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The expression used at caption has found its way into the local vernacular to describe not merely the repetition of a number or series of numbers in the dividend such as when 1/3 or 1/7 is converted to decimal form but, less accurately, the too frequent re-emergence of a person or issue. Concerning the latter, I have remarked in this space on more occasions than a few, on the apparent local propensity to raise and re-circulate some matters of public discourse without ever coming to a definitive resolution of them one way or another. As a columnist, I am certainly not complaining since it provides some ready weekly fodder, but it is scarcely effective.

The list is indeed a long one -the policy of the imposition of the death penalty; the decriminalization of homosexual acts between consenting adults; the reform of our defamation laws; the establishment of a freedom of information culture and a condign statute; improved regulation of the privately owned public transportation sector; public and private sector integrity; a Contractor-General; the modern relevance of an Upper House of Parliament; and, finally, today’s topic, the inutility of the common entrance exam, more popularly known as the Eleven-plus or, even more officially and loftily, as the Barbados Secondary School Entrance Examination [BSEE].

Truth to tell, this issue is not as yet entered firmly into the current national discourse, but I read a newspaper report last week, in which my Cave Hill Campus colleague, Professor Joel Warrican, Director of the School of Education, lists this examination first among those conditions that “inhibit the fight of our young citizens to strengthen the resilience of the regional citizenry”. In the report, Professor Warrican appears to be more concerned with the “large proportion of students who do not meet the expected standards and the consequent stratification of the secondary school system created by the manner in which the results of the Common Entrance Examination are used to allocate students to schools, leading to “the marginalization of students who are allocated to ‘bad’ (sic) schools”.

I suppose that the first question that would be asked of the professor is the basis on which a school is to be assessed as “bad”, an adjective that is scarcely ever heard in popular local parlance. I am prepared to concede, however, that there exists in that argot the notion of “good” schools, so it seems conceivable that there must also be, comparatively, some not-so-good and even some bad ones, although it is unclear on what basis these designations are to be made.

As one who believes, errantly or otherwise, that I owe the nature of my current existence largely to my result in the Common Entrance Examination in the late 1960’s, I am naturally inclined to the view that it is the fairest system of transferring youngsters to secondary school, especially given the horror stories recounted of what obtained before, where it was not unknown for some to pass the examination only to fail the subsequent “interview” that was totally unrelated to the child’s academic prowess, but merely to his or her social standing and material comforts. Given my condition at eleven, it is at least doubtful whether I could have passed the interview component, never mind my performance in the academic aspect, hence the existence of my current bias.

Of course, one supposes that the nature and content of the examination itself could be adjusted; for instance, transfer from primary to secondary school might be effected at a later age and the element of continuous assessment by coursework constituting one aspect of the final mark, as now obtains in the regional secondary schools and UWI examinations clearly has a role to play. Concomitantly, the question begs asking, is assessment on the basis of prowess in English language and mathematics only a useful indicator of ability to cope academically at the secondary level?

The truth remains however, that the concept of examination remains the most common mode of determining progress at most levels of education. The first year student in the Bachelor of Laws programme at UWI cannot progress to the second year without having achieved success by examination in a sufficient number of his or her Part One courses, similarly to progress to the third year, and to the first and second years at Law School respectively. One would also have to pass examinations to become a certified butcher, baker or candlestick maker, so the notion of progress by examination is not inherently noisome.

The true problem with the BSEE is not the examination itself, rather it is what populism makes of it. The students who gain top placement in the BSEE are more lauded and feted initially and for a longer period by a fawning press than those who acquire terminal degrees in subjects of national development value. They inevitably become the darlings of their teachers and the parents bask vicariously in the achievement of their offspring, at least until a new cadre replaces the “top ten” the following year.

There is, strangely enough, no similar press follow-up for the BSEE high achiever unless she or she goes on to be a success otherwise. Indeed, the examination itself is made into a national spectacle with televised and newspaper interviews and parents and their young charges after the event, gifts of examination materials, complete with the obligatory news coverage by the ubiquitous politician; and special events put on by local restaurants for those who can afford it. And the outcomes of the BSEE persevere well into adulthood here where many individuals are often described by reference to their secondary school rather than to their tertiary affiliation.

