheel, all we need to do is in a structured way reintroduce what we had before.

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  • @Dullard, What would you have us living on the rock do besides to dig a deep hole?

    Great question Blogmaster. I wont pretend to have the answer.
    But isn’t that what the hordes of ministers, consultants and special advisors are being paid handsomely to figure out?

    I am almost sure though, that going cap in hand to our Guyanese cousins is not the answer.

    The country should focus on the absolute basics. That should translate into easy wins. Planting more food with an eye towards import substitution should be a priority.

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  • @Dullard

    This is the mistake we make and one Peter has been tirelessly debunking. We are in this together, the cadre of people you mention come from among us. The are mere mortals. The challenge is for a country to harness the collective intelligence of its people; its intelligence.

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  • You cann’t manage what you cann’t measure. Like the idea of temperature testing and isolation. Furthermore, the idea of sanitizing the streets and places that are heavily traversed makes a lot of sense.

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  • Donks, Gripe and Josh

    The alarming reality is Barbados covid infection rate per capita is the highest in the Americas.

    Now is not time for a blame game. Action to slow down infection must be number one priority

    What are Haiti’s numbers? Does poorest nation in region have capacity to even run tests?

    Covid is a global pandemic of Noah’s flood dimension. The world community has to work hard and fast with the common goal to reach higher ground.

    Politics should be banned until this monster is tamed.

    Covid’s bullet speed spread is its most dreaded feature. Barbados cases have raced to 44. Noteworthy is no fatalities.

    Guyana with 19 cases has four deaths . Are there nuggets of info in the various scenarios to assist health experts.

    Our public health sector must be lauded for fearlessness and determination in the face of this deadly virus. They place their own well being on the line.

    Communities have to pay attention to their instructions. The call to avoid panic is a key directive to follow.

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  • @ John A

    You are so right again. The problem, in a circular way, is that we have ‘educated’ our young people out of the arts and crafts and basic trades. They all now want to be doctors, lawyers, actuaries, politicians – and, what is more, the politicians do not see the need to provide relevant education and training to young people. They do not value trades. But look at Germany. We have failed and at some point must accept it.
    I do not want to repeat what has been said on numerous occasions, but in my youth we had a shrimp industry and two world class (genuinely so) foundries.
    We are going backward. I have a little experience of two of our sectors: print journalism and broadcasting. And I am sure you have a look at BBC World and CNN. Cow compare the quality of journalism we get locally, print or broadcast. This should tell you something.
    It is not a matter of resources, but of ideas and skills.

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  • havePea brain

    For those 11 right in Trinidad all I see is …ALL CITIZEN

    is the Barbados government a citizen of Trinidad? Or how can and where can we fight trini government to make them allow the 35 in instead of them disembarking in Barbados?

    Walk me through the process because I am totally lost.

    which court were we supposed to file the original claim? Barbados, Trinidad or CCJ and how long do you think it would take for the case to be heard and completed?

    who would be the lawyer, our AG?

    etc

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  • @Hal,

    either we reset or COVID and its aftermath will cause us to or both. why can traditional education and trades go hand in hand. why must it be one or the other. practically speaking it is better to have a trade or at least that is how i see it.

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  • Donks Gripe and Josh

    rate per capita is the highest in English speaking Americas

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  • Detroit to be first to deploy Abbott Labs’ 5-minute COVID-19 test, mayor says

    Detroit Mayor Mike Duggan said today on Wolf Blitzer’s CNN show that the city of Detroit is on track to be the first city to deploy Abbott Labs’ five-minute COVID-19 test. The mayor said the test would be available for first responders. The goal, he said, was to test those first responders who are self-isolating but have yet to test positive for the virus.

    The city of Detroit received the Abbott Labs tests today, April 1. They will be available for use within the next 24 hours, the mayor said.

    This system from Abbott received emergency clearance for use by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. It’s a lab-in-a-box that is roughly the size of a small kitchen appliance. The small size and rapid test results mean it can be deployed and utilized more quickly than other methods.

    The City of Detroit is getting hit especially hard by the novel coronavirus. According to recent numbers, the counties around Detroit contain 81% of Michigan’s 7,615 coronavirus cases. More than 20% of the 2,500-strong police force is quarantined with suspected instances of COVID-19.

