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Readers will recall that a raging topic in the public domain before and during the campaign for the May 2018 general election was the legal entitlement of the then Honourable Leader of the Opposition, now the Honourable Prime Minister, Ms Mia Mottley, to practise law in Barbados, since she did not possess the Legal Education Certificate (sic) awarded by the regional Council of Legal Education. It took the explanatory intervention of her father, Mr Elliott D Mottley [as he then was] and, I suppose, the result of the election itself, to quell further discussion of this matter. I recall that I wrote then that the decision to admit Ms Mottley to the local Bar was a decision of the High Court of Barbados and could be overturned only if there were a timeous appeal of the matter on a point of law.

Indeed, a recent decision of the Judicial Committee of Her Majesty’s Privy Council [JCPC], on appeal from the Eastern Caribbean Court of Appeal[Grenada], confirms that admission to the Bar is not merely a ceremonial occasion but, rather, in substance a legal decision that may result in a decision that is adverse to the applicant. This decision is Layne v Attorney General of Grenada, delivered by the Board on March 18, 2019.

Despite serving a sentence of imprisonment for murder, Mr Joseph Ewart Layne dreamt of becoming a lawyer. His first step was to secure an LL.B, which he duly completed with honours by correspondence from London University, Clearly bitten by the studying bug, he next proceeded to read for his Master’s in Laws from the same university. At some time, he also secured a Bachelor of Science (Accounting) from Oxford Brookes University in the UK with First Class Honours. Having served 26 years of the 40-year term imposed on him, Mr Layne then enrolled at the Hugh Wooding Law School in Trinidad & Tobago to pursue his professional training, leading to the Legal Education Certificate, now a sine qua non of admission to most of the regional Bars. It is worthy of note that being an LL.B graduate of a university other than the University of the West Indies, Mr Layne would first have had to pass an entrance examination comprising a number of subjects in order to be admitted to Hugh Wooding. He was duly awarded the Certificate of Legal Education in September 2013.

Thereafter, Mr Layne applied to be admitted to the Grenada Bar. The central issue was whether Mr Layne possessed the good character required by section 17 (1) of the Legal Profession Act 2011 of Grenada. This provides, where relevant-

17(1) Subject to the provisions of this Act, a person who makes an application to the Supreme Court, and satisfies the Supreme Court that he-

(a) Is of good character; and either

(i) holds the qualifications prescribed by law;………………………………………………………………………shall be eligible to be admitted by the Court to practise as an attorney-at-law in Grenada.

So far as the judge before whom the application was made, Price Findlay J., was concerned, good character was “The aggregate of moral qualities which belong to and distinguish an individual person, the general result of one’s distinguishing attributes. That moral pre-disposition or habit, or aggregate of ethical qualities which is believed to attach to a person on the strength of common opinion and report concerning him.”

With regard to lawyers, the “guardians of our fundamental freedoms”, they had to command the personal confidence of not only lay and professional clients but [that of] other members of the Bar and of judges”; and while there was no rule automatically barring someone who had been convicted of an offence from practising the law,” an applicant with the background of the appellant had to make an extraordinary showing of rehabilitation…” In her view, the test was whether there was “a potential risk to the public, or, more importantly, whether there will be damage to the reputation of the profession” The court, she stated, was “concerned with the maintenance of public confidence in the members of the profession.”

After re-emphasizing that while rehabilitation was important, it may not be possible to make a “show of rehabilitation in the face of past serious misconduct”, the judge had regard to Mr Layne’s youth at the time of the murders (he was only 25 years of age) but held that his leadership responsibilities demonstrated his maturity at that age.

Ultimately, she concluded that although the applicant was a man who had accomplished much, nevertheless, having reviewed the evidence and taking into account all the relevant considerations, and the authorities in other jurisdictions, she was constrained to refuse this application for admission.”

