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[Barbados Underground] The decision by the principals of Ross University School of Medicine to relocate to Barbados has sparked a debate across the region. The blogmaster sees the decision for what it is, Ross’ owner made a BUSINESS decision to move from hurricane ravaged Dominica to a user friendly – out of the hurricane track – geography.

The more important question Barbadians should be asking is what concessions were given to Ross University School of Medicine by the Mottley government. While in opposition Mottley and team were strident in the call for concessions given to Sandals, Cost-U-Less and a few others be shared with the public. Guess what, the public is none the wiser after being in office for more than three months.

In response to requests from members of the BU family to create a blog space to facilitate debate the blogmaster is pleased to share the letter Prime Minister Roosevelt Skerrit issued to President and CEO Lisa Wardell of Adtalem Global Education – parent company of Ross University – last month to inform the discussion.

Thanks to the BU family member for sharing!

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347 responses to “Ross University School of Medicine Debate”

  1. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    @ pieceuhderockyeahright, who wrote ” I wonder how many of the others of the money launderers ”

    What about those who pay bribes but the money does not leave Barbados ?

    Seems launching this foray into the USA justice system could be a diversion.

    Buh doan mine me cause this is just an imaginary for my novel

  2. Enuff Avatar
    Enuff

    Sargeant

    Go dig. You may very well find that I supported the guvment, you will also find that I tek nuff licks from Bushie for being a strong supporter of CSME. You gine be calling me the PM very soon. I have gone from yardfowl, to paid PR now czar.

  3. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @Mariposa
    After your herculean efforts to divert attention from the thread about Mr. Inniss’a arrest on money laundering charges by posting stupid allegations there about the arrival of Ross University in Barbados, It is a most delicious irony to see substantive discussion of Mr. Inniss’s misadventure taking over this thread about Ross U.

  4. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    Hants

    You asked a good question which deserves an answer. The bribe money that does not leave Barbados goes to building apartments that are paid for in cash, opening businesses and purchasing high end vehicles.

    When the apartments are finished and whether tenanted or not additional bribe money is deposited as rents received. Let’s say you open a business, for argument sake a rum shop, bribe money is also added to the day’s takings and deposited as clean money. The high end vehicles are paid for in cash with the collusion of the dealers, who in turn deposit the cash over time as a normal part of their daily takings. You really think that this scam only works for fast food restaurants?

    Sent from my iPad

  5. Mariposa Avatar
    Mariposa

    Hoping that Mia Mottley does not have or feel any comfort from those who would make her belive that undermining a weak and vulnerable country is the right and proper thing
    Throught out the history of Barbados politics govts leaders have always take pride in steering barbados interest and people away from the glaring eyes of public perception that barbados is a nation of self serving and arrogant people
    Now with a new leader to guide our future a path has been set one in which glaring eyes and open mouth can once again say Barbadians are a nation of self serving and arrogant people
    Certainly we can do better

  6. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    @Caswell,

    Will be interesting to see if there will be the usual “commission of inquiry” into malfeasance during the previous administration.

  7. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    @Mariposa

    Mariposa is Spanish for butterfly but you seem more of a moth and Mia is your flame. Give it up for Pete’s sake. You are acting as though you are trying to find something on her. You do not have to continue with this nonsense, unless some other substantive development emerges. Trust me, knowing Mia, give it time something else would emerge.

    Sent from my iPad

  8. Mariposa Avatar
    Mariposa

    Why involve yourself with Mariposa the bolg is for all voices and opinions .therfore Mariposa is also entitled to views or opinion

    On the subject of offshore university it is of relevance that past govt did not involve barbados intergrity by undermining the peoples of those countries interest when engaging with the administrators off shore universities

  9. David Avatar
    David

    What?

  10. Mariposa Avatar
    Mariposa

    What ? What? Are you surprised that past govt have nevet used or engaged in undermining or backstabbing small island nation govts and its people for economic purpose
    Dont you feel a sense of shameful disgust that present govt has undermine the Dominican people interest by removing 30percent of their GDP…..NO?
    Well i do
    That is why i will continue to give my opinion not asking or looking for any one to agree with me
    I was up in a poor family enviroment and told to do unto others as i would like done unto me
    Were You?
    I dont think so because in the past days you have revealed that your interest is one of self interest and if need be you would steal and rob any one rich or poor
    You are one pathetic bastard

  11. David Avatar
    David

    Saw you online this evening during Stuart’s bitter speech to the AGM. After all these weeks showed he learned nothing. What a vindictive and bitter man. Let him retire and read his two books.