    The significant number of cases in Detroit led the mayor to go outside of traditional channels to obtain the tests first.

    As The Washington Post tells it, Mayor Mike Duggan secured the cellphone number of Miles White, the chairman and outgoing CEO of Abbot Labs, and woke him up Sunday morning to beg for the test. This early morning phone call netted the city five machines and 5,000 tests.

    Today the company said in a tweet that it’s making the system available this week in an urgent care setting in the U.S. where the company already has instrumentation. Abbott Labs says it already holds the most significant molecular point-of-care footprint in the U.S., and is “widely available” across doctor’s offices, urgent care clinics, emergency rooms and other medical facilities.

    Abbott expects it will be able to produce 5 million tests in April, split between the new rapid tests and traditional lab tests that received emergency authorization from the FDA on March 18.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/detroit-first-deploy-abbott-labs-002626303.html

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  • The post covid economy will change all the rules on what is or is not the best business to be in.

    I will say now that the businesses catering to the domestic market will do better over the short to midterm than those dealing in Tourism. We have an economy that is 70% tourism based, in the post covid economy that will not be the golden goose for a considerable period. In my view that is the major challenge before us besides the actual virus and needs to be discussed urgently.

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  • NorthernObserver

    @HA
    peterlawrencethompsonApril 2, 2020 12:41 AM

    @David & @John
    “We know it will not be championed by the bourgeoisie.”
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    You are correct of course… except for those of us who are traitors to our class 😉
    I think that the split may well be more demographic than class based, with millenials and everyone younger finally getting fed up with the way we Baby boomers have screwed up the world and their lives… except for those of us who are traitors to their generation 😉

    so you ask….. “Where did @PLT talk about traitors to his generation?”….he spoke in the final sentence about traitors to THEIR generation.

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  • john2April 2, 2020 10:47 AM

    havePea brain

    For those 11 right in Trinidad all I see is …ALL CITIZEN
    Xxxxxxc.

    Can u answer this question are the 35 trinidians who were locked out of Trinidad not citizens of Trinidad
    Does barbados constitution say that barbados have a right to keep them if Trinidad lock their borders
    If barbados kept them under a humanitarian policy there is nothing wrong with that
    However barbados does not by law have to keep them because of another country immigration policy

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  • BUT HOW can Barbados challenge trini on constitunal grounds?

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  • What we really need now is a scapegoat, somebody responsible. It is possible that the Chinese brought the virus to the island last December.

    All Barbadians should therefore be reminded that the DLP government has signed numerous agreements with China from 2008 on, for example a visa agreement. The DLP has also opened an embassy in China. Sandyman was its first ambassador.

    So the people have a lot of questions to ask the DLP. Is Sandyman now in quarantine or is he still walking around freely on the island?

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @John A April 2, 2020 11:18 AM
    Tourism is dead. Kaput. Fini. It’s pushing up daisies. Of course remnants of it will hang about for decades; after all there are still people who make their living rearing horses, but the horse based economy is long gone.

    Technology means that the post covid economy can still cater to the global market, but our products then should be biased toward intellectual property.

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @NorthernObserver April 2, 2020 11:23 AM
    I do include myself among those inclined to be traitors to their generation. The change in pronoun was because I expect to find more fellow travellers among the traitors to generation than I do among traitors to class.

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  • @ peterlawrencethompson April 2, 2020 11:51 AM

    Your analysis on tourism is certainly correct for the next few years. I’m sure you agree with me that Barbadians must prepare themselves for a massive loss of prosperity. We need donkey carts, not SUVs.We should be happy if in 2030 we reach the level of the Sinckler years, which were already not rosy. Also bear in mind that we are currently in an IMF programme and have no more reserves.

    My questions are this:
    1) Who is selling this message to the public?
    2) Who should bear the responsibility?

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  • ohn2April 2, 2020 11:49 AM

    BUT HOW can Barbados challenge trini on constitunal grounds?

    Just stepout of the debate
    and stop using your feelings to drive the issue
    Stupid question

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  • @PLT

    I would say yes and also concentrate on the needs of the domestic market more in terms of import substitution.

    On tourism I would say that although some tourism will return in the medium term, the levels of occupancy we are accustom to will not be there. The one horse economy therefore needs to be urgently addressed.