Mr Layne’s appeal to the Eastern Caribbean Court of appeal was given short shrift, the judges there applying the principle that an appellate court should be reluctant to interfere with the judge’s exercise of discretion (sic), and therefore limiting its decision to the question whether the exercise by the judge of her discretion was susceptible to review in an appellate court. The Court of Appeal concluded that there was no basis on which it could properly set aside the judge’s exercise of discretion in this case, and dismissed the appeal.

On further appeal to the Judicial Committee, their Lordships dismissed the appeal by a four to one majority. For those interested in reading the details of the Board’s respective reasoning, the judgment may be found at http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKPC/2019/11.html

For the younger readers, the murder to whose commission Mr Layne was found to be a party was no ordinary murder in the history of Grenada. It was the summary execution of the then leader of the country, Mr Maurice Bishop, and nine others in the aftermath of the schism in the New Jewel Movement that had seized power in Grenada in 1979. Indeed, if memory serves me correctly, Mr Layne, then deputy Minister of Defence was alleged to have played a significant role in the deaths.

The question begs asking, given that the events happened nearly forty years ago, that the killings were of a political nature under the belief that they were necessary for the preservation of the state, and Mr Layne’s subsequent impeccable behaviour and academic achievement, is this a man who is liable to be deservedly denied the respect of the populace, the judiciary, and his fellow members of the Bar? Or is the dismissal of his application merely a reflection of the horror still felt by Grenadians at the entire sorry episode so may years ago?

While I view the judgment of Price Findlay J to be unimpeachable, (she must have been well trained!), I incline more to the reasoning of Lord Kerr, the lone dissentient in the JCPC, who argued cogently that  “Reprehensible conduct in the past by a candidate for admission may provide an indicator as to her or his present character but it must not be allowed to operate as an automatic bar. In other words, simply because an individual has behaved badly in the past does not constitute an inevitable block on their admission to practice. Previous past conduct is material only to the extent that it bears on the evaluation of character made at the time of consideration of the application. And, however bad or shameful the past behaviour, the decision-maker must not approach his or her assessment on the basis that its effect can never be outweighed by the subsequent redemptive conduct of the applicant. Egregious behaviour in the past may present an applicant with a formidable hurdle; it should never be regarded as an automatically insuperable one”.

I am almost certain that some wag will contend that most lawyers are crooked or eventually become so anyway and, at least, Mr Layne’s misconduct is behind him.

 


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169 responses to “The Jefferson Cumberbatch Column – An Ineradicable Blot”


  1. But the president of the country that professed to be a beacon of light for human rights for all has abandoned that position. There has been a shift in thinking and not for the better.

    What happened before? Bad guys did bad things. What is happening now? Many more bad guys do many more bad things.


  2. @Piece of the rock, don’t you think Jeff Cumberbatch the teacher of law to lawyers would have a mind to bring his legal expertise to bear in circumstances as outlined by you? Can you not imagined Mr. Cumberbatch along with some of his students operating a legal clinic, even going to the CCJ to right some of the injustice? I know of a law professor, also an attorney in the USA who does similar. I believe his operation is called the “Innocent project.”

  3. Georgie Porgie Avatar

    re What happened before? Bad guys did bad things. What is happening now? Many more bad guys do many more bad things.

    WHY IS THIS?
    BECAUSE THE HEART OF MAN IS DECEITFUL AND DESPERATELY WICKED

    THE DEVIL DONT MAKE DEM DO IT AND TRUMP DO MAKE DEM DO IT

    IF I WRONG THEN THE BIBLE WRONG
    THIS IS WHAT IT SAYS

    ROMANS 3:11 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

    PSALM 14:3
    They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
    PSALM 53:3
    Every one of them is gone back: they are altogether become filthy; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

    What happened before? Bad guys did bad things. What is happening now? Many more bad guys do many more bad things.

    WHY IS THIS?
    2 Timothy 3:1-5 TEACHES CLEARLY

    1 But know this, that in the last days [a]perilous times will come:
    2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
    3 unloving, [b]unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good,
    4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,
    5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!