  12. Guest Avatar
    Guest

    https://www1.salary.com/Lisa-W-Wardell-Salary-Bonus-Stock-Options-for-ADTALEM-GLOBAL-EDUCATION-INC.html
    Lisa W. Wardell
    Executive Compensation
    As Chief Executive Officer and President at ADTALEM GLOBAL EDUCATION INC, Lisa W. Wardell made $6,397,080 in total compensation. Of this total $929,423 was received as a salary, $1,000,485 was received as a bonus, $1,741,417 was received in stock options, $2,684,087 was awarded as stock and $41,668 came from other types of compensation. This information is according to proxy statements filed for the 2017 fiscal year.

  13. Mariposa Avatar
    Mariposa

    What line are speaking of. You cant see me on line.m clothes line or for that matter fishing line
    Neither do i stand on line to backstab by friends
    But then again some people would
    Wouldnt they ?and you David belive it is alright

  14. Mariposa Avatar
    Mariposa

    Also there is nothing bitter about Stuart speech What is bitter is the serpentine tongue of our present leader who has dished out bitter medicine to the people of barbados with huge tax increases and more bitter medicine to the people of Dominica by wiping out one fourth of their economic progress
    All Stuart did was to lay out the truthfulness and deceptive model of the blp party bitter past and the present years

  15. Artax Avatar
    Artax

    Hal Austin

    Why do you constantly describe anyone who disagrees with you as being “silly,”……

    …….but when they respond accordingly, yet become offended?

    Insecurity!!!!!

    I’ll await your usual abuse.

  16. Artax Avatar
    Artax

    ******you become offended?

  17. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin

    Don’t shift the argument. I quoted someone and you claimed that I agreed with him. It is silly to suggest a quote is an endorsement. That is essay writing 101.

  18. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ Senator Caswell Franklyn

    You said and I quote “… The high end vehicles are paid for in cash with the collusion of the dealers, who in turn deposit the cash over time as a normal part of their daily takings. You really think that this scam only works for fast food restaurants?…”

    Yet incredulously we have one Crier for Freedom here “released” from said 700 slaves rather employee plantation who is now “washed in the Blood of The Lamb!”

    She makes no reference to such past or ongoing sins but comes to us cleansed and delirious that we ignore all the past and present sins.

    In fact dear Senator, in all the REMONSTRATIONS of said tear driven enunciated, have you ever once seen her speak about the scourge of drugs?

    Has she ever but once spoken about what should be done to such persons?

    But then again her sins be forgiven her WIGHOUT HER RENOUNCJNG THAT SIN PUBLICLY cause she special. Heheheheh

  19. Artax Avatar
    Artax

    I believe you’re the one shifting the argument.

    I asked a simple question:

    Why do you constantly describe anyone who disagrees with you as being “silly,”……

    …….but when they respond accordingly, yet become offended?

    And your response was irrelevant to the question.

    Comprehension and common sense 101.

    But then again…… the Almighty Hal Austin is by far the most intelligent individual posting to BU, while all others are “silly” and write “waffle.”

  20. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    @Guest
    A glimpse of how these companies spend. How many student fees are needed to cover that? The tip of the of modern compensation issues.

  21. A. Dullard Avatar
    A. Dullard

    @Enuff

    “I have gone from yardfowl, to paid PR now czar.”

    Not really. Still a yard fowl.

  22. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin

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    A new progressive story on climate change in the UK is needed urgently. One that feels urgent, authentic and contemporary. One about how climate breakdown is intimately connected to the things that we worry about and the values that we hold. One about people, not systems; principles, not lines on graphs. Not a vague aspiration for jobs in clean energy, but one about work, and home, and international solidarity, and justice, and fairness.(Quote)

  23. Mariposa Avatar
    Mariposa

    Heard that barbados govt gave 50%deposits as surety for the Cloverly apts where ROSS students now resides
    Also a waiver on water taxes and departure tax

  24. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin

    Mariposa,

    If that is true, that is unforgivably scandalous.