In any ensuing public discourse on this matter, the onus is clearly on those who would seek to replace the BSEE with another form of transfer to propose it and to justify its existence in what is claimed to be a meritocratic polity. Given the current state of affairs, any system that is less objective than an examination arguably runs the risk of being categorized as discriminatory to some among us as the pernicious old “interview”


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411 responses to “The Jeff Cumberbatch Column – A Recurring Decimal”


  1. Yes you will be conveniently confused
    You choose to see and hear what u belive is politically expedient to your narrative
    Be that as it may i do not have a short memory to events going as far back as 2008 when BU was relentless in negative articles as to govt performance even though world wide economic events had clearly placed many negative obstacles in govt being unable to give optium performance
    But as i say today the playfield on BU is a lot top heavy and overloaded with wishy washy articles to remove any bombardment of negative comments against govt handling of the economy


  2. Artar

    You know very little about the education system in America, so please focus on what you know …


  3. The trick is rolling back the mind wash and healing those DAMAGED and MENTALLY ENSLAVED black minds….which is now ALL SELF INFLICTED.

  4. sirfuzzy (i was a sheep some years ago; not a sheep anymore) Avatar
    sirfuzzy (i was a sheep some years ago; not a sheep anymore)

    (quote) Have ever lived amongst someone who have attended Harrison College, Queen’s College, Lodge, St. Michael or Combermere? Those people are treated like Royalty in Barbados …(quote)

    Maybe treated like royalty by some; but not by all, there is a huge part of the population that hate their guts as well. There is always two sides of the coin, unless u not trading in legal tender. lol

  5. sirfuzzy (i was a sheep some years ago; not a sheep anymore) Avatar
    sirfuzzy (i was a sheep some years ago; not a sheep anymore)

    Have ever lived amongst someone who have attended Harrison College, Queen’s College, Lodge, St. Michael or Combermere? Those people are treated like Royalty in Barbados

    Those who may have attended HC certainly dont see QC or Cawmere or SMS or Lodge as royalty. lol


  6. “but ignore “zoning” in America and the UK and its impacts. ”

    Population of US…= 325. something or the other…MILLION PEOPLE

    Area of US…= 3.797 million mi²….that is square miles

    population of UK ..= 66.02 MILLION PEOPLE

    Area of UK..=…93,628 mi²…that is square miles..

    population of Barbados ..= 285,719….THOUSAND people

    area of Barbados ..=..166.4 mi²….that is square miles..

    it is about demographics..as I told you last week…why do you keep mixing apples and oranges..

    Barbados is a dot, many always have to be reminded..


  7. @ Lexicon,

    Is it anything to do with who makes the selection? That is one reason why Indian economists are protesting about the number of Americans (or people working in US universities, many of them Jewish) who almost automatically get a Nobel Prize for economics.


  8. WARU

    You speak of your academic acheivements when you have completed tertiary education and not a secondary education … in America most companies won’t even look at you if you don’t have that piece of paper from an University and an credited one at that…


  9. “……neither Combermere nor Harrison schools should still have those blighted names…but that is dumb, backward, miseducated black leaders for ya….”

    Hmmmm….

    So, the leaders are dumb, backward and miseducated for doing what……..leaving the names of those schools?

    But yet, you feel proud to “say” you and your relatives went to Yale, Princeton and other “ivy league” universities that frowned upon black people. Being black …..are you and yours also not proud to be idiots?

    If we were to rename them “University of Waterford” and “ “Roebuck University,” would that improve the quality of education?

    The “repulsive and DEPRAVED SLAVE OWNERS” named many places in Barbados. What should be do, rename Broad Street………… or don’t shop there?


  10. Accredited


  11. @ SirFuzzy,

    Let us go back to publishing the CXC/GCE exam results of individual school. Here is a decision for Santia/Mia. Why the secrecy?


  12. Artax

    A lot of Black people in this day and age have professorships at these ivy league universities …so what are you talking about?


  13. “Artar: You know very little about the education system in America, so please focus on what you know …”

    Mr. Lexicon

    It’s clear that you’re an idiot!!!

    Where in my contributions I mentioned anything about the American education system?

    What you should do is READ each contribution THOROUGHLY until you understand what was written………IDENTIFY who wrote what and DIRECT your responses to the respective contributors accordingly.