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  • that you cannot answer

    here is you chance to teach BU family some constitutional law.

    or avoid answer because it the height of stupidity coming from your finget tips

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  • @ PLT
    @John A

    If tourism is dead, what are we going to do about the hotel corridor t hat underpins BERT? Is that dead too?

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  • More than 1,000 in US die in a single day from coronavirus, doubling the worst daily death toll of the flu

    The U.S. topped 1,000 coronavirus deaths in a single day for the first time Wednesday, a daily death toll more than double that of two of America’s most deadly illnesses – lung cancer and the flu.

    Death counts from the virus are difficult to keep up to date, but the Johns Hopkins coronavirus database – whose sources include the World Health Organization, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the European CDC and the National Health Commission of China – shows that the U.S. hit 1,040 cases Wednesday at 10:25 p.m. ET. Since the virus’ first appearance in the U.S. in late January, 5,116 people have died and more than 215,000 have been infected.

    The previous high mark for a single day in the U.S. was Tuesday, with 504 deaths.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/more-1-000-u-die-023618568.html

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  • @John2
    Here is an easy assignment
    Go tell Mia that the people in ST . John had dry taps for many weeks and the people need the water to wash their hands so not to spread the virus
    .cant waste any more time trying to schooled u on basic constitutional law

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  • Yikes….Prohibition hits Barbados!!! The sale of alcohol prohibited!!!
    How I gine sterilize muh hands, lol?? Can’t even now enjoy my ‘nightcap’ to get relaxed & fall sleep!
    Beaches closed…… where will I get my early morning exercise to build up muh immune system to fight-off the Virus when I catch it? Yes… sooner or later, we all will ‘get it’… like the flu…. so we gotta build-up the body to fight it off until a vaccine is found.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Ta ken in order presented –

    Water trucks should be coming around. Try easy listening music. Try dancing to invigorating music.
    And finally I have not ‘caught the flu’ or a cold for nearly forty years and my son is sixteen and I cannot remember ever having that problem. Come to think of it, can’t remember seeing my mother or father with such either and my brother says he has a cold but his symptoms are more like allergies left untreated.

    A little late for early morning exercise but try this –

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  • @ Hal

    For something to be dead it would of had to been alive first. The only evidence I have of a hotel corridor being a reality, is a duty free $300,000 Mercedes a fellow driving around as the marketing manager of a hotel that don’t exist.

    The financial position cruise ships and hotels are in now does not put them in the eyes of bankers as being safe investments.

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  • Pick your level of difficulty!

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  • NorthernObserver

    @plt
    your words were timely…..in these days of self isolation, we have a daily video conference with my three children. On Sunday, the topic became how I was dealing with tenants at my rental properties. The two who rent themselves, being the most interested. The conversation transitioned to those two, accusing their other sibling of being a traitor to their generation. The difference being money, that sibling is the rebel, who sold his operation to a FANG outfit. I appreciate your use of ‘their’ was different, but the concept was timely. And it carried me back, to as a younger boy, listening to my father admonish my grandfather, for certain decisions taken. And in some cases, later life discussions I would have with my father.
    What is common to all, is the underlying issue of financial resources, and how they are earned, spent and distributed within society.

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  • Here’s some help for you!

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  • john2 April 2 2020 10:47 AM #: “Walk me through the process because I am totally lost. which court were we supposed to file the original claim? Barbados, Trinidad or CCJ and how long do you think it would take for the case to be heard and completed?”

    @ john2

    Her comments aroused my curiosity as well. That’s why I asked similar questions and for her to explain the process to which she’s referring.

    The level of hypocrisy exhibited on BU is, more often than not, ‘mind boggling.’ On one hand, we have some people who are keen on seeing Caribbean integration become a reality….. a united Caribbean, one currency, one central bank….. a single market economy, how we can’t face global issues as a divided region, etc.

    Then. on the other hand, the same wise people are condemning the ‘government’ for providing refuge to citizens of a fellow CARICOM state that were denied entry into their country, due to unfortunate circumstances.

    We can argue about the legality or illegality of the T&T government’s decision; if it was unconstitutional or infringed the 35 Trini’s constitutional rights. But, in the meantime, if the issue is taken to a local Court, CCJ or CARICOM, what would have been the fate of these 35 Trinis. Where would they be residing while this “fight” is going on?