  25. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    IF THEY INDEED DID THIS……..THAT WOULD DEFEAT THE PURPOSE OF BRINGING ROSS TO BARBADOS AS YOU WOULD BE GIVING AWAY A LOT OF THE REAL BENEFITS OF HAVING THE SCHOOL HERE

    ARE THE OTHER BOGUS SCHOOLS NOW GOING TO HAVE THESE BENEFITS TOO?

  26. Mariposa Avatar
    Mariposa

    This govt has shown in the last two months they are capable of being idiotic
    Ross was given huge incentives to stay in Dominica most of which govt paid for and refuse after much negotiation by which Ross agreed to remain
    Ross is a company driven by a business model for profit
    The idea that Ross would leave Dominic and give up so much of what the govt of Dominica had offered them because of the Hurricane is poppy cock and a shadow story to hid what incentives were dangled before there eyes by Barbados.
    The bottom line being that Barbados offers were much larger
    Furthemore there arr other countries in the region that is not in the direct path of hurricanes which Ross could have avail itself if wanted to do so
    The burning question of transparency is the tipping point of Ross relocation to Barbados and where the issue would remain

  27. Mariposa Avatar
    Mariposa

    All roads lead to the. Bogus Hurricane story
    All roads lead to the deafening silence on the actions of transparency
    Mottley one s o.otood in the house of Parliament and bellowed
    Silence means consent

  28. David Avatar
    David

    You are correct, ROSS is a business and satisfied customers must be a priority for them. If students and parents are not happy with having to live in hurricane threatened physical conditions, it will influence decision making. You ignore that ROSS is presently accommodating ROSS students in St.Kitts and Tennessee. You are prepared to believe what is in your head despite what is obvious.

  29. sirfuzzy Avatar
    sirfuzzy

    @Caswell Franklyn

    I believe your advice can be useful and I will certainly be guided by much of it.

    By the way, about the suits, even though I look good in them, they are a bit too much for my taste but when in Rome.

    Sent from my iPad

    @ are tailored suits a requirement for the meeting of the senate? I can remeber Branford Taitt; did he always wear a suit when in the senate?

  30. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    RE ROSS IN ST KITTS

    YOU DO KNOW THAT ROSS HAS A VET SCHOOL IN ST KITTS
    AND THAT NEARBY IS THE MED SCHOOL WHICH WAS STARTED BY ROSS FAMILY MEMBERS AFTER THEY SOLD THE MED SCHOOL IN PORTSMOUTH TO DEVRY ABOUT 15 YEARS OR SO AGO.

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  32. Mariposa Avatar
    Mariposa

    Ross can have schools wherever it dam please . However the issue of Ross locating to Barbados goes above and beyond Ross business endeavours but what role did the barbados govt have in enticing Ross to locate to Barbados and a need by this govt to be openly truthful and to where good goverence is relevant to transparency
    If govt has used taxpayers monies or other forms of resources in any way as incentives for Ross to relocate to Barbados the public has a right to know
    Mia ran a campagain on transparency . Now it is apparant that another promise has been broken and replaced by a strategy of smoke and mirrors
    The koolaid will eventually lose its purpose and the truth will be told
    It
    What is being said as to govt interaction and concessions given to Rossbwould remain as a truth until this govt decides to speak or interject what information it has about any concessions given to Ross

  33. David Avatar
    David

    This is because you know so? You have inside information? You prefer to based conclusions on lies posted no basis in fact read concessions?

  34. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    this topic should be closed
    we are not learning anything new
    we are only being subjected to constant rubbish
    i am not a favorite of offshore schools……..but they are here in barbados
    lets see how we can benefit from them

    IF WE CAN HAVE THE 5 OR SO THAT THE DLP BROUGHT TO THE ISLAND
    THERE IS NO GOOD REASON WHY WE CAN NOT HAVE ROSS TOO
    WHEN AUIS LEFT ST MAARTEN -ALSO AFTER THE SAME HURRICANE- NO ONE COMPLAINED
    NO ONE SAID “LOOK HOW THE DLP ROB THE PEOPLE OF ST MAARTEN

  35. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    THE DUMBOCRATIC LABOUR PARTY BROUGHT ABOUT 5 MEDICAL STOOLS TO BIM
    NOT A SOUL MURMURED OR COMPLAINED OR ASKED ABOUT CONCESSIONS
    MIA BRINGS AN ESTABLISHED MEDICAL SCHOOL AND THE BULLSHIT FLIES!