  14. Artax

    Several years ago a Ghanaian kid received a perfect score on the SATs, and all the Ivy League schools he applied to wanted him … these Ivy League schools look for the best and brightest irrespective if race , colour or creed …

  15. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @Jeff & @Artaxerxes
    Allocation secondary school places by geographic catchment area is the most widespread non-exam methodology for deciding which child goes to which school. It has been proven that it can work well in many different contexts around the world.

    As a graduate of Harrison College I wholeheartedly endorse the recommendation that the school “open its doors to children living in the surrounding environs of Roebuck Street, Country Road, Greenfields and other areas in the city.”

    Likewise those children who live in the bourgeois neighborhood where I grew up, Grand View, Edghill Heights & Valley View, should be going to school at Lester Vaughn Memorial Secondary.

  16. sirfuzzy (i was a sheep some years ago; not a sheep anymore) Avatar
    sirfuzzy (i was a sheep some years ago; not a sheep anymore)

    Hal Austin January 13, 2019 11:22 AM

    @ SirFuzzy,

    Let us go back to publishing the CXC/GCE exam results of individual school. Here is a decision for Santia/Mia. Why the secrecy?

    You guess is as good as mine. I would like them to publish the formula for the fuel prices, but no one thinks that data or information is need to educate the mis-educated.

    maybe it just another brick in the wall, – cuzz we dont need no education, we dont need no though control. the desks are chasms in the classroom,. (pink floyd)

    just singing along


  17. Artax

    You mentioned zoning in America and the UK…didn’t you?

  18. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @Vincent, I am not an educator and never taught beyond some English tutoring so I am no expert offering up grand knowledge and experience …but…

    1.Yes the general verdict in Bim has been that coed schools has been a bane to boys because as u suggest some reporting has measured better results for boys at their single sex schools
    2.@Hal reflects on similar issues reported in England

    Ok let’s accept that pubescent boys are best left to play cricket form matches or kicks n bites ‘soccer’ during lunch and basically be their vibrant boyish self and leave the preening to catch the eye of the lovely lasses for the bus stand or walk home or even some much later stage.

    But is 2000s the same as the 1960s or 70s where women were relegated to more home roles or not as pervasive in senior management across all sectors? Absolutely not.

    The single sex school debate is hinged on a patriarchal concept which strangely hangs on to the belief than boys must be allowed to establish their dominabce at their own pace and schedule… I dont get that.

    If we are good then we MUST engage with females on their turf at every age and beat them or at least compete strongly. The reality is that women are no longer just at home or subordinate and are strongly extolling their ascendancy and nothing will stop that.

    The old boys school has a nice familiarity to it…for those over 55 but for the modern generation it is a very flawed argument!


  19. @Jeff

    Now that you mention it, the comment was a clumsy one.


  20. I agree with lexicon Women have a better chance of getting a darwin award than a nobel prize

  21. Vincent Codrington Avatar
    Vincent Codrington

    @ Lexicon

    In the final analysis, It does not really matter what school you attended, what class you came from. What you have learnt and how you apply your skills in your professional and interpersonal life are paramount. It is not where you started ; It is where you ended.


  22. Mr. Lexicon

    NO!!!!

    I DID NOT MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT ZONING IN AMERICA!!!

    It was Enuff……NOT me!!

    I encourage you to PLEASE read each contribution thoroughly before attributing comments to those who have NOT made them.


  23. Artax

    Firstly, when you are speak of education in America on primary and secondary level, you cannot do so unilaterally …because on both of these levels the systems are fragmented

  24. sirfuzzy (i was a sheep some years ago; not a sheep anymore) Avatar
    sirfuzzy (i was a sheep some years ago; not a sheep anymore)

    Vincent Codrington January 13, 2019 11:40 AM

    @ Lexicon

    In the final analysis, It does not really matter what school you attended, what class you came from. What you have learnt and how you apply your skills in your professional and interpersonal life are paramount. It is not where you started ; It is where you ended.

    All u have said would be truer in a fair and balanced ethical world. That world may be located in Hope.

    However today that does not always apply, a few will survive by being aboe board, but htose are the really strong ones.