    The resident pantomath suggested ‘government’ “should have returned them to the previous port of embarkation and on the plane they arrived on.” Instead, as usual, we started playing social workers to the world.”

    My question is, are the UK authorities OBLIGATED to ACCEPT them?

    If so, perhaps he may want to refer the forum to any laws that obligates them to do so. If not, then, contributors could likewise opine he made “an unsubstantiated statement, and expect people to follow it as truth.” However, it’s just a matter of his opinion, which he has a right to express. But, contributors also have a right to dismiss those opinions and offer reasons why……. if they choose to do so.

    Additionally, in my opinion, saying Barbados is “playing social workers to the world” is perhaps an unfortunate statement. And, I ‘say’ this from the point of view that, in the event of Barbados being confronted by an unfortunate situation, whether it be natural, man made or other wise, we would similarly desire some level of assistance from our Caribbean neighbours.

    If they refuse, would he ADMONISH them for NOT RENDERING any ASSISTANCE to us in out time of need?

    If I were to follow that logic, then, is he implying the Barbados ‘government’ and private sector rendering assistance, for example, to the hurricane ravished Bahamian Abaco Islands, is “playing social worker to the world?”

    But as is usual with him, if one does not bow down to him and accept whatever he ‘say’ is right and challenge his positions, rather than discuss, he immediately takes offence and unleashes a tirade of pejorative remarks, while accusing them of Googling and learning by rote.

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  • @ Tron April 2, 2020 1:02 AM
    “The closure of Cin-Cin was a genius move. The owners obviously anticipated the Chinese bioattack.”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    How about the constant call made by you for the ‘cutting-down-to-size’ of the Bajan Civil Service overgrown with the highly-paid unproductive mandarins behaving like parasites sucking on the mangy dog called the Bajan economy?

    Should we now describe you as the BU seer predicting the restructuring of the Bajan economy without divine interference?

    Would you agree that Covid is about to do what you have been preaching- like the prophet Jeremiah of old- needed to be performed through radical but life-saving invasive surgery?

    We shall soon see, DV, if your beloved leader is that dictatorially progressive enough as to impose a 30% reduction on all emoluments and benefits (including pensions and transfers) paid from the Treasury aka taxpayers’ pockets?

    For there is absolutely no way- while looking through any prism of foresight and wisdom- that Barbados can continue with the current welfare state especially the lavish feeding of the thousands of public sector hangers-on (and the supernumerary of managerial misfits) while those in the contracting productive private sector and the main source of taxation have to cut and contrive to barely survive with many having to suck salt as a result of losing their livelihood.

    The public sector is now faced with the most nationalistic of questions of this Covid time and its aftermath:

    ‘Ask not what the emaciated taxpayers can give you to maintain your sweet life of an overly-fattened pig but how much cutting back in your opulent lifestyle are you prepared to make to avoid the full effects of the Passover called Covid’.

    Would Bim be forced to make the Hobson’s choice of a ‘voluntary’ cutback to reflect the pending times or be forced to live within its means by way of a visit by the other dreaded imported virus called ‘Devaluation’?

    Why can’t the political class for once show an iota of leadership skills by setting the example of sacrifice to save the nation called Barbados by turning those statesmanship words of survival into a motto of reality to reflect real ‘Pride & Industry’?

    Are you, Tron, prepared to ascribe the following clarion call to arms to fight for national salvation of goddess Bim to your Bajan Joan of Ark the heroine MAM?

    “Never in the {Bajan} field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few!”

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  • Shenzhen becomes first Chinese city to ban eating cats and dogs

    Shenzhen has become the first Chinese city to ban the sale and consumption of dog and cat meat.

    It comes after the coronavirus outbreak was linked to wildlife meat, prompting Chinese authorities to ban the trade and consumption of wild animals.

    Shenzhen went a step further, extending the ban to dogs and cats. The new law will come into force on 1 May.

    Thirty million dogs a year are killed across Asia for meat, says Humane Society International (HSI).

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/shenzhen-becomes-first-chinese-city-080241333.html

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  • @ac

    The AG admitted that the Barbados government could have sent the Trinis back to London their last port of board. Barbados accepted the group on humanitarian considerations. You may disagree with the decision, next.

    @John

    All across the world and the service based economies of the Caribbean conversations are being had regarding the need to recalibrate economies. This is a time to have relevant discussions about new economic policy. The ignorance of the past is just that, the past.

