RACISM Lingers On

Submitted by Looking Glass

Not in Barbados!

First congratulations to the newly appointed Governor General and Madame Loretta: another tribute to location.

Yes there is and will always be racism even among Whites. For some Whites it is a reaction to their lower class status especially after being given a title by a Black government. Blacks too are in practical terms most guilty of racism. For us it is a convenient excuse that enables us to blame others for our shortcomings. Some Whites who did not marry Blacks passed on financial and other inheritance to their black mistresses and their offspring. It led to the Black Class System (Re Comments To Rescue and Rebuild) within which those with brown-skin were considered not to be “One uh We”, treated like Whites and discriminated against. But no one talks about black racism which in many ways was more vicious than white racism.

Some left high school with a birth certificate, worked for a mixed-race owned company and never reached management level. Now one low class White soul pontificates about white racism. Does marriage to a high-brown render one anti racist? His observations suggest he knows nothing about our history, less about socio-political and economic dynamics and is very untruthful.

In Barbados Sold we are told that Blacks tolerated a relationship with the dominant white minority group who enjoy a disproportionate economic influence “which extends to the political sphere,” that Whites decided not to “fully integrate their businesses” and the unwillingness of governments to “react to the aggressive acquisition of Barbados assets.” Exactly what does he mean?

The Whites, some of whom were slaves built, developed, governed the country (Little England 12) and provided the social services we today enjoy until we voted them out of politics. Their businesses, some owned by the racially mixed, were by far the largest employer of blacks. Their offspring developed and expanded the businesses they inherited. Black businesses on the other hand died with their founders. Most of their offspring opted for education and or the white-collar job. In the last 100 or so years the indigenous Whites, including those of mixed origin, were not more than 25% of the total population. Less than 5% have a university degree. They not Blacks or government are the economy.

The suggestion/implication that local firms rejected financial bids from Blacks is an insult to Niggers. Among other things it implies that it would reduce inequality and poverty. Are there 30 Blacks who together could afford to purchase any of the firms sold to Trinidad? The businesses were sold because they were not doing well and there wasn’t much by way offspring to carry on the business. Given the absence of skills and expertise needed to maintain and develop business integration by elevating Blacks to management level remains questionable.

Successive governments and others are blamed for failing to “react to the aggressive acquisition of Barbados Assets,” and for permitting such transactions. The assets are owned by people not the Government. Government cannot dictate to people how to dispose of their businesses or how to distribute their wealth. It cannot create or multiply wealth by dividing or redistributing it. Nor can it legislate the poor out of poverty by legislating wealth away from prosperity. To give it has to take from others. The White-man has no responsibility for the woes of Blacks who have done little to help themselves or the country.

And governments are accused of ‘collaborating’ with whites. This from one who I believe worked for a firm bought by Trinidad, who never reached management level, contributed nothing to society (no community involvement) but was awarded a title. Perhaps he has a point. Being so openly critical of a government that blessed him a title and the Whites says a lot about his socio-phycological dynamics. A major business was sold to the French who offered less than a locally owned company because the mixed-race owners of the local company were deemed to be racist. So could it be that he opposed Trinidadians buying our assets because they fired the Knight? Some of the ‘Trinidadians’ are related not foreigners.

Blogger asked how many whites “integrate blacks in their class by marriage.” A few married blacks. The Knighted soul married a light-brown. Some of those considered pure whites are racially mixed and owned the largest businesses on the Rock. I believe you worked for them. How did you know whites castigated Bizzy and boycotted the wedding? Were you there?

Yes they were white public school teachers at Combermere, Lodge School, Harrison College and policemen. The principal of Harrison College, Fred Haskell, took a black boy short of clothing to Broad Street, bought him some clothing and gave free him private lessons. The boy won a Barbados scholarship. This was at a time of the GCE, when Barbados was said to have one of the best education systems in the world. Today the evaluation of our education by 2 leading universities (UK and Canada) is to put it mildly embarrassing. Others wonder based on the written and spoken word if some of you got past 3rd standard.

Captain Farmer of the police force discovered Sir Gary at a time when he couldn’t get past Spartan club door. The all-white selection committee of Barbados Cricket and the captain John Goddard selected the three Ws, Griffith and Hall (who later represented the West Indies) to play for Barbados. As a schoolboy my team and I had the privilege of being coached on the field and in the pavilion by Norman Marshall and Dennis Atkinson during a first division match against Wanderers and also at Pickwick.

You assume Whites want to “block black middle class from success.” My great-grand parents and some of the clan all had their own businesses which they started from scratch. Many of their offspring opted for education rather than business and attended university. Six of them are “Icons” in the political arena there and in the USA. Did the Whites block them from success?

I grew up in an area surrounded by real poverty at a time when ham was a luxury, when families helped each other and the high school was expensive and costly in more ways than one. Today some of the kids from the area hold the biggest positions on the island and in government. Others are professionals there, Cave Hill,North America and the UK. An exception is Onion Bags, a disaster who I believe did not make it past standard seven. Did Whitee tried but failed to block their success?

You claim governments have “roles to ensure that businesses do not have significant leverage in economies by forcing companies to break up if they become dominant.” If that were the case there would be no monopolies in the world. Do yourself a big favour. Take not what you believe or were told for granted. Do some research or investigation before commenting.

213 thoughts on “RACISM Lingers On


  1. @ David
    What will it take?
    *******************
    It will take the same as practically every other unsolvable problem that we face in this world.
    Wise, strong and visionary (read righteous) LEADERSHIP.


  2. @ Bushie
    Your LEADERSHIP comment is 110% on target.

    However, there are NO UNSOLVABLE probs. There are solutions OR the realisation that the supposed problem was mis-diagnosed!

    @David
    The term “polluted by blacks” is a very disturbing indeed.

    While we must discuss racial issues and perceptions openly we all should have the maturity to assume that there is wrong on both sides.

    You seem to forget that whites are only 5% of the population and should be close to irrelevant. The major problem facing the majority in Bim is piss poor LEADERSHIP!

    Also dont assume whites are totally stupid, as they know that they are a small, visible minority with a higher income/ wealth situation and therefore TARGETS of many.(politicians,thieves, racists etc ) They have a keen sense of vulnerability. Interestingly, deep in their psyche resent whites like me who “abandon them’ and immigrate. Strangely many blacks feel that way about immigrants too.

    David, Bushie et al, it would be interesting to ascertain how many of the posters here have ever had a good friend of the opposite race?????????

    I can certainly assure everyone here that I have had and still have many more dark friends than white friends. How many dark Bajans can say that?


  3. @ robert ROSS!

    now let me back up a little the premise of your statement was not the intent to condem the anglican church for racism of all kind but it was to invoke a message of ‘BLACK RACISM being condone and practice in the Anglican church now you might try to bop and weave all you want but to those who have read your comment there is where your implication lies. not solely with the anglican church and racisim overall but in its lack of appointment of white minister in a perdominately black churches.therefore sending a racist view on your part


    • @Moneybrain

      Whites is single digit population share but apply the 80:20 rule when adjudging economic share.


  4. @ David

    we asked the same question………..two hours on there’s no answer……….and maybe that’s the answer.


  5. @ ac

    There is no such thing as a “black church”. There is Christ’s Church and that’s it…or are you a different kind of Christian too?

    Now – on ‘bop’ing and weaving – what are the teachings you refer to?


  6. John | June 30, 2012 at 3:11 PM |
    Yardbroom

    We are told that only Blacks in Barbados are incapable of running successful businesses?

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    Who told us so?
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    A day has passed and still no answer?


  7. @David
    I very much doubt that it is anywhere close to the Pareto Principle (80:20).

    However, the key for every family/ individual should be to answer the question, “how can I improve myself and build the wealth and social position I desire”. Now if peeps are being kept back because of skin colour then that must change and should have been addressed a long time ago.