    QUESTION WHAT CONCESSIONS DID THE DUMMBOCRATIC PARTY GIVE TO THE 5 MEDICAL STOOLS IT BROUGHT INTO BARBADOS

    CONCLUSIONS:
    5 MEDICAL STOOLS IS BETTER THAN I ESTABLISHED MEDICAL SCHOOL?
    ONLY THE DUMBOCRATIC LABOUR PARTY MUST BE ALLOWED TO BRING MEDICAL STOOLS TO BARBADOS

  36. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    Georgie Porgie

    You are so right. One of those offshore medical universities, American University oh Barbados, is operating a hell-hole out of old B.E.T building in Wildey. They treat staff worse than slaves, refuse to pay NIS and refuse to clean the building.

    Sent from my iPad

  37. Mariposa Avatar
    Mariposa

    Well if the govt belive that public conclusions are incorrect in reference to Ross concessions
    Then only can the govt give the relevant information
    The govt is quick to PR ever dam thing . So why not on relevant issues relatingto. Ross
    Giving away taxpayers monies and not told in what way and manner is not good goverence

    And to You bozie GP i have already decided that u have a missing screw
    So let me spelled out my reasons for keeping present govt feet to the fire
    Present govt pushed the issue of transparency with a promised to be more transparent than past govt
    Sorry if u did not get the memo

  38. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    mariposa

    you have every right to keep the governments feet to the fire
    BUT IN THE ROSS SITUATION …….THERE IS REALLY NO THERE THERE

    IF ROSS IS A PROBLEM…THEN THE 5 MEDITAL STOOLS BROUGHT IN BY THE DUMBOCRATS MUST BE INVESTIGATED TOO

    SENATOR FRANKLIN SIR

    I AM NOT AT ALL SURPRISED TO HEAR YOUR REPORT THAT AUB
    is operating a hell-hole out of old B.E.T building in Wildey. They treat staff worse than slaves, refuse to pay NIS and refuse to clean the building.

    I HAVE SEEN SIMILAR IN ALL THE INDIAN LED OFFSHORE SCHOOLS AT WHICH I HAVE WORKED

    GOVERNMENT SHOULD WITHDRAW AUB’S CHARTER UNTIL ALL NIS PAYMENTS ARE MADE

  39. David Avatar
    David

    Why are medical schools being attracted to Barbados? The business plan we are told includes a sought after forex inflow which is gold dust for an island about to apply for IMF SDR drawdowns, employing people, and other economic considerations etc. This preamble explains why NIS and other Government departments owed will look the other way even codes are being contravened.

  40. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    there is no reason for local companies or OFFSHORE BOGUS MEDITAL STOOLS TO FAIL TO PAY NIS OR OTHER FEES TO GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENTS

  41. Mariposa Avatar
    Mariposa

    Tax waivers or concessions(given) to any person individual or group are known as taxpayers money granted to govt on a promise that govt would guard and protect with the interest of the people and country Ross is an outside entity now located in Barbados govt has avail Ross to entitlements that belong to the State
    It therfore behooves me to think that asking govt to release transactions between govt and Ross is deemed offensive because of the asking …especially when recent actions between Ross and Dominica shows that Ross was not altogether truthful on meetings with the Dominican govt.

  42. John Avatar
    John

    David
    August 14, 2018 10:47 AM

    Why are medical schools being attracted to Barbados? The business plan we are told includes a sought after forex inflow which is gold dust for an island about to apply for IMF SDR drawdowns, employing people, and other economic considerations etc. This preamble explains why NIS and other Government departments owed will look the other way even codes are being contravened.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Laundries perhaps?

  43. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin

    How can the business plans of medical schools include forex? This is more waffle about finance that the guy does not understand. He should post anonymously.

  44. David Avatar
    David

    You are a buffoon par excellence. The inflows from medical schools with a foreign student population originate from where? You may have the last word on this matter.