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  • DavidApril 2, 2020 1:02 PM

    @ac

    The AG admitted that the Barbados government could have sent the Trinis back to London their last port of board. Barbados accepted the group on humanitarian considerations. You may disagree with the decision, next
    ccccccccccc cccc

    Why would the AG choose to send the 35 back to london instead of their place of birth
    Is the AG insinuating that the Triinis had no constitutional rights to their homeland
    Kinda of twisted logic on choosing to send them back to another place other than their homeland
    As i said govt took the easy way and less confrontational decision
    A decision which sets precedent for countries to deny citizens entry into their homeland in times of crisis
    Mark my word such decision would bite barbados in the arse

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  • Individuals, companies and governments make humanitarian decisions every day. These types of decisions will be criticized or supported based on a perspective.

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  • Some things do defy logic
    Words like ” if barbados was in a similar situation”
    Duh all countries are in the same boat
    No one says that under humantarian grounds barbados was not to let them in
    The focus goes beyond humanity and whether barbados could have pursue another choice by way of challenging Trinidad constitution where its law provides a right to entry for its citizens
    Nothing in Trinidad law states with exceptions

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  • DavidApril 2, 2020 1:26 PM

    Individuals, companies and governments make humanitarian decisions every day. These types of decisions will be criticized or supported based on a perspective.

    Sometimes a little crticism is better than towing the line

    Just observing

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  • @ Northern

    The wealth of the world will be hit hard and no one owning any asset will escape.

    For instance let’s say you own a home now with a land tax value of say $1million. If you had to put it on the market today what would you get for it if indeed you could even get it sold? So if that house is your main asset what are you truly worth today?

    My question is where companies and people have their worth tied up in what they see as tangible what truly is their worth? For those retired or retiring who incidentally make up a large part of our tourist base.

    This situation is way deeper than many realise.

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  • @ Baje

    While we are at it, let us also ban eating pig meat.

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  • NorthernObserver

    @ac
    all one need know is….. if anything relates to the BLP or anyone you believe is associated with it, you criticize…..if anything relates to the DLP or anyone you believe is associated with it, you tow the line.

    here endeth today’s lesson.

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  • you mean not even you can explain the shite that does come out you head and through your finger tips.

    poor excuse keep switching and trying to divert.

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  • RE: “The focus goes beyond humanity and whether barbados could have pursue another choice by way of challenging Trinidad constitution where its law provides a right to entry for its citizens.”

    Some statements “defy logic” as well, as is evidenced by the above comment.

    Wouldn’t it the right of the Trinis to challenge their country’s constitution or are you suggesting Barbados should have done so on their (Trinis) behalf?

    If it is the latter, perhaps you may want to explain to the forum, how Barbados could challenge Trinidad’s constitution of behalf of Trinidadians?

    What would be Barbados’ legal arguments?

    Since you implied you’re versed in constitutional law, could you please refer the forum to cases similar in nature that were filed in any Court?

    You’ve also been arguing about the Trinis being allowed entry into Barbados would incur a cost at the expense to Bajan taxpayer.

    Let’s assume, for argument’s sake, Barbados could challenge TT constitution. Are you aware what legal expenses taxpayers would incur as a result of the Court case, including upkeep of the Trinis for the duration of the trial?

    Am I the only contributor that believe you’re making up things as you go, just to make things interesting?

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  • “Tourism is dead. Kaput. Fini. It’s pushing up daisies.”

    long may it STAY DEAD……there are many, many better ways to be founs…sin corruption…

    ……let the shite leaders use their few brain cells for a change, there are those willing to help them…FOR FREE…without all the yardfowlism…..and their hangerson.

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  • Northern April 2, 2020 1:48 PM

    @ac
    all one need know is….. if anything relates to the BLP or anyone you believe is associated with it, you criticize…..if anything relates to the DLP or anyone you believe is associated with it, you tow the line.

    here endeth today’s lesson.

    xxxccc_xccccccccv

    Ammm the dlp is not the captain of barbados ship so there is nothing wherby to critize the dlp
    Why u feeling sad or hurt by my criticism of present govt
    Do blame me cause present govt has given enough to be criticised

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  • Wait I hear what the acting PM say correct? 24 hour curfew including all supermarkets closed to the 14th. That is not a good move. No where in the world have people been blocked from accessing food from supermarkets!