    The reality is that if one realistically researches and evaluates the situation black peeps can and do succeed.


    • @Moneybrain

      All can agree to your last comment but the process of self-evaluation, the required awareness, the Eureka moment that drives the Black individual to do as you suggest creates a scenario where only the fittest will survive. We are critiquing a system which is constructed for the haves to acquire more and the havenots to work 2 times harder or get lucky.


  8. David | July 1, 2012 at 2:36 PM |
    @Moneybrain

    We are critiquing a system which is constructed for the haves to acquire more and the havenots to work 2 times harder or get lucky.
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    Wasn’t there some study recently that showed productivity was rather low?!!

    Guess it has not sunk in as yet.


  9. People aren’t black and white, they are lighter or darker shades.
    If you marry someone lighter than you your kids will be lighter.
    If you marry someone darker than you your kids will be darker.

    Slavery started racism where blacks were considered half man to justify the brutality and cruelty of white slavers.


  10. @David
    The system you describe pertains in Canada, the US and all over the world.
    The fittest survive and prosper it is a LAW of Nature. The question is who decides whether a person is fit or not, and I say that each individual can decide to improve by some means.

    It is easy to sit back and say that these white guys have disproportionate economic power in Bim and use that as an excuse. Do you think the power elite in Canada welcomed me at Pearson when i migrated to Canada? Plenty poor ass whites here. They also have a bad attitude towards self determination and want to blame others and look for social balance by taking hard earned money from the successful via taxes, but prefer to shun hard work/ education/ self improvement etc and this is true in a country with plenty-nuff opportunity/ rich with natural resources. Being a lazy human is the biggest problem of all.

    Anyhow, I must watch my darker brothers of the WI beat up on these whites from NZ in Cricket, it could be quite discriminatory from some pov maybe the NZ should start with 50 runs on the scoreboard from the first ball???
    It is unfair that WI has big strong fellas like Gayle, Pollard, Smitty etc LOL!

    My latin bros will share my attention in the Euro Soccer Final.


  11. ditto…’only the fittest will survive’ (whatever that actually means in non-evolutionary terms)


  12. yes against all odds black peeps and millions of us have managed to survive against all odds for within us lies the backbone to do any thing ONLY if given a FAIR CHANCE! starting out with an unequal level playing field has been and remain the major stumbling roadblock that still lies in our way and inspite of the many challenges many of us have forged forward with a limited timeline and a limited window of opportunity to do so ,those who think that we are the oneswho have stood in our own ways must look back at history and see how we started,the essence of our very being was taken from us and we as a people had to find the intestinal fortitude and the wherwithal to start all over again in a short space of time. that is call guts and bravado.NOw therevare those from the outside looking in and telling us who we should and what we should easily forgetting the wasted time and years we were the discarded and forgotten bunch now speaking as if we all start out at the same place and time. and eeverything wrong in our race is because of our own fault i say to them lets reverse roles then tell me all about it,


  13. @AC
    The reality is that LIFE IS NOT FAIR! My father made that very clear when I complained about anything. Is it fair that Sir Garry was a superior cricketing talent to all of us that played the game?

    Naturally, black people should NOT be discriminated against neither should some blacks have done so to me. Should we set up a system, the Ministry of Equalisation? Should the NBA mandate that since whites are the dominant skin colour BUT cant jump too well, that the NBA teams must all have 5 white skin players?

    My point is no matter any disadvantages each of us must have a relentless pursuit of personal success and NOT be pleased by wallowing in self pity, blaming others etc FIND SOLUTIONS that make sense.

    My mission on here is to advise black peeps that regardless of the history of discrimination many of wunna have already achieved SUCCESS. WHY?
    Research that formula and you will find that the successful peeps dont waste time and energy, they set their sights high and go for gold.


  14. Hi John, July 1, 2012 @ 2:29 PM

    I am not going on that cyclic track of yours it leads to no where , I see no purpose in using a different form of words to say the same thing.

    You can now make the point as you often do, “it is all about families” that accounts for a lack of Black businesses in Barbados.

    You can have the last word. . . . . but reality is what it is.


  15. “The Whites, some of whom were slaves built, developed, governed the country (Little England 1-2) and provided the social services we today enjoy until we voted them out of politics. In the last 100 or so years the indigenous Whites, including those of mixed origin, were not more than 25% of the total population. Less than 5% have a university degree. They not Blacks or government are the economy.”

    why do u not go and dig through the history of slavery in barbados and the
    caribbean before u start talking such utter rubbish with half truths? the blacks just after emancipation were hindered every which way the could to prevent them from prospering, e.g if land was valued at 10 shillings, the white paid 10 shillings but the black person had to pay10 times more s etc. this is documented history. it was law that the black COULD NOT have more than the white, therefore it would have been obvious coming down through the years that offspring of the white and the black would be similar to their parents. the indian race of which my great, great, grand dad was one had it a little better than the blacks, . there are plenty of history books out there….for God’s sake
    read them


  16. if whites castigated Bizzy and boycotted his wedding, so what? his happiness and that of his wife should have nothing to do with a bunch of fools who are usually unhappy behind close doors. if my happiness was dependent of others then i would be a queen most miserable. my dad taught me not to give a damn about anybody’s feelings towards me… be happy and i always will be. i have to endure constantly the pleadings from white men (NOT BAJANS) for a relationship, who do they think they are? i readily let them know that nothing compares to the black man. the white bajan is not white at all, who gives a damn about them? if Bizzy based his happiness on them, i guess he would have abandoned his black wife long ago. if he cared about them, he would have stayed in an unhappy marriage for the sake of ‘white’ community in barbaods…give me a break please…


  17. @money brain !

    the inference “LIFE IS NOT FAIR ” does not fit into that mould. for when one look at the economical and psychological transformation blacks had to endure one should wonder ‘how do they do it’ for one blacks did not choose their path on the contra the path was set out for them a path that took them away from self and catapult them into a life where there only way of survival was to adapt if truth be known blacks exemplifies “square pegs in round holes” doing the best under the circumstances


  18. @My 2 cents | June 30, 2012 at 6:47 PM |
    Racism is alive and well in Barbados anyone who cant see this is in denial. What’s changed is a growing percentage of blacks no longer fear whites or give a rats ass about them …Any significant mixture of blacks and whites is with white tourists who as a rule are not caught up in the racism on the ground in Barbados.”

    i agree and i will say i mix with whites every day and can tell u i for one do not give a rat’s bottom about them. in fact i had to check myself recently as my own friends have been apologising on my behalf when i insult or berate them for things i should have ignore…but i am young and i see the bajan whites as fighting to prove to blacks that they are superior, even the old and wrinkled whites, (i have a few old neighbours that crack me up when they attempt to do this)…


  19. Yardbroom | July 1, 2012 at 5:48 PM |
    Hi John, July 1, 2012 @ 2:29 PM

    I am not going on that cyclic track of yours it leads to no where , I see no purpose in using a different form of words to say the same thing.

    You can now make the point as you often do, “it is all about families” that accounts for a lack of Black businesses in Barbados.

    You can have the last word. . . . . but reality is what it is.
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    A convoluted answer to a simple question … who!!

    Guess you made it up!


  20. @ ac

    Actually yes ac I think it is. The Church is Christ’s Church and in Christ’s Church just as there is neither old nor young, gay nor straight, slave nor free and to whom the universal message is “Come whoever you are as you are”, so also there is neither black nor white. AND IF against all the norms and practices of the Church a man, who just happens to be white and the only non-retired white priest of 87 in the Church, trained at Codrington to where he was sent by a Bishop, has NEVER been put in charge of a parish in 11 years from ordination, full time or part-time when circumstances dictate, and is otherwise in good standing, then that is DISCRIMINATION ON GROUNDS OF RACE – what we know as RACISM.