    Just saying


  25. i attended Cawmere just prior to it becoming integrated and i saw the change. Boys no longer wanted to kick ball from the small field to the big field, play cricket at every break or talk man stuff to the male teachers. they became fascinated and intimidated and behave stupidly in the presence of girls who were often more more mature than them at at the same age. i was lucky to only encounter girls in 6 form (around 16) when i was a bit more mature to handle their presence without a lot of hormonal distraction. the Beast (Mr Gittens) used to preach to us how a man should behave and how he should treat a woman. after all – woman, without her, man is a beast as oppose to- woman, without her man, is a beast.

    Cawmere for me was a great school. i didnt have to deal with being poor as no one pretended to be rich. we regarded each other as the same- cawmerians. and if a fella wanted to a scholar he studied hard, if he wanted to be a cricketer he played a lot of cricket, if he wanted to be a musician he played in the band and studied music and if he wanted to be a comedian/actor he was in the dramatic society. you were free to be a boy and come of age. there was no discrimination, no isolation at Cawmere. there were Xians and non Xians. serious scholars and real jokers. nerdy/ weird types and sportmen.

    i liked that and believe that is what school should be about- finding yourself in this world with a bit of guidance. we argued a lot at school especially in 6 form and that is where i honed my skills to see matters from different sides. to win or present a good case one had to research and understand the topic

    i was about average at school but when i got to university i excelled in my submissions. i credit Combermere for that. i believe girls brought a different dimension to the school and not for the good. Please make Cawmere all male again

  26. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    De ole man busy nowadays with tings dem.

    So not much time for BU.

    But there are two things that I’d like to say

    @ ManyPosers

    You said and I quote.

    “…Yesterday i posted a comment to effect that BU website might have been sold to a high ranking blp official
    The more of these wishy washy articles i read with an intent to point negative comments away from this govt the more i am beginning to believe that BU controlled mechansim is being rebuilt and reconstructed by blp political hands…”

    Yours is a logical fear AND MAY BE TRUE!!

    If so what does it mean?

    It means that Mugabe has bought out the final Voice of Social Dissent in Barbados AND THAT THE BORG HAD A PRICE.

    TZHAT IS WHAT IT MEANS ON THE SURFACE ALONE.

    But what does it really mean?

    Let me explain using an example that readers here can easily identify with.

    To the Luminary Jeff Cumberbatch I beg your temporary indulgence as I make this point.

    For me to make the point using the BU BORG as an example WOULD NOT BE AS IMPACTFUL.

    Since complicity at the level of The BORG is anticipated rather it is the logical conclusion for a Despot like Mugabe Mottley

    But at the level of Jeff Cumberbatch what does this hypothetical present?

    T Inniss makes a very salient point as go the seeming vacuous meanjnglessness of these topics.

    The 11 plus exam, what is its import?

    The point made about zoning is so archaically disconnected WHEN, GIVEN THE US $236 MILLION WASTE FOOP OF MUGABE’ S EDUTECH, A SIMPLE INTERACTIVE WHITEBOARD WOULD SIMPLIFY ALL THIS SHY$E TALK ABOUT GOOD &BAD SCHOOLS.

    Wunna understands de ole man?

    This, in the context of all the EDUTECH technology that we and our grandchildren are indebted for SEEMS A FICKLE DISCOURSE

    Simply put, the inept curriculum that is being taught at Harsun College, and which is breeding dutiful teifing Ministers like Pofnvilld Inniss and pooch lickers like David Come Sing a Song from Hunky Corner, can, WITH THE UPGRADE OF THE EDUTECH RAPE BY MUGABE MOTTLEY, provide totally connected schools, where what is taught by Tank at Harsun College WILL BE TAUGHT AT ST MARGRETS AND ST LUCY’S SECONDARY.

    So, back to the main point here of dumbed down articles which, while they provide some new vocabulary, do nothing as it related to the more important issues that beseige this totalitarian state.

    So now, retracting that hypothetical posit about BU selling out, rather the LUMINARY Jeff Cumberbatch selling out, my question to the Luminary is moreso to ascertain what options are available to Bajans, in the unlikely? event that we are being placed in an anarchy, is there any legal recourse that you can advise us all about?

    Notwithstanding the import and impact of this 11+ issue of dire import…


  27. I will assume that either the Professor (Warrican) is not Bajan born or he is not afraid of “mashing” some corns. I have said that the CEE is the third rail of Barbados Education touch it and you may not survive. Jeff alluded to the social aspects of success in the CEE and the penchant for the local newspaper to mention that Mr./MS X attended Y Secondary school no matter what education facility they attended after leaving that school. Even now when I meet a new acquaintance who was born in Barbados after the initial glad-handing the inevitable question arises “Wey you went to school?” and I know exactly what the person means, it has nothing to do with any education in the country where I reside but which school I attended during my formative years.