    THE DEVIL DONT MAKE DEM DO IT AND TRUMP DO MAKE DEM DO IT

    IF I WRONG THEN THE BIBLE WRONG


  4. @Sir Simple, it ain’t no body like you bajan black women now that you can go to the store and buy your own car and house. Here of late, you and your ilk have taken issue with us looking for a little pokey. Only not long ago when you had a bunch of children and was looking for some fools to take care of you and them, pokey was all you had to offer. I see many men bout here who don’t even have a pot to piss in, because they wasted their youth on you lot. Now you have the balls to talk shit. But it serves the men right, there is never a time that I’m not in the sun working on my property when the broiling sun says to me, thank god you don’t have to be now at the mercy of a bajan woman. These men spent all their lives in the hot sun and never listened to that voice. Damn fools dropped their women off at UWI, never thought to take a look inside now you simple simon and a pack of ungrateful rats making them smell hell.


  5. Donna
    April 2, 2019 9:57 AM

    By contrast, the phrase “far-right” is used to describe those who favor an absolutist government, which uses the power of the state to support the dominant ethnic group or religion and often to criminalize other ethnic groups or religions.[38][39][40][41][42]

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Quite the opposite.

    The further left you go the bigger the government you want … communism, fascism socialism.

    The further right means you want less and less interference from government.

    Trump seeks to shrink the Government and its regulations.

    That’s what makes him right … correct too!!

    The Democrats want to impose Government controlled healthcare for example and that’s what makes them leftist.

  6. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right Avatar
    Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right

    @ Whitehall

    You is a next one who want banning!

    Imagine! You here saying and I quote

    “…Can you not imagined Mr. Cumberbatch along with some of his students operating a legal clinic, even going to the CCJ to right some of the injustice?…”

    Now there is true anarchy!

    The Luminary has pronounced here his academic interests

    Surely what you are suggesting is a radical stance, one which I humbly suggest borders on sedition and beg that you be banned forthwith

    Imagine that, UWI STUDENTS INVOLVED IN REAL NATION BUILDING!

    That would bring such shame on the reputation of lawyers and possibly cause them to acquire morals

    Thou art to be banned forthwith


  7. One need only look at the Reformation to understand the difference between left and right.

    The Roman Catholic Church controlled everything,

    This is the extreme example of big government.

    But once the Bible became available to more and more people, the fallacies of the RC Church became apparent.

    Numerous dissenters and non conformists arose according to the individual understanding they received from the word.

    The Puritans are an example.

    The Quakers arise well after them.

    The right favours individual freedom.

    The left prefers absolute control by big government.


  8. No Johnny ma Boy,

    The far right is far more complicated than that. They are for individual rights and freedoms as long as they suit their agenda. Otherwise, not so much.

    Steupse!


  9. ” Don’t watch what they say! Watch what they do!”

  10. Barbados Underground Whistleblower Avatar
    Barbados Underground Whistleblower

    UWI lecturer says time to go after crime bosses

    If the Royal Barbados Police Force wants to arrest crime it needs to “cut off the head of the snake”, a University of the West Indies academic has suggested.

    But Dr Dwayne Devonish, a senior lecturer at the University of the West Indies at Cave Hill has suggested that these supposed crime lords that possibly included crooked police, lawyers and business owners run a underground criminal network.

    He said it’s time police stop running behind small criminals and turn their interest toward those at the top.

    He said if left untouched, those crime bosses would continue to influence young people to get involved in crime, as the gun and drug trades were proving to be very lucrative.

    “In terms of the attractiveness of crime, I must say that if you look at the amount of money and investment in criminal activity, especially when you look at the gun trade and the drug trade, even for someone who is underemployed… that amount of money, that particular opportunity is going to snatch that young person away,” Devonish said.