    That is the very simple point. There is much more I could say about a lying Bishop and Dean, duplicity, broken promises and a myriad of discourtesies but since the finer points, as I say, normally elude you I will leave it at that. Who knows, David may one day put up a post on it all.

    But if you wish, since you appear, like others, obsessional of Robert Ross and appear also to take an interest in these things, why don’t you address the ‘burning’ issue of the dress code; or is it that, like Fr Goodridge, you wear asbestos in bed?


  21. | July 1, 2012 at 7:13 PM |
    Yardbroom | July 1, 2012 at 5:48 PM |
    Hi John, July 1, 2012 @ 2:29 PM

    You can now make the point as you often do, “it is all about families” that accounts for a lack of Black businesses in Barbados.
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    I have never made that point!!

    There are several strong families (both Black and White) who have never dabbled in business, have had limited success or have failed.

    My point is that that successful businesses, whether they be Black or White, are usually a product of a strong family.

    … and that’s why a surname is usually in the name of the business …. a simple observable fact.

    Eg … Manning, Wilkinson, Challenor, Rayside Williams Elcock etc etc etc.

    It is a universal fact …. Hewlett, Packard, Morgan, Barclay, etc etc etc.


  22. Moneybrain ”Should the NBA mandate that since whites are the dominant skin colour BUT cant jump too well, ”

    You obviously did not watch the Spanish goalie yesterday, to be repeating that cliche!!!

    😉


  23. @David”We are critiquing a system which is constructed for the haves to acquire more and the havenots to work 2 times harder or get lucky. ”

    Errrr…. it is the SAME the world over, under ANY free market model. How you think it is in the great USA? Some work three jobs to get by, white, (majority), black, spanish, asian, whatever.

    Have and have nots? Obviously speaking relatively, not compard to some countries?

    I agree and am sympathetic, and cannot belittle anyone’s circumstance, but I think we need a reality check. None of us have an easy time month to month, but relatively to many other countries, is a significant percentage ‘have nots’?

    Comparatively speaking, Barbados has NEITHER a significant percentage of really wealthy people nor really poor people (percentage wise) compared to many countries in South America, Asia and Eastern Europe.

    And make no mistake, many in the great USA are dirt poor too. Many, and good for them, make a home saving hobby of using discount coupons.


  24. @David,

    And I have to repeat this as a small but significant point. Using discount coupons to ‘get ahead’ and put some savings is a great opportunity and wise, but HAVING to do it, is just ……crazy in the ‘land of opportunity’.

    No doubt if we had them, we would ALL use them, as a money saving action. But to think many in the USA have no choice?

    Yet, the US spends so much on armoury etc (at least under the Republicans).

    How i s that for have and have nots? Irrespective of race?!


    • The comment about working twice as as hard as others must be seen in the context of Barbados. Why generalize the statement? Anyway as sated before we all have our views.


  25. @David,

    It is not easy, but one has to work to get ahead. One needs a door, but you can.

    When i was younger, I went overseas, worked temporarily while I pounded the pavement and found a job in my field of study.

    I remember one of the owners of the business seeing me in early once and telling me ‘ you will succeed, you know why?’

    I sort of knew what he was going to say, but shook my head to know exactly what. He sadi ‘because you are HUNGRY’ (to succeed). He also saw me in REALLY early one time and said, ‘isnt this a bit ridiculous’? I used to go in early to get a good start on my work.

    When I left, one of the senior guys told me, ‘you came here a boy and now you are a man’.

    I put my head down, fought mentally through some tough moments and a few trying moments, but got there.

    I can work many places in the world now if I wished.

    There is no other way to get ahead than to bust your tail when you are young.


  26. Yardbroom

    I will help you with the answer to the who.

    You were told this during the 60’s when you were indoctrinated by the political gibberish.

    Here is a quote from Hansard!!

    “Can you countenance anybody asking A.S. Bryden – he held office in the vestry – or who was so mad as to write in the newspaper asking him to declare his assets?

    THEY have lost political power now and THEY are asking every BLACK man who is holding office, so long as he can change a car three times a year, walk about looking clean and carrying a cheque book to declare his assets” said (Patsy) Springer.”


  27. @AC
    Bottomline….Belly aching is not the answer!

    Waiting on white peeps for giveaways OR as some may think repayment for previous generations behaviour is very unlikely to result in satisfaction. Therefore, we all have to search for viable family/ personal solutions. Even after 50 yrs of black political domination there does not seem like a system has been implemented to ensure that DESERVING black borrowers are treated fairly. ( assuming that this is genuine because it does not make business sense to me at all).

    Blacks did not choose to migrate to Bdos and neither did some of my family who were SENTENCED to servitude in Bim for the Monmouth Rebellion. Judge Jefferies could have sentenced them to hang and I would NOT have seen this Earth or the beautiful BIM. The reality for some Bajan blacks started the same way, their forefathers were political prisoners, maybe criminals, enemies etc. The context of the times of slavery was one in which in England when sailors were needed for a major voyage lasting 1-4yrs the Press Gangs would go out on a Sat night and wack men in the head, knocking them out stone cold, place them on the ship and head out to sea.
    Do you think people like that would care about others of a different colour from a strange part of the world?

    Everyone born in Bim in the last 50 yrs or so has been blessed to be so honoured. Africans dont want the black peeps back and neither do the British give a rodents rectum for the whites. Now China, India etc rapidly progressing and they are our common adversary because they want a share of our lifestyle and dont care if our standard drops precipitously. Now that is something all Bajans better had be focused on and developing strategic solutions for.

    The successful people on this planet understand their history and seek revenge via implementing a well thought out, viable plan that leads to personal success. All the leaders in Bim should be focusing everyone on this!


  28. @Crusoe
    I just remembered to thank you for your kind wishes for my enjoyment of BBQ in celebrating Canada Day. I trust you too will enjoy your barbie, imbibe the amber spirits or pop a few cold ones on the 4th.

    Your points above are perfectly correct IMO. David is more concrned about Bim, which is sensible, but we have to also appreciate broader context.

    Bajan political leadership, especially in terms of focusing the populace on the road to success, is apparently wanting. Pols, the world over, are only interested in feathering their own nest and creating dependence among the populace to buy votes. PITIFUL!


  29. @ROSS actually i am reading your last dribble and to be quite frank i have no sympathy for those who were alllowed to drive the bus for lo many years and now they are being told legally to move over and let others take some of the control all one hear is belly aching.Where were you when m.any blacks were being denied or pased over in favour of whites in the millions world wide now you expect one to shed tears for one lowly priest.give me af…..ing break. Bull s…it


  30. ac | July 2, 2012 at 12:36 PM |
    @ROSS actually i am reading your last dribble and to be quite frank i have no sympathy for those who were alllowed to drive the bus for lo many years and now they are being told legally to move over and let others take some of the control all one hear is belly aching.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    You realise you are talking about dead people!!!

    “Those who were alllowed to drive the bus” are long since dead so you must be having a conversation with duppies!!

    They really don’t care whether you have sympathy or not!!

    What a waste of time!!


  31. It is true that some whites left England as indentured servants, criminals and others who found themselves on the wrong side in the English civil War. There were a few from the lower social order who often had a little too much to drink in the pubs and awoke in the morning on the high seas bound for “The Barbadoes” or the Colonies.

    However, to COMPARE them with between the FIFTEEN and TWENTY MILLION West Africans who left their native shores MANACLED from the sixteenth to the nineteenth century is playing with words.

    If the White English wanted to send other White English from England to a far away country that is a problem.. But when the Whites traveled from England to Africa and enslaved millions of Blacks and then transported them almost halfway around the world. . . . . even to a simpleton like me there is no comparison between the two situations.

    I know that a kind of slavery existed in Africa for centuries. I am also aware that an Egyptian relief from the tomb of Horemheb ( 1350 BC) shows African slaves. However, the type of slavery introduced by Europeans firstly by the Portuguese then the English, French, Dutch French and others was of a different order. They turned what in some instances was personal to families and akin to a cottage industry, into something of a large scale manufacturing process and in so doing changed the perception of how a race of people were perceived.