    #JA

  45. Artaxerxes Avatar
    Artaxerxes

    Georgie Porgie

    The following information, which was taken from the BGIS website, should be of interest, not only to you…….but also to Mariposa and the resident pantomath….both of whom have been hypocritically and over exaggerating this non issue.

    The information has to do with the relocation of AUIS to Barbados.

    “Speaking at the ribbon cutting ceremony this weekend to mark the official opening of the university’s Basic Sciences Facility, Dr Edward Layne, a gastroenterologist and native of Barbados, provided the background of the AUIS’ move to Barbados.

    Layne, who served as the honorary consul for Barbados in Atlanta for the past 20 years before his retirement last December, was instrumental in paving the pathway for the institution’s move to Barbados.

    “Two years ago, a young visionary entered my office, his name was Mr Milo Pinckney. He said to me, ‘Dr. Layne, I am not a doctor but I am the son of a physician entrepreneur with Caribbean roots’. He said ‘I am a businessman, who owns a medical school and have several patents in the field of medical technology’, and that in my opinion may be able to revolutionise the training of young doctors and the practice of medicine.”

    He added that he was quite curious as Pinckney explained his interest in moving the university to Barbados and deploying a patented, medical information technology device called the Clinical Activity Rotation Log or CARL.
    +++++++++++++++++++++

    I found the following information very interesting.

    “Admittedly impressed by what the young businessman had to say, Layne introduced him to the minister of foreign affairs and foreign trade, Senator Maxine McClean, while hosting the fourth biennial Barbados Comes to Atlanta event in May 2016.

    Sharing his perspective of the experience, Pinckney explained that when he met McClean a year and a half ago, “in a moment’s notice” she saw the merit in what they presented when they proposed to move AUIS to Barbados.

    “She embraced it with such vigour that she visited our offices in Atlanta to see first-hand what we were doing, and she said ‘I can get behind it’ and championed the move here…”
    ±++++++++++++++

    Note, Maxine McClean “EMBRACED it with such VIGOUR that she visited our offices in Atlanta to see first-hand what we were doing, and she said ‘I CAN GET BEHIND it’…………and championed the move here…”

    Also….…….”The minister of foreign affairs EXPLAINED that CONVINCING HER COLLEAGUES was “not a HARD TASK” as they all recognised the potential of the institution as it has been demonstrating its capacity to produce good students.”

  46. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin

    It would not be part of the Ross business plan, earning forex, even if it will benefit Barbados. There is a difference. I always promise myself to ignore your silliness, but you abuse your position as chairman of the board of BU. You are a Google fake

  47. David Avatar
    David

    The point that was being made is that government agencies owed monies have been known to look the other way because of the other benefits they bring to the economy, in the case of the medical schools they are responsible for being foreign exchange into the country, employing people etc. Tou are truly a buffoon.

  48. T.Inniss Avatar
    T.Inniss

    Ms Ram seem to be one of the main beneficiaries of the presence of these indian medical students here in Barbados.

    She and Popular supermarket I am told ha ha.They know where to shop cheap.Good for them lol.

  49. Artaxerxes Avatar
    Artaxerxes

    Georgie Porgie

    Ironically, the DLP also mounted their election campaign on a platform of good governance, transparency and accountability……yet they were instrumental in soliciting over five medical schools to “set up shop” in Barbados, in circumstances where the Barbadians do not have any knowledge of what concessions were granted to intice these universities……..

    ………especially under circumstances where AUIS’s relocation to Barbados, were similar to that of Ross.

    ….,…and we have another situation where the former minister of education was given a job as vice chancellor of a medical school that came into Barbados with his approval.

    What concessions Ronald Jones offered the school’s hierarchy and prior arrangements made to facilitate the school moving to Barbados….. in exchange for his job…..in the event his party lost the election?

    What effect did AUIS’s relocating to Barbados have on the economies of St. Eustatius and St. Maarten……and what percentages of GDP, employment, and income from providing goods and services to students……were lost as a result of the move?

    Did the move affect diplomatic relations between the Dutch Antilles and Barbados?

    These are reasonable questions and should not be interpreted as a “tit for tat” situation.

  50. John Avatar
    John

    So where is Ross School of medicine going to be located?

    Any ideas?

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