    The island just celebrated 50 years of Independence and If we are going to continue with a system that has its origin in our colonial history, we must realize that it comes with inherent biases, warts and all and the cream doesn’t necessarily rise to the top. Many of us would have “failed” the interview portion that existed prior, and I always say “there for the grace of God go I”.
    We cling to “knighthoods” and other relics, this is just one more thing.


  28. There are no mandated standardized tests in Finland, apart from one exam at the end of students’ senior year in high school. There are no rankings, no comparisons or competition between students, schools or regions. Finland’s schools are publicly funded. The people in the government agencies running them, from national officials to local authorities, are educators, not business people, military leaders or career politicians. Every school has the same national goals and draws from the same pool of university-trained educators. The result is that a Finnish child has a good shot at getting the same quality education no matter whether he or she lives in a rural village or a university town. The differences between weakest and strongest students are the smallest in the world, according to the most recent survey by the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD). “Equality is the most important word in Finnish education. All political parties on the right and left agree on this,” said Olli Luukkainen, president of Finland’s powerful teachers union.
    Read more: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/why-are-finlands-schools-successful-49859555/#Tg6pQ0VlLUJ6LJmZ.99


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  30. Ms Mariposa

    Your ORIGINAL comment was about you believing BU was BOUGHT by a high ranking BLP official.

    My response to your claim was, in short, the “high ranking BLP official” probably bought it from a former “high ranking” DLP official…….

    ……….because prior to the May 24, 2018 elections, the same David you’re cussing today…. DID NOT PREVENT you from EXPRESSING your anti BLP and pro DLP political diatribe.

    How could any sane individual interpret the above to mean I made an assumption about David Thompson’s era? Now you have gone off on a tantrum making comments that are totally irrelevant to what I wrote.

    Surely you must agree that, under these circumstances, your comment re “You choose to see and hear what u believe is politically expedient to your narrative,” is definitely applicable to you.

    But this article is about education and the 11+……

    …………do you have anything worthwhile to contribute to the “discussion?”

  31. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ the Honourable Blogmaster your assistance please with an item here that hopefully will not get the LUMINARY Jeff Cumberbatch vex as it will get the other 2/3 ‘s of you

    We need to up our game


  32. I am still waiting for an answer to the good Prof Warrican’s claim in Barbados Today that Cyril Burt created the 11+. I am also keen to know how we selected primary c
    school kids to go to our ‘prestigious’ secondary schools before the 11+ was introduced.


  33. Mr. Lexicon

    YOU ARE BECOMING A NUISANCE.

    Please!!!!

    FOR THE LAST TIME…….I DID NOT MAKE ANY REFERENCE TO THE AMERICAN EDUCATION SYSTEM.

    Stop using me to let BU know, that similarly how you’re an expert on the US justice system…….. you’re also an expert on the USA education system.

  34. sirfuzzy (i was a sheep some years ago; not a sheep anymore) Avatar
    sirfuzzy (i was a sheep some years ago; not a sheep anymore)

    (quote) Cawmere for me was a great school. i didnt have to deal with being poor as no one pretended to be rich. we regarded each other as the same- cawmerians. and if a fella wanted to a scholar he studied hard, if he wanted to be a cricketer he played a lot of cricket, if he wanted to be a musician he played in the band and studied music and if he wanted to be a comedian/actor he was in the dramatic society. you were free to be a boy and come of age. there was no discrimination, no isolation at Cawmere (quote)

    I was once told that i will only be truly able to see and feel and experience the world trhu my own eyes and my living. What u maybe be explaining is the status-quo of the that era. Co-education is a 1980’s thing. We have had 40 plus years of this and the whole society has been transformed by it. It will be very hard to put the cat back into the bag. Even if we did it would be another 40 years before it may return to what you experienced when u were a teenager.

    With the rate of technology change plus greed and marketing tricks that has been unleashed and awaits to be unleashed it will be hard to recapture that type of society we had then.