    When the Benin king and other West Africans along the Niger river first saw Europeans – Portuguese – in 1486 little did they know what would ensue from such a meeting.


  32. @ ac

    I was wrong. It is not the finer points which elude you. It is pretty well everything. So I guess you are mad, or totally stupid, or in denial, or – and this is the most likely – simply vexatious. Now buzz off.


  33. @ Yardbroom

    Yes. The Obas of Benin and Olus of Warri have much to answer for. OR as one charming young Warri ‘princess’ once said to me: “The British got rid of their riff-raff. We got rid of ours”. Back to Africa – yes?


  34. @ Yardbroom

    Vagrants – not just drunks – were routinely shipped to the colonies. Our vagrancy laws – now repealed in name not substance – were, of course, based on the British models.


  35. @John

    apparently that is the world you life the wrongs should be buried and never resurrected so maybe you are right in your assumption. but yet although they are dead yet they still live. meaning that all the wrongs that were done to blacks in the minds of some should be buried and remained so never to be resurrected.maybe there is a duppie lurking some where out there that needs to find peace of mind.hope you find him.


  36. @Ross

    I will buzz off and give your racist behind a little time to think and come to a sense of reality! better late than never!


  37. @Yardie
    Obviously we cant show an equivalency between those sentenced, press ganged etc and slavery. My emphasis is developing the right attitude to attain success regardless of how terrible slavery was. The Jews have provided the basic formula….EDUCATION, knowledge is power, especially the right most timely knowledge.

    The Japs were NOT exactly kind to those interred in POW camps, they were treated as SLAVES. I had uncles that fought there BUT I have 2 good friends here in TO who are Japs, I certainly did not pre-judge them.

    There are black people still practicing slavery in Mali et al parts of Africa today. There are black guys known as PIMPS who have white slave girls today and who have been known to beat them and murder them. The World is an evil place.

    The real question is what do black people think is the solution?

    I have always just viewed black people as people, my equal unless they prove as many other whites et al that they are unworthy because they have very bad attitudes and other bad traits.


  38. ac | July 2, 2012 at 7:43 PM |
    @John

    apparently that is the world you life the wrongs should be buried and never resurrected so maybe you are right in your assumption. but yet although they are dead yet they still live. meaning that all the wrongs that were done to blacks in the minds of some should be buried and remained so never to be resurrected.maybe there is a duppie lurking some where out there that needs to find peace of mind.hope you find him.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I just don’t know how to get you satisfaction from those who have passed before and while I know of people who claim to have seen ghosts I have never …. atleast as far as I know.

    You could enlist the help of a medium but I would not recommend you dabbling in that, in fact I would encourage you to stay far from it.

    BTW, out of curiosity, how do you define Black …. and White?

    I figure from the years of discussion on the blogs that these two “races” are actually states of mind and do not depend on skin colour … atleast not always.

    The link below is a pretty long documentary on race, ethnicity and class I came across. It addresses the historical events of the 20th century and is called the “War of the World”. I am not saying the interpretations are correct, but they sure made me think.


  39. @ John

    Races are states of mind

    I’m sure I said above but if not then now: until we stop thinking ‘I’m black and so I think black’ or ‘I am white and so I think white’ there is little hope of change.
    Crusoe says tomorrow belongs to the young. David says, yes but the young must be directed – but what he means is directed by those of us who ‘know’. And those of us who know ‘think black’….which is why they are happy to talk of racist ‘whites’ but cannot contemplate, still less address meaningfully, the idea of racist ‘blacks’ – save possibly in the self-satisfaction, the corroboration, validation and sense of pay-back, which it gives them. The jump is just too much and is the reason, I suspect, why David won’t make the statement that he should about BU and racism.
    The wonderful thing about the young is that most of them couldn’t give a toss about it all – like the young everywhere so many of whom challenge the Church, political structures, and what we call ‘standards’ by their indifference. They would rather dance and make music and create life in kaleidoscope as fun. How old are those of us who write on here? And yet how puny and blinkered in so many way busily building our little corners in such stark and seemingly so simple colours. .


  40. Hi Moneybrain July 2, 2012 @ 9:04 PM
    I try to keep personal achievements or the lack of separate from my blogging, I have reasoned that it is not for me to tell “individuals” you could or can achieve if you did this or that, particularly when I do not “really” know them. . . . I assume little.

    The greatest handicap to the advancement of the majority Blacks in Barbados is that they do not see themselves as one people. Little distinctions in complexion, a difference in hair texture etc can separate them, much to their advantage. . . . because it prevents the “collective” action and effort that can change a society.

    A few rich Blacks will never change Barbados, we need a mind set that will seek to address the problems of the poor majority Black Barbadians, not because of a vote but because it is the right and proper thing to do . . . it would allow us as a nation to think of what we can become in say fifty years.

    As for the Whites in Barbados they have nothing to fear from an equal and fair society, people do not destroy what they have a stake in.

    In times of turmoil guns, position etc never protects a minority as experience has taught us throughout the world.

    I once had a conversation in England with an old White farmer from Zimbabwe he said: “We had almost an armoury in the house every kind of gun imaginable plus very big dogs we felt impregnable. They – the Africans – came in the middle of the night and torched the house we were defenceless. Only a lowly Black servant girl had warned us at the last moment what was about to happen – at great risk to her personal safety – so we hid by the river until daylight. Why she did it? because we had always treated our workers fairly. So although we lost everything, she spared us.”

    Perhaps I would never have entered this Blog but the statement ”
    . . . . “Blacks who have done little to help themselves or the country”. .
    was so asinine, I could not let it pass.

    I have many white friends, so many that I cannot recall all their names now, friends in the sense in that we go to their homes and they come to ours. One of my best friends ever was a German boy when I lived in Germany. But those positive interactions never cloud my judgement, the world will always be a better place with accord rather than discord.

    The past with all its horrors is what it is, it should never be forgotten but used as a spur for the forward advancement of Black people.


  41. “payback” when blacks speak about their past it is interrupted as seeking payback lets consider the jews they mantra is “Never forget” yet everybody listens to their story and their story have been written and constantly repeated and no one dares to see their cause as “payback” but for blacks they must remain silent !is that RACISM OR WHAT!


  42. @David et al,

    Yes the young need guidance. The guidance i will ‘try’ to give mine is along the lines of:

    – keep an open mind and ‘judge’ (not for the point of ‘judging’ poer se, but whom to associate with) individuals as just that, individual, regardless of ethnicity, religion or wealth (or lack thereof).
    – work hard
    – enjoy life
    – stay away from those who stab you in the back once, …they will do it again
    – a friend would not disparage nor belittle you, stay away from such a person
    – love life, love whom you see as ‘good’ poeple
    – love nature
    – love YOURSELF
    – study hard
    – take time for yourself to think and relax
    – be kind, truthful but gentle
    – mistrust promises of politicians and other ‘leaders’ most have a motive, look behind the facade for the motive, that goes for people generally too
    -everywhere, work, school, country, has a level of politrix, stay away from those who push agendas
    – enjoy literature and reading widely
    – take care of your health, cant buy health. Health before money.
    – respect those who earn it, but treat people generally with respect and respect yourself.
    – The Almighty is the only God, no man on earth, NONE represents God to you. It is between the Almighty and you, trust your instinct and conscience.

    Thats some of it.


  43. Oh, last one for now.

    – Stay away from drugs and spirits, they will damage you physically, mentally and emotionally.


  44. @AC
    The critical difference between the Jews and far too many black people is that the Jews understand that EDUCATION is paramount, Knowledge is POWER.( not just degrees, but researching how to make money/ run a business etc) Successful black peeps appreciate this point, very well. Don’t forget the Jews were slaves in Egypt ( ironic that they were slaves in Africa). BTW I know several Jews that are not at all successful, why? EDUCATION! Or lack of brain power.