    The UWI lecturer appeared in a panel discussion on solutions to youth crime and violence in Barbados at the 3W’s Oval at Cave Hill last Friday.

    He maintained that there was an organised underground criminal world in Barbados that needed to be infiltrated.

    Devonish told the audience: “The only way we can deal with this crime situation is to not only attack from the bottom, but we have to look at the top.

    “I’m not fearful to say this but we have to look at from businessmen, police officers, lawyers; this thing is a money-making enterprise, it is not conspiracy, it is a deep underground business environment that we have.”

    “We can talk a lot about youth programming in communities and trying to get the youth to develop skills and so on, but until we address the head of the snake we will continue to have that problem where crime remains a lucrative and attractive opportunity for young people,” he said.

    Devonish added that with guns being sold for $10 000 and rented for up to $700, it was evident that there were significant returns from crime.

    Devonish praised Government for its efforts to pass legislation to confiscate the properties and monies from convicted criminals.

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2019/04/02/uwi-lecturer-says-time-to-go-after-crime-bosses/


  11. Is your name whitehill or shitehill?

    You need to deal with your issues!

    You may spew now.


  12. Who cares about muddled technical terms? Far right, far left, fascism, communism, whateverism all lead to schisms.

    Yup.

    Only idiots harp on about these differences in nomenclature. In reality there are no discernible differences.

    Ultimately, money controls everything in this world and all governments are beholden to the monied interests.

    I find this mainly comes from the hypocritical white American bible belt types.

    If anyone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen. 1 John 4:20 (ELT)

    And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’ Matthew 25:40 (ELT)


  13. Shall a snake cut off its own head?


  14. Attorney General Dale Marshall announces a gun amnesty and restrictions on bail for murderers. Details coming up in The Latest from Starcom Network News.


  15. In the addition to murder and serious firearm changes, the bail application change will be for people charged with treason and high treason

    Treason?

    @ Mr Cumberbatch

    Out of curiosity, do you know when someone was last charged for treason in Bdos?


  16. All the Bible says is what men will become. That does not deny that there are influences to which they succumb. I see no contradiction in saying that men will become something under certain influences. There is such a thing as influence. Good and bad. Some people succumb to bad influences (WHO shall remain nameless so you will not find bogus reasons to disagree).

    We know this to be true.

    And some surrender to good influences.

    The heart of man may be evil…. but some of them surrender their heart to God. And what happens then, GP?

    Do they not become God’s conduits?


  17. Again just shedding the disposable snake skin. Appearing to do something while doing nothing.

    Buzyness without getting down to business.

    There may be a temporary lull to fool us that something has been accomplished. The crime bosses are not foolish.


  18. Dullard,

    So you picked up on the treason bit as well? What is the reason for this, I wonder.


  19. @Donna, it matters not if white or shite…been called both. Take your pick, see if I care. It is ok for you nappy head fools to say all manner of evil about the bajan black man, now here is a bajan black man who don’t give a fuck. I know what I know.


  20. @ Dullard,

    The prime minister has already said criticism of the government threatens national security. So to say BERT will fail because it is ill thought out can be considered treason, in this form of corrupt logic. The prime minster is a seasoned politician and hardened lawyer, she knows what she is talking about. She has a plan.

  21. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar
    Jeff Cumberbatch

    Out of curiosity, do you know when someone was last charged for treason in Bdos?

    @ Dullard, Would that not have been Sidney Burnett-Alleyne? I know from defamation law that Neville Maxwell had accused Sir Henry and Sir Bernard of treason for representing Society for the Propagation of the Gospel in the Codrington College matter. That eventually led to his bankruptcy but in the case it was held by Douglas CJ that no one would have reasonably understood him to be referring to the capital offence!

  22. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    All the Bible says is what men will become.