    Just think about it; some are predicting end of the ICE power vehicle; with the rise of the EV. If you live long enuff u may be welcoming in the “electrification of transportation in Barbados” and there will be no going backward unless u select the reverse gear.
    From what i have read EV have two gears forward or reverse. No five and four forward selection to choose from.

  35. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @PLT, you are allowing your biases – whether about class or colour and likely both – to overpower the realities that being “a graduate of Harrison College” gave you.

    Surely you have not worked through any long term scenarios or models to support “the recommendation that the school “open its doors to children living in the surrounding environs of Roebuck Street, Country Road, Greenfields and other areas in the city.”.

    As Dean Jeff asked in his piece “those who would seek to replace the BSEE with another form of transfer to propose it and to justify its existence in what is claimed to be a meritocratic polity.”

    Please enlighten how your approach would improve the education you received at HC? Or said otherwise how would you have been educated today were you transferred as you propose? Where would you have gone based on current zoning? And how do you perceive you would have fared? Would you have been better ‘educated’?

    I readily accept that automatically several schools would improve because of ‘aggressive PTA parents but that will go so far.


  36. ” The result is that a Finnish child has a good shot at getting the same quality education no matter whether he or she lives in a rural village or a university town. ”

    every child is EQUAL..


  37. @ Pedantic,

    Many thanks. @PLT often makes a lot of unsupported claims. All children are not academically inclined; some children are late developers; some children are creative; some are good at sport; some have a bias to the humanities; some to STEM. We need to test (assess) children to know what their early bias is. What we do know is that in their teens their brains are still developing. Over a life time many of us change careers many times.


  38. In 1981 I was asked to finalise a ” Zoning ” map for the Minister of Education. I did it at home on a weekend to ensure “confidentiality”.

    It was a very good concept that would ensure that children went to Secondary school as close as reasonable to where they lived.

    At that time there was a World Bank Schools project that included upgrading C P and Alleyne school.

    That was 38 years ago.


  39. “But yet, you feel proud to “say” you and your relatives went to Yale, Princeton and other “ivy league” universities that frowned upon black people. Being black”

    Do some research…not only did BLACK PEOPLE FUND many of those Ivy League schools…BUT THEY DONATED the land THAT MANY OF THOSE SCHOOLS STAND ON…so there is A LOT. TO BE PROUD OF…

    Besides…those are NOT THE NAMES OF THE SCHOOLS I CALLED…do not make yaself look foolish..do your RESEARCH…BEFORE jumping out to CONTRADICT..

    AND…the slave owners names…are being REMOVED FROM THOSE INSTITUTIONS…as they should…..

    ….AND the STATUES of blighted SLAVE OWNERS…are being PULLED DOWN and put in museums…even the demon Cecil RHODES..of Rhodes scholarship fame..ALSO had his name REMOVED…


  40. How quickly it has been forgotten the brouhaha ONLY LAST YEAR about SLAVEOWNERS names still on the plaques of learning institutions, slave one statues still blighting the American landscape..

    …..it is a blight and only backward, dumb, miseducated leaders would still allow such in this here 21st century…while claiming to be the most (mis)…educated people in the Caribbean, if not the world..

  41. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @DPD
    I have never concealed my bias… it is in favor of social equality to counter the historical stain on our society that is the legacy of chattel slavery.

    We cannot fix education in Barbados by ignoring the deeper social dysfunctions. That is why I utterly reject Jeff’s criteria that I must “justify [changes] in what is claimed to be a meritocratic polity.” The so called “meritocratic polity” is a sham and a fraud that is just a coded way of reinscribing the status quo.

    We instead need to fix the Barbados education system and justify the changes in an unashamedly DEMOCRATIC polity. The Finns achieve one of the best education systems in the world while at the same time “differences between weakest and strongest students are the smallest in the world…”

    Equality of opportunity is achieved by the Finnish system at the same time that quality surpasses most systems by a considerable margin. Equality is the handmaiden of quality, not its antithesis.

  42. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    I am totally surprised by the comments of the Old David of BU and DpD with regard to this article knowing their levels of ICT competencies and their fixation and deference to this non issue by the Luminary Jeff

    No one uses fire signals anymore to signal the coming of the invaders.

    Virtualization of our archaic curriculum automatically makes 75% of this moot meaningless

    Wunna are deferring to the Dean on a moot point regarding this 11+ issue.