    No doubt it is much easier to discriminate against a visible minority.


  45. Yardbroom

    Perhaps I would never have entered this Blog but the statement ”
    . . . . “Blacks who have done little to help themselves or the country”. .
    was so asinine, I could not let it pass.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The complete statement with which you take umbrage is “The White-man has no responsibility for the woes of Blacks who have done little to help themselves or the country”

    The statement can be interpreted in various ways and obviously your interpretation makes it offensive.

    You have assumed that “Blacks” and former slaves and plantation labourers are one in the same.

    I would suggest that “Blacks” is a term that is of more recent vintage and relates to a state of mind.

    … and “the White-man” … well, not sure exactly what, or who you see “the White-man” as.

    I have heard Bajans refer to people as “thinking White” which can make a “black man” into a “White-man”.

    The terms are used by Looking Glass without definition which does not help much.

    Barbados will come of age when we all realise we are in the same row boat together and pull the oars as one.

    I think we were actually once at that stage, long ago, but listened to talk intended to divide us, and it did.

    Right now we are pulling haphazard and can’t get to go straight.

    There is no vision and everyone wants to do his/her own thing, regardless of his/her neighbour.

    Not sure how or if we can get back on track.

    Maybe Senator Chandler is right and we need to face starvation …. and hope it forces us to wake up.


  46. @ Yardbroom

    My personal experiences of people, in their way, all over the place are just as yours. The Black estate workers wept at the funeral of Richard Rawle and indeed carried him from Codrington up the hill to Society Chapel “with Africa set fair”.

    @ John

    There’s nothing essentially wrong in expressing individuality by ‘doing your own thing’. Jesus did it. Love your neighbour becomes ‘don’t injure him’ – and with that I agree – provided it is understood as NOT meaning (as with the dress code debate) ‘don’t injure his sense of respectability’.

    @ Crusoe

    It would be nice to have you as an uncle. One thing though: it all works provided you don’t hector and talk down to the young as many Bajan elders do. They stop listening. BUT – don’t forget St Paul…”take a little wine for your stomach’s sake”.


  47. robert ross | July 3, 2012 at 9:15 AM |
    @ John

    There’s nothing essentially wrong in expressing individuality by ‘doing your own thing’. Jesus did it. Love your neighbour becomes ‘don’t injure him’ – and with that I agree – provided it is understood as NOT meaning (as with the dress code debate) ‘don’t injure his sense of respectability’.
    +++++++++++++++++++

    Agree individuality can’t be stymied, but Jesus still fitted into a plan.


  48. @ John

    You can’t ‘plan’ to be an iconoclast – but I know what you mean I think. But that takes us down a road we can leave to another place.


  49. Hi John July 2, 2012 @ 9:04 AM
    Yardbroom
    Quote; “Perhaps I would never have entered this Blog but the statement”

    . . . . “Blacks who have done little to help themselves or the country”. .

    Was so asinine, I could not let it pass.
    – – – – – – – – – –
    A closer examination of the part quotation I gave indicated there was more before and after it.

    At least I did not make it up.


  50. robert ross | July 3, 2012 at 10:34 AM |
    @ John

    You can’t ‘plan’ to be an iconoclast – but I know what you mean I think. But that takes us down a road we can leave to another place.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Not My will but Thine.


  51. @ John

    As I said…another place. But, actually, who heard him say it so that it could be reported?


  52. @moneybrain the critical difference is that the jews had the support of powerful and influential governments like the USA who saw the benefits from embracing them because of their knoweldge and education meanwhile blacks remained uneducated and discriminated from the very system who embraced the jews .is that RACISM or WHAT?


  53. @AC
    Your point is very valid.
    Remember my focus is how can a black person succeed regardless of the history. If/ when white peeps are racial IMO black people should use that as jet fuel to to achieve higher heights. The mindset should be, “nobody can keep me down, BUT ME”! I know plenty darker folks that think that way and they are successful.

    I even know a dark guy here in TO that has made good money working with South Africans because he has that philosophy, that level of confidence, his mind says I am better than anybody.


  54. @ money brain

    but one can’t form a conclusion without fully taking into consideration the facts. and the historial facts speak clear and loudly for every race the reality is that blacks have not used their history to stop them from getting ahead on the contra blacks have used their history to tell their story and to awake the eyes of the world about their plight and its continuance because of such awareness many doors which were closed was opened giving blacks a way forward and it was because of that very mindset “Nobody can keep me down” blacks were able to prevail however individualistically speaking many blacks have a morbid distrust of each other and its one of those learned behaviour associated with their past. the questions is how do blacks rid themselves of such a mindset of distrust of each other one that will continue to divide the race setting them on a collision course with self destruction for out of this breeds self hate and surrendering to those who first chartred their way.


  55. @Robert Ross, thanks for the compliment, albeit there may be those who would disagree 😉 .

    Ah yes, a little wine…emphasis on little. Nowt wrong with a Banks either..

    Just stay away from the strong stuff laddie. Leave that for the hardy Bushmen bout here… 😉


  56. @ Moneybrain | July 3, 2012 at 8:31 AM |
    “Don’t forget the Jews were slaves in Egypt ( ironic that they were slaves in Africa). ”

    There is no objective evidence to support this statement. There is something called migrant labour; and great cities, nation states and even empires have always been a magnet for cheap labour as a result of which the migrants have always been exploited and conveniently blamed for the socio-economic ills of the day.

    In any event being Jewish is a religious and cultural designation. Being Black is a racial or physiological determinant.

    It’s easy for a Jew to become a non-Jew as many did in Europe during the centuries of Zionist persecution and even more recently during the reign of the Nazi regime. Once you are black or of sub-Sahara African descent you are deemed “Black” with no turning back.

    It is therefore disingenuous to compare what people of Jewish faith went through with what Blacks had to endure in West and still have to confront on a daily basis.
    If Jewish man with the name David Solomon and a black man with the David Saul apply for a very senior job in the area of finance and banking with the same qualifications and experience, it is more likely that the Jewish guy would get preference since he would be deemed to “fit in” with the “colours and behaviour” of that club.

    Jews therefore are not faced with the racial prejudices and racial profiling as Blacks.
    Look around you and be honest with yourself.

    And, BTW, those Jews in the Bible that you said were enslaved in Egypt were not white-skinned as the Jews today who are primarily European in racial makeup. If they were of Caucasian origin you can bet that the sun in Egypt would have decimated them early in their captivity as it did to many Europeans who were brought to the New World to work as temporary slaves or indentured labourers.
    Please do not compare the Jewish experience with that of the Middle passage and the plantation nightmare. If you do, then Blacks in the Diaspora have every right to demand reparations valued at thousand of time more than what the Jews demanded from Germany and other European States for their holocaust suffering.


    • In the international world i.e.US,UK and Canada for example Blacks have been intermarrying and therefore the Black identity and socio-economic dynamic which obtains in Barbados is at odds with what is happening in these countries. Bear in mind the dominant host population in Barbados is Black and even though the youngsters are more liberal in views BU remains concern that the power structures and centres of influence remain delineated by race.


  57. millertheanunnaki | July 3, 2012 at 7:24 PM |
    @ Moneybrain | July 3, 2012 at 8:31 AM |
    “Don’t forget the Jews were slaves in Egypt ( ironic that they were slaves in Africa). ”

    There is no objective evidence to support this statement.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    How do you explain the Passover?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passover


  58. @John | July 3, 2012 at 9:00 PM |
    “How do you explain the Passover?”

    It’s an astrological event or celebration.
    The same way “Christians” celebrate the Annunciation, Xmas and Easter.
    In any event, its origins have nothing to do with those Europeans who converted to Judaism. Just as Xmas or Easter has nothing to do with those West Africans who were forcibly brought to Barbados, initially deprived of their heritage and subsequently given the European version of Christianity to ensure continued economic subjugation and mental control; and who now see themselves as the most vocal and ardent pseudo practitioners of the “Christian” falsehood in the World.