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  • Look i done with the back and forth
    I have clearly stated what i belive barbados position should have been foremost
    I stand by my comments not gonna change previous or present comments

    Let’s assume, for argument’s sake, Barbados could challenge TT constitution. Are you aware what legal expenses taxpayers would incur as a result of the Court case, including upkeep of the Trinis for the duration of the trial?

    Artax
    There is no assumption the law is the law and laws can be challenged
    Laws which are written to be constituionally binding by law makers in govt should not be given a free pass under no circumstance or excuse
    Trinidad law like any other law which is binding and provides a right to its citizen cannot be changed because of a feeling or because of one circumstance or another
    Govt expense in seeking a privilege of right for a citizen should be of less importance than doing what is constituionally right for an individual

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  • @ John A

    Village shops are allowed to be opened, but are prohibited from selling alcoholic beverages.

    Grenada implemented a similar policy a few weeks ago..

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  • @ Miller April 2, 2020 12:44 PM

    Frankly, I’m not happy that predictions are coming true.

    However, Barbados must choose between the USA or China in the future. If we maintain the visa agreement with China, we risk catching an even deadlier virus in the future. It is possible that the virus has already landed on the island for the Chinese New Year.

    When the pandemic ends, the western states will hold a court of inquiry. We cannot then pretend that none of this concerns us. Our main market is Great Britain. We should therefore opt for the Western Medical Defence Alliance, a sort of medical NATO.

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  • Vincent Codrington

    @ John A at 2:05 PM

    Be careful what you asked for,because you may get it..
    I ,however, agree with you that closing the supermarkets is a bad move ;but that is where the social distance rules were being ignored. I saw that for myself yesterday. I think that it is too drastic a decision. Some may starve and it may lead to unrest. Lets see how it unfolds.

    Decisions can be reversed.

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  • Notice that the epicenter in New york is Queens where there is a large jewish community who are running away from the ravages and looking for a place of refuge

    Just observing

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  • @ Artax

    Our population is bigger than Grenada though and a large portion is in St Michael a dense parish. Also if we couldn’t control a curfew how will we manage a shut down? NO where in Europe or the USA were people denied access to food from supermarkets. Also how much inventory can a village shop carry?

    Till this I thought the government were handling this issue quite well, with this decision I now give them a F- if such a grade exist. One of the fundamental aspects of a peaceful society is access to food and water.

    Can you imagine the panic buying today and tomorrow now? How many will be infected as a result of this nonsensical decision which will lead to mass chaos.

    It would appear it is the government that is now in full panic mode and by extension taking the population with them.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    “Am I the only contributor that believe you’re making up things as you go, just to make things interesting”

    No you aren’t! His/her argument on the TnT issue was simply what the Blogmaster calls posting envy: the need to write something!

    The comments were devoid of reason or legal sense.

    What actual standing as you asked would Bdos have to take TnT to court on a constitutional dispute between a Trini and its own govt!

    Wouldn’t the CCJ dismiss such a case out of hand!

    Barbados could have easily sent the plane back to England and THERE the Brits could have surely sued TnT for all costs to keep the Trinis who were refused entry into their own nation…

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  • “From 6 p.m. on April 3, 2020 all government ministries, departments and statutory corporations will close until 6 a.m. on April 15, 2020. Only those public services designated as essential services will be open from 9 a.m. to 6 p.m. and only those employees deemed to be essential may go to the office. All other staff shall remain at home. The list of public services will be published by the Barbados Government Information Service.”

    This kind of lockdown does not affect us at all. Since public service is already in permanent lazy mode and now goes into lockdown, it doesn’t really matter. Zero remains zero with or without lockdown.

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  • two weeks?
    john a now you turning the fearmonger? man bajan can survive two week on what they got now or share from their neighbor if they run out. bake and saltfish and lemonade.
    now they have to use they skill and will start to appreciate growing their own food.

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  • @ Vincent

    The logistics of this has not been thought through. This is a government acting in fear and panic not a government showing control and common sense. Let’s examine the reality of this approach.

    How many whole chickens you think Massy Warrens have in stock at any one time? If you take the cumulative total of all the small shops in a 1 mile radius of Massy how much you would think they have?