    De University of the West Indies I’d effecting distance classes @today

    Move on! Please as Tank used to say.

    Up de volume and stop dumbing down our discourse.

    This topic is below the scholarship of the Luminary and if wunna is afraid to tell him so, T. Inniss is not.

    But then again, the Dean has posited that the 11+ is static, AND FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE IT NEEDS TO CHANGE.

    DE OLE MAN in hindsight HAS SAID THAT OUR SCHOLAR is correct.

    And that a momentous change would be to effectively change the Edutech waste foop

    I however am made to wonder about this topic of the Recurring Decimal based on what T Inniss has said.

    But it is early in Mugabe’s regime and we will see…


  43. Please do you research BEFORE tying to ONEUP other bloggers…

    “By the reckoning of John Riley, the historian at Mount Vernon, there are about 450 schools in the United States named for George Washington.

    Now there is one fewer. Following a policy that prohibits school names honoring ”former slave owners or others who did not respect equal opportunity for all,” the Orleans Parish School Board voted unanimously on Oct. 27 to change the name of George Washington Elementary to Dr. Charles Richard Drew Elementary.

    The new name pays tribute to a black surgeon who lived from 1904 to 1950 and is known for developing methods to preserve blood plasma and for protesting the United States Army’s practice of segregating donated blood by race.

    The renaming of the 74-year-old school in the city’s Bywater neighborhood, the 22d name change in New Orleans in five years, is the latest milestone in a concerted effort by blacks across the South to assert their vision of a biracial history that has traditionally been defined only by whites.

    Since the school board’s policy was adopted in December 1992, New Orleans schools have purged the names of Confederate generals, slave-owning governors and even the black founder of an orphanage who, like Washington, happened to own slaves. A school once named for Robert E. Lee, for instance, is now named for Ronald McNair, the black astronaut killed in the explosion of the space shuttle Challenger in 1986.

    But never before, either here or apparently elsewhere in the country, has a school shed the name of a figure as central to the national identity as Washington. And that has raised questions about whether efforts to broaden history, if taken too far, may sometimes distort it as well.

    Opponents of the decision, and there have not been many in this city in which blacks are in the majority, argue that it does not account for the totality of Washington’s achievements or the mores of his times. But in a school district where 91 percent of the students are black, and where the school board is controlled by a 5-to-2 black majority, the decision underscores the maxim that history is written by those with the power.

    ”Why should African-Americans want their kids to pay respect or pay homage to someone who enslaved their ancestors?” asked Carl Galmon, a longtime civil rights leader in New Orleans who has led the campaign to change school names. ”This was the most degrading thing that ever happened in North America, and Washington was a part of it. To African-Americans, George Washington has about as much meaning as David Duke.”


  44. Only dumb, backward, uneducated leaders would see NOTHING WRONG… with keeping SLAVE OWNER’S NAMES..on 2 MAJORITY BLACK SCHOOLS…in a MAJORITY BLACK COUNTRY..

    ya really can’t make any of this up..but don’t mind me…am “crazy AND unstable.”..as diagnosed by BU doctors..lol


  45. @PLT

    Social equality is a political objective, which is at least honest. The Barbados educational system does need serious reforms, but a geographical catchment area is not it.
    Even in co-ed comprehensive schools there is selection. From selection for the school choir, to selection for the art classes. Social equality is best achieved through equality of opportunity, but equality of outcomes.
    Our real problem is that Barbados needs to be a more open society, Why is it for decades that Harrison College performs better than Parkinson? Is it because of resources? The quality of staff? The quality of input students?
    We need to seriously analyse these causes if we are going to improve. As things stand in Barbados, the middle classes and decision-makers provide private tutorials for their children so they do not really care about the public educational system. Real social equality starts by confronting the bullies that dominate the teaching unions.


  46. “Besides…those are NOT THE NAMES OF THE SCHOOLS I CALLED…do not make yaself look foolish..do your RESEARCH…BEFORE jumping out to CONTRADICT..”

    My friend, do research what?

    I also mentioned “other ‘ivy league’ universities,” which was done to include the ones you bragged about.

    Or perhaps you were making up stuff just to make thing interesting? Remember, you also admitted to posting untruths as well.

    As I have previously mentioned, many contributors, especially you….. mention things in contributions you post to this forum, which you SUBSEQUENTLY FORGET. And when you’re reminded, you “cry foul.”