  59. @ David

    I am delighted to read of your concern that power structures and centres of influence are delineated by race. You will share my concern about racism in the Anglican Church then?


  60. ”even though the youngsters are more liberal in views BU remains concern that the power structures and centres of influence remain delineated by race.”

    Only a matter of time. It is the same when you pout a different person in charge of a company, he or she does things idifferently, better or worse….or just differently.

    Why waste time worrying about the inevitable, especially when the MOST important aspect i.e. the minds and conscience of the young, is stronger than any ‘legal’ adjustment you might want to put.

    if I may, people argue here every day about laws and regulations, Barrow told people to avoid the Courts. What does that say?

    Laws and regulations are the LEAST efficient way of change, cultural change and minset are far more powerful!

    Its like regulating that (just playing devils advocate) women should cover their legs and faces in public…because you want to cut down on sexual encounters by not making them so attractive. etc., thus cutting down on STD’s.

    What you have to do is educate and create a cultrure where people want to test, refrain from sudden wild interaction, at great risk, to a mature approach at such activity.

    My point is that mindsets and attitudes are far more important than anything you could come up with, in moving effective change.

    Hence, why I say the young are the future.


  61. @ robert ross | July 4, 2012 at 1:05 AM |
    “…. You will share my concern about racism in the Anglican Church then?”

    Anglicanism is a dying institution. In England (where it was first bastardized) it is almost dead just ready for burial after the remaining real estate is sold off for 30 pieces of silver to pay for its coffin. One can expect a similar fate to soon play out in Little England.

    But why would we want to hasten its demise? We should stop beating and riding a mortally wounded horse. Let it live a bit longer to confess its sins and remove scales that currently cover the spiritual eyes of black Bajans. By admitting on its deathbed to the myriad falsehoods told to blacks to keep them stupid under the Church’s exploitative union jack it would not only be offloading a lot of spiritual deadweight for its past transgressions but would also be giving Blacks a dose of psychological catharsis much needed for their true mental and the n economic liberation. Rev. Charles Morris must be congratulated for his boldness to open the gates that lead to the truth and hopefully some form of initial reconciliation between that dying PR agency for the slave traders, plantation owners and the mercantile class and the culturally destroyed blacks who have been seen only as collateral damage in the pursuit of wealth and profits for the sugar barons and the Church hierarchy back in the Mother Land.

    By spilling its guts before its final breath, the Anglican Church would start a fire with the spark of Truth that would spread among its many offshoots now vying to inherit the title of chief conjurer and exploiter of the black masses and destroy the evil roots and shoots of these modern day peddlers of the ‘Prosperity Gospel’ and the ‘get-rich-through-Jesus’ ideology.


  62. millertheanunnaki | July 3, 2012 at 9:23 PM |
    @John | July 3, 2012 at 9:00 PM |
    “How do you explain the Passover?”

    It’s an astrological event or celebration.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I don’t know how the date for the celebration of the Passover is determined in any given year but I seriously doubt that its existence is determined by any astrological or astonomical event.

    Do you know what astrological or astronomical event might determine its existence?!!


  63. @ John | July 4, 2012 at 8:14 AM |

    The Jewish Pass-Over is equivalent to the Christian ‘Easter’. The celebration of the advent of Spring in the Northern Hemisphere goes way back to Pagan times and long before Judaism.
    Like Easter, its timing is dependent on the fall of the first full moon after the vernal equinox.
    It marks astrologically the passing of the Sun (Son Jesus) from the winter to the light and warmth of spring for the land to produce sustenance for the people. This celebration is played out in the play of the passion or crucifixion of the Christian Jesus and his resurrection. In other words, his “Passing Over” to another dimension of life.
    The same way we refer today to people when they die as “passing” on or away to another dimension.


  64. The Passover occurred long before the Resurrection.

    Even Desmond Dekker seems comfortable that the Israelites were slaves and sung a song which seems to indicate this.

    Perhaps he is even likening the slaves that were brought out of Africa to the Israelites, slaves who were brought in to Africa.


  65. John | July 4, 2012 at 10:16 AM |
    The Passover occurred long before the Resurrection.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I need to correct myself.

    Theevents which the Passover celebrates occurred long before the Resurrection.


  66. @John | July 4, 2012 at 10:16 AM |
    “The Passover occurred long before the Resurrection.”

    What do you mean by that statement? They are both religious festivals celebrated after the Vernal Equinox as recognition of the arrival of Spring.

    It is true that Judaism predates Christianity so it follows that the celebration of the Pass Over would predate the recognition or celebration of the Christian version of the “Resurrection” which is less than 2000 years old.

    Desmond Dekker was just like most black people in the West Indies who are intellectual slaves to the Bible and interpret it in its literal form. He would have even sung a song saying that we are all descendants of Adam and Eve and really believe that is true; even if Cain kill his brother Abel and impregnated his sister who just came out of nowhere.


  67. Easter exists to celebrate the Resurrection, the Passover to celebrate the Exodus of the Israelites out of captivity in Egypt.

    The celebration of the two occurs around the same time because the Crucifixion occurred around the time as the celebration of the Passover.

    For various reasons, not all Christians celebrate Easter … or for that matter Christmas!!


  68. “Desmond Dekker was just like most black people in the West Indies who are intellectual slaves to the Bible and interpret it in its literal form. He would have even sung a song saying that we are all descendants of Adam and Eve and really believe that is true; even if Cain kill his brother Abel and impregnated his sister who just came out of nowhere.”

    Miller ……I really enjoy your responses and endorse them as well.


  69. @ John | July 4, 2012 at 11:31 AM |
    “The celebration of the two occurs around the same time because the Crucifixion occurred around the time as the celebration of the Passover.”

    Sorry to disappoint you John but the Crucifixion just like the Passover is a ‘celebration’ and not an actual event. There is no evidence in Egyptian history about Jews being captured and enslaved in Egypt for centuries or evidence of some “exodus”. Moses is a mythical figure (a leader of any oppressed people and copied from Babylonian legend) not a real person that led the Jews out of Egypt and wrote the Pentateuch or the First Five books of the Old Testament (some writers even refer tosixth and seventh).
    If you, John, are so sure that an actual crucifixion took place it must have occurred on a specific date and possibly recorded in Jewish or Roman history. Can you refer to the source of such a record?
    Unlike date of Jesus’ birth which is always fixed (25th of December – “the re-birth of the Sun”) the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus is a moving date or festival in the Christian calendar.
    The astrological basis of the resurrection is as follows:
    Easter must always fall on the First Sunday (the day of the Sun) after the first Full Moon after the Vernal (Spring) Equinox. So Easter (the Christian day of Resurrection) can fall as early as the 22nd March of the Christian calendar solar year or much later in April depending on the phases of the moon.

    So please John, don’t take every thing you read at face value and attach a literal interpretation to it. There is more in the biblical mortar than just the simplistic Christian pestle.


  70. @ islandgal246 | July 4, 2012 at 11:37 AM |

    You see how hard it is to “de-programme” a simple naive people who have been subjected to almost two centuries of religious indoctrination by their economic masters and even longer enduring cultural emasculation of the worst order? Not even the fictitious Jews in the fables would have been subjected to the total stripping of their heritage, family ties and self-worth.
    West Indian blacks, especially, are in a very bad shape psychologically and only a final admission by the Church that the whole Christianity con game is a big lie- the biggest ever told- would bring some opportunity for the blacks to see some light and move in that direction to get on the road of mental recovery.


  71. islandgal246 | July 4, 2012 at 11:37 AM |

    Miller ……I really enjoy your responses

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Me too!!