    AND MEN HAVE BECOME ALL THAT THE BIBLE PREDICTED THAT THEY WOULD BECOME
    LOOK AT THE LIST BELOW

    DONT BLAME INFLUENCES
    EVERYONE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS OWN CHARACTER AND BEHAVIOUR AND DEEDS AND SINS

    YOU CANT TELL GOD AT THE GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGEMENT THAT DONALD MADE ME DO IT

    2 Timothy 3:1-5 TEACHES CLEARLY

    1 But know this, that in the last days [a]perilous times will come:
    2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
    3 unloving, [b]unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good,
    4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,
    5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!

    All the Bible says is what men will become AND THEY HAVE BECOME ACCORDING .TO ALL THAT THE BIBLE PREDICTED


  23. @Jeff

    Cheers!

    So in the entire post-independence history of Barbados one person has been charged with treason, right?


  24. Jeff Cumberbatch
    April 2, 2019 1:58 PM

    Out of curiosity, do you know when someone was last charged for treason in Bdos?
    @ Dullard, Would that not have been Sidney Burnett-Alleyne? I know from defamation law that Neville Maxwell had accused Sir Henry and Sir Bernard of treason for representing Society for the Propagation of the Gospel in the Codrington College matter. That eventually led to his bankruptcy but in the case it was held by Douglas CJ that no one would have reasonably understood him to be referring to the capital offence!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Who was the guy who got terminated in New York?

    Seem to remember it was a former speaker of the house … Maxwell was his surname.

    He pulled some stunt dropping leaflets from a plane I believe.

    Probably this Neville Maxwell.


  25. I seem to recall the visionary talking of folks being accused of treason and if my failing memory serves me correctly someone scoffed at the idea…..

    Add this to the 30-0 and we have to be impressed by the power of the foil.


  26. “Devonish added that with guns being sold for $10 000 and rented for up to $700, it was evident that there were significant returns from crime.”

    $10G…. Tempting….
    I found that price to be fantastic. Could it be the popo are keeping guns off the island???


  27. Dullard
    April 2, 2019 3:18 PM

    @Jeff
    Cheers!
    So in the entire post-independence history of Barbados one person has been charged with treason, right?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    We seem to agree Barbados has been destroyed in the post independence era.

    Who committed whatever treasonous acts that were necessary to ensure its downfall?


  28. Donna
    April 2, 2019 11:55 AM

    No Johnny ma Boy,
    The far right is far more complicated than that. They are for individual rights and freedoms as long as they suit their agenda

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    It really is extremely simple.

    WASPs founded America and Barbados.

    Simple fact.

    Both countries arise as a consequence of the religious persecution those early WASPs suffered.

    White and Christian are the bugbears of the left!!

    Their anger and invective always distills to these two factors.

    They are like Dracula … they just can’t stand the Light!!

  29. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right Avatar
    Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right

    Ecco the Target of the Treason Talk

    Indeed behold the very man who is now the target of this new law.

    Sk leg me tell wunna what dem have done

    Dey have gone to Go Fund Me and said all sorts oc spurious stuff about the Seditious Nature of the Fund

    So Go Fund Me stopped the payments

    Den dem reached out to the Department of Justicd to say de ole man is disrupting de stability of de cuntry.

    Whu I is even a gun runner now

    And dat I may be responsible for some of de killings too?

    Wunna people living in kiddie goat heaven with Mugabe and her despots

    This is why all of them coming here and talking nice and thing becausing de ole man ent to know de plans.

    BUT WHEN WUNNA SCVUNT DID *** AND *** de ole man understood clearly what was being done.

    So here be de deal.

    You are a five year government Mugabe.

    The day that i do not reset the date on my Outlooks “Do not deliver before check box..”. the excel file with your apportionment of the $236 million to Jose and Jose will be published

    There are 2 machines THERE WERE ALWAYS TWO MACHINES AND YOU ONLY SEE ONE DONT YOU?

    LET US SEE HOW WUNNA FVCKERS GOING DEAL WITH THAT SHY$E THEN.