    I’m not in the mood to have a “jousting match” with you…….lest I’m accused of “compiling crap all month long” and “having a psychotic break or meltdown.”

    But, as USUAL, you’re always the one who ends up “making yaself look foolish.”

    Have a wonderful day.


  47. David
    In your post at 11:53 you could replace “Finland” with Barbados and the post would still be true except for the difference between the strongest and weakest students. It is my hypothesis that it is the culture of the home and the community from which a child comes that largely determines that child’s academic performance. Other than the students, there is no difference in terms of teachers, teacher training, curriculum, infrastructure, books etc between say Queen’s College and Grantley Adams.


  48. Educate thineself….and stop walking through darkness and ignorance…

    “Listen to this audio documentary on the Educate podcast. Subscribe now.

    Three colleges make amends

    • Harvard
    • Georgetown
    • University of Virginia
    Dozens of American colleges and universities are investigating their historic ties to the slave trade and debating how to atone.

    Profits from slavery and related industries helped fund some of the most prestigious schools in the Northeast, including Harvard, Columbia, Princeton and Yale. And in many southern states — including the University of Virginia — enslaved people built college campuses and served faculty and students.

    Today a growing movement to confront this legacy is being spurred by student protests and campus leaders reacting to high-profile racial conflict that has recently beset the nation. The result has been historical investigations, university commissions, conferences, memorials, and, at Georgetown, a handful of the descendants of enslaved people arriving as first-year students at the institution that owned their ancestors.

    “The story of the American college is largely the story of the rise of the slave economy in the Atlantic world,” says Craig Steven Wilder, a historian at MIT and author of “Ebony and Ivy: Race, Slavery, and the Troubled History of America’s Universities.”

    Early benefactors who gave money to Brown and Harvard, for instance, made their fortunes running slave ships to Africa and milling cotton from plantations in the American South. Georgetown could afford to offer free tuition to its earliest students by virtue of the unpaid labor of Jesuit-owned slaves on plantations in Maryland. At the University of Virginia — founded and designed by Thomas Jefferson — slaves cooked and cleaned for the sons of the Southern gentry.

    “Yale inherited a small slave plantation in Rhode Island that it used to fund its first graduate programs and its first scholarships,” Wilder says. “It aggressively sought out opportunities to benefit from the slave economies of New England and the broader Atlantic world.”

    To date, there is no single accounting of how much money flowed from the slave economy into coffers of American higher education. But Wilder says most American colleges founded before the Civil War relied on money derived from slavery. He suspects that many institutions are reluctant to examine this past. “There’s not a lot of upside for them. You know these aren’t great fundraising stories,” Wilder says.

    Some people say that institutions must do more than make apologies and rename buildings. They insist that scholarships and other forms of monetary reparations are due. And others argue that whatever colleges and universities are doing to acknowledge their slave-holding past — a campus memorial to slaves, for example — is motivated by public relations and does nothing to ameliorate the legacy of slavery and systemic inequality.

    Brown University was the first to confront its ties to slavery in a major way. In 2003, Brown president Ruth Simmons appointed a commission to investigate. “What better way to teach our students about ethical conduct than to show ourselves to be open to the truth, and to tell the full story?” she says.

    At Harvard, a professor and his students investigated the university’s past and found slavery hiding in plain sight. The University of Virginia in Charlottesville is naming buildings for enslaved people who worked there, and teaching high school students about how modern racial inequities are rooted in the slaveholding past. Georgetown is creating an institute to study slavery and has apologized to the families of enslaved people it sold.

    Simmons says the recent rise of racial conflicts in the United States is a reprise of past wrongs that went unresolved. She says colleges can promote reconciliation by thoroughly examining their pasts. “We don’t have to fight about it. We don’t have to be angry about it,” Simmons says. “But we do have to come to terms with it.”

    What follows are stories of three universities investigating their ties to slavery and grappling with how to make amends for this history.”


  49. Research Ivy League schools thoroughly and the recent movement to make changes…before jumping out to attack.


  50. Again…for those who are HARD TO UNDERSTAND….especially the dumb, backward…MISEDUCATED LEADERS…

    “The University of Virginia in Charlottesville is naming buildings for enslaved people who worked there, and teaching high school students about how modern racial inequities are rooted in the slaveholding past.”

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