  72. @ miller
    You are beginning to worry the Bushman by how much you understand…. LOL if only you had a bit more time (and the required ingredients 🙂 ) – we could have seen an unprecedented TWO bushmen in this little island space…
    …..but alas…


  73. @miller, ”Jews therefore are not faced with the racial prejudices and racial profiling as Blacks.. ”

    Incorrect on two counts. Firstly, maybe ‘relatively’ is the word, but anyone living in the UK would have heard the term ‘Yid’ or worse ‘bloody Yid’ at some point. I have. You are plain wrong.

    Your second point, that being Jewish is a matter of religion only, is also plain wrong. One may be Jewish by religion, but in the same way one talks of the African diaspora, is the same way that the Jewish nation is spoken of, not just being Israel, but of all those Jewish, a nation in of itself.

    If you choose to not accept that assertion, then fine, I have nothing to prove, but that is how the ‘world’ sees the Jewish Nation, even if a few here do not, for whatever purposes suit their argument.

    That is why the Little Big Man espousing on ‘Egyptian Jew’ so readily was so serious in of itself, albeit even thugh the context, if one has studied any semblance of language and has any commonsense, in of itself proved that statement racist.

    In interpreting behaviours and expectations, to gain an understanding of outlook, often it is not only how one sees people, it is also how they see themselves.


  74. By the way, this is also why many African Jews have gone to Israel in the last fifteen years, to be live in their homeland.

    And, yes, the news reports moves to repatriate non-Jewish African illegal immigrants, but the difference is that they are both non-Jewish and also, illegal immigrants.

    After all, many people on this blog have previously castigated the Guyanese immigrants here, wanting to send them to Guyana. Same thing, no?


  75. @ Miller

    Apropos of Fr Morris: Do you mean “try it before you buy it Morris”? H’mm, yes. The same Fr Morris said on TV the other day that he fully supported Fr Goodridge on the ‘dress code’ issue. A broken reed I think now anxious to re-establish his credibility with the Bishop.

    There are, of course, some who couldn’t give a fig for the prelate.

    The Church of England contains so many strands that that becomes, as it has always been, the defining spirit of Anglicanism. You can’t readily pin it down. Here, of course and as you suggest, there is really only one though I think you are unfair to link the Church with the offshoots you mention. And I do think there are many here who do seek ‘fresh expressions’ of ‘Church’. Do remember, not everyone in the Church subscribes to the one strand and they do, I think, see beyond the horizon with you.


  76. @ Crusoe | July 4, 2012 at 5:13 PM |
    “….. but anyone living in the UK would have heard the term ‘Yid’ or worse ‘bloody Yid’ at some point. I have. You are plain wrong.”

    I also know a lot about the UK.
    So tell me Crusoe, when a man is walking the streets of London can you tell if he is a Jew by the colour of his skin? No! No! A Yid is only seen as a Yid by his cultural (religious) accoutrements and appearance. The same way you can differentiate a Rastafarian from a black bald head.
    Do you know how many Jews are at the centre of power in British society? From government ministers (ex Home Secretary Jack Straw for example) to lawyers, bankers, and owners and captains of industry and commerce. Even a former Prime Minter to Queen Victoria, Benjamin Disraeli was a Jew until he converted to Christianity.
    You must be aware that this “Jewish” stronghold even extends to the arts media and entertainment?
    Do you know that Albert Einstein was Jewish? So too was the man that developed the atom bomb!

    The Jews control many aspects of life in the USA. Do they get the same treatment and are subject racial discrimination like Afro-Americans? Was Henry Kissinger discriminated against because of his Jewish background?


  77. @Miller
    Yes your point is valid. The Jews have learnt what clever, successful black peeps have figured out …EDUCATION and a powerful, relentlessly positive self image/ self belief are the critical keys. This is the most expedient methodology. Naturally, black peeps must continue to demand equality, must never forget history.

    I had a great lunch with a black business contact today, it always is fun since he has Guyanese/ Trini roots.


  78. Moneybrain | July 4, 2012 at 8:39 PM |
    @Miller
    Yes your point is valid. The Jews have learnt what clever, successful black peeps have figured out …EDUCATION and a powerful, relentlessly positive self image/ self belief are the critical keys. This is the most expedient methodology. Naturally, black peeps must continue to demand equality, must never forget history.

    I had a great lunch with a black business contact today, it always is fun since he has Guyanese/ Trini roots.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Also you will find that the pogroms of the past thousands of years against the Jews have concentrated the survivors’ minds on survival.

    Albert Einstein was also once a refugee from Nazi Germany.

    Imagine what would have happened if Hitler had got the bomb first!!

    Many of those scientists who developed the atom bomb were also at one time refugees. I heard recently that included in the number that fled Germany were 20 Nobel laureates.


  79. STUPID CONFUSED BLACK PEOPLE! the bible was written by jesuit monks(jews) socialism, communism and other such social constructs were given to you by jews to herd the stupid so that they can abuse and use you. Go and read ONEEVIL.ORG and realise once and for all the fraud committed on our people. Jews (rothschild, rockefellas, bilderberg and carlise group) are all the jewis people who are running your asses ragged with their businesses. They set up in your country and towns, pay you pittence but the prices in their shops go up and up and thats how you stay poor!!!. Your mortgage(dead weight) is debt peonage( how many houses could you build for yourself in twenty or thirty years, even without experience and slowly) why do you think they always had UNIONS in England and America to fight for workers rights and wages, strikes were common! Margaret Thatcher came in and changed all of that, she used the same policies as Pinochett of Chile and then harboured that criminal in Britian. Her polices included(because black people were here) taking milk from the nursery children, closing down the coalmines leavin all the north of england high and dry. This is why fights in the house of commons between her and Arthur scargill were common from 1979 onwards. She shut down the large car making plants, Leyland, Fords, MG rover, shut down the youth clubs, special schools for the disabled, brought in privitisation so that her people could make themselves rich(jew and Irish) so they gave the best housing to their people, and the Heiress of TESCO food chain gave away keys to people that would vote for Margaret Thatcher and caused a big scandal in England.
    So when we come they moved out of their slums and tenements and put us in them with no heating and hot water. Then when they put in some boilers Margaret Thatcher said ‘Now you can buy your council house’ and lock our people into debt peonage! Their people didn’t buy the housing, they rented it out while collecting the benefits from the welfare system as well, then their youngest left after the war grew up, so they pensioned off our parents early and gave those jobs to them, while children of caribbean children lanquished here. Edwina Currie was Junior education minister under Margaret Thatcher and she used our FAMILY TO WRITE HER POLICES. This woman had me followed by Jamaicans, Irish and Jew in the schools taking every idea i,ve ever had, Including my mothers cooking, the tick i drew on my trainers that became NIKE that is now a world wide brand, Edwina Currie(jew) started writing about ‘low expectations of teachers’ they even called me hyper active in school. IN other words they stole ideas from us and then turned around and trashed us.
    Margaret Thatchers son tried to start a coup in Africa but got caught and left his old Etonian friend there to rot and hang so he ratted him out! Muti-culturism was about them taking from us!
    These are the same racist people that our people came here and met but because stupid Jamaican sellouts are sleeping AND BREEDING WITH THEM they got a cut out of the damage they did to us and all the ones dead in police custody, messed up in school and dead. SUS laws which are like old slave codes here, where police can just pull our people up on the road and arrest them for no reason. Read ONEEVIL>ORG, AAGARFAN, GODSQUAD AND ANY OF THE OTHER LINKS IT GIVES YOU AND WAKE UP.
    ALL OF YOU ARE IN A DAZE FROM SLAVERY AND COLONIALISM.