    What portion of Massy sales are done by credit card or cheque? Can the small shops facilitate such sales? All this will now do is place a run on the ATMs island wide by those who have cash. For the majority who live pay cheque to pay cheque and get through on a credit card inbetween, well I guess they will now have to eat grass.

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  • How come barbados govt still accepting flights from hot spots like Miami.. london france..spain..and closer to home Antigua which landed a few moments ago
    Also of interest is a late night flight from miami into barbados when the country curfew is already in place

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  • still trying to figure this constitution thing.

    So it a usa citizen right to bare arms. ok
    so he come to Barbados and get a gun. he got legal right to carry it in Barbados?

    or it is a bajan constitution rights to join any union of their choice. can the Barbados government challenge the usa government on behalf of a bajan to alow the bajan to join a specific union?

    the bajan government cant challenge another country on behalf of a bajan whose (Barbados) constitutional rights are being trampled.
    But it can challenge another country (trini) because it is trampling the 35 trini in Barbados constitution rights

    SPOT ON !!

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  • @ John 2

    No look at the reality. Many people have lost their jobs or at home. Many small businesses have not been paid because their customers have closed as they were not in the approved list. As a result cash is in short supply with these people and the small shops work on cash only. How many small shops say in black rock you think it would take to handle the closure of Carlton supply wise? Answer is more than they have. All This is going to do is create panic and exposure to the same virus they are trying to avoid.

    We have a defence force why couldn’t we use them to ensure personal space is maintained outside the supermarkets? If that was done and the amount allowed inside limited all would of been well.

    The way this was handled is poor. We had a release last night from the acting PM saying supermarkets and drug stores will remain open and then less then 12 hours later all are to be closed for 14 days.

    Does the acting PM know that even before the virus many people could not buy a week’s groceries at a time? How will some of these said people without a job now therefore be able to buy 2 weeks of groceries?

    Sorry dem getting a big F- from me. In Venezuela they had open supermarkets and no food. Here we got full supermarkets and the doors close. End result is the same wunna blocking people’s access to food!

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  • Dribbler if u do not understand Constituional law u ought to remain silent instead of allowing your feelings to draw some kind of attention to your nonsensical criticism of my comments
    Bottom line i stated my comments on Constitutional grounds which gave barbados a right to challenge Trinidad crisis/ immigration policy of denying its citizens a right of entry
    A right given to them under Trinidad Constitution
    But u wanting to be heard chimes in with your two cents worth of noithingness to support people who might have never read Trinidad constitution
    Steupse

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  • The logistics of this has not been thought through. This is a government acting in fear and panic not a government showing control and common sense. Let’s examine the reality of this approach.

    How many whole chickens you think Massy Warrens have in stock at any one time? If you take the cumulative total of all the small shops in a 1 mile radius of Massy how much you would think they have?

    What portion of Massy sales are done by credit card or cheque? Can the small shops facilitate such sales? All this will now do is place a run on the ATMs island wide by those who have cash. For the majority who live pay cheque to pay cheque and get through on a credit card inbetween, well I guess they will now have to eat grass.

    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    MIA CARES

    WATCH MUH AND GIVE ME THE VOTE

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  • @John A

    We are operating in unprecedented times. The Prime Minster (ag) said the supermarket thing will be reviewed if and when required. We all canagree that supermarkets probably represent the biggest risk spot for covid 19 based on observations, based on Barbadians unwilling to stay the f*@K from the supermarket. Let us give the thing a chance to work. Eat some bakes and drink some swank, let us arrest the Rh virus!

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  • @ John A

    You got to be careful that under the guise of the pandemic you do not kill off small shops. The pandemic must not be used as a weapon in the battle for capitalism any more than it is. We already have a massive fiscal deficit on the public balance sheet. When this crisis is over, and it will, there will be a huge demand, and the drive will be for it to be funded by the public sector, as in Japan, the UK and the US. We must keep our eyes on the ball.
    By the way we hear a lot about the UWI mathematical model that government is working to. Why can’t they publish the model In the US and UK the models are public property. In the UK we have a dominant model from Imperial College, and a competing one from Oxford.; both are in the public domain.
    The president told us a similar story in her three-hour long waffle, about modelling for a fall in tourism; we are yet to see that model.
    But secret Barbados is different. Nonsense.
    It is easier to shout abuse than it is to discuss reality.

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