    ALL A MAN WANTED WAS WHAT WAS MINE, BUT IT SHALL NEITHER BE MINE NOR THINE EITHER.

    TREASON DAT PRIMEWICKER!!!

    You are not only a

  30. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right Avatar
    Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right

    You ARE ONLY A FIVE YEAR GOVERNMENT!!!


  31. Piece said Mia Mugabe Muttley was drawing up a bill to charge Bajans with treason and sedition. Treason against whom, the Queen of England? Sedition against whom, incompetent government or the Queen? No gathering in 2020.

    By the way, the Prime Minister of Barbados is going to be in Montreal on April 7th for a Town Hall Meeting at Buffet Il Gabbianno, 1550 rue Laperriere, Ville laSalle. She doan need nuh more food. She sure travellling a lot.

  32. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    PIECE

    RE re Ecco the Target of the Treason Talk

    Indeed behold the very man who is now the target of this new law.

    Sk leg me tell wunna what dem have done

    Dey have gone to Go Fund Me and said all sorts oc spurious stuff about the Seditious Nature of the Fund

    So Go Fund Me stopped the payments

    Den dem reached out to the Department of Justicd to say de ole man is disrupting de stability of de cuntry.

    Whu I is even a gun runner now

    THEY DO THAT TO YOU PIECE AND YOU HAVE AN excel file with AN apportionment of the $236 million to Jose and Jose AND YOU TALKING BOUT PUBLISHING IT

    IS WHAT YOU WAITING FOR SIR?
    TIT FOR TAT

    SO THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT TO BE OPPOSED?
    YOU ARE TO LICK THEIR TAIL AND SUFFER AT THEIR HANDS AND BOW AT THEIR FEET?


  33. it might better to be paranoid and safe than be out there stupid..

    Dude, I hope you have enough sense not top go into an embassy. Khasoggi knew he was dealing with wicked men, but he had no real idea of how wicked they were. Was listening to a story that said many suffered the same fate as Khasoggi. He made the news.

    I remember when SVeronica was blogging. I was hoping that she had enough sense not to go back to Barbados. I do not know if she can go now.

  34. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right Avatar
    Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right

    Ooops that was a post for another site, much like Watchman hit the send button on Facebook and his post came onto Barbados Underground, that post about the US$236 for EDUTECH was for a book site where I am writing a fictional novel about a next lead character called Mugabe

    While on the topic of books WARU found an excellent one which I was intrigued about.

    It features us black bajans and I wondered why an attempt to use it and post pertinent material about our struggles was not being used instead oc that crap by the Doctor with the watered down black stories

    Thd book is called “…Chattel House Blues: Making a Democracy in Barbados: From Clement Payne to Owen Arthur

    $22.95by Hilary Beckles
    Chattel House Blues: Making a Democracy in Barbados:

    From Clement Payne to Owen Arthur is a book by Hilary Beckles (Hilary McD Beckles, 248pgs) released 2003-10…”

    There are no copies available in ghd Amazon store and Sir Hilary seems to be printing them jn Switzerland which, if that is true, seems at variance with home drums beat strongest…

  35. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right Avatar
    Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right

    Gentle folk, I am the Khalil Gibran of Barbados

    I shall never go back there again.

    Two governments have vowed to kill de ole man for what is mine.

    I cannot & WILL NOT go back there else I die (though, like all flesh, I too am appointed to die ONCE, AND THEN THE JUDGEMENT)

    Dr. GP my friend…there is a thing about evidence that Hollywood glamourizes

    People use it to get favours and $$.

    In my case I ent ask a feller for a ting, in fact, what I is saying is I have this thing copied and hash marked so keep you distance.

    Dem got dem ssh specialists and ting but dem cant see machine number 2 so dat has had dem bothered for months.

    But all the recent Third Party Movement talk has them disturbed

    Especially a recent action that is going to discredit their pretended authorship of things.