    When they first came to Africa with that same BIBLE they claimed they were civilising us and gave us nothing but barbarity and yet we have in the 21stn century people still believing in that crap, go and read truth. The bible is words of comfort for fools who can’t join the dots and find out what is truely wrong in their own communities and country, thats why alot of you end up fleeing you countries and coming right into the belly of the beast.
    They also taxed us and never payed any themselves!! yet another one of Margaret Thatchers policies when we came here POLLTAX which is now community charge so that Jew and Irish can live it up abroad and in your country and breed off your daughters, its a continuation of a HITLER theme to make everyone WHITE while we slave on the modern plantation called JOB, tax and health insurance is automatically taken out of your wage packet. When our parents first came they paid you cash in hand because HiTLER (A JEW)had heavily bombed England and the rest of Europe in a raid, so they couldn’t go there and ask for help EH!
    jOIN THE DOTS IDIOTS AND I HAVE TO CALL YOU THAT WHEN YOU STILL KEEP GOING ON ABOUT A BOOK THAT DON’T EVEN MAKE SENSE, the bible is full of sodomy and buggery, Mary was a prostitute and her barstard son born in a barn. Jews are a version of the romans. They came to England in 1066 in the battle of Hastings and ever since then they have created ,more wars, do you realise who your worshipping!!!
    The names Jesus, Jah and Allah are all God concepts that you would not see on the writings on the walls of Eygpt!!
    You and your children will always be in poverty for as long as you stay blind and you will always be arguing and complaining about the same issues, going around and around like a bad smell or a record that been stuck forever! ALL RELIGIONS ARE CULTS AND IF YOU BOTHERED TO TRACE THEIR ORIGINS YOU WOULD KNOW THAT AND BECAUSE OF THESE CULTS YOU WILL ALWAYS AHVE WARS!!
    THE JEWS ARE TRADITIONALLY A BARBARIC CULT THAT WORSHIP GOLD, MENS PHALLIS BECAUSE ALL OF THIS HAPPENED UNDER ROMAN CULTURE, WHERE THEY WERE ALWAYS INTO SEX WITH BOYS.
    READ SODDOMITES WALK FROM THE SEVENTEETH CENTURY HERE IN ENGLAND ALONE. NOW WE HAVE PURE GAY RIGHTS ISSUES ON THE TABLE AND MARCHES. JOIN THE DOTS FOOLS.
    PHONE TAPPING, SEEING YOU IN YOUR HOUSE THROUGH THE TV AND COMPUTER SCREENS AS WELL AS CAMERAS EVERYWHERE.
    ALL JEWS AND IRISH read the websites i gave you and any links and f***king wake up. 21st century and you all sound so backward no wonder you don’t have a clue about what to do.
    ALSO LOOK AT ALL THE ‘OCCUPY’ PROTESTS GOING ON ALLOVER AMERICA BRITAIN, EUROPE,LATIN AMERICA what’s the matter with you, JEWS just want to show you what they want you to see and hear and read. Just like in England where they put their women infront of us at school to tell us about GOD and the history of the Royal family, slavery and colonialism – when they never had any real good intentions for us. While they deny us, the police(the queens internal army)beat us up and kill us, build weapons with our taxes and continue the wars and abuse abroad. STUPID PEOPLE especially those preachers and pastors who are continuing that same theme and confusing even the young!! Even some of them are child abusers because thats what HITLER(A peadophile) and MUSOLINI did, they took over the ROMAN CATHOLIC church(and every POPE has been a peadophile) and all the abuse your going to read about happened with the consent of that church INCLUDING F**KING SLAVERY -, this is why even you in the islands never heard about what really happened to the children of world war 2 who were taken from Britain and Europe to the Colonies of America, South Africa, New Zealand, Austrialia(one of the worst for child abuse because the sent the convicts first who fucked sheep before they sent the white children and abused the aborigines) and Canada. This is why black people can suffer from racism in these countries and never be paid the going rate for any JOB in any profession.
    The message seems to be unless you breed with them you don’t get anywhere. These horrifically deseased people. Syphilis, christopher colombus brought this the indigenous peoples whereever he went, Henry the 8th had it and snorted Opium from his so called snuff box, Queen Elizabeth the 1st(get these blackamoors out of england) fame. several attempts were made on Queen Victoras life because she was inherently evil. Most victorian crimes were against women and children including JACK THE RIPPER who killed women who happened to be prostitutes was relatedd to the ROYAL family. JOIN THE DOTS, now they called these deseases BIOLOGICAL and CHEMICAL weapons that they can unleash on people any where and with hold medicines and treatment. Just like when they gave the native Americans indians blankets with small poz and killed their buffalo, the TUSKEGEE black flying airmen from world war 2 were given syphilis instead of thanks and praise, and sunk the SS LIBERTY with a mostly black crew. Not a mention in all of the history books of what black people actualy did ever in these classrooms ever!!
    COME OUT OF CULT AND REALISE WHO THE REAL ENEMY IS in all its forms including scientology and kabala, yet more rubbish to HERD more people into death and zombi -ISMS. Just like WACO and all the WACKOs throughout History, YES let History tell you the truth not some STUPID BOOK CALLED BIBLE CRAP.
    YOUR TOO SIMPLEMINDED TO COMEOUT OF YOUR SLUMBER THATS WHY THEY WILL ALWAYS COME AFTER YOU AND USE YOU WHILE THEY USE THAT ‘FRIENEMIY’ TACKTICS ON YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN which include fake compliments for mediocraty in schools while their children learn about high finance and get the jobs and yours don’t.
    They have turned the tables on us, with the help of sellouts AMONGST US. Including those who bring us gang films, crapping women bashing lyrics which sound faggoty, general slackness, guns and crime. GUESS WHO?
    can you see clearly now the fog has gone?


  80. These are the immortal and eternal words of Calvin Coolidge that everyone should use as their mantra,
    “Nothing in the world can take the place of PERSISTENCE,
    Talent will not; nothing is more common than the unsuccessful with talent
    Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb,
    Even education will not on its own; the world is full of educated derelicts.
    PERSISTENCE and DETERMINATION alone are OMNIPOTENT.
    The slogan PRESS ON! has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.


  81. I drop a comment when I like a article on a site or I have
    something to add to the conversation. It’s a result of the fire communicated in the post I looked at. And on this article RACISM Lingers On | Barbados Underground. I was moved enough to create a thought 😉 I actually do have a couple of questions for you if you tend not to mind. Could it be only me or does it look like some of the comments look like written by brain dead people? 😛 And, if you are posting at other online social sites, I’d
    like to follow anything new you have to post.
    Could you list every one of all your public sites like your Facebook page,
    twitter feed, or linkedin profile?


  82. Racism and bigotry is profitable,that,s so evident in the eastern caribbean, barbadoes domonican republic,barbadian brag and boast day and night about there high literacy rate, but how they cannot decipher the puzzle the jamaican have decipher back in the 1940s no white guy or neo colonialist guy cannot take away jamaica from my people and turn it into an alarthaid state, the whites in barbDoes is just a handfull in comparison the number of goat head barberic nigroid inhabitant of the little island, i visited barbadoes in the 1980s to mark cxc exams and i eas shock to sl how ancent barbadoes look, the only thing they keep brodgetown clean, the remnant of master and slave is still evident, they have little respect for people who look like themselves ,they always have a bowing mentality to white no doubt they dont like jamaican people jamaican dont bow down to nobody, jamaican maroom and in the colonial days was never ruled by the colonial masters of barbadoes.


  83. When you check the Global (white ) Power System maintained you can relate it to the Devil (holding you down undermining you 247365)


  84. @John:
    I take my hat off to your piece,especially about what’s deemed as the good book THE BIBLE. Millions have no idea that that so called good book is a big part of all the hell that so called blacks are going through and being lead to believe that it’s all a part of GOD’S PLAN to make things better,and take us back to where we came from.
    Many so called blacks accept this so called white Jesus to be the savior, and only through him can we know GOD.
    This is all a crock of shit. Search and you’ll see that this is all a very big part of this so called whit man’s plan to be the ruler, and controller..

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