    Heheheh and dat got dem in a nettle cause dem telling people it is dem idea but de ole man showing otherwise

    And dat got dem vex.

    It is like this Dr. Dr. GP

    You is a surgeon and you come to me with the best technique for brain transference.

    I want to teif you idea so what I gine do.

    I gine try to discredit you, and den I gine gry to bankrupt you, den I gine try to lock you up, and den fire bomb you, but since you left de jurisdiction the best way for me to get you back is to extradite you on charges of treason.

    You understand me?

    So dem changing dem strategy for de courses so that The Third Party Movement must die.

    IT IS TOO POPULAR AND POWERFUL

  36. Barbados Underground Whistleblower Avatar
    Barbados Underground Whistleblower

    “Devonish added that with guns being sold for $10 000 and rented for up to $700, it was evident that there were significant returns from crime.”
    $10G…. Tempting….
    I found that price to be fantastic. Could it be the popo are keeping guns off the island???
    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    For those of you still living in the DARK, the popo are also involved in the lucrative trade of selling guns locally among other criminal activity.

  37. SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife Avatar
    SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    IT WOULD BE NICE IF THE BIBLE ILLITERATE GEORGIE PORGIE WOULD NOT SPEW FALSE TEACHING ABOUT THE WORD OF GOD IN PUBLIC


  38. @Whistleblower, I’m sure you’ve noticed that no one here is running with what this lecturer Devonish or what you’re presenting. Everyone wants to talk a pile of bullshit except what’s coming from the elephants in the room.


  39. Piece, please check the GoFundMe again. By the way, Gibran did go back to Lebanon. He was buried there under his beloved cedars, after he died of TB in Boston/Cambridgte. I used to give The Prophet as Christmas and birthday gifts for years.

  40. SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife Avatar
    SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @whiteHill April 2, 2019 11:29 AM

    Oh dear! What I do to deserve that stinking cursing.

    I’ve always worked for myself, from my youth to my old age.

  41. SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife Avatar
    SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    1 John 4:20

    “If anyone says, “I love God,” but hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen.”


  42. @SirSimple, is that all? Been looking for you all day.


  43. Whitehill, you are hilarious. You like to taunt. Now that you eating white meat, you arrived and now the black ladies are natty headed and man abusers/users. So the tables turn pun all yuh. Women are now educated and independent, with dildos and other women out there to rub up with, men no longer feel entitled, neither black nor white. Boy o’boy.

  44. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right Avatar
    Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right

    @ Dame Bajans

    I did.

    I will clean up the “notices” and post them here tomorrow to show you how it was done.

    Actually it was quite smart really but the thing about being smart and spiteful what ig does is that ig gives people evidence of your vindictiveness

    And after a while ALL THE EVIDENCE BEING SHOWN TO READERS, becomes something that they cannot disprove

    I am going to send a picture here as well just to let people see the nature of the beast

    But all of this persecution and spiteful ness is par for the course.

    I was thinking that it was going to happen Friday last week but it was paused because I was advised to ***

    That confused them, they dont understand why ***, but they will.

    What I want you to do is when *** happens I want you to confirm ig here for the readers.

    I dont know you from Sam Poochie so when you say that I told the truth then others will start to fear the words I am saying


  45. Dame Bajan, LOL


  46. Love my nappy head. Wear it natural! Did your mother have a nappy head? Seems like something or someone has messed you up, Whiteshitehill.


  47. Poor Johnnie! You really are locked in your schisms jail!

    GP, I never said they can use Trump or anybody else as an excuse. I said they succumb to bad influences. THEY succumb. That does not mean that bad influences do not exist and have an effect. People can and have used their powers of persuasion for good as well as evil. Happens every day. We know this. Your tactic of arguing a point I never made is getting tired now.


  48. What Devonish has said has been said here many times. My comment was, “Shall a snake cut off its own head?”

    No need to elaborate.

    Still waiting on Jeff to define treason for